245 Appointments From Posting On Tiktok?!

All right, what's going on, guys? It's Tim and Julian here from Advanced Agent Marketing. We have Dan Trinity on here. He's doing some crazy stuff in the organic space on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook with the Iuls and generating, you know, organic appointments, generating leads for free. So we brought him on here to talk about what he's doing with that and how you guys can replicate that within your own business. So, Dan, dude, just kind of give us a background on yourself. How did you get into the insurance business? And you know, where do you come from?

Yeah, 100%. Thank you guys for having me on here. So from New Jersey. I'm actually back at my small family farm up here in Jersey, in northwest Jersey. So I'm chilling up here for right now. Went to school in Carolina, so not actually too far away from you guys. And I did the whole, hey, let's go to a bunch of school, you know, pile on the debt and get a good corporate job. So I did that. I'm like, shit, this freaking sucks. Like, no, not that it sucks, but for me and what I wanted to do is just, it wasn't getting me to where I wanted to go. So I was looking for any entry level sales position where I, you know, even if I had to take a massive pay cut, I was cool doing that so I could at least learn something and like build my. If I'm going to work like a dog, I'm cool, but by God, I'm going to work like a dog for myself, right? And then so I got and found all these insurance. Things kept popping up and I found insurance. And for the first like years now, I've been in insurance about two and a half years, right around two and a half years, not coming up on three in January. And it's been fun. For the majority of it, I was running final expense, mortgage protection all in person, running 30, 40 appointments a week. About a year ago, I started transitioning to more virtual, doing all mortgage protection, final expense over the phone. And then, dude, that's just like, there's a lot of cool shit you can do in insurance. Like a lot of really freaking cool shit, especially for retirement. And I love money, I love business. I always just like love learning about different things that people can do with money. And I started looking like infinite banking Iuls tax free retirement. I'm like, shit, this stuff is really cool. People don't know about this enough. I'm like, yo, if I can just market products to people, like what this can do for people just Talk about what cool stuff can do. Well, by God, I'm assuming that would also be actually a pretty cool recruiting strategy because then I'll be recruiting people that actually care about doing this stuff too. So it's been kind of two birds in one stone. But since three, four months ago, we, we've. I've actually turned off all my leads so I no longer have leads coming in. I, I do, I love leads, don't get me wrong. But now we're able to generate them internally from, from social media. And the last 45 days, we've had about 200, 250 leads come in. So still in the very early stages, but obviously once that gets rocking and rolling, that's gonna, that's gonna be a lot of fun.

Yeah. For real. And for, for the audience out there that isn't really familiar with, you know, infinite baking and that whole concept. Can I give like a brief overview of what that looks like?

And keep in mind, like, I'm still learning all this myself. I've been doing this about three or so. I've been doing Iuls for a while, but I'm big into finance. Right. And you have a few different buckets in terms of retirement strategies. You have, you know, like a 401k Roth IRA, market accounts. You know, 401k is going to be a tax deferred account, which means you haven't paid taxes on it yet, but down the road we're gonna pay taxes on it. When Social Security came out, it wasn't meant to be what it is today. It wasn't meant to be a retirement vehicle for folks. It was created back in 35 by Roosevelt when there were about 42 fricking employees paying for every one retiree. It was still at an age when the life expectancy was 62. And Social Security didn't really kick in until 62. Right. So maybe people use it for a year or two for living too long. It wasn't meant for people to start taking it at 62 and live till 90. Right. That's a third of someone's lifestyle life frame. But now Social Security and Medicaid and Medicare, about 70% of the United States budget, just those three programs. And now there's only about two workers paying for one retiree. Right. So I kind of look at that like a Ponzi scheme, personally, when you have new people's money paying for older. Anyway, that's, that's a whole different tangent.

Right.

What's gonna happen when, you know, Social Security cannot. This is my take on it. But Social Security can't crash. If Social Security crashes, we're going to be screwed as a country.

Oh dude.

