Website Production at Scale - The AI Tool Stack for Modern Agencies with Marcel Knopf

I'm really excited to have Marcel with us today from OnePage. Marcel was at our last intensive. I had the opportunity to spend some time with him. I connected him with our director of operations and we've had some great conversations since. And Marcel is doing some really innovative things at a large scale for leveraging AI and leveraging systemization to generate high quality, best in class, high converting websites. At a much faster pace, at a much lower cost. Marcel, thanks so much for joining us live today.

Yeah, thanks for the opportunity. I'm really glad to be here. Hi everybody. I hope we can keep it interactive as Josh suggested. So feel free to ask me questions and I'll get back to them and then let's have a Q&A and I'll be happy to give you as much answers as I can. I've worked with over 4,000 agencies over the past 8 years. That are actively using our platform. I'm very deep into AI, but whatever route we want to take today, I'll be more than happy to do that.

So in order to kick things off, I want everyone to type Marcel into the comments here, Marcel, and I'm going to give Marcel the floor. All right, Marcel, you are ready to roll. The floor is yours.

Great. Thank you very much, Josh. I'll take over. All right. So as a starting point, I'm happy that so many people decided to listen into this topic because it's so important right now if you're an agency owner, in my opinion. So basically, you're all aware there's something that happened in this market, and what actually happened is that through AI, and everybody sees it, there's now the opportunity to produce websites, landing pages, and funnels way faster than you used to using old systems and flows. However, there's a problem with it because I assume almost all of you have seen on your social media when you log in hundreds of videos where it says, hey, use this prompt and you will create this amazing website and it will be there in 5 minutes. The actual reality of it is that if you do that and you create this type of a website, usually, first of all, it doesn't work like that. So many of these posts, they're actually engineered in a way that they look like they were created with only one single prompt, whereas in reality, there was a lot of tweaking done in the background in order to get them there. But even if you manage to use one of these tools to create a website with AI, the problem starts afterwards with adjusting it exactly to the needs of the customer and then maintaining it afterwards. So this is the question we're gonna tackle in this presentation. I have a few slides that I prepared for you guys, so I'll just share my screen and walk you through a few points that I want to address first, and then we'll go into Q&A and some more discussions related to that. Let me just start that presentation. So the, the workshop is how to streamline your web dev process. So first of all, short explanation. My name is Marcel. I'm 38 years old. I've been doing online marketing for 18 years. And funny enough, before I did software and before I did AI, I actually was an agency owner myself. So I can really understand the position you guys are in. I had an agency, I scaled it up to 64 employees. We were doing couple million in revenue per year. And it was a full-stack agency. We were creating websites, we were doing performance marketing. And running ads for them and in different verticals, right? So I'm just saying that so you understand, I understand a little bit how it is to run an agency and what issues you could usually run into, right? I founded OnePage. This is the company I'm representing. 8 years ago. This is my wife, by the way. I just put her in the picture because she's my wife and I love her very much. There's not a reason for that. And basically 8 years ago, I started this business. And I'm talking about it on stages. And aside of OnePage, just so you get the full background on me, I'm running a conference in Europe. It's called This is Marketing. And on the right, you see a picture of this conference where every year there's 6,000 to 8,000 people attending this conference. So this is what I do aside of managing OnePage. And I'm an AI enthusiast. I just recently went to HumanX. It's a conference about AI. That took place in the Valley. I'm visiting these kind of conferences very often. I'm deep into this AI bubble, if you want to call it that way. And so I know a little bit my way around there. All right. So what are we doing with OnePage? Just a brief summary. So it's an AI-powered page builder for marketers and agencies. It's being used by 17,000 customers, over 4,000 active agencies. And so many agencies are using it. But we want to talk first about— and so this is what we do, but I'll get to that a little bit later. So how does AI change the workflow for agency owners? I think this is what we really want to talk about. There's an interesting quote I want to show you to start to kick things off. It goes like this: AI just made every individual 10x more productive. No company became 10x more valuable as a result. So where did the productivity go? It's from George Sivoka. It's from Andreessen Horowitz. And it's an interesting question, and I want to make it in a more funny quote. And it's this one: Somewhere out there is a guy who uses Notion, Superhuman, OpenClaw on a Mac Mini, Raycast, a mechanical keyboard, WhisperFlow, and gets nothing done every single day. And that's a problem.

Why?

