Nathan Miller answers rapid-fire questions about dropshipping, emphasizing that better offers and ad creatives matter more than product selection. He covers CBO testing workflows, when to hire a VA, store layout fixes like review placement and video sliders, and practical challenges like getting a bank account as a teenage entrepreneur.
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Bro, what the hell? That's crazy, bro. Yo. All right, hold on, hold on, hold on. Third time's the charm, man. Third time's the charm. Yo, check out this tweet, bro. Or not this tweet. This guy. We already got copycats chat. What does vpd mean, bro? Professional leaker. Yeah, man. Bro, even Khalid. Khalid, I. I see you, bro. I see you. No, it's. Even if some people see it, right? It's not. It's not a big deal to me. I don't like it. What revenue would you hire? Va, dude, you need to have a va. I would say after you start getting orders, I'd get a VA. Even if they work like. If they work like 30 minutes a day, it will save you so much time. I do. Just saved your ass. Yeah. Gotta give him odd. Yeah. Who was that, by the way? Was it stacking? Stacking? You want. You want mod, bro? I'll give you a mod. Managing moderator. I'm just getting standard, bro. Good man. DPDs views per day. Oh, so I mog these guys, basically, is what you're saying, that's good. Let's go to Twitter, man. Is this. What do I think it is? Braz, bro. Braz is good, guys. If you have. I mean, he doesn't do drop shipping, but. No, bro, now, now you're on the team, man. You got to join every stream now you're a mod, bro. You gotta join every. Every stream. Would like to be in a community of like minded people. Yeah, Rippy Club's a great place. I don't have my own community, bro, but I recommend Rippy Club because there's a lot of people in there. Is drop shipping stressful? I mean, it could be like, it's not. Like, maybe sometimes it is, but I would say usually not. Biggest change that led to your success in the last two years, was it the way you found products, store building offer, or was doing a lot of numbers. So I'm guessing talking about like specifically drop shipping. Biggest change was probably. I mean, I would say offers and creatives, man. That's. That's the big. That's the big thing. What's a va? A VA is a virtual assistant. So it's someone that you hire to like answer emails for you and you know, you get chargebacks. Like, they'll take care of those. Let me know where I can improve Rippy. Clue, Love, bro. Someone send me a site or something. I need to go over a site and review it. Like every guru out there, they always send you to the Same one. It's totally, like, blame or something. Yeah, it's this, like, I don't even know if they do sales anymore, bro, but this thing has been around for years. I mean, it's a solid site, though, but it's. Are they still around, bro? Like, really still do revenue? How long was I doing product research? Maybe for, like, a few hours every day. It would be, like every day, though. I'd find a product, and then I'd test it. So maybe like, a. A few hours every week. Biggest risks. Biggest risks are. That's a. That's a tricky one, brother. Yeah, it could be any site. Like, I don't know if you guys. If you don't want to be yours, like, it can be yours. It doesn't matter. Like, I can tell you kind of why this site's good, but we need to go into the. So. Okay, this is kind of interesting. I've never really tested this, you know, the free. Free gift in the product image, but you'd see how they clean these. All right, bro, that's literally some badge right there. I am not. Yo, Khalid. What'd you say? I don't know what you said. I'm gonna put it in Shop Hunter. Yeah, do that, bro. This guy's an AI. You know, the guy that runs Bleeding. Brother is this guy. Verified. What's this thing next to your name, bro? Go to your channel. Okay. What do you really do during your deep work? The only task I can think of is pumping out creatives, thinking of new ways to boost my AOV or doing some CRO. Yeah, those are definitely a good portion of the tasks. Like, you want to do, like, some maintenance. Like, you have, like, everyday things that you have to do. Like, for me, that's, like, fulfilling orders. Like this one, according to shop owner. Yeah. Shop Hunter is off, so they could have done a lot more or a lot less than that. That's kind of crazy that they've been around for so long. But every single day, I fulfill orders, you know, I have to check on the ad account, you know, go through that. But really, when it comes to, like, locking in and everything like that, that's not like. Like, other things I have to do, like, test, like, texting back VAs and all this stuff. Like, I have to text a lot of people. But, like, locking it for me is really kind of like, diving into more, like, competitor research or, you know, going through the ad account, you know, building out, because we have this. The sheet we use for, like, we have the sheet we use that is for it's