Okay, well where's the money coming from? Right? How are we going to pay for Social Security? And by God, don't think they're not eyeing what people got in 401ks and you know, don't think they're not eyeing what people have in different retirement accounts. Income coming in right, right now is actually one of the lowest taxes of the history of the United States. Even though we all bitch and moan, complain about high taxes, they're very low right now. You know back in the 60s and 70s, the middle income America was getting taxed 60, 70%. So let's say you have, dude, like a million bucks in a 401k and overnight your tax bracket goes from 30% to 60%. You just lost 300,000 bucks overnight. Pretty much like in the blink of an eye just because they changed the tax code. I love using life insurance as a retirement tool. And you can, I use a lot of Iuls for tax free retirement. So how it works for getting an IUL and whole life is very similar. Right now my bread and butter is an IUL index, Universal life. So you have, let's say Tim a Julian, you guys are putting in a thousand bucks a month into an iul. You could have, you have two buckets, you have your cost of insurance and you have your cash value, right? So if you took a thousand bucks and you could have let's say a million dollar life insurance policy versus a 30 million, you would agree that a 30 million dollar life insurance policy would cost a lot more than a million. It's not about how much insurance can I get for a thousand, it's how little insurance can I get for a thousand bucks. That way out of that thousand, only a portion of it is actually going to your cost of insurance. Most of it is going towards your cash bucket. And then how the policy works, let's say down the line you have 100,000 bucks sitting in there and you take out, let's say you have 100,000 here, you take out a $20,000 loan against the policy. And all this is a very high level. So if anyone listening wants more research, more information, please do some more research on this. It's really cool stuff, but we do want to make sure we understand what we're doing. It's at a very high level. Let's say you had 100k in there, you took out a $20,000 loan against it to Go start a business or pay for something for the house, whatever you want to do. It's your money. You're your own bank. You don't have to go apply for anything. It's yours. As long as it's there, you can take it. And you take out a $20,000 loan, historically an IUL will grow at around seven percent. Even though you took out a $20,000 Loan, which right now is a lot of it, people have it at 4 or 5% interest. If your account's still growing 7%, you're still making 2% even though you took the money out. And you technically don't have to pay it back if you don't want to. If you guys went to a bank and got a loan for 100k, you're not getting taxed on the 100k, right? Because you got to put the money back. Same thing's true with the insurance policy, except your policy helps pay the money back for you or the interest on the loan. And there's no set time frame that says, hey, you have to have it paid off in three years. It's kind of an infinite loan. You never really have to pay it back. So it works out really well for people that want a tax free income. Right now, let's say you guys were putting 5,000 bucks a month in a 401k, right? You're not getting taxed on yet. You let it sit and ride until you know you're 60. You do the same thing with a Roth IRA, but a Roth IRA is after tax contributions. You know, let's say it's 3,500 bucks you're putting in, let's say, you know, after a basic interest rate. Both accounts would generate you the ex. As long as the taxes stay the exact same. Both accounts would actually generate you the same amount of money in retirement if the taxes stayed the same. This is how we tax now or tax later. Well, if taxes go up 10%, your 401k certainly or now wasn't as good as the Roth IRA because now your tax brackets much higher. And when you're older, you typically don't have a lot of deductions like you do now for a lot of young folks and working folks. You know, a mortgage is a big deduction that they have on their taxes. You know, child, child credits, right. There's a bunch of different write offs that you have that typically when you're retiring, you don't have those write offs anymore. So even if you're making the same, your tax bracket might Go higher. I can go on and on about that on days. But how the IUL and just cash value insurance works is that you develop cash inside the policy that you have access to kind of like a savings account on steroids. So that way when, you know, when you take the money out, it's tax free and it has what's called uninterrupted compound growth. So let's say, Tim, you know, you had 100k in there, you took out a $50,000 loan. You didn't actually take the money out of the policy. The 100k still growing and compounding at 100k, that's the beauty of it. So that the growth keeps getting off of a bigger and bigger number. So in a nutshell, that's pretty much how it works.

Dude, is that how you run your appointments?

Yeah. Where do we sign?

Yeah, for real, I'm sold, bro.

But that is actually how I open up a lot of my appointments, just because, you know, I feel very strongly about it and I do a lot of it myself. I use it to open up other stuff and other businesses. And I just. I find it fun. And I think it actually is really powerful, you know, especially when people start realizing that taxes, they are really low. Right now, taxes go up 20%. A lot of America is kind of screwed. A lot of us are just kind of hoping it doesn't happen, right? You guys, you remember something you just hope doesn't happen. You try to, like, put it out.

Put it out of your mind.

Yeah. Do you, like, just like when the stock market just freaking tanked, you know, for a while, I just didn't want to look at my account.

I'm like, nope.

If I don't see it and it doesn't exist, I'm good. It's still there. Like, that's stupid, right? I got a plan for that. I got to see that stuff. And I just really like having a fort in life insurance. It allows me to go take other risks knowing that, hey, I can come back, my fort's still going to be here, but my safety and my growth will still be here. But, yeah, it's a lot better than a savings account because, you know, right now inflation is 9%. It's like, what the fuck? You know, that that sucks. You know, it's not that it sucks. You just have to know how to outpace it.