Because there's a huge gap between what AI can do and the adoption of AI. And it is not only relevant for the public, it is even more relevant for agency owners because AI can do a lot of things for you, but only if you use it the proper way. And especially when it comes to the creation of websites, landing pages, and flows, there are some issues if you use AI the wrong way, which will lead to mediocre results that you can't really, you use for your clients, or you underuse it, or you use it the wrong way and you basically get nowhere with it. And so I read in the chat that it's a little bit of mixed crowd here. So we have some people here in the room that are already using AI to build websites. I assume though that the majority of you, or many of you, are also still operating in a regular system, like for example, in WordPress. I talked to many agency owners and many confirmed to me that you're building your websites with WordPress. Those traditional platforms, they also have some issues that are related to that. But first, let's dive for another second into this AI opportunity. Possibility and adoption are drifting apart, and there's a historic parallel. Electricity arrived in the 1890s. Productivity of it actually arrived in the 1920s. So it took almost 30 years until people were able to really use it in a smart way. And factories were redesigned around the new technology, and then those factories 10x their output. I think that in this market where we at right now, something very similar has happened. There will be agencies that adopt SaaS and will win in the next 2 years because this is the window of opportunity that we're talking about. AI is getting easier and easier. So the longer you wait, the easier it is to use it and to build something great looking with it and to generate something great with it. And you've probably seen it over the last couple of months, how fast the market is shifting in this direction. So it's getting easier, but the adoption is way slower. So the majority of agency owners that are not in communities like these and are trying to educate themselves in how to win in this market, they will have an issue because the landscape is shifting. However, if you're one of those agencies that is great and fast, then you have a huge window of opportunity that basically opens up right now and allows you to win in this space. And the number one thing it's all about, and I want to briefly talk about it, is how you create context. And for this, I just want to stop the presentation for a second because I really want to see the chat and maybe you can Write me a few messages. So one more time for me so I can see it. If you're still using WordPress to create your websites, please write WordPress into the chat. If you're using an AI tool, please write in what AI tool are you using right now? And okay, I see many people are writing WordPress, so I'll wait. Some are using Claude, WordPress and Lovable, Landing Site AI, Claude, WordPress Duda, Lovable, WordPress plus AI. WordPress with Mautly WordPress. All right. And now I have the next question to you. If you create a website right now with your team in WordPress, how much time from the moment you receive the first— so the moment you delegate it into your team to get it done, or you start working on it yourself, how many days does it usually take for you until you can deliver it to the customer? 15 business days, 14. All right, usually 3 months, 4 into 21, 10 days, 14 days. The question was, how many days does it take for you to create the website after you, you handed out the draft to your team or you started working on it? 5 to 45 days, 6 to 8 weeks, 5 days, 30 days, 7 days, 2 weeks. All right, so we have, I would say, 2 to 3 groups, right? We have one group, which is in the, let's say, up to 7 days. Or lower, right? Then we have a group which is around, let's say, 7 to 21 days. And then the third group is a couple of weeks to get it done. So now, I'll tell you what the problem with that is. Problem is the following. People are using social media right now. And they're scrolling through their feed. And they will see a creator, an influencer that will say, hey, This is how I created this website in just 5 minutes by using this magic prompt. Who has seen at least one ad that says something like this or similar? If yes, write yes into the chat. You saw something anywhere. All right. So almost all of you have seen it, right? So what's the problem with this? The problem with— so first of all, it's not entirely true, right? We'll get to that because if you use an AI tool like Lovable or Claude and you build your website with it, it looks nice after you generated it, but you all know, I assume if you have tested it already, you build it, but then when you try to adjust it and make it exactly how the customer needs it, put in their logo, rework one of the sections to be properly connected to the CRM so the leads land there. You have some issues with it. On the one hand, we have social media suggesting your clients, because they are active on those feeds and they read that and they watch those videos, hey, it should take 5 minutes to build a website. However, you know from your experience and because you know how to build websites and you've done it several times in the past, it doesn't actually work like that. So if you actually try to build it like that, it will not be a great website that your clients will be satisfied with. So this creates this weird situation that we're in right now as an agency owner, because on the one hand, the market is changing their expectation. So their expectation is now, it has to be faster, because the whole world is telling me it's supposedly faster. However, you know, from your experience, in reality, it's actually not faster and it's not scalable. Scalability is the issue when you handle like 100+ websites. We have the same issue with our clients. If you try to do that with Lovable or Cloud Code, it's a mess. You can't handle it because it's not in a platform where you can organize it the proper way to work with it as an agency. All right. So this is the problem. All right. And I just wanted to highlight it a little bit. Because I want you to understand that this is the issue that you're facing. It's actually not only about increasing your own productivity. It's actually also about the fact that the market is demanding a quicker way to create it because they learn it from social media, whereas in reality, it's not really that fast yet. All right. So this is the situation we're in. So now how can we solve that? And there's two ways how you can get closer to a better outcome. So one is about how you generally use AI in your workflow. This is the teaching part I want to talk about now next a little bit. And then it's about the tool stack that you're using. And this is the moment where we will dive a little bit into OnePage and how OnePage works and why it's a little bit different. All right. But first, about the workflow. So what the majority— and I'll switch back to my presentation right now. All right. So can you see my screen again? Yes. Okay, great.

Yeah.

