Let's chat and design

All right, we are live. Perfect. All good. Hey, Joshua Jumbo. It's been a while since we talked. I mean, it's been a while since I did streaming pretty consistently. So yeah, it's good. I think, yeah, I was looking at the schedule and at the calendar and I thought it's really been already a week since the last one. And the last one was also just giving it a try. So welcome everybody watching, everybody watching the replay as well. Thank you for watching it. I feel like a lot more people watch the replay because probably schedule and stuff. You have other things to do than watch that. But glad you're watching this anyway, whether it's now or— I mean, it's technically now when you watch it, even if you watch it later. Yeah. But yeah, pretty happy to be here. I realize now, like the last stream and even the video, like the new video is out as well. I hope you're liking it. Let me know in the comments or in the chat. But yeah, like since last stream and the last video, my— the output video that you see right now was really not working well. So I was like, I have to do something about it. I'm not sure if it's the— I don't know if it's called an encoder to turn from the video into the Like from the camera into the computer video webcam, something like that. But I tried to— I bought a new one instead. I think it's because it was too hot and always plugged into the computer. So I bought a new one and it's working now. So that's good. But yeah, I hope everything is going well for everybody watching. And, uh, hopefully this new video encoder is going to work better. And let's see how it goes. Any news on the product design course? I mean, yeah, the— I switched. It's not really a course now, it's more like a workshop ebook, and it is available. It's actually in the description of this livestream. Right, let me check. Uh, yeah, it's in the, the, the link. It's like the Ready to Level Up Your Design Skills, the Product Designer's Toolkit. It's on Gumroad. It's easy. It's pretty much the, the videos that I recorded before just compressed into like an ebook, and I've tried to like add a workshop and refine stuff as well. It's a lot more affordable as well compared to like the course that I had. So I think it's good. You can always let me know. Like, you can— if you buy it, you can let me know if it's good or not. And obviously it's like, how could I say, the benefit also of the ebook compared to like video is that it's not stuck. Like, as soon as I've made like 10, 12 videos of the course, that's it. If I want to add more stuff, I can, but I can— I would have to redo the video, like rescript, re-record, and re-edit the video. To like fix stuff. But now with that ebook and the workshop, I can literally just— any feedback that's valuable and that would make the ebook better, it's just like, okay, let's just implement that. So always happy to get people's feedback and, and learn how it is. Also, pro members like you, uh, they have 20% discount on it, so It's in the community tab or post tab. I'm not sure how it's called, and you can just scroll into the like the members only posts, and you can like see the the little discount code, and there you go. And you could also pay it pay twice, which is pretty cool. Okay, cool, nice. But yeah, and there's a new another post that I've just made for members earlier today. If you're interested, you can just like leave a comment, and I will send you like an invite. Or like a code. But yeah, so yeah, I hope this new like video encoder works well and is nice. Let me know, by the way, if the audio is good. I think the video is good, but the audio, let me know if it's good or not. Am I centered? I mean, that's as far as the arm can go. I have the chat on like the left, so I have to like move a little bit on that. Or maybe it's directional. I'm not sure. But yeah, that's as good as it can get, probably. Okay, cool. Nice. I'm from the web side of design and want to start going deeply into the product, mostly because I do SaaS as a niche. Does it make sense? Yeah, it does make sense. I mean, to be fair, I think you come from like a nice background as well, simply because SaaS is usually a web app. So it's like you still have like some strong foundation compared to like people who come from branding, for example. Now they might have better understanding on like colors and stuff, but like, you know more about everything for web and how to also make it responsive, which I think is like a great plus. So like, really good job on that. But yeah, I hope you guys are doing good. You're having a good Afternoon, morning, evening. I'm not sure, depending on where you are. For me, it's pretty pretty good. Very hot weather though. It's like super super hot. We're getting close to like thirty thirty five degrees. So I had to go to the gym nonetheless. Nice cold shower afterwards. It feels really rewarding. Then a bit of work, a bit of catch up and planning, and then I was like, let's just make a nice little live stream. I'm not sure if it's going to be again like consistent or not. If it's going to be weekly, you can always enjoy the replays on the channel. So I think at least it's convenient for people. Like if you, since I don't post that much, you still get at least some like 1-hour replays here and there. Yeah. Like doing product assets and dashboard, but understand it more deeply. So yeah. Yeah. I think the different like product design to me, there's a lot of like that, like technical quality to it, like how to make like really good web apps. But it's also about strategy, right? It's not so much just about the website or just about the app, just about the dashboard, the assets. It's also about like, how do we improve the user experience? How does it connect to like the revenue of the product? How to increase conversions? How to lower churn? Like that has a lot of play in it. And I think in terms of like, it's a lot easier also to sell that. I don't know if you want to work as an employee or have your own business, but it's a lot easier to sell the outcome when you connect what the client or what the lead wants in desires, like the dream state, and how you can deliver that and how you can connect that with— because the problem is that if you just say it looks nice or it's cool, it's a nice refresh or a redesign, it's hard to say, okay, but how is it going to cost a