Ukrainian Model Asked Me Out After THIS (Uncut Approach)

In this uncut, in‑person YouTube approach, Stephen (Junhyuk), a former finance professional turned confidence coach and content creator, strikes up a conversation with Kate (Katerina), an Eastern European (Ukrainian) model, at a café in Bangkok. The dialogue starts with a light‑hearted misreading of Kate’s accent as “Russian,” leading to a clear affirmation of her Ukrainian identity and a brief discussion of the Russia‑Ukraine war’s impact on language and national pride. They talk about the modeling market in Southeast Asia, noting how Ukrainian and Russian models frequently shuttle between Bangkok, Shanghai, and Guangzhou, and Kate shares her own career moves from Ukraine to Bangkok, a short stint in Bali, and an upcoming trip to China. Stephen recounts his own globetrotting background—born in the US, raised in Asia, years in London, a former hedge‑fund career, an MBA, and a pivot to coaching after battling depression. He explains his coaching focus on dating, confidence, communication, and life purpose, citing a diverse client base from Canada, Italy, Dubai, and beyond. The conversation also touches on cultural observations: Korean collectivist fashion trends, food (kimchi, bibimbap, makgeolli), and personal preferences (no alcohol). Both speakers reflect on feelings of displacement, loss of home, and the lingering effects of COVID‑19 and the war. They mention upcoming plans—Songkran water festival, Kate’s content creation on TikTok/Instagram, and Stephen’s coaching hub in Bangkok. A humorous age reveal (Stephen is 38) leads to a brief discussion of age perception and grooming. The chat closes with a metaphorical nod to Nikola Tesla, linking energy, frequency, and personal vibration to the broader theme of self‑improvement.
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Hey, excuse me. Is this seat taken? Can we sit here? Yeah.
Thank you. Where are you from, by the way?
You said— I just— when you talk to me, I was like, I thought like I was getting like a Russian vibe. But you're not. I don't think you're Russian. Oh, okay.
Okay.
I just— when I talk to you, when you looked at me at first, I got the Russian vibe. But I don't think you're Russian.
I'm glad you said that because I'm Eastern European, not Russian.
Okay, you're Eastern European, but not Polish?
All right, between Russia and Poland, Ukraine.
Okay, can I have iced dark latte, please? Slava Ukraine. What does dark latte even mean? Oh, no, no, what's a Kyoto latte? That would be like an easiest guess, right? Yeah, yeah, but I actually grew up in an Asian country. Yeah, I was born in the US, but I grew up in Asia, and then later I moved back to the States, you know. So which Asian country do you think I'm from?
I don't want to, you know, make assumptions so you will not be like offended because I'm not really—
I'm gonna get super offended if you get it wrong. I'm just kidding. I mean, it's not about getting it right, right? At the end of the day. So what do you think? I don't know.
Maybe Korea?
No way.
Really?
Yeah. You're the first person that gets— everyone's guess is like Singapore or something.
That's like my Korean culture. So I'll take Korea. Maybe that's why I—
Maybe you cheekily manifested that. Yeah. Thursday. Wait, today's Thursday or Friday? Friday at Arabica. I'm gonna manifest a Korean guy. It's like right here, you know.
Maybe that's because of the style, you know, because a lot of like Korean people are very stylish.
Yeah, I would say so. I mean, I like to think that a lot of Korean people are very like, they wear the same things, you know. Like when you're in Korea, it's a very— people, people do the same things, you know. It's like a collectivism type of mentality, you know. You do one thing and everyone does the same thing. It's like if there's a trend, everyone follows it, you know. No one's like trying to break out of the trend, or no one's trying to kind of like redefine something, you know. There's a bit of a different vibe, but yeah, it is what it is.
Maybe because once I had to like a video casting and I had to learn Annyeonghaseyo.
Annyeonghaseyo. You're good, you're good, you're good. I like that. Okay, I don't live in Korea anymore. I mean, I was there, I grew up there when I was a kid. I hated it.
I hated it.