So the primary issue when you create something with AI, it's actually not about the question, which tool are you using? How is it this tool or that tool? Is it the magic prompt? No, it's actually only about the the context. So why models? And so I don't know how familiar you are with the usage of AI and what tools you've been using in the past, but generally it's like this. If you look at Claude and you use Claude Cowork, for example, or the Claude Terminal, it doesn't matter, and you have a context window of 1 million tokens, do you know what that actually represents? So what is 1 million tokens actually representing? Or even 200,000 tokens, what it actually represents. So let's say it's 200,000 tokens, right, that you have as a context window. This is actually 600 pages of text in a file with Slack font size 12. So 600 pages of text that you could put in into the context, and AI would still get it and understand what you're talking about. If we're talking a context window of a million plus, we're talking 2,700 pages, I think is the right number that you could put in of context, and AI would still know what you're talking about. And there's a famous test that they did, and this is what has changed and why it changed so much at the end of the last year. It's called the needle in the haystack test. And the way it works is basically that you hide 7 small 6 small secrets in a text, which is hundreds of pages long, and AI needs to find those spots. It's as if you have put in the full Harry Potter and you say, hey, find, and then you ask a very specific question about, I don't know, one sentence that's on page 644, right? And then AI needs to remember that to understand the context. So what this is about is that AI actually gets it. And the new models in this needle in the haystack test, they score 93%. So basically that means if you put in 600 pages of context, it will get every single thing that you put in there as a context. So what that means for you is in order to operate and create websites on scale that have a nice quality and that don't look like AI slop, that is replaceable and that are suited to what your customer needs. You need to have the right process to prepare the content. And for this, you need to collect data. So first of all, you collect obviously the data from clients. So what do they need? How do they want it? But more importantly, you need to create in writing what you actually want to build and how do you build. So every one of you has a philosophy. You've learned something about your industry, about your niche. Doesn't matter whether it's like HVAC or lawn mowers or whatever, whoever you're targeting, you know something about this market and you need to write it down and you need to write it down in a way that AI understands it. And the good thing is AI can help you write it down in the proper way. So AI understands it, but you need to write down this philosophy. So this is how I usually build my website. This is what is important for an HVAC company on their website. I know that because I've built 200 websites before, AI will not know that from the training data. It will create something very generic because this is how it's trained. So you need to create this proper context in order for it to understand where you're going. Once you have that curated data that you need, you can then proceed and start creating great pages. Alright, so this is the first part of the equation. Second part is then that you use that in the right tool stack to create the websites. So the old tools like WordPress have stuck workflows. So this is probably something that you're familiar with if you're building with WordPress. So you have the velocity problem, slow time to launch on every project, exactly how we saw it on the chat right a minute ago, right? 7 days. 7 days is actually pretty nice still, in my opinion, in terms of the delivery time. If we're talking 2 to 3 weeks, and then it's also the question, how many employees are involved in it to get it done, right? Do you need 1 person, 2 people, 3 people? How is it organized? So you have the velocity problem, the effort, every change needs technical work. And if you have WordPress, I guarantee you, you probably had at least 1 time where WordPress updated on its own or an update came in, the whole website was blown apart into pieces. And then you had to rework it again in order to make it work again, right? So then you have the handover problem. If you give it to a client and they start editing it, they might break it. They don't want to, but they might break it. And then also it's not AI ready because when WordPress was built, they didn't have AI in mind. So it just doesn't work there, right? So AI made building dramatically faster and noticeably better, It's 10x faster to build something. You can prompt something and it's real and you can create a senior design quality and it's native in the workflow. It's really good. But what the new AI native players don't solve— Lovable, Bold, v0, VixAI— it doesn't matter which one you pick. The maintenance is hell. Every change goes back through the chat box. That's not how agencies work. Clients want to edit the texts and images, not write prompts. You need to do something with it. There's no real workflow, no team management, no client handover, no CRM, no funnels. You build a page in AuthorNet, platform stops the generation, and you have some stability problems. So self-hosting, GDPR, security support, all on you, right? Looks great in the demo, falls apart in a 50-project agency. So this is the issue, right? And yes, you can make that better. And this is why I wanted to talk about this first. If you curate the context well, you will have better websites from the get-go, so it will get better, right? So whatever tool you use, this is a good approach to get it better. What we did with OnePage, basically, we were like, all right, the market needs an AI that understands the real agency workflow. So it's AI enhanced, but on the other hand, it's also stable and it works. And that's why we built OnePage AI. And I just want to explain to you briefly how it works. So you get a little bit of an understanding. So what makes a difference? So first of all, when you prompt something in OnePageAI, after it's generated, it actually generates you settings. So imagine typing it all in, generating the page for yourself, and then afterwards you have all the controls that you need to adjust it on the go, which is exactly what you need. In order to continue working with it. So you need this hybrid architecture where AI sections can live next to standard sections, how you're used to them from Elementor or whatever you're using on WordPress. And then you need a platform around it. And basically how that then works is you have the Vibe-coded sections that you want to have, which looks amazing because it has some nice animation. However, you can then combine it and merge it with a no-code section that you can edit yourself very easily. And so it's right next to each other and it works fine and you can create some nice stuff, right? So you pick whether you want to go for no-code or live-code. You basically generate what you want, for example, like a hero section for an advertising agency. So it creates it for you. It looks all fancy and nice. However, now, and this is the key thing, once you have it, so once you've generated something. And so this is the example where, for example, it generates you— this is for hotel booking. So it's an overview of room categories, just as an example. So it will generate it. So you see here how the AI is coding it, vibe coding this part of the website. Once it's there, so it just takes a second, as you see, or else we'll just adjust it a little bit and then it's there, but then you can now move over into it. And if you want to maintain it, you actually have all the settings that you need. So you just go in, you click on them, and you make it work. And this is this merger that we did with OnePage and how we help our customers to achieve the— that you, on the one hand, can use the pros of AI because you get a faster generation and you can start doing all those things. On the other hand, you also have the benefit of being able to adjust it all afterwards. And then obviously you create great pages, right, that stand out, that look amazing. This is a page that in the past, probably I would have used a Webflow framework to get it done. It's a long-term job. And now you can create it. And all of it is editable afterwards. And I think this is where we're at, right? And so that's why agencies chose— choose OnePage, because because they see, all right, we can merge these two worlds together a little bit. And now I want to just jump into the next step and just give you a little bit of, uh, one more thing, how you can look at this whole space for the future. And this is not related to OnePage. OnePage is just one way how you could do that. So what we're now launching in two weeks is our new MCP. And I hope, I don't know if everybody knows what an MCP actually is. So I have made this nice graph. To explain you how the future process of an agency in general should look like at some point, in my opinion. So how does it work? First, you start collecting the context. This is the part we talked about in the very beginning. All the context, everything that you have regarding the customer, you collect it and you have these nice organized folders with your whole philosophy behind it. That you can use, then you transfer this data via an MCP from your interface. So you can use it even in Claude, for example, or in ChatGPT, it's connected from there, you push it into the tool that generates the website. And this can be OnePage, but it doesn't have to be OnePage, can be also another tool, you generate the website. And afterwards, you have a way of maintaining it on your own. So if you manage to streamline this process the proper way, you can actually cut the time from briefing to actual first draft that you have generated and that you can use with the client to a few days or a few hours even if you want. So you have a way faster velocity in comparison to building everything from scratch inside of your builder. And my point is the following, and this is how, what I want to give you as my number one advice. Basically, and it doesn't matter whether you decide to use OnePage or you go for another tool. What I would highly advise you not to do though, it's to stick to WordPress because if you do that for long enough, at some point you will face the problem from different directions. So it will be hard to keep up the pricing because people will know from the social media, from all the influence that's coming in, that potentially it's easier and faster to achieve. So you need to find your USP and your value a little bit another way. The second part is it's just, you just waste a lot of time and energy because you can actually achieve this way faster using AI-first workflows that you can edit and the models are evolving. So basically the world is moving in that direction already. So In my opinion, there's not really another way aside of getting AI ready and understanding how to do it properly. And yeah, with that being said, maybe lastly, before I go into the Q&A, and then I'll be happy to talk a little bit more with you guys about it. If you're interested, if you want to try OnePage for yourself, you can find me on LinkedIn and you could write me a message. I'll be very happy to take some time. You can enter your data into this form that I provided you here so we can give you early access to our OnePageAI functionality because the newest features, some of the stuff I've just shown you at the moment, we're like, we gave it to like roughly 400 agencies. They go crazy about it. They love it. And now we're rolling it out in 2 weeks to everybody, but I can give you that access already if you want, so you can check it out for yourself and use it. And we can give you some onboarding and whatever you want. If you just want to test out OnePage in general, you can just also head to onepage.io, sign up, test it out. For this beta feature that I've actually shown you in this presentation, you need to scan that code and enter your data. All right. So now lastly, before we go into Q&A, maybe you can give me like a short feedback. I hope this was already a little bit helpful to you. So maybe write me a short chat if you got some value from what I talked about so far and looking forward to going into it. And Jock, maybe you wanna kick things off.

Yeah, Marcel. So there's a couple questions here. David's asking, doesn't the AI feature of Elementor do something very similar inside WordPress?

So the problem with the Elementor AI functionality, it's actually very limited in the way it works. So we would have to go a little bit down into the details how those features operate. And how much flexibility do you have? So usually there's a trade-off and it works like this. AI can be on rails or not that much on rails. So what it means is that I can make it pretty editable and accessible, usually by limiting its functionality. So for example, if I just give it 5, 6 variants of a website and I say, hey, you can only use these 6 Variants, and then that's it. Then basically AI will be able to do that well, and you can edit it pretty well afterwards. If you want to give it total freedom though, you will have to grant it more flexibility where it's more difficult to use the settings afterwards. And this is a little bit the problem with the WordPress AI generation. It doesn't grant you as much flexibility as you could have, and because of the WordPress infrastructure, it limits you also in the way you can edit and use it afterwards. Yeah, it's as Jeremy wrote, all AI in WordPress is clunky. I would not argue against that statement, to be honest. That's how I see it as well.

