How to be The Cowboy of Her Dreams

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No, I'm just kidding. I really won't tell your name. But. But we do. Actually, I've been told that we do send very interesting emails to you. Not a lot, but just stuff with some more tips that you might want and tricks. And so check that out. So today, tonight, I'm really excited about my guest because this guest really, really intrigues me. I get so many requests every single day. My inbox is flooded. Literally. Like, I have my assistant now. I'm like, I can't handle it. Because everyday, publicists, authors, everyone is pitching me to get people on my show, right? Because I'm talking about sex and relationships, and I'm just like, a lot of times it's kind of blow, you know, they don't interest me. And I know they won't interest you. So I'm like, no, they're not great. They're not great. I'd rather go out and find the interesting people to be on my show. But when this one came through, I was, like, all over it. I said, I've got to get this guy on my show. So my guest is Garen James. He's the founder of cowboyforangels.com, cowboy for angels, cowboy number four. It's a male escort service for women. And so you might be wondering, why does this interest me? Because I've actually been asked on a number of occasions by people. It was just recently someone said, why aren't there escort agencies for women? Like, why wouldn't a woman want that? And I thought, you know, I don't know. I mean, there probably isn't. And I thought, well, women wouldn't want to pay. I mean, we want the realness. We want a man to love us and cherish us and make us feel beautiful. And then if we pay for it, there'll be all these diminishing returns. It won't really feel real. But then I get this email from Garen, and I hear all about his service, and it's for straight, busy women who can hire a straight, beautiful man. Models, in fact, and they can have the whole boyfriend experience. And I looked more into their site. They have a really popular show you might have seen. It's called Gigolos on Showtime. It's like in its fifth or sixth season, right, Karen? Fifth. And I thought, oh, my God, this is the real deal. And I thought, thinking, though, the website is not about sex. It's about companionship. It's about treating women special. And I'm also wondering, what if women fall in love and what happens? But the really interesting thing is that if you look through the site, it's like these guys. It's not every guy can go out and become an example escort. These guys know about treating a woman the right way. They have that natural. That natural, you know, thing that a lot of you guys and women are looking for to get the woman or man of your dreams. And so I want to find out from Garen, what do these know? They must know what women really want, because women are shelling out a lot of money to have a great date with these guys. So I think I want to learn, like, what have they all learned about being with women? And because that's their job. Like, their job is to be like, the perfect first date, like, our weekend date. And I know you all want to know what that is, too. And the site actually says, and first of all, I also want to know what have these men learned about women and what has he learned about women from this? Because you must learn a ton. And their site is so interesting because it says, we offer exclusive male companionship for healthy distraction with no strings attached. And I'm thinking, well, is it a healthy distraction? So it's really, no strings attached. So it's just like a night out. It's not sex. It's just like, I want a night out with. I know it's gonna be a good date. Cause I've kissed a lot of frogs and they're all awful. And I just want. And it says whether it's an elegant dinner date with the man of your dreams, or if you just want to skate for a while and be pampered, I'm thinking this sounds pretty good. I'm a busy woman. I want to be pampered. I want a foot massage. So, you know, I'm just interested in this all around because it is a phenomenon. And there's, you know, the show is really popular. And so, Garen James, welcome to my show and thank you for coming on. It's so good to see you.

Thank you so much. That was such a long introduction.

Was it? Well, I really felt it from my heart. I just was thinking about this where you came in. I'm like, I gotta explain why, Like, I haven't had anyone like you.

You don't have, like, video of you on the website when people click on and, like, there's you saying all those nice things.

Okay, well, maybe we could work out some kind of arrangement. If you give me a free weekend with one of your escorts, then we can talk about a trade or something. Okay, so that's topic tonight. We're talking about that. Also, it's masturbation month. So May is masturbation month.

Oh, my God.

Yeah. You didn't know that? I mean, I'm sure you're thinking, well, isn't every month masturbation month? But masturbation month. This is the month that you should all be working on your own sex life. And the ways your sex life is going to improve. Number one, no matter what I've told you, is when you figure out your own body and what makes you feel good. And there are so many erogenous zones on your body that believe me, you have not even found yet. So even if you're in a relationship, you're dating someone, doesn't matter, you should still leave time for masturbation. So happy masturbation month. And Garen. Okay, so let's talk. How did you welcome. You live in San Francisco.

I live in Fort Lauderdale. Vegas.

Okay. The Florida Vegas. Okay, got it. I don't know why, because we. Some sound in San Francisco came up. Okay, got it. So. So. Cowboys for Angels. Largest street male escort agency. Tell me about how you got started in this industry. We got to get that out of the way first.

Well, I wanted to first thank you for having me on, by the way.

Oh, my pleasure.

You're very beautiful. Thank you. Listeners know how pretty you are.

I don't know, because, I mean, it's just a voice.

It's a voice.

I think they like my voice. Yeah. Thank you. That's very sweet of you.

Thank you for having me on the show.

Yeah. Are you one of the experts? Because this is good. This would feel really good if we were on a date right now. I'd be like, yes, I want to hear I'm beautiful.

Yes. Yes. No, I don't.

I know you're the owner, but you're doing well.

Yeah, I pretty much am booking now. So one of the rules with the men is, like, you can't be on your phone. So I constantly am on the phone, so.

Right. Oh. So I never did either.

And I'm married.

Oh, you're married.

Yeah.

Okay. Got it. So.

So my wife is Colombian, right.

Oh, she would.

She's Colombian.

Yeah. She'd have you killed or she would kill yourself. Yeah.

I might lose a few parts right now.

We don't want that to happen at all, I'm sure. So. Yeah. Well, thank you. Well, thank you for saying that. That's very nice, and I'm glad you came. Made the trip to be on the show.

So Cowboys for Angels was started about five years ago, and I had a girlfriend that owned a agency, Women for men, very large agency in New York. And while I was with her, I was helping her run the agency. So I learned the business, and then I started to do some research about men for women. And I noticed that in Europe.

