In this interview segment, host Tyler Wagner asks travel writer Charlie Walker about a viral incident in which Walker was detained in Russia. Walker recounts being tracked by Russian authorities, arrested in the port town of Tixi after a 600‑mile hike, and charged with conducting journalism on a tourist visa, photographing military installations, and asking provocative questions about Ukraine. He explains that under a new Russian law introduced in March, such activities can be treated as espionage, carrying up to 15 years in prison. Walker suggests the arrest could serve as a political bargaining chip, potentially allowing Russia to use a British citizen as leverage in diplomatic negotiations.
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Well, how about this other— because I know this is the one clip, I think, from Rogan that went pretty viral on YouTube, is you were in like a Russian jail or something for a month or something like that. Is that— is that what it— so yeah, what happened there?
Yeah, that was earlier this year. Um, okay. Yeah, yeah, I've been through the Russian judicial system, uh, a few times now, um, but not for a few years until recently. But the police were getting reports about where I was, and I knew I was being tracked And on arrival in Tixi, the port town at the end of my journey after 600 miles of hiking, they arrested me and took me to court under the charge of conducting journalism while traveling on a tourist visa and photographing military sites and asking provocative questions about Ukraine. I was there as a travel writer to learn about Well, to have an experience, for one. I wanted to, I suppose, pit myself against the element. Police came to the apartment I'd rented just for a few days and said, "Well, you need to come down to the police station for registration." Photographing military sites, it could be reframed as espionage. Journalism accusation and the asking questions about Ukraine very much made out that I was a journalist looking to spread lies or fake news about the situation in Ukraine, which the Russian government, the Kremlin, has a very particular line or narrative of propaganda. So anyone straying from that can fall foul of a law they introduced just in March, after I arrived in the country, which has a sentence of up to 15 years for exactly that. It would've been very convenient for Russia to have another British citizen in a prison somewhere that could be used as a, you know, a trade.