What 5G and 6G Are Doing to Your Brain (And What a Former T-Mobile VP Is Doing About It)

In midlife, we notice so many different shifts. Not just what happens with our physical bodies, but the energy changes, the sleep disturbances, the mood, the slower recovery. All these changes start affecting us in midlife. But what if there was a way to tap into healing that, changing that, didn't involve working out harder, taking more supplements, pushing ourselves more, and being stricter with our food? Wouldn't that be great? Today's conversation is all about that. We're going to be talking about quantum energy, quantum upgrades specifically. Now, if that are ready sounds a little out there for you, lean in, don't tune out because we're going to go deep on this topic today. And I think you're going to find this absolutely fascinating. I've got Philip here and he is the founder of Quantum Upgrade. I first met Philip when I was looking at products around Leela Quantum. Some of you remember, if you're watching a video, you've seen me wearing these pendants, some of you call them. I have it in gold color and I have it in silver. I also have these blocks around my house that help me with changing energy fields. I know that sounds weird to some of you, but this is what changes and helps me block EMF. I was fascinated by his products, the technology, and most importantly, how I felt around them. So I first had Philip on talking about that, my gosh, a little over a year ago, and I wanted to have him back because he has brought something to us that I could not even comprehend, but this is going to make a difference in a lot of people's lives, and this is Quantum Upgrade. So thanks for being back here, Philip.

Thanks so much for having me on.

So I wanna just rewind a little bit for people that have no idea what I'm talking about when I talk about your first company, Leela, and some of those things. And when I actually met you, I didn't know much about the products other than I liked the way they looked and how I felt around them. Can you give us just a little bit of background on what that was all created for and how that came about?

Leela Quantum Tech developed the technology that can imprint pure natural quantum energy into any object and combine it with specific frequencies and creates physical products that you just showed, for example, but also water bottles and other things that emit a quantum energy field and specific frequencies if we infuse these products with frequencies like these pendants, for example, that contain also specific frequencies. And the idea of these products are that the frequencies and the quantum energy that you then can tap into has a beneficial effect on your biofield and on your physical body. And, with these frequencies, we can really go into specific use cases whether that is helping someone with better sleep or helping with performance like physical performance, running a marathon, you know, doing a tennis practice or whatever it may be, but also, various other frequencies. We have, I think, over 30 different frequencies by now. And yeah, it's, it's about helping people, but not only people, also pets and plants can benefit from this technology. Because everything that has a biofield can leverage the technology and sees positive results, which has been shown in tons of different studies. And yeah, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. It's nothing artificial that we work with. It's the most natural energy that exists.

Help me, um, I'm not very good at explaining this. What I always tell people is I feel different. Like, that's the only way I can explain it. Like, if I— like, for instance, when I wear around my neck, I wear it on a gold chain typically, but I actually got a different one with the softer bands to be able to work out with it because I definitely notice I feel— I literally feel stronger wearing it. It also calms me more. So I tend to be that person that runs with a million thoughts and more anxious. And if I have it on me, I feel calmer. And I've never been able to really answer to anyone why that is. Help me, help me explain that because I, I just go off of my feeling, but I don't know how to explain it.

Well, first of all, kudos to you because I think, you know, the world should be listening to you because it's about time that we get back into feeling because that is the most important thing we can do to feel ourselves and feel how we do and also feel how others do. Most people have completely lost that because they're just totally stuck in their brains and they're just thinking all day long. But that's a huge difference to think and to feel. So because you feel how good you feel, you don't think how good you feel, right? So it's very, very important. So you can do that. So you're ahead of a lot of people out there that can't feel themselves and whoever can't feel themselves, Well, maybe this is the invitation to start getting there again. And I know what I'm talking about because in— I think it was in 2004, that's what happened to me when I realized I had cut myself off my own emotions and feelings, and I had to reclaim that over time. Now, coming back to your question, so you feel better because these products have a beneficial effect on your nervous system and on your energetic well-being. But they have also been proven to have significant positive effects on the human body in regards to the blood, cellular function, and so on. So obviously, you can feel that if you are tuned in enough to actually feel yourself. Someone who can't feel themselves, well, they may have a hard time feeling, but then they need to turn to the actual science, which is placebo-controlled. And Yeah, it's, it's like an invitation to vibrate higher on one level. That is what the quantum energy products do that we provide. And then if it's a specific frequency that's developed, for example, for inner peace, you know, let's call, call that one. Um, then it helps me to get relatively quickly into my inner peace again. Which I always have inside. But when I'm very anxious and stressed, or I'm full of fear or whatever, right, then I contract energetically. And it's as if I shut off this inner peace, and it's then nowhere, and I can't access it. And I don't know what to do. And then I get even more anxious, right? So that frequency is a signal to activate that again within you. It's not like putting that like with a hammer on the head, like now be in inner peace. No, it's a really nice and smooth invitation for your inner peace to come out. That's how it works with also other frequencies. As an example, we have in these capsules there, there are multiple molecular frequencies of minerals and vitamins, for example, included. So they also are information in your field. That your body then can leverage.

