Episode 300 - Bizarre Phone Sex Request
7 Dec 2025 · 59 min
Emily Morse talks with phone-sex operator Ms. Liz about how she handles callers with extreme fetishes, from giantess to cannibalism. Ms. Liz uses mental flowcharts to improvise in real time and refuses requests for violent or lethal fantasies. The hosts also discuss why femdom callers are drawn to the fantasy and celebrate listener questions about testicle length and body confidence.
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Bedroom eyes, they call them in a bygone day.
Hey Emily, you got a boyfriend? Cuz my man e here, he just got his heart broken. He thinks you're kind of cute.
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You're listening to Sex with Emily. We're talking about sex, relationships and everything in between. And it is free Friday, everyone. Welcome to the show. Thanks everyone for listening. And thanks to our Friends with Benefits members who've been listening to us all week long. You know, you can become a Friends with Benefits member by going to our website signing up. And you get four shows a week plus a lot of benefits and a lot of cool stuff. And you get to hear Madison I every single day. So you should become a Friends benefits member now if you want to support the show and you want to have better sex, it's 15 cents a day. So thanks everyone and today's show. I'm really excited we have a special guest, Ms. Liz. She's a professional phone sex operator. So we're going to start with the basics. Phone sex 101. How do you talk dirty but menace? You'll be happy to know that she gets into, she does a lot of fetish work. She, she works with a lot of men. Call her up about different kinds of foot fetishes and more intense fetishes. So we're gonna get into that later with her.
Not that I'm into them.
No, you're not into them. We're into understanding them more.
Yeah, I really wanna.
You don't have a foot fetish?
I don't have a foot fetish.
Not yet.
Not yet. Maybe later down the line. But I am really fascinated about what drives people exactly to have these festivities.
So we're gonna talk about that. I'm really excited. We've got some sex in the news. We've got some emails. Topics include testicle length. We've getting a lot of emails about testicles lately. Not sure why, just happening. Reconnecting with old flames. Carrying baggage from past relationships. If we get to all those emails, we might not because Ms. Liz is going to be an awesome guest. I'm really excited to talk to her today. And what else I have to tell you is that you know, Adam and Eve is our sponsor. We love them. If you've been thinking about getting any sex toys, you've been thinking about getting sexy lingerie, fun games to play with your partner. Adam and Eve has every product you need. And the best part is that if you put in coupon code Emily at checkout, you get 50% off most items. Three adult DVDs, you get a free gift, free shipping. It's awesome. Just go play on their website and we would really appreciate you support them. That's awesome. So thank you. That's how we're able to do the show. Hey man, it's. What up?
What's going on?
How are you honey? Menace had a big night. His voice is like 10 octaves lower. You sound like you've been smoking cigarettes.
I know, it is, it is crazy what happened yesterday. Okay, so yesterday I kind of mentioned on the show that there was this big secret party going on in San Francisco and I was trying to get in.
Right.
So what happened was there was some rumors flying around the city that some artists were in town. So we sent some people to go investigate it and then.
Come to find out Sean Parker, who's one of the co founders of Napster and he used to be the president of Facebook Was throwing this private party in this. In San Francisco. The lineup included the killers, Jane's Addiction and Snoop Dogg and DJ Cascade.
Right, right. And Lady Gaga used it yesterday. Or that was.
Well, that was a rumor. That was a rumor, but it wasn't. There was no Lady Gaga. But.
I called in some favors and I ended up getting into this party.
Awesome.
This was the best private party I've ever been to in my entire life.
Crazy.
You walk in. It was a warehouse that they totally revamped and made it look like it was. You were inside, maybe the W or something. Right, right. They had all these private tables, all the pillows. Everywhere you walk in, there's a giant bar. Every. Every alcohol you can ever think of is there.
Oh, my God. You were in heaven.
There were seven bartenders on one side, seven bartenders on the other side. That was one of the bars, the main one in. In the middle. Right.
So you didn't have to wait for drinks. Because that's always a bummer about parties when you're, like, waiting for a drink.
It is open bar the entire time.
Okay.
From 5:30 to 2:00am okay. On the left side you have like, your. The. The food is your sliders, seafood, sushi bar. Anything you want.
Amazing.
Grab it. The other side is they. They're cooking whole pigs. They have like a meat section. Then they have like, fruits and cheeses, all this stuff.
Wow.
All night long. Get whatever the hell you want. Right? Then you. Then I went and got my own table. You sit down at the table. They come by and they bring more food by. They go, here, do you want.
Country fried chicken? Hell, yeah. With some country fried chicken.
Stir that up. Yeah.
So they do that. Then they come by and they go, oh, do you want, you know, some. Some beef with mashed potatoes?
Right. It was epic.
Epic food. Right? Then they come by and they go, hey, do you want these mini ice cream cones dipped in chocolate? Yeah, yeah, I want that. Oh, here, you want mini ice cream sandwiches? Yeah. Oh, we have mini donuts. They just kept on, like, feeding the entire night. Just drinks effing galore. Right?
What was the crowd like?
The crowd is a bunch of young dot commerce and stuff like that. And here's the best part. They're giving out these $300 bottles of tequila. 102 proof. Right. Like candy.
Okay.
I can't mention it. I have it on my. My Twitter. I don't. I wasn't familiar with the name.
Right.
Because it's so expensive. Like, I would never buy a bottle like that thing.
Right.
I got to take a bottle home. It was amazing.
Oh, my God.
Right? Snoop Dogg was amazing. The Killers were amazing. They did a cover of on the dock of the bay.
Oh, my God, that's amazing.
Yeah. It was just a crazy party. I want to take this away from the party and I want to share this with the men that listen to the show. After going to this party and observing some things.
No man should be afraid to talk to a woman.
Okay.
This guy, a guy. Number one.
Could have been maybe the shortest guy in the room.
Okay.
Shortest guy in the room, redhead guy. You know, people always make fun of redheads. I love.
We don't.
I love redhead women.
Right.
So super short, redheaded.
The one of the hottest chicks in the party just come straight up to him. And he was talking with his friend and said, oh my God, I love him to. Right, Right. Half hour later, I see this chick making out with the dude.
Right. He must be have some.
He just got his game. He was just like playing off like it wasn't a big deal. That's the key.
