Pre-Cringing Over the Met Gala and Celebrating the End of the Strike

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Lorenzo.

And this is the Pop Style Opinion Fest. Hello kittens. Welcome back to another edition of the pso. I am the tea and your tilo, Tom Fitzgerald, and I'm here with the low in your tilo, Lorenzo Marquez, my lovely husband. Hello, lovely husband.

Yeah, lovely.

How are you?

But he's always here for you.

It's a rainy, miserable day.

I know, but I kind of like.

It with a little on the grounds outside.

Yeah, I love fall. It's my favorite.

I tweeted last night that there's this very short period. It's usually only a couple of weeks out of the year where it's warm enough that your windows are open, but there's a breeze and all of the leaves are off the trees. Which means if you're in the back of our loft, we live in this industrial loft. If you're in the back, you can hear church bells from four blocks away. You can't hear it at other times of the year because there's leaves on all the trees that are blocking the sound or you have an air conditioner on or your windows are closed, but there's just this period where the wind is kicking up but it's still warm. And every 15 it's one of those church that does it every 15 minutes. So I love it. It really marks our day.

No, I agree. Like I said, and when I go to the gym and I just walking around and it has that, it has that vibe, that vibe of fall and warmth.

Once again, we apologize. We didn't have something for you last week. We didn't have a podcast, and we just really didn't feel like we had material that was worth it. We actually do have, I think, a good series of discussions for you today. And we decided last week we talked it out and we said, listen, we don't have anything for this week. But you know what? Every year, we skip the week of Thanksgiving, and we don't do a podcast. And it's usually. Because it's not usually the best podcast week of the year. And we're busy in terms of numbers. Well, people are busy, right?

Everyone is.

But we talk about our Christmas holidays and our holiday planning so much over the. You know, over the course of the holidays that we thought we would devote an entire podcast to just Tilo's holiday planning. And we're gonna tell you all of it.

I know. I mean, we mentioned that we. Every year we do this.

It'll be recipes.

Yeah.

It'll be Lorenzo's gift wrapping technique. It'll be all of it.

It's funny because every year we say, we're not gonna buy more ornaments. We're not gonna buy more ornaments. And we always do. Like, we came back from Europe with, like, 30.

No, we came back from Europe with, like, 15 ornaments. And I love them because some of them are tiki tacky souvenir ornaments. And some of them are actually, like, we got them from art museums in Europe from the gift shop, and they're actually gorgeous. And we bought one at the Tulip Museum, Amsterdam, which is gorgeous.

We posted a picture of us, and Tommy's holding a bag, and it was so cute. Someone said, oh, I bet there's an art in that.

And there was an ornament that was so cute.

I was like, yeah, bingo. In fact, I was talking to my mom, and I would say, mom, I think we need another tree. And she started laughing. I was like, well, we have too many ornaments, and I don't like the idea of, like, just leaving them in a bunch of them.

Well, I haven't told you yet about my plans for our second tree, because we have a second tree in our dining room. And you know what? I'll spring that on you when the mics are not on, because I can tell there will be an argument. But we are gearing up for the holidays. Lorenzo's mother is coming to stay with us all through Christmas, which is really exciting.

It is exciting.

I'm gonna just lavish her with all of the Fitzgerald family holiday traditions. We have our cookie exchange party, which we're doing this. We're hosting, as we do every year.

And the ornament exchange.

And the ornament exchange that we do every year. And all of that. We'll run down all of that in our special edition, all our things. But like just this week. As I said, we live in like a big industrial loft. There is. There are almost no walls except the bathroom.

Right. It's a very big space. It's the entire floor. But we only.

It's wide open. That's actually how I have always liked living.

I mean, it's perfect for two people, for a couple.

But it's bad when you have a house.

Yes.

And we've always had to figure out, well, there is no guest bedroom. We barely have a bedroom. I mean, we have a bedroom, but it doesn't have a door on it. It only has a half wall.

Right.

Because that's. I like lofting. I mean, we love. No, we love our cats, and our cats love loft.

Everyone. Everyone here.