I have some actually really interesting stories I just want to share with you, Philip, and for people listening of— because I've had such a hard time logically wrapping my brain around it, but I want to tap a little bit more into the feelings and example. So I was recently at a friend's house and I was staying in her guest room and they had the huge like cable Wi-Fi, whatever that the thing right next to the bed, like on the nightstand next to the bed. And I'm very sensitive. Like I said, I feel things, so EMFs, all that, I really, really feel it. But this was like the only choice and I couldn't unplug their whole cable situation. So I went to sleep, I woke up with a pounding headache and I knew right away it was from that. So I took my travel block and I had that someplace else in her house and I put it between the unit and my bed the next night and I did not have a headache. So that, I know that's very anecdotal. That's not a science study. That's not a triple, you know, that's not this double placebo study. But for me, that was an actual real experience that I felt that. And I thought, how, I can't deny that. I can't deny how I feel with that. The other thing is, you know, my husband, he's extremely practical and logical. Like he only thinks that way. And when I first brought some of these blocks in, he, you know, he thinks I'm crazy. But when he starts seeing the change with me, he's on board with it, and he sees why I need them in certain areas. So you can't deny— I can't deny that feeling or that change.

Yes, that's true. And, you know, these randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies, they have been done by multiple institutes and doctors' offices across the world. So that all exists, that research. So what you're experiencing is really nothing new. It's just great that you do experience it that way. And that's exactly what the technology does because it works on the below subatomic level and it is able to literally harmonize these electromagnetic fields. And it doesn't matter if it's 3G, 4G, 5G, Wi-Fi, even 6G now with our latest generation we can take care of, which has already been rolled out in most towers in the US. So most people just don't know that. And most people, by the way, also don't know that I used to be a vice president at T-Mobile for several years.

I did not know that.

Running 14 countries in Europe, and I was also VP at T-Mobile US. So I do know quite a bit about electromagnetic fields. And yeah, so the solution nowadays is not to tear down 5G towers because we're not going to. Because of many reasons. But we have downsides, right? Especially now that 6G is being rolled out, they're gonna go into the, I think, 50 to 90 gigahertz, which you can't even block with silver clothing anymore. That is something where, I mean, I don't even know how you would block it. Probably you need like silver walls of a foot or 2 feet, which no one could afford. So that's ridiculous. So the only way that we can act in the future and mitigate the negative effects is through technology like ours, where we harmonize these fields so that formerly destructive waveform patterns that hit us as if someone were to hit me in the face, it hurts. But if someone gives me an acupressure on the neck, it's beneficial, right? That is what you can achieve with actual harmonizing technology. And I must say, I know any company could come out and say, well, we have this sticker. And by the way, 95% of those stickers out there don't work at all.

I've seen them.

Yeah, they don't do anything. And, the few that work usually just work a little bit and they only just work in this area off this phone and not 360. Our technology works truly 360 because we live in an EMF soup and we have the science to support it. Again, I think by now we have over 60 research projects, over 40 placebo-controlled trials, that have been done. So that there's quite a lot out there, including some medical breakthroughs. And we'll get into that with the Quantum Upgrade because that's really where the medical breakthrough is happening.

I have a lot of questions about that, but I do want to, before I even get into that, why do you think it's so hard? I know it's not hard for you to comprehend all this, but like, why is it so hard? I'll tell you, my brain has a really hard time comprehending other than how I feel. So why is that? Why is it so complicated for people to understand me included, frequencies and all of this?

I think it's at least two major reasons. One reason is because it's a completely new technology. And if you really think about it, that happens with every new technology. So if you remember, when you first heard about the internet, I'm sure you didn't get it at first, it probably took you quite some time. I remember my first time reading about it, it was about these people surfing in the web. And I had no clue what they were talking about. Once I finally got into it, at some point, I realized, oh my God, what a potential there. And then I saw what email could do. And I saw the potential of email. And I can tell you that was in 1994, I think, when I went back from the US to Germany. And then I was telling people about this and about the potential of email and where I think this is going to go, that every company will use email at some point and probably most individuals will use email. People thought I was nuts. They were like, I mean, why the heck would we do this? We can write letters out. That is how people react to new technologies. They first discredit it and they don't understand it and they don't want anything to do with it. But when you start looking into it, oh, and then there are some benefits and now it's becoming a little bit— and then you can actually use it. Do I need to understand how the internet works in order to use email? No, not at all. You don't need to be an expert than this. So if we went back to the '70s and just told people on the streets what we could do with our smartphones, people would also think we're nuts. They would tell you, no, you can't do that. It's impossible.

And I guess if you went even further back, I mean, at one time people thought that about television or even radio, which is frequency. Like, how does that happen? So that— so I've sort of accepted that. And I know that I'm for life, like, a fan of at least of the hard products of Lila Quantum. I always add more. I have the water bottle. I have so many things because I just know how I feel around them and with them. So let's talk about Quantum Upgrade and cellular energy. Like, where did this concept come from? And, and you all are going to want to lean in here because I got a lot of questions here because I'm trying to understand it fully too, even though I, I have this now and I've activated it. Help us understand what that is, Philip.

