Organizing Your Day For Maximum Productivity with Sandi Glandt

Hi, I'm Natalie Jill, fat loss expert turned lifestyle and high performance coach. Welcome to Listen up the podcast. On this podcast, I do what I do best. Taking complicated information that is relevant to us now and breaking it down simply with actionable steps you can implement to level up your life. I also regularly interview some of the most inspiring and courageous men and women on the planet who at their worst learned how to achieve success greater than anything they ever dreamed possible. Creating everything from nothing. If you are new here, I encourage you to go back and listen from episode one when this podcast was previously called Leveling up for the Full Transformative Experience. Today, I'm listening up. I've got my friend Sandy Glant. Now, she's a high performance productivity coach and her tips are life changing. Life changing for your business, for your life, just all around. She's misorganization when it comes to productivity. And to top that off, she is a mom of not even a toddler, a baby and a toddler. So as I'm recording this with her, she's got a ten month old and a three and a half year old. She got her hands full all the way around as I can see her on the screen right now, which many of you are listening audio. You can't. She's got all these organized calendars in the background for each month. She's hyper organized. Sandy, thank you so much for being here today.

Yay. I'm so excited to be here with you. Thanks for having me.

So, Sandy, I know your life was not always this crazy organized. At one point it was probably chaos and I'm hoping at least so we can all feel normal here. Take us back to like what it was like before you figured all this out.

Yeah. You know, so growing up I had. My parents are entrepreneurs. My mom was working, she was running the house. And you know, growing up, my life was super unorganized. There was no calendars, there was no planners, color coordination. Like, it was very chaotic. I mean, when I say I was like the last kid to get picked up from gymnastics and dance class, I was literally like my mom was always running late to pick us up. And I think a lot of that stemmed from the disorganization. And I think that not by her own fault, she was never, she never saw that. Right. So a lot of times the things that we see growing up, they either change who we are because we decide to change them, or we don't break that chain because we just don't have enough of the resources. And I think for her, she was just in survival mode, trying to raise three kids and run a home and my dad was traveling all the time. So for me, I grew up the exact opposite of what I do right now, which is, you know, when I grew up, there was not the schedules and the calendars and it was just a very chaotic place. And I just remember as a child feeling very overwhelmed in that space, like, you know, always running behind to things, always again, being the last kid picked up. So for me, it was something that I always. I wasn't sure what that missing piece was until I got a little bit older. But growing up, it was something that I knew that it just made me feel uneasy. And then as I got older, I started implementing and learning and processing, like, what can I do to implement this into my life so I can actually maximize all the things that I'm doing in all the areas.

So for people listening, I feel like people fall into two camps. Either they can completely relate to that chaos and there's just never enough time and feeling organized, or they might go into hyperdrive the other way where they're trying to over control things and there's no ver. No flexibility. Do you find that too, that there's these two extremes with people typically?

Yeah, I think so. And like I was saying, I think it comes from what you saw growing up and kind of how that made you feel. Because even for me, as organized as I am with the calendars and the schedules, I try and walk that fine line of being fluid within the organization. Right. So not just, you know, we're super attached to, this is at 6 o', clock, this is at 7 o', clock, and on and on throughout the day, knowing what you have to do, but being flexible because, you know, I know a lot of your listeners are moms. And as moms and wives and business owners, there's always something that's going to derail us and throw us off course or schedule. So I think within the organization side of things, there is also that balance of let's have the organization, but let's also know that we have to be flexible with that as well.

Can you talk about. Can you go back to a little bit about being. When you said you were a kid and your mom was always late to pick up and you noticed a disorganization, what did that tell you as a kid and how'd that make you feel? And this is important. I'm asking this because there's a lot of moms out there listening right now that can relate, or parents in general, Dads moms and they made this their normal life. And I want them to hear what that kind of creates in their family structure and their kids.

