7 Dec 2025 · 49 min
Emily Morse and Anderson Cowan talk sex and dating after divorce, swapping stories about relationships and what changes when you're back in the game.
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Look into his eyes. They're the eyes of a man obsessed by sex. Eyes that mock our sacred institutions. Bedroom eyes, they call them, in a bygone day. Hey, Emily, you got a boyfriend?
Cause my man E here, he just.
Got his heart broken. He thinks you're kind of cute.
A girl's gotta have her standard. Oh, my.
The women know about shrinkage. Isn't it common knowledge?
What do you mean? Like laundry? It shrinks. Can we not talk about sex so much?
Are you kidding me?
Oh, my God. I feel. Sure, being bad feels pretty good.
You know, Emily's not the kind of girl you just play with.
You're listening to Sex with Emily. We're talking about sex, relationships, and everything in between. For more information, go to sex with emily.com. you can check out my podcast. You should just subscribe. It's so easy. Two shows a week. Then you never have to worry about it again. There they are. They just show up wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, Anderson.
Hey, how are you? Is this working?
Is it working? Are you working? Are you here?
Yeah. There it is.
What's going on?
Looking good. Hey, how are you?
I'm great.
Welcome back. I missed you.
I missed you, too. Yeah, it was amazing to be in San Francisco.
You're up in the. Were you in the Castro district? Where were we?
I was all over the TV show. I shot a TV show.
They don't shoot TV shows. They do.
It was the one TV show that they shoot in San Francisco and they invited me to be on it.
What's it called? Is it called hey, hey?
It's called hey, what's up?
What's it called?
It's called Drinking with Benefits.
Ooh.
And it's a new show and it was one of the pilot episodes. They're doing eight episodes. And the whole premise is that you come someone. They have a celebrity bartender.
Oh, yeah. I remember hearing about this.
And you come out with a cause that you support, and then you raise money for that charity. And then, you know, he taught me how to Bartend.
Who was a celebrity bartender?
Me. I was a celebrity bartender.
Oh, you were.
That's why I laughed when I said that.
Wait, after I said celebrity bartender, I paused. I knew you would make that joke. And you waited too long.
Did you know, dude?
Yes. Because I don't think of myself as a celebrity. So for me, saying that when Mike.
Catherwood is on Dancing with the Stars and he's the star, I'm like, oh, you can dance really good. You could be like one of the teachers. He's like, no, I'm. I'm the star. I'm like, what kind of a world are we living in?
Right? Exactly. Dude, I get it. I mean, I don't think of myself. No, I do not think.
You don't. You don't have that air at all.
I really don't. So that's why I think it's for me. So my friends were even like, I'm like, come to this bar. Cause it's an open party after. So they opened it up to everyone. It was like open to the city, open to my friends. And I'm like, well, I'm doing this bartending. Like, what do you mean? I'm like, okay, celebrity. Like, I'm uncomfortable saying it.
Yeah.
Anyway, so it's for charity and I get Pets in need because as I told you, I'm adopting a dog. And Pepe is probably not my dog. No, no, he's awesome. But it turns out that he needs a little more time there in the shelter. But I looked at some other dogs.
Okay.
So the point is, my friend Ron's Pets in Need. Funny enough, it's the only no kill shelter.
You just said a bunch of words.
Pets in need. Your friend Ron, my best friend Charlotte.
Okay.
She's the vet, she runs. She runs the whole organization. It's a no kill shelter, as you'd appreciate.
I like that. However, I get my dogs from kill shelters because I know that they're going to be.
Oh, yeah, that's even better.
You know what I mean?
God, you're right. I should do that instead.
Yeah, it's tough though, because it's essentially you're. You're allowing a bunch to go to the death camps. You know what I mean? Like you, you can only pick one, probably. And like every dog, you don't pick, they.
But they take the animals from the shelters that are going to kill them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one you went to.
Yes, yes. So they curate.
No, I cut out the middleman. I just grabbed my dog.
That's not A bad idea to think that Stanley. Almost like I can't even say it.
Yeah. Stanley was scheduled to be killed the morning after I picked him up. And I didn't know that until after I signed the papers. So it wasn't like they were trying to sell me on him. They were just like, oh, look at this. He was scheduled for tomorrow morning, 9am yeah.
This kills me. So. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe that 23 million households a year acquired animal and like 4 to 6 million die. So, like, don't acquire it.
Wait a minute. Wait, what?
That 20. They. They buy dogs or they buy cats. 23 million houses. Yeah.
Yeah.
From a store.
I got four animals in my house, three dogs, one cat, and all of them are. Were rescued from. Well, one was bought from a store. His name is also Pepe, but he went to, like, a very troubled woman and he was rescued from that woman.
Well, that makes sense. Rescue is. Rescue is rescue. So that was fun.
This is not sexy talk, though.
Well, I. Well, here's some sexy talks. Peanut butter. So I taught. No, I.
That is inappropriate.
You and Mike love talking. Mike Atherbert love talking about.
True. I walked in on my.
When I was in junior high, vagina. Don't put anything in your vagina but lube and a penis.
When I was high. My girlfriend at the time, her name was Jenny, she had a cousin who was a little bit off. She was very pretty, but she was a little bit off. And they had a Great Dane and her cousin was over visiting Jenny's family, and I walked into the bathroom and the Great Dane was going down on the cousin.
I was gonna say, no, this is an urban legend. You really saw this?
I saw it happening and it was very upsetting. And I walked out and I didn't say a word. I said a word to no one, not even Jenny.
Oh, my God. How old were you?
13? 14?
Yeah. This isn't really sexy either, though.
To be honest, it kind of worked out for me because I had an issue with, like, the hot cousin coming over all the time because I thought Jenny was hot and she was like, my first real girlfriend. But the hot cousin was distractingly hot, and she instantly became way less hot right afterwards.
That's good. I'm glad it didn't turn you on and you didn't start getting, like, a dog fest.
That'd be really weird.