lot of money? But if you can connect it to like, here is how much you can make, or like, how much do you think that could improve in terms of revenue? Then you can connect it back, say, okay, it's going to be this much money. And you can close the deal a lot faster because they understand the value. It's not you pitching all the deliverables that you can get out of it. Hey, Sofiane, happy to have you on the livestream. It's been a while. Hope you're doing good. I don't know if you saw, Sofiane, there is also some codes I'm giving away for the members. If you're interested, if you've never tried, it's for the LinkedIn Sales Navigator. I saw that on my account, so I was like, let's just share it with the guys and gals. I'm not sure if there are still gals on the— I think I have like 2% women watching the content. Yeah, that's cool. Probably try to get into some agency studio and do freelance on the side. Hope that will work well. Yeah. I would agree with that. I think business is a lot harder than we might think, or people might think. It's really, really tough because you need to manage so many stuff that working for a studio or an agency first, getting some experience, like, I think that's like the most important first step. Making some money, saving up, always nice. Because yeah, freelancing, I think it's less about you being the best as a designer and it's more about you being the best marketer. Funny enough, like I think a lot of people, like when you think about like businesses, for example, or like service providers, a lot of them are not that good, but they're really good at marketing, for example. And so that's really easy to get. I mean, really easy, no, but yeah, they can get a lot more clients. I'm 5 months into design and I worked as an intern in 2 design studios and I'm working with an American studio, but I'm not making a lot of money. Like this month I made only $1,000. Bucks. I mean, it depends where you live. $1,000 depending on where you are is, can be okay or alarming. I never got a client before. What kind of marketing I can do to land my first $2,000 client? You can do a lot of things. We talked about it for a while on the channel. You can make content, you can reach out. I think that's pretty much the only 2 that you can do. You could do ads, but I don't think ads work really well for us. You could reach out, like literally just Go on LinkedIn, go on Twitter, go where companies are, find some like platforms that reference like website companies, agencies even if you want to have more of them, and reach out to them. And you need to like, like pretty much do cold outreach. Like they don't know you, you pretty much don't know them a lot, and it's all about like figuring out the right pitch for them based on what you deliver, what you offer. Now you're only 5 months into it. I would say you could still probably offer free stuff. Something I've realized not so long ago is that you need to usually take a step back if you want to make 2 steps forwards. And so you might lose in the short term in order to make more in the long term. That can be tough because losing more in the short term could mean maybe years, but that's usually what I would do. So if you don't have a lot of experience or portfolio, Working for free might not be a bad idea. It doesn't mean working for free like a slave, but it just means if they need something from you for a week or two, why not try it? It can be your introduction to have them into your connection book or something. And then you can upsell them into like, hey, by the way, I could offer a service for this much money, which might be more than $2,000 per client. Good to see you again as well, Josh. Oh, Joshua, sorry. I've got a question though. Yeah, let me know the question. Uh, doing fine and you? Didn't, didn't see the LinkedIn thing, I'll check. Started using Cloud Code, build my own site, really cool process. Yeah, it is super rewarding, I think, as designers too, like, and whether it's the website or it's a web app or a mobile app, like It's incredible being able to, uh, to be able to just design and then actually make it live and build it. That is so cool. And it's like, it really, like we talked about it in a previous livestream as well, but like we can do with, with Claude or any AI, we can do like 80% of what an engineer would do. And we already know how to kind of instruct the AI. Like I, the new video I made about the design system, like we know already in our head how to build a design system. It's like we need to have the same components, we need to have the same kind of font styles and colors to make sure that it's harmonious and it works throughout the whole flow. So we already know a ton of stuff. It's just now we just talk to the AI about it and we try to do it one step at a time. And it's like incredible. And by the way, talking about this, there was also Framer 3.0 that I saw the launch and I tried to build a website as well. And it's so cool. It's incredible because you can literally do what you just talked about, Sofyan, of I just connect Cloud Code with Framer and I just make the website. It's not sponsored, but it's super cool. So I've done this for the past 2 days. I've been working on that and I can show it actually later on, the little website I've done for— maybe that could be the replacement of my website. I recently made a website for Author Inc., which is owned by Charlie Owen, and making a free homepage redesign to get into the radar. I don't know who they are, but I think you're on the right track. Again, it doesn't— like, free, I think free should be an exchange of something, right? It's, it's— if it's you working for free but your quality for them is not good then the value is not there. So it's always about like you need to trade something. So if you work for free, it's for something very specific, for a specific amount of time, and they have to get some sort of value from it. Because in a way, it's like you want to also build some sort of long-term relationship. I think that's the best thing. It's— do you imagine if you have to find a new client every single time you want to make money versus someone who's already worked with you and who already trusts you and who doesn't need to be sold, it's so much easier. So if you can build those long-term relationships with them, get on the radar and get into their connection