But when you have a family, you have to figure something out. And you know, she's not. My mother in law's not sleeping on my couch. There's no chance in hell. And we used to have a futon, but we got rid of it.

You hate them.

I don't like them. No offense to anybody, but they're college to me. They're college dorm furniture. There's just no way to dress them up. I feel like, you know, you reach a certain age and you're like, yeah, they always.

No matter what, they always look like a big mattress folded.

They do. I don't love them.

Yeah. I mean, no. What you do.

We got a nice daybed.

Yes, very nice.

Which, I don't know where that's gonna fit in this place. But we're gonna figure it out.

Cause we have too many things.

And actually, I mean this. I know wherever the daybed is going, it will be within feet of our Christmas tree because it's going at that end of the loft. So she'll be sleeping next to the Christmas tree.

Oh, my God. She'll be fine.

I said I had to convince Lorenzo to get the daybed. Cause we weren't sure what we were going to do about her sleeping. And we really don't have room for more furniture in this place. But I think the selling point for you was we get to decorate it for Christmas. Like, it'll be right next to our Christmas tree. So we'll get all these pillows.

Right.

We're going to TJ Maxx later. We're just gonna drop cash.

And the thing is that we have.

Chintzy little Christmas pillows.

I'll explain a little more. We have two chairs that we love. They're. They're in front of the apartment, you know, and we. They're. They're just gorgeous. And. But the cats are always on them. Always, always. So we have to like, I, I'm, sometimes I'm coming with my cup, you know, cup of coffee and I'm, I just want to be on that chair and there's a cat there. So having the daybed will be nice because they'll be on the daybed and I can take it and I can take the chair.

I don't know how. I don't know if we're keeping this daybed permanently.

Right. We'll see.

It didn't cost a lot. We're, we're gonna dress it up nice. But we didn't spend a shit ton of money on this. But it looks nice and it might be a permanent installation or it might just be for the holidays and we might put it. Because it does fold up, it disassembles. So we'll see. I don't know if that was fascinating to all of you, but that's a little preview of our holiday plans. We're gonna talk this week about the Met Gala. We're gonna cover two things that are pretty much our areas of expertise, one of which is fashion and the other is the red carpet. Well, they're both fashion, I guess. We're going to talk about the Metcalis theme, which was just announced and oh my God, I put my head in my hands as soon as I heard what it was. And we'll get to why. And we're also going to celebrate the end of the frickin stag after strike and talk about what that means generally as well as what that means for us, because, you know, it's our podcast, so we're very self centered that way. And by the way, since we've been talking about our holidays, now's the time to talk about Bombas for the holidays. Because when you give Bombas this holiday, you're giving more, more comfort because there's socks, underwear, T shirts, and slippers. And I just said to Lorenzo, oh, there's something you can get me. Bombas slippers for Christmas. Mark that down. Okay, you all heard me.

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Oh, we're gonna start with the Matt Gala. Okay.

Yes. I actually told you that before we flipped on our mic. And you never listened to your husband of 25 years?

No, never.

Anyway, marriage. That's why I have to laugh when people complain that we talk over each other during this. I'm like, do you not know married couples of decades? Because that's all we do. And I never interrupt each other anyway.

I'm always asking him to repeat things. Yeah.

Anyway, we're terribly annoying people. That's why you love us. Anyway, the Met Gala. Why don't you start with.

Well, they just announced theme. What is the theme? Tell me.

No, I've done a lot of talking. They're tired of hearing me.

Well, it's. The theme is Sleeping Beauty reawakening fashion, whatever that means. But anyway, so it's. The whole thing is about. What is it? Well, they said it's pretty much focusing on the garment and the importance of textiles and fabrics and all that. And the. I read several pieces, including the press page, and Andrew Bolton, who is in charge of the gala, and he's also the. He's also in charge of the Costume Institute. He said that the idea is that they're going to have. They're going to cover sort of like 400 years of history, fashion history, and from the 17th century to the 21st century. And it's pretty much garments from all these decades. And the idea is that it's a very interesting idea. It's a lot of blah, blah, blah. But it boils down to a very interesting idea, which is to focus on garments that people used to wear but.