What if he has like a bazillion dollars and he's a well known Internet person?
I would. I would have known him.
Okay. I don't know if you would have.
I would have.
Did you see Sean Parker?
And I saw Sean Parker. I talked to him. I told him it was an amazing party. I hung out with Willie Brown, one of the ex mayors.
Right, Right. I made a film about him years ago, San Francisco.
And.
And I saw another guy. Not.
He was just kind of. He seemed kind of like a loner. Right. He was pulling chicks left and right.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay. How did you pull chicks?
Did I. I.
Come on.
I was some chicks plus one. So I was hanging out with her. The Internet.
Okay. How was it? Did you make out? You did make out.
I don't make out in public like that. Oh, I don't do that.
Did you go outside make out later?
Maybe. Maybe. I did do that. Awesome.
Do you like her?
No, we're. We're cool.
Have you been friends for a while or.
Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing's gonna go on.
It's so not messy. It's not gonna go anywhere. But you made out. You probably don't even remember. You're oblivious. That sounds awesome. That sounds so fun. I'm so glad you did that.
It was an epic party. And the party was actually for Spotify, which is a new music service, which is. It's pretty amazing. It's basically itunes for free. And you just stream everything okay, cool. Really cool.
That's awesome.
Sorry to bore everybody, but go to. If you want to go to my blog, whiteman. Com, I have full videos and pictures and all.
Oh, my God, I'm so glad you got in. That's great.
I saw Perry Farrell. He was like. He was out in the crowd having fun. He.
Did you dance? No, you don't know.
I was in the crowd. He was going out in the crowd and grabbing people's drinks. He's like, oh, what's this on the microphone? He's like, oh, I'm gonna drink this. He starts drinking people's drinks. Snoop Dogg, last song. He had everybody jump on the stage with him. And he was. He was smoking a blunt and he was.
If he smoked a big joint and he was.
Yes, I had with everybody.
Yeah, I've been to parties with him and he does that and it's awesome, dude. Love it. Manus, that's so fun. And you made out with a chick.
Maybe.
Score.
Maybe.
Oh, dude, I don't care.
Just tell me.
You don't tell me.
Who do you make out with? Dudes? No. Dogs? What?
No.
Okay. Yeah. So that's great. Menace. That's so fun.
What did you end up doing?
I ended up. God. Well, I didn't do that, but I. I ended up having a dinner date and I went to really good restaurant, my neighborhood at Walker Dog. I did make out. And I. Yeah, not as exciting as you, but it was a great night. It was beautiful in San Francisco. Like I said, it's still summer here. It's amazing. Like, our summer is just starting and it's epically summertime right now. It's like 75 degrees in San Francisco.
Yeah.
We are so happy. And so, yeah, I hung out. It was fun, and I've just been. Yeah, I'm getting ready to have a big gay wedding tomorrow night. I have to get a white dress. Like, I have to get like a sexy, cool, hot white dress like, in the next 24 hours. And I gotta do that.
Get one.
I'm busy forever.
21 or H M or something.
No, I need something a little nicer than that. A little nicer than that. Oh, excuse me. Nicer than that. And I want to tell everyone that you can always call to our something new that we're starting. 415-992-7392 is our number. You are more than welcome to leave us a message on our voicemail. We'll answer your questions on the air and we'll listen to your comments if you've Got comments, questions? We've already gotten a few that we're going to start playing next week. So we appreciate that. It's super easy to do. 415-992-7392. If you've got questions or comments now, you can call in or just leave us a message if it's not between 1 and 2pm Pacific Standard Time. That's what I got to say about that. And yeah, Tuesday's show is how to break up. Monday's show, I mean, is gonna be how to break up and get over it. So tune in on Monday. That's what we got. And what else? What else, what else? I'm trying to think there's something else. I don't know. I'm happy it's Friday. I'm so happy it's Friday. Jumped out of bed. It's beautiful. Very happy. I know.
I wanted to go home right after this and now I just.
Can you.
I can't.
Now you go to work.
Yeah, actually I have to go to my house and grab something and now go back to work.
Oh, that's a bummer.
Just got a message.
Oh my God. Hate that. So we've. Yeah, we're like I said, we're gonna be talking to Ms. Liz who's a phone sex operator because I'm so excited talk to her because she's got going to answer all of our questions that we've had forever. And I've got a little bit of sex in the news and some emails. We can get into that as anything else you'd like to share?
No, man, it was just epic party. Epic party.
You got to go to Sundance something film festival. They have parties like that all tight. They're awesome. Like I get this was.
Yeah, I go to some really cool stuff all the time but just have.
Something where it's just you wanted it so bad. Like you wanted to go in and you got in and like that's so awesome.
And it was a really good experience. I also got these little copper cups. These copper cups that are there. Just awesome.
How many people were there?
We think not. Not too many. Honestly. It was in the hundreds. So cool.
So it wasn't too crazy. Yeah, love it. And also I just want to mention again that my book is coming out October 11th. I kept. It's in my car. I meant to bring it in. It's called hot sex. Over 200 things you can try tonight. You can pre order it on Amazon right now. If you go to sex with emily.com There's a. There's a link right on the right hand side. And I'm doing a book party in San Francisco on October 6, and it is for everyone. It's at Good Vibrations, which is a great sex store in the city. And you can find out more information about that if we're friends on Facebook or you go to my sex with Emily page, you can see more about that. And it's coming up soon. It's like, soon. Like, it's happening. Like, book. Like, I was so excited. I worked really hard on it, and I really love it.
I can't wait for those parties.
You know they're gonna be having a bunch of parties. Yeah. But the October 6th is the first party. So hot sex. Over 200 things. You can try tonight. Love it. All right, we can get into some.
Text in the news.
Okay.
I love when your eyes open wide and he looks at me. I can't wait to get cameras. You can see minus the eyes. He makes it because I'm like, is he saying that I'm. I don't know what he's saying.
What?