Yeah, it's like, I mean, visiting a place as a tourist versus actually like growing there as a local, obviously completely different experiences. But Korea, when I was growing up, it was like going through a huge economic boom, you know, and then like everything was getting like— the country is small, right? And then there's like a lot of people, millions of people, and it's very like, uh, people— there's this like expectation that you have to like really perform at a high level. I mean, obviously I cannot ignore that there's like a family thing as well, but yeah, I didn't like it. It doesn't really— it's not like a society that really, really like fosters like diversity or individuality because it's almost like, as I said, like everyone's like doing the same thing, right? So if you're like someone who's like, let's say, not really academically oriented but more like, let's say, artistically oriented and musically oriented, more creative, like I think it can be a little bit stifling. But now things are a little bit changed. You see like K-pop, K-media, whatever. But you're in— you said you're in casting, so you do like modeling? Like print or runway? Commercial.
Commercial, okay.
Like in Bangkok mostly?
I came here as a tourist.
That's how it starts usually, yeah.
And like just for holiday, and I was expecting to sign a convention here, but it didn't make it. So now I'm going to China.
You're going to China?
Yeah.
Like when? Like Shanghai?
Oh, okay.
I know a lot of Ukrainian and Russian girls who are like, yeah, they kind of shuffle back and forth between Bangkok and Shanghai, like Guangzhou as well. You know, it's like these seem to be like the hot markets for like modeling, right?
It's like worth the price to make money. Yeah, but for me it's gonna be like first time to go to China.
Oh, you've never been there? Prepare to be shocked. Prepare to be shocked.
You know, I'm scared that nothing like, you know, European doesn't work there, like social media and stuff. Yeah, and also at first I saw this something like close to North Korea, but then I saw some people—
excuse me, can I have a cover for this? Wow, but you're going to Guangzhou? Okay, I've never been to Guangzhou before, but a lot of my friends actually go there for modeling, actually. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, I don't know about what— what about Chinese people? They always seem to prefer this, like, an Eastern European faces, you know, so like you just like fit right in.
Yeah, but that's what's like, it's very funny that a lot of my friends, they usually really take care of like face SPF and stuff, you know, to be very like white, light skin. Yeah, but my agency asked me to tan.
Really? Oh, so you're actually tanning right now? You're tanning here? Indoors?
No, no, I like— literally in my schedule there is like 2 hours. Yeah, rooftop.
And really, that's your routine? You have like a Google Calendar? Okay, tanning from 10 AM to 2 PM, check, check. I love that. What's your name?
My name is Kate.
Kate, nice to meet you. Stephen. Kate. It's, uh, my first name is actually my American name, and my second name is my Korean name. Oh, it's like an interview right now. You're like trying to profile me. Uh, my Korean name is Junhyuk. Junhyuk. Junhyuk.
Yeah.
And you, K? Katerina? Katerina.
Why do you know so much about just when you're here?
I lived like I've always moved around and lived around the world quite a bit. So essentially, after I moved back to the US, I was like kind of all over the states for like a few years. I left the US like 10 years ago, and then I was mostly living in London. When I was living in London, I was like spending a few months at a time like Kiev, Moscow, you know, Warsaw, Belgrade. So I was most— I was in Europe, Eastern Europe, a lot for work and stuff.
So And it's actually very rare. Yeah, not many people go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's part of Europe.
Exactly. Sorry?
Why, why was there like a little pause there, you know, like, you know, like, I mean, my city is on the It's like in the north part of Ukraine.
Ah, so it's more like Ukraine.
Okay, okay.
Russian, like, and everybody around spoke Russian, but I guess after first, like, conflict between Russia and Ukraine, yeah, my dad and my grandma, they started talking only in Ukrainian.
Oh damn, all right.
And it was like a boom of, you know, this national path, like Ukrainian identity stuff. And since 2022, when the full invasion started, like Russia invaded Ukraine, it was inside of Ukraine. It's like huge deal when you talk in Russia about Ukraine. And I remember like one of my friends Bali. It was like almost 2023, and one Russian guy just— I wasn't talking or anything, I was just going in Zara, and he came to me and said like, 'Are you Russian? Eat Russian.' And I was so offended because like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got that.
Yeah.
Oh wow. So it's been a while, huh?
Yeah, well, I do. I speak Russian, but I try to avoid.
Yeah, nice.
Got it.
I see.
What do you think?
Take a wild guess. Take a wild guess.
Almost everybody here, like, some freelancing stuff, digital marketing.