Now are so old, and they're so old, delicate that they're sleeping beauties. You can't wear them anymore.

Right. But the whole point is very interesting, is that pieces that people used to wear, but now they are pieces of art in a museum, and because of that, they should be treated like art. And the difference between a real garment that people wear and then when they become a piece of art, the whole. The whole history behind that, that's what they're focusing on. And that they're so delicate that you can't. You know, they're not. You're not supposed to wear them anymore. Okay, Kim Kardashian and.

Well, can we stop right there? I mean, right there, it feels like this is somehow a response to that. And I wouldn't be surprised if it was a response to that, because when Kim Kardashian wore Marilyn's Happy Birthday, Mr. President gown to the Met Gala, there was a huge outcry. We devoted the whole podcast to it. And at the time, we said not to defend her, but something like that should never have wound up in private hands. That was the problem. You sell these things to private owners, and that's, you know, they become that they can rent them out to anyone. But it was a huge outcry because she wore something and she did damage the gown. And, you know, the Costume Institute is devoted to the idea of preserving pieces of fashion, historic pieces of fashion, important. So for her to do something like that. And, you know, technically, Anna Wintour, who is in charge of the Met Gala and the Costume Institute, she would have okayed that outfit because technically, she is supposed to be okaying all of the outfits. So she came in for some criticism. So, yeah, I feel that this is very much in response to that, that they feel they need to step up and reassert what they're all about in the wake of that kind of PR disaster.

If you think about it, the whole idea of this gala event is to raise money so that they can preserve more costume.

And, you know, people forget it is a museum. It is actually for a decent cause. If you believe in museums, if you believe in that art and culture need to be preserved.

Right.

The Met Gala isn't just some frivolous fashion night. It's, you know, this is why when, for instance, again, we devoted the podcast to it, when Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, I know there was a huge outcry against her wearing that gown that said tax the rich on it or whatever, but the idea of a New York politician going to a benefit for a museum, there was nothing wrong about that. But people think it's. They think it's a celebrity thing, they think it's a fashion thing, but it's a museum thing. Sorry.

So back to Kim Kardashian. I do understand that, you know, especially people who are part of museums and exhibits and all that, they were bent out of shape. You know, they were really disappointed with the costume of the Institute. Institute.

Right.

Because they felt that, you know, this is kind of disrespectful. I mean, what you're doing here is raising money so that you can preserve, you know, those garments, you know, and. And then you have someone just, you.

Know, you know, flouting that.

Yeah. Someone who doesn't give a. It's more interested in her wearing the dress than anything else.

Right.

And destroying the garment in the process. So. Yeah, I do see that happening now. And then the explanation is that they're going to have a lot of. They're going to have about. I mean, I read several pieces. Some people said 50, some another piece said 250. So I'd go with 50, 50 historically significant pieces that they're going to have displayed in coffins, which is very interesting.

Very dramatic.

Very dramatic. And they're going to be using AI and CGI to sort of revitalize those pieces. I don't know how they're doing. Maybe they're going to make them move.

Some sort of digital production.

Digital production, too, because that's the whole point, is that these pieces can no longer be worn. I mean.

Yeah. They're not living pieces.

Yes, exactly. And they're just going to sort of present those pieces that way. So it's. The whole thing is interesting. You know, it's a lot of blah, blah, blah. I don't know if that's going to translate to the red carpet for the Met Gala. Probably not.

Well, here's my thing.

They're going to show up wearing. You know, they're going to show up.