So, and by the way, so Quantum Upgrade, uh, already has over 15 placebo-controlled trials on its own with several medical breakthroughs. It's also been published already in medical journals. It's been widely used by world champions and other elite athletes around the world with a rapidly increasing number of people and coaches reaching out to us wanting to use it in the biohacking space. It's taken the biohacking space by storm. Dave Asprey had me on his podcast already 6 times in the last 4 years. He's been using the Quantum Upgrade almost since the beginning. And he's using it not only for himself, himself, but also for his businesses. Ben Greenfield is using it. Luke Storey has been using it. Many have been using it. And why? Because it works. And that's the most important thing. So what it is, it's a system that works via quantum entanglement over distance and can provide anyone with a customized quantum field over distance. It's like you're— you can stream yourself for yourself, your personal quantum field, and then you can have 100% control over it and you can increase the energy level for yourself. You could decrease it and you can book in specific frequencies without having a physical device that you need to hold. You only need a physical device to make these changes like, oh, I want to sleep, I want to put the calm and rest frequency on. Oh no, I'm going to play a tennis match, I'm going to use the Olympic performance frequency. So, pretty much you have like a remote control, which is your phone. That is your remote control or your laptop. And quantum entanglement, for the people out there that are like, oh my God, what's that? It's not even so difficult to find something about quantum entanglement. Go back to 2022 where the Nobel Prize of Physics was awarded for work on quantum entanglement. So it is out there, and yes, it is a new technology, but because it's a new technology, that is the reason why we're like, oh, how can they do it? We can do it, and we can actually do it in 100% of the cases. It works like a Swiss clock, and that's the great thing about it. We can prove it at any time. It works within seconds, like a press of the button. We've been stress tested all over the world, you know, with these studies, because the investigators in these studies they think at first this can't work because they also think, well, this is such a new technology. How could they do this over distance? Right? That's just a common reaction that you get from these investigators and professors sitting in these studies. And everyone completely turns around after that and says it works every freaking time.

Okay, I'm having a little bit of a breakthrough as I'm talking to you because I added it a couple weeks ago. Okay. I, and I called, talked with your team and I like, I didn't know what the heck I was doing, but I, I got it. I turned it up. My husband and I sat here and programmed it all and I forgot about it. Like I, I just forgot about what I set it on. And now I'm realizing I'm usually like falling asleep, like have to go to bed really early every night. And I just realized I've been, it's, I've been up a lot later, not in a bad way, but in a good way. 'Cause like, Usually we like to hang out at night and I hadn't been. And now I'm just, as you're talking, I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that. I wonder if it has to do with that because I know I turned up the energy on all of that. So now I have to go back and look at all of that. So I don't know, I might actually really believe you right now because I'm thinking that did change some things. And I'm thinking about my workouts being stronger lately and I didn't change anything.

Oh, 100%. Yeah, 100%. So, that's what it does. And, I'll get into that. I'll get into the science and what it all does. But, my recommendation definitely is keep looking at the Quantum Upgrade because I make changes probably once a day or so. But, at least once a week, you should probably go in and see what frequency do you want to leverage because you have all these options at your available for you. And it's amazing, right? Because you can, you can pick from different frequencies that help you in different situations of life, right? If you feel angry, for example, then use the gratitude frequency. If you want to play tennis, use the Olympic performance or world champion. For the night, set it on calm and rest and not high energy, but low energy. Otherwise, you're going to be like Ben Greenfield, who cranked it up all the way in his first 3 days of using the Quantum Upgrade, not listening to us.

He cranked it up all the way. I think that's what I did. I'm gonna have to fix it.

Well, if you had an onboarding call with my team, they should have told you that. But that's how Ben Greenfield realized, oh my God, this stuff is freaking real. And then, you know, we told them, you know, just please turn down at night.

No, they did tell me to turn it down. That was not your team's fault. That was me over, you know, trying things.