So then Brandon's asking, how is OnePage for site speed perspective?

It's actually pretty good. So first of all, we have a pretty good page speed in general on our websites already. And if you use those Vibe-coded stuff, you can actually go and ask AI to optimize your page speed. So we recently did that on a page of the CanWeAnimateIt and the page speed instantly went up a lot. We have a lot of SEO agencies also that are using a one page. So those pages rank as well, which is also a common question that I hear often. Yes. So there's no problem from that point of view. We have, as I said, 4,000 agencies built like hundreds of thousands of websites. So we're safe on that point. And I see James has asked. Yep.

So Eric was asking, does it output naked HTML, CSS, or is it TypeScript? Does it have to be hosted in a one-page platform or do you have access to it outside?

So in our case, it's hosted in the one-page platform. So you don't have access to it outside. So if, for example, if for yourself, it's very important that you export it and you have it on your own servers, then we're not the right fit, which is totally fine. The reason why so many agencies, I think in the end decide to go for one page is that we remove a lot of headache. So the platform, even before we had AI, it was already built with agencies in mind for 7 years, basically. So every workflow in there is adjusted to this need. So the way you duplicate stuff, you edit stuff, you add team members, how easy it is to hand it over to a client with easy changes, all these small tweaks. This is like where it's very helpful. And it comes in pretty handy usually.

Awesome. I think Social Blast Pro is asking a question that probably a lot of people ask. How is this different than the AI One Studio that's built into HighLevel? They've recently rolled something similar out.

Yeah. So the thing is that, and this is the problem of the market, and it's a little bit tied to what I said in the very beginning of this video, everybody, it's super easy to make a video and say, hey, this is my AI, and now you can create a great website. It will take you only 1 minute and it will be so awesome. And it's all— it's true. It's true for the AI from GoHighLevel. It's true for the AI of WordPress. It's true for Claude Code. It's true for OnePage, right? So this is not where the difference is. The difference is how do you operate it afterward? And I think the way I see it, so a product should should speak for itself. In my opinion, if you try it out, I would invite you to try them all out. I think if you're smart, that's what you should do, right? Smart agency owner, try out all the tools. Don't take any word for granted from nobody, not from me also. Try them all out and build your own perspective on it. I've used them all. We do these comparisons. We look at all the builders, right? We have them in parallel. We test them. And I have to say, Many of those, they just don't deliver on the promise. That's the problem. And it comes out in the details. And then you have little friction points in the process and they add up. And after you have the 10th friction point, you're basically done and you're returning to your old system. That's what often happens. And so that's how I view that in general.

Excellent. Now EJ is asking, do you think agencies are over-focusing on AI tools and under-focusing on standardizing their internal processes? Burnt because without clean workflows, AI is just a bad process being done faster.

Yeah, I would agree with that because the problem is that basically if your context is bad, then the output is bad and getting good context is actually a lot of work. So I can give you an example. When I use AI for one page for myself to create a marketing campaign or whatever, right? I use my context that we have drafted. This took us 2 months of work to have it fine-tuned where it should be. And there's a lot of things in there. For example, there's a document in our AI stack where every single feature of OnePage is in a table and is explained why it's there, what's the sense of it, where is it used, right? So the document has over 1,000 lines. So obviously, if I now give it to AI and then I say to AI, look, now we're making a campaign, which is targeting this specific feature, AI will have a full understanding of how this blends in with everything else that we're doing, right? If you have an— and let's take an HVAC, right? So say an HVAC company is your client, you want to create this website for them, AI will not know what you know. So you have proprietary data. The problem of most agency owners, though, is that unfortunately, it's primarily exists in their brain and not in the written format, which is then the problem because AI won't understand it. So if you take in the time to basically write down those learnings, okay, I know that HVAC companies in this area, and there's also geographical aspects, right? So I know that in Denver, Colorado, this is important. This is how those websites need to be structured because I know from experience this is the best conversion, and then you properly engineer it. Then your output will be better. And then it doesn't matter which tool you pick, it will be better. I think people are over-engineering the agentic stack and thinking they need this crazy agent orchestration, where in fact, if they just would optimize their context by 100%, then it would work way better already.

Brandon was saying, I was checking your pricing, I was wondering if the page limit is per website or total. Standard plan is 2 websites, 50 pages, or is it 50 pages per website?

So what we call a project is like a URL that is connected, right? So on scale, you can think that it's basically around $8 per website per month on scale, right? So let's say you have 20 websites with us, and those 20 websites, we will charge you 20 times $8. This is like how it looks on scale if you have a lot of clients, because at some point you reach the highest tier and then basically it's called volume-based, right? We have two models, what, how agencies usually do that. In our case, some use our affiliate link and simply send it out to their client and then build it in the client's account. So it's actually very successful. I thought that people would rather want to do it more white label-ish, but it seems to work fine. The other model that we just see often is that the people do basically white label and then often they just charge people some type of fee. To maintain the website and to do proper small adjustments. And the cool thing is that this is again, the big difference between let's say OnePage and WordPress. If you do a maintenance fee on WordPress, this might backfire on you because WordPress is very clunky and it can produce a lot of issues if somebody wants to make a change. OnePage, however, is not— it's not the case. So those maintenance fees, usually there's a huge profit margin on them.

Excellent.

Yes.

Rashid was asking, how's this better or different than Lovable or GHLA Studio, Gemini Backend, et cetera?

Yeah. So I think the key aspect is the controllability. So what it does is so you will be able to generate some things and it will be controllable. And it's not so Lovable claims that they have controls, right? As a matter of fact, What you can control usually is the color, the font, and maybe like an image that you replace. That's basically the control. In our case, you can control it all. So let's say there's a moving wall of logos. You will be able to control how fast it moves, which direction it moves, what type of logos are in there. You will be able to add animations to it, all of it. And you can ask AI to add those controls for you. Why is it not possible in Lobzobol's case? I don't know for sure because I'm not, I don't see their dev team, right? But my guess would be that because they're more of a generic solution, same as Gemini and all these others, they need to basically serve a lot of use cases. So if I want to create an application, like full software as a service needs to work as well. In our case, slightly different because we only create websites that will be websites and funnels. So We are able to give the AI a little bit more guardrails and move it into the right direction.

So Ron McCabe asked, website builders tend to fail with SEO. How does OnePage compare to WordPress in that front?