There was a few websites for men, for women only. And then when I looked in the United States, there was men that were for men that also saw women. So I kind of had the impression that a woman would not want to hire a man that she knew is just with a man the night before.

Right.

So it was kind of like a myth here that there was a male escort for women, because why would a woman hire a man that was also seeing men? So I started a website and said it was exclusively for women. And we've gotten so many calls from men. And I tell them, thank you so much. We're honored, but there's other agencies out there for you.

Okay.

So the men that I hire are not bisexual or.

Okay, so they're all straight men, and they're models. They're educated. And I was watching an interview with you because I've Done my research and it said that, you know, these guys, you can't teach it either. They got, I mean, there's rules, but they kind of have that swagger. They already know how to treat a woman. They know how to make a woman feel special, which obviously a lot of men fail at in this world. I mean, so can you tell when a guy walks in, do they come in for like audition interviews and they.

Well, the first thing I generally look at is a photo. I mean, it's plain and simple. He's got a look like when he walks into a room, heads have to turn because that's what makes a client feels. Feel great when she's walking into a room.

Right.

But you know, that's when it gets difficult because I've gotten so many photos of great looking guys. And then I call them for an interview and they tell me how great looking they are. Tell me, oh my God, you know, the other day I was walking down the street and somebody asked to buy my sperm because they want to have my children.

Right.

I'm like, okay, right.

And so then their ego, they're like, you're not gonna be right for one because you're gonna talk about yourself the whole time.

Yeah. You're gonna be horrible.

Right.

You're gonna want, you're used to like a woman worshiping you. So this isn't gonna work out for you because we're here to worship the client. So that's a big thing right away is just checking that ego with a guy. And if he's just a genuinely nice guy who happens to be really good looking is great, who's college educated and who can make somebody smile or be very personable right away.

Okay.

And that's one of the biggest things as well is that ability to sit down with somebody and open up right away and make them feel comfortable.

So that's what these traits are. So these guys, what would you say is a common trait then? That I read somewhere that they all have to be like over six feet tall, which I appreciate that. Sorry, guys, I do tend to date over 6ft tall, even though I'm only 5. 2 college educated model types and true gentlemen. So is there any training and kind of zhuzhing you have to do with them when they come in? I mean, what do they.

Well, I give them the list of rules of what to do, what not to do.

What are the rules? Give me some of the rules. Because these rules, I think can help a lot of listeners too who want to wondering, why didn't she call Me, after that date, because let me just tell you, I went on a date recently with this guy, and he. The whole night he drove me. We drove somewhere. It was like we were driving a half hour, and he didn't ask one question about myself, about me. He didn't ask. It was all about. We were talking about his car like it was stupid. I didn't even care. And I'm thinking, okay, maybe he's nervous. Guys get nervous. But it was even on the way back, nothing. And I just thought, there's such a basic thing that men, that so many guys just miss it. And I know he likes me. I know he's been into me. Like, I know he really does, but he didn't know. And he's a good guy. So those are the kind of things that these guys just know. Or do you have to also kind of train them and say, you know, you gotta make sure it's about her.

Well, usually what I explain to the new gentleman that I hire is that.

There'S something going on right now in America. And. And the thing is that there was an article out recently in Time magazine not too long ago about women and men in society, and that women in their 20s who are college educated and have no children are now making more money per hour than men.

Finally.

Yeah. So you have a problem here. Here's the problem now.

Boys are growing up to where they're the man. You're the man. You're the provider. You say, what's going on? You got the bankroll. You make the rules in the house. You know, you're the man.

Right?

And so now there's a problem because the man isn't the man anymore. And so women who are making more money than men, they're going out on dates, and a guy is like, I'm the man. And she's like, no, you're not the man. And so you have a problem with the way women are being treated, because now they feel like, hey, I need to be treated. You know, I get to make the decisions now. And so I think that's one of the biggest things where our need comes in, is that we're that gentleman. You know, we're going back to the day that you're supposed to be, you know, a real gentleman and just do those tiny little things that guys, they don't do because they think they're the man.

Right.

You know, and just pushing in chairs and.

And so women still. So let me just understand you. So women still, they're not. They're not letting them Be the men. But they still want the man to treat, to make them feel feminine.

Definitely.

And make them feel like a woman in the ways that they can. Like pushing in the chair. It's not about their bank account, but it's about their, you know. Yeah. Treating like doing things like that. Opening the door, asking questions. It's making them feel special.

Yeah, it's like very, it's, it's so simple. But so many men don't do it.

Right.

It's just in greeting the person and then, and then having a conversation and being with that person and not being, you know, looking in different directions, looking to see who's there or being on your phone. That's, that's like rule number.

Oh my God. Right? Don't be on your phone ever. On a date when you're. I just go to the bathroom and pretend and then I check my email, but I never do it in front of the guy.

That's one of the biggest things actually that I, that I have gotten complaints about was he looked at his phone.

Right. Well, that's a good one. Do they get reviews after?

Oh yeah, I always get a review.

Oh my God. So tell me about the typical woman then. That, that, that signs up for your, your service that hires an escort from you.

That's. I wish there was a typical.

There isn't.

It's so strange. We have women in their 20s to 30s, to 40s to 50s.

Some women are.

In a rough spot, some women are going through a divorce. Some women have had a traumatic experience. And some women are just traveling to New York and in there for business and want to have fun for the night, don't want to go sit at a bar and hopefully something happens that's fun. They want something that's guaranteed fun and pre screened guy.

And so does the guy plan the date? Does the escort plan the date or does the woman plan the date?

No, because it's funny because when a client will call and say, you know, well, what do we do on the date? What does he want to do? And I said, listen, like it's about you. You're paying. Normally if a guy's gonna bring you out, he's saying, I'm paying, I get to pick the restaurant. This is what we're gonna do, this is what we're gonna go after. And this is your opportunity to do whatever you want and he's there to accompany you.

Okay.