Thinking 500. You want to have it on 500 at night and not higher. And during the day, you can obviously go higher and test the boosters and all that. But so what does it do? Okay. And I think that's the important part because we're all interested in the practical application. So first of all, it's super easy to use. It's extremely simple to set it up. And then it's, you don't need to be an expert, right? You don't need to have any background knowledge. Like honestly, every 7 or 8-year-old could operate this easily, right? Because it's so simple. Now let's talk about the brain first. And, I only am going to tell you the things it does in your physical body that we can back up with actual science, randomized, blinded, placebo-controlled studies. So, in the brain, within literally immediately, instantly when it's turned on, and that is— there's one caveat there. If you set a booster for 10:00 a.m., for example, it will start between 10:00 and 10:05. But, that's the only reason is because our system updates every 5 minutes. But once our system is updated, then the energy is running. At the moment where the energy is running, in that very second, you can see it in your brain. You can see it literally in your brain. And I'm referencing now the most advanced EEG device on the market worldwide, 256 channels. You can look into your brain and into your limbic system like with an MRI. It sees everything in your brain and it will show you that everything that's linked to stress in your brain when you turn on the Quantum Upgrade reduces significantly by on average roughly 80%. And everything that's linked to your calm and balanced state, for example, the alpha activity in the limbic system, we've been able to increase it by 13x. I repeat, 13x. So we're not talking about some little marginal changes. That you could maybe get from other things. This is absolutely massive. And it is a medical breakthrough, not only because of the results, but also because we're able to do that over distance. So that is what happens with the brain. And by the way, it mitigates the negative effects of electromagnetic fields. So if you use the Quantum Upgrade for yourself, you are covered. If you are then in a plane or you're in an electric car where the exposure is incredibly high, you may want to turn on the so-called brain support frequency, which we developed specifically for the brain. Because, I mean, we have to also play catch-up, right? Because these technologies advance, right? And the electric cars nowadays, they literally fry our limbic system. And now, if we add to the quantum energy that the Quantum Upgrade provides, the specific frequency of the brain support, literally, it can neutralize 100% of those negative effects. And, we've actually, through those studies, we've gone so far to be interviewed by Dr. Drew, Health Uncensored with Dr. Drew. And, they sent a whole team to an institute in Germany where they have such an advanced EEG device. And they have some of the best investigators in Europe in regards to EEG. And they thought, of course, also, yeah, this couldn't work. But you know what happened? The director who went there in person to film it all, he signed up himself and his whole family, his wife and his kids and their home within 10 minutes after seeing what the Quantum Upgrade did. And who got tested live for everyone to see there? That was 2-time boxing world champion Natalie Jill Zimmerman, where they got a baseline read in a room that was completely free of electromagnetic fields. Then, she had an iPhone 16 right next to her ear with a 5G call for 30 minutes. And they measured, you know, everything that was going on in the brain, which is it's going nuts. Literally, you know, you get headaches and stuff like that. It's just not a good thing to do these things. It stresses us, right? And it attacks our limbic system. People don't really know what that means. But in the limbic system, your autonomic nervous system is orchestrated pretty much. So your breath, your heart rate, everything, right? And that's how it stresses you. So what happened then when the Quantum Upgrade was turned on, Silence.

Wow.

The brain was completely de-stressed, as if there was no phone and no 5G, but there was an iPhone 16 with a 5G call all the time. And her heart rate variability improved as well at the same time. They measured that as well. So it's pretty powerful. So that is the brain. And now that you ask questions, and then we can move on to some of these other things.

Yeah, I know. I think I know how you're going to answer this, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Cause I've said it's so hard for so many of us to grasp. Like I can grasp a physical product. Okay. Yes, I have a physical product. I feel different when it's next to me or on me, but it's very hard to grasp something we can't see and how that's working. Cause like you said, you're going online and you're, you're changing your frequencies, but we don't see anything. Help us comprehend that. And why are we, why am I, why am I so stuck on trying to comprehend it and other people? On trying to comprehend that?

Well, I think for you, it's, it's just something that you're trying to do for the audience, right? So that, that I provide even more background for the audience. I want to say though, you know, take it easy, everyone out there. So you, you, everyone lives with Wi-Fi in your home, it's everywhere. And now you're asking the question how it's possible that there is energy somewhere that you can't see.

Good point.

You know, come on, people. It really isn't so far-fetched.

And that analogy alone, I had a feeling you were going to say that, but that it makes sense because we don't understand that and we accept it.

Yeah. And so also, by the way, you know, we're not trying to sell anyone anything. So, you know, if you feel like this is nothing for you, just, you know, don't even bother. We don't even want you on the system. But the people that are open and interested, you know, just go ahead, try it out because you can try it for free. You know, we have this code for you and for your audience. And there's no strings attached. You don't even have to provide a credit card. You can try for 15 days for free. And just see for yourself, feel, but take the time to feel, to maybe play around with the boosters, with the different frequencies and all of that. And just give it a shot. And then see what you notice and report to yourself. Maybe even, I don't know, if you like writing journals, then Write down how you feel before the first day and then just check in with yourself.

Good point.

You will be able to notice a difference.

I like that. Yeah. And it's because you're so confident that this makes such a difference and you know, and you have the studies and the knowledge around it. You're like, okay, I don't have to sell this to anyone. Just go try it for free and you'll decide for yourself and you'll see. You'll notice. That's why I'll—

Exactly. And so, you know, and I must say, you know, of course, you know, with I think every company that has a relatively new technology runs into this, right? That at some point there are people that are just the naysayers and they, you know, so, you know how I deal with those people nowadays?

How?

I take the time to really explain, to walk them through the research and assume that they're really curious. But when I find out they weren't curious, they just They just want to just say, this can't be true, this can't be true. They don't even do any of their research. They don't even want to try it. They just want to talk bad about it. I'm like, okay, I'll bet you $10,000 or any amount you want, much higher, much lower, I don't care. And we'll fly you out to that institute. You get to see with your own eyes what happens there. We'll get it all on camera by a neutral third party and then we'll see. You think anyone, anyone does that? No, they don't. But we have influencers and also some athletes that said, oh, we, we want to see it with our own eyes. Happy to. We're actually doing it. We're, we're facilitating that, that people get to see that with their own eyes. No, it's, it's quite expensive, right? Because this, just this EEG device, I think it's like $200,000, that device, like with all the equipment around it. So it's not like a cheap thing. But it's very transparent. People can actually see it. And again, I'm also right now, if there's anyone out there that's not believing me, come on, I'll bet you.

