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Look into his eyes.

They're the eyes of a man obsessed by sex.

Eyes that mock our sacred institutions.

Bedroom eyes, they call them in a bygone day.

Hey Emily, you got a boyfriend?

Cause my man E here, he just.

Got his heart broken.

He thinks you're kind of cute.

A girl's gotta have her standard.

Oh, my.

Do women know about shrinkage? Isn't it common knowledge? What do you mean, like laundry? It shrinks. Can we not talk about sex so much?

Are you kidding me?

Oh, my God, I feel so good. Being bad feels pretty good.

But, you know, Emily's not the kind of girl you just play with.

You're listening to Sex with Emily. We're talking about sex, relationships, and everything in between. For more information, go to Sex with Emily dot com. Check out everything on my site if you're looking for reading or listening. All the podcasts are there. We've got blogs every week that we're updating about everything you want to know about sex and relationships. And I know it's the holiday season. It's a stressful time. So take a deep breath and check out my podcast from a few weeks ago, A Breath Away from Better Sex. It's packed with tips for how to make every moment count with your partner and really work on deepening that intimate connection. I talk about breathwork and meditation and the importance of always allowing yourself to be vulnerable. You guys really like that show, so check it if you haven't heard it yet, you can always get more Sex with Emily on social media. It's all sexwithemily, Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter. Check those out. I love hearing from you. Okay, you guys. And it's contest time. I would be wrong if I did not gift you with many splendor sexy things this time of year. So this contest is how to be a better lover going into 2018. So what I want you to do is take a moment here and think about it. Where are you right now? This moment with your love life. Looking back on the last year, how was it? Is it what you wanted? Is it what you want it to be? How could it be different? And a year from now, how would you like it to look? So write it down. You guys. Think about it. Like, think about some things that you'd like to work on for the next year and that you'd like to see in your life. And, you know, a lot of things do get better on our own. We don't need to make commitments or resolutions. But, you guys, sex is not one of those things. It takes a little bit of effort, but it's so worth it. I mean, maybe you want to move from, like, ejaculation, orgasm, roll over and go to sleep. Maybe you want more foreplay. You want more connection. You want more intimacy. You want to break out of the routine that you're in, you know, maybe you want to stay in bed longer. And there was a study that came out that said couples who stay in bed longer and being more affectionate feel more satisfied with their sex lives overall. So maybe you just need to set the alarm for a few minutes later. Um, also, you guys masturbate more. You know, huge fan of masturbation. And if you're dating and frustrated right now, why don't you just try not dating? Take dating off the table. I don't know, be celibate for a few months. You think? That's the last thing I want to tell you, but sometimes we just need to pull back, stop putting pressure on ourselves, and work to be the best version of ourself we can be before we start dating again. Be like a reset button. So think of all these things, you know, like, do you want to be a better listener with your partner? Whatever it is, I want you to write it down and I want you to email to me feedbackexwithelmi.com with the title Better Lover 2018 and share with me your pledge, what you want to work on for 2018. There's so much power in writing it down and sending it to me. And you'll be entering the contest and you have till Sunday, January 14, 2018. I'll pick four winners and you're going to win some incredibly sexy prize packs. So I can't wait to hear from you. Okay, let's get into our interviews and also let me know what you think of this mashup interview show because we've had so many insightful guests. So if you want more of these shows, I'd love to hear from you. And if you want to hear the full episodes from these interviews, look at the links in the show notes which can be found at sex with emily.com I'm really excited for my guests. I'm jumping right into it. You should just hear if this show is as hot as the mic checks that went on pre show. I'm pretty psyched. Okay. I'm sitting with two awesome, smart, amazing, sexy, empowered women. We have Amy Baldwin and April Lampert. And you guys have both been in our sex toy industry for a while now, right?

Yes, both of us. Since 2008.

Okay. And I bet you guys. So this show, like I said, we're gonna get in some good old fashioned sex dating, sex toys. And I know Amy because we. Well, I've known you both from the shows. You guys were like the hot girls at the shows like I wanted to be friends with. But then when you guys were best friends. I'm like, I love you both. We can all hang out. But Amy and I did Somatica together. We went through our intensive training, so we bonded. We've gotten closer, so I can't wait to talk about that. I know April's got a lot of relationship stuff going on. Divorced, but now, like, who knows? Having so much fun.

Having so much fun all over the world.

Okay, so, April, you work. You've worked in the toy. You industry.

I actually started at Pure Pleasure initially.

Oh, you did? Is that how you guys became bff? Yes.

