079: How to Turn Pain into Power with Sarah Pendrick

Hi, I'm Natalie Jill, fat loss expert turned high performance coach. When odds are stacked against us, how do we shift and create everything from nothing? How do we level up when we aren't feeling it yet or we've had a big setback? On this podcast, I'll be talking to some of the most inspiring and courageous men and women on this planet who at their worst, learned how to achieve success greater than they ever dreamed possible. Leveling up and creating everything from nothing. Sarah Pendrick may look like the perfect Barbie, but her life and focus on women's empowerment was born from a youth of bullying, betrayal, molestation, even a rape. So much trauma. Sarah today is anything but a victim. She believes life happens for us, not to us. And her pain has truly become her purpose. Join in today and learn exactly how Sarah Pendrick leveled up and created everything from nothing, becoming the founder of Girl Talk Network and a true change maker in the women's empowerment space. Today on Leveling Up, I've got my good friend Sarah Pendrick, and it took me some pleading to get her on the show, and I'm going to tell you why. When you meet Sarah, she. I'm just going to be real. She looks like a Barbie doll. You look at her, she's got the. The perfect skin, the perfect long blonde hair. She looks like a Barbie doll. And what's so interesting is she owns and created one of the largest women's empowerment groups, Girl Talk Network. That's all her. She's super successful at that and helping women break through and be empowered. What's interesting is when you look at her, you would think, well, what does she know about that? Was she just born privileged? Did she have the perfect life? Who is she to teach us? And I was guilty when I first met Sarah of even thinking that and pulling up the judgment around that. But as I got to know her, I realized that she's one of the deepest people I know. She's been through more than most of us have in our life. She's had a crazy amount of stories and experiences. And what's interesting is I didn't know these about her. Many people didn't know these about her because she has overcome so much. And she's truly learned to be that person that's not a victim. She's learned to be that person who operates from a place of things happening for her. So because of that, we hadn't seen a lot of this. So today I'm excited. She's nervous. I had to drag her out here. But I'm Excited to dive into some of these stories and what makes her tick and how this became her calling.

So.

Hey, Sarah, thanks for joining us.

Hi. Are you scared? Are you mad at me? I'm scared. I'm not mad at you. I love you.

Okay. Okay. So. Okay, Sarah, take us back, because I know what I just said probably resonated with you, that women do think this of you when they see you. I mean, what comes up for you first? When. When you hear that? When, like, a woman feels intimidated by you because they see how you look? Like, what. What comes up for you around that?

Um, so I'm actually really excited to be doing this because I. I know this is the first time that I fully have spoken to this topic. I kind of dance around it, and it's very, very important to me. And I. I say, like, oh, I break judgments and stereotypes, but this is a deep wound for me and something that I will constantly be working on my whole life. It's been a journey. Like, it would bring up a lot of pain before. Right now I feel a little emotional because it means so much to me. Like, we all get judged, we all have a story, and it's hurtful, to be honest. Yeah, it held me back.

Yeah.

I choose not to let it hold me back.

Yeah. It's funny, right when we started, before we started recording, what you guys don't know is I said to Sarah when she said, I don't know if I want to share some of these things. And I said, sarah, do you want some feedback? And she said, sure, I think maybe. And I said. I said, sarah, I think what holds you back from a whole nother level is not sharing these things. So I'm excited to talk about some of these today. So I guess, Sarah, take us back. Because what you've created is just so incredible. And what you've done, the impact you've made is so incredible, but that's not always who you were. So, like, take us back to, like, little Sarah. Like, you were a little girl. Like, what. Who were you? Like, who were you initially? Like, how did you become who you are now?

So initially, I mean, I look back at pictures of me and I'm so confident, so, so happy, just, like, waiting, like, loving. Life had this full, like, light inside me, and I know that's who I truly am inside. And I feel that person every day. But along the way, you know, things happen to you that you get scared, you question things, you. It makes you smaller. It makes you. It gets you to be scared to shine your light and so my earliest memory of myself is just having so much light and then along the way that light being taken away and just. It's been an up and down journey throughout my life and something that I still work on. Like I mentioned earlier, from starting at a young age, everything starts from a young age. From the first time that someone tells you something or your first experience with trauma.