Exactly. Exactly. So I'm curious, Dan, when you're running these appointments, these are organic leads. You know, a lot of them are probably seeking knowledge from you, right? And so they're actually, they're not just interested in buying a product, but they're actually interested in educating themselves. Have you noticed a difference in. In quality of prospect from organic versus paid leads?

It is no longer a sale.

What do you mean?

I no longer have to sell anyone, you know, if I'm running, to be honest, like final expense, mortgage protection. Sometimes there's some hard closes in there. It's, you know, not in a bad way, but it is.

Right?

Not, not a bad way, but it's a hard sell. Like, Mary, you just told me you're going to be screwed if Bob passes tomorrow. What do you mean? You're going to think about it?

Yeah, exactly.

They're like, mary, are you really telling me these $50 a month in cigarettes are more important than getting something in place that's not going to be on the side of things, at least to the Iuls? What I'm doing is people that genuinely care about retirement, right? So it's either they like it or they don't. I don't know why it took me so long to, to kind of catch on to this, but you guys know Gary Vee, right?

Yeah.

So he always talks about, hey, just get free educational content out there for people. If you get free shit out there for people, people will come to you. So that's pretty much what we've been doing, just getting free educational content out there. And some of my calls are just straight up educational. They're not going to do anything. But I'm not going to twist someone's arm to do this. Like, hey, what happens about your retirement if you don't do this today? There's really none of that. It's more just kind of presenting how I look at final expense and mortgage protection. I still do run some. It's high volume, right. It's simple, too. You got whole life, it's with you for your whole life. You got term, it's with you for a period of years. IUL is much more product because you could easily screw someone up with the whole life or with an iul, if you don't know what you're doing. And when you're, when you set it up properly as an agent, your commissions get crushed. So you can't just be in it for the money. You know, if I have a client putting a thousand bucks a month into an IUL, the payout might only be at, you know, 1500, $2,000, even though they're putting in a thousand because I don't want my commission to be high because that Means that more of that's coming out of their policy. It's going to do less for them. Yes. Would I like to get a better commission? 100%. Right. Who would say no to that? But I couldn't. My right mind set someone up improperly because that's. They'd go 10, 15, 20 years without actually knowing it if they didn't know what they're doing. But when you know how to set it up properly, it's, it's amazing. And then I'll just let it go through. Kind of like what we just did now just kind of my background, you know, I'm a tax free retirement specialist. And go through that literally the same spiel that I just told you guys. And then we'll go through numbers on an illustration, say, hey, would this help you? If they say meh, that just means I don't have a client. If they say, yeah, it would. Cool, let's see if we can get you approved.

There you go. And yet one of the, one of the things that you've been doing that's, that's really cool. I don't see a lot of other people, you know, in this space, you know, financial services and insurance in general really doing that is you're starting to post content and generate those organic. And so actually I scrolled down on your Instagram before the interview and I was looking. Seems like before you were actually making content directed at agents, right? Like trying to recruit. And then all of a sudden there was a switch. You started talking to the consumers and trying to generate the organic leads. What made you have that switch? Was it like a mentor of yours or just kind of a switch in mindset? What ultimately led you to do that?

So there was someone at my agency that started doing it. In terms of what we're talking about, it used to be all recruiting, recruiting. And then I'm like, no shit, you gotta wa to get high ticket leads. I say the average premium is like four or five hundred bucks a month. And then you're doing it all for free. Like no way. That sounds really cool. I like that. And I love iul. So it's like up my best of my alley. I'm like, if, if I can actually figure out this process in terms of generating free leads, still giving agents high comp. They got free leads, very low chargebacks. I'm like, I should be able to scale the crap out of this. And people can have a really nice work life balance. At the same time, if you run 10 IUL leads, I'm always Big on like work, life balance, you know, for the first two years I work like a dog and I still work probably 60, 70 hours a week. So it's not like I'm not working hard. I mean, to some people that would be slacking off a lot. But I like having fun. You know, I spent most of this year in South America. I just got back last week to Jersey. So I love traveling and being able to do the IUL has allowed me to do that. And that's, you know, might be a smaller niche I'm going after. That's what I want to go after in terms of recruiting side people that want to care, that they care about financial services. So I figured that would be a great recruiting tactic. And the guy that I'm learning from, I mean, now I'm pretty much on my own. But I was learning from his lead. He was not doing too much, maybe like 200k a month. And now last week they submitted 400k with like 16 agents.