So you have like the control.

You have the control. So the woman makes a date. So, okay, so a lot of you are gonna Assume. And I know that you've said this on the site and stuff, but it's not about sex. They're not having sex. Cause I hear escort, I hear sex. I hear you have a good night's dinner, and then you go home and have sex. Perhaps.

Well, the laws are pretty clear. Like an s. Court agency. If you sell sex, if you contract for sexual services, then you're breaking a law, right? So our agency doesn't contract for any sexual services.

Okay? So if someone says, I want to get laid tonight, you're like, call someone else. But if it happens, they don't. You. You don't know about it. You can't. You can't do anything about it. Like, you can't. If she doesn't tell you, he doesn't tell you. The sex could. Let's just say the sex happens.

Let me ask you a question.

Yeah, we're gonna divert the question here. What?

Do you like pizza?

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like pizza.

You like sausage on your pizza?

I actually don't like sausage on pizza. Mushrooms just like sausage. Yeah, I like. I love sausage.

Yeah.

Okay, so I love sausage. Okay, so I love those big chunks of sausage that are girthy on my pizza.

There you go.

Yeah. All right.

So you're home, you're alone, and you order a pizza. And you order a large sausage pizza, right?

Mm.

Okay. So the delivery boy gets there, and you open the door, and you're like, oh, my God.

Sounds like a porn I saw once. Okay. Yeah.

This delivery boy delivering this large sausage pizza. It's hot. And you invite him in, and you guys sit and you're talking and you have fun, and one thing leads to another, and all of a sudden, you and him are having sex, Right.

Are we eating the pizza, too, or.

No?

No, we don't eat the pizza. Okay, Got it. I thought we eat the pizza first, and then we have sex. Okay. Got it. I'm kidding. Okay, so then we're having sex, right?

The pizza's cold.

Right. Cal cares. Yeah.

And he leaves. Now. You contracted him to deliver a pizza. That was what the contract was for. You paid him to deliver this pizza with sausage. With large sausage pizza. So did you break a law? No. You didn't break any law. So, you know, people are contracted for many different things, and they. They have. They ended up having sex. So, like, now if the pizza boy showed up and he was delivering the pizza, and you said to him.

You'Re pretty hot. You know, can I purchase some sex from you?

Right?

And he was like, yeah. Then Then you just broke a law.

Okay, got it. But what if I gave him a really big tip.

After we had sex?

You know, tipping, you know, if you said to him, I'm going to give you a big tip if you have sex with me.

Right. That'd be wrong.

That's wrong.

But if he laughed and I put a hundred dollar bill in his pocket and slapped his ass as it.

That's sexy.

As he walked out the door. That's hot. Okay, so I get it. So we're not going to talk about. But sex could happen. But you don't know anything about it and we don't. That's not what it is.

If it's consensual between two people and they're looking at each other and things get romantic, then things get romantic. But just like with, you know, your pizza guy, I mean, you just looked at him and he was hot and it was hot and you guys had some romance.

Right? Right.

Pizza got cold.

But I was ordering. These women are ordering dates with alcohol and they're going out to dinners. Right. Okay, so this is the thing. So a woman. So these are women that are all ages, you said, and they just want to have a night. Now how much does it cost for a night?

It depends on the gentleman and it depends on how long. A lot of women like to schedule for four hours overnights. So some of the rates are for four hour thousand to some of the guys that are more notorious, so to speak, that are on the Gigolo show.

Oh, right. Oh, the Gigolo Show. Right. On Showtime. So everyone can check it out. It's in its fifth season. Yes. Okay. On Showtime. It's a hit show. Congratulations on that. And you're on it.

Yes.

Okay. Right. Good for you. That's amazing. So you're on. It is like more of that. You're the boss.

Yes, I am. I serve as the creative consultant for the show. So I help them finding the women for the show and the men for the show and give them some of.

The sort of storyline stuff. I know, I know how it all goes down. But appearances. Yeah. Okay. So the women. Okay, so first let's go back to the actual service. Then we can talk about the show, which is different, I think, than the service, but these women. So I'm thinking about, you know, women who is it kind of women who just can't find dates otherwise. Or they're just, they're. They're lonely or they just want to. Maybe they want to impress someone at a charity event that it's everything. Right. Okay, so the guy shows us. So tell me, what are some of the things that you. That you've learned in this business? That, that all. If you can make some universal things that, like, women want from these guys, that these guys provide that they're not getting from all these other dates that they're finding on Match or wherever, Tinder, what is it these guys do that's different? I mean, yeah, they're good looking, but, you know, after someone opens their mouth, they're like, but these guys are smart, they're college educated. What else do they do with these women? Can you explain the experience?

I really think that they make them feel beautiful. And that's. I think a woman really wants to feel that. I mean, one of them.

You made me feel that right away. You're so good. I'm gonna give you a really big tip.

I get a review?

Yeah.

Good review.

Good review. So they want to feel beautiful. That's true.

Yeah. And just get that attention. That attention that. It's so funny when clients call and they're booking an appointment and I'm like, hey, Ash, is Ash Armand. He's one of the really good guys. Hey, Ash Armand's 10 minutes away. They're like, oh, my God, I'm so nervous.

Right?

And I'm like, no, this is not a blind date.

Right.

You don't have to be on your best behavior.

Right, Exactly. You can do whatever you want.

Have fun. Like, you should not be nervous. It doesn't matter tomorrow, because he's kind.

Of a celebrity now. So then maybe that's why they're nervous, right?

Yeah, just. Well, even if it's not a celebrity.

They still get nervous.

I'm sure women get nervous.

Yeah.

And I'm like, listen, you're paying to, like, not be nervous, right?

Right, exactly. You're paying like, that's the one thing you're paying for. And you're in charge, right?

Yeah. You're in charge. You're there to have fun. You don't have to be on your best behavior. Just be whoever you want for the night.

Because.

Because he's not gonna. You're not worried if he's gonna call you tomorrow.