So what was your first experience with? Wow, my life's not amazing and everything is not perfect. Like, tell me what happened. Like, where was that first, first thing that, that you looked at that happened to you before you knew that it happened for you?

The very first memory, and I actually remember exploring this in the Tony Robbins event, was being bullied by girls in my neighborhood. I was probably around five or six. And I just remember them making up a story about me and telling my dad and me getting pulled out of my bed in the middle of the night with my dad because I absolutely love him, but him not knowing how to raise a daughter.

Yeah.

And you know, I, we have, I have so much love for my parents, but everyone's just doing that the best that they can. But for me, being pulled out of bed and told that I did something that I didn't do from these two girls that made up a story about me for. They had to be eight or 10. You know, when you're that young, you don't understand it.

Yeah. Yeah.

So my first experience with not having trust.

So because now you're not trusting your dad, you're not trusting the girls. And what did you start believing about yourself?

What I started believing about myself was it was mostly like, who can I trust and what's wrong with me?

Who can I trust?

You.

Yeah.

Do you have done something to deserve that?

And then did that bullying continue?

Yeah. So I. And this is another reason why I'm so passionate about women's empowerment. And the reason that I do what I do is because throughout even high school, I've had a lot of circumstances with bullying amongst women. And again, it's all from a lack of not feeling like you're enough and the society of pinning each other, pinning women against each other.

So why do you think you became this target for bullying? Like looking at it from not making it right or wrong. Obviously bullying is wrong, but not getting out of that conversation. But what do you think it was that these other kids saw about you that made them bully? And why was no one helping with this?

Right. So obviously what I know now is different from what I thought back then. What I was thinking Back then was that there was something wrong with me again. I came into this world very, very bright, very excited, having these things inside me, like intuition wise that I knew I was meant for. And I kept being told like that there's something wrong with me. That's the way I was interpreting it.

Yeah.

And I was getting bullied because there was something wrong with me. I was being too big, I was being too much. And those worries that I kept, you know, that was the way that I interpreted that bull.

Do you think it came from physical appearance? Was it like, did the kids look at you like, oh, she's, she's pretty, so we're going to tear her down? Was it, was it, did you, what, what do you think they were seeing? Or was it that you had more like, do you, do you have anything that you saw that was making you feel that you were a target for this?

So at that age I had no idea it was just interpreting that there was something wrong with me. Looking back on it, I do believe that it had something to do with a lack or something that they saw in me that kind of put them in survival mode that they didn't have something or that I took something from them. I just think when you're young, you don't have those tools to know better and you're just in a survival mode, especially in the generation that I grew up.

So you form this opinion that there's something I need to fix something on me, something's broken on me. I'm not right, I need to fix something now. Did any teachers know about the bullying? Did your parents know? Where were you afraid to talk about it?

I don't think I realized it at that age that it was necessarily bullying. I really, really told myself a story at that age that there was just something wrong with me. And then there was a good amount of time from middle school to college that I became extremely, extremely shy.

I mean, I cannot picture you shy. So that must have been a big twist.

From college on is what I get to work on, is that I get to shine and that I don't get to hide and I this, you know, protection of myself that I became shy and I didn't want to, I didn't want to be too much. I didn't want to tell anyone about what I was doing. I didn't want to have the attention on me, all of those things.

So you didn't want attention on you and you couldn't trust these girls. And then you had some instances you didn't, you were not sure. If you could trust your dad or even your grandfather.

Yeah.

Yeah. So what was that like, not trusting your father or your grandfather?

It was painful. I mean, it was something that I, you know, I went in and out of depression at certain times in my life, not even realizing that it was depression. And I really have this lone wolf thing. So when you ask me, like, did you get help? Did you talk to teachers? Did your parents know? It's like, they really didn't because I didn't share a lot of it. I always put on this, like, I'm going to be. I'm going to be strong. I don't know what's wrong, but I'm not going to show it. And just this huge, like, wall of protection for much of my life.