I don't know what you're. I don't know what you're like. You're trying to sell. You're trying to convey something to me. Don't know what it is. Okay. Brad Pitt saves face. Jennifer Aniston's a dear friend of mine. He says, so I don't know if you heard this in the news a few weeks ago. He said something like, yeah, Jennifer was boring. We just sat around the couch and smoked pot. There was an interview that he said something to that fact. So he was like, backpedaling, backpedaling, backpedaling. And he said, all I know is that my point really was the best thing I'd done as a father is to be sure that my kids have a good mother. That's all I was or am trying to say. I have no reference to the past. I think it's a shame that I can't say something nice about Angie without Jen being drug in. You know, she doesn't deserve it. So anyway, he's trying to apologize for saying that. He just said hot with her.
One of these one. Are they just gonna get over. It's been like.
It's been the years. Who cares, you know? But that's just what. That's what we do with pop culture, right?
That's Jennifer Maniston. I mean, she's pretty.
I know you say man is in, like, Prez Hilton. Whatever. She's cute. I think she's pretty. I think that Brad Pitt's been laid by a lot of hot chicks. He's super psyched. Super good life.
I'm just. If you take a young photograph of Dustin Hoffman and you put it right next to Jennifer Aniston, you might see some similar.
I disagree. She's really pretty.
Don't tell me. Okay, what about Sarah Jessica Parker? Do you think she's really.
I think she's cute.
Are you.
I think her whole package is cute. Like her dressing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, that's joking. She's, she's, she's a. You know, she's, you know, I don't think she typically beautiful, but I think.
She'S, she gets bashed so much for being ugly. Yeah. That it got back to her husband. Whatever. Ferris Bueller. He.
He, he actually made a statement like how it makes him feel bad or something like that. I don't know. Yeah, Ferris Bueller could have got.
I mean she's made bazillion dollars career. I'm just saying she's got obviously the box office on chicks to listeners. You think it's just chicks?
Yeah.
You don't think dudes are into her? Never.
I could not find. If we looked.
Yeah. A lot of guys hate sex in the city.
If we looked into my phone, I can't find one chick, I mean one dude that would say that Jennifer Aniston is hot. I swear to God.
I gotcha. Well then. Okay. I don't know. That's what you think. I have my different opinions.
Okay.
There's different women. Like I get it. There's actresses that women find hot and men find hot and. Okay, Scarlett Johansson is dating Kieran Culkin or Justin Timberlake. Unclear which one. Apparently she's been seen with both of them lately. They're reporting that the 26 year old was hardcore flirting with Mr. J.T. one night at a Manhattan club until the wee hours of the morning. And then later she was seen leaving his penthouse apartment. She's late. Everyone talk about like, talk about pucking up with everyone. I mean we were talking about the other day, who, who are you saying is like the golden penis in Hollywood? Oh, Brad Pitt, right?
No, no, no. The chick that's hooked up with all the golden dicks in Hollywood.
Oh, the chick with the golden.
Yeah, golden dick.
She should get like a, like an Emmy award. But it's like a big dick.
It's, it's. What's her name? She's married to the guy from Coldplay.
Gwyneth Paltrow.
Gwyneth Paltrow.
Okay, so then apparently she was doing them and then she was seen with actor Kieran Culkin just days before in la. But apparently like then they backtrack and say that, well, Timberlake hired Scarlett to appear in a music video and that Kieran Culkin and Scarlett went to high school together, so maybe there's nothing. Who knows? So that's that. There's a lot of celebrity gossip today. So I did this for you, Menace, because I thought you'd appreciate it.
I love it.
So, as you know, Scarlett, she's a new divorcee. She split from her hubby Ryan Reynolds last year and so she's.
Oh, there's new photos that just leaked of her too.
Really?
Because her phone got hacked.
Yeah, right. Ah, there's another hacking story. Everyone's.
Nude leak. I'll show them to you right now, real quick.
Great. I'm dying to see pictures of Scarlett Johansson.
She. She's. She got hella ass.
Hella ass In a good way or. Hella ass.
Yeah, good way.
Do you like big butts?
And I can't lie. No, no, it doesn't matter me. Remember, it's always proportionate. It doesn't.
Proportionate. Menace likes proportion. What do you like?
I don't, I don't like, like super crazy Nicki Minaj, but I just.
Forget it. I can't find.
Can't find any photos. Okay, is Ellen Nordergren. How do you say her name? Tiger Woods. Ex Ellen Nordegren ready to marry new boyfriend, Jamie Dingman.
Oh, no.
Apparently the former Swedish model is back on top. She's so in love with her new millionaire beau, Jamie Dingman. Terrible name. That she may be thinking about marriage number two. Despite rumors that Jamie is about as faithful as Tiger when it comes to relationships, the couple seems to have a strong relationship. After winning that hundred million dollar divorce settlement from Tiger woods, she can certainly form another wedding. But it's apparently making Tiger really jealous because he thought they were going to get back together. So she's made 100 million bucks. She's a hot model. And the problem is, is that a former Swedish model, the problem is that she's dating the same exact type. And this goes back to, I have friends like this. I was just dating someone, dating someone, talking to me on their date. And she's like, she only likes the bad boys or she dates the same types over and over and over again. So it sounds like this guy doesn't have a great reputation either. And I think she should run for the hills if he doesn't Have a good reputation. It's everything that you hear about people are probably true.
Do you hear when they first, when they first started dating that he used to date that the number one chick that Tiger was. Was cheating?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that, that, that chick. What's her name? I can't remember her name. Oh, yeah, yeah, I forget. Rachel.
Rachel, yeah, something. Duke and Chan or something. Whatever.
She's.
She's super hot.
Rachel.
Yeah.
Really?
She's super hot.
She's kind of hot. Yeah. So anyway, I think that, that Ellen should run for her life, get some therapy and not keep dating the same kind of men. That's what I.
True. And hold on to your 100 million for a while.
Hold on to your 100 million. Well, what I understand is why are people rushing to get married? Why do people rush into one marriage to the next? Probably because she has kids. And I think when you have kids, you really want that stability. But I'm telling her, Ellen, just chill and date around for a while. Don't just go right into another relationship.
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Zooey Deschanel.
Yes.
This is for you. Knows the pain of love gone bad.
What?
In her new series, New Girl, which premiered last night on Fox.
Yes.
You were at a party. You didn't see it, sport. My girl plays a girl in an emotional whirlwind and she's fresh from a breakup with her new boyfriend. Deschanel's character, Jessica Day, makes a bold move by shacking up with three guys she meets Craigslist style. She says the fact is that she's a girl who has a boyfriend since she was 18 and she's dumped her. This is all about the episode. It's not that interesting, but I just wanted to read it because there was a news story about her and it says that. Yeah, talks about her new show. Did you know what? She has a new show.