Yeah, because it sounds like, I mean, this, like you're saying, the studies are there, and it might be beyond some, our understanding. But like you said, the sci— it's not that you just made this up. You literally have the science and the data and the proof that it works. You've done the actual studies. So it's not just what I'm talking about, the feeling or somebody telling you, you literally have the studies that this works.

Yes, exactly.

And so just like with the internet works or yeah, correct.

And so, and so you can, you can see it within the brain within seconds and you can see the effects in the blood within, I would say 3 to 5 minutes. And the studies that were done in that regard also randomized and double-blind, by the way, I think they use 10 or 15 minutes intervals and showed them what it did after these 10 minutes or possibly 15 minutes. And the results are significant.

So like, what are you seeing in blood when you say that? Yeah, what kind of things do you see?

Yeah, we, we saw on average a reversal of stage 1 and stage 2 of blood clotting within minutes. Yes. So, so what does that mean now? So red blood cells, when they clot, you call that blood clotting, right? The so-called money rolls. And you can visualize that with a darkfield microscope. And, it's your actual blood, so it's not fiction. So, you can literally see it. And so, then when these blood cells are clotted, the red blood cells, then you're at risk for stroke, heart disease, heart attack, all these things. And, by the way, with electromagnetic fields, that's already something that tends to happen with electromagnetic fields. Then, your white blood cells tend to get paralyzed. White blood cells are part of the immune system. So our technology has been shown in all cases to increase the motility of white blood cells. And then there were even more studies. They looked at a 6-month study also with a control group and a treated group where they looked at parasitic load, right? And that's where people should be paying attention. So pay attention, everyone, because parasites are one of the biggest issues nowadays that we have to deal with in our lives, and certainly the blood clotting issue too. So if you can solve both of those problems, well, you're definitely in pretty good shape. And they showed an on average 40% reduction in parasitic load over a 6-month period in the experimental group, while— bless you— and while what's important, while at the same time, after 6 months in the control group, the parasitic load increased. So the net effect was actually even greater than the 40%.

Wait, what do you mean? Oh, so in the group—

okay, because they're in the control group that was not exposed to Quantum Upgrade, they had an increase in parasitic load over the same time frame, whereas the treated group that had the Quantum Upgrade on, again, that was randomized and double-blind, had a roughly 40% decrease in parasitic load. And not only that, the institute that ran the study, they looked very thoroughly at the whole environment in the blood, and they were able to show that the Quantum Upgrade really improves the whole environment. And for us, it's very easy to understand why that is, because it's the vibration that increases, and parasites don't thrive in a high vibratory environment. That's pretty much how it works. So that is pretty much the wrap-up and summary in regards to the blood, which is very compelling.

That's okay. So this is coming full circle for me because I remember a few years ago when I was having a specific health challenge before I did gut testing and learned that I actually had parasites, because I actually had them on a GI mapping and found them. This is several years ago. Before I had that, I did this scan. It was a freak— I don't know what it was called. It was like a frequency scan. And on the scan, they showed 3 specific parasites. And I was like, I don't understand this. That doesn't make any sense. How was a frequency scan? And I remember telling my doctor, I had done this frequency scan and she thought I was crazy, right? But then I do this GI mapping later and I actually had those. So I'm assuming like what you're talking about with frequency is kind of related to that, like that frequency is something we're not talking enough about in different areas because if I'm hearing you correctly, it exists. We can tweak frequencies, we can protect, we can change them, but we're not using that science and that technology enough in all areas.

100%. And, you know, to be honest though, there are all kinds of different frequencies that can be used and leveraged. And what you're talking about are probably— that's probably more around Rife frequencies. And with Rife frequencies, you can even target specific, you know, bacteria and get them to disappear, this one specific bacteria strain or things like that. We don't work with Rife frequencies, but that's also an amazing technology that you know, is not widely talked about. Then you have sound frequencies and specific hertz frequencies that have incredible effects, right, on the human body if leveraged correctly. And yeah, so we figured out a way on how really in a completely non-invasive way bring something quite supportive to the human biofield. That's really the mechanism how it works because it acts on the biofield. And then it ripples through into the physical. And just to give a quick overview, maybe because now we've gone, we've gone like from brain to blood, but what else is there, right? Yeah, cellular function. And I'm going to get into that cellular function and cell recovery, wound healing, autonomic nervous system, you know, heart rate variability. For example, we have tremendous success in regards to autism. Which that, that's something really, really exciting that's happening right now behind the scenes. I can't really talk about it yet. I'm inclined to, but there's, there's, you know, at some point when, when that is baked, fully baked, I'll be able to talk about it. And I'll, I'll let you know about it because this is really huge. And yeah, then women's health, for example. So there were 2 studies done with 100 women in regards to fertility issues. And the way that they measure fertility is not by one single marker because there isn't a marker, I'm fertile or I'm not, right? There are a lot of indicators that you look at, like the heart rate variability, stress in your life, anxiety, depression level, fear level, things like that, a lot of emotional things. And interestingly, our technology, specifically the Quantum Upgrade, was shown to have a significant effect on these women. So in this, in these studies with 100 women, they're about to be published, by the way, it was shown, I think, that anxiety and stress levels and fear levels went down by around about 30%, which is quite remarkable, right? Just over a few months. And then if we go into cellular function, that is probably very interesting for people to hear as well, because that was another one of those examples where there was a super top-notch investigator, Dr. Robert Shieve, associate professor at the University of Tulsa. And in the university lab, he ran 8 studies, randomized and double-blind, which is the gold standard. And he ran 3 ATP production studies. So ATP production is the energy production of the mitochondria of the human cells, which you can physically measure. And he showed a 20 to 29% increase in ATP production across these studies. One of studies is also already published. And he, he did not think this could work at first. So of course, what he's trying to do is he sets up these studies in order to, to basically prove it doesn't work, which is great, because that's the, that's kind of what you need, because those are the best studies if they then come out and say, wow, you know, I mean, I tried what I could to disprove this and to debunk this. But it actually works. Now he teaches his students about this, which is quite phenomenal. Yes, it is. And then he moved on to wound healing studies. And that, I think, is really a medical breakthrough that people don't talk about enough, right? Other than Dave Vasseur.