No. And at some points, your dad and your grandfather actually hurt you in some ways. And what did that have you believing?

So I knew that things were wrong and I. My very powerful self to fight against that. When I would get angry and be like, this isn't right, you know, I don't. Something's off. Like, I knew something, something wasn't right. I knew that the way that, you know, there was some sort of abuse happening, a lot of emotional abuse, again, not. Didn't have the tools.

And is there an example? So because some people don't know really what emotional abuse is, they think if it's not physical, it's not abuse.

Right.

That's an example of what emotional abuse look like.

There's a lot of anger. There's a lot of amazing times in my house, and there was a lot of anger, a lot of reaction. A lot of, you don't get to do that. You don't have to worry about that. You're gonna get married. That doesn't happen to you. I remember one time, my dad, for the first time in my life, someone had told me that I was beautiful. And when you go to your family, you're excited when you learn new things about yourself and you want to tell your parents. So that was my experience. So the first person I wanted to go to was my dad. And I remember him telling me that you're not beautiful. No one in our family is beautiful.

Wow.

Wow. Oh, my gosh, I'm getting emotional now. Of course, I realize, like, when anyone tells you that it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them, it's what their parents did to them and what their parents knew. It's always about them really wanting to protect you. So at the time, I didn't realize that now and that's how I've been able to break through a lot of this is that my dad in his own way wanted to protect me because he didn't want me to think looks really were everything. Now to the little girl.

Yes. And for people hearing that puts you on a, on a spiral of how do I get to be beautiful then like you, you really put this weight on there because you wanted to please your dad, it sounds like.

Yeah. And so now I think I went through all of that too of like if I didn't get certain things or I did then I would weigh it on like looks or that I wasn't this, I wasn't enough of that. So again coming down to not feeling enough and oh my heart's beating right now because it's just everything comes down to that, whatever that we've been told and the things that hold us back and just I spent much of my life very unhappy.

Yeah. So what happened with your, with your grandfather?

So I was, I'm guessing on ages around 10 or 12. I remember exactly where my family was, where we lived and I remember him attempting to convince me that something was normal that I knew in my gut was wrong and he attempted to sexually molest me. I was able to get out of this situation. But being a 10 year, 10 or 12 year old girl and a man, that is one of the only men that I know besides my father, the closest man in my life is another experience with not being able to trust.

Yeah. So here's somebody that you really look into, look up to. He's your grandfather. You're supposed to trust him. You should listen to him. He's the authority figure. And now you are confused, I'm assuming like what just happened.

I remember just knowing at that, you know, just knowing that this wasn't right. Again, if you're taking yourself back to a 10 or 12 year old girl and what we talked about earlier, my first aid at five, my first experience with not being able to trust. Devastating. And it really was a story that I had in my life that I wasn't protected, I couldn't trust. I was all alone. And that's a very big common theme that I had throughout the first.

I was all alone because I would imagine you didn't talk to your parents about this.

You didn't tell them so I did tell my mom at some point and nothing. I don't know what was done about it.

So what did you start believing about your family then? And you.

Somewhere along the line loyalty and trust became very Very important to me to where I was almost searching for it. Like when someone. And that's a whole another phase that brought into high school and college. I would take things very, very personally because for me, I just wanted people to have my back.

Yeah, you were searching for it.

Yeah, I was searching for someone to protect me, to feel safe, to always have my back, to not feel alone. And so when certain things wouldn't work out for me, I would tell myself a story and take it personally again, because I'm not enough. Or insert whatever stories that I've made a lot made up along the way throughout my life.

Yeah. So then you have a boyfriend in college, and you. So I'm assuming he gave you some of that, and then you get disappointed by one of his friends.

Yeah. So one thing, and I don't know why this is, is I always knew what I deserved and what I didn't deserve. I was very clear on what I wanted and what I didn't want. So I wasn't someone that dated a lot. And, you know, I talk to women all the time where it goes the other way, because you're in search. You're in search of a man or someone that you can trust or to get that love that you're not getting. And for me, I was so closed up and bottled up that that stopped me from going out and looking for love. And I was just very, very, like, high expectations. What did serve me was knowing what I want and do not want. So I dated someone in college. I would put him in the do not want category.