books, that can go a really long way. For example, if you're at the start of your career, how would you show you're there alive to share product website shot designs? I would say there is nothing wrong with sharing some stuff, like sharing your ideas and sharing your Like explorations. I know like again, Framer, they have this like community space now. Like that can be a nice little way if you work on websites to just share some little stuff from it. But like again, on LinkedIn, on Twitter, uh, maybe even on YouTube to some extent, like what I do, like the content I make, like the redesign videos I make, you could literally do something like that. Now it takes again more time, depends on like how much value and time you want to spend on that, but Always sharing something is valuable in and of itself, especially nowadays where it's like pretty much free to do that. And it depends on your medium. Like for example, Instagram or TikTok is great for artsy people, but it literally, if you find your edge, if you find the thing that makes you unique and you can capitalize on that to get views, to get impressions, and then to push those into your offer, into your website, into your portfolio. That's good. Now it's all about finding that. Like, that's the struggle for everybody is like, what does it mean? And I don't have the answer for that. Like, it can mean literally anything, any platform, any type of content. It's your job to figure that out. It's your job to just create variations of that. So it's really, it's difficult. Like, again, it's really difficult. That's something sometimes it's better to Have that freelancing business on the side so that you can explore those stuff by yourself without any risk. And once you find the winning condition, if you find the winning formula for yourself, your edge, then it's all in on that. I mean, not like not literally right as soon as it works, but it's like slowly like you replace your job with the with the freelancing revenue. It's really difficult again. That's why not every designer is a multimillionaire. That's why it's really difficult. It takes a lot more work than we think. Hello, Laurentius. Question, I saw you redesigning big apps like Salesforce, etc., and yours is much cleaner and better in my opinion. There are big companies, but why are they not doing better? They should have resources. Well, I think, I mean, I don't know them specifically. I think it's also like a lot of big companies, they are really slow. Like the government, for example, is extremely slow because there are so many people, so many stakeholders, so much time to do anything. Also laziness, right? Like if you want to redesign, you need to redo the whole design system. If you want to redo the whole design system, then you need to have everybody work on that from different departments, different maybe countries even. Then probably you need to— you're going to also maybe lose customers who would prefer the old version. Like Salesforce, for example, might be more into getting more sales reps and like sales team rather than getting designers. If we spend more money, because Salesforce, people who pay for Salesforce are massive companies, they have a ton of budget, they spend a lot of money. Is it better to redesign something or is it better to hire more people selling that stuff to a lot of people? I think that's maybe what they're doing. Now, there might be a time where they will do that, but maybe you can see it from a lot of other big companies besides maybe Airbnb. It takes a lot of like— change is very, very slow. Not many companies are trying stuff because it's scary to try stuff. Like, they can lose a lot of money from it. Like, especially public companies with investors, with billions of dollars, with thousands of employees. Imagine if this redesign goes wrong. It's like— so they prefer to not try anything new or do it like very small, one step at a time. Rather than like pushing something brand new, except like the only reason they would do that is because they're dying. Like Jaguar, the rebrand of Jaguar is probably that. It's like almost like a call for help, which just, it is so bad, we're losing so much money, let's just like go all in on that weird new thing. Hopefully it's going to work. Or like, what's it called? Allbirds, you know, like they were doing sneakers and now they're like a data center, I think. That's the same thing. It's like, we're losing so much money now, let's just pivot into something else. But I agree with you, it would be so cool if it would work. It's like, here is my redesign, do you want it? Yeah, cool, awesome. Although to be fair, the negotiation would be pretty rough. You can imagine a bunch of lawyers from Salesforce on the table and me on the other side, like, okay, here is my price. How do you price that? How do you price a billion-dollar company? I mean, I'm not sure how much they're worth, but it's like, do I charge like 10% of that? That would be pretty cool. But yeah, usually it's tougher. Charlie Owen helped write Atomic Habits. Okay, I see. Charlie loved the site. That's so cool. That's awesome. I mean, the more you can give away to people for free, the more they will— the chances are they will like want to return something in exchange for it if they are compassionate. So that's it. And if what you share is valuable for them, they're at least open to hear you. It doesn't mean they're going to become a client or you're going to sell them something, but at least it's like, okay, you gave me something, what's your pitch? In some sort of way. So doing that, if you have time and if you have nothing to lose, it's honestly a pretty good thing to do. I can send a Framer link. You could tweet at me on like on X. Like there is also my Twitter link in the description. You can just go there. You can like tweet something at me, at me, and and I will check. I will check it out. Hey Charles, when you don't find the fun in design like you used to because it's become monotonous at your job and the pay isn't that great to not bother about it, how would you advise and navigate? Oh, that seems to be a rough patch you're in. To be fair, that's a really interesting— Can't message me or DM me. I mean, just like a public tweet, just like tweet it at me in your tweet and then I should get the notification and have a look. That's actually a great