With a pillow or like a Disney princess. I mean, they've shown up like Disney princesses already, right? They did one the year the theme was, like, that ex machina theme, and it had to do with, like, automation in fashion production, and people showed up wearing robot costumes. I mean, they tend to take these things so literally. And every year, boy, do we get yelled at more and more every year. It's not that I am angry that people treat it like a costume party, because there's no, you know, the horse has left the barn, so to speak. There's no getting that back. I was never angry about it. But every year, we would make a point, especially when we were live tweeting these things, and we still do live tweet them to remind people that people get so hung up on, did they nail the theme? Did the person nail the theme? And that's where you get into this whole idea that the theme theme is some sort of costume directive. And sometimes these themes, they're not. They're not meant to be. They're referring to an exhibit in a museum. They're not referring to a dress code for a party. That's not where it originates from. But that's how people take it. And that's how the fashion press and the celebrity press tend to talk about the Met Gala. So every year, I try to make the point, just a reminder that, you know, once again, this is not a costume. And like, for instance, when Anna Wintour, she shows up in whatever the hell she feels like wearing, because it's not a costume party, and she doesn't treat it like one. She treats it like a gala event. And people are always criticizing her. And I'm like, yeah, she's actually the only one who understands. Yeah, I don't know that this isn't. But you're right. They're gonna show up in, like, in Disney princess outfits. Charming.

You guys might remember Victor and Rolf, they had a collection where.

I know they had the beds.

Yeah, they had the beds and the. And the pillow. Someone is going to wear that. I think if they. If they wore things that were more deconstructed, you know, that would be interesting in terms of garment that it looks like something aged or old or falling apart, then that would be done.

In fact, I mean, I can see.

Tom Brown doing a fantastic.

I don't hold out a lot of hope for that.

The gala is having the support of Loewe, which is interesting. I'm sure we're going to be seen a lot of interesting pieces.

Loewy will be doing a lot because.

Louisville does crazy things and. But it's just interesting. I mean, the times are different. I mean, the event is sponsored by TikTok.

I mean, I can't even.

That's how far.

I can't even.

Where we are right now.

It's distressing.

I know. Fashion sponsored by TikTok. So, you know, it is what it is. I. I do think that. Especially because it's all about textiles and the structure of the garment and, you know, things that people wore and stuff like that. I'm hoping that the designers can be creative and make things interesting based on that. We'll see. We'll see. I mean, sometimes they don't care, and sometimes. And it always boils down to celebrities. They all want to look very hot on the red carpet.

That's it. They don't want to do conceptual things. They want to look cool and hot.

This is the kind of world we live in. We have to look sexy and hot all the time.

No, we don't.

I'm just saying that's how it's presented out there. No, I didn't say my word. I meant in general. That's how things are presented. And yeah, you have to be young, sexy, and hot. So if the garment they're wearing on the rear carpet is not like that, then, you know, doesn't check all these marks. Forget it.

You can't rely on celebrities to interpret a museum theme. We will be going to that exhibit, but not until June. But we'll do a little report on that exhibit. We did a whole bit on our visit to the Chanel exhibit at the V and A Museum. And I feel like, you know, we've done enough of these fashion and costume exhibit reportage, right? We're gonna be in New York for something legendary children related during Pride month in June. I'm not gonna announce the details yet, but it will be an event you can go to, and it will be Met affiliated. And we've already been told by the organizer that she'll take us to the Met. And I'm like, ah, perfect. We'll get to go to the Costume Institute for.

I think I want to make that point. That There's a. Not a big difference, but there is a difference between the. The actual exhibit and the gala.

You know, like we said, huge, huge difference.

So I highly recommend, if you have the time, if you're in New York, and if you're interested in fashion, go to the costume. Those exhibits are really, really interesting. They are.

And it's not all that. I mean, they have entire. Yes. Remember that kimono exhibit that we saw? Absolutely stunning. It's all kinds of fashion and textile history, and it's worth going to at any time of the year, anytime you're in New York. But we will, of course, have plenty to say about how everyone, quote, unquote, interprets the theme. I'm just groaning because I know some of it's going to be so tacky and disappointing, but people are going to cheer on whoever shows up looking like a Disney princess. So that's what they're all going to do.

Yeah, they're all going to think about.

They're all going to do Disney drag.

Yeah.

But whatever, whatever. You know, And Katy Perry will show up dressed like an entire bedroom set or something, you know, by Moschino. You know, two nightstands on either side of her.

Oh, my God, that would be awesome. Oh, my God, I love that. Like, do an 18th century version of Brett.

No, I hate that.

Yeah. And have that side table. Shut up on each side. Oh, my God. Now I want that.

I don't want it. I don't want it. I hate it. All right. And in related red carpet news, who praise Jesus, the SAG after strike is dumb. Actually praise Fran Drescher.