This is just from pivoting over to generating the organic leads.

Exactly.

Doubled their production. And so you said when they were doing the 200k was a month and.

That was 400 a week.

Oh, a week. I thought you said it was 400amonth. So they're, they were doing paid leads, 16 agents were doing paid leads and then generating 200k a month and now they're doing 400k a week with organic lead.

Yeah, I mean, dude, now the IUL Infinite Banking, dude, you're going to run into some high net worth folks. You can do what's called premium finance. I have a guy that just sold a property down in Austin, Texas. He's going to make about $15 million. You can actually utilize insurance to get rid of your capital gains taxes legally. Just like you could do a 1031 exchange on a property. You know, imagine you guys bought a house for 100k, you flipped it, you made 200k. As long as you go take the profits and put it into a bigger house, you can delay taxes, you don't actually have to pay taxes on it. And then down the road you can donate it or put it in a trust and you never fucking pay taxes. Legally you can do the same. True. With life insurance you can actually get a bank to fund, you know, if you have a net worth of like ballpark 3 million to start with. If you're like under 30 or 40, you can actually do stuff called premium financing where the bank is actually going to pay a majority of your life insurance premium. So your Cash value is, you know, if you put in like, let's say, Tim, you're the bank and Julian, you're the insured. Julian, you put in 100k a year, the bank's going to put in another 900,000 bucks. So your cash value is growing off of a million dollars a year, even though you only put in 100k. If you're a business owner, you can also write that off on your as a tax deduction as well. There's legal ways to do that. And then you access the money tax free down the road as well. So there's pretty cool shit. And when you run into stuff like that, I mean, dude, you could submit cases that are 100k, 200k a year easy. And it's really cool for the client. Like, it's super freaking cool for the client too.

I've never, I've never heard of an agency grow at that pace with. Or get. I've never heard of an agency grow at that pace with 16 agents. I don't think with paid leads.

Well, it's just, it's who you're. It's who you're targeting, right? So, dude, if, if I wrote 200k with 16 leads on final expense and mortgage protection with 16 agents, dude, I'd be thrilled. That's really good. It's just, it's a different type of client you're targeting, right. So you got to be very knowledgeable in terms of how to set this stuff up because you can do some really cool stuff and the more knowledge you have on this stuff, it's. There's a lot of money in the States. People don't know what to do with it now for a lot of people throwing a thousand bucks or something a month in a big deal, that's wild.

So it sounds like. Because I feel like there's a lot of people out here in this industry right now. It seems like, it seems like there was almost like a little shift when we saw the, the pandemic come around where everyone started to realize, oh, wow, go driving around like a chicken with your head cut off and beating doors down and asking people to sit on the couch and smoke cigarettes with them. They started to realize that wasn't really the best way to do things because they stopped getting into those same doors. And so a lot of people, they tried telesales, they're learning telesales. They're doing zoom. They're doing all these other things. And there's a lot of people that are trying to. They're thinking about Doing it. Or maybe they're even trying to do this influencer thing to get clients or agents. And the one thing that stood out to me that you said is you have to have a lot of knowledge on the subject. And I feel like that's really important for a lot of people in the audience right now, because I feel like you can't really offer value to the marketplace if you're. If you don't have knowledge to share.

Yeah, man, but it's like, it's so simple. You can just talk about life insurance. What's the difference between whole life, term life and. Dude, you'd be surprised how I. When I. Before I got into insurance, I had no freaking idea the difference. I just thought you got insurance through work. That's it. So anyone that has your insurance license, you know a lot more than you think you do. Like, give yourself credit. The big thing is being consistent. What I see a lot of people and dude, TikTok is so easy to Instagram, so you can do what's called a duet and remake. You just put your face up here, you click a button and you just nod your head head and look at someone else talk. You guys see a lot of those. It takes two minutes to do that and post it. The key is every day. If you're not doing it every day, maybe you could get away with it if you just have freaking baller content. I don't. I gotta post at least once a day on Tik Tok. It's typically more than once a day. That's where I see most people don't make it organically. You know, at first I was almost worried that everyone was going to catch on, but then at the end of the day, people ain't gonna. They're too lazy, won't do it. 99% of Americans, if you don't see that immediate satisfaction, you're gonna fucking stop. Just like every July or January 1st rolls around, oh, everyone's at the gym. February 1st, crickets, ghost town. I think New Year's resolutions are a sack of shit. Because if you're waiting for New Year's.