That's what I used to do back in the day. I used to do a lot of digital marketing back in the day. Now I do mostly a lot of coaching, content creation and stuff. Content creation and coaching, like coaching men, like confidence, self-improvement, communication, figuring out their purpose in life, this type of stuff.
Yeah, something in between, like Oh my God, I forgot this. How to say it in English? Like psychology?
Yeah, that's part of it. Um, a lot of my clients come to me for like, let's say like they experienced a heartbreak with a girl or something and they want to navigate with like the next steps. Or like, yeah, usually they come to me like with dating issues a lot, but sometimes like they come with like career issues. Like, yo, I've like 'Oh, I've done XYZ. I feel like it's not really the right vibe for me. I want to figure out the next step. Like, how do I navigate this whole maze?' You know?
Yeah.
Where'd you learn your English, by the way? Your English is like— for like a Ukrainian person, it's like— have you lived mostly abroad?
No, I mean, I was— when I was a kid and I just got the internet, like, internet provider.
Yeah.
I was literally obsessed with American YouTube. I grew up watching all these girls who made DIYs, get ready with me, and all of that stuff. Mostly I watch English content and something like that. So maybe that's how I can speak English like that.
Okay, so that was like when you were a kid? And then since then you've just been watching a lot of— okay, okay, so you're not a teenager anymore. I just have to make sure, you know, because like you never know these days, you know. Yeah, you never know.
Like a teenager.
Yeah, I think you're more like probably 23. Yeah, nice.
23.
Have you had your birthday this year yet?
No.
I feel like a psychologist. Is your birthday— yeah, exactly. I don't know, like, you come off as like a very bubbly person, you know? Bubbly. You know that word? No, no, no, it's like very like a— it's like very Uplifting, you know, you kind of have that vibe. Maybe like you're born in, I don't know, like not winter, more like, like summer or fall, right? Yeah, what do you mean close? Like, like, yeah, like August, September. Yeah, like end of September. Middle September. So you're either, uh, like a Virgo or a Libra. Oh man, okay, I gotta, I gotta bounce. Hey, good to meet you. Virgo women are dangerous, they say, you know.
Yeah, it's funny because when I, you know, I'm going to the bathroom, take a look at this Virgo content.
Yeah. I'm going to the bathroom. Okay, so it's Steven. Your parents lied to you, you know? Okay, 23. Okay, I don't know, I got— sometimes I guess and I get it. I'm like, damn, sometimes I just like guess like people's age like that and I just like get it. Sometimes I get these like downloads. Crazy, right?
But actually, I don't think that this number means anything.
True, true.
Especially maybe in Europe and America, it's like very young.
Yeah, yeah.
And in Eastern Europe, it's like it's only 1.5 years left, I have to have my own apartment, my own car.
Yeah, yeah. So you came out to Bangkok like pretty recently then? I see. So you were like in Ukraine mostly? You said you're in Bali as well?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, got it. Okay, so you were in Poland. Okay, and then Bali for a little bit? I live in Bali mostly.
No, I don't really like Bali.
Yeah, why not?
I'm more city girl. Yeah, I lived in Bali for like 4 months. Yeah, it was pretty overwhelming.
Yeah, what overwhelmed you?
I mean, just the lifestyle, uh, depend—
depending on where in Bali you're at, you know.
I lived in Ubud, I lived in Canggu, I lived in Uluwatu.
Okay, so you hit all the spots, you know? Yeah, like all the spots.
I don't know, it's just like, not my place. I feel like I'm not the right energy.
Yeah, I see. Interesting, huh? Mother Bali didn't welcome you in, huh?
Yeah, I got to exit.
Oh shit. Oh damn.
Pretty scary. That's why I like that here in Bangkok there is no such culture as having your own bike.
True.
You know, one of the first times— actually, I'm also a city guy. I grew up in Seoul, I lived in New York, London. It's very— city is like my element, you know. And then the first time I went to Bali was like 2019, after I became an adult. And I had to go there because my business partner was like, yo, like This is where all the digital nomads are. Let's go there. So I go there, and now at this point, I have this trauma for riding a motorcycle because a few years back, I got injured. I never learned how to properly ride a motorcycle, like a scooter. And then I learned, and then I started driving. And then you know how sometimes the roads are super narrow and there's these rice fields? Actually fell off into the rice field.