Yeah.
Okay.
Of course I do.
Are you gonna watch it?
I love her.
Are you gonna dvr?
Yeah, of course I do.
When are you gonna fix up my dvr? I've had cable now for three weeks.
Stop going.
I'm not doing anything. I'm home. Come over. Is Reese Witherspoon already pregnant with her third child?
Whore.
Whore. Less than six months ago, Reese Witherspoon and married her second husband, her talent agent Jim Toth at her country state in California. And from the looks of new photos, she may already be pregnant. X17 Online publishes series photographs of the 35 year old and she looks pregnant. Whatever. She probably had a big sandwich. They Always do that. They're like, oh, she's pregnant. They look pregnant. I don't know. I got it today.
Really?
Is it old? They already say she's. Is it already in the news? No.
No, because she just got hit by a car. Did you hear about that?
I did hear about that, but it.
Doesn'T mention that she got, like, black eye and everything.
Wow. She got a what?
She got a black eye.
Oh, I think she said she got a black.
No, a black guy.
Yeah, I think she got a black guy.
She might have got a black eye and a black guy.
They're using her wardrobe. She's probably just wearing a big, baggy sweater because she's uncomfortable because she got in a car accident. But anyway, those are the pregnancy rumors. You look fat one day. Cause, you know, women, you know, you don't know this because you're not a woman. But, like, literally, there's a few times a month. One time a month or definitely when you're, like. You feel. You feel like you gained five pounds and you might. And it looks like you're pregnant. Happens.
I'm definitely looking pregnant today. Before, when I was walking on the way here, I saw some people know. And they go, dude, you look fucked up. And I know. I do. I look really bad right now.
Yeah. Your voice is different.
My voice is different. I.
You smoke cigarettes or something?
No, I just went. I just been up the entire time.
Right. Even stopped yet.
No.
Really? You just woke up. You had to go to work this morning. Did you have your first.
No, I went to the party. I went home for a minute, took shower, went straight to work. And then I've been working ever since.
That is freaking crazy.
So I've been up, like, more than 25, dude.
Well, you're.
You're pulling in here.
You're good.
That's what I do. That's what I do.
Girl, I adore you. Okay. Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis deny sexting each other. I think someone denies something. You know they did it. Apparently there was these. Did you hear this nude photo?
Yeah, he got hacked. There was no new food photos of Mila Kunis. But she.
Unfortunately.
Yeah, unfortunately. But there was. Her phone got hacked. There was some. There was two pictures of Justin. One, he was laying on a bed with his shirt off. The second that, there was a picture.
Of him with underwear on his head.
On his head. And then there was some random guy that they can't identify that they were showing his junk. His wiener.
So. Yeah.
But the person who hacked the phone Said they didn't release text messages between Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis.
So apparently they're saying they hooked up when they were making friends with benefits movie this shows. They're saying this is proof that they hooked up.
I would do.
Dude, I would hook up on a movie set. Totally. Yeah. Who wouldn't? That'd be a hot couple. I know. I love it. So hot. Okay, so that's some news. And then what?
How do you like chicks just become like the it girl for a little while? I don't. I don't know how that happens because.
There'S so many beautiful women, there's so.
Many actresses like Mina. Goodness, she doesn't look any different than she did before. She. She looks the same, but it takes.
A while to build your fame and your stardom and all that stuff.
Yeah, she's always been hot.
I thought she was still hot when I saw her in Sarah Marshall, that movie. Forgetting Sarah Marshall, I thought, oh my God, she's gonna be a star. Like, I could tell. I thought she was beaut. But I don't remember seeing her much before. Oh, I know. She was in that 70s show or something. Oh my God, look at me. Look at me. Wow. Dude.
I do not know.
I do not know. I do not know. I know some things that I can't even explain just from the ether. Yeah. So we should call our guests in a few. But let's do a few emails first, and then we're going to call our guest, Ms. Liz, phone sex operator. Hi, I'm Leah Menis. So recently my boyfriend and I were on the phone discussing our insecurities. That's always a fun conversation. I expressed some things about my body that bothered me and made me feel much better about them. So in turn, I asked him about his insecurities. And I wasn't too sure if men even had insecurities. To my surprise, he has one, and it's his long balls. My boyfriend is 31 years old and he says he thinks the older he gets, the longer they're getting. I haven't really noticed the length of them because if I'm giving them attention, he's laying down. So maybe menace can answer this question. Do men's balls grows longer than the older old Grow longer the older they get. P.S. maybe you can just discuss this on the next show, female ejaculation. Because to my astonishment, I did this last time we had sex. And he was so turned on, but I have no clue how I did it. Thanks, Michelle. Thanks, Michelle.
You just peed on him. That's what happened.
No, you did not pee on him. We talked a lot about female ejaculation yesterday, which I'll get into too. So it is true that they say that men's balls do drop as they get older. So they might seem like they're coming longer. How are your balls doing, Menace?
My balls hang so low that they, they come out my the ends and then they drag on and he trips on the pavement.
But it's true when men, men get older, they say it's like gravity. Breasts drop when they get older, that men's balls tend to drop.
Yeah, my balls really haven't dropped. They're still up in my stomach. But I, I do hear this, you know the, the saying, the older you get that the longer, longer balls.
But that's his insecurity. He's insecure about it. I would never even know.
I could think, why would you be insecure about it?
Long balls, short balls, round balls, who cares? Balls or balls?
Let me tell you something that girls like. I'm going to tell you what girls like.
You're going to tell me what girls like?
Yeah, you tell me what girls like, Mr. Mr. Guy that's worrying about his balls hanging too low.
Ladies kind of like it when they. The balls kind of slap in certain areas.
Exactly. I was just going to say that.
See, we're just on that level right now.
Sometimes when you're having sex with a woman, your balls can hit her clitoris.
You're having sex missionary style or any style, doggy style, and those balls hit her in a really good place. Yeah, totally. And it feels amazing. So your long balls are awesome. And hail to the long balls. So I think that's cool. They discussed her insecurities and she said that she expressed her insecurities and she felt better about it. So I think couples should maybe have that conversation.