Right. But then don't women get it? See, but here's the thing. Women get attached. So isn't there ever a case where women. Which is good for your business if they keep hiring the same guy over and over again? Is there like a limit to that? Like, you can't. Where is it? Like, well, hey, any prices. You pay enough money, you can have them all month. You can have them all year.

Here's the situation with that.

When women use and men get attached. I shouldn't say that.

When women use the service, they know what they're getting into right from the beginning. So it's like we're being honest right from the beginning. We're not con artists. We're not. Even though the word gigolo is like.

Yeah, the word gigolo.

I didn't.

You didn't name the show. I get it.

But we're not there to con them and bring them along for the ride. You know, one of my policies is that once your appointment's over, I'll do a quick follow up and say, did you have fun? And then I will never contact you again.

Think you're not gonna be like, hey, never. You're not salesy, right?

No, we don't. If you ever want to use our service again, great. If not, no problem. You know, hopefully you had fun for that night. So.

They know what they're getting into from the beginning. So I think that they are obviously smart and intelligent enough to know that this is something that they're doing for fun.

Right.

And falling in love with that.

We can't help it. We get a tat. This guy, we just paid the perfect prince charming to walk in the room and treat me exactly how I want to be treated. And he's hot. And we may or may not have sex if I paid for the overnight, or we might just watch, you know, hbo. I don't know. But I'm feeling attached. My serotonin is going crazy. I'm getting attached. And so, you know, I just think that that could be hard for some women, maybe that they, you know. And I'm wondering, has there ever been a case where someone fell in love or actually there was like a connection? Well, because you can't stop that.

Yeah, no, no. I had one of the clients and one of the guys, they were. They saw each other regularly and.

He called me one day and said, hey, I'm gonna start seeing her outside. And she was in. And I was like, listen, now you have my blessing. You know, obviously, if you guys have a connection, go for it.

You didn't try to take like 20% of anything. No, you can't. Right. But I would think it'd be in their contracts if they're not allowed to. But then how can you stop love?

Yeah.

So there can't be laws against falling in love.

Exactly. And they were dating and it ended up to where she didn't like what he was Doing for work.

Oh, yeah, right.

Didn't work out.

Right. That's like, a lot of. Many day porn stars are strippers, and they're like, I love you, you know? But this reminds me of, like, a lot of women. I hear a lot of guys say this. They're like, I went to strip club. Oh, she was so into me all night long. I could tell she really liked me. No, she really. Emily. No, no, really, she really liked me. I'm like, dude, how many. How much money did you spend on there? Yeah, no, no, she really, like, she gave me her number.

Yeah.

I'm like, okay. Okay. So that's what strippers do. Whatever they pretend that they, you know, they make. That's what their job is, is to make you feel, like, desirable and sexy and hot, and they sit on your lap and you get a boner and the whole thing. So I could see that a lot of women kind. No, I know I paid him, but, like, I remember feeling that way. This just flashed in my head, which is kind of messed up. I remember having babysitters when I was like, seven or eight, being like, I know my mom pays you, but you'd really be here with me tonight, wouldn't you, if you didn't? Because we're having so much fun. I remember thinking that, like, even if she didn't get paid, she'd still want to hang out with me because I'm a fun kid, but she'd probably be out on Saturday night with her friends. You know what I'm saying? So there's that thing that you can kind of be delusional in a way, and I could think that that would happen with a lot of women's emotions, and that could get tricky, but. But hopefully. But it seems like your service is very successful in that women, A lot of women are just having a good night. A good night.

Yeah. Most of the women that do use the service are very successful. They don't have time to date anyway. Not looking for that. So that's. We fill that gap in the month. Do we? Did I say that? Fill the gap?

Yeah, fill the gap. I don't know. Why is that bad? Fill the time in the month. What do you mean, why is that bad?

Just sounded dirty.

Gap.

We fill up our gap.

I know everything sounds dirty on the show, no matter what. A coffee. Like, you say cock. I'm like, no, I said, get me a coffee. Like, I swear to God, that happens all the time. So what. What do you think that these men know about women and treating women that that other guys don't. Don't know really. Like, did I already ask that? I kind of already asked at the beginning. But like, but like, I really am. Like, I want to explain. Like they make her feel beautiful. You know, they don't have to have a lot of money because guys are always thinking of a lot of money. I'm this and that. But. But what is it about the. Besides take the looks out of it. Because then there's guys listening going, oh, but I'm not six feet tall. And I'm. It's not even about that.

No, it's crazy. I had a friend who was 5 foot 6 and he was.

A little bit older and he had so many women falling all over him and he just was. He had that thing about him. So I know it's not about the height. I know it's not about the looks.

You gotta have that thing, it's confidence. We always talk about that.

Yes, it's confidence and it's humor and that personable thing that you have to have. You have to like honestly be interested in other people and not be so self centered. Because that's one of the biggest things that is a problem is self centeredness.

Right. People truly aren't interested in other people. They don't ask questions, they don't, they don't care.

They just worried about themselves. And so you have to find people that are into other people.

Right.

And so, you know, it sounds so simple, but it's so hard. I mean, I've had over 7,000 employment.

Oh my God, I'm sure.

And I represent 40 to 50 people at a time.

It's only 40 to 50. Okay, and how many of those are working a week?

We're very busy.

Yeah. That's amazing. And what's your, what cities are you in?

Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Florida, New York, Atlanta, Chicago. Okay, so yeah, got it.

And they will fly for. Yeah.

And guys will travel for work. If, if somebody lives in Minnesota, we can fly them out there. That's not a problem. The client just generally pays for the airfare. And we're not here to fly first class. It's whatever the flight costs.

Good to know. You could use miles.

Yeah. If you want to use miles.