WordPress always was, is because it's historically WordPress is very strong on SEO. So look, what I can tell you is the following that we have agencies that do only SEO. So this is their primary USP. This is how they go to market. And they built all their websites on OnePage and they switched from WordPress. And so I've asked them, I was like, hey, how is it? How is it in terms of like, how it, how does it rank? And they all confirmed to me that it's ranking very well. We have a lot of SEO settings inside of OnePage. We actually rolled out a huge update on that 6 months ago where you can all the things that you are used to from other platforms. It should be possible inside of one page. If you have something that you're missing, you feel free to reach out to me, but I'm not aware of anything. I think in our case, we have it all at this point.

So title tags, H1 tags, meta descriptions, interlinking, and then site speed optimization.

That's all possible.

Yeah, XML sitemaps, the whole nine yards.

And I just read about what Mihai wrote. So the hosting service, actually, so the US is served by US hosting service. So it's not correct. In the US.

Michael's saying, I think the workflow is great. Question, if we generated 40 websites for the same industry turnover, right? We give that context to OnePage. Obviously you want to develop your framework, guys, right? This is what our websites look like. Logos here, phone numbers there. These are the call to actions. These are the lead magnets that we use. These are the city pages and the service pages. However you structure that. His question is using OnePage, will they all look identical? Or will it give the variation based on the brand guide or details about that particular client and their images, their color scheme, their logo, their—

Yeah, so actually it will vary. AI is something you can't control AI completely. It's impossible. Nobody can. That's why whatever tool you pick, whether it's Lovable or Claude, you will read on Reddit that people will be writing, yeah, AI did something weird and something happened that I didn't expect at all. It's like a wild horse. That you're trying to tame a little and take a ride, but it's not entirely possible. And this is true for every platform and it includes OnePage. So also in our case, it might happen, prompt something and it comes out different, right? So how much can you influence it? Actually a lot. And it comes down, in my opinion, to its hybrid architecture. So the key thing is that if you prompt something and yes, it might be, it looks similar as every AI, all are based on the same models. The majority of them are based on the same models. So there will be some similarities. So then it comes to the question, how can you take this nice draft, which is 90% great or 80% great and make it 100% great and distinguish it 100% from the others? And this is, I think, where the question comes into play. Can you adjust it afterwards, drag and drop in a no-code way? If you only have prompting as your way of solving this, I think it's problematic. So what I see our clients do is they go and, for example, they will typecode a hero section that looks amazing, has a crazy animation, I don't know, something happening in the background, looks really fancy, right? But then the second section, for example, where it's the advantages, they use the one that they always use because they know this is how it works and they use it from the no-code, right? So this is where you merge a little bit. And I think this is the best workflow. At the moment. It might change in the future when models get even smarter, but right now they're not smart enough yet. So I think you need a little bit of a hybrid approach to get a great website.

Super good. And great questions, guys. Keep them coming. We'll do our best to answer all of these and nothing's off limits. You can see Mark Del Sol on. So Mike asked a great question, and I think this is super relevant for local, which is ADA compliance and now also cookie compliance. Do you have that built into the platform? How do you address for that?

So cookie compliance, all of it is there. So you have a fully customizable way of setting it up. Also, in addition, you don't need to use it from our platform. You can actually use an external one by using custom code. So there's a custom code functionality in OnePage and you can insert stuff, for example, a cookie widget the way you want it, right? Because you are used to a certain provider, you want it a very specific way. It's no problem. It's possible. And then accessibility, yes, we have. So first of all, we have a bunch of templates already that are 100% accessible from the get-go inside the platform. I think there's 80, 85 to 90% of all the other features are there. I think there's 5 to 10% of smaller requests that we're still working on, but I compare us to other platforms that are claiming that they're fully ready and I can tell you they're not. And I think this is just a part of the game and we're working on it actively. And feel free also, if this is interesting to you, feel free to reach out to us. There's two ways. One is basically that you book one of these calls, right? Second way is if you create a free account of OnePage, so you can just go to onepage.io and create a free account. It's not a trial, so no credit card, no nothing. So we really want you to only buy if you're convinced, so you can test it out completely for free, right? And you get access to the beta app by us also for free. And then only if you like it, you buy. And then there on the, in the right corner, you will find our intercom chat widget and you can get directly connected to our team.

David, Daniel's got a good question. He says the good thing about WordPress is portability and plugins, right? Everybody already understands WordPress. They're happy that you're in WordPress and all of the plugins that you can just load on. Can you talk about how that works in your system?

Yeah, obviously it's different. So WordPress, yes. So there's pros and cons to WordPress and it's correct. This is a pro. You have plugins, you have add-ons, people understand it because they heard of it, right? And then you have the disadvantages, which is speed of implementation, quality of the website that you actually can create with it, clunkiness, problems in the maintenance and all the downsides, right? And it's a trade-off. So if you go to a paid platform, it will not be like WordPress because in our case, you can't just plug in a plugin. Doesn't work that way, right? So you have to operate with what the platform offers. The thing is though, that my observation is that in the majority of use cases, the page, you don't need the majority of the plugins that WordPress offers. 95% is not necessary. The 5% that you need, they're built into the platform. And then you have the upside of having a very reliable, stable platform that you can operate from. But again, and this is the, If you look at the trends, so WordPress, from the technological point of view, it's just not built the way that it will be easy to go AI native. They might make it, but it will take a lot of time. I think, as an agency owner, the window of opportunity for you though, and again, it doesn't matter whether you use OnePage or not. So I'm representing OnePage because I want you guys to use OnePage because I believe in it. I think it's a great tool for you, but you don't have to. You can use another tool, but I would really advise you not to do is to just sit it out and be like, oh, I'll just continue using WordPress. Let's just wait. The wind will blow over and then I can chill out and create it the way I used to do. I don't think it's a good strategy, to be honest. That's how I view it, at least.

Super good. I think great comment here from Jose. He says, don't miss what Marcel went over about context. That's the entire game. When you're creating predictable designs and functionality.

Yes.

That's one of the keys. Adam says, we're working on building our own website development agent workflow process based on our desired criteria. We're testing out building out landing pages and PPC for a couple of our internal client projects with the result of scaling in mind. Adam, I'm not sure that's a question. Maybe that was a comment. Anything you want to add there, Marcel?

Yeah, good luck. Sounds good. It's also a way to go. I think it depends a lot on your technical capabilities, right? If you're a very technical person and you want to build something for yourself, this is the time. AI is making many things possible. If you're looking for a solution where a lot of things are already in the right place, I think you might look in another direction. That's how I see it.

Jacob Sinner is asking, does your model tap into RLLM API? Or tokens managed directly through OnePage? Like, how does that work on the backend for AI integration?