Embrace your balls, man.
Embrace your balls. Whatever. I wonder what she was insecure about. What I'm curious about. And then she wants to talk about female ejaculation. Yes, it exists. There is some dissent about it in the, in the sex world that it doesn't really exist. But it does come from the G spot. It does. When you put pressure on the G spot, it's the urethra. It is not urine that comes out. It truly is female ejaculation. And what else can I say about it? I have to say that you. It's all. It's all starts with the G spot. And if you. Great way to start exploring it, it Sounds like you already did. Do it. You already. But it is for him to use his fingers on your G spot with lube. Have him use lots of lube on his fingers and see how it feels. It might feel like you want to urinate, but you don't. And then you might ejaculate, but it takes a while. Takes practice. But they say there's studies that say any woman can learn to ejaculate. How's a body? How's about that?
Study really hard, right? Practice.
Okay. Oh, and this is funny. This is another one. This is. This is totally. These both came in and I'm serious. In the same day.
Okay.
Right next to each other. Emily, I recently discovered a benefit to low hanging balls.
Oh, really?
They are really hot. Now that my husband is approaching 58, they are hanging lower. When he takes me from behind, they swing up and lightly smack my vulva. Oh my God. I didn't even read this yet. Who knew the new form of stimulation. Feels great. No name was given on this. That is hilarious. I didn't even see that these were juxtaposed right after the next. I love my life. I love when things work. So yeah, low balls, no problem.
Embrace.
Embrace the low balls. Time up. Do something. Time in a bow.
Make a necktie out of it.
Make a necktie. Do whatevs. Okay. I think. No, we got a few more minutes. Okay. Emily and Menace, I'm a Die Hard fan and look forward every week to listen to your show.
I thank you.
I have a problem. About a year ago, I told this woman I'll call her Sierra about my feelings for her. She was beautiful and intelligent. The kind of person who really doesn't exist anywhere. However, she felt that her current situation was bound for disaster and she. She didn't want me to get dragged in. I would have gladly stood by her, but I respected her wishes nonetheless. I was at a certain point, which I did, wasn't sure I was head I was over her, but I think I was close. And I began dating another woman. I'll call Rachel. She too is beautiful and we are in a wonderful relationship. However, as long as I've been in this relationship, almost a year, I've thought about Sierra on and off. Not in a sexual way, just a kind of what if and well, maybe after this relationship kind of way. Just yesterday I got an email from her saying that she missed the things I did and that she didn't know if I was still with Rachel. She wants me to talk. She wants. She says she wants me to Talk to her more often so we can share secrets like we used to. I don't want to burn bridges with anyone, but, you know, I've really been put between a rock and a hard place. Thanks for your help. That guy.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Listen to.
Here's the thing. You're in a good relationship right now with Rachel. Sierra is something in the past. You made a decision to move on. And of course we're always going to think about our exes that just. They just float in our head. And it doesn't have to be in a sexual way. I agree. I think about my exes who I'm wondering, oh, I wonder now if that would have worked. I mean, I don't like that mourn it or regret anything. I really always say I don't have any regrets about any relationships. Cause I think you learned from all of them. I think you learned your lessons with Sierra. You had a good time. But if you really are in love with this Rachel, we always tend to look back and you would think that, what am I missing? But I would just stick move forward with Rachel. And I would say that it would also be unfair to Rachel for you to start opening up this relationship with Cyr again and start sharing your secrets. It's a form of cheating, emotional cheating. And I don't think it's cool. And I would just say, as hard as it is, because we always like that a lot of people, including myself, like that stimulation from a lot of different people. And it feels good to be intimate with this one and intimate with that one. But ultimately, if you want to do the healthy right thing, I would just shut down Sierra and keep going with Rachel. Unless you think that Rachel and you aren't working out, then you can. You're free to go back to Sierra. Yeah, agree.
Totally agree. I swear.
Okay, good.
I mean, instantly when you. After you read that, I said don't do it.
Right. I know. You said it succinctly and I took a lot longer to say it. Let's call our guest because I'm really excited to phone her up. Let me grab find the number. Okay. Here is the number. It's the second line there. We are calling Ms. Liz. She's a phone sex operator. She specializes in fetishes. She's awesome. And we're gonna get into how to talk dirty. Like, basics, like, I want phone sex 101 from her. Although she's a professional, she's been doing it since 1991. She's been doing phone Sex. She's got a really successful operation and you can follow her on Twitter and all that stuff. That's how we met virtually. And her.
Let's find her.
Keep going.
Okay. She's been doing phone sex since she was 19. And she is. Her website is bbw lizphonesex.com. bbw lizphonesex dot com.
Yeah, you're supposed to call her at a certain time.
Well, I think no one is available to take your call.
I think she was told. We'll call her back. Because I think she was told 145. Okay, but I thought we'd get it. I think she was told like 140. So we'll talk. Try back in a few minutes. Okay, so I'll read another email. Perfect.
Good.
Okay. So.
When I listen to your show. Dear Emily, when I listen to your show, it dredges up failures of relationships past.
No, we don't want to do that.
And sometimes I get really bummed out. However, I appreciate your upbeat attitude and playful banter with menace. You always say that you have no regrets. I think that's important. It makes it more practical and less painful if you're not carrying in baggage from previous relationships into new ones. David. Ah, David, that's sweet. I know what you mean. I just believe. Like I said, I'll say it again and you quote. You just quoted me in that. That I don't believe. I don't look at relationships as failures at all. I believe that we are in every relationship for a reason. This is not some kind of, like, ethereal, like, I live in Northern California and everything happens for a reason, man. But I really believe that. That. That you do learn from every relationship, hopefully.
Oh, she's coming back.
Okay, cool.
Sorry about that.
Awesome. Okay, we're gonna get into Ms. Liz. But thanks, David, for your email. I totally appreciate it and I'm glad. The show can be inspiring, too. Hello?
I think she hung up. Hold on, we'll call her back.
Okay, we're calling Ms. Liz.
Oh, God. I don't know why it automatically calls.
Some other dude. Yeah, how do I get him off our list? All right, let's try this again.
Connecting.
Connecting with Ms. Liz. Phone sex operator.
How do you get to be a phone sex operator? Can I do an audition?