If you want to use miles, use your miles. If those miles are wasting away, you might as well get a gigolo flown. Flown to Michigan even where I'm from. So I was reading something you wrote about that it's important that a gigolo makes his date feel safe and relaxed. So I'm wondering, how do they do that. Like, what are some tips to help just like an average guy, how do they make their dates feel comfortable? Because I think when a woman does feel safe and relaxed, she can really be herself. And she can be. So, I mean, what kind of gestures? Is it touching? Is it?

Yes, that's one of the big things is just having a little bit of contact with somebody. One of the first things when you meet somebody is to, like, give her a little hug, give her a kiss on the cheek.

Just like you tell that, right? And I read that you train them some of this stuff, right? Like, you have to kiss her, give her a kiss on the cheek.

Just give a little contact. And when you're sitting across the table from someone, like, let's do this now. Let's hold hands. Oh, no, my wife.

We're not taping this.

No, go ahead.

We can't. We're practicing.

So right now we're, you know, just.

Now we're double handing. Like, I put my hand down and then he put his hand on mine and he's really cute. P.S. you got to check out the video. We're doing a little video of the show, by the way.

So just little things like this and. And just really eye contact. Eye contact and in focus with the person and not checking out.

Don't check out the hot check. No, that would be. No, no. I would think that would be like a review that you'd get from a woman to be like, he was checking out the girl next to me. So do they go through, like a training process once you hire them? If they have, like, the general skills?

Yeah. The interview process is generally. First, it starts with the employment request on the website, a phone call, Skype interview, and then I fly out to meet them. Like, I'm actually here in Los Angeles interviewing three guys.

Okay.

And then I generally.

Do you want me to test them out?

I was just gonna ask.

Oh, my God. Seriously? I was just thinking. I was kidding. But not.

Have you a tester?

Do you have testers?

I. I could use a good tester. I think you'd be a good tester.

Yes, I would be so good. I'm fun. I'm good. I'm a good date. I totally want to be a tester. When? Tonight. I have to do Loveline tonight. Seriously, do you really have women? Because I would think that you'd have to, in a way. You wouldn't want to send them out and have them be like a psycho, you know?

Yeah, I do have. Well, we do background checks, right?

Oh, you do yeah, you have to.

But I have several clients that are, I guess you could say regular clients who have given me permission to contact them if I have somebody new. And they'll. They'll generally go out with the gentleman for a few hours and just give me some feedback from a woman's perspective. Yeah. Really, the guys tonight that I'm hiring.

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There's no scent.

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Exactly.

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Well, I'd rather go 40 minutes.

All right.

Instead of 25.

Right. Well, that's good that you go 25. Sometimes we get tired. There are other guys that go two hours. You're like, really? No, but. So anyway. That's right. So let's go back to my date tonight. So these guys are cute. They're in la. They're hot.

Yeah. Oh, the new guys.

Yeah, these are the guys I'm gonna go on a date with.

Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. You want to see photos?

Yeah.

I gotta pull them up.

I'll say it. Okay, so. So these guys, you test them out. You have. I was. I was kidding that you have testers, but you actually do have testers. You gotta test them out. Right? I would do that. I wouldn't even. What if I slept with them, though? Would you want to know? I won't sleep with them.

I want to know if you.

I could tell you if they're getting better or not. No, I won't sleep with them. I wouldn't sleep with them on the first date.

I don't know if I'd get upset about that.

Oh, you'd be jealous.

I'd be a little jealous.

Aw, that's so sweet. Okay, well, I just won't tell you.

Okay, so you just gotta say he's amazing or not.

Right. Because I actually have date. I gotta be honest. One of my skills. I have few skills, but I'm good at them. And I've made a lot I'm good at. I'm a really good dater. And I think I'm really good at sex and having sex and teaching about sex. What else am I good at? Those are two things I'm pretty good at. And so, yeah, I'd be a good tester for you because I can tell you I know a good date and a bad date, like, right off the bat, you know? Yeah, exactly. So can these gigolos that work for you, they can date in their off time, right?

Of course.

And do you think a lot of them keep it from their girlfriends because their girlfriends don't want to know? No. Their girlfriends have to be down with it.

Yeah. Yeah.

Just like guys you date, strippers or escorts.

I'm. I'm very. I just. I work with people that are just honest people. And so, like, if somebody's working for the agency and they're dating someone and. Or they're not dating anyone, and then they call me and say, oh, I've been dating this girl. What should I tell her what I do? And I say, yeah, of course. Be honest with this person. If you. If. If it works where she doesn't want you to do it, then you're welcome to leave the agency or stay. But please be honest.

Okay.

I'm just. I'm big on that.

Got it. Honestly.

So I've had guys leave the agency, dates, start dating someone, and then they break up, and then he comes back.

It's good money. I mean, why not, right? I mean, I can imagine that these guys are like, I'm gonna look in. I'm trying to. You know, it's good. It's good money in a night. What did you say it was? It's like anywhere ranging from in their.

Pocket 800 to 1600 or so. And. And, you know, the great thing about this job is that a lot of my guys are pursuing other things in life. They're going to school, or they're pursuing another job, or they're models or they're actors. And the worst thing, I mean, I was a model for so many years. And the worst thing is, is like, you book this big job, a big campaign, you're. And then you're paid 90 days later.

Right.

It's the worst job.

It is.

It's the worst.

Right. Or you get booked for it and they cancel it and they do something else.

That's your worst.

I used to do some modeling too. No, but I've done some that. And I've also done, you know, television shows. I didn't get. It's all rejection. It's hard. So this is like, steady?

Yeah. It gives them an opportunity to follow a dream.

Right. Okay, I got it. So what kind of requests do you get from women? Do they ever call up and they're like, okay, I want a guy who's this and that, or I want him to come when I. You know, I saw a clip, something about, like, the one woman wanted a guy to dress up like a Woman.

Oh, yeah. Well, that was. We played a television.

Okay.

We played.

Oh, that wasn't real. So. But is there ever any request, like, I want. I need him to do abc?

Yeah. I mean. Yes.

Because women have fan. This is all about fantasy in many ways. Right.

Well, I thought you meant more along the lines of like, I'm going to.