like tracking the click rates and like creative performance. Right. So like filling that out, you know, analyzing that, like looking at these. Okay, what's working, what's not working and just kind of like trying to like grow different things like implement, you know, sms, like you know, check on our Google. How's our Google doing? Do you know? I. Technically it's automated but I still have to pay them. Like I can't. It doesn't just come straight from my bank account. I have to pay them every day. Can you think of any possible challenges or obstacles were before 15 year old doing drop ship? Maybe the bank account aspect of it. Like if you scaled like it'd be hard for you to get a bank account. You could you know, ask your parents and stuff to like cosign. I don't know if that works or not but there's, I'm pretty sure there's kids that are 15 that do it. So there's always a way, man. My agent wasn't getting back to me and I have a bunch of refunds. Hashtag piss. Yeah, that's exactly why I tell people like if you go straight to a private supplier like Ryan, I know I gave you some of my private suppliers, sometimes they're not going to get back to you if you're not doing a lot of orders. So what niche bro. It just depends. Like it's. There's not one niche that's better than any. If I'm a beginner though, I would recommend staying away from clothes. Clothing. I will say that. Do you warm up your Facebook for new products? No. How much is a good amount to start with? I'm 17 with a job but don't get many hours. I just want to know I have enough capital. Start starting off. I would do like if you're making like two to five hundred a week, bro, like I think you. That's doable. If you're like living at home, I think that's doable. How do you go about testing new creative and adding them to scaling campaign? Okay, yeah, that's a, that's a great question. Great question, Great question. Let's get rid of them some of the sheet. Okay. So basically testing campaign. I'll just show you my testing campaign. So it's a, it's a cbo. Okay. And then one batch or one batch. So let's say I, this is my testing campaign. I've only tested one batch of creatives. So when I was first starting though I wasn't, I didn't have like a Testing campaign. This is something I implemented once. I had, like, a main scaling thing. Then I kind of had this on the side just to test. And so let's say, like, I just created this. Like, I have a main campaign that's doing well, but I want to test some new creatives. Okay. So I'm going to create a CBO with one batch, and I'm going to put a minimum spend on this, which you can do inside Facebook. Usually I do like, $100, but you can do like, 50. And then in here, we'll just have, you know, all the creatives that you have in there. Like, you know, 4 to 5 to 10. Like, or how many creatives. But so that is kind of my testing campaign. I leave this broad, and then let's say I have, you know, five new creatives I want to test. Okay. All I'm going to do is I'm going to come in here, create a new ad set. So it's going to be batch two. Okay. We're going to do the minimum spend to make sure that, you know, it actually gets some spend and that actually, like, pushes, you know, money to the creatives. Okay. And then we just kind of repeat this process, and then eventually, you know, you're going to have some that are just not as profitable. So then you can start cutting, cutting those. Justin, I know your thing got deleted, but it is real. 15. I mean, he. Ant's been doing this for as long as I've been doing that. We literally started, like, in the same discord at the same time. So I actually know Ant. So he hasn't been doing it for a couple weeks, but, like, that product took him a couple weeks to get to that point. Like, you can get to 15k days in two weeks with a product 100%. But, like, don't be fooled. Like, it will take you longer to learn everything, if that makes sense. It's not gonna take you two weeks to learn all this stuff. Like, no shot that's gonna happen. Can you review my site if I send the link? William, I would love to review your site as long as you're okay with leaking it to everybody. But, I mean, if you don't care, then I will review it now. You're good. You're good, Ethan. I always get good products and do decent amounts, but I can't seem to get good ad metrics. Always so expensive. I tried a bunch of some strategies. What do I do? Focus on the hook. Like, the hook is the most important part of an ad. And what a hook Is if you guys don't know, it's the first three seconds of the creative. And I've seen that in my ad account, like, to this day, the best hook, you know, usually performs the best. So that's usually. Not every time. Why does it do that? But yeah, so it's the first three seconds you want to focus on that. And if you can, you can add a, you know, like the columns on Facebook or whatever. You can add like a. Like a line or like a section that says hook rate. You gotta look that up on YouTube, but