I would be good at it because I've done phone sacs. I've had good phone sacs. Where do you acquire.
This is Nell speaking.
Hi.
Hi. Is this Ms. Liz?
Is this Ms. Liz?
Hello?
Hello?
I can't hear you.
Is this Ms. Liz?
I can't hear you.
How about now?
Can you hear us now?
Yeah.
Okay. Is this Ms. Liz? Who? Ms. Liz.
Liz.
Yeah. Okay, sorry, guess. What number did you dial? Night.
Okay, let me sit. Let me look at it again.
Menace is a little tired, so maybe that was it.
Let's try it again.
Okay, we'll try it again. Did you dial the wrong number?
It says nine, right? It says nine, two, eight, and in the Bay Area, there's a nine, two, five, so I think I put nine.
Oh, you did? Some more older woman just called into a sex show. That's hilarious. Hello?
Oh, I can't hear you.
What I'm most excited to talk to Ms. Liz about, though, is, like, we get a lot of calls. We get a lot of emails from people asking, like, how do you start phone sex? Like, how do you do it? And also the fetish thing. It's cool.
Sorry about that, people.
Hello?
Hi, is this Ms. Liz?
Can you hear me?
Yes. Can you hear me?
I can barely hear you.
Barely hear us.
Okay, we're gonna work on that.
How about now?
Okay. I'm so sorry about that. I heard the little old lady.
Hilarious. Oh, my God.
Is this better?
I can. I can barely hear you. Would it be better for me to turn my sound up on my computer?
Yeah.
Or to turn off her computer. Right, Menace?
No, no, that'll be a delay. Okay, Is there any way to turn up the volume on the phone that you're on right now?
I can't hear you very well at all. I know you can hear me, right?
We hear you fine. And you do have a sexy voice.
Hold on one second. How about that? Is that better?
Not changing. Oh, I'm so sorry about the technical problem.
Oh, it's okay. We'll work it out.
We'll figure it out real quick.
I had the levels a little too high for. Than it should be right now.
We've had call. We have. We.
I'm still not. I'm not able to hear anything from you guys.
Okay, okay, hold on one second.
We'll get it very, very quiet.
All right, hold on, hold on.
Ms. Liz, we will be with you in one moment right here.
How about that?
That's a little better, I guess. Let's go ahead and let's get started.
Okay. Is it. Is it. Am I really. I'm really high, though. Yeah.
This is gonna be too loud on our recording.
Should I move my.
Okay.
Okay. I don't know. It should be. Let's try that. How about. How about there? How about that?
It's not changing.
Anything.
It's not.
What do you think this could be minus?
Everything is turned out really loud.
How about the. This. The computer volume?
The computer volume is up.
Is it up all the way?
Yeah. I'm trying to think.
I can't believe I'm trying to help you.
Man all the audio settings. Sorry, everybody. I hate when this happens.
I know. This is like the bane of Mason's. Mason's Menace.
Yeah.
Okay.
If you want to go ahead and just give it a shot. I can hear Emily a little bit better than I can you mena. Okay.
Really?
Yeah, a little bit.
Right up on the microphone right now.
I know. Me too. Okay, go ahead. You talk to me. Okay. So tell me a little bit about yourself and your business.
Well, I am 38 years old, and I've been doing phone sex since I was 19. It was my very first job. Two weeks out of high school school, I saw an ad in the paper for phone actresses. And I went ahead and I knew what it was. I knew that it was going to be phone sex. I answered the ad, went through the interview, and basically they just told everybody, this is a group interview, what it was. And I'd say 80% of the women got up and left as soon as we were told we'd be talking about sex. And I loved it. I loved it. I realized I had a knack.
Right? Right.
What turns people on. I've been doing it ever since. I really enjoy it.
That's amazing. So at 19, you knew what turned people on. What turned people. So at 19, you knew what turned men on.
When I was 19.
When you were 19, you knew what turned men on.
I had to sort of figure out what turned men on just by trial and error because I was. I was honestly very, very virginal.
Right. I'm sure.
And this was before the web. I couldn't. It wasn't like somebody. Some guy could call me and say, I want you to, you know, do sounding with me or whatever.
Right.
Or some, you know, weird BDSM thing. I couldn't go to the Web and look it up. I had to just come up with something on the fly.
Right.
I had to learn trial by fire.
So what have you learned? So what would you say? Tell me about your typical clientele.
Excuse me?
Your typical clientele.
My typical clientele are men that have fetishes that they probably would never feel comfortable talking to somebody else about.
Okay.
They're cross dressers. I talk to a lot of cross dressers who consider themselves to be sissies.
A lot of my femdom clients, they're married and they're not comfortable talking to their wives about it. Especially the cross dresser clients. They tell me that if their wives know, they don't want to have anything to do with it. They're like, you go do whatever you want to do. I don't want to have anything know anything about it.
Right.
So most of my clients are guys that, they have these bizarre fetishes that sort of consume their sexual imagination and they want to just release that tension.
Right, Right.
So I do a lot of femdom. I have a lot of clients that are into giantess role play where they, they want me to be 50, 100ft tall. And for those guys, the sex act is between a huge foot and their whole body.
Wow.
I do robot role play. I do monsters, aliens, all kinds of things. It's just, can you do your, like.
How would you do a monster, how would you do a monster voice?
Usually the monster guys, they, they just want, they want me to be like a.
Siren or a succubus or some kind of creature that's going to just absolutely overwhelm them.
Wow. What do you think that is? Where does that stem from?
It's all about the monstrous part. The monstrous part is about having a woman who's absolutely aggressive with no hesitation. And that's what's behind it for the monster guys, they don't really want the voice. The robot guys, they want to hear the voice.
Okay, so you do a robot voice.
I am a sex robot. I am programmed for pleasure.
Wow.
That kind of thing.
That is amazing. Okay.
A lot of them are turned on by robots. They're malfunctioning. They want to hear me talk about master, I am experiencing a malfunction. You know, that kind of thing.
Right. For me to do that is so funny. You do have a great voice, obviously. So I. What. Let's talk about just. Okay, we're going to get into more of the stuff that you do, the. Your clients because we have some questions here about fetishes and stuff. But I want to know what about someone just starting out like phone sex 101. Right. We get a lot of emails, people that are like, I'm in a long distance relationship or I would just like to start phone text. And I just want to ask you real quickly, are you hearing me better now?