That'd be really weird. Yeah. That's hilarious. No, I. No peanut butter, but okay. So then they interview me about, like, why the shelter. I care for the Shelter. And then the guy, Mark DeVito. He's awesome. He owns a bunch of bars in San Francisco. And I had him beat a dog. We made the Salty Dog. The name of the drink. It was like Pepe goes to Poland or something. And he taught me how to. Have you ever bartended? No, I was a cocktail waitress. Bartend.
I've dated a lot of bartenders. Never bartended.
Really?
Yeah.
What's that like? It's tough, don't you think they're sleeping with everyone.
It goes like. It's kind of like strippers, prostitute strippers, bartenders, hairdressers. That's kind of the order.
Well, no, no hair. I see the people who work late in the night. They what? That's who you always dated?
Well, no, that. That's like the trouble categories, like you don't want to obviously date a prostitute. Stripper is right below that. And then it goes bartender and then it goes hairdresser or masseuse.
What's wrong with hairdresser? And bartender? What's wrong with hairdresser? And all my friends date masseuses in San Francisco. My guy.
A lot of hairdressers, no offense to anyone listening, but a lot of them like to, you know, play the field. And, you know, they have.
Hey, I hear you.
I've never had a hairdresser who. I've never banked every single hairdresser I've ever had, except for like when I'm short.
Gay. Really? I guess. You're a dude. Yeah, right. That's. No, you wouldn't. You want the classier wife?
Sometimes if I'm in a piece, you want the classier.
You want the classier, non desirable hairstylists. Not the ones that surprise me.
I still go back to some of my hairstylists when I was a kid. And yeah, they're like. They're old bang flames.
That's hilarious. Yeah, I know. People. Guys always sleep with their, like, people who work. Yeah. And I always drag my friend. I'm like, which woman from the service industry you're banging now? He's like a successful Internet. Right? And he's always like, I'm serious. They're like hairdresser. Right.
The best is a bartender or a yoga teacher.
What? Yoga teacher?
They make you do work, though. Come on, let's get them. Get on a little ball and do some yoga.
No, but I feel like all my guy friends are dating mischievous. Okay.
So anyway, bartender, who makes you a drink and then gives you a massage.
But I feel like the same way for guys like Guys who work in bars too, I always think. I mean, in college I was a cocktail waitress. That's fine. The bartenders. But they're just there late. They're getting numbers.
They're there. No judgment.
Well, they're there to get laid. I mean, they have to get. There's a lot of opportunity.
Guys in college, anywhere that they are.
That I stopped with the bartender, My boyfriend was the bartender. I hear you. I was a cocktail waitress. Not to get laid, but I did get laid because of that. Would you say that in college?
Yeah, yeah.
They exist to get laid.
You see that? They're there to get laid. Any, any guy in college and no matter where he could be at the dmv, it could be to get laid.
Okay. I don't mean they're there to get laid. Okay, I should say that wrong. But in college, yes. When you work in that industry, you can't help but get laid or have opportunities.
It was painful. When I say, goodbye, honey, see you later. And she go off to her job. I know that. You know, I'd see your low cut.
Shirt and like, gotta give me the tips, buddy. Gotta bring home the bacon.
One girl I dated, and she was out bartender for a while, she'd wear a shirt that said I love and then it had a big chicken on it, like I love cock. And that was the shirt she'd wear to work.
Like, you date.
I'm like, funny.
I gotta make the tips.
Gotta make the tips. I love the cock.
Gotta make donuts. Oh my God. Really?
It was tough. Cause I had feelings.
So subtle.
I had feelings.
Yeah. Yeah. So I learned to make a drink anyway, dude, but Pepe goes to Poland.
Did you drink?
It doesn't matter. Yeah, I got drunk.
You get drunk?
So I'm not a huge drinker.
No. And you're a waify little thing.
And I was hungry and I'd just flown in from LA and I got to San Francisco, it was raining. You know what? It is San Francisco.
I've said this before when I go there, but it does feel like. But this time it was very different. Like you're visiting an ex that you haven't seen and you just remember all the good feelings, like rushing back. It was like, oh, my God. Like that restaurant, like every corner there was like. It was like literally a date. This, like San Francisco is my ex. I was like that. I remember like dating this guy and going to that restaurant. We would spend an hour in that park. I had sex behind that building, you know, everything. And so. And then it's it is beautiful. Like, every turn. Like everywhere you turn. It's just the. The architecture and the streets. It's the mountain. I mean, the.
I got a lot of fond memories of that town.
The lake. The lake, the ocean, the water. And my friends. It's amazing.
Lake Merced.
But then you get into it. Who goes to Lake Merced? That's so funny. You know, Lake Merced. That is a lake. But I was thinking of the ocean.
It was freezing. It's always cold. It was raining. Like 50 degrees. Raining.
Coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco.
Right. Everybody who comes there says that quote.
It was Mark Twain.
Mark Twain. And it was freezing and. But I did. I run. I ran into, like, so. But it was. It was amazing to be there. And I feel like it's. It's changed a lot, too. But here's the other thing, is that it's. In the last three years since I moved, you know, my rent has tripled where I lived. It's all good. Everything's built up. Even San Francisco City, where you think because it's so small.
No parking.
No parking and everything. I mean, it's just a whole new influx of people. Like the dive bar, like, the dive corner shop is now like bop.com. or like something like exact.com, like, gentrified even further. Yes. Everything's dot com. It's thriving. It's fun. I got drunk, I made a drink. And then they're filming me making the drink, and I'm, like, dropping shit and, like, trying to.
You dropped stuff?
Yeah.
Did it get in your purse?
I dropped my. Okay. I was a little late to the show tonight. Tonight. Because it was a very busy day, and I was rushing from the office. Cause Madison, my producer's going out of town, very busy, and you changed the time of the show, which was great.
I rescheduled.
But then I rushed. I made a smoothie, and I got here. You made it late. I made it.
That's impressive.
Do you know how rushed I was? I didn't even make the goddamn smoothie. I did the shaker smoothie.
And so you just shook it on the way. Like, the shaker.
I shook it on the way. It was fine. I'm like, I'm gonna drink it. When I. And I pull up already seven minutes late.
Nice.
And I get out of the car, and I go to my trunk to get something. And all of a sudden, there's white liquid coming down my leg.