it's pretty easy. And then you can actually see which of your ads are getting a good hook rate. And then you just kind of want to work on that and then see, okay, these type of ads are getting good hook rates. I need to create more of these or I need to try to improve this somehow with a different, you know, text or something like that. You transfer them into scaling campaign. Yes. Sorry, I didn't talk about that. But yeah, if. Let's say this batch, you know, with these ads, let's say this ad right here started popping off, getting a ton of spend, and it was very profitable. All I'm going to do is paste this and then, you know, select all the ad sets on my scaling campaign and then copy it in there or copy this and then paste it into that campaign. Yeah, into every ad set. Oh, yeah. I didn't realize, bro. Is that better? Why is it doing this, bro? All right, there we go, bro. Can you write down raw blueprint on the whiteboard how to run it up, brother, that would take me so long. And. Yeah, that would just take so long. I can't. I couldn't do everything on here. At your beginning, how many times have you tried to find a winning product, bro? Literally, like tested 30, 30 something products. Let's see if I can bring up my old store. That might be a little risky. So I'm not gonna. Not gonna do it again. I'm not gonna leak it. I'm not gonna leak it this time. Not doing it. What's the budget in your mind? You start with drop shipping and that. And which spends do you get return on that amount? I mean, my return on spend is, you know, ridiculous, bro. So I don't even know what that number is, but it depends on people. Like, don't get into drop shipping and expect to make money right away. It's gonna take you a few months, bro, at least. Can you mentor me for free? Yeah, man. 2025. You need to get a banger set Up? Yeah, bro. I mean, we're growing the channel right now. You know, we're still working on getting that motion up, but, yeah, definitely want to get a better setup eventually for sure. Pre leak. No pre leaking. Careful with the chrome tabs. I know, I know, man. I remember. Yo, you need to get obs stream so you can cover your screen, bro. I do use obs, so I don't. I guess. Yeah, I could do that. This guy's. This guy's smart. Chat. This guy's smart. Watch this, watch this. Oh, I did it. All right, let me see if I can pull up my old site or my old store. I'm going to have to log out. I don't even know if this thing's a thing anymore. Do I have anything that says anything up here? No. 953624. Am I a car guy? I wouldn't say I'm a car guy. I like cars, but, like. Like, I just crashed my M4, bro, and I'm not, like, crying over it, so I can't save. Well, Chat. I don't think I can open my store. How much opening charges that. Well, I have an outstanding bill on the store, so I will not be opening it up. Don't care to pay that right now. Don't need to. Did you buy in? Cage only pop. Yo. What? My YouTube, bro. I'm. I have 2, 000 followers right now. I'm getting 50 people on a stream. I did not buy followers. Okay, let's go back to some Twitter or something. Scroll on there. How do I. Here we go. Call Model Mauler. SVJ next. William Website. Who the hell is that? Facebook ads, bro. That's a whole video. How do you find the BMW M5F90 comp? I don't know. The BMW dealership. I didn't. I went to did not have those. I'm learning engineer and still find drop shipping hard sometimes. Yeah, it is. It's difficult. Like, people say that it's like a walk in the park. It's. It's hard to get your head around everything. But once you kind of have that, then it gets a lot more simple. It gets simpler. I basically did that two times today. Look up, it's fire me. Trust BMW M5F 90 Pro. I should not be looking this up. It's gonna make me depressed. Okay, hear me out. The M4 M3s look better, in my opinion. All right, that might be controversial, but I know these are, like, the best sedans, like, ever created on this earth. But, I mean, yeah, man, like, they just. I don't know. I don't know. I got winning flex ads. How would you move them to winning ads like this? Flexible support coffee, yo. I honestly don't know. Thoughts on organic drop shipping? I don't recommend it, bro. Okay. Kirby, he knows product. Product all. Pro got deleted. M2 is the best. Really? Any book recommendation? Let me check over your chat. Give me a second. Let's see. Okay, I got two right here. So one, we got scientific advertising. All right, that's pretty good for, like, you know, just basic, like, advertising and learning some basics and stuff like that. And then Meditations from Marcus Aurelius, bro, probably my favorite book ever. I know it's not really a book, but I love that thing. I need to read it again. I'll read through it again. How did you learn drop shipping from Rippy club? You know, YouTube, a few different courses that I bought. How much money do you need to start your first store? I would either have income, bro, or I would have. Yeah, either have a job or have a