I can, I can hear you. It's not any better, but I can hear you.
Okay, great. So tell me, what would you, what would you, how would you say you'd start with phone sex? Let's Say you're a guy and you want to start having phone sex with someone or a woman. It doesn't matter.
Like a couple.
Couple. Let's say there's a couple and they're. They've been together. Yeah, exactly. To enhance their relationship. Maybe they're long distance.
Listen to each other. And for. For just straight romantic sex, a lot of it for, for men being so visual, a lot of it on the woman's part is going to be just description. If you're good at describing, that's 50% of it right there. The other 50%, when in doubt, moan.
When you've gotten to a point where you don't know what to say next, just moan. Oh, okay. Because a lot of straight callers, all they want me to do, and I very rarely talk to straight callers, but normally they just want to hear a woman moan and they want to hear a woman get off. Wow. That's another big thing. Okay, who's on the phone? He wants to hear his. His partner. Absolutely. In the throes of ecstasy. They love moaning.
Really.
You know, just listen to what he's. What he's talking about. Follow his lead a little bit. And then when you don't know what to do next, just. Oh, that feels so good.
That's amazing. And then what about. So you say the women. Men are very visual and they want a lot of description from the women. And the men just want moans. But they also want description too, right? I mean, women. What about the women? What do you think the women want? They want to be told that the guy loves them or they're hot. I don't know. What do you think?
You know what women would want to hear from the guy? I think, think.
I don't really. I don't know. In all this time, I've never really looked at it from that point of view, but I guess it would just for the guy, tell her how gorgeous she is. Tell her how much she turns you on.
Exactly.
The things that you wish that you were there to be touching.
I agree.
Looking at or to be enjoying about her.
I totally agree.
She doesn't want the porn star stuff about. Yeah, take it, baby. You like that? Who's your daddy?
No, no, she doesn't exactly.
Admire.
Exactly.
Yes, exactly.
I think that would work for a guy.
Yeah, I think so too.
Do phone sex with his partner. Yeah.
Okay. Those are some good tips because a lot of you will just. They don't get it. They don't how to do it. They're scared, they're Nervous. They're shy.
I'm sorry, Emily, I can't hear you.
Okay, Menace. She can't hear me right now.
Can you hear me now? He's playing with the buttons. Barely. Barely.
I'm so sorry about that.
Oh, no, it's probably our fault. No.
Can you hear me now? She can't hear me. Can you hear me?
I can hear. I can hear you a little bit.
Go ahead. Okay, great. Okay, so what are some of your limits and your, like, taboo topics? Like, what are the things that you won't go for?
I prefer not to have anything to do with age play, underage, role play.
None of that.
Part of it is because the platform that I use doesn't allow it. There are certain topics like that that are taboo, but I'm just as happy to go along with that because that makes me uncomfortable.
I enjoy what I do. I don't talk about these taboo topics because they're uncomfortable for me. And that gives them a bad call.
Right.
That gives my caller a call that's not as enjoyable.
Yeah, I get it. You got to be into it all.
The weirdness, and I know the strange little unique things that turn people on.
Tell me about some of the strange things. Can you tell me about some of those strange things that would surprise us, perhaps?
Like what?
Like some of the strange calls you get. Just some of the most bizarre. Yeah.
I have had some very, very, very strange goals.
I had a caller who started out fairly normal. He wanted to do weight gain, which was. He wanted me to be gaining a lot of weight.
Okay.
And as the calls went on, he kept adding more things. First it was weight gain. Then he added that he wanted me to be having an orgasm every time I ate, which I'm stuffing my face with cheeseburgers and pretending to be, you know, this inflated, huge.
Right.
Then he wanted me to be smoking cigarettes. Then he added farting because I was smoking cigarettes and taking in air. Then he added in lactation. And then he added in that I was turning into a werewolf. As all of this is happening.
Oh, my God.
I'm having to pretend on the phone to be a woman the size of a queen size bed who's stuffing her face with cheeseburgers, moaning orgasmically, smoking cigarettes, farting, blowing milk around the room and turning into a werewolf, completely howling.
There is something for everyone. Oh, my God, you must get. And you've been doing it for so long.
Another favorite was a guy that he had a cannibalism fetish. He wanted to be eaten. And when he first contacted Me, he asked me to do a custom video where I butchered a rabbit, which I told him, no, I will not do that. Then he said, okay, you buy a freshly butchered rabbit, roast it and then eat it wearing an evening gown and opera gloves. And he wanted me to just eat it like a savage, just ripping it with my teeth, grease flying everywhere. And the point of it was the rabbit was him.
Right.
And I, we never worked out that I would do the video because I told him, if I'm gonna buy an evening gown, you're paying for it.
Right.
I'll never be able to wear this again.
Exactly. Oh my God. So they just.
Some of my callers just have such weird fantasies that they're shocked that I can understand.
And you just go there. I'm sure after all this time you can just go there with them. Like you just know, like you can navigate. You can always probably tell from the first few minutes they're talking to you. Can you tell us about this? I know this is so Fetish 101 and you're probably going to even, you know, we should know more about this. But we do are curious. We get a lot of emails about the foot fetish. So why the foot fetish? Why so prevalent?
I think it has to do with. And don't quote me on this.
I will not.
I have read that the area of the brain that's involved with sexual arousal is closely tied to the area of the brain where foot sensation.
Oh, okay.
And it may be that there's some kind of crossing there for other, other guys. It may be that they had some kind of foot related incident happen to them at the moment that or the point that they were building their, their sexual identity.
A lot of it goes back to when people are young. Right. And they were.
What was that?
A lot of things go back to when people were young and develop a lot of fetishes go back to when people were young.
Very, very.
Flexible, very permeable time in your life when you're, when you're figuring out who you are as a human being.
Right.
A lot of things can influence in the weirdest ways. I myself, I kind of enjoy doing the alien calls because I kind of have that as a personal kink.
That comes from watching sci fi movies when I was that age, five or six.
Right. So you can just go, oh my God. You're like every man's fantasy. So talk about the sissy phone sex fetishes and kink. That's something kind of.
Sorry, I can't hear you. Though.
Okay, can you talk about. Can you hear me now?