Yeah, talk to me about the wound healing. How does that work?

Yeah, so we asked him after the ATP studies, could you also look into cell recovery and wound healing? He said yes, you can scratch cells with a laser, or you can also do it mechanically. And we can do it again randomized and double-blind with a control group of millions of cells and a treated group with millions of cells. And then, only the treated group gets the Quantum Upgrade exposure, right? By the way, only basic settings. We're only talking basic settings here. So, there's upside even from those. From my personal perspective, there's quite some upside if you increase the settings.

But this is just from you have—

you're in here and you're on it without even modifying, putting Not even a specific frequency. It's literally just basic quantum energy settings of the Quantum Upgrade. And so, he ran 5 of those randomized double-blind studies, each of them statistically significant, and all of them showed a 46% to 100% acceleration in wound healing. And, that is massive of actually human cells. And, the way they do that is, again, these cells get scratched and then damaged. And then, they just look over time when are they healed, right? When they're completely healed again, right? And then, you just take those times. And, all the ones that were having the Quantum Upgrade, they healed so much faster, right? And, I mean—

Okay, this is it. I'm having another aha moment, Philipp. This might be— I know I'm bringing this down to a lot of stories here, but like I said, I started doing this a couple of weeks ago and we were just recently at a golf tournament, my husband and I, and a lot of walking, a lot of walking. And I had the wrong shoes on, of course, but, and I got massive blisters, like really bad blisters. I know this is a little TMI here, but really bad blisters. Well, this was 2, like a couple of days ago and those are gone and healed. And that usually would not be the case with that. So now I'm also thinking, whoa, that's like, did this have something to do with it? Because I have those turned up and on.

Well, yeah, I mean, so it does have something to do with it because you can accelerate recovery with that technology. It's something you can do and it's simple to do. But then also next time if you go for a golf tournament, just remember, now you have the Quantum Upgrade, you can go in before the golf tournament and you, you go to the Olympic performance frequency or the world champion frequency and put that on because that helps you to be really into— in the mode of playing golf.

Well, I wasn't playing. I was a spectator in the wrong shoes walking a lot. But I hear what you're saying. That's good. But I didn't even think about that. But I did notice yesterday, I was like, that's so wild that these are already healed and I can wear shoes and I don't feel anything because that's very fast. And so that makes sense to me. That's interesting. So again, it's an experience I had, but it's proving what you're saying about the studies. And it's funny that you bring up all these studies and people that are skeptics, because I find really with any topic, when someone says, "Let me see the studies," or you can give them all the studies, they don't actually read them. They just want to say that they don't believe something. Because whether— I can think of many times when someone commented on a post or something I shared, "Where's the studies?" It doesn't matter if I give them the studies, it doesn't change that.

Them.

So I think people just say it, they don't really read them.

It's certainly good to provide them because if there's someone that is truly interested in it, then they have the chance to read it. But you're right. I mean, there are some people that just, they can't allow that this happens. And that is actually the second reason that I didn't get to earlier when you had asked that question, right? To why some people just have a hard time with things like frequency and quantum energy, not understanding that. One is because it's new technology, right? I talked about that. The other thing is because we're at core energy and frequency, and that is the most fundamental truth of our own existence. Yet, I would say most people have completely forgotten that. And it is a little bit for some people, especially the ones that are very left-brain oriented. That's a sort of a hard pill to swallow, even though that's just the most basic truth there is, because they feel so uncomfortable with that, because that's for them, and a terrain that they are not comfortable operating in, because they can't think their way through it. Because that, that we're all energy and frequency, there's something much, much bigger than just thinking through something. It's then you need to get into the feeling and realizing who you actually are. Does anyone ever ask the question like, Who am I really? So from my perspective, it's time that people ask that question.

Did you always feel that way or think that way? Was that natural for you or was that something you learned through science and through what you were doing?