few GS. At least. Justin boy, Rippy Club's a good place to find stuff like that. I mean, the thing is, like, depending on the product, the blueprint is going to be different, so. Bravis930. What is that? I don't like the butt. The butt looks a little bit weird to me, but besides that. Yeah, dude, that's. That's pretty. No, I used to have carbon fiber once. Did you see Train hit like a 120k day? Do you think the product was a product much? For what? Who the hell's trained? I don't know who train is, but people. People be hitting days like that. Just drop shipping, bro. Do you ever buy Ferrari or a Lambo? Yeah, bro, I have it on my vision board up there, but for some reason, this lamb. I know this is not like a crazy Lambo, but, bro, this is. This is aura right here. Like, Bruce Wayne had the same Lambo as him, dog. Like, that's. That's peak. That's my dream right there. Oh, yeah. I literally have this picture on my. My vision board. Yeah, dude. Yeah. I do run Google Ads, bro. How do you make your ads? That's complicated. So 1.2 mil day. Sheesh. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably. I don't know. Oh, who's on here? Is that a drop? I don't know. I have no idea, man. All right. Don't want to see that right now. Yeah, it could be a drop row. I've got no idea. I don't do mentorship right now. Should we do Google Ads starting out? No, don't start out with Google. That's something that's like a complementary thing. What's roas on average with Google? Do my roas on Google. I mean, it's complicated because it's not like Facebook ads. It's like I do a branded search campaign which basically if you search in my brand name on Google, like, I'll be the top thing that pops up for a reason. So it's kind of complicated. But my. My real as is like literally 8 on google. Can we still Facebook ad videos a comp and run our ads testing? I don't recommend stealing off of Facebook because you can get banned for that. Recently, we've been finding a lot of good products off of Kayla Data. Bro, William, bro, where did you send the website? Was it. William? William, where's the website? Website name is Nest Walla. Ho. Here we go. All right, William, drop off. All right. Well, number one, bro, I would not do a general store. So stacking. Stack and you don't. Don't leak my store. So, yeah, you got a lot of different shit. I tried five bucks, bro. Why are you selling this for five bucks? That's got to be like. I'm guessing that's you're not selling that. This is kind of cool. I like that. Yeah, you got. You got to stick within a niche, bro, because this just look like. Imagine if you're a customer row and you come here. Like, I just seem so scammy. I don't know what I'm guessing. Since this is the one you have reviews on, this is kind of what you're focusing on selling. Like, the product images isn't bad. They're not bad, but like the whole, like, it doesn't flow well. Like, you got. You got this red, you got this green. You got pink, you got weird blue color. Got more blue. You got this light blue. And then you got reviews. You don't have enough stuff on here. Hold on. Let's see if I can. Okay. I like this. I always forget what I do for my stores. This is the wrong tab. Okay, let's go to. Okay. Yeah, so I would definitely put the reviews above reviews first, then this. Then price, limited stock available. I don't really. That just seems nice gaming to me. You got your. Your four things here. That's okay. Like, I would make the colors match more. For sure. Got white and pink. Okay. Okay. I like the drop downs. Drop downs are good. I would do like a shipping estimate in Time. Okay. Yeah, I would, I would maybe like have some videos or some gifs on here. Because if you think about it, all your traffic are coming from a brain rot state where they're scrolling or they're watching videos or just scrolling the feed. So like, they need some, need some juicy material, some juicy content to keep them engaged on your site. So down here I would maybe do some more GIFs. You know, maybe I see a guarantee right here. But I would write that out more kind of like how I did a my site. I mean, this, this site's not like the perfect site, just kind of a basic one. But I'll make a whole thing for that. Definitely put in some testimonials you can put in faq. And then I would also format the reviews different. Like, if you see mine, it looks nice and stacked. And when I see these on a site, I'm like, okay, this is a drop shipping site. Like, and then what's this at the bottom? Frequently bought. You don't need any of those. So he's got to add a few more things. And like, if you can look, go to bling again. All right, boys, I got eight minutes left and then I gotta hop off. But we'll do this so bleed, bro. Like, you can see how everything matches. Like, everything flows well. Even these little like things like the color of the price, the color of, you know, the percentage off. They got a nice bundle. I think this is a little too much in my opinion. But I