Yeah. You know, for me, I just always remember feeling uneasy. I just remember always feeling myself overwhelmed and there was like anxiety that came from that. Um, so I think that, you know, if I were to look back and if I could even talk to my mom, you know, and give her that insight for the child. Right. Like there's so much security that comes from the child kind of knowing like what's coming next and schedules and within that organization. So I think for any of the moms that are out there that are struggling with this right now, you don't have to go hyper to one side of this, right. With like over organizing and over scheduling. Like just little things that you can implement day to day that will help not just you, but the home and your child feel that sense of security within the home will make a world of a difference. And it's just a few little things that you can do. Like, you know, every night having dinner or bath time at a certain time, kind of having that wind down routine a lot of people have. Well, what are my morning routines? That's great. But a lot of people neglect the evening routine. So I think if you can implement that with kids, it's so easy. Most of you are doing it now with, you know, showers and, or bath time and the book reading and whatever that is. So really making that something that's structured for the kids is something that you easily are probably already doing and that you can implement that. That'll really be a great structure for everyone in the home.

Okay. I have so many questions about like actual tips and things that people can do and I'm about to get into that. But I did have another question before that. So before you sort of found your way with organization and structure, I know you were this, you were creating chaos initially first, like you mentioned to me earlier, before we started recording that when you were in college, you were working three bar, three jobs at one time. All very different. She said she was bartending, nannying, she had school. All these different things happening. You were headed down that path. What interrupted you or what was the first thing that started to change you and wake you up to like, there's a better way on this. Yeah.

So you know, my, as I mentioned, my dad, my grandfather, they're all entrepreneurs.

So.

So from the time I was little, I would always hear, create your own destiny. You are the one that's in control of what you're doing and where you're going. So for me, it was always, if there's something that isn't in alignment with me or if there's something that's going on, I am in control. I am steering my own ship. And that was always playing in the background. Like, that was always a matter of what was going on. It was, I'm in control. I need to be the creator of my own destiny. So going through that process of being in college, going to school full time, bartending, nannying, I was working at a radio station. I mean, all of this going on at the same time, it was something for me that I was like, you know what? I know there's a bigger play here, but what is it? And then even out of college, I started my own. I was doing event planning. So even in this space of time management and all of those things, I was doing that right out of the gate of college of, again, being the creator of my own destiny and the bigger play. I never knew exactly what it was, but I always knew I was in control. So anything I would do, any decision I would make, I would say, ok, if this is something that I am in control of, where is it going? What am I doing? And that to me, again, no matter what I was actually doing, it was always knowing that I was in control. And I think if we can all adapt that mentality, it is just, it is such a great way for you to embrace where you're going and being in the thing that you're in versus trying to feel like you're stuck.

Yeah, that's great.

That's great.

Okay, so take us through some steps and some method because no matter where anyone is in their life, I know it's your belief and promise that people can unpack this and create structure to change everything. So can you help us? Like, when you start working with a client, what's the first thing you do with them? Like, where do you start with people?

Yeah, so the first thing is I take a look at the big picture, right? So I want to know, like, what do you have going on? What do you have going in your business? What do you have going on in your personal life? Do you even have a second for yourself? Right? Because like, as moms, most of us, most moms feel guilty taking a minute for themselves, right? Like they'll go use the bathroom and the kids right next to them with the iPad. Or they feel guilty going for a workout, you know, because they think that it's taking time away from their kids. When in reality Is like, we are the machine. We're the thing that if as a mom, as the business owner, as the partner, the wife, if you're not fulfilled. And I know you know this Natalie, you know, how do we fill anyone else's cup if ours is not full? So for me, I take a look at the big picture and I say, where does she feel overwhelmed? Because I believe you get to have it all in every area. Like, I don't believe that, you know, if business go is being is amazing and running at full speed, that you have to feel neglect in these other areas. So I look at the big picture and I, and I say to them, like, what do you want? Because at the end of the day, if you're operating your life and you don't have what you want in place, it's impossible to set goals and targets.

So good as you said that that's. That my literally my very first step when it comes to fat loss or coaching as well with people is. And it sounds so basic, but most people, when you say, what do you want? They don't know. They'll say, I want to be happy if it gives a very general answer or they tell you what they don't want. So I find with my clients, I have to stay in that, what do you want for a while to get in that vision? Do you see that same thing? That it's hard to even get people to figure out what they want?

Yeah. Most people never identify it. Most people have no idea. They're like, I want an hour in my day. Or they can't even break it down to a level that they're like, I've never even thought about it because they're so consumed with what is going on and they don't even have the time to stop and say, well, I never did consider what I actually wanted. You know, excuse me, is it something in business? Is it personal? Like, what is the thing that we're going after? Because we set targets accordingly to the goal that we go after. And if we don't know that and we don't identify, it's impossible to get there.