She dumped her entire smoothie into her purse.
I put my entire Smoothie in the purse.
Oh, so it was in the purse, but it came open.
Came open. I don't think it was ever really closed. That's good.
Let's just throw in an open smoothie.
So why where. You got me off track with my bartending. So I dropped things. So I was bartending and yeah, I'm learning. But after a while, I was really, really good and I helped my friends show up and we got, you know, I met some guys, lots of cute guys in San Francisco too. That's another thing that changed. And they hit. No, they were not gay. And they were. They talked. They asked me out. No, I'm telling you, guys in San Francisco never approach women. It was. It was all in all a great event. We raised a lot of money.
They never do, but now they do.
Now they do. There's all these new guys there.
The dotcommers maybe do the tech guys.
Fine, bring in the tech guys. I don't care. Talk to me. We're at a bar. It's fun. So, yes, I got a little buzzed. I had some vodka. I had some. It was like vodka, grenadine.
Grapefruit. I don't remember.
You don't know much about drinks, but then.
No, I know nothing about drinks. Nothing at all.
Considering how much I drink, it's shocking how little I know.
I know nothing. Zero. So I'm like, no, no, I don't drink that much. I shouldn't drink. And then before anyone, I'm like, woo.
Standing on the bar on camera. You might be a little ashamed of.
No, no, no, because you know what? Even when I get. I've never gotten sick from drinking, never thrown out.
It just means you don't know how to party.
No, I can't drink. I physically can't drink enough to get very lose control. So you've never hung out with me.
Outside the studio much, have you?
I don't know. Why? Because I'm really fine when I'm Dr. Like, can we. Can we please do that? No, I'm really like, I'm fine.
Here's what I picture. And we'll go to a bar. I'll be sitting at one end of the bar and you will say after go to the bathroom, I'll be right back. And then you'll be gone for like 20 minutes. And then I'll see you at the end of the bar digging through your purse and go, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I gotta go though. Something happened?
No, dude, I'm legend. I'm legend.
Legend. I am Legend.
I'm legend for my fun. Like, that's why people like me.
We'll make that happen.
I can't believe that you think that I'm not like this. When I'm not here, I'm super fun. Okay, So I have more to say. About time to go. But I think that people. What part of our bar. I did not have sex.
What bar was it at?
It was called the Woodbury Bar.
Down in the McMission District.
No, it was down by the ballpark. So much happening. By the ballpark. Yeah.
So much happening.
Yeah. Even though it's raining. Yeah. Ballpark. So much happening. No. Well, the ballpark was built, like. Yeah. Off the freeway in Bracadero. It's a thriving city and I miss it a lot.
Would you say you've got.
I was very glad to be back in La Bango. And it was not a mistake.
Dudes in San Francisco than any other city by far.
Yes. By.
Well, because you've been. Detroit.
I felt like I slept with every restaurant in the city. That's how I felt. But I slept with. I slept with a lot of guys.
Slept with the restaurants.
Well, I was, like, going on and going. I dated there. I dated there. This. Yeah.
Oh, so you went on a little. A lot of dates that ended with sex behind bars.
Date the restaurants. But I was in all of them. I dated a lot of guys in San Francisco. Most of the guys I've dated, slept with were probably in San Francisco. Yes. Okay. And I saw a few of them. Did not see.
Did you ran into a few or you called them up?
They came to the party.
Okay.
I have a lot of. You know, I'm friends without my exes. Yeah. Pretty much. Eventually.
What's the term? All my exes are driving Lexus?
Yeah.
Or all my exes are live in Texas.
Yeah. Yeah.
I got no exes. One wife bang.
I know.
I need one nice and clean.
She's awesome, too. Okay. Would you like to.
What?
Here's some sex in the news.
I love my sex in the news, Em. You know that.
This is a good one.
Okay.
Swedish health minister officially endorses loud sex.
This is the same country that also said that masturbating in public is not a problem. As long as you're not making.
I'm moving to Sweden.
Remember that?
Trump becomes president. Yes. As long as you're. Exactly.
As long as you're not making eye contact, you can beat off in public, says Sweden.
You can jack off with whoever. Yeah, exactly. Just don't look at them. If you're wearing sunglasses.
You can't prove it, but you can just like stare at the boobs. Just don't look them in the eye.
Well, if you're in glasses, how would they know?
How would they know?
Wear dark glasses and masturbate to whoever the hell you want.
Blind dudes just have it. They can just whip it out.
Oh my God. They're like, I didn't know I was doing. Exactly.
Stevie Wonder lives there.
So they're very liberal sexually, as we know from all this, these legislation last year.
Super attractive too.
Well, here's the thing.
Beautiful.
This is beautiful, right? You think like, they're beautiful. They're sitting around like, except for Pippi.
Pippi Longstock is not so hot.
Listen to this story. So as not to disturb the neighbors, many apartment dwellers in Sweden are banned from noisy activities like vacuuming or drilling after 10pm drilling. One activity that is allowed, however, is loud sex. And that's just the way it should be, said Health Minister Gabriel Wilkstrom. Check this out.
My neighbors are once again having noisy sex. You're my only hope. Could you ban risque exercises after 10pm? A Swede tweeted Weekstrom on Wednesday.
What did you just say? A Swede tweeted?
Yeah, a Swede tweeted the health minister. The 31 year old's health minister's response.
31.
He's 31. Sounds nice for them, I think. Good for their well being and thus public health as well. Here's why the government's endorsement of noisy sex went viral. And he said his real message didn't come across. But here's the problem. He thinks that sex gets a bad rap and it's often related to sexual abuse, STIs and unwanted pregnancy. But here's a fact that is shocking. Wanna hear a shocking fact?
Yes.
In 2013, a poll showed the average Swede has 3.8 encounters a month, which is down from 5 in 1996. That's a 24% decline. And they're concerned that they're not having enough sex in Sweden. So he's saying, if it's gonna be loud, you know, I want him to do it. I'm sure there's a lot of our neighbors that annoy us, but if they wanna, if they've managed to get down to business, you gotta be forgiving. Like, I'm surprised at this. Why aren't the Swedes having as much sex? Who does this study?