If you have to wait until the new year to reinvent yourself or start improving, you're not gonna improve yourself in.

Like, October, November, like, the holidays start coming around and I like, kind of, oh, I'm gonna start for my new year. So you kind of give yourself, like, a reason to slack off, like two, three months. But it's consistency. No one's gonna freaking be consistent. But social media is an everyday thing. I Even talk to my agents today. Hey, if you want to do this, this every day, if you don't do it every day, if you know that you're not going to be able to be consistent, just don't even start. Because it's two jobs. You still have to dial your leads, book your appointments. Because I've seen agents try to go straight social media. After seeing some success that we've had, they're going bankrupt because now they're not working.

It's a transition.

Exactly. Even the other week I still helped out a few mortgage protection folks. You got to make the transition. You have two full time jobs. Social media is not easy. Like people think it's very simple. I used to think it's very simple. Oh, why is this taking you forever? It's not easy. Like it can take a lot of time. Especially if you're making your own content, right?

Where, where do you see? I'm curious which platform? Because we got Instagram, we got TikTok, we got YouTube shorts, Facebook. I mean there's, there's so many different rabbits to chase, right? Which platform do you see the most growth potential for? You know, an agent watching this that wants to get into starting the organic content and getting those free leads, they're okay with putting in the consistent work, but they're not sure where to put it into. Which platform would you say is the best?

I don't know if there's the best, but once you post one video, dude, it's so simple to post it off on all platforms. There's an app called like Snap Tick you can post, you can copy a link on TikTok, put it in Snaptick app. It gets rid of the watermark you post in your Instagram and your Facebook haven't seen that much success. I don't think on Instagram most of it has been off TikTok and Facebook. Okay, Facebook we've seen a lot of. The reason I like Facebook, I like TikTok because people are squirrel brained, right. And they click on stuff all the time like oh, so you just, yeah, understand that too. And you gotta be able to capture someone's attention. I find Facebook is a little bit more storytelling but Facebook makes it a lot easier to, for someone to message you. Around TikTok, you can't message someone unless you guys follow each other. On Facebook you can just get private messages all the time. YouTube shorts we just started experimenting with, we're starting to see some decent results on some of my agents pages. That could be pretty cool because you'd be a first market in YouTube. So it might take a little bit to get going but like no one else is really doing it on YouTube. Yeah, you could really. That's what Gary, Gary Vee talks about right now too. If you're not on YouTube chores, you're a freaking idiot.

And you know, if you look at the way the industry has been ran forever, it's always been a, it's like there's an influence insurance influencer. So you have Jake from state form, you have flow from progressive, the, you know, whatever the gecko is from a geico, there's always like a figure that represents the company and everyone deals with their, their local insurance agent. It's. They want to deal with somebody they trust. And at the end of the day what we're seeing is a transition from you know, advertising yourself on a billboard. Hey, I'm Dan the IUL guy. To being on social media. TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, all of the above. So at the end of the day it's the exact same thing. Just the medium is changing.

Well yeah, you guys probably know this too. Being in this space. You probably know more about that stuff than me. But how I always looked at social media. It's your digital real estate, right? So just because we're not neighbors physically, I am your neighbor on social media. You could be living in friggin Australia right now, in Perth. Literally the furthest place for me in like New York area right now. We could be neighbors on social media because we follow each other and like each other's content. So I got a lot more familiarity with you than the crazy neighbor I got over here next door. Right. So it's just a completely changed the way business is happening. No, people follow people and when they click on our stuff, not the first video they've seen. Daven's watching your videos, they've been watching other people's videos. It's just something finally clicked with them on yours and they have trust with you. And dude, it's. These appointments are fun. Like some of my, the people I sit with, they start picking up. Rich dad, poor dad. We chat every once in a while. You're working with people who really care about their future.

Yeah.

That's awesome. And one thing Dan, that I really like about what you're doing is it seems like you've kind of. You were talking about how you got all the student loans out, right? You're really into finance. So obviously you've been, you've been driving your own business forward. You're starting new Businesses, you're doing things like that, and it seems like you're really giving back to the community. And you're talking about people that are picking up rich dad, poor dad, maybe they don't even get into the insurance business. Who knows what their, what their career might be. But for you, what is one piece of advice that you would give to someone who is. Maybe they're graduating high school or graduating college and they don't think they want to pursue more education. They're maybe looking to pursue a career in finance or sales or business. What's one piece of advice that you would give that person so that they can move the needle forward in their life?