And then so I, I learned it. It's a great question because in, and that's why I also have a lot of empathy and sympathy for people that are really just in their brain and they, they can't, that's probably also why we put so much emphasis on science to, to help these people, you know, to, to get on board. But in 2004, that was about the time where I realized finally, I was so cut off my own emotions and feelings. I was very left-brain oriented, you know, I was in big corporate, and I realized I discredited my own intuition completely. And with that, also the intuition in others. And I would have discredited probably our own technology back then. Wow, to be honest. And well, I mean, I would have not been one of those, you know, just say no, but I would, I would have then looked at the signs. And then I would have been like, wow, there's something there. And then I would have figured out how I can, you know, understand all of this better. But I got into meditation, then into yoga, into all these things, to just find this access to my own intuition again. And, you know, I did find that already a long time ago. And so everyone has that and has access to it. But I do know that it can be a little uncomfortable at first and difficult to do, you know, for some people. Yeah, harder for men than for women, to be honest, because women have so much more access to their own intuition usually.

Oh, yeah, it's true. But I still think it's interesting because I absolutely feel that way. But I feel like we are taught to get away from that, right? Like the opposite, like No, don't use your feeling. Don't think that. And I just have never abandoned that because it's just so strong for me. It's so real to me that I can't abandon it. It doesn't matter what somebody tries to logic convince me. It's just how I feel. That's like the example of my husband and I. He is very much left brain and his brain is more like what you were talking about yours was, but he can't deny the changes he sees in me. And so, he's just embraced it. That, okay, my wife is like that and she feels things. And so he just goes with it. Now, if I say we're putting this here, he's like, okay, we got it, we're doing it.

Yeah, which is also, which is great that he does that. And I'll tell you, you know, also from my own experience, this is really something. If we try to solve something just from the brain, we have a limited amount of answers that we can get to. If we can tap into the whole field, You know, we have, we have a billion times more possibilities that we're tapping into, and people don't understand. And it's, it's even more important now in the age of AI because we, we can't compete with our brains with AI. We, we can't. We won't be able to. So people that will stay just in their brains, they're going to be lost because you will be dumb compared to AI. But if you learn to tap into your actual human potential, which means tap into your full consciousness field, that quantum energy field out there, you suddenly win because you have access to infinite creativity that AI does not have any access to. AI is not creative whatsoever. It's actually, it's, it just knows things, right, that it gets fed. And then it just always remembers everything. But our human potential is, is the heart, it's the gut, it's the intuition, it's the field. And that is where people need to go again. And our technology actually helps with that. You know, that is something that I can't prove with science at this point yet. But maybe we will, because we're starting to talk to a few institutes that do a lot of research in this field, including the famous, probably world's leading consciousness research institute in the world. That's the Monroe Institute. And maybe we can get some studies done. We can also talk about that. But, you know, again, it's a subset of people that are even interested in this. Most people are just interested in physical results. So. Wow.

No, this is, this is really fast. I mean, especially with that AI conversation, I don't think I've ever thought about that, but you're right. It doesn't have a consciousness. It doesn't have the energy field. It doesn't have any of this. So it's just data. So we can try as humans to just data, data, data everything. But you're right. It's missing that piece. And that is how we stand out from AI. That is how we still get better. That's how we don't give up. Makes a lot of sense.

And AI can think better than we can, but AI cannot feel. We can feel. So learn to feel again and all these things that, that, that we can do. And that's, it's so special. And you know, what you said is like, we're, we're taught not to feel, we're taught not to like observe energy and all of that. Maybe it is time that we do exactly that.

Yeah, you're right. That's a good point. It's like, it's going back to, it's going back to the basics with that too, just what we innately do. Because I do have so many midlife women listeners, that's my primary audience here, they are navigating some very specific things. Like one of the big ones is sleep. Like they, they don't get enough sleep. They navigate more anxiety, a lot of mood swings, less focus. These are like common complaints. And I think a lot of midlife women, they automatically go to, do I need hormone replacement? Or do I need, It's like the, what's the thing that I need? What do you want them to know about this and help me? And by the way, ladies, this is literally free for you to try. So there is nothing, you have nothing to lose except for all those, those feelings. You can try this, like Philip's saying, completely free. You don't have to even put a credit card in. And you'll just go to, and I'll, I'll put this in the show notes too, but if you go to quantumupgrade.io, just quantumupgrade.io, and you use code Natalie Jill, you will get to do this this for 15 days completely free. So you can go in and play with it. You can be as skeptical as you want and just say, you know what, I'm gonna, I listened, I'm gonna turn the frequencies on, I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna journal and figure out if this is working. What do you want them to know, Philip?

So exactly the points that you mentioned, anxiety and not enough focus, stress level, right? All these things have been shown already scientifically to be significantly reduced by the Quantum Upgrade in women, in actual women. So the brain research shows that too, right? In its own way, it shows that the stress level goes down. It shows that the calm state and balanced state goes up, but also the cognitive function, frankly. So that's something to really play around with. And, you know, we have these different frequencies, but that doesn't mean that it's difficult, right? So It's, you know, I would call the Rife machine probably pretty difficult to use because there's so many different options on how to use it. If you have, I don't know, oh, I've been depressive, you know, lately, what should I do? You know, then they'll come out with an answer for you.