Right.

That's another thing where everything ends up happening for you.

Okay.

He was someone that I dated in high school and we went to college. And I'm like, you know, going along the train of what you're supposed to do, because that was the message that I had gotten my whole life. Even though there was something inside me that was saying, this doesn't align with who you are. I didn't have the tools, nor was I going down the path.

Yeah.

So I was dating him again. I think where I got my love a lot was other family members. And then the friend. The. My women friendships that I did have still hadn't been in a relationship that really, really lit me up. I also wasn't necessarily looking for that at the time, but I was dating someone that I thought, okay, this is okay. Like, yeah, in college and I. We were together at his house at a birthday party, and I went to sleep early, and his cousin came in the room and had raped me.

Did you remember waking up during that? Like, what was. And what were you. Did you think. Did you know with him? Did you know what was going on? What was.

So I woke up during it. I. Again, like, the fight or fight mode. Like, I instantly knew and I got up and ran out of the apartment and I didn't tell anyone. So it was a common theme of my life that these things were happen. I knew how to get out of them. And then I would move on. Like.

Like, literally, like, sweep them under the rug. Like, it didn't happen. Almost.

Yeah. I didn't tell a soul until years later, I think.

So not even the boyfriend? Not even the boyfriend. Did you ever see this guy again that did this to you? Like, did he. What was.

I saw him years and years later because he was contacting me. He did everything that he could to contact me. I found out later that he went into an AA program and one of the steps was obviously to get forgiveness.

So did he. Did he, in his head, think he had not done something? Like, when you woke up during this, was there a fight, like, get off me and. Or is it like, almost like he's warped, thinking that, not understanding that he's raping you?

Like, what was almost like he was warped and that he was obviously, you know, justifying himself. And then I left and I pretended for years that it didn't happen, and I did everything.

Got it.

To stay out of the situation. So I didn't see him again.

Got it.

I saw him on campus, like, passing, and of course I would go the other way, but I didn't see him again until some public function. But he had found a way to contact me years and years later and had asked for my forgiveness and told and said that he had been living in fear for years, waiting for me to tell someone and for, like, his whole life to crumble and that he had been. At that point, he was in naa.

How did you feel hearing that from him?

Gosh. So I completely pretended like our bodies, our minds are so strong that I completely swept it under the rug and pretended that it didn't happen for years. And I remember picking up the phone because obviously I had his number blocked. He had no way of getting a hold of me. And somehow I picked up the phone. It was a random number, and my entire body started to shake. Like, I remember being like. And at that time, I was in. I was a psychology major, but I didn't have all the tools that I have now with self development and being very, very aware. Like, I was like, why is my body shaking? I mean, we know why now, but at the time, it was like I had years of holding this in, never talking to anyone about it again, having things in my past, never telling anyone about my grandpa except my mom. And my body was just shaking. I barely remember our conversation. I do know that I forgave him. Then I talked about it publicly for the first time at my first women's event.

You told him you forgave him or you forgave him on your own without telling him?

I told him. Wow.

And then you share and then how. How did it feel sharing that for the first time?

It was empowering. It was. I knew that I was here to also be the permission for women. This is real life.

Yeah.

Many, many, many women have dealt with sexual assault. And when I'm in those rooms and over half of the women are crying because they have had something like that happen to them and they've never shared. And then they share in front of the whole room, it's going from feeling like you're completely alone or this has only happened to you or there's something wrong with you, to realizing that there are so many people that you pass every day that are in your life that this has happened to and it's nothing to do with you. It's not your fault, and there's nothing that you could have done about it. Yeah, you could do things about it.

Now, what would you tell a woman listening to you right now that's. That's hiding this? Because I do believe there's a lot of people that have had this happen to them. You had several situations, yet you know the two that you shared, and they believe that sweeping under the rug or ignoring it is the way to deal with it. Knowing what you know now, what would you want those women to. To take on or to be aware of? Because I do believe it holds women back in so many ways when they do keep it inside.