Yeah, it works both ways. So the way it's gonna work is that you can plug it in and use the— so you can use the MCP API. This is what it's for. And basically operate from your Claude terminal, your own AI terminal, and then basically just push it to OnePage to create a website. We also have a chat. Inside of OnePage though, where you can operate it and then you basically buy tokens. So it works a similar way. So if you're familiar with the concept because you know it from all those AI LLM providers, you can also buy those tokens inside of OnePage and use it there, or you can go back and use it directly in the LLM and it's basically your choice.

Brandon's asking if it has to be on your server, which it sounds like it is, what sort of security do you guys have in place for the environment?

Yeah, so we have a huge security system, of course, on it. So first of all, maybe about that. So we haven't been down in years, and we're like very reliable. We have a whole stack, we do penetration tests on a regular basis. The last penetration testing took place, I think, 4 weeks ago. So it happens on a regular basis. From that standpoint, our platform is very high level of security. I can't even see the CRM data from you guys. So for example, if you have a CRM, inside of OnePage, it's encrypted. I can't access it. It's impossible for me. I can't even see it. So it's really built also from an architectural standpoint in a way that makes it very difficult to breach. And yeah, that's how we're organized.

So there's another question here from Enelo, and he says, is OnePage a page builder or a new CMS?

It's both. So certain CMS functionalities that we're still missing and that we're bringing on in Q3, but already people are building blog posts and stuff like that, right? So that kind of works. And it is in essence a page builder that is moved into a platform. So today, OnePage is much more than just a page builder because you have all these things. You can create funnels, you have GDPR, you have the CRM system, you have the SEO setting. There's all these things that we've built around it. Just to make life easier for agency owners. This is the whole idea behind it. Huh?

Yep. He says, the number one reason we don't rely on AI web builder is the code. For example, Lovable can't be fully read by AI search. ChatGPT, such as GPT, Google allowed search to be read in JavaScript. What code does OnePage use?

Yeah, so we're like 100%. So in Lovable's case. They just released today, I think, that it's now more readable. In our case, it is already readable. So the whole output basically is generated in a way that AI can read it very well. There's no problems here in terms of SSR. This works well. So you don't have the problem that you would have or did have until today in Loggable and many of the other vibe coding tools that have very bad visibility indeed in SCP.

David Daniels says, can you talk a little bit more about the MCP? And how that works?

Yes, I can. It's pretty simple. I don't know how familiar you are with the concept of an MCP, but in general, how it works is that if you are in your LLM, and so this can be ChatGPT, or this can be Claude, or this can be Gemini, right? You have connectors, and via these connectors, you can access specific things in other tools. So there's connectors where you, for example, connect, I don't know, your calendar or other data points, which are connectors that help to pull data into the LLM. And then there's connectors that allow you to push data out of the LLM into another tool. And this is exactly the way the OnePage MCP works. So basically inside of Claude, you could have a chat with Claude, for example, or ChatGPT and be like, hey, Here is the page I want to build, right? You do this whole thing, you create it all, and then in the end, when the prompt's ready and it's clear, you're like, hey, and now build it with OnePage, please. And then it goes over and it gets built in OnePage. That's how it works.

Eric just wanted to circle back to this. He says, partially answered my question. Website code-wise, is it HTML or CSS? We talked about that briefly. Also, if it's all-inclusive, can the AI manage DNS, clear cache, add records? Like handling both website and the technical hosting side of things?

Yeah, our platform does it, right? So the way it works is basically inside of one page, you have a domain connection assistant, you connect the domain, you have the possibility to do all the DNS settings, everything that is related to that. And then inside this container that is then existing for this website, you have two ways of using it. Either you use the AI to build 5 coded sections, and/or you use our regular editor and create with it. So both ways are fine.

Just trying to scroll down here, make sure I didn't miss any questions. There's a lot of questions. So thank you guys for engaging in this way. Some people just kind of frustrated that there was going to be more around why coding directly websites and the benefits of that. And so this is a different conversation, right? This is his platform and kind of how he's doing it. I can tell you there are thousands of agencies that build in this platform because of the scalability of it. But of course there's another path. James Hirsch, like you're showing, like you can vibe code this stuff and you can develop your own thing in Cloud Code or whatever.

Yeah. And I just want to emphasize that. So yeah, of course I'm representing the way we think is the, is a great way to build. But I think in general, if you want to vibe code and use one of the big LLM providers or in general vibe code a page, I think It is the right way to go. However, what I would suggest you do is really try it out and get to that point where you have this vibe-coded website and then figure out how to operate it. For sure, it's the right timing to do that and to educate yourself.

David's got a question here. What about the other things that you would do, like in WordPress and other CMSs, like blog posting, for example? How does platform work for that?

Yeah, it works well. So the blog posting, as I said, so we are now building out this specific blog-related feature, which is coming in Q3, where it's even easier to do it at the moment, basically do it. People do it as well. So you recreate a page, so you have a subpage that you create as a blog post, and this is where you put in the articles. So it's like a workaround how you get there. It's not exactly, it doesn't work exactly the same way how it does in WordPress right now. but it works perfectly fine. So you can achieve great articles and a great ranking with it. And that's how our customers do it.

I'm scanning questions. I think a lot of these have already been answered.

Yeah.

But Ron's asking, what about redundancy and backup for OnePage? Seems like we give control up in this scenario.

Yes, you do. In the end, you will have to trust us that we handle this part of the equation. We have obviously cloud engineers that their job is to maintain the platform security. And I just want to maybe emphasize, while in the US there's hundreds of agencies using us, whereas in Europe there's thousands of it already. So we're not a new platform that's basically new to the market. It's very well established. So there's a high level of trust that exists already for the security aspects of our platform. So I wouldn't worry about that. This is all in place in a proper way.

Jeremy Littlejohn says, can you rank any site with low search volume? Seems like a great product, but does it rank in competitive markets? Meta tags are cool, but if Google— I feel like we did answer this, and it's like, I do feel like we addressed it. How about schema? Anything for populating schema across the pages and the website?

Yeah, just one quick— so, Ron wrote, that is not really an answer. Trust us, really? Ronald, I can obviously provide you with all the information, how the security of our company is structured and no problem at all. We're very transparent. It works the same way as in every other big website building platform. Feel free to send me your questions. Of course.

There's an ISP provider this morning that lost 1,000 websites because they didn't have a proper redundancy plan.

Yeah, of course. We have a fully duplicated server infrastructure, so we have a fallback. That we can directly fall back on. Databases are duplicated, so there's a full scope behind it. But yeah, you're right. It's super important. So I didn't want to play it down.