Right?
Like, I picture them being like blonde and happy and eating meatballs and like.
Banging in the dark.
Yeah.
Cause it gets dark really early.
But I like, I like that they're, you know, casual about sex. But I don't know why they're not banging.
My dad was.
What's the problem there? I think everyone' happy, there's no stress. And you bang all the time.
They. They actually have the highest rate of suicide, I think on the planet.
Sweden. Sweden.
I do. I've heard that my dad was a very odd fellow.
Makes sense then this. Yeah, he was strange man.
I loved him, but he was a very odd, odd dude. He was a psychologist. PhD. And he administered all sorts. He did a lot of sexual therapy as well with his clients. And long story short, he didn't give me much advice as a kid. But one thing that he repeated over and over again was before I got married, I had to go to Stockholm, Sweden in the summertime because he banged his way across Europe when he was in the military and Sweden was his favorite place. And he said that they. He'd always told me, andy, they think of sex like chocolate. It's not like a taboo over there. It's like chocolate. I remember I had sex with a girl and then I woke up in the morning and her parents were downstairs. I didn't even know that. We were at her parents house and they were making me pancakes. They were so pleased to have me in the house.
Your dad told you this story?
All these stories? Yeah, he used to talk about getting crabs from hookers in Germany. Yeah, he'd tell us all sorts of inappropriate stories.
He called you Andy?
Yeah, he did. He's like, you got to go to Stockholm.
Wait, I can't believe that. I just have.
See, your dad only advice he's ever had.
One time like, did he repeat these stories?
Yeah.
Was it like one time?
No, no. Stockholm, Sweden. Like he told my. My sister had a fiance and he was telling her fiance, before you get married, you should go to Stockholm.
Shut up. That's so messed up.
I know. He was a father.
What would he tell your sister?
Za, I got two sisters.
What'd he tell them?
He told them like he tell the fiance, the boyfriend.
Was it equal opportunity? Bang. Was he like, hey, go sleep? Did they?
All males, all male. He'd get furious if my sisters had a boy over, but if I had a girl upstairs.
No, but. So he didn't tell your sisters to go sleep around as well?
No, no. Yeah, exactly. Double standards.
Sexist.
Yeah.
Did you ever go to Sweden?
Never went. Still gotta get over there. Well, wait until I get divorced.
Apparently they need you after you get divorced.
Okay, 3.8 encounters. That's not enough. Unless it's with multiples.
Right, Exactly. I don't know what's going on there, but probably cause they're depressed. The whole story is very confused.
They are depressed.
Most Republicans lie about their party on dating sites. Really? More than half Republicans prefer to keep their political affiliation on the down low while courting a potential mate.
Not sexy.
No, I know. Well, I don't think it's sexy. But just.18% of Democrats say they hid their party affiliation. And 57 of Republicans replied they would or have lied about their leanings. And 82% of Democrats compared to 43 Republicans said they would never dream of keeping their political viewpoints on, such as Wilde. Now, I always said that I would not like that would be. I always try to think of my deal breakers if I saw something in a profile. And I'm not a big, you know me, like, I'm open. Like I like most people, like I'll give them a chance. But Republican I would especially now, like I'm voting for Trump. Like I can't have that conversation over dinner. Now the thing's a lot. No, I don't know, just like if someone's like trying to talk to me about how much he likes Donald Trump.
Country's very divided. Yes.
But. But I think that men now it's interesting cause you know the other, the number one thing they lie about besides this. No, not on their profile. Height. So they're lying about their height and they're lying about their party. So it's just horrible.
What's your.
Don't go online.
I've never asked you this question. What's your biggest. What's Emily's biggest turn off on a profile. On a profile or like what's the question? What's the difference profile?
Well, because it's funny, I've often thought about it like if I saw something, what would it have to be? And I often said like, if he was really like right wing, like that would.
That's your biggest.
Honestly, like I, because you are kind.
Of a political person, you know, bring it into the show and you show it. It's smart because you're talking about anymore is.
I know. I almost feel bad saying like, I'm gonna lose a lot of listeners right now. And here's the thing, I would be best friends with you. I just don't want to date you. So if you're a Republican and you're a listener, like, I love you. And here's the thing. If we were to party and like, George Bush was there and like Al Gore, like, I.
You would bang Bush?
No, I'd rather sit next to George Bush because I think he's probably a really good time.
Right.
You know, Al Gore, I love Al Gore. Was a little boring. Whatever. He's not so great. So I'm saying, like, George Bush is like. Well, he might not have been the brightest person. Like, you know, he's probably a good time, nice, nice guy.
He says nothing, though.
No, but what I'm saying is political beliefs. What I'm saying is I have nothing against any of my listeners. I'm about sitting in a room, sharing a room with George Bush and talking politics. Having to bang him, that wouldn't turn me on. But having friends who are Republicans or listeners or you or acquaintances, that's fine. But for a relationship, that might be hard.
It might be hard for you.
But, you know, maybe people forget that.
M comes from politics. I mean, she made a documentary about politics.
I did. I know. That was so different. But here's the other deal breaker. Like, I'm trying to think. People, bad breath. But he's not going to tell you. Okay, so in person. Okay, so forget the dating profile. Cause I think that would be like, maybe if he doesn't have a job.
The profile.
Well, I'm trying to think what I would see in the profile that would turn me off.
Right. Jobless would be bad. Lives with mom bad.
But I wouldn't say that. So the point is, I always thought that was something, but now I'm like, okay, so in real life, I'm on a date, right? And.
He.
Wears.
You don't know. He wears what that hard?
A lot of cologne.
Like, a lot of cologne. You would not have been happy a couple nights ago when we had Dr. Ray 90210 in here in Loveline Studios.
Yeah, bad.
He just wore a lot of. He's a Brazilian man and there's a lot of cologne.
Europeans, you can let that slide.
Really?
Yeah.
What about bo? That'd be a big turn off.
That'd be a turn off. Yeah. I would say, like, you know, being cheap. Not tipping the waitress. Not tipping. Not tipping. Well, being rude to the waist, that.