Oh my God.
No, it wasn't bad, it wasn't bad, it was just funny. And then after that, like, I mean, everything has been great. So sometimes we experience these traumatic events, but yeah, they help, they help us grow, right?
Yeah.
And also, like, I feel like the karma in Bali is very, like, quick, you know? You do something bad and it returns to you, like, right away. No?
That's what they say, actually. They— that's what they say about not only Bali but also like volcanic islands, you know. There's like a higher level of manifestation energy, you know, because it's just like that's where like the all these like rocks and stones collide, you know. That's like volcano, but that's what volcanoes are, right? So then like, yeah, whatever you do, you get your consequences of actions. Like you see, you see them like way quicker. But isn't that a good thing? Like if you're looking to— because maybe you're doing something shady That's why you're like, man, I need to stay away from this crazy island.
I like Bangkok. It's comparing to Bali, it's like Bali, but it's more city vibe. I don't know, obviously.
Yeah, yeah.
Why did you move from the United States?
I like your question. I like your question. Yeah, I moved from the States mainly because I felt like it wasn't my place. It wasn't like an amazing place for me to really grow, you know, like experience like a new culture. Like, I mean, I have an American passport, just like I— yeah, it was great, but something, I don't know, it's like, it's hard to explain, you know, but I've When I was in the— when I got to the US, like, my one number, one of my— everything was great, but then like about a year into it, I was like, I got this itch to kind of explore Europe, for example, and Asia. And then I started exploring and I was like, yeah, I feel like, I don't know, like something tells me that like my chapter is kind of done here for now, you know. Maybe I'll come back at a certain point. So yeah, so I moved to London. London, I really felt home for me. Have you been there? Yeah. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I ended up getting like an MBA degree in London, super random. And then so like now, like I spent my time between like Southeast Asia and like Europe, but like when I go, whenever I go to Europe, it's London because that's like I built a lot of sort of like friends and, you know, I can stay there and stuff like that. Yeah, something about that city always pulls me back. You know, maybe there's like some karmic stuff, you know, in the past. Do you believe in like past lives and stuff?
Not very much, but like 10% I can give it.
Why not like 9%? Why 10%?
Just, you know, my Virgo man.
Yeah, yeah, that's a Virgo vibe, you know, 100%. So funny.
Opposite. I feel that United States is more my place.
Yeah, yeah.
But, uh, looking at the situation which is happening like right now with the politics, economics, and this trade war and stuff, I'm like, okay, maybe I want to stay in China, then come back to Europe, and then go I don't know, like from the social media, it's like, I don't know how it feels like when you live there inside, but from the outside I'm like, yeah, I mean usually like if you're from the inside it's like, it's okay.
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of chatter always, there's a lot of talk always, but like, um, yeah, it's okay, you know. I mean, I still like, yeah, last year I was in LA for like almost a month I still go back here and there, and it's like, it's okay. It's just like, I don't know, I think the US used to be the place where like there's a lot of growth happening, you know. And now like there's still a lot of growth, maybe in AI and stuff, but I would say in terms of like, uh, people doing like really interesting stuff, like, I don't know, I like Southeast Asia, you know. There's like more— there's something about here that like, it's like interesting, you know, people doing interesting projects and space. It's almost like, um, back in— back like 100, maybe like 100 years ago or something like that, the US started like discovering the West, like California, and then there was like a gold rush. And I'm giving you like a history lesson. And then people are going there to mine gold, you know. I feel like that's happening in like Asia right now, you know. So I think, I think it's a good place to be. But yeah, because, you know, once you have a passport from the US, you always got to report taxes to that to the government, you know. So it's like, uh, yeah, I'm always tied to the US, so I'll probably be back there, you know.
But I heard that there are some like options when you can—
it's—
yeah, there, there are, but it's just like very— it's a bit complicated, you know.
Yeah, most of Eastern European people are obsessed with getting passports of another country.
Yeah, so us too.
I mean, Americans also like to have like— I had a Korean passport, but then I had to— well, not I had to, I gave it up because, you know, all Korean men have to go to the military for 2 years, and I didn't want to go when I was a kid. I'm like, fuck that, you know, I don't want to have anything to do with Korea. Peace, you know. Yeah, so like once I've made that decision, no more.