It's something—

so I come from what I did before this was data security.

Yeah.

In fact, I was involved when the World Trade Center happened. So out of 186 businesses failed in the World Trade Center due to data loss. And what I've seen a lot in the agency world is people don't think about backup, and I've seen a lot of people burned. So that's why I'm asking that question. So we— and you may not have it, but would you produce a kind of a plan that you guys have for your fault tolerance and backup and redundancy? Do you have a third-party provider that you work with or could work with? To provide external backups if you have a failure?

Yeah. So first of all, yes, feel free to reach out to me afterwards. I don't have any problem in answering those questions because obviously, as you can imagine, and also the European customers, when it comes to data security in Europe, I think it's partially even more harsh than in the US. So it's very harsh how we're being judged.

I would actually agree with that.

Yeah. So I'm used to it. So we really have a lot of focus on it. In general. Yeah, feel free to ask me afterwards. I'll send you all the detail and let me know what you think.

Thanks for your feedback, Ron. Thanks for that question. Mahaya is saying, is there a staging/web dev process that you can see the site in the staging format before going live like we do with a lot of our hosting platforms?

Yes, it is. Yes, that's possible. So you adjust the website and then you need to publish the changes, right? That's the way it works. Also, there's a version history which comes in very handy if you want to roll back on the change that you just did. So you basically have a version history that is a couple of iterations long. So whenever you made something wrong, you just roll back to the previous version. And this is like a good way of having a little bit like of a backup kind of, if you want.

Good engagement, guys. Adam's asking, what about global changes across multiple websites? Is there anything for that? If you wanted to change the call to action button across 50 websites. Can you talk about that?

Yeah, it's actually called global section in our platform. It's exactly this. So there's a section that basically you can have, for example, let's say you have a franchise and there's the footer and the footer is the same on all the pages. Then you could use a global section and then basically you make the change on the primary site where the global section was created. And it automatically is applied to all the pages that have this section in place. This is how it works.

Okay. But is there something like that would go across your network of sites as well?

Okay. Yes. So the, it works on across projects as well. So you could use the global section basically everywhere if you want.

Is there anything along the lines of custom values you can set up on the backend, like where you would change company name, change top 3 services or main city and have it apply across the website. Is there anything like that in the backend?

This would rather work over the chat. So basically you would put it in the chat or you would use the MCP to put it in the chat if it's about the generation of the website. So not really in the settings. No.

Okay. Philip's asking, do you have any examples of sites that rank well that you could showcase?

Yeah, I can actually send you a list afterwards if you want. So I don't have them here right now because I don't have them off the top of my head, but I can send you some of those examples if you're interested.

Don's asking, is it possible to take one of our existing WordPress sites and clone it on OnePage? And then can we use one of those as contacts to develop the framework?

Kind of, yes. The easiest way to do it would be, let's say you use, so for example, it's very easy to fetch all the content of this website with Claude or ChatGPT, right? So you make some screenshots, you provide the URL, and basically you take all this context. Then you use this context when generating the new page inside of OnePage. You can even make a screenshot of the old website part. So for example, let's say you have a nice hero section, you make a screenshot, you can add that screenshot into the chat and say, hey, build it like this, but make it nice. And it will do that. So that works.

Probably a good approach, right? If you've got your entire framework built on WordPress, Marcel's not asking you to wholesale change your stuff, right? Get the free account, play around with it, test it out, see how you like it. If it's a fit, you know, like, oh, I can really see how this is going to streamline our process.

Great. Right.

And I think that's the best place to start with these types of platforms.

That's exactly how I see it. In the end, I usually also wouldn't recommend for people to take all the websites and move them over. Some clients do that, but just start with one project. Do one project inside of the new, and it doesn't matter again. And I just want to highlight this because I'm not I don't want to pitch OnePage. I just want to understand, do it with another platform. Just switch from WordPress, do it with another platform and see the difference in your process. And then basically decide afterwards, all right, is there a value for me when I switch this process? Because I can streamline it, I can increase the quality. And actually it has a lot of benefits because in the end you increase your bottom line, right? If you manage to reduce the friction and the time. You just increase your bottom line, which is very profitable for your business.

David's asking, can you take a design that you come out with, let's say in Claude Code or Claude Design or Manus, and say, I like this concept, and then feed it to, to OnePage? Yes. Through the MCT or some other mechanism?

Yeah, even through the regular chat. So you can just make the picture of it and just put it in and say, I like that, build it like this. So what I would recommend— it works. So you can make a screenshot of a full page and put it in and say, build it, and it will build it. However, the way I suggest you would do it is you go section by section. So you make a screenshot of the hero section, you paste it, and then you go into the next part and paste it. Because AI, if you give it too much context, there's context rot. So AI will stop understanding you well. So the page can be way better if you take a sequential approach prompting it. This is true, by the way, not only for OnePage, but for any vibe coding platform. So in general, when you have complex pages that are being generated, you have a very specific thing in mind. It's easier if you go section by section, and then basically every section you rely again on the section you did before as a context. And it gets there. You can get great outcomes because of it.

Eric's asking, how is copywriting handled? Can OnePage do real keyword research or is it mainly the design and then you'd use some other platform for the copy?

Usually I think you can do some very simple copy in OnePage as this AI copywriter. However, I would suggest to use an LLM for this. They're built for this. I think that we shine more in building the website and less in creating the copy. This is not our or key USB.

Chris is asking, can I have one page copy entire site? For instance, I want to convert my client's Wix website with 100 blog posts into one page site.

Yeah, not so simple. I think you would have to do some work and recreate, unfortunately. Yeah, it would be great if there would be a magic button that kind of moves it all over. As soon as it's technically possible in the world of AI, I'll have it, but not now yet. So. Yes, there's some work. That's why I would probably suggest to start with one website and then basically if you really like the platform, you can then transition other stuff to there as well. And we can even help you.

Eric's asking if we could see a preview of a site that's built by OnePage. I know you said you'd send over some examples, but do you have one handy that you could pull up real quick?