exercise. Like, you can literally just say, hey, I made this website for Charlie Owen and he loved it and that's it. And then you can, yeah. But yeah, like, it happened to me before. The pay was great, but the work was so boring. It's like, I was not happy at all doing that. Now I have to say, it's kind of like part of the job to some extent. No matter what you're going to do, there's going to be a point where the routine is going to be boring. That's kind of like the part of the routine. It's just something you have to do and you do all the time or every day. So like, don't go expecting that there is like a perfect solution for this. I think you have to love the Solving the problem. It's probably for me, like something I've realized also is like I love problem solving for like design projects and in my in maybe it's who I am, but that's why I prefer working for myself and having different projects and different clients because it's really fun and exciting to like it's like traveling. You change location every every two three months and it's just like fresh everything in a job. It's a bit different. You need to think about it more on the granular level, like this project, this sprint is exciting because of this and that. This is where I can shine and problem solve. Now it depends on the culture, depends on the job, the company. If the pay is not good and the company doesn't really want you to be creative, then, or like try to problem solve and pitch new things, it's going to be a bit difficult to, to figure it out, I, I have to say. Something you should do probably is keep like apply for new jobs. Literally just keep doing that. Like improve your portfolio, create cool case studies. Even like working on a website like can be pretty fun. At least for me it was. So like just try that for a while. Just have like a cool solid portfolio, meaning it's clean, it has your name. It's easy to scan. There's not like a whole Harry Potter book to talk about what you did. Have some cool interaction, visuals, maybe even short clips of prototypes you've done and designs. It doesn't have to be real. It can just be literally just your job, what you've done, but the fun part of it that people didn't want. Have 3 case studies and just apply. Because it's not going to work. Like, it's not going to work if you just quit and you don't make any money. So it's like, let's just do that for a while. Try as much as possible, even reach out, like send like some connection invites to recruiters, HR people, like from companies or agencies you would love to work for or with. Be like, this is my portfolio. This is the kind of job I would like to have. This is where I want to see myself in the next 2, 3 years. And just do that. Do that in the evening, do that on the weekend. Take like an hour, something like that. Once you have the portfolio and you know what you want next, then let's just do that for a while. Because what's the point, right? If you're not paid well and it's not fun to, or like not enjoyable, you're not feeling valued, then what's the point? You're literally giving most of your time to a company who doesn't value you, who doesn't pay you enough. That's why I'm very picky about— I'm completely open to working for a company and I've had a few talks in the past few weeks and months with companies, but it's like, I'm going to give away most of my active time where I'm the most creative and energized. It has to be worth it, which hasn't yet been something, but like you need to be also picky as well. Now it's, I know it's difficult to say like be picky in this situation and environment, but that's what I think. And I'm, and that's why I'm saying also like save money if you can, because the more money saved up you have, like the, the lighter you can be in the negotiations and being picky. I love all your recent videos. I'm a mainly full-stack engineer and I learned a lot about design. Thank you for sharing knowledge. Hey, I appreciate that. I'm very happy you've enjoyed it. Especially from an engineer, I feel like from my perspective, engineers, they really enjoy kind of like the, again, like the structure of how it works in terms of the design, not the design itself. So I'm really happy you've found value in the redesign videos. And that's kind of like the goal. And maybe it might be boring to some people. Actually, I can talk about it, about like kind of like the new video I want to make. But like the goal of my kind of boring videos is just to walk you through the strategy process, the thought process of here is the decision making behind why I'm doing those decisions for like the design, the layout, my approach, why I'm changing navigation. It's not going to— like I know from every video I've made, redesign or not, people are going to complain about something. So I'm just doing whatever, whatever is fun. So that's also something cool is that, I mean, I cannot probably talk about it, but like a future sponsor, maybe a potential sponsor could be cool. It's like a design company. That could be nice. We'll see how it goes. But yeah. Oh, I can show that now. How does it work? How do we, how do we How do we live stream in here? So look at that. This is the the website I've done on Framer, and and it's fully like I think mostly coded. I think the contact page is not, but it's so cool. So it's like a super simple website when you think about it. It's just you have your own page with like the this is what I do. You can start your project and go to the contact page. A little Navigation dock, and then you have the gallery or like the grid. Ideally more, but it's like a nice proof of concept. You can you can go around it however you want, and then on hover you can find or look at the design like in full screen. And the one that do have is like CMS based, so it's all into a CMS. And if it finds like this image here is connected. Is connected to a case study, it's going to show the view case study button. And then you have the one that you've— you're familiar with if you've seen my videos and saw my website with the actual case study and the videos there. And I think that's a super smooth website. Like, I'm really— I'm taking like a few days to think about it. Or maybe now the question is like, how does it going to— how is it going to look like? Or how can you make it an experience on mobile, which might be a bit A bit tough, maybe, but