So any tips for the person listening? That's like, okay, I hear you and I don't know what I want on how they can get to that place of figuring that out.

Yeah. So the first thing is after you identify, then we work backwards. So you would think like, okay, well, what are my. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 step process. We actually work backwards from what the goal is. The goal is the main thing right from there, then we can set the targets. So let's say in this case here, it would be more time or they want to lose weight or carve out an hour more for themselves during the day. Right. So if that's the goal, how do we backtrack and actually set the proper targets? Because a lot of people, this is another thing where they go wrong. They'll have the goal, but the proper targets aren't set. So they'll get off track and they'll say, oh my gosh, how was I not able to eat healthy or run that take time to work out or set proper time management. Well, again, if the targets aren't set correctly, they're going to set themselves up for failure.

So this comes into the whole, what do you want? If they're like, I don't know what I want and they don't know what that is, you're going to, I'm assuming, just have them pick something like, okay, well you initially in our conversation said that you, you wish you had more time. So let's start with that. Am I hearing you correctly? Like, you'll pick one thing so you have a target to focus on and then we're going to start reverse engineering it and breaking it down.

Right? Exactly. And I think also with that process too, you know, you want to think big, but at the same time, you don't want to set yourself up for failure. You don't want to say, I have all these goals and you try and go all in at once for all of them and then you sabotage them all.

Got it? Okay. And I love that because I'm, I do this with women all the time. They'll have like five goals. I'm like, no, let's just pick one. Doesn't mean you can't work towards them. But we've got to focus on one thing or we're spread too thin not making anything happen. So once they know their goal and that you identify it, do you have a method that you'll walk people through that people listening can start to apply, or is it really like super custom for each person or are there general buckets that people can follow?

So it is a custom process, but it's the same. It's a custom process, but the method behind it you can apply to anything. Right. So the first thing that I want to say is like, you need to start creating small wins for yourself in that area. Because what that does for you is mentally you start to see the progress. Right. Again, doesn't matter what it is. Personal relationships, time management, health and Wellness. If you can start to see, you may not be able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, but if you can start to see a little shimmering sign that there's some progress there, you know you're on your way to whatever that goal is.

Give us an example of like a small win that people aren't thinking as a small win.

Yeah. So let's go off. We're talking a lot about health and wellness. Right. So a lot of people say, oh, my God, the scale, like, if the scale doesn't move like that, I'm not making progress. Well, maybe you, maybe you could chase your kids around in the park and you weren't able to do that before. Maybe it's a non scale victory and you're drinking more water, eating more greens in time management. Maybe you're like, wow, I actually hit the three targets I set for myself today. When, when the week before you were scattered and felt all over the place.

That's so good. I love that advice because I do see that hugely in weight loss is people focus on what's not working or what's wrong or how far they have to go versus, like, focusing on those steps along the way that you're actually creating, like, oh, you drank more water today. Oh, you did this. Oh, you stayed committed. Whatever it is, what we focus on, I believe expands even more.

Absolutely. And that's why that's such a big part of the process. Because, you know, you don't want to look at again what you said, what's not working, because you're just sabotaging yourself. If you can look at. I had a little bit of progress here. It's one small step at a time. That's how we create the momentum to get to those big wins. But if you keep beating yourself up, I mean, women are great at that. Right. If we beat ourselves up for the things that aren't working, that's not going to get us anywhere. If we focus on the small little victories that we have, that's what creates that snowball effect of those big wins.

Okay, speaking to the mom aspect for a minute, because I know you're right there right now. So if you're talking to the mothers that are buried in that, can you talk us through a few things that you've done to create structure there? Because clearly you're working, you have a successful business, and you're raising two little kids at the same time. How do you, how do you navigate that?