What I can say is sharing it and sharing your truth is the most empowering experience. And it completely is the ultimate freedom.

Yeah. I love that.

And it lets you step into what you are here for. When you're carrying around a trauma like that, there's so much poison inside you and it's not your fault. And to know the thing that keeps me going and that gives me that permission to do what I do and to share is knowing what it's going to do for someone else. And I was shaking. I remember this so clearly. Being on stage. There were people in the audience that were my best Friends growing up and they had no idea. But the mind is so powerful. You could have trauma like that happen to you and completely push it aside and pretend. And you're not serving anyone, and you're definitely not serving yourself.

Yeah. Because shame is real. And it. Whether it's. We believe it's shameful or like that, we. It puts people in hiding, and it disconnects people to other things. And it does create more. It's the very thing we want to avoid, is that judgment. It creates more judgment because the walls come up and the perfection comes on.

The walls come up, the perfection, the just finding a way to prove yourself right. That person just judged me. That person's judging me because I'm blonde. I'm this, you know. Oh, that's what I already knew. Even doing myself, my vision, anyone, a favor by doing that.

And I want people to know, listening, like, everybody has a story. Like, every single person has a story. And judgment is so dangerous because, like, we do look at people and we automatically form our opinions about them. And there's always a story behind people. And what I want people to know, two things that I want them to hear from this is one, to be really aware of how we ourselves are judging others. Like, because we do it. I do it, you do it. There, we all do it. We judge. And what that means, like, what it would be like to let go of judgment. And two, also know yourself that by sharing, being vulnerable, opening up, connecting, it frees people's judgment of you. So it works both ways. So I think sometimes when we are so scared of being judged, we stay so close, vested, we say, so the brick wall is up. We stay in hiding, we play small. That's the thing alienating us more from people and creating more judgment.

Yeah. And so it's, you know, it's like those triggers or things that happen to you that you can't just throw them out the window. Gonna be there for me. Fear of judgment will always be there. There will be a little voice in my head. But now I get to be in a relationship with that and tell myself the truth. Because I've had all I've had. Those things happen in my life. I'm actually grateful for them because it brought me to where I am today. It's made my vision the strongest thing. Like, everything I do comes from my deep passion and purpose on this planet, which is my vision, which is empowering women. And so I don't just what resists, persists. We've all heard that. I don't throw it out the window. Like I'm going to overcome judgment and I'm never going to care again. Like that's something that I will constantly be working on and that's okay. But I just, I just love to be free.

Yeah.

And for me and you know, people that are listening, I also see a story when people are like, but I haven't had anything like that happen to me. And so they feel like almost that they don't get to share the things.

That are their trauma and trauma's trauma. So whether somebody. If there's no comparison on that. So if you don't have things that happen to you, you have other things that. That happened. Maybe there's no comparison on that. I think it affects us all the same way. Whether it's severe or not severe, however we deal with it, it's still trauma.

Right.

So everybody has those things and by hiding them, I just think it perpetuates this, the shame and this judgment around things.

Yeah. And just like you said, everyone has those things. Trauma is trauma. To be completely honest, the thing that holds me back the most is the judgment and the bullying. That's what I constantly work through to me that keeps me, has kept me in the past from believing myself. Amongst the other things that people could say are bigger traumas. There's no better good, worse. It's all affects us. And no one's story is more important than another.

And what I want everyone to also I keep doing whatever what I want everyone to hear. I want you to hear the whole podcast apparently, because I keep bringing it up. But what's so critical is there's such a pattern here because like we want to avoid the bullying and the bullying and the drama. Right. We want to in the judgment, so we want to avoid it. So we work to be perfect. Like I just gotta be perfect. I gotta look perfect. I gotta be perfect. I gotta do perfect. And then we get judged for that because people assume that we're perfect or whatever. So it just keeps this cycle going. That's what's so crazy. So we're chasing this false thing.

Yeah.

Because there is no perfect.