So we met before that in a restaurant. We were both working in the restaurant industry maybe 10 years ago, and April got hired. I was already working there, and she was telling this story on her first day about going to a party and getting spanked, and I turned bright red because I was like, oh, my God.

Well, I proceeded to actually spank myself in the back kitchen area, and I.

Was like, oh, my gosh, she's my soulmate. She thought I actually hated her because she was like, oh, did I just scare her away?

And then Amy said she's gonna open a shop, and she's like, I want you to work with me for me. Be the assistant manager. And I said, I have never worked in retail, and I don't even own a vibrator.

And.

And she was like, I. I'm going to change that right now.

Here's a vibrator and a job.

My life.

Yeah. And here's a job.

That's amazing. Ten years ago, that.

Yeah. Around the.

Yeah.

2008, I think was.

We opened.

That is, like, the beginning of a beautiful friendship. And here you are now. You guys are, like, knee deep in the industry, killing it, wearing lots of hats.

I couldn't imagine I was going to be a lawyer, and now I'm selling dildos. My mom was so proud.

Exactly. No, I was going to be a lawyer, too. I took the L set, and here we are. It's fine. It's way more. Flares are not as happy. Much better.

I know.

Okay, so. But, Ava, you worked. So you work for Fun Factory, Director.

Of sales for Fun Factory usa. And then change to Hot Octopus, which is, like, the best. They're amazing.

So awesome. Congratulations on that, because I know I always, like, see you guys at the show. So we'll. We'll absolutely see each other. So. Okay, so we've got your background. I need to know. Okay. And you guys are how old?

I'm 31. Going on 32.

Amy's 31.

And I am 34 going on 12.

Emotionally. I get it. Okay, so what relationship status with you both?

Oh, for me, we're going to call it single with an it's complicated attachment to it.

Okay.

It's complicated.

Yeah.

But. But. But single at the moment.

Okay, Got it. So, all right.

Single ends.

Yeah. Yeah. Still sleeping with the ex, but it's not really committed.

I don't know. I'm just guessing. I actually don't know.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah. And he's. And he's not here right now. He's not present right now. So time and space to heal, right?

We all need that. Time and space heals all. Okay.

April, I am newly divorced. It's almost finalized. And this is the first time in my life I've ever been single. Like, since I was pretty much 18.

Wow. How long were you guys together?

Seven years. But I had a boyfriend before that for six years, and I was in another relationship with a girl for a little while.

Wow.

Okay. Okay, so you. So then. And then how long were you married? Just now.

Seven years.

Wow. Okay. And you're coming out of it. So now you're like, what? You're just like.

It's, like, full. Oh, my God. It's so much fun. I feel so connected to myself. I'm just like this power. I don't know. I found my power.

Tell me. Okay. What. So when you were getting divorced, you didn't feel like you had this power before? What?

Well, it's just I wanted to be like a good little wifey, like, so sweet and. And domestic and, you know, good to my husband. Sure, I'll get on top sometimes, but, you know, just missionary, me all the time.

You know, even after working in this industry for long, knowing, like, you know, you've got tools at your supply, you know, Total makes. Amazing toy. You were just like, I'll be there. It was missive.

Just. I mean. And I understand it's. It's an issue to have consistently amazing sex.

Your partner.

Oh, yeah.

It really is. And I mean, yeah. But I've definitely awakened from my slumber, and I'm feeling so great sexually.

So are you just kind of sleeping around right now? Meeting.

Well, I'm taking a good way.

The best possible break. Yes.

But I've been. Because I travel all over the world selling sex toys. I've been in Chile and Brazil, Spain and Germany, Australia and Thailand. And so I've been. Yeah. Really? Experience. Experimenting culturally.

Right. That's amazing. Right?

Okay, fantastic.

So that's. I want to hear. So your partners that you've met in different countries. Is there anything you'd like to say about lovers from different parts of the world?

I. Oh my God, so many things. So I'm just curious because people always.

Encouraging me, they're like, you should take a German lover in Germany.

I had never dealt with uncircumcised cops before.

Talk to me about that. So.

And I. I had a guy, a Scottish man with a. With a Prince Albert piercing. Omg. New interesting things.

Also, let's explain what that is. For people who might not know, it's.

It's a. The head, basically. They take. It sounds. This sounds very intense. I'm not a doctor, but it's like through the urethra there's a. The barbell goes through there and then it's like. So, yeah, really, really interesting.

And he was uncircumcised.

He was uncircumcised. I guess only one in like 20 people in Scotland is circumcised.

Right. So interesting.