Yeah. So the first thing I want to say is, you know, mom, life Is super unpredictable. You know this, I know this. The mom listening, I know she can resonate with this. So the one thing that I do is I set three targets for myself every day. It's not at a set time. It's not, you know, there's not a specific, you know, I have to get X target done at this time. It's these three things need to get done by the end of the day. Because if we were to, you know, let's say I have this appointment at 10 o', clock, this appointment at noon, this appointment at 1. You're really. Now, some things are flexible. Other things, right? Like. Like appointments, you know, they're. They're set, but we want to set ourselves up again for success. And we want to make sure that if it can't get done at 10 o' clock because someone's got to go to a doctor's appointment or the dog's got to go to a vet, you know, whatever comes up that you don't beat yourself up there. So what I do is I set three targets for myself every single day. And these are the money moves. These are the things that move me forward. These are the things that. And now these also, by the way, are not just in business. This is personal. This is business. This could be for myself personally. So I'll give you an example. Some of my targets that I'll write out would be like, work out today, do the podcast interview, send out the newsletter. Like, what are the things that are very strategically moving me forward? And I think for a lot of the moms that are listening, this is something that you can do today. This is something that you can implement today. I do this the day before. So what I do is before I shut my work day down, I write down the three things I need to do for the next day. You can do it before bed. And then either way, three things, they go on the schedule for the next day, and that's what you focus on tomorrow. This also helps you get more sleep because you're not worried. What do I got to do tomorrow? What's rattling on in my brain? You can shut it down, you know what's going on, and really set yourself up for the next day.

Okay, that's great. Talk to me about those calendars behind you, because you guys can't see if you're not on the video part. But she's got literally like four big calendars with different months. It's making me want to up my calendar game. I just have a plain whiteboard over here. Tell me what that's about and how you use that.

Yeah. So like I was talking about before, you know, look, kind of working backwards, what I do is I map out my strategy, what I'm doing in a quarterly aspect. So I look and I say, okay, like, we're going to be going into Q3, right. So what am I focusing on? Like, what am I going after? What are the big, exciting, juicy goals that I have? And then what I do is I write out what I want to do. What's the vision? Where is the business going? Because if you run your own business or if you're running the home, you need to. Again, going back to that. I'm the captain of my own ship. I'm the creator of my own destiny. I need to know what I'm doing. Because everyone around me, whether it's an assistant, whether it's someone that's helping me with the kids, whether it's my husband, like, I need to be the one steering the ship so I can make sure everyone's going in the right direction. So the calendars, again, whether it's personal or business, I'm writing out big picture, thinking ahead. What's coming up in June, July, August, and then I kind of backtrack from there. What's the strategy to implement to make sure those things happen?

So good. So good. Okay, give us sort of your best practices now. Like, if you were going to. You have five minutes for someone and you're just going to run down, like, and they're thinking, I'm in chaos. I can't get my goals done. It's not happening. If you were to, like, rattle off, like, some things that you would say, you must do this or what also what you must stop doing. I want to hear both those things.

Yeah, yeah. Well, the first thing I want to say is again, because I know there's a lot of moms listening in, the first thing is you have to give yourself grace. Because I just remember even now, look, my youngest is 10 months old, so he's not even a year old. And I think for all of the moms who have little kids at home and they're trying to run the business and you feel like you're failing because, I don't know. I don't think there's one woman on this planet that's never felt that before. If you're raising babies and in a business, you are not alone. I am telling you right now because I think that it was important for me to hear that as well. Like, when I was in that new Especially the first. Gosh, three months, like three to six months, and you are beating yourself up. I didn't do this thing or I didn't do that in the home, in the business. Just give yourself grace. Because when you are in that period, it is just such a finite period of time where you really want to be with your babies and your kids. And no matter where you are at, I think it is so important to remember that. So that's the first thing. The second thing would be, is setting boundaries. Like, you have to have your boundaries in place. If you don't have boundaries, then anything that comes at you, you're willing to say yes to. You're willing to say, okay, well, I'll do this. And Natalie, I know you're amazing at this because you know, like, what you have going on, you know what you have going on, what you're going to. What's a hell yes and what's a hell no? Right.

But it took me a long time to get there because it used to drive on. And I'm sure you've worked with clients on this. I used to be guided by emotions, so. Oh, that sounds fun. Or I should have to say yes or they're going to be disappointed if I don't. So it took some unwinding to not let emotions dictate that and instead know my quarterly goals, my plan for not just business, but my life. Like, what's the priority? And then is something a heck yes or am I falling into something else?