mean, they've optimized the shit out of it. So they know more than me, probably. You got the drop downs for everything. And then look at this. This is like so engaging. Like, this is really clean. It's. You get to see like videos of people actually using it. That looks like terrible. Terrible. I don't like that video at all. Got some testimonials, some more ratings. Very clean video. This is pretty sick. I mean, obviously this is hard to build out once you're just testing a product, like finding high quality content like this. But there is videos out there probably on Amazon and stuff you could use. And this is really, like, this just feels like such a. It feels like such a good brand. Like, things like this are nice. They got more videos. I really recommend getting a video slider like this. I use these on almost all my stores and it goes on for so long. You don't need this much. Especially when you're testing. You don't need nearly this much content on your landing page. But you want to aim to have a healthy amount not just what you have, which is literally one thing. And then reviews, you know, you want to have some different sections on there. Whose shop now button is Word. I know my works. Yeah. Who's. Who's next? My story. Lust next. Lust fee or something like that. Ecom House. When's the Ecom House open? L. Okay. That's a Y first. Yfi.com. what the. What are we selling here? Yo, are these. Yo, what is this? Yo, what the. You. This is a prank, ain't it? Bro, what the hell? What? Yo, Dirty dice. All right. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't do that anymore. That's crazy. Guarantee badges, bro. Yeah, what the hell? But I need to have bought stock. Hip hop before selling it. No, bro, that's. That's what drop shipping is. You don't have to have any stock or inventory before you sell it, which is nice. On the edge and. Oh, hell, man. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. All right. Anyone else got a store that's not a. Not a sex store? I'll do one more cuz I gotta. I gotta finish packing. Victoria. Everything prepared. That's definitely not his store. Should begin to start with Woo Conference as Shopify is a bit expensive, bro. To be honest. I don't know anything about Woo Conference. Woocommerce. I just use Shopify, so I cannot speak about that. I'm not totally sure about that. My guy. Any channel recommend? Rex. Yes, brother. No way. That's your store, bro. All right. This guy's really good. I loved watching his videos. He has a ton on here, I think. I know it doesn't say that. I've watched it on this channel. Yeah, Ryan's been fucking. Ryan's putting time out, bro. 500 to 8 figures in E comm. Like, he has a lot of really good, like, saucy stuff, but it's more. It's not like as much drop shipping. It's more like e commerce, like brand building, which is basically what you should be trying to do, you know, Theme. I think I'm just using sense theme on the store, though. Just sense and like, this is not a perfect store, but it will get you sales for sure. Mindbender, do you think you can exit your store? Yeah, bro, that's the. That's the goal. Nicoties, bro. Where did you send yours? Yeah, I don't know. I don't technically use a paid theme right now. I use gem pages. I don't exactly know how exit multiples work. There's a lot that goes into it. So I can't really speak too much on that. How do you exit a store? Basically, you got to run it for like a year. You know, good profit, you know, decent skill scale for at least a year. And then yo. And then after that, you can look into exiting it and customize products. Yeah, that's definitely a lot more. It's a lot better to exit when you have, like, your own thing. And I don't do flexible ads, guys. I don't mess with that. All right? Yeah, I 100 thing. Like mentors and stuff. Stuff are worth it. Like, I paid for mentors and they helped me out a good bit. You know, one of them wasn't the most helpful, but you kind of just have to do more due diligence on that. But like, rippy club, bro, like, for the price you you're paying is so valuable. Public selling store with that. Mm, yeah, that's gonna be tough. But people have done it before. Now. People. People run drop shipping stores all the time, man. Like multiple so gen pages. It's an app, bro. All right, guys, I got a headache and I got a flight that I gotta leave for in a few hours, so I need to get packed up and everything. But, you know, thank you guys for watching the stream. Now I really enjoy hopping on here and helping you guys out, so I do have one advantage plus campaign, Michael. But yeah, yeah, thank you guys for, like, you know, hopping on, you know, chatting with me. I really appreciate. Love you guys. Yeah, yeah, you're welcome. Thanks, bro. Thanks, bro. All right. Yeah, I'll see you guys. I don't know, maybe I'll stream when I'm in Hawaii. Who knows? We'll see what happens. But yeah, Ricky, CBO method's definitely viable, bro. Yeah, good luck with that, bro. All right, see you guys.