Pick one and stick with it for at least two years. So all you're going to hear all these financial gurus, right? These millionaires always have seven streams of income, right? A lot of these people that are listening to this, they want financial freedom, right? But imagine financial freedom was this island that we're trying to get to, right? If you started building one bridge and then, oh, forex trading, you go build another bridge, you start building another bridge, right? And you're like, oh, crypto, you start building another bridge. Like, dude, every time you start building another bridge, it distracts you from building one bridge. Once you have one bridge to the island of financial freedom, dude, now you can just pretty much buy your way to the other bridges. It's so much easier to do that. But where I see a lot of American, especially young dudes, myself included, is it's like, oh, squirrel, next opportunity. Oh, squirrel, next one. And we don't give enough time for one damn thing. So, like, there's people, oh, I want to do real estate, I want to do insurance, and I want to do drop shipping, dude, you're not going to have enough time to do that all. Like, even in insurance, I want to do life insurance. I don't want to do Medicare. I want to do pnc. If you're new, you're not going to have time to do them all. If you are doing them all, you're not going to have time to do them all. Well, you won't be an expert in your field. You just. You don't have the time to do it. Even me just with Iuls. Pick it up. Whole life, there's a lot of shit to learn on that end. Even though it's the same concept that there's a lot of different stuff going on, even though it's very, very similar. Iul and whole life, my advice would be to pick one that you really enjoy doing.

I'm curious, do you listen to Alex Horosi? I heard that exact same metaphor on a YouTube video of his last night with the Bridges.

I love that Y. I do. I think I. I heard it from. Why am I blanking the guy from bigger pockets, Brandon Green or Brandon Turner. I forget his name. Yeah, blanket on that. If he's listening to this, hell yeah. But he's probably not yet.

Maybe one day he will. But yeah, he used the same. I think it was him or Alex a while ago use the same analogy. And that just kind of stuck home. Dude. Like even I was trying to do Medicare. I was trying to do aca. I was trying to do whole life Iuls run an agency. Dude, that was seven jobs in one. And I didn't really. You think it's the same even if it's in the same roof? Like, stick one thing and be an expert and make sure you enjoy doing it. We all want to get to a spot where we're probably not working anymore, right? But even when we're not working, we're going to be doing something. Make sure you enjoy doing that and monetize the out of that. So that way life is fun. Like, dude, now when I'm making these TikToks and setting up people, I enjoy it. It's fun. So that'd be. That'd be my advice. Try something you love and stick to one.

Dude, that's fantastic. I feel like I learned a lot. I'm sure the audience did as well. And you know, biggest thing, if you're an insurance agent, you want to start generating organic leads, just start posting and doing it consistently. Pick one niche and stick with it. And you will see growth over time.

In regards to. I gotta put one more point in. It's okay if you don't know what you're doing. When I first started versus now, it's totally different. I'm still not good at it. It doesn't matter how you look, doesn't matter if you're fat, skinny, black, white, blonde hair, big beard, no beard. It doesn't matter. People are getting on there for your content, right? So just get on there and start posting. What really helped me a lot is I picked three or four people that I liked and I just stole their shit and put my words on it. That's it. Just made it my own. And then you start thinking of your own ideas now. Like, my whole phone's got just ideas written down every Monday. I have four hours blocked out on Monday to make my content for the week. So if you want, just go on my Instagram or TikTok. It's just D Trinity. Just steal my shit. I don't care. Remix it, duet it, whatever you want to do. Just get your stuff out there.

Exactly. And Dan, So for everybody, I feel like a lot of us, I feel like Tim and I have gotten a lot of value out of this. And I know there's agents out there who are watching this and are thinking, wow, I didn't even know Infinite Banking existed. And they are. They're thinking to themselves, I'm trying to get like, this guy. For the agents that are trying to maybe work with you or looking to maybe get involved with your agency or learn from you personally, where can they find you at?

To start a conversation, just shoot me a text. 973-903-0137. Just ship me on a message on Instagram. Just D Trinity or Facebook. Dan Trinati, if you want to get working with me, I completely change the way I do things. Now you get ready to read. We're gonna throw a lot of books your way, and we want people to come at this stuff with a lot of knowledge. Because when you're doing Iuls, it is a lot about knowledge stuff. It's a lot about just how finance works as a whole. So expect to get ready to learn how the financial market works.

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