Yeah, I have a few pages that are built with OnePage. So let me just show you some pages. Just pull some up. All right. So for example, this is like a page, like let's say you want to make something fancy, right? So you can do obviously nice designs like that. Here you have a motion design that is working. You can have these effects here that you create animations when you do something. So here's like a ticket that I created. This is like a Vibe-coded example. So the majority of the, many of these elements here are Vibe-coded. So we use the vibe coding feature in order to produce that. And then we merged it with other elements on the page. So some ideas how it could look, an agenda, and then you can clean your past. So this event doesn't exist, by the way, it's just an example how it could look, right? Or here's this page that I already had in the video as well. This is for a performance marketing agency. So it's a little bit simpler. You use here the Bento grid, which is a design trend that many people really like. You have some moving wall, which is a little bit skewed, so it looks a little bit different. Another bento grid, the steps, case studies with this folding animation where you could put in the images. Here's some examples how a testimonial wall could work from different perspectives. Then I have here, this is an ink iron needle tattoo page, and this was also AI generated, the whole calculator here that was created with OnePage AI. And this is funny. So this is AI, the vibe coded. This is a regular builder. So this is the regular element that we're just using and we just pasted it in there. Right. And this is the event I do in Germany, for example, this is a regular page, which is not using AI, but it still has nice functionality to build whatever you want. Here's another fancy one if you want to go that route. Where you build some fancy stuff, but it doesn't have to be that fancy. It can be regular and it still will look nice. You have the flexibility of how aesthetically you want it in comparison to how practically you want it. Both works.

Awesome. Joshua Nelson is asking, is this mainly for independent page design? What if you were to come to it with a prebuilt PSD mockup or a Figma? To try and build from a concept?

Yeah, so there's no direct Figma integration, so you can't build it from Figma directly. However, what you could do is you could take a picture of it and then basically, as I suggested, go section by section. Yeah. And it will work well.

Paul's asking if you can talk briefly about the pricing.

Yeah. So as I said in the beginning, on scale, basically you can say It's $8 per website per month. So this is the number that I usually say for agency owners, because usually you will have more than just the number of websites that we have in our standard tiers. So it starts with $20 to $20, and it jumps to $50 if you do have a few more pages. However, if you then go on scale, at some point, basically breaks down to $8 per website per month.

James Hurst is asking, is this built on AWS or Google or something else? Google Cloud, Mario? Does it have revisions? I'm guessing it does not connect to GitHub. Sidebar here. Is there a site export feature if the client were to be like, hey, I'm taking this, I need to go elsewhere?

No, that's not— so you can export the content, but you can't export it in the way a WordPress export would work or a server export would work because in the end it's in a platform. So. Basically, you make that choice to go into the platform and keep it there, which, yes, is one of the trade-offs you're doing, but then it has upsides and it has downsides. That's the way it's organized.

I think that I've never seen so many questions and then some hard questions in one of these live workshops. So guys, thanks for engaging. Marcel, thanks for being willing to walk us through the platform, how you approach web builds. Does anyone have a deep question they want to ask? Go ahead, Marcel.

Yeah, I just wanted to say also thanks everybody for coming here and paying so much attention, and I hope you took some value out of it. So for me, as I said, I just want to highlight it doesn't matter to me if you will become a OnePage user or not. I'm very happy if you will, because I think it's a great platform, but if you're not, I just hope you took some value out of this. And if you want to ask me any questions regarding AI or vibe coding or anything in that direction, we can talk about it as well. It doesn't have to be related to the OnePage platform, so feel free to ask whatever you want.

Yeah. Iman's asking, I think this has been addressed 5 or 6 times and this is the central point, right? It's like a lot of AI website builders look amazing in a 5-minute demo, right? But then when you try and get it and modify it and edit it, it doesn't work. And you wind up stuck with something that's only 80% of the way there, maybe 90%. And that's the brand promise for Marcel. It is that they've got the AI piece that can create the sections and make it look great, but then also the functionality to go in and modify it and make the adjustments and tweak it to final completion.

So basically, so if I were in OnePage right now, right? So here's basically my chat and here I can attach files and put images in and then it would build me here in this, my AI-generated section, right? And then it merges. So here I have the AI-generated section with controls and here I have my regular sections, which I can do where I can put in whatever I want. And I also, it's rebuilt and it looks nice and I just add it to the page. And I have it here. And so this is the key thing. So here in this section, I'll go and produce code, right? And I say, hey, create me a header section for event restaurant in, I don't know, Denver. And I tell him to start doing that. And so he will begin building that for me in this upper section here. I can even close it while he's building it, continue working here, editing my regular sections, going in and adding more sections, like, all right, I need, I don't know, an FAQ. And this is the point, an FAQ, it doesn't have to be crazy fancy usually. It has a certain logic to it. You can probably just use one of these sections that we have and just fine tune it. And then you merge it with what is being built here, right? So he's now creating this fancy hero section. I can get back to it in a minute when he's done, because the vibe coding part always takes longer than the regular sections. So he'll be building that for us. And then afterwards I can take a look and then I can merge it. And I think this is the key thing that I'm trying to explain, that if you merge it, then you actually have a lot of nice pros of it because you can do it both together.

Awesome. I think we'll make this the last question because this has gone a little bit long, but Eric's saying, for the file upload limit under the Forms and Funnels add-ons, it says 10 gigabytes. Is that for on a per website basis or for the entire account?

So this is the Forms and Funnels add-on, and this is about files that people upload. So let's say you have, I don't know, a recruiting funnel, and then people need to upload their CVs. Then that this is limited to 10 gigabytes. I think I haven't seen a single client in the history of OnePage that ever hit that quota. So I think you're good.

All right, Marcel, this has been great. Guys, if you have more questions, Marcel, what's the best way for them to reach out with you, connect, ask further questions?

Yeah, so ideally write me on LinkedIn or write me on Instagram. You can find me on both platforms. Just tap me. I can, maybe I'll just share the link to my LinkedIn profile real quick in the chat. So. You have it and then you can write me a message. I'll be very happy to connect, to connect you to my team also. And I have 9 million clients, Roden, Eric, in this case, the final post limit might be the issue for you. Reach out to me and we'll figure it out. I hope you took some value out of this and it was insightful for you. I thank you very much for your attention and yeah, hope to see you all in July. Come to the next event from Josh. These events are also I think, uh, you're missing out if you're not coming. I hope to meet you there in person. We'll be there with a booth and I hope to engage with you guys and meet you in person. It would be great.

I would say at the end of the day, if you've come this far through watching this whole session, it doesn't take you much time to go to onepage.ai, apply for the AI beta and check it out. He's not charging you anything to check it out. Test it out, right? Just like any of the tools, test it out. Either you fall in love with it and you can see how it's going to streamline your process. Or you don't. And now you've got another tool in your tool bag that you can try out and test out and kind of iterate with. Marcel, thank you so much. Eric, the event is going to be in July. I'll send you a separate message with the details on that.

Great. Send. All right. Thank you all, guys. It was great seeing you. Have a great day.

Thanks, everybody.

And I wish you lots of success with your agency. So talk to you soon. Bye-bye.

Thanks, Marcel.