This is a throwback episode of the Earn Your Happy podcast (host Lori Harder) featuring speaker and author Judi Holler. The conversation centers on fear and public speaking — practical tips for aspiring speakers, clarifying your elevator pitch, overcoming stage anxiety, and business aspects of paid speaking (Judi reportedly earns ~80% of her revenue as a professional speaker). The episode references Judi's book Fear is My Homeboy and her course Speaker School, includes personal anecdotes (e.g., pitching Oprah, stage tips like shoes), and mixes motivational framing with concrete coaching advice.
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This is just all me searching, searching, searching for something outside of myself to validate myself, to make me feel worthy and seen and heard and all this stuff right when really it was always inside of me. I just had to wa myself back up.
Hey everyone, welcome back to the Earn your Happy podcast. Today's episode is another throwback, one of my favorite conversations. And you guys know that I've had this podcast for eight years. So if you're newer to the podcast, I have literally recorded over 1400 episodes, you guys. So I want to make sure that you don't miss any of these super amazing, juicy conversations that I have chosen just for you. Because I can't tell you about the wealth of knowledge that is in this freaking catalog of throwbacks. I don't want you to miss it. It's truly what has changed my life and helped me on my journey of growth in entrepreneurship, in relationships, in personal development. And I know that these messages are going to hit you in the same kind of powerful way that they hit me. So I hope that you love this one as much as I do. And let's get started. Hey everyone. Welcome back to the show. I'm so excited for today's speaker because if you have ever had a fear of public speaking, if you have ever gotten the opportunity to speak and you did not know what to talk about, if you feel like you want to be a public speaker but you don't know where to start, you feel too afraid, this conversation is for you. So I used to be terrified to speak on stages and this chat on this podcast is full of ways to clarify your elevator pitch, being able to share exactly what you do and who you help, tips to get on stage, and how to take action despite your fear. So we have Judy Haller on the Podcast. She is a world renowned speaker and author of Fear is My Homeboy. We also share so many stories about rejections that we both feel faced. Like the time I actually got to pitch Oprah. Judy talks about the power of tapping into who you were as a kid, bringing more of her into your life and everything you create today. I had so much fun with this conversation. We talk about water beds and the best shoes to wear when you speak on stage. Guys, we went all over the place, but I swear it applies in the best way. Judy's an expert at teaching the business of speaking on stages. Her new course, Speaker School, is out now and it teaches you everything that you need to know on how to craft your message and step on stage and crush it. So, you guys, we also let you in on how you can be a part of that and we have some bonus content at the end as well. So if you want to learn more about speaker school, you guys check it out. Go look at the show notes. But most of all, let's get into the episode. Judy, welcome to earn your happy. Thank you so much for coming on.
So good to be here. I'm staring at the palm trees and Camelback Mountain. It's a whole vibe.
You've got a good. This is a good view. I'm also looking at my, you know, podcast team, which is looking at all your amazing view and the books. This is incredible. I'm so excited to have you on because we are going to talk about one of my favorite topics. Yeah, actually a couple of my favorite topics. Fear.
Okay.
Public speaking. I think that just scared everyone. Yeah. So keep listening. The anxiety has come up for everyone. We just hit everyone in the whole world and what they're afraid of. But you did write a book.
Book, yeah.
Called Fear is My Homeboy. You do make 80% of your revenue being a professional speaker on massive stages. You teach public speaking. You are kind of the amplifier of different people who want to learn how to public speak. So let's start with the fear topic. Let's just, let's let's go back to your book quick and just talk about the fear topic. Where did that come from? Why is fear such a big topic for you?
Well, I think if you are alive and you have a heartbeat in your chest and you are not a machine or a robot, you are going to feel fear and you're going to have to face it. And I think we have to begin with a conversation around, like, the F word, not the F word that y' all think we're gonna Talk about.
I like that word.
I love that. I love that F word.
This is an F word I don't like.
And it's the word fearless.
Hmm.
I take issue with it on a lot of levels because I think it's what causes so many of us so much pain because so marketed so merchandised like, it's movies and books and motivational T shirts and jewelry and bumpers. Like, everybody's telling us to go, be fearless. I know, like, and then the person that feels fear goes, oh, but I feel fear. So I'm not fearless. So therefore I'm trash and I'm doing it all wrong. And I'm here to say, can we just lay down that armor and understand that if we are afraid, number one, one, you're probably doing it right. It means you're on the precipice of something big, like some change. And number two, I'd like to remind everyone listening that if you were really fearless, you'd a probably be a sociopath.
Or dead.
Or dead. Or you'd never pay your taxes, you'd eat poisonous foods on purpose. You'd do all kinds of crazy things because you're fearless, right? So I don't know. There's a book called. Have you read Big Magic by.
Yes.
Okay, so there's this line in Big Magic where she goes, listen, the only fearless people I know are five year olds and sociopaths. So no, babe, the goal isn't fearless. The goal is brave. So I'm kind of always playing games with my fear. I think I'm sort of. And I think we should be on this mission to be brave. And like, how do we every day kind of play with that a little bit? How do we flex that muscle? Like, courage is a muscle and just like our muscle muscles, if we don't use it, like, how do we expect to get.
That is so true.
Braver, right? Or better or stronger? So I play these games, like, every day where I call them fear experiments. So I'm always like, okay, today how am I flexing the muscle? How am I increasing my tolerance for pain? So maybe it is putting my facial face on social. If I have it for a minute, Lori, maybe it's like, okay, today I'm wearing red lipsticks. I've never worn red lipstick. I'm like, yeah, where.