Would be really bad.
Hating his mom if he's like, God, I haven't talked to my mom. She's such a bitch.
Well, what if she was a bitch? Maybe.
I don't know. Just if you hate any. Okay, I understand.
Like, oh, if you hate anyone.
You hate women. No, just like the whole, like, you know, Bad, like, and here's the thing. You can hate your parent. You could have something wrong with them. But if you have, like a good. Yeah, like a. Like she abused me, but don't get into the first day anyway. But if you just have a general. Like, you can tell when a guy's, like, kind of a misogynist and doesn't respect men or women.
Okay.
Yeah. The way he treats the waiter.
Right.
The waitress.
That's a big one.
Huge. So.
Because, you know, like, I hate everything and I hate everyone. You know that, right? You see my anger all the time. But I would never, ever treat a waiter or a waitress.
Absolutely. It's a totally different.
Different thing.
Never.
You're talking about.
Yeah, exactly. And then the other thing is, see, I would say I'm so open that I give people the benefit of the doubt because I know that we're not, you know, first date. So people say, well, if he doesn't ask any questions about me. Well, a lot of times guys are nervous and they talk to. I'd say, like, if you like them enough, even if you think something's like a deal breaker, I think sometimes people are too harsh with their deal breakers, and you got to give someone the benefit of the doubt. So that's my lesson to everyone that think about what, really. Because I think people make all these rules, like, oh, he's didn't graduate from college, or he. He. You know, all these different things. You know, he doesn't make enough money. Or I think that you just. You don't know everyone's situation right away. And I think people cut themselves off. People that could actually be really good match. So I'm not a huge fan of deal breakers.
Let me tell you this.
What?
You're alcoholic.
I even dated alcoholics for years, so I can't even say that.
Well, they're fun. You say no to the Republican Party over there, That's. That's a pretty large chunk of the population. And let me tell you this. What about this? You have. You're dating a Republican. It'll help you see the world a little more openly. You'll be able to hear their ideals. Not they're gonna change, but you'll know where they're coming from. You know what I mean?
I understand. And here's the thing. I'm not even saying that, like, I haven't dated Republicans.
I'm sure you have.
Yeah. So it's not even that. I'm saying that that would even be, you know. But I don't want you to. If you lie about it, though.
I don't think you have a deal.
If you called yourself a Democrat and you were Republican, that'd be bad. But if you didn't say anything, oh, that would be great. And I really liked you would get great chemistry. But we didn't talk about politics.
Okay.
I don't know. It hasn't come up. It hasn't in years.
The wife and I date very different politics. And I just don't talk about them. See, we just make sure to steer clear of them.
Look at James Carville and Mary Matlin. Remember them?
Nope. No idea what you're talking about.
They both worked for Bill. No, he was Bill Clinton's advisor. James Carville.
Oh, and the other one was Mary.
Matlin was Bush's top advisor. Look at that. Top, top, top. And they got married because that tells.
Me that they were in cahoots. And they were like, no, they really weren't.
But they're like, hey. So that's what I'm saying. I'm open. You don't know who I'm gonna end up with.
It's true.
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Oh, we do?
Well, I'm just gonna tell you about it because we're introducing it.
Okay.
Emily, please tell my partner. Oh, yep. Okay. So sometimes it's really hard for people to approach their partner about something they want in the bedroom. We hear this all the time. People email me, like, what do I do with this? Like, you wanna. You know, you try to bring it up. You don't know how to do it, and you guys are having the same conversation in your relationship back and forth and back and forth. So I'm gonna do it for you.
It's almost like a little sex therapy on the show.
Exactly. Little free. I'm gonna call up.
Are you gonna call them?
Yep. I'm gonna deliver the advice. So, for example, I asked on Twitter, what do you wish you could tell your partner about your sex life but don't know how? And, like, people were like, oh, my boyfriend to, like, shave his pubes. Or, like, I want my girlfriend to have a threesome.
You're like the mediator or what? You're like, the mediator.
I'm the mediator. You know, there's a guy's like, I want my girlfriend to talk dirty to me. And, like, if you're shy and you don't want to bring it up, I'm gon them and walk them through it. But I'm totally professional. I'm gonna do it in a really nice way.
Yes.
And I won't do breakups. But I'm thinking, like, I would do a. I would do a proposal.
Right. How would you propose?
I would do a proposal. Well, if someone was like, will you propose? I might do that, but I wouldn't. I'm not doing breakups. I'm not getting that. I'm not doing anything really super dirty, like, super harsh.
Harsh or rude. Yeah. You want to only do positive stuff.
No, I'm gonna help someone.
Like, free advice in a really good way.
Exactly. So if you've got something you want to bring up to your partner and you don't know how, email me.
Feedbackexwithemily.com have you thought about the idea of doing it, like, singing telegram style, where you show up, like, at their work or something?
That would be amazing.
And you do a little dance.
I'm really good at writing jingles.
That would be great.
Do you know that's one of my skills?
I did not have any clue I.
Could wear the elf costume that I have. I have an elf costume.
I'm sure you do.
It was my first job in San Francisco. I moved there for Christmas. I had no money. I was like, catering at night and I.
You would make a great their life.
Do you. I don't remember. It was like some recruitment firm. They called me, like, we got the perfect job for you. Not a recruitment. No, it was a temp agency. They're like, will you be an elf?
We have the perfect job for you.
Will you be an elf at Toys for Tots? And I said, yes, I will.
So you didn't use your. You didn't use your dildo as a little.
No. I was 22 when I was a little elf and I got paid like 150 bucks. It was the best day ever. Made kids happy, gave them presents.
And you still have the costume?
I don't.
No. No.
But I lied to you.
You lied to me. You know you lied.
I know. I was saying I would be an elf. When I delivered the singing telegrams.
You said you had a costume while you were looking at it.
I had an elf costume. They didn't let me keep it. It was part of the job. Okay, I've got some emails.
Okay, let's do it.
Okay. So thank you, everyone. I love when you email me feedbackextwithelmy.com and I love also when you include your name and where you're listening from and how you listen in the email on your age. Age is helpful. Contacts help.