Not when you talk lower.
Can you hear me now?
Yeah, I can hear you. Go ahead.
Okay. What about the sissy phone fetishes and kinks?
The what?
The sissy. Your.
I don't know. Sissy? Yes.
Oh, I love sissies.
Okay, tell me about that.
There are a lot of men that they want to cross dress, and they find it more psychologically comfortable to do it in a fem dom context, because then it's not their. Their choice.
What do you mean by fem don for people who don't know.
Oh, female domination.
Right.
Like a dominatrix.
Right.
And that's a.
That want to be dominated by a woman.
Right. Okay. And just like that, when for them.
It'S more psychologically comfortable to have a woman forcing them to do this, and they can. They can relax and enjoy it.
And so how does it work? Do they call, like, is there like something, a form they have to fill out beforehand, or do you just go with it? They.
They just. They call me, and usually.
I have.
To figure it out on the fly, you know, just question them about what they're into. And. And being a dominatrix on the phone makes that a little bit easier because I can command them.
Right.
Basically.
Do you get my questions right? Do you get turned up?
I have enough experience over the years that based on which of my lines they call female domination, the sissy line, whichever. I've already got a pretty good idea of what they're looking for. And with a couple of questions at the right point, I can usually figure out what they're after without really having to do a lot of questioning.
Right. You're like one of those people who can recognize a song within a few bars. I'm sure you can. Like, the guy calls you and you're like, yeah, for real. I can see that you've been doing it for so long.
The way I visualize it is I kind of have a flowchart in my head, and I'm trying to stay two or three branches ahead of the caller.
Right.
You know, I'm listening to their voice, I'm listening to their breathing, I'm listening to what they're saying and what they're not. And I'm making my next choice as to what to do based on my experience with other callers like them, my experience with them themselves, if they're a regular, and how I feel that they want to go today. It's a lot of fun.
It seems like a lot of fun. And you get to do it from your home, Right? Yeah.
I'm doing this in bed with my laptop propped up on pillows.
I love it. Do you get turned on? Do you get turned on.
Really?
No. Because I am so busy mentally trying to keep ahead of them. Remember what I've. What I've talked to them before about, because some of them have long, ongoing stories that we're doing. I'm too busy, really.
Right.
And the callers that I do get turned on are very few and far between, and they're usually the ones that they call for the same kind of thing I'm into, which is the alien role play, alien abduction, that kind of thing.
Okay, so they want you to be. They. They want you to be the alien that abducts. Abducts them.
I couldn't hear you.
They want you to be the alien that abducts them.
Yes, they want me to be the.
Alien that forces them sexually to give in and surrender. I have a couple of alien roleplay callers that. One of them is into pantyhose. So all of his aliens take over the universe through pantyhose. And another one has a fixation on prehensile hair. His aliens have hair, tentacles that they use to, you know, take over mankind. It's always a lot of fun, I'm sure.
Have you ever had something that you were just like, you couldn't do that I couldn't do? Yeah. With someone ever like you just like, I can't go there. I guess those are your taboos.
The guys that call in and they want to talk about snuff, they want to talk about me killing them.
All right.
They want to talk about me killing other people. I'm not comfortable with that.
Okay.
And I just. I. It makes me seriously uncomfortable because some. Some femdom callers want to go that far. They want me to order them to do things that will actually hurt or kill them.
Right.
And those are the cases where I'm. I can't be on board with it. I'm sorry.
I can't do. Right, exactly. I understand that. Can you talk about the psychology behind some of the fem dons that call in?
Like, the basic psychology, I find, is.
Partly because sexual roles have changed in our society a lot of times. I find that men.
Subconsciously.
They live in a world where they're now subordinate to women in a lot of different areas. Their wife may be the one that runs things. They may have a female boss or female superiors of some kind, and they have this submissive side to them that they're trying to figure out a way to release that need to be submissive, and it falls into this female dominant, male, submissive sort of set of roles.
And that's the majority of your clientele, right?
Excuse me, then that.
That would be the majority of your clientele.
Yes, the majority. They're. They're very interested in dominant women. For some of them, I represent a woman who's even more dominant than usual because I'm big.
Because I. Yeah, let's talk about that. The people who are fascinated with the bbw. So your website. And we'll have this on our website if people want to check you out. But it's BBW lizphonesex.com.
Yes.
So talk about the BBW.
The big beautiful woman.
Yes. The people with.
Yeah, I enjoy being. I enjoy my size and my callers. I never get anything but the most positive reinforcement possible from my callers. And the thing that they tell me they love the most about me being a bbw, when they look at my pictures, they want two things. They want to see that great big butt of mine. Because remember earlier in the show you were like, I like big butts. Yeah, they do. And they like my confidence. Like the fact that I look like I like who I am. Yeah, I'm happy.
That's amazing. That's what men want to see. Women are so insecure. And I think that you're a great role model for women that you are so confident with who you are and you've met. You've made a living out of it too. So they just.
They want to see a woman who is completely in control of herself, and the confidence is part of that. I find it very, very erotic in a way that makes them want to bow down to it.
Well, you're doing great work for the men out there. I totally appreciate it. Thank you so much for calling in. I'm sorry about the technical stuff, but we will. It's so nice to be connected with you. I love you.
Come back someday.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I can actually hear you.
Oh, I know. I'm sorry about that. But we will post this show and we will, will, will be in touch. But thank you so much for sharing all this. Thank you for having me on.
Have a great time.
Have a great. Have a great weekend. Happy phone sexing. Thanks for the advice. Okay, talk to you soon. Bye, Miss Liz.
Bye.
Sorry about that. I have no idea because we've made.
Plenty of calls from here.
Yeah, and it was no problem. I checked every single implant.
I know you did, honey.
She was. We could, we could totally hear her fine. The level I was blowing out your levels to just so she could hear you a little bit better.
Don't know. Anyway, we gotta go. It's okay. Thanks Ms. Liz, so much for but.
I really would like to have her on the show again because I have so many questions. I just don't want to confuse her.
Let's have her. Let's have a call in again. Ms. Liz, you're calling in again. We'll set it up with you. Thanks everyone for listening to Sex With Emily. Happy Free Friday. Was it good for you? Email me feedbackexwithemily.com there's one overlooked mineral behind better sleep.
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