I think that's like a super cool, at least for me, like I've always wanted to have like an interactive grid style portfolio. And it was because the Framer folder 3.0 launched, they had like an hackathon. And so it was like in 24 hours you can have a ton of credits and create something cool. Not all of them. I tried to compress the images, but some of them are like a little bit, a little bit ugly, but I think it's fine. I honestly don't think, like I've talked about it before with someone, it's like, I don't think most people care about the little details when you present something. I think it's mostly like a designer or a personal thing of it has to be perfect. But I'm pretty sure like if I showed this image here, Nothing, anything, people would be like, yeah, it's okay. Or like, it's a style. But yeah, that's kind of like the, a really cool, I think a really cool website, portfolio website or agency website. And you can imagine long-term, you could literally just keep adding stuff, keep adding designs. But yeah, I wanted to share with you guys. And yeah, for the new content idea that I had, I was thinking that— I mean, we talked about it in the last stream. I think it's Juxtapose. I don't remember who suggested me to do it, but yeah, it was to make it more entertaining. And so the way she does the videos is you basically just redesign 5, 6 pages or like design elements, like a navigation or how it looks like on specific pages and screens. And then it's like you make the video about the design, the redesign you've done. It's not about the process of redesigning it. It's about breaking down why you've done it. Because when you look at my redesign right now, It's me going through. Okay, I have this screen. I'm not sure what I want to do with it, or like how to redesign it. Let's go through it together, which is not entertaining. It's, I hope, educative, but it's not entertaining. So I'm going to see if changing that into making it entertaining could get more people interested towards the content. Now, something I might still want to do is obviously for the pro members, they're going to still get like the redesigned file, but. Do I do a redesign video? Do I record myself redesigning it nonetheless? Maybe. Because if it doesn't work, or maybe I could do both. Maybe you could have the redesign video and also the entertaining video. Case studies are mostly polished thoughts. I love the raw thoughts and design decisions made in iterations, how to approach exploration variations. Yeah, that's kind of like the goal of the redesign videos in a way that I didn't think about. The first video I've ever made of that is just, it's very basic. It was, I found this random screen online and I'm going to redesign it. And it's literally just me changing the color palette and people are like, oh my God. And so then the longer I've iterated on that, the more I've tried to also add that strategic part of it, not just me designing and thinking in my head, but also trying to articulate the decision-making, which I think is really fun. Talking about who said— oh yeah, Joshua. What Joshua talked about was it's not really fun or exciting to work on projects. For me, the strategy part is the really fun part. And I think with AI, like Sofiane talked about, it's so cool that you can just— it's not about the boring part of I have an idea, I have to design it. Now it's like, I can design it because it's fun and I can iterate and create new things. But also the AI is shortening the time, the boring time that I don't want to do of actually making the box, then writing the title, coming up with copy that I'm not sure about, placeholder copy. That is really, really interesting to unlock the creativity in the strategy part, which in my opinion is the most fun part. And probably the one that you can make the most money on. The presentation of Juxtapose video is fun to watch. I agree. I've watched the, I think the YouTube redesign one. And it's really entertaining and fun to watch. And that's why I try to, I don't know if you watched the video, the recent video I've done, I've did, I did, I've done for the building design system with AI, but I try to add a bit more of that. Fun lightness to it. I don't know if it worked, but that's kind of like what I'm trying to do for the next videos. And so for me, the idea was to find like something that people know. Like for example, I was thinking maybe Paramount because they've done the acquisition recently, or maybe Disney Plus because it's really well known. But I think the— I mean, the problem— it's not really a problem But the redesigns that I do or that I've done are very like unknown apps. Obviously, you know Salesforce, but probably 80%, 90% of normal people don't know Salesforce. So it's harder for them to like, oh, that's an interesting video I want to watch. And that's why when I do the thumbnails and I do the title, there is no mention of it. It's just like, how do I— I'm not even sure how— what's the title? Oh yeah, watch me fix a SaaS design. Very broad, and that can still catch people's attention and interest overall. But that's kind of like the rationale behind it. Whereas if I make one about Disney+, it's just literally, I can just show like the Disney+ logo and people will be like, oh, I know that. That can be interesting to watch. And then it's all about the editing and the presentation of the redesign. Not so much about, hey, I'm going to redesign this screen together. Let's go. But that can be cool. And so it would be— I'm not sure exactly how it would do. Probably like, okay, here's the homepage, then the navigation, and then the player. I don't know if they have a video player, but yeah, that's the big idea that I want to work on, probably. I will think about it, but that could be cool. Pricing could be— I mean, the problem is pricing is nice for me. I think it's interesting, but I guess for most people it's not interesting. I have to think about what would most people enjoy watching? Like they would watch a TV show pretty much, or like a normal YouTube video. They would like to maybe see that. Do people watch Paramount+? I think it's kind of like the same. Netflix was interesting, but it's like August 2024. It's been a while. I mean, that could be the pitch. It's been a long time. But yeah, interesting to, to see how we could do that as well. I'm not quite sure. I