"She Seems Indifferent... Doesn't Seem To Care About Us" - The Common Anxious/Avoidant Dynamic

Ralph Brewer explains the anxious-avoidant attachment dynamic, where one partner constantly pursues connection while the other withdraws. Both need to change: the anxious partner must reduce neediness, the avoidant must engage more. Breaking the cycle requires mutual work, not blaming one side.
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Andrew Jones says— Andrew from YouTube says, I want to go because no matter how many times we discuss improving things, she always defaults to good old indifference. We've got busy jobs, but she seems so comfortable with indifference, and I need more. I'm sorry to hear that, Andrew. So here you are, you're painting the picture in one— well, we got two sentences here. Here I am being a Mr. Know-it-all and trying to pretend I know exactly what you're talking about, but You are, in just a few sentences, kind of outlining, if you're not aware, a pretty common scenario. In the scenario, one of the pursuer, let's work on this, let's discuss things, let's talk about the relationship. And the other one being, as you put it, indifferent. Nah, I'm good, we're fine, we don't need to talk about all that stuff, we don't need to always bring in this drama and blah blah, let's just live our lives for God's sakes. The psych terms that the psychologists like to throw out there is one is the anxious We're talking about attachment theory. One is the anxious partner and the other one is the— why am I drawing a blank today? Avoidant. Thank you. The anxious and the avoidant. And you're Mr. Anxious, it seems like, and she's Miss Avoidant. Pretty common dynamic. How the opposites attract and they find each other is always kind of funny, but pretty common scenario. I'm sorry. And how do you get past this? Well, you both work on— you work on your problems and come more to center, to more more secure and stop chasing her around all over the damn place. And she comes more to center and she, you know, opens up more. All right, I'm willing to talk, I'm willing to do things, I'm willing to whatever. So you gotta find that middle ground where you both can come together. Pretty hard. From what I've seen, by nature of the anxious person, the pursuer and everything, they always wanna put in work, it seems like. So when I come to them and I go, I got a book for you or a course or a YouTube video or something like that, the anxious person's like, yes, yes, whatever it takes. I can bridge the gap between myself and the avoidant person, just whatever I gotta learn. Well, on the other hand, by virtue of their nature, the avoidant's like, I've read enough, just stop with the bullshit, with the constant trying to fix things and stuff. Can we just not? Makes things really difficult. So, uh, often in the online circles, you'll see the anxious person kind of painted as the angel, the, the victim. And the avoidant person is the devil. They're the one doing the, putting up the wall. They're not exactly wrong, but it's not the full story. The anxious people have a lot of work to do themselves, which a lot of them learn after the fact, after they get out of that relationship and they go on to the next relationship and they go, goddamn it, I did it again. And here I was, I thought the love, the new love of my life is telling me to back off and stop being so needy. I've heard that before. Maybe you got something to work on, right?
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