Yeah.
For example, in this first one. Very useful.
Emily. My name is James. I'm 28 years old, male from South Dakota, and I just started listening to your itunes podcast. I'm currently separated from my wife of five and a half years who lives in Texas with our two kids. We've been separated since March of 2015 and are in the beginning stages of the divorce. We're completely civil with each other. We just grew apart to the point where we don't love each other as a married couple anymore. My question is, once the divorce is finalized, how do I put myself back on the dating scene? Thank you. You're awesome, Emily. So this is important because when I was first, I was like, oh, wait, he's 28. So, you know, if he was 45, it's a little different. If you've been married for 20 years, you've married for five. But it's still. So the age is helpful. That's all I'm saying. First of all, don't date until you're ready. It sounds like he is ready, James, because he, you know, they've been separated.
For over a year and they grew apart. It sounds like, it was fairly organic. It wasn't like somebody else got caught doing something.
Right. And sometimes people jump in, though, like, overall, you know, too quickly, because I think they should, and they just want to get over it, and they want him. But it sounds like, you know, he's had some time to heal.
But the kids.
But he's got kids, too. What do you mean?
It's going to complicate things?
Well, exactly. Having kids complicates things. That is true. But I think that you'll find that. Yeah, for a lot of people, that could be complicated. But make sure, James, that you just have figured out, like, why it ended, what your pardon. It was because a lot of people have blame or anger. They don't heal from the relationship. And then, like, figure out, you know, and right now, just go out and start dating again and figure out, you know, what kind of people you like. It's an important time to, like, date casual and, you know, date around, you know, don't feel pressure to commit to anyone right away. And. And I was gonna say that people aren't judging you. Here's another thing I found from a lot of divorced friends, that they really thought that people were gonna judge them because they were divorced, like, they were failures. And I think that we all know that 50% of marriages end in divorce. And I think a lot of people look at it as, you know, shows that you can commit. So I think that I, you know, don't let that intimidate you. I think a lot of people worry that that's gonna be a judgment. Now, the kids thing, that could be interesting for people who are. Who, you know, you might find someone who's divorced with kids or someone who wants more. If you want more kids, that's great. They might think of it as a bonus, but don't. I wouldn't worry about all that stuff. But what I would say is be open because you've been in a relationship for a long time, and just look at it like you're, you know, trying to figure out, you know, again, like, you married someone young and figure out what you like, what you don't like in a potential partner. Honestly, once you have your confidence and you figured out, you know, why you. Why you got divorced, date online. Everyone's dating online these days. But I would also say the real world, this is a great time for you to reconnect. Find your friends who are single and just start, you know, going out. Say yes to every invitation you get. You know. You know those Facebook invites?
Do you read those I don't go on Facebook.
Okay, but if you did.
Yes, I'm familiar with the content.
So everybody go. I can't do it. But now you can. And you never know who you're gonna meet when you're going out. Tell all your friends that you're single. Let them know that you're ready to date again. Because friends, great way to fix you up. They'll be. They might not know in the moment, but they'll be thinking about you. And they'll be. You know, if they meet someone and they'll invite you places. But just remember to be yourself and be honest. You don't have to get into your entire relationship. Obviously, you can say that you're divorced and you. I think it's great to keep it positive. It sounds like you already are in a positive place. And the things that might have changed in, let's see, six years is texting. I, six years ago, seven years ago, wanted a guy to call me. I think texting's okay now. I'm trying to think of what he needs to know.
Would this be bad if he lied and said that he was a widow or. Because chicks like that, they'll feel sorry for him.
He'll totally dig you for that. No, he can't lie.
What if he's like, she's dead to me. But he whispers to me, you know what I mean? Does it go without saying that you don't introduce your kids to potential?
Does it go without saying, well, yes, if you're. My mother, she did not get that message. Or my father, because they. They. They introduced me to my dad, was like, oh, I had a date with her last night. She's gonna come out with this on Sunday like my dad.
So that's the norm to you?
My mom got married six months after she divorced my dad, so my parents messed up. If you are. If you are single, I mean, and you're dating again and you have kids, wait as long as possible until you know that it's a relationship with someone that you really love and that you're gonna be with. Until you drag. The kids connected, and then they never see that person again. Even though you told them to love them like a parent, and then they loved them like a parent, and they were gone.
And they're gone.
Yeah, I have no issues with that.
That must be brutal.
No, it was fine, though. Cause they did suck. My parents made really bad choices.
So you said you're glad to see these people leave?
Yes. I was like, thank God you divorced the asshole mom. But My mom, my stepdad, she's been with for 30 years. She had a little blip in the middle that was a bad stepdad.
Oh, so she's been married three times?
Yeah, my dad too.
Your dad married three times too?
Yeah, and then he died after he married 20 years ago. The third wife he was with for a year. Wow.
Wow.
Just take away five years. That's my story. But yeah, don't introduce them to the kids yet until you're sure.
Unless you got a daughter who you're really hoping becomes like a sex relationship relationship expert online. And when you started the show, do.
You know why I started it? Because I have always been like, you know, I didn't have the best role models. I didn't have great relationships. My home. I'd like to find out the secrets and how people, you know, stay happy and stay in relationships for a long time. Very curious. Now I have all the answers, so it's totally fine.
There should also be like a re bachelor party, like, so that this guy could go out there and have a big, like, coming out party, like, hey, I'm available again.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, he's 20. I don't think he's gonna have a hard time.
How old is he?
28.
Yeah, that's why he's gonna be married to begin with. What are you doing?
28, married, he's got the kids. And I would just say. And again, don't beat yourself up. It's gonna feel awkward at first, perhaps. So go on a few starter dates. Just like you should take every job interview. Ask some women out for coffee. And another thing, just start. Start practice. Talking to women wherever you go. And guys just talk. It's a must.
You'll meet him everywhere. The gym.
I'm so not worried about him at all.
Supermarket.
James, I'm not worried about you.