Oh, yes, yes, very much so.

And Dylan Crabtree Ireland, who were both in charge of the SAG aftracide of the strike.

But who knew the nanny.

Who knew the nanny had it in her. She said in an interview with the Hollywood Reporter today that Meryl Streep told her she needs to run for president.

She also said they were not prepared for her at all.

I don't think anyone saw her coming. Really. I don't think everything she did was flat out perfect. We were just here last week or the week before, rolling our eyes at the whole Halloween thing when she was telling people they couldn't dress like characters for Halloween. And that was kind of silly, but. No, she did. She did an amazing job. And apparently the deal that they've struck with the AMPTP is fantastic. Like, one of the biggest pay raises in, like, 40 years of, you know, minimum wage pay raises.

I think these things need to be done. Like, it's like, for example, like the MeToo movement and things like that, when they happen, they change history in a way. Not much, but a little.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know how much. Me too.

Well, but they. They do. They do it. We talk about it more than before. You know, let me put it this way. So I do think this is a historical agreement. I mean, but it's important because people tend to look at, you know, whatever happened in the past to sort of, like, refer that to whatever they're doing in the future. So, you know, that's good. That's good. It means that, you know, if you. If you fuck with us, we will do this again, you know, so it's a.

No. It was a powerful moment, the way they rallied that entire community of actors. And, you know, there was stuff that was happening behind the scenes where a lot of a list actors were grumbling, and she managed to whip several of them into shape or would get them to back down. There was that whole thing with George Clooney writing that letter. She was like, nope, nope, we're not doing that. And from what I know, from what I can tell, it's only been like 36 hours since it was announced. I've done some reading up on it, but from what I know, they got what they wanted. They got exactly what they wanted. I don't think she had to give up much. So the union is very happy. That community is very happy. And we are very happy. We've talked about this before on the podcast. There is an entire economy, an entire community of people affected by this strike that have nothing to do with acting.

Yeah.

And we are, I was about to say peripherally part of that community, but only in terms of location. Cause we're nowhere near Hollywood or New York. But. But we are not peripheral to this. We're part of that whole. Listen, I saw so many sites and writers that we follow on social media in the last 24 hours have been like, oh, thank God, we can get back to work. We can write about premieres, we can write about. We can interview actors. That's whole thing.

For many, many years, we have talked about the importance of red carpet. The red carpet and things like that. And I could see people going, like, really? But you kind of understand a little now because.

Oh, I think it's been great for.

Because you understand. I mean. I mean, a sad example, for example, is Lily Gladstone, for example, someone amazing who did a fantastic job in her movie Killers of the Flower Moon, a very important movie. She's fantastic. And here's a great opportunity to represent.

The, you know, the wear indigenous design. Yeah, that sort of thing.

Exactly. And it didn't happen. I mean, it happened very little. But we could have seen so many wonderful garments and stuff and so many.

Films suffered during this period because without someone to promote them, it's very hard to get people to talk about them. This is what I mean, this has actually been a boon for people in the red carpet industry and its surrounding environs, of which we are part, because it really proved that this stuff matters is what we have been saying since day one of covering red carpet. This stuff matters. It doesn't matter to the world, it matters to the industry. Well, that's doesn't matter to world peace, it doesn't matter to your life or anything like that. But it matters to the industry.

I agree. I mean, that's why, you know, actors do tv, do talk shows and things like that. Because when you see, I mean, they have to be out there, you know, exposed, you know, that's, that's when you start talking about their movies or what they're doing and what they're promoting. I mean, it is a very important part.

Yes.

Of promoting anything that they do. Movie, TV shows and so on. So when you don't have that element out there, getting photographed to death, I mean, yeah, it's out there.

It makes it harder to promote something like that. And not surprisingly, Marvel or the Marvel branch of Disney just came out this month. There was a really devastating report in Variety magazine about how badly Marvel is doing. The brand is sort of plummeting. The last several movies didn't do as well. The last several TV series haven't done as well. And the upcoming. Well, it opened already. The Marvels with Brie Larson.