A wedding and, oh, he has to wear.

And there's a script on where they met, how they met.

Oh, do they do that?

How long they've known each other? Oh, yeah, we do that.

Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of women who's like, oh, or high school reunions.

Yeah. And so.

I usually, I was like, I say to them, give me a script. And so I can send to him. And so he knows when he shows up, who he is, how long you've dated, what your nickname is, that kind of stuff. So when you're walking around with your friends, it's not. Wait, didn't she say that they met.

Right, Right.

Somewhere.

Now he just said it was like, awkward silence.

Yeah.

Right.

So, yeah, we do a lot of that role playing in that situation. We've done things. I have a really cute story. There was a girl, she was in Los Angeles, and she liked a guy at her work, and he never paid her any attention. And. And so she hired one of my guys to go to three parties. It took three parties.

Oh, my God. Okay.

So hired a guy, three different guys to come to a party, a work function at a. It was like at a restaurant or a bar or something like that. And she would. We knew we had a photo of him, and I sent the photo of him to the guy. And so he showed up, and he was there kind of mulling around. And then when she went close to this guy who she really liked, he would walk up to her and start talking to her and like, oh, my God, mom, can I buy you a drink? And, wow.

So conniving and plotting. But I love it. Okay.

It worked.

It worked.

Yeah. She ended up.

So there was. It took her three office parties of three different hot men. That this guy was like, oh, yeah. What does that say about men? I don't know. And women?

I love that story.

I love that story, too. I mean, I love that she was so right.

But she sent me an email that he asked her out and they went out. So I haven't. I didn't ask for an update or anything like that, but I love that story.

No, that's a good. I mean, I guess you got to do what you got to do to get the guy. That's an extreme measure though, but it works.

That's right.

Yeah. But it's interesting. It is true. Like they always say a guy with a wedding ring, you know, with his, you know, wearing a wedding ring is like.

It's the fire truck principle.

Is that what it is? What?

Social psych stuff.

But what does it mean? That if a woman sees a man with it, he seems he's more desirable. And so a guy's looking at a woman who's desired by a hot man, she's more desirable. He's already been validated.

Yeah, well, that study is about we want what we can't have.

Oh, interesting.

And that made her look like he couldn't have her because she's with so.

Many other hot tall models. He's like, what? Wow. And then he finally noticed her. That. That's very interesting. So what do you think that. What have you learned about women's. I know we're talking about what these guys learn about women or what would you say that, like.

You say there is no typical client, female client that's hiring. But I'm just wondering, like, do you ever have women who have like regrets after, who feel, I don't know, like, I just feel like paying for it. You would just feel like it's not. Even though you had a great time, you might be kind of sad the next day, let down. Kind of like. Like a lot of women after they have a one night stands, I'm not saying this is what they're doing, but a lot of women can't handle it. Or men, because they. The next day they just feel like, wow, it was great. But you don't hear from or they didn't call, or you feel like your ego's let down. And I could see this in some way. Some women, like, maybe it backfires on them.

Hmm. I don't know. Maybe those. I follow up with clients and just a very simple text message that said that says, did you have fun with Bradley Lords?

Right?

I mean, who couldn't have fun with Bradley Lords?

I want to have fun with him.

You should have him on the show. He's.

Oh, I would love to have him on the show. Anyone. Is he here? Or anyone who's here would be fun.

Yeah, he's in. Well, he's in Vegas. He can come over.

Okay, sure. And I go to Vegas all the time. We do interview there.

But I just say, did you have fun? And.

I.

I guess maybe if they just weren't happy, they just don't say it. I mean, I've never. It's. No one's ever said, can I have a refund?

Right, that's good. You never had a refund. Never had a bad. Okay, now, how much acting, though, goes into being a jiggler? Because if they, if they're. If they show up and they want to make her feel beautiful, what if she's just not beautiful? Like, what if she's just not. They're not attracted to her. But. So that isn't a little bit of way acting, or do these guys, like, you know.

No, it's.

I mean, you're acting on a normal date. You want people to like you. I'm not gonna say that. They're, you know, I'm. I tell them to be honest. I mean, you're not gonna walk up to a woman who's overweight and say, oh, my God, you look so skinny in that dress. You find something about them that's very attractive and you focus on that. And that's. That's what we do, is finding that. That thing to make them feel special. I have a client and she sent me an email, and this is about Bradley. It's so funny. Is like, she said, I don't ever feel attractive. I feel like this is what the email said. I will never forget it. She was like, I feel like the ugliest person in the world sometimes. And he made me feel beautiful.

And like.

I can't not love that about what we do. I mean, we're here to get paid, we're taking money, but we're. Our job is to make people happy.

Yeah.

And so that's. It's very fulfilling.

And women do want. I'm telling you. I mean, it was kind of a running joke on my show when I used to do it from San Francisco. My co host, minus I joke and I'd say. I'd say men need to compliment their partner 10 times a day. Like, 10 times a day. Just be like, you're beautiful, you're hot. And I know that's extreme. You're like, not ten times a day. Are you kidding me? And I'm like, I'm trying to drive a pointer that actually, actually I probably wouldn't mind if it was even ten times a day. But so many women.

In relationships never. Their partner never makes them feel beautiful. I know that my mom, one of the reasons why she divorced my dad, there were other ones, but she said he never made me feel beautiful. He never once told me in the, you know, however long, 13 years they were married. He never told me I was beautiful. His nickname for me was mouse. My mom's a really beautiful woman. She's like, he never complimented me. He never said, you look great. He didn't notice that I got, you know. And I think even more. Not that men don't want to feel beautiful. Men want other things. But I do think that there is something very. It's not that women are all, like, narcissists and that's all we care about, but, you know, we're feminine, and we try. We make efforts, and we want guys to notice. And so if you're. And then Menace used to say back to me, no, because then she knows that she's got you wrapped on your finger. And you don't want to give women those confidence. I'm like, you are so wrong. Like, I can't tell you, like, what an aphrodisiac it is for a woman if you can truly do just, like, you know, not just like, hey, babe, you're hot. But, like, you're really, like, wow, your eyes are just so beautiful. Like, I'm into you. And I, I, I, I noticed things about your girlfriend or your partner, like, wow, you got a haircut. I like how your hair looks today. Or, that's a great outfit. Your ass looks amazing in those music. I don't care how you say it, but I'm telling you that there is no woman on the planet that you're with that does not want to hear that you, she looks good and you appreciate something about her, you know? And I like to be told that I'm funny and smart, too. Don't get me wrong. But we all want that.