And then, like, what I've learned about people all over the world. Like, it was like the year of anal licking. Like, I was like, what is happening? Like, I totally. I've never experienced it.

The name of the podcast. We're going to call this one the Year of Analytic, but I think there's going to be more. Wait, so. Because every. Every guy you were with just wanted to lick your anus?

Yes. I. I'm like, is this a new thing? I didn't get this memo. Like, I'm into it, but usually I'm like, let's do that in the shower. Just, you know, because I'm like, hey, yeah, interesting.

So even before they lick your vagina.

Yeah.

Are they licking your anus first usually?

No. Usually it's vaginal licking first.

Okay.

And then it goes into the anal licking. Also, this might be graphic. I hope you don't mind.

Oh, come on.

But this guy in Thailand went down to me when I was having my period and he knew about it and he was like, into it really good.

Okay. Scottish guy, Scottish freedom.

He was totally fine.

It's a choice, right?

He was into your pleasure.

I know.

And he wasn't all tripped up on.

It, so I just felt very. It was liberating.

That is right. Cuz nothing's wrong with the peer. It's a choice. Guys could be like, ew, gross out. Or he's like, I'm into this.

One thing I do for every guy that I've been with in different countries, I send them a care package afterward with Fun Factory products.

And I'm like, here's to please your next women. Like, you have to know because they're most. 99% of them have been terrified of products, right? So it's been awesome.

And they get departing gift.

They get a parting gift. I'm like, think of what do you spend?

You guys, Fun Factory makes it like.

I usually send them the Cobra Libre, which is a male masturbator as well, and then a bullet. So I'm like, whenever you do it, doggy bust this out and put it on the girls clit and she's going to love it.

And then they love you.

Yeah. I have a fan club. So every time I go to these countries, I have, you know, different house and different area codes.

Oh my God, I love that you said a party gift. That's not a bad one. That's a really good idea. Brilliant. Yeah. No, it is brilliant. You're never gonna get any bad, like reviews or anything if it comes to that.

Yeah.

Have you noticed anything? Because I noticed something about anal licking too. I'd like to say I had in my few sexual experiences in 2016, by choice, there was some more anal licking than usual.

Yeah.

What about you?

I had a very interesting anal licking offer when I had. I hadn't even been intimate with someone and that was something that was offered to me.

Do you think it's because of. Because in porn they're seeing it more served up on the porn menu? Maybe.

Yeah, I guess.

No one was licking my anus randomly eight years ago.

Yeah. Or yeah, something in the air. There's the energy of anal.

I think there is the energy of anal. I know a finger, but not just a lick.

Yeah, Yeah.

I had a guy who went right for the licking. Like, he was like, flipped me over and wanted to. I'm like, no, there's. That's why I asked you, April. I was like, can't we start with like some other licking first? Like maybe my nipples or like go down? But I had been warned by a friend. He was very. She said to me, oh, you're going out. This guy, he's great. He loves butt play. That's all she said to me. I was like, okay, fine. I just met him. Like, I'm bumble. Cool. And then we had one date. Sure enough, we were like making out. Obviously. He's like flipping me over. I'm like, oh, my God. And then in my brain, I'm going, oh, he's really is. And then I kind of slowed him down. Right. But anyway, I didn't know, I feel like that wouldn't have happened.

Yeah. The year of the ass, huh?

Yeah. What about your sexual, would you say? I know we're sort of a new year, but in the last year were there any sexual highlights for you?

Oh, Amy, yes. Yeah, definitely. I think I've. I think every year I step higher into my like most juiciest sensual self. I just get better with age.

Like a friend.

Wine. It's true. Don't you think so how, how do you feel that you stepped into it this year? Is there any like one pivotal, one moment that was like a highlight?

Yeah, I mean, well, just like an overall gen. Like general. More embodiment and like stepping or dropping deeper into my body and it's understanding of the pleasure that it wants and more orgasms and more ejaculation, more juiciness, more connection, more transcendent sexual experiences where I'm like leaving my. For extended periods of time.

Okay, let's do that. Was that now would you think? It started with our somatica training?

That helped? Definitely, yeah. I think that really helped bring me in my body. That was a big practice of what we were doing. And so I think it really helped to turn that up, turn up the heat there and more connection into that part of myself.

I feel so, I feel like it was a great. I feel like I. I know that you're also seeing clients now too and so I'm not going to do that. But I, I feel like I still want to be doing more somatic. Like it's not. It's a part of me because I said. But I want to like still be engaged.

Yeah.

Like doing stuff.

It's a powerful practice.