I think it opened today.

Yeah, it wasn't tracking well. In fact, it's tracking to be the biggest disaster in biggest opening disaster in Marvel history. So Marvel's been reeling from a lot of bad press and man, the second this ended, they threw people out there. They threw Iman Vellani, who is the co star of the Marvels. They threw her out last night at a fan event. And in Hollywood. Yeah, they threw Teyona Paris, who is also stars in the Marvel. She was at some other fan event. Although we didn't surprise Brie Larson wasn't there. Yeah, Brie Larson is going to be on the Tonight show tonight and so is Tom Hiddleston, who Loki Season two just wrapped. You know, he's a Marvel star as well. So they, they have been just so eager to get their star. And we've joked in the past about the Disney dollars that go behind their publicity.

Right.

Nobody does it like Disney. Nobody pushes their stars out.

I'll give you an example. I go every day, like Disney does every day. I go to the studios press page looking for stuff, and all of a sudden I see all these folders already created for future red carpets.

That weren't there.

Yeah, that weren't there. And now they're all like, stand by, wait.

And we've been hearing stories and chatter about how everybody's phone is ringing off the hook. Everybody's inbox is filling up. It's all publicists and stylists and just completely flooding the zone. You are likely to see nothing but the biggest A list stars on all of the nightly talk shows because all of them want to get out there. Lily Gladstone is gonna be pushed out. I hope so. She'll hit every frigging talk show. And this is what I think this is part of what we were going to talk about today with this topic is what they should be doing next. And I jokingly said last night they should give. We tweeted this last night that Margot Robbie should get some sort of half hour special where she gets to wear all of the Barbie outfits that she didn't get to wear. I was joking about that. And she was more or less at the end of that tour when the kind of. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, kind of the movie had already opened and it was Oppenheimer that actually. They did one premiere, they did half. Yeah.

And they all walk off.

But I do think they should be getting people out. There should be more of those sort of for your consideration. Screening events. Yes.

Oh, yes.

The movie already opened. It's not a premiere. But go ahead and have some sort of event where she can. She or he can put on a nice outfit and pose in front of a movie poster. I mean, we're heading into awards season anyway. So I'm semi predicting this. This is my suggestion to anyone who's listening. And you know what? I know some PR people do listen and I know a lot of stylists listen. But my suggestion is you get that stuff out. You just do screenings and band members. You get them on the View, you get them on every AM talk show, every late night talk show, and you put them in killer outfits for all of it. All that stuff you didn't get to. Because as we've explained in the past, stylists. There is such an economy behind the red carpet. Stylists spend Years developing relationships with every major fashion house. They generate contacts inside every major fashion house. And that is how they get. That's how they get invited. That's how they get front row. That's how they get to go backstage and tell the designer which ones they want for their client. That sort of thing.

And makeup people and hair people, all that.

None of that stuff is being done. And none of that stuff is being promoted. So, yeah, there's a backlog of a high end fashion that. But I swear, everyone's gonna be showing up on the View wearing gowns.

I know. I remember. I'm ready for it, though, when they drop fellow travelers. And I remember someone on Instagram saying, oh, my God, we're not gonna see Matt Bowman, Jonathan Bello on the red carpet.

Well, hopefully we will now.

Yeah, maybe now.

Or at least they were gonna be doing, you know, talk shows and stuff like that. I just think they should do whatever they can between now and January. January award season starts. The Emmys were supposed to be in September and they were postponed to January. That's the other thing. I mean, why not just bump the Emmys back down to December or something? Just go ahead and throw a show together. I know. Well, I know it takes a lot.

The thing about the red carpet, and I insist here, because you have to think about their fan bases. I mean, and it's all social media, it's Instagram, it's everything. And you see that a lot. Like you see the Hunger Games now. And I went online and everyone is posting those pictures because you have the pictures, you have the red carpet. So you see them posting about Rachel Zaggler and everybody else, and they're wearing amazing stuff. She wore that beautiful Alexander McQueen that kind of looked like the movie, you know, with the flower, but it looked like a flame.

Right.