Yeah, so like you don't have a passport, but then now you come to Korea as a foreigner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My parents still live there, so like I visit them there. Um, yeah, when you come to your home country, that's the thing, like I've never really felt home in Korea even though I lived there for like, what, 14 years of my life when I was a kid.
I never really felt quite home there. I always felt like an outsider in a way.
Maybe because we also moved around a lot. I think, yeah, that's— I mean, you asked me that question, like, why did you leave the US? Mainly it's like, I think deep down I wanted to find my own home, you know? And I never really felt home in Korea.
Never.
US felt close but never quite felt home. When I moved to London, I was like, okay, this is my home. I felt that.
Yeah.
I lost my home, basically.
Yeah.
For 3 years, I'm trying to figure out how to still live my life without this feeling that I lost my home. Yeah, a lot of change since then. It was really like the biggest stress in my life.
I can't even imagine.
Yeah, like first COVID, I thought it was brutal.
Yeah.
But after, you know, this gap after COVID and war, it was like 3 months of normal life.
Yeah.
So, um, that's crazy.
Crazy stuff.
I feel like I probably right now am able to, you know, breathe and start living the life without saying any, you know, memories, trying to hold back for Ukraine, like my family.
I see. So your parents are in Ukraine still?
No, no, no.
They all left?
Yeah, they all left almost, but part of my family is still there, mostly my grandpa and like my cousins.
Do you have any siblings? Only child. Princess.
You know, in Eastern Europe, everybody is equal. Most of girls are not treated like princesses.
Just a joke. Just a joke.
Everybody has to survive.
Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. Especially in Ukraine. Crazy stuff. Wow, I see. So you're leaving Bangkok at the end of the month. Are you excited or sad?
It's gonna be definitely a new chapter in my life. Yeah, of course excited. Yeah, I have a lot of like stress inside because as I said, like for me, China is left— it was never a new country Korea, but I want— where I wanted to go.
I see, I see.
I think she go to Korea.
Yeah, you should come there.
Yeah, yeah.
But what do you like? Why do you like Korea though? Like, why do you— why do you want to go there?
I really like this food.
You like Korean food? Yo, let's go get some Korean food done. I've been, I've been looking to have some Korean food.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, nice. It's like a typical, like, an Eastern European vibe, you know, not spicy. Okay, so I was like, it's like saying like, yeah, I'm gonna have syrniki, but like no cream cheese, you know? It's like, okay, well, like, you know our culture too well.
With syrniki, I immediately knew that you were like deeper. So I like your language. Style, traditions. Yeah, I don't know, it's just like, you know, I feel it.
Have you had, uh, have you had some Korean drinks before, like makgeolli or soju or anything like that?
No?
You know what they are? Like, it's like rice wine, unfiltered rice wine.
Like this?
It's like this.
I mean, this doesn't really— like, it's kind of like this, you know? Usually, like, the packaging is like this.
No, I've never— no, it's like chai or something?
No, it's like a rice— it's like rice wine. They make rice wine with rice. Do you drink alcohol or no?
No.
No? That's probably why you haven't drunk it. But would you try it?
I don't think so.
No?
I don't really like alcohol.
I like that. I like that. I'm the same.
As a European child, I've had my party wild animal style.
From when you're 13?
Yeah, yeah, from 13 to like 16, 17, that period of time I did everything except art. So yeah, right now I'm all about house and matcha and syrniki. You know, you can get syrniki like here. I mean, delivery they have. If you like it. Or you want to try? I can tell you.
Thank you. Are you on Instagram?
Yeah.
Yeah, let's connect. Can you open? No case? What if you like drop it? This is so good. Burger Pie. This is me. I'm going to follow you. So you like Korean food? When's the last time you had Korean food?
Sorry?
When's the last time you had Korean food?
Well, I think the last time I had it, we went to like Korean barbecue.
Was it a good one?
It was okay.
Yeah, okay doesn't sound great. No, that was okay.
Like, it was very spicy.
Oh, okay, that's why. Usually barbecue shouldn't be spicy. Maybe you didn't go to— maybe you went to like a Chinese one.