Yeah. And so many times I do believe that people don't even realize. I didn't realize I was doing that for a long time. So yeah. Awareness and truth. Awareness and truth and freedom can't happen how you are willing to tell your story.

Because Sarah now. So if someone had looked at you and made a comment about the way you look now or not, if they made a look, a comment about how you look old you would have taken that as, I'm not perfect enough. So I got to. I got to get better. Maybe I got to be more perfect or I got to be this. But now I think you view it two different ways. One, that they've got their own trauma they're battling, and two, they don't actually know you. They don't actually know you, and that's where that authenticity and sharing comes in. Because when they do actually know you, that judgment goes away.

Yeah. I don't want to say old Sarah. Before that. Before, you know, I really owned my truth, and I realized that I don't get to hold. Hide my gifts anymore. Like, that's all those things, like, my story, like, put me into hiding. And then I realized, like, I'm not serving my vision. I. I'm not helping anyone else by hiding.

Yes. Yes.

Literally not Sometimes I'm sure you notice it now, and it's something that I get to correct. I won't even say all my accomplishments, because that little voice will be like, oh, no, you're going to be too much. People are going to be rolling their eyes. They're not going to like you because you're too this. So it's a constant thing. But it's like, when I own all of my accomplishments, I'm only changing the freaking wheel.

Yes.

Letting other people do the same.

Yes. Okay, so let's. I want to take a different shift on this right now. Thank you for sharing all that. How did all this translate into what you stand for now? Like, because now you. You have a big vision, and, like, where was Girl Talk Network born from?

So Girl Talk Network, I had it in my soul. When I was younger. I found things that I wrote out. Business plans, notes, journaling that I already knew what I wanted to do, obviously, as my journey was unfolding. And I. And I wanted trust, and I wanted to. I wanted to go out and be the girl that danced and didn't care what people thought. You know, my true self, how I was born into this world. So I had all these journaling this business plan as a teenager that I found a year into creating Girl Talk. I found it, and it was exactly what girl talk was. Mm.

I love that. I love that. Now, how did it. Did you ever imagine it would grow to be this huge women's empowerment concept?

No, I didn't. Okay, so my true, authentic, like, knowing what my gifts are. Yes. My voice in the back of my head, that was like, that's too big. It was funny. Started out as like, this is gonna Be worldwide. We're gonna change the world. Women are gonna be able to be their full selves. Like, that was my instinct. And then the little voice was like, oh, you just need to start in your community. So I'm like, okay, like, Girl Talk will start in my community in Manhattan Beach. It'll be, you know, we'll have, like, a women's event, and it'll be fun community thing. Because it was. But that was about four years ago, so that was still in my. Where I hadn't developed the full tools to completely shine. So it's like, I knew what it was going to be, what I wanted it to be. But again, you know, the stories that hold you back now, I'm like, heck, yes. It's all over the world. Like, as many women that want to be involved, like, everyone gets to feel like this. That's where I'm at now. But again, it's the tools and fighting for it and the awareness. And the more that you speak your truth, the more that you will have the courage to think the thoughts that are really you.

I love that. I love that. Okay, so now many of you listening. So one of the reasons I wanted to introduce Sarah to my audience here and share her story is. Well, there's a lot of reasons, but one is, I think there's a lot of women out there that are still hiding their truth and feeling that they have to keep this hidden. And I'm hoping this helped open that up for you. But also to really take on this look of how we judge others because we really never know their whole truth. And I just love this whole concept behind girl talk and women's empowerment. And I really feel that you stand for what that really means. And it's funny because someone would have looked at you before they know your story and maybe said, well, what does she know about that? But it's super clear that it's not about just being born as privilege. Like, you've been through your own share of trauma, too, and you've really turned that pain into purpose.

Yeah, exactly. The one thing that I love also that you mentioned that is I used to get the. I got that feedback when I was young. I told you this before. Some people would come up to me and be like, hey, when I saw you walk on the stage, I knew who you were, but I didn't. I'd never heard you speak before. And I was kind of like, what does she have to say? Yeah, so sorry for thinking that. And that used to pain me. I would leave events, and I would stick on. I would hold on to that story. But I'm like, yes, that's amazing.