That kind of stuff. It does matter. It does matter. It's. It's a way to promote and expose them more and feature them more everywhere. Because they have fans. They have fans and they repost everything.

Yeah. It also should be noted that this means that films and TV shows can go back into production. And that means.

Oh, yeah, that's the other thing.

You know, more entertainment down the line. There's going to be a gap, much like there was when we had COVID lockdown. But I. Again, COVID lockdown is a perfect way of. For me, Pardon me. Of looking at this, because we were forced through the same sort of period of no red carpets. But. But as I've said before, this period. Pardon me, this period we're not going through some sort of worldwide crisis. We didn't have to worry about rallying people and making them feel better. And we're all in this together. It really wasn't that big a deal. It didn't affect most lives. So it was a crisis that was purely internal. We couldn't go around complaining about this.

No, we can't.

And we didn't want to. We supported it.

No, we support it. It's hard for everybody. And, you know, you might be sitting there saying boo hoo, but, you know.

Every business has it. Yeah, this was ours, you know.

Yeah. I mean, you have to understand, it's not so much the money we make to pay our own bills, but it's money to keep the site running.

Right.

And that's true of a lot of people out there for everything.

Right? I mean, the fuck girls. We were saying last night on Twitter that we all wanted to pop open our champagne when we heard the news. And it's hard for entertainment sites, for fashion sites, when this stuff happens. And I have to say, people hate to hear us brag. But I am gonna pat myself on the back ourselves on the back a little bit here. We, as a site weathered a pandemic and then we weathered the longest entertainment strike in the history of the entertainment industry. And we're fine. We got came out of both of those areas of, of low content and we're fine. Which actually speaks to the stability of our site and everything like that. So, you know, at a time when sites are constantly shutting down, Jezebel just got shut down this week. And that is sad. It's really sad. Like the whole Gawker era. Well, the Gawker era ended a long time ago. But when I read that, I was like, it really is over. Like that whole thing is done.

So I do want to thank everyone who is always reading us, supporting us.

Clicking on our site, listening to this podcast.

We get emails all the time. Can I help you guys? Can I send you money and things like that? But you know, there's a way you can help us just keep on clicking.

On our site and sharing, telling, sharing, tell people to listen to this podcast. That's how we keep going.

That's how our site will remain like.

And subscribe, as they say. Anyway, I think we have exhausted it. I'm actually really excited about the explosion of celebrity fashion we are about to see next. I think it's going to go all the way up to the Met Gala, non stop up until May. Right.

I think there will be an Explosion. Now everyone is just waiting. I think it's great for the red carpet. I agreed for all of that because that is promoting the movies, the work they're doing. But it's also great that these people are going to be getting health insurance and they're going to be.

Oh yeah.

I mean, but it's, it's, you know, it needs to be said. And better, you know, salaries, because.

Protections.

Because when you think about it, I mean, there is no movie, there is no TV show without a writer in an actor. Yeah, there isn't. I mean, you know, you have to think about that. We have, we have a tendency to sort of like just focus on the main actors and the director. But everybody else is working there. Supporting actors. Everyone.

Yeah.

And these people are going to hopefully be making a little more money and have health insurance and everything else they need.

But more importantly for us, come to the site multiple times a day, every day, because we are going to see so much high end, crazy fashion coming at us. I guarantee by Monday, because today is Friday. By Monday the whole landscape will have changed.

It will change. Yeah.

And we're gonna hear about all these events coming up that are just being hastily planned now in New York and la.

I think that's a great idea.

More fan events, more screening for your consideration, whatever. Just do a frickin photo call, you know, but get Lily Gladstone in. Every freaking indigenous designer she had lined up for that tour. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. And put Margot Robbie in the pizza cream gown or whatever. Whatever she didn't get to finish. You know, get all that stuff. Get Lily, get Florence Pugh out there in another nipple bearing gown. You know, she had 20 of them lined up for Oppenheimer.

She. Her dress is lined up.

Yeah. Anyway, those are our thoughts. We're just giddy with excitement, both because the holidays are coming and because we are going to have so much content, which is nice.

It's always nice, let me tell you, when you have a lot of content, I mean, it makes things easier for us.