Doesn't happen often, does it?

No. Sometimes I'm like, but do you think I'm funny, though? He's like, you're hot. But, like, I'm like, but do you think I'm funny? You don't realize how funny I am, do you? Because I'm really funny. I'm not funny with you, but I'm funny. I've had those conversations with guys. No, but it's true. And if a guy doesn't make me. Because I've also had friends who are, like, dating people are like, yeah, he just talks about himself. He's never once told. I'm like, Like, I couldn't live, I couldn't go out with a guy who didn't make me feel that way for five minutes, so. And I think that there's a lot of women who.

Want that, but they don't know how to get it. Or they just sort of think, well, he's great in all these other areas, and if I don't get that from him. But I think it's. It sounds superficial, but it's. It's. I think it's just a really important part about a woman feeling safe and comfortable and cherished and loved and just like biology. Like things that women want. Right. Mm. And men.

Yeah.

In a way. What would you say is the equivalent for a man to feel like a man? It's not like I. You want to told that you're hot all the time, but you want. What is the equivalent? You think that women like. What do you think women are? Men want to feel safe.

No, that a woman.

Oh, that a woman wants to feel safe with you. Right. You know, but what do you want from a woman? You think that. That women don't typically get. Give or understand about men. Is there anything like that? That is an equivalent? I'm just curious. Like, I think men want sex. They're more simple, but maybe they want their needs, say, or they want to feel like a man too. Like they. There are guys who are like, I want to, you know, make more. I want pay for the bill, or I want to, you know. Although a lot of guys are like, you know, let's split it. And then I'm like, we'll split the bill. And then I'm splitting. I mean, not because I just think you should never split either. Have her pay you. Baby, don't split. Okay. You've also talked about these men, that there's certain grooming rituals. And I'm always in. I'm always manscaping. I could talk about it for days. So do you give them, like, rituals like you have to trim, you have to shave, you have to do anything like that?

That's funny. No.

Well, yeah. Life. What do you think? Okay, that's true.

I had a guy do a photo shoot, and he sent the photos over, and he had on his previous photos, no hair on his chest, and it was this big bush. And I was like, what's up with the chest hair going on? And he was like, I'm trying something different. And I'm like, no, no, you're gonna take new photos. It doesn't look right.

Right. Okay, got it. So there is some stuff. But what about. Okay, forget your gigolos. But what about your escorts? But what about, like, do you think that most men do trim and shave? They should, right?

I think so.

Right. And they gotta keep fresh and dry down there and all That I actually have a little product for you that. Yeah, I'll give to you. I have a product called Down Under Comfort. Everyone's heard me talk about it. It's by my new brand called Emily Tony. And it actually helps men and women, they're down under areas. It's like a deodorant for your balls. Yeah, balls. And it keeps you like fresh and dry. But it actually sold out because it's been a success. And so people I know there's been. I've gotten hundreds of emails, so I just need to address this right now that we. It will be back on the website. Emily and Tony.com. i think like next week. So in a week from now. So I'm sorry if you're going sweating, but I'm sorry, but it's summer now and people are like, it's the kind of product. They're like, I'm fine. I showered this morning. But they don't understand that, like, you're not as fresh if you just showered in the morning and your wife all day, girlfriend's going down on you. But it really works and it smells amazing. It's like a cream. Like men use Takum powder, which doesn't work. It's a cream too. Powder. Anyway, I'll see if I give it to you. But. But hygiene. So that's important. So there are there certain other things that you. Cologne. Right. You smell good, by the way. I can smell you from here. What are you wearing?

Oh, it's a secret. I don't like to tell anybody.

Really. It smells really. You feel like fresh and like clean.

Vetiver.

Vetiver. Sounds really good. I like it.

I just told everybody.

Oh, my God. No one. I didn't understand it. It's good. I like it. So. So Gigolo is in his fifth season. Amazing for you. For business, I'm sure. And her life. That's like. Why do you think people are so crazy about the show?

Because it's dirty.

So the show's dirtier. Because people are having sex on the show fight, right?

Yeah.

So the women are like having. Right. And we can't say that that's. That's. That's television, but it's.

So there's a lot of sex on the show, right? Yeah.

So that's what it is. And it's. Do you think it's a lot of women's fantasy to just have a guy? Like, I think that there could be women like, oh, this actually sounds pretty good because you don't often see that. You always hear like, you Know, men are hiring strippers, and you pay them to leave, and you pay them for whatever. It's kind of the sick, sick. You women are like, I can have a really hot night with a guy. I'm in a power. Because a lot of this could. You know.

It'S true that these men have to have a genuine respect for women. So I'm assuming they're feminists in a way. It could be a feminist move to say, I'm gonna pay for this, and then I'm gonna pay him to leave. So no strings attached, and I got what I wanted. Yeah.

Well, it's a very empowering situation for somebody, and I've gotten that. That. It's like, I'm in the power. I'm in control, and I'm making the decisions tonight. So. Yeah, you could get that out of it as well.

Right. I understand that. So the show Lots of Sex. There's a new season coming out. When does it come out?

Season five just aired. I think it's still available On Demand on Showtime.

Season six. We don't know yet.

Okay, hush, hush. I know. I know all about that stuff. It's crazy. So are there any. Okay, because we. We only have a few more minutes, but is there anything else? So they can find you at Cowboys 4. Number 4. Angels.