Nothing's working. You can say my wife is dead to me.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Women love death. They love comforting. Okay, Emily, I was listening to you on Loveline tonight. This is how I found out about you. And I already love that you. I already love you. And I'm a fan. So tonight I heard you speaking about a girl with a girl about holding a vibrator on a guy's penis while giving oral. Unfortunately, I didn't catch exactly what you were saying. I was probably saying it really fast. How would you do this? Where and how would you hold it? And is there a certain kind of vibrator that's better to use? Thank you so much. Looking forward to hearing back. Amanda, this Is a great question.
I don't remember hearing you say this. And I was obviously sitting right there.
Yeah, exactly. Anderson's on Loveline as well. So it's a great point because I think this is a little known secret. And you know, it's funny because I feel like I talk about this all the time on my show, but maybe on Loveline. Not enough, clearly. Do I mention the fact that vibrators don't just feel good on women, they feel amazing on men. Men love a little vibrator. Little vibration on their balls, on their shaft, their taint.
Jesus Christ.
They don't know what they though. A lot of guys don't know it. A lot of women don't try it. And I'm telling you, okay? And he might let me. I'm not gonna sit here and say that every single man on the planet is gonna want a vibrator on his testicles.
I can imagine super homophobic dudes being like, get that take away from me.
Okay? But she wants to know what kind to use. A little. No, you're not using your big, you know, dildo shaped vibrator. You're using a tiny bullet vibe, like a pocket rocket. Little egg one like an egg. Like the Mimi or the we vibe touch or the we vibe tango. Is this perfect. The most perfectly built bullet on the planet. And I would say that it's very powerful, submergeable in water, if that's the point. But you don't have to take a shower with them. But here's the thing. You start by, you know, playing with it. You can just use it on yourself. Let them know you have a vibrator. You don't want to just whip it out if you never had vibrator play. But maybe, you know, you've already had that conversation, let's say. Or you say, hey, look what I've got. And you show them how you use it. Rub it on yourself. And then you take it. And again, this on this. Not on the high vibe, not on the highest vibration level, which you might use when you're masturbating. But you want to start on the lowest level because you don't want to freak him out. Or his balls.
What is that?
Rub it on his shaft. His balls. Like on the low setting. And some guys are sensitive. So again, really light touch, like you're not going like you would, you know, on yourself. So you can even do it over his underwear. Yeah, you kind of. Sometimes when you're like getting in there, you're like. But no, you like I like light touches, too. But again, he's like a tease over his underwear. First to start, then you can trace it all over his body. You can actually use it during a blowjob. You can put it against your mouth or under your chin. And he feels it and it turns your entire mouth into a vibrator. So I would say great ways. Again, like lightly, lightly. His balls, his shaft. Like, I don't think he's gonna stop.
You just suggest that she, like, take them both down.
She puts it like, right next to it and then like, takes it, both of them in her mouth. Is that what you suggested?
No, I. Well, I was saying she could be giving him a blowjob and the penis, whilst. The penis, whilst.
Who do you. Britishness.
Penis is in her mouth.
Yes.
She takes the vibrator on the outside and puts it on her cheek or under her chin. And then her mouth turns into a vibrator.
Right. And her teeth start chattering.
Exactly.
It's like it's freezing.
But don't bite his penis.
Don't do that.
So that feels good, right? Have you never had a vibrator on your penis?
I don't talk about such things.
Em, I think you haven't. I think I gave you one. I gave you a vibrator.
Republican man who keeps my sexual.
Listen, guys, I'm not saying whip it out. I'm saying that if your guys open, he might like it. He doesn't, then guess what? Just give him a blowjob without the vibrator and he's gonna be happy. End of story.
Trump.
I bet Trump would like a ball. I think he needs one.
There's a really good documentary called you got Trumped, and it's all about what a dick Trump is.
Really.
Did just come out two years ago. It's all about him trying to, like, take over the Scottish land that, like, people have been living on for years. And he wants to turn it into a. The best golf course in the world, you know, and he's saying, we need to get this scum out of here. It really shows you the true side.
I think everybody should watch a documentary. Do you talk about it on your show?
No, I haven't. I did way back when, long before he was running for president.
I think you should talk about it right now.
In cinematics, did you see the.
Can you hear a throwback? Even though Cinematics. Anderson's amazing podcast.
I'll see if it's streaming, maybe.
It's all about upcoming shows. And I also do releases.
I also do top My. My best streaming pick of the week. A great movie that's streaming. Yeah. That you can watch right now on Netflix or. Or Amazon Prime.
What'd you pick this week? I want to watch movies this week.
I picked one called the Barkley Marathons, which was phenomenal. It's a documentary all about this crazy marathon that this crazy old coot put together down in Tennessee. And it's 100 miles in 60 hours.
Wow.
You got to run 100 miles, 60 hours. And not just running. It's through like the Tennessee backwoods. It's amazing.
That's amazing.
This phenomenal documentary called the Barclays. The Barkley marathons.
Okay, got it. And you should talk about the Trump one too, because it would be a good political message.
There's Trump, like a 40 minute movie on Netflix as well. I've not seen it yet, but Johnny Depp plays Trump or something. It's supposed to be very funny. It was like a parody of that book that he wrote, the Art of Business or whatever. I'm speaking out of turn because I'm not seeing it.
Okay, well, me you're talking about Trump there.
Getting cold there.
Yeah, I just got cold, settled down. I spilled a smoothie of it. Wet. I got wet all over me.
Were you inside your purse when it spilled?
No, it was started. It was started dripping down my leg. Out of my purse.
Out of your.
This is why I came in here.
And I dumped on the ground like you were straight in the ground.
I was jumping on the ground when I walked in.
Okay, we have time for one more.
Hi, Emily. I'm going. My name is Jamie. My name is Jamie. I'm from Minnesota and I'm 25. I've recently found you and love what I'm learning. What I'd like to ask is when I drink, I'm a very charismatic person. Fun, very outgoing towards everyone, yet sober me is very shy, reserved and quiet at first.
That's so weird.
All my friends say I'm a very funny person and I love to get and they love to get together with me. My question is, how should I approach a woman? Should it be timid me or slightly drunk me who is all fun?