Korean.
Okay, okay, okay, got it. I'm going to— let's go get some Korean food. How does that sound?
I don't know, we can try.
Yeah, why not, right? But what's your favorite Korean food though? Like barbecue or like something else? Have you tried a lot? Okay, what have you tried? Barbecue and what else?
I don't exactly like the names, but also in Poland there was different, like one cafe and they just tried to like it to go there. I don't know, like typing it you as a Korean can show the original Korean. In Japan they have one sushi, and in Ukraine they have—
yeah, sushi with cream cheese. Yeah, yeah, blasphemy.
So I think it's the same like what I tried in Poland, just Korean.
Yeah, and real Korean.
Yeah, but again, I tried I tried kimchi, but I think it was not right.
Okay, have you had like kimchi pancake?
Yes, I tried it.
Yeah, was it great or not great?
It's okay.
Okay, yeah, okay means that you haven't tried the right stuff.
Yeah, it is like very unusual.
I mean, what do you expect?
It's like, yeah, Poland, for example, I tried I tried zucchini pancakes. So between kimchi and zucchini, I prefer zucchini.
Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it.
What else is like— what do you like?
I'm a simple guy, you know. I really like, uh, have you had— you know bibimbap? You know what that is? It's like you have this like a stone pot, like a sizzling stone pot, and you put rice in there and then like a lot of different vegetables and some meat. And then put some sesame oil and then like fermented soybean paste, and then you just like mix everything.
So like bowl?
It's like a bowl, but then it's like the bottom is like sizzling, right? So like at the bottom of the pot, the rice gets a little bit crispy. Super nice, you know? And it's like super healthy. I'm into health, you know? No, I'm here until the end of the month actually as well. I'm here for like coaching my clients. They're kind of flying from different parts of the world and then we're going to live together and I'm going to coach them in person. And then Bangkok is just kind of like a hub.
So like, you go with them to clubs to meet girls and teach them how to communicate with girls?
Everything and everything. Like sometimes like clubs, bars, sometimes like during the day, um, anytime, anywhere. But then that's kind of like the— there's many different sort of like stages, right? That's like stage 1, but it's more like, you know, it's like how do you express? How do you express in a way that like, you know, makes you feel whole and complete, you know? If you keep on expressing in a certain way, like, but then you know that the right way to communicate is like something else, like Why do you keep on doing that? You know, what are some of the limiting beliefs that, you know, you've been telling yourself? You know, what are— what's actually stopping at the subconscious level? Like all these things, you know. How do you— when you communicate with someone, how do you make them feel seen and heard? How do you actually create this like a strong emotional connection, etc.?
Yeah, and from like what nationalities, cultures you acquire most the problem?
They're from everywhere. Yeah, so I have like a client from Canada, Luxembourg, Italy, Dubai, US, like just UK, just everywhere. As long as they can speak English, you know. Their vibe has to be great though, you know. It's just like, uh, usually my brand is very much like, um, yeah, as a man you need to know where you're going in life. And then it's like being comfortable in your own skin, knowing where you're going, and then having fun along the way. So it's like a lot of guys, they already know, they already have the right elements, then they're not, they're kind of like, they're really successful in their careers, for example, but then in their non-professional life, it's like they're struggling. So it's almost like, okay, let's actually help you switch gears, help you operate differently. Yeah, I like it. So I used to be— I used to be— I used to do something completely different. I used to be in like finance, you know, like suit, tie, like glasses, and trust fund. Yeah, yeah, hedge fund. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it, that's it. Yeah.
And what made you switch from finance to You're really great with questions.
We should do some podcasts. Next time, maybe we'll go to a restaurant and then I'll just set up a thing and then it's like podcast vibe. Great idea, right? It's a long story, but to really simply— to simplify it, I'm a very vision-driven person. Once I have a goal, It's like I'm very like relentless, you know, I just like go for it. And then I always thought that like my goal was to like, you know, graduate from college, make a ton of money as fast as possible. Like my parents have done so much for me and my sisters to like help them retire faster. This was my goal, right? And then pretty much like a year into it, not even a year into it, the first job right out of college, I realized it wasn't what I was looking for. So I've just been like looking to just like trying different things, you know. And then this coaching, I realized that— I mean, this is just something that really helped my life, you know. I went through a pretty crazy like depression like when I was like in my early 20s. And then like, yeah, like just like getting coaching and personal development, this type of stuff, like it all really helped me get to the next level. Helped me really feel whole and complete and like really helped me like completely reinvent myself. So that really taught me, and it's just something that also has been naturally happening, just like a lot of my friends, they're just like asking me for help. So like, you know what, if it's naturally happening, why not actually do it?