Angels. Cowboys. For Angels.

Cowboys. Okay. And you have pictures of all the guys, too?

Oh, yeah.

And they can pick, but you can browse. Are they all on there?

Yeah, all the guys are listed. Some of the guys, we have vip, which means it's for women that want to do some very social stuff and bring them out and about. And so their photos are not on the website. So nobody would ever know. It's a secret.

Right. Because I would think that you'd be like, oh, this is my husband. If you bring him to your high school reunion, someone's like, I just saw him on a jiggly dating site. What the hell?

Yeah, we have different guys for that. So.

Okay.

So, yeah, most of the photos of the men are on the website, and they're listed by city. And so I usually like a woman to. I'm a matchmaker.

I was just gonna. That was one of my questions. That is really like, I've been doing.

This for five years.

Yeah. So you are a matchmaker. So if a woman calls you, she's like, I don't know what I want. So you do an intake with your clients.

Yes.

So how does that work? So the woman calls, and she's like, this is what? So tell me. Give me Example. So she'd call up and she'd say, what?

She would call up and I'd say, have what city you gonna be at? How long did you want to see some for? What? What exactly are you guys doing? And then I'll say, well, did you look at the guys on the website who did you like? And just by talking with them I can kind of. I know all my guys personality, right?

You know their personality. It's important because just because they're good looking and they're gentlemen and they don't treat a woman doesn't mean that their personalities are gonna match. No. So that was my next question. You kind of are. Have to match them with the right guy.

Yeah. Some of the guys are more businesslike and some of the guys are more fun and zany and crazy. Some of the guys are adventurous. And so I just get that from the person. Like if she's really giggly on the phone, then I want to put her with someone who's like, funny guy. I mean I have guys that do stand up comedy and stuff. So.

It'S so funny when a woman will call and I'll be talking to her for a while and she'll be like, I want to see Joey. And I'm like, oh, Joey. Because I'd rather her be happy. I mean, she's obsessed with how Joey looks and I'm like, listen, I know you like Joey, but what about Billy? He's kind of similar looking as Joey and I think he's a better match for you just by talking to you on the phone. So. But sometimes they'll say, no, I have to see Joey. And then they'll meet and you know, she'll end up calling to see Billy.

Right, right.

Because I'm pretty. I've been doing this for five years.

So, you know, yeah, it's a skill. It's a total, it's complete skill being a matchmaker. Like you have to know, you know, Right. You have to really be perceptive and really understand, get it, like get it right away. So and so when I know that you like again, you said the rows are typical, typical calls. But I mean, do you find that there's a lot of women out there that are also just frustrated? They're like, listen, I'm at the end of my rope. I've had like 10 bad dates this month. No one's great and I just want to go date all the time. That's kind of a common scenario.

Match.com. i get this. I was trying match.com and the matches were horrible. I just want to go out tonight, go out on a date and have fun and not care.

And it's fulfilling for them because a lot of them are really busy. They have disposable income. They can pay a guy. I mean, it's. I mean, I could see a lot of people as being like, you know, it is just to have sex. But I could see a lot of women just like, sometimes I'm just like, I just want to, like, go to movie with someone who's nice and have a good dinner, not have a bad dinner where I'm like, yeah, check, please. Can we leave? And then you're sitting through a bad date this way, you know, and if someone. And so if someone is. I'm sure you're not, but people seem to be pretty happy on your dates and all that stuff. Okay.

Very successful.

You are very successful. Congratulations on all your success.

Crazy. When I first. My ex girlfriend, when I first started this agency, she was like.

What do you think you're doing? You know, you just. You're like, wasting your time. And then. And then the day that we aired on the Tyra Banks show, we were the number one Google search site in the nation.

Wow.

In that day. And that's crazy because of all the combinations.

Right.

We weren't. Well because of the way that. So if you added it all up, we were number one for the day. And. And then it just grew bigger and bigger and bigger and more women found it more acceptable.

Is it a shameful thing? Like, do you feel like women don't tell their friends about it?

Because I don't know if I'd want to be like, yeah, I paid for this hot guy last night to go tickle with me to a party.

I think a lot of them do tell their friends because their friends end up calling.

Oh, that's good. So, okay. I'm glad see this? Because I could read this.

Don't be afraid to tell your friend, because I'm not.

And I'm gonna test this guy out tomorrow night. Maybe. But, I mean, I get it. I get it. I like the spin on it that women are busy and they can pay for what they want. Guys do it all the time. And it's safe. You know, it's safe. You vet them. And if there's a demand for it, you know, good for you for creating that. You feel the need.

Yeah. And even better. Even better is when I get a call from somebody who's. Who says they're handicapped or they're. They don't. You Know, they have a certain. I had a woman who called who had severe burns on her body, a woman who was an equestrian rider, and she fell off her horse and damaged her retina, and she was blind and hadn't gone out on a date again. I mean, we get all these other things of these women that really need our service. A lot of women are using our service to have fun, but I get so many calls from women that really need us, have had a traumatic experience, have gone through a horrible divorce or going through a divorce. So they can't start a new relationship.

They don't even want the emotional attachment. Like, they really don't start a relationship. I get that.

Go away for a weekend with someone and have fun, to blow off some steam.

That's what I. That's all I ever really want. Yeah, but that's my own commitment issue. No, no, but really, like, there's a lot of times, like, busy. I'm like, I just want to go out. I don't want to have it be a whole weekend. Can we just go to dinner? You know, I get. I get. Okay, well, well, thank you so much, Garen, for being on the show. Everyone can find you. So Cowboys for Angels. This all be on my site, too. We're doing a little video now so everyone can check out what you look like and all that and then anything else? Twitter?

Yes, we're on Twitter.

Cowboys4Angels, right?

Yeah, Cowboys with the number 4Angels.

Okay, great.

We're on Twitter and all that. Good stuff.

Well, thank you so much for being on the show. I really appreciate it. It was great having you.

I had fun.

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