have to figure out in the next few days. I'm happy I've already posted the new one. And the new video, I was like, the video feels laggy. You know, there's a little bit of— it doesn't feel smooth like probably this video or like this stream or replay, which is a lot smoother and high quality. The other one felt a little bit jittery. So yeah, I was still like, let's just do it. Let's post it. I don't think most people will notice. And actually nobody. Commented on it. They commented about everything but that, so I think that's okay. And to be fair, I think for it's just my like almost selfish or self-conscious rationale of buying a new encoder just for that. I think most people would not care, but it's still nice. Like even for like lead or client calls, it's nice to. To fix it, maybe Twitch could be an interesting one to resign. There are not a lot of entertainment. Maybe an app. I've never done a mobile app. Could be cool. I mean, it's a different game. I'm not really want to diversify so much. Going back to what's boring, I think. I think like we all, especially maybe creatives. We like all designers or even, you know, engineers. We usually get bored after we try something for so long or we do something for so long and it doesn't work or it doesn't feel as fulfilling or there is no sense of growth. Growth, not gross growth, evolution. And we know our brain will always try to like find the next thing, find the next shiny object that can catch our attention and interest and feel like Something fresh and new. It's like the level one again, where it's easy to level up. It's easy to gain new achievements. And then we reach like that level, I don't know, twenty, and it's becoming boring and repetitive and tough. It's like okay, let's find something else to go back to level one. So like my like a thought that some of you might have and that I might I have had before is should I diversify? Should I should I just like do everything? And the answer is no. I need to stay. I mean, except if I really like love mobile apps and I don't want to do web apps anymore, which is not the case. Now for content, maybe, but that might be a waste a little bit. Have you tried Mobbin's MCP? No, I have not tried that. Where is it? Where can I get that? I guess we'll look into it after it. Is it in the settings or something? But that's pretty much the gist of at least everything I wanted to talk about today. I like the content stuff. You have to install it to your Cloud Code. Okay, I will have to look into it. Let me write it down. I'd like to know how— what, what it does, because I think it's nice if you search for it for like I mean, I don't know if I would get a lot of value from it. Like for me, the way I usually, like the moment I use Mobbin the most is on Mobbin Screens when you want to design something. Like for me, it's like I use it the most when I make the content, like redesign content, or when I work on projects, like the starting foundation of it, and I'm just brainstorming. And it's like I look at like literally every possible app industry category screen elements to come up with like the type of interface I want to make. So I'm I'm not sure. I would I would still give it a try. I'm not sure how it would work. You know, like it's like give me oh yeah, I saw they have like the deep search now. I think it might probably be connected to that. Maybe actually, maybe flows might be cool. But yeah, I need to like, I think it's more like depending on the scenario, the case, use case. Yeah, I think it's a good idea to redesign famous apps and a little bit of design system elements sharing between a few different pages. Redesign you did is almost one page. Yeah, that's kind of like the The problem is that usually my redesign videos, it's already 2, 3 hours long. It's like I just want to redesign this and then we're done. The benefit of making those maybe different redesign videos of the famous apps and more like juxtaposed style would be that I can design 5 different screens or different elements and maybe push it live with AI, that could be super cool. Even if it's local, just going through the actual tool would be super nice. That might be a nerdy thing that most people would not care about. For example, when you look at— literally when you look at Juxtapose videos, it's just like, here is the screen that they have, transition, here is the screen that I have, and here is what I've done. Like it's almost like a slideshow, not to be like offensive or anything, but it doesn't like you don't have to show too much. But at least showing the design system logic behind it and the kind of like how the elements evolve or or are still consistent throughout different pages and flows. That I think is a really valuable piece of of all content education that I cannot and don't share in the. Uh, the reason videos, just because I don't have the time and it just— yeah, like after 2 or 3 hours I'm like, okay, I'm done with this, that's enough for today. Oh, that's cool, they have Duolingo for kids now. And yeah, I wanted to resend the Ditto. Oh yeah, they have Agents now also, Figma. Yeah, I've only tried it once. It's okay. I think it depends. It depends on what you want to work on. Now there are so many agents everywhere. I'm just like, what do I choose? Still, Claude is still great. Oh, did you see that on Claude now they have the design, Claude Design inside of the web app? It doesn't work quite well right now, but I think that's a really cool improvement to have everything on that web app because I've never pretty much used Claude Design. I know we talked about it before. I don't remember. Who, but we talked about like Cloud Design, which was good, but you know uses a lot of credits. I mean, it's crazy the the blocker when I try to like create that that that website on Framer. Like something is like hey, let's you have like hardcoded all of the images and the links. Let's just put that in the in the Framer CMS. It took 80,000 tokens to do that. I'm like, I could have done it myself. But I think it's okay. It's part of evolution as well. We are like the stage one. Do you imagine how it's going to be in like 20, 30 years? Wow. If I still make content at the time, I can clip that moment and be like, there we go. That's what happens. That's also really interesting is the like something I like on Mobin is the fact that you have also