So it's so, as you're talking, I'm thinking, I hear all the time from women, I've, no matter what the symptom, no matter what thing they go, I've tried everything. And I always want to say, you haven't tried everything, because if you tried everything, we would have fixed the problem. Like, literally, there's gazillions of things you could try to fix any one problem, right? But the next complaint I'll typically hear is that, oh, everything's so expensive, or I have to take this pill. So basically what I want y'all to hear is there's no pills to swallow, and this is literally free to try. So you— this is one of those things, what do you have to lose to do this? So just— I know after I'm done with this session today, I'm going to be going in and looking at mine every day now because I just sort of set it and forget it and I think it's working. But now I want to really go in and play with it. But y'all, there's no reason not to try this. You just go to QuantumUpgrade.io. It's literally free to try. Put my name in, Natalie Jill, so you get that access to try. Take advantage of it though, just— and then actually monitor. And if you don't like it, you can cancel it. But just try it.

You don't even have to cancel.

You don't have to cancel.

No, you don't even have to cancel. You just just don't do anything.

Yeah, you don't do anything.

So just run out after 15 days and you're good.

Yeah. And then I want to hear from you all, like, tell me what you're, what you're feeling and thinking, because I, I didn't actually connect those dots until our conversation today fell up that, that, yeah, I— it is working. And now I'm gonna go make sure my daughter and my husband and everybody else are doing it, because it's— it makes sense. It's totally making sense. What do you wish I had asked you that I didn't ask you about this?

Dogs. Because, okay, talk about that. We have dogs, we have cats, and we, we actually— we have program for horses and racehorses. There are some owners of racehorses among the Quantum Upgrade users. So, we have that, cats and dogs. And, there was an interesting study done with 30 dogs in Austria. And, they also had a— of course, it's placebo-controlled, randomized, and double-blind with control group and then treated group. They had 4 different testing methods. Methods. They used live blood analysis, okay, which is darkfield microscopy. They used the traditional Western veterinarian diagnostics by, you know, a veterinarian in Austria. I think it was two ladies with a clinic. Again, it was randomized double-blind, so the pet owners didn't know if their dog was in the Quantum Upgrade or wasn't. They had no clue. The fourth thing was an advanced Decavol method, which in the US is not very well known. It was developed by a medical doctor, Dr. Voll, several decades ago, and it's quite an amazing tool to evaluate the health of your various organs and your overall health, etc. So those 4 different testing methods, and it turned out that the Quantum Upgrade again had significant results in all of the treated dogs across the board. The blood But obviously the blood pictures don't lie, right? You can literally see what I mean. It was absolutely phenomenal. The same thing that happens in humans with, you know, declotting of the blood, parasitic load reduction, things like that, all of that was shown also in the dogs. The stress level, anxiety levels went down, digestion improved. The vets evaluated all of, and they had no clue also who was in the treated group, who wasn't. Yeah, the dog certainly doesn't know what you're doing.

So you're just, you're doing it.

The dog didn't know, exactly. So they evaluated all the dogs in the treated group as improving significantly. There was actually one dog that was just, had such massive improvements.

Wow.

That was almost unbelievable. And then the pet owners, the same thing. They, they would evaluate their dogs as being more happy, having less anxiety and all of these things. More active, right? More energy. And that was only the case for the ones that were in the treated group. And then the same happened with the advanced DECAVOL method. It. So, you know, there is a lot of interesting data out there. So yeah, this is—

I mean, I'm so glad I'm asking you all this because I am a self-proclaimed working on recovering people pleaser, you know. So sometimes I hear topics and I'm like, I don't know if this is good for— like, I judge, like, do I want to share this with my audience? I'll have skeptics. But like, listening to you, I'm like, how could I not share this stuff? Because you've got— it's working. It's helping. It's helpful. You've got the studies. You're sharing over and over what's going on. I know it's working. So I'm working on not gatekeeping stuff because it is important to share this because I think it's very confusing for women. And the more we have resources like this that are just simple, because this is very simple. This is super simple. You just go on and do it and it's working for us. We have nothing to lose, like literally nothing to lose on something like this. I love— I know this must be— I know for you this is all your passion, but I also understand the challenge it must be for you at some points up against skeptics and stuff. But I just acknowledge you for standing in your truth, knowing that you're doing so much good in the world and you're helping so many people, and that you keep innovating and sharing this amazing technology.

Yes, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's growing. It's interesting, you know, the amount of of feedback we get also from top athletes. And, I mean, it's hard to say some names, right? But we, you know, Natalie Zimmermann, 2-time boxing world champion, Nele Roos, 2-time world champion and world record holder in water skiing. You know, there are multiple motocross riders, professional motocross riders that use our technology. We're currently speaking with with 2 top NFL teams. I'm not going to name them, and I'm not going to name any players, but, you know, there are professional soccer players out of Germany that use our technology. And you can find some of those names on our website, but then others we need to be a little bit mindful of, especially when it gets to the club and team level, because they sometimes also for competitive advantage don't want others to know what they're doing.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, this is incredible. Thank you, Phil. This is fascinating. I'm going to be playing with my— I'm going to report back to you too now that I'm really understanding it, because I was already feeling things and now I'm really excited to share this with more. And y'all, if you try it, I hope you do, please let me know. I'm very curious. Tell me your responses, what you're feeling, what you're seeing, what you're looking at. I'm going to be adding Flops, my dog, to this, and my husband today, because I think This is really important. Thank you so much, Philip.

Thank you.