It is a powerful practice. What was your. I don't know. I've talked about this. I always try to explain what it is, what it's. How do you explain it?

Well, I like how they describe it as a relationship lab. And so when we're working with clients specifically we're really trying to develop this intimate relationship with them to heal old attachment wounding from their parents, from their upbringing, where we become that secure attachment to show them the way of secure attachment, to show them what a healthy relationship can be. So we step in kind of as that.

Right.

As that role for them. And so I'm doing that with a lot of my clients and a lot of it really is. We're doing a lot of work on wounding. It's all. They come in, they're like, I can't have orgasms. It's your parents fault. Let's talk about your childhood.

Right. It is always, I mean that, like, parents are doing anything purposefully. Like, they all know you have to get to the point where you're like, my parents did the best they could, the knowledge they had. But something from your society, something that happened in society or in school or with your parents is going to kind of hold you back sexually. So you're, like, helping them.

Yeah. Abandonment and lack of trust and safety. You know, they have a hard time going into their bodies, being in their bodies, because their body doesn't feel safe because it maybe it wasn't respected. People didn't show up for them. People abandoned them and left them and neglected them. Where there's actual physical trauma, emotional trauma. It's all just these layers and layers of pain and trauma and shame that we're undoing. We're, like, spending a lot of time unraveling.

Amazing. I'm so glad you're. You're doing this.

I love it. It's really beautiful. God, everyone needs it.

Do you guys have any amazing stories, though, from your training?

Oh, from Somatica. Emily and I have a really special one.

We had a moment.

We had a moment.

Yeah, that was okay.

So the exercise, I think it was I was supposed to touch you and bring my eroticism to you in the touch. And you were just supposed to receive. You weren't requesting. You were just kind of laying there. And. And I have a lot of experience with conscious touch, and I teach classes on conscious touch, and I'm a meditator and into mindfulness. And so I started touching you, and.

I didn't realize it wasn't erotic. I was just, like, touching you with this mindful way, paying attention, all the senses and all these things. And then. And at some point, I think, was it. Was it Danielle? She came to. Danielle sat down. She's like, that doesn't look very erotic, Emily. How is that for you? Like, yeah, it's not very erotic for me. And I was like, oh, oh, okay. And had this, like, this kind of aha. Moment of that there's different levels of conscious touch, and there's a difference between conscious touch and conscious erotic touch. And that we have this ability to turn on eroticism within ourselves and then to bring it outward. So through that, that, like, fail with.

You, that's how we learned.

Yeah, exactly. And then. And so through that, I actually learned, you know, I failed in that moment. And then my next exercise, I think it was with the beloved Dragonfly. We love Dragonfly.

Love Dragonfly. Shout out and yeah.

Shout out Dragonfly. And just learned that I essentially go within myself and just to go in there for 30 seconds, kind of connect with my inner body. Yeah, go in there. Just take a moment. I talk to clients about this too, is that we have the ability to just go within, feel our bodies, you know, feel our genitals, feel our pussy, feel our cock. Go in there, like, feel this churning warming energy, open your eyes and then go outward and bring it to the person in front of you. And I learned that can do it for anyone. Like, I can do it for any gender. Any. It's just I can turn on anything.

You can turn on your. That's what it is.

And you taught me that, Emily.

Well, yeah, well, we all helped each other in this class. But it's interesting because people hear this going, what? But when you are a somatica practitioner and you're working with clients who are, you know, have a problem with, you know, are struggling, have challenges around, like, desire, arousal, erotic thought, we have to be able to bring, like, turn it on in any moment with some bring that Iraq energy. If you're like, well, what if you're not attracted to the partner? Or what if you're not attracted to your client? Or what if you can't? But what we're saying is, like, we learned is like, you actually can't. Like, it's a choice at any moment.

Yeah, Fantasy is a big part of it, too. You know, you can look at this body and say, hey, you're not usually my type, but I'm going to use fantasy and assign a whole different body to you. And it's nothing against you. We all have our preferences. And, you know, I could look because I'm definitely more attracted to men than I am to women. So I could look at a woman, turn them their body in my eyes into this, like, hot man body. And just.

And that's totally fair game, right?

Yeah. And then you bring energy. Yeah.

It is healthy.

It doesn't mean anything against the person. Doesn't mean that, you know, if it's your partner and you're still using fantasy of someone else, it doesn't mean you don't love them. It doesn't mean that you're not attracted to them. It means that you have some awesome tools in your spank bank that help you to go deeper. And why not? Because you're giving them a lot of hot, arousing energy. So it's a good thing.

So I'm really excited for my guest today