have like different countries apps. Like I think there were maybe not now, but there were like Chinese apps before for like the food ordering, and it's really interesting how they design things differently, which might not be the best. It's just like, let's just put everything on the screen. But anyway, I don't know, how do you find— like, it's like when you think about, again, this new type of content for the thumbnail, the thumbnail and the— pretty much the company is the seller. You have to know the company. Like Amazon, actually Amazon could be a good one. Although they've done quite a lot of improvements, I think, in the past few years. And it's talking back to the why Salesforce doesn't do a redesign. Like, I think it's just like Amazon, the amount of work and amount of manpower it takes to like go through a redesign like that. Insane. Like they added the like ask reference feature and it's It reuses pretty much the same components as like the buttons and the chat boxes. So it's just like you add, you take elements from the design system and you repurpose them. But I don't know, it could be cool. They have videos. Oh, they have live streams. Americans. I think UX is the least that will be affected when it comes to design. AI just doesn't understand what works or not. That's true. I think the only way AI would make it work is if you feed it the right knowledge. It's not like it has to be almost handpicked or curated, and you have to really break it down to the very— maybe I should not say that for people to be like, do that, do that. But you need to break it down to the core, just like you build a design system. Like the video I made, is you need to like go super granular on it for it to build the blocks to like scale it up. But then it's like the amount of time it would— imagine the amount of time it would take to like do that for every screen, and you have to fit thousands of designs to it for like any kind of valuable output would be so much time. But actually, the— again, the Framer agent they have now It's actually pretty good. It's kind of like what I said, it's like it takes your design system, it takes the elements that you already have, and it just like repurposes them in a way. And it saves a lot of time. Like if you want, like I have my website had a dark mode and I can just say, okay, based on the tokens and the design system, can you build a light mode? And it worked really well. I mean, that's what you can literally see, uh, on the case studies. Like this is taken exactly from my dark mode. I mean, Tempe here is like three different type of text. That's okay, but just to show like the logic applies well. I think it could be cool to redesign like that homepage. Could be cool to interesting to like give it a try. Otherwise, HelloFresh, is it as known? But that's cool. I'm reassured because it's not as scary as I thought. Not to mention, if you ask it to build something, it will always tweak something and it looks different, meaning it doesn't know why. Yeah. I talked about it also in the video. It's like even if you gave all the details, you bring all the context, it's still going to make some mistakes because like you said, it doesn't understand the logic behind it or the rationale behind it. Even if you explain everything in details, that's why again, like it's taking it step by step is the simplest way to get something that works and that's pretty good. But I don't think I think that I'm wondering, like, I think AI is good for now, is a really good way to bridge the gap almost, rather than to build it from the ground up. It's like, I have the materials and the tools, I have the plan, can you build it? Not just build it, like, again, Turning a dark theme into a light theme is okay because you literally have all the components and just like, I have everything here, can you switch it to that? And with the right context and the right like training, it works. Or like what we talked about, you have the designs, you have the kind of code components and almost code, can you turn it into an actual like live website? That also works because it's like a translation almost. It's like a translator of what you have. It's not like create something from it, which might be tougher. But again, if you give it the right— like, if you— it depends on the goal. It's not like a magical solution that like people think it is, but it's like a really good helper, a time saver in many things. And actually, speaking of the video, I'm really surprised because 2K views. I didn't expect it. Most of my talking videos, a little bit more boring. It doesn't never really perform as well. But yeah, pretty happy with that. But I don't know. Not wow. Seventy four percent are not subscribed watching who watched that video. So it's not even like subscribers. It's Okay, pretty cool. But yeah, so that's kind of like going to be the plan for me this week and next week is going to be figuring out which app I would want to redesign. Maybe Shopify could be interesting. But it has to be, you know, it has to come from one, a good place, not just bashing a company because they're known. And it should also be relevant. It's not just be, it's not just I'm going to change the colors. It should be like a meaningful UI/UX change. Again, I'm thinking Amazon could be a cool one as well to try. We'll see, we'll figure it out. And then I will keep Trying to reach out to leads. I'm still trying to figure that out as well myself, like getting consistent, a consistent flow of leads, not just having to like make content or post something to make it work, but like let's have that routine work out, which is, which is cool. I think it's an interesting challenge, but that's why I'm also, I'm always saying people don't rush into like wanting to have your own business because it sounds cool, but it's really, really difficult. It's a lot more complex than you think. And you will probably have to do a lot more selling and marketing than the actual design deliveries. But to me, it's again, like what we talked about, like we only have one life to live and I want to be as cool and fulfilling as possible. And it's going to be painful and boring for a lot of that time to get the skills required to do that. But I think that's worth it. When I look back at 80, hopefully more, it's like, you know, like it was the right choice to do. Like doing the scary