Wow, that's impressive. Wait, I wanted to say something, but I forgot. Oh yeah, so I wanted to say that when, like, you know, when you're like 16, 17, everybody's saying that like 20s is the best time of your life. You're gonna like party, travel, and all of this stuff. But actually, almost everybody who I know in their 20s, like, having depression, have struggle to finding themselves, changing those careers. Careers. Yeah, careers.
Yeah.
And, uh, yeah, yeah, it's like the, um—
How old are you now?
Huh?
How old are you now?
Oh, did I not tell you? Oh, maybe I didn't tell you. How do you think I am?
Mostly just 30s.
Yeah, damn, I look old, huh?
No, I mean, 30s is fine.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, true, true, true, true. I'm 38.
What? No way.
No. 38?
Yeah, why would I lie to you?
No. Really?
Yeah, I'm 38. I was born in 1986. Do the math, you know. So I'm actually closer to 40.
That's crazy.
Yeah, crazy, huh?
You must have a lot of experience.
It's one of the things that like I get— I actually feel like younger the older I get because I'm like, like I'm doing everything in my life that's really aligned with like my soul's purpose and mission, right? So I feel like very like uplifted, and that's why like I think I'm always expressing my truth, right? So I get younger, but I get younger, but then when I was younger, actually, I was like more stressed out because I was like, oh, like, what should I do? When I look at my photos from my, my 20s, I look like way older. I was trying to grow like facial hair and I couldn't even grow properly, you know? It's like little stubbles here and there.
I feel like mostly Asians do not have Yeah, mostly no.
I mean, look at my legs. It's like I don't even need to shave. Hey, it's a privilege now, you know. It didn't feel like a privilege back then, you know. I'm like, no one takes me serious because I look way younger, you know. So I'm like trying to grow facial hair. Now I'm like, well, I embrace it, you know. Do you have any plans for Songkran?
Yeah, I think my friends and I, we are going to do this like festival thing.
Oh, the S2O or something? Yeah, like music festival. Like everyone's going there.
Probably.
Yeah, they are planning everything and I'm just— I'm here.
I'm so lazy.
All that stuff. Yeah, I need to buy this like water gun.
Yeah, me too, me too. Wait, Songkran, does it start on Saturday or Sunday?
Sunday.
Sunday, okay. Okay, okay. Yeah, I need to buy a water gun too.
Yeah, so like I saw outside.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So maybe next year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's, let's vibe. Let's vibe. You completely distracted me. I was looking— my friend was like getting a coffee and then I was just like waiting for them and I sat down and they're just like gone, you know? What? Where are they going? Anyway, Kate. So do you go by Kate or Katya? Not Katya for sure. Kate.
Kate. My, um, how to say, like, fake name for, like, career, for my career, my social media, foreigners, and all of this stuff. So usually I don't go with my Ukrainian name.
So you prefer Kate?
Yeah.
Okay.
Kate, hope you have a lovely rest of your day. What are you doing?
Content planning.
Content planning. Do you like Reels or like YouTube or what kind of content? More TikTok? Okay, you're more active on TikTok.
I want to become.
Okay.
And also I need to do some updates on Instagram, his portfolio and all of that. Yeah, you know, modern stuff.
Yeah, yeah, got it.
Cool.
All right, well, hope you have an amazing vibe. Yeah, cheeky, cheeky of you to distract me like that, you know.
You know, I was hiding.
Hey, your vibe, they— you know Nikola Tesla? You know the guy Nikola Tesla, right? He's like— I like that, um, that you know. It's like, if you want to understand anything about universe, energy, frequency, and vibration, you know vibration, it transcends, you know, your visual stuff. It's like you're like, yo, like, I'm calling in a Korean guy. Okay, have an amazing day. All right, see you.
Bye.