Oh, absolutely. And as Lorenzo said, we thank you all for sticking by us during all of these lean times and not so lean times. We are finny.

I think that's it.

All right, so we will be back next week with whatever crosses our. Well, I should say that I would love to hear all your thoughts on all of this. Yes. Come to our site. There's always a post dedicated to that week's podcast and we'd love to hear your thoughts on any of those on the red carpet, on what you'd like, to see from Margot Robbie on the strike on the Met Gala, on our holiday plans.

I know.

Which we haven't even scratched the surface of that.

I know. And then we're gonna go out and buy new sheets for my mom because my hus. And insist that guests always have the best.

Oh, my gosh. We bought a new bed, and we don't have sheets for that size bed. True.

That's true.

But. And I said this was the selling point. I was like, we'll just decorate it for Christmas. It'll be Christmas sheets and a Christmas comforter and all these Christmas pillows, and it'll look adorable when we have parties and stuff like that. Anyway, we'll probably put it on the Instagram. That's the other thing. You should check our Instagram during the month of December, because Lorenzo posts a new ornament every single day during the month. It's our little Advent calendar. Oh, we forgot to talk about. Oh, my God. Let's do it.

We do that every year, and I've been bad lately.

Okay, let me just. All right. We said people.

Yeah. Let's be honest.

They thought this podcast was ending okay. Couple years back. I know Lorenzo didn't grow up with Advent calendars, but I did. Not elaborate ones. They usually were the kind that you just opened a door and it had a little picture behind it or something. But I bought him one a couple of years ago, like, three or four years ago. He had never seen them before. It was the Bon Maman one, where you open it up and it's all the ones which.

It's gorgeous.

It's all tiny little jars of jam and all these exotic flavors. And I did it. I surprised him with it the first year. He loved it. And I said, you know what? This could be our little tradition. You should get me one next year and we'll do this. So the next year came around, and he only wanted the Bon Maman one. So I got him another one. And on December 1st, I handed it to him, and he completely forgot to get me one. And he very. He rushed and overnighted a Godiva Advent calendar for me, and I was like, that's fine. Thank you for thinking of me, but I don't actually like cordials. I don't like that kind of chocolate. And then the following year, I got him a Bon Mama, and he forgot again. And this time, I blew up at you. I was like, really? Two years in a row.

No. And trust me, I really forgot because that's how my head works.

So, anyway, I felt horrible A very expensive William Sonoma Advent calendar.

An amazing one that can make up for all the shit. Yes. Yeah, for all. Yeah, the time I forgot. Anyway, but we do that every year, so. And you gave me.

I got you. I decided not to do the bonama this year, especially since he bumped it up. He bought a really expensive one. So I was like, I can't get.

And the thing is that I love the jam one, but I don't need all that jam. So we end up.

So I got him a l' Occitane one. So it's all like Laxitane products for his skin and soap and stuff like that. And he'll love it. And his mother is coming, but she's not coming until the middle of the month. And I wanted her to be part of all of our holiday stuff. I bought her a stocking with her name on it. She doesn't know any of this. And one of the things we're gonna look for when we go out shopping today is I'm gonna get her a mug. Because we each have our special Christmas mug. So she has to have her anyway. So she's all. She's coming in the middle of the month, but they make 12 day advent calendars. So I got her a Clarins. You know the skincare line, the Clairent Clairent. They have a 12 day advent calendar. And it's just all, you know, toners and wrinkle creams.

Oh, she'll love it.

She will. And it's all, like little sample sizes, so it won't take up a lot of room in her luggage. So those are our Advent calendar plans.

I know, it is exciting. We get up, we have our coffee, and we open that little door, we.

Have our little mugs. I have my little Santa mug, and he has his little reindeer mug. And we'll have to get her, I don't know, like an angel or something.

Like that, because she likes angels. Anyway.

All right, that's enough. We're done. Thank you. Cannot thank you enough for listening to our cartoon voices ramble about all this nonsense. We'll be back next week with whatever crosses our eyes or crosses our desk. So until then, take care of yourselves. Love you. Mean it. Bye. Bye.

Bye.

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