stuff, even if you're bad. Not financial advice. It's not life advice. It's just my thoughts. Like, don't just like, oh yeah, I'm going to quit my job tomorrow. And pursue my dreams. You can if you have the savings and you don't have a lot of expenses. You could. I'm not saying you can. But yeah, I've realized that this is pretty much a— this is becoming a trend now. The— this like bold headline and then you have this clean like Apple Studio Display Mockup and that I saw that on another product as well. V7, which has the same as this one, or this one is the same as V7. Interesting. Well, it's already been an hour that we've been talking. That's cool. I hope you guys are enjoying this kind of little livestream. I think it's it's always nice to catch up with everyone. Have a nice little chat together. Talk about the plans. Let me know if you've liked the video as well. I'd like to know it because it's different, different editing, a different. I mean, different. Yeah, it's technically is the first AI video I've made on the channel, right? Like I remember the previous one, like how to make design so fast it feels illegal. So many people thought it was, I mean, not so many people, but a few people thought it was AI. And now it's the first actual AI design process system that I've made. And I've realized that also, I'm not literally writing stuff and then showing the AI thinking through it and building it. It's more like me doing it. And then what I want to do is, this is done and here's my step-by-step process through it. But it was fun to make. It was fun to work on. I've enjoyed it. And yeah, it's pretty cool. So I'm happy about— I'm personally happy with it. Actually, that's what matters most. It's like, am I happy with it? And I am. It's not perfect, but it's a good step forward. And it's nice to make some content again. It's been— I'm looking at the stats right now. I mean, not— I mean, the stats, the data. It's been over a month since I last posted a video, so it feels nice. Hey, Maminder, happy to have you on the, on the stream. Glad you could make it. Have you been doing good? So yeah, it's been a while, and I'm like, you know, it's like when you don't make content for a while, you have this pressure almost of Actually, maybe we don't need that. There we go. But now the camera is a little pushed. Now you see my screen. Okay, it's okay like that. I'm trying to stay next to the mic just so that we have good audio. But when you don't post for a while, you have the pressure of like, I have the next video I post has to be good because people have been waiting for it. And actually, it's okay. I think most people are not waiting for it. Not like, you know, like actively like, oh, I hope it's happening. I hope it's happening. And ultimately, you know, no matter if it's a redesign video or me talking about the AI design process, it's just me doing my stuff, which I think has worked a little bit. But yeah, the next step is going to be about making it more entertaining. Which might be a challenge because it might require more editing and more recording time and more design work. But the benefit is, and I think the reason why I've never done it before, is because back when I was doing more recent videos like once a week, I couldn't have had time to do it. Now that I have pretty much removed any Sort of like time frame of I have to make a video every week. I think it's a lot more freeing in that sense. Like I can just make a cool video, even if it takes me a few days to work on it and it takes like a month to post it. It's like it's okay. It's no big deal. You're doing great so far. I appreciate it. And I always, I can never like engueña. I'm trying. But yeah, happy to have you here. It's been a while as well since we last talked on the stream. But yeah, that's kind of like the little updates and stuff. Keep going and we'll keep showing support. Thank you. I thank you for showing support and always being there. And you know, like, I'm really grateful because most of like the pro designers or like the members of the YouTube channel, they are still here even if I'm not as active, even if I don't post a ton, even like regular subscribers, viewers watching this, the livestream or watching the replay. It's, uh, I really appreciate the time you're spending with me and watching my content. You can always follow me also on all the social media platforms. I'm not posting a lot, but maybe that can be a reason to do it. Like all the links are in the description. So that's yeah, I'm trying stuff. Ultimately, that's the key. It's and you know, it's the more you're going to try scary stuff and and being okay, being not the best at something. I think the more you're going to get towards your. Like doing the, like being the most yourself, where it's like there is almost no trying. It's just like who you are is the best and what you're doing is who you are. So it's all again the best. And I think that's like the, I don't know, it takes time, I think, and a lot of work, but ultimately that's kind of like the positive side of Of the of the struggle, it sounds very dramatic. But that's kind of like what I'm trying to build towards. Whether it's content design, finding clients, and marketing, and sales, and stuff. It has to be who you are. But to be who you are, you have to also like grow and try stuff and be bad at stuff. So hopefully, it's also helpful for you to for you guys to like learn about it. And yeah, I think I will slowly soon end the stream and get into the evening. It is so hot right now. It's crazy. I have to like shut the shut the blinds because it's we're cooking here. But yeah, I hope you guys are doing well. I hope you will enjoy the rest of the week. You will enjoy the weekend. Get some time outside, get some sun for your vitamins, drink some water, and be okay with the fact that you know it takes a lot more time than you think, and it's a lot tougher than it is. And and that you have to do the boring hard work to get what you want. And if you want something pretty cool and different and extraordinary, you have to do something that other people are not. Doing and are not willing to do. Which, by the way, your definition of what's difficult might actually be super easy for people who are doing what you want to do, if that makes sense. And that's it. Take care, everyone. Have a good rest of your day. Bye.