Like, I love that.

Yeah, that's. I love hearing that. Because that's what I'm here for. I'm here for us to Judgment.

Yes. Oh, I love this, Sarah. Okay, I have another question for you. Um, this is a question I ask all guests. Um, if somebody is listening right now, and they're in their own personal rock bottom, so they're dealing with their own personal struggle, maybe their business is failing, maybe they have a breakup, anything that's their own personal struggle that they're going through right now. Their own rock bottom. And if you were to give them three pieces of advice on how they can start shifting and leveling up their life, what would you tell them?

So first, anything that's going on in your life right now, you are responsible for. And I think a lot of people don't want to face that reality.

Explain what you mean by that. So we.

We could. And I've been there before. We could tend to blame. Well, I hired an assistant that I couldn't trust, and she didn't get this done. And whatever your rock bottom is, you have a responsibility. So first, accept that. Have compassion with yourself. Find out what are the steps that have happened that I've been responsible for to put me in the place that I am today. Responsibility is everything. And once that you own that responsibility, it's in your control more. Because if you just blame it on other people, you're never going to take control of your rock bottom and get out of it.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So be responsible. So responsible.

Own. Own where you're at. Own your rock bottom and believe that anything is possible. For me, something. I Learned this from Dr. Joe Getting out of bed. Most people, many of us, have a thought of what do we have to do today? Or a worry from yesterday. So I've trained my brain. When I wake up in the morning, and if I'm, like, in a big launch or I have, you know, you're up leveling, so you're having that imposter syndrome. Like, that's what my brain will go to. Because our human. That's how we're designed.

Yeah.

Shift it to something positive and something that's going on in the present.

Oh, I love that.

It's a simple, simple thing. You can't be like, oh, my God, I thought. I thought like that again. I had a negative thought. I'm just doomed. Like, that's how. That's how we're made. Yeah, you Just wake up, you might have your worry and you bring it back to the present and you make it a positive thought.

And that's so responsibility. Being present, bringing back to the present spot. And then do you have a third.

What you believe you become. So declaring, I am not kidding. Every time I declare something, it literally happens, like if not the next day that week, so you're in your rock bottom, start getting very specific about what you want to happen.

I love that. Okay. This is so good. So powerful. Sarah, thank you for sharing where I want to know where people can find you. And then I also want you to share just a quick little bit on why we decided to partner on this upcoming Women's empowerment VIP weekends.

Yeah. So they can find me on Instagram. I love connecting with everyone on Instagram. I mean, I love using social media for good. So at GirlTalkNetwork and my website, GirlTalkNetwork.org you can find me.

Yeah. And then Sarah and I are, we have decided to create. Many of the listeners know that I've done some VIP weekends in the past and Sarah and I have decided to move forward partnering on them. And hopefully after listening to her, you'll understand why I felt so passionately about bringing her in to having these, these VIP weekends where we help five to 10 women, completely empower them to level up their lives, step into the best version of themselves, let go of the stories that they've been holding on to and start truly like aging in reverse and leveling up their lives. And that's what we are now jointly doing together. And if you're interested in one of these, we have one coming up very soon. You can apply@natalie jillapply.com and I'll put that in the show notes. Thank you so much, Sarah.

Oh my gosh, I'm so excited for our VIP weekend and thanks for having me on. I mean, it's next level. Like you and I both have the mindset of anything is possible. It's not too late, it's not too soon. So freaking excited to come together with you and these amazing women. Like, I can't wait.

I know. Thank you so much, Sarah. Thanks for leveling up with us today. Please share this episode if you found it helpful so others can join in. And don't forget to hit that subscribe so you don't miss out on future shows. And if you would leave me a five star review. I appreciate those so much. I read all of them and it's how I know that I'm giving you information that you find valuable and come interact with me over on Instagram at Natalie Jill Fit. I read all the direct messages and comments over there. Make it a great day. Creating everything from nothing.