In this Business Blast Podcast episode, host Tyler Wagner interviews quality‑of‑mind expert Piers Thurston. Thurston shares a personal story about listening to his inner realizations, which he credits for his success since starting his own business in 2000. He explains that most people and organizations operate under a fundamental mis‑understanding of how the mind creates reality, and that correcting this assumption unlocks performance, resourcefulness, and well‑being. His core business advice centers on recognizing the mind as a hidden variable that, when harnessed, lets businesses “sail with the wind” rather than struggle. He reflects on advice he would give his younger self—shifting focus from external achievements to inner fulfillment. Thurston defines happiness as an innate inner space of well‑being that is often sought in the wrong places, and once recognized, the search dissolves. He recommends Michael Neill’s Inside Out Revolution and highlights the transformative impact of Sydney Banks’ work, noting that a blue‑collar welder’s insight into the mind changed his life. A favorite quote from David Bohm—“Thought creates the world and then says, ‘I didn’t do it’”—illustrates his view that thought constructs reality. The episode closes with his online contact points: LinkedIn, makingchangework.co.uk, and piersthurston.com.
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Alright everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Business Blast Podcast. I'm your host Tyler Wagner. Today I have Piers Thurston with us. He is a quality of mind expert. So welcome to the show, man.
Hi, Tyler.
Pumped to have you on and we'll dive in. The first question I have for you, Piers, is what is the best story from your life that has an underlying valuable message?
Well, when I look back at my life and think what's the most valuable things that I've come across, it's really been whenever I've listened to and taken heed to sort of when I've had a realization about something and actually gone with that. It's helped me survive and thrive. And I can remember when I started working for myself back in 2000, that just came out of nowhere. I just wanted to do that. And likewise, when I think about what to do in my business, It's when I realize stuff, when I go with that, it seems to really serve me. And that's consistent throughout my life. And the more I rely on that, the better it becomes.
And what is the most valuable piece of information we should know that's within your expertise or industry?
Well, this is a, this is a game changer because I work in the area of personal and professional development, change, innovation, and most of industry, and most of society, and most of the world is innocently and invisibly working under an incorrect assumption of how the mind works and how we create our own reality, how we create our own experience. Once people realize that, it has huge implications for not only performance and resourcefulness but also well-being. There's just a few people in my industry who are looking at this now, I've been lucky enough to do it for 6, 7 years, and it's a total game changer because it, it changes how we look at how we need to organize our minds and our lives.
And what is your best piece of overall business advice? So not necessarily industry-specific.
Well, it would be on the same theme in that there's a kind of hidden variable that businesses— well, people in large, but businesses aren't looking at. and that is the role of their mind and the invisible power that's behind that. And once they look at that and explore that, they get to harness a new way of existing, surviving, and thriving, and unlocking potential that not only increases results and performance, but also they get their joy back, they get their ease back. And it's like sailing with the wind behind you rather than rowing.
And if you could give your younger self one piece of advice, what would that be?
Well, I think it would be that for, for quite a while, I, like many people, were kind of focused on getting the right things to happen in my life, in my education, in my career, in my bank balance, in my achievements. And I thought if I did that, I would have fulfillment, happiness, a secure future. And I now look back and realize that that's not where that stuff lives, you know. So I was sort of focusing on the wrong things, and I was lucky enough to realize that sort of 8 years ago myself. But I wish I'd done it before my mid-30s.
And in your opinion, what is the key to happiness?
Well, this is, this is quite simple for me. I mean, it's not easy, but it's quite simple in that all of us, any of us in any moment have a space within us, like a capacity to access a well-being, a connection, a fulfillment, a peace of mind that is what we call happiness that is there. That's just our spiritual right. And innocently, accidentally, a lot of us as we grow up start looking in the wrong place for it. So we start looking to the external world of things. We start looking to our lifestyle and we start looking to our thoughts to psychologically try and get there. And it just doesn't live there. It's hiding in plain sight right under our nose, but we just don't realize that. And once we do, the search for happiness kind of dissolves.
And what is the best book that you've read and what was the number one thing you learned from that?
Well, I think the book that I'd recommend to anyone to read is a book by a guy called Michael Neill, and it's called Inside Out Revolution. However, the book that's most inspired me is the work of a guy called Sydney Banks. The reason it has is because he was a normal guy, a blue-collar worker. He was a welder. He had some realizations about how the mind works. That completely changed what he did in his life. It didn't come from his knowledge and his intelligence and his studies. It just came because he was open and saw something. That's totally inspiring to me.
What is your favorite quote and why?
Well, I've got a couple, but one of them would be from a guy called David Bohm. He was in the '70s, he was a quantum psychologist, a quantum physicist. His quote is, "Thought creates the world and then says, 'I didn't do it.'" Another one that's similar to that. Similar to that along the same theme is that thought is not our reality, yet it's through thought that our realities are created. They're both pointing to the fact that it looks like the world is coming at us, but actually it's the mind creating it and the outside world has no cause or power because it's all the mind. Both of those quotes are pointing to that. Once you see behind those, they can be totally transformative.
Awesome, man. Dude, thank you so much for coming on. We really appreciate it. The last question I have for you before we let you go is where's the best place for people to find you online?
Well, if you Google Piers Thurston, I come up in a few places, but I do a fair bit of stuff on LinkedIn, so you can find me there, Piers Thurston. I've also got a couple of websites. One is makingchangework.co.uk and the other one is piersthurston.com. So Love to connect with anyone who's curious and resonates with anything I've said in this last 5, 6 minutes.
Perfect, man. Thank you again. We really appreciate it.
Thank you. Pleasure.
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