Exactly. And then with that, also your non negotiables, like, what are the things that you're willing that you know are going to bring you to that goal, bring you closer to that goal. And then what do you know that you're like, I am not willing to compromise on this because it's either integrity or it's either the goal or the family. Like, when you say yes to something over here, you're saying no to something over there. So really having that in alignment. And you know, I go over this with my husband all the time. Like, I know what his non negotiables are and he knows mine. They don't have to be the same, by the way. Like, if my, you know, my husband runs on all cylinders all day long, he's in a very high performance job. And for him and for me, our goals are different. We know what each other's goals are and then we have similar goals. But I think that, you know, going back to what are, what are my non negotiables, what are my boundaries really knowing those and then getting on the same page with your partner is important because within running the home and the business, you have to know kind of like who's, who's covering who, you know, like if he's got a business meeting, I'm at home with the kids. There's always, for me, one of my non negotiables is like, I always got to get the kids down every night. Like I, not, not someone else, me. So that means if someone asked me to do an interview or a speaking, you know, event, whatever it is, it's a hard no for me if it's at that time.

Yeah. And I know that's true with you because I was in Miami where she lives from San Diego, visiting, and we were trying to coordinate some of our friends to get together for dinner. And Sandy's number one rule, she's like, I don't care where we go, but I'm putting my son down to bed at 8:30 or 7:30. I can't meet till after 8. So it's, I love that. And I think that's how we've all supported each other with that. All of our friends are like that where they, we all know everyone's non negotiables there.

Absolutely.

Not even like, hey, Natalie's from California, we're going to make an exception. She's stuck on her rules and it serves her.

Yeah. And it's also, I love that you bring that up because having people around you that support you and that, like, I can say hands down, all of the people that I surround myself with, they are so committed to what their goals are and they support each other like everyone is in alignment. So I think that that's very important too, to touch on. Yeah.

So speak into that for a minute, Sandy, because I know, I know there's people listening that are also going, but wait, I don't have that support system. I know I personally didn't always have a support system like that. I'm assuming you did too. Can you speak into that and how do you find that?

Yeah, so I moved down to Miami about seven years ago and I did not have that. When I moved down here. My husband and I were dating and then we got engaged and married. And I didn't have really any girlfriends down here for, I would say the first maybe three, three to four years I moved down here and I remember thinking to myself, there was like this moment where it clicked and I was like, I'm missing something. Like I'm missing. Because I always, I had girlfriends from Home in Philly. And it was like my close set of girlfriends, but I didn't have that once I moved here because I was so into the relationship and it was new. And you guys know how it is when you're first dating someone and you're in that newlywed stage. So there was. There was a time when I was missing that. And I remember thinking to myself, if I want these relationships, if I want this type of. Of girlfriend relationship in my life, I need to be this. Like, I need to show up how I would want someone, how I would want this friend to be. Supportive, encouraging, like, all of these things. Just like you would if you were to write out a list of what you want in a partner. It was the same thing, but with my girlfriends. And it was crazy because as soon as I had that switch in mentality, like, all of a sudden they showed up and I was like, wait a minute. This was crazy because you think about manifestation and all these things, but it was really just for me, identifying what do I want? But I need to be that first before I can ask for it.

That is such great advice. I can't even. That was so perfect how you said that too. You have to be who you want to attract, because we hear that in a relationship with significant other, but we don't hear that with girlfriends. And I will say one of the biggest things I'll hear from women is that they don't feel they have a supportive network. Like they. They feel that they have fake friends or that they are. It's not an even friendship. And what you just said really sums up, I think everyone I'm friends with in my life, that we all had to make that decision that we were going to become that type of person. And that's how you attract others.

Like, yeah, absolutely. And it's amazing how powerful it can be. I mean, Natalie, I know you had something coming up, and it's. It's so funny because we're all on such the same wavelength. Someone's like, send us the link. We'll help share it out. And, like, we're all thinking, but it's like, it goes out and everyone is on board to support.

No, literally, I have my. My.

It's my workshop.

That's this. That's right now. And every one of my girlfriend. I don't think I have a girlfriend that didn't offer to help. Like, didn't. That didn't say, like. It's just. That's how friendship should be. It shouldn't be one upping people. It shouldn't be feeling like you're burdening somebody. Like, I think friend, a true friend, will think about what you need before you have to tell them what you need.

Yeah. And Natalie, I love how you say too, you know, don't ask someone how you can help them. Like, think about what they have going on in their world and how you can support them. And I can say, hands down, all of my girlfriends are like that. And I think it's because again, I had that switch where I was like, I can't just ask for something if I'm not willing to be that, you know, so. So I would say if you don't have this right now, start to think about how you're showing up and then start putting that out there and you'll start attracting it.

So good.

I.