Yikes. Jamie.
Signed Jamie. What do you think?
What do you. You can't do it with a liquid courage. Unless you're looking for like a little one night fun.
I know he cannot rely on liquid courage as a crutch.
And you probably think you're extra smooth and cool, but I bet you, especially if she's not drinking, you're Gonna come off like sloppy drunk, Right?
I'm sure all your alcoholic friends think that you're really funny, too.
Here's what I've learned about drunks. The ones that think that they're really fun in life of the party when they're drunk. No, those are the ones that are obnoxious. And you can't wait for them to leave.
Exactly. Except for I really am fun when I'm drunk. But I know what you're saying. I think that that's where the trouble starts, though, for a lot of people who get into addiction because it's social anxiety and they use that to quell that, and they rely on drugs and alcohol and all this stuff, and they become too dependent. So what you got to do, Jamie, is during the daytime. Daytime. When you're sober. No, when you're sober, practice talking to women. Like I just told. Like I just said. It's like the reason why you're so afraid of approaching women, a lot of people and talking and you think you need to drink is because you're not used to it. You know, you don't have that experience, like learning how to talk to children. Until I had a niece, I didn't know how to talk to kids. And then I love her and I got her, and I understand now I can talk to anyone. Like, it's practice. If you have always made women this uncomfortable thing, you won't get it. But when you're out, doesn't have to be someone you want. Anyone you want to bang or, you know, sleep with. Just anybody. Strike up a conversation.
And there's tricks that I've used em as a man, go, oh, my God. I've pretended that they're dudes, right? Like, I just imagine that they're very effeminate guy.
Like, do you imagine their penis?
No, not really. I just imagine, like, this. It's a dude who has long hair, and it kind of has feminine features. And, like, what. I still like what they're saying. If they're a dude, would I still want to hang out with them or. And I don't know if this has come up on this show here before, but, like, I'll pretend that it's like my sister's friend. I'll do that.
Sometimes you literally, like, so you're like, hot girl, hot girl.
But I'm like, no, but she's my sister's friend, so it's like, you know, like, we have something in common. Or it's like my. My really good friend's girlfriend. I'll. I'll try and psych myself out. So I believe that I'm talking like, my really good friend's girlfriend.
That's. That's that if.
Yeah, I can trick myself. I remember I told you I tricked myself that the person's dead so that I wouldn't say.
I was just gonna say to you, do you pretend that they're dead?
But I think guys can psych themselves out and kind of set themselves up to think that way.
I think that is great. I mean, because I always tell guys, like, channel, like, think of how you are. Like, when you're with your friends, you'd be that guy to think, actually picture that this is your best guy friend.
Or, yeah, it's his girlfriend. So I want to be putting moves on. Because a lot of the time, the awkwardness that comes from guys. I don't know, I can't speak for all guys, but for myself is like, the idea that they know that I want to bang them. And everything I'm saying is just trying to get into their pants makes me feel like such a dirty person.
You're already thinking, right? And see, and it just feels funny because as a woman. Yeah, you mean if you just start talking to her, like, in the middle of the day on the bus or.
Whatever, why would you come up and just start talking to me, you know, out in public? It's because you want to get my pants. And everyone knows that, including me and you. That makes it feel very uncomfortable and dirty. And I.
But there's ways just to casually. If you're just like, hanging out in a crowded place, you know, you're waiting in line, you're like. You know, I always say, like a picture. If you're waiting in line and you're just, like, looking around, you're like.
You always pick up the line. Yeah, well, where.
Where else are people in crowds?
That's why I did a bartender. Because I would sit there and I'd have something to talk to them about, and I actually wanted something besides their vagina. They didn't know that at the time. They thought I just wanted a drink, but I actually wanted more than a drink. You know what I mean?
Right. So this way, you don't like bartender, and then would you get the bar?
And then I would end up, like, you know, dating the bartender. But, you know, know, I build a rapport. But there was already a transaction kind of in between us, so there was a point to talking to them.
Right. But girls want to get laid, too. They want to meet guys.
Exactly.
So there's you shouldn't be thinking that. I never thought when a guy was talking to me. He just taught me because he wants to sleep with me.
I know. No girl ever thinks that, but that's the way guys think. And especially when I was younger, I totally thought that. And what you guys are really thinking is, yeah, I'm hot and he knows.
Exactly.
And this makes me feel good about myself.
Yeah, it feels really good when guys don't hit on you. You're like, why is no one hitting on me?
Yeah, right?
As a woman, but as a guy.
You'Re really worried that you're gonna get rejected.
If we're all out at a party or somewhere and we're single, like, we wanna talk to people, right? We do.
It doesn't mean you're gonna go home with them, but you do wanna talk to them at least.
You never know, right? And you're gonna get better at it. And I love what you just said, Anderson. That was great advice. And Jamie drunk you is not attractive to women. So, you know, don't do that unless you're attracted to drunk, sloppy women.
It's a slippery slope. Cause you're for successfully.
I think we just saved him.
If you're successful with that, you're gonna rely even heavier on the drinks. And next thing you know, you're drinking every night.
Exactly. And I have a lot of friends who have watched Get Sober. And when they're so a year or two after dating, they're like, I can't. I can't. I can't talk to anyone. You don't want to do that. So we saved them. Save. Saving lives here, Anderson. Thank you so much. And so cinematics.
Cinematics. And the film vault. The after disaster.
The after disaster. Just plug those right into your phone now, because you're already listening to your podcast.
A lot of Anderson. I get that it's a lot of.
Anderson, but you can never have too much Anderson.
Oh, that's so sweet.
And you can never.
Jamie, real quick. We're assuming it's a dude. Could have been a girl. Never once said he was a dude. It could be a lesbian woman named Jamie. No, you never know. Can't be sure.
Wait.
I just like to, you know, hit every possibility.
You know, you're right.
All the information that we gave you.
This said he wants to approach a woman, but you're right.
Could be a lesbo.
It's not.
Is that disrespectful? Say lisbo. Should I not say lesbo?
Lesbian.
Lesbian. Okay.
Okay. So, yeah. Thank you.
Thank you.
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