There's nothing that triggers me more than when somebody says, how can I support you? And I know, well, I know that they mean well, the intention is there. But when you ask somebody, how can I support you? Looks like somebody along the way said, that's what you're supposed to ask people. When you ask somebody, how can I support you? You're putting it back on them to figure out how they can support you. But like, so don't ask that, don't ask that. Just figure out, like, ask a different question to figure out.

Or also get to know them, right? Like know what they have going on. Know if they've got a book launch or a podcast or, you know, something coming up then. And it's not hard to find. Right. You go on someone's stories and you'll find out in two seconds. So. So it's very easy to figure it out, but you do have to do a little due diligence on your end.

Yeah, yeah, and I didn't mean like, I know people mean well when they're asking that. It's just one of those, like, they don't. I don't think people realize that's just putting work back on the person you're trying to support. Yeah, you have to figure out because then they have a lot of questions. Well, I don't know, what can I ask? And am I going to have to do it for them? And like, it brings this whole, like this whole weird internal dialogue that we don't need to be having. So, okay, so you gave some things that we have to be doing. And I took a lot of notes here, mapping things out quarterly, giving yourself grace, having boundaries, non negotiables. What do we have to stop doing? Because I know that we're also wasting time doing some things that aren't serving us.

Yes. So the excuses. And it doesn't matter if it's, you know, you give yourself a pass to sleep in once the alarm clock goes off, or, you know, if you know you're supposed to be or not be eating certain things, if you have certain goals, you know, physically or with your wellness, like, stop giving yourself those passes because every time you do that, in your subconscious brain, you know you've done that. Subconsciously and consciously you know that you've done that. So let me just eat the cookie now. Let me, you know, just this one time, I won't, you know, put the kids down to bed. Just this one time. And that becomes a cycle. And when you can say that these are. And again, this is going back to the non negotiables but in a reverse way that you start to give yourself. Every time you do something, you give yourself a check, you give yourself credit for that and you build up the confidence in that area to say, I'm a person who does this or I'm a person who doesn't do this and you start to have again, wins in that area. That's what we want. So when we stop the excuses and stop justifying reasons why we can or we shouldn't do something, then you're going to actually start seeing more progress because you know that you're the type of person who doesn't do that thing or who does every time show up for whatever that thing is that you want to do and it gets you to your goals faster. So I think that just not having those excuses and following through on that is huge because so many people. And another thing I want to add to this too is taking accountability. Right? Like start taking accountability for everything in your life, no matter what it is, no matter what, who started it, finished it, blamed you, whatever. Like show up and take accountability because then you're in control.

Yeah. My dad taught me when I was little, he always said it's no one else's fault. And I used to get bothered by that. But that line has served me so well because if I always look at things through the lens of that, it's no one else's fault. It changes how I show up for things and how it changes the conversation from blame and gossip to like, oh, what? Where could I shift it on that? I mean, and this is with everything, like literally everything I think about what's happened in this last year. And I'm not encouraging having your head in the sand that's not what I'm about to say here, but I feel sometimes we get so caught up in blame and whatever when we can make a different choice ourselves. We can choose to spend our time, our focus or whatever in a different place and then it becomes not about whose fault is it, who do I need to change, fix whatever, who am I fighting with? To where am I? Can I take control and responsibility here?

Absolutely. The whole game changes when you start taking accountability in every area of your life. Relationships, wellness, business. Like, it's such a game changer. And you know, again, a lot of people like to point the finger and place blame. But when you can start to say, how could have I done that better? How could I really be in control of this? Then you know that it's only up to you. And I don't know about you, but I'd rather be in control of everything. And I know I'm someone who does like the control situations, but I. I would like to be the one that is in control of whatever the outcome is, knowing that I get to control whatever, you know, and sometimes it's also our reactions to things. It's not just what's happening, but like, how can I control my reaction to a situation that's huge too? Yeah.

Okay, I have a final question for you and this one is sort of a loaded one, but I really want to get your take on this. Being a productivity coach. Specialist. Social media.

Yeah.

Does that help people? Does it hurt people? And how do you create boundaries?

Okay, so that's. I was just gonna say I think that you have to have boundaries. Like for me, I'll tell you, one of my non negotiables, one of my boundaries with that is when I shut my workday down for the day. I won't go on at from 4 until the kids go down at 8.

So that's why you didn't like my post. I'm just kidding.

But I think that, look, social media is amazing. It's an amazing tool if you use it. Like, I don't want it to use me, I want to use it. So if I get to use it to connect with people, to expand my business, to get my voice and tips and what I know is going to help other people in the world. It's an amazing tool if it's using me and it's consuming my time and taking away. I remember when Clubhouse first came out. I mean, I mean all of us.

Oh yeah.

We got caught up.

I got caught up there, right there with you.

Yes. And you were so Good. Like I can't go on this. These are my non negotiables. So that was amazing. And I think for me, the second day I was on it, I was outside with my son, we were playing soccer in the backyard and I was on clubhouse while I was playing with him and I was like, whoa, timeout, never again. And it took two, it was the second day and I was like, this is my non negotiable because while most of us are like, ok, it's not work, it's work to be on there. You need to be engaging, you need to be listening. So I remember seeing myself on the phone kicking the ball and I was like, oh no, this is not gonna happen again. Because to me he can't, like he can't tell me mommy. I mean, he can tell me get off the phone, but you know what I mean, he's not the one that, like he's suffering, not getting a fully present mom. Like I have always said, my non negotiables are being a fully present wife and mother. And that means they give me the respect in my business when I'm working. In return, I give them the respect when I shut it down and they have 100% of mom, I love that.

You'Re sharing that, Sandy.

It's so important.

And I will share that. My. So my daughter's almost 14 and I did an episode with her earlier this year where we took her phone and she no longer can have any social media, any TikTok, any of that.

Yeah.

And I take responsibility for that because I when she was three and a half and four, I was in building mode, I was building my business and she saw me on my phone all the time and I was that mom kicking the ball and on the phone. And you think that there. It's not going to impact them, they're too young, they're not having the conversation with us yet. It impacts them.

Absolutely.

My daughter now has big stories around it that she was, she's told me, mom, I remember being a kid and feeling lonely. I mean that I. And I remember being with her. But to know they're smart and they know.

Absolutely.

Your attention is getting more to your phone or to whatever else, they pay that price later and it teaches them that that's a normal way to be. And one of the things that drives me crazy when you look at Gen Z is they're always on their phone. We didn't have that growing up, always on their phone. But they're learning that from us.

Yep, absolutely. And for me, you Know, I always look at it like, what? How do I want to show up? Do I want to be the mom that's on the phone or I just give them the iPad? You know, look, he has times when he gets to be on it, but he's at the park, we're in the pool. I'm the mom that's like going down the slide in the ball pit with my kid. Like, that's where I want to be and that's how I want to show up. So I think that in a world where we're so connected and there is so much blessing and opportunity in that, there's gotta be. It's gotta be a way to shut it down and also be grounded, like, be where you are. And I think that that's so important. And for me as a mom, I just always wanted to be present with my kids. Even before I had kids, I knew that's how I wanted to show up. But look, it doesn't. There's times that also, you know, maybe you're in a launch, maybe you're. There's something going on. That's why those boundaries are so important. Because you have to know, like, there are certain times when I'm pushing and within these regulations or this box, this is what I do. And then there's other times when I shut it down and this is when my family connects. This is when it's family time. So go back to those boundaries and those non negotiables to help set the precedence of what you want to create. What do you want? Like we talked about in the beginning of this, what do I want? How do I want to show up as a wife, as a mom, as a woman in business and then create it around that. So good.

This was so good. Sandy, where can people find your book? Tell us about that and where can they find more from you? How can they work with you? All the things.

Yep. So my book is called Slay youy Day. And I actually wrote the book because through all of my coaching and my programs and courses, I wanted to give my clients a toolbox. I wanted to give them tips and trainings. And part of the book is there are journaling prompts in there to write out some of these techniques and the systems that I coach on. So slayer days on Amazon, you can get at Barnes and Noble's and then to connect with me, I'm on, of course, all the platforms, Instagram, Facebook, but just sandyglant is where you can find me. It's Sandy with an I. So Sandy Glant and I'm sure you'll link it here, but I'm active in my DMs of course until 4 o' clock east coast time. Zip and coast.

You gotta messenger before 1.

Yes and then once the kids are down then I get back on it for a little bit. But my hubby and I have that connection time. But again I'm active on there so you can reach out to me at Sandy Glan and I would love to connect with you guys.

Thank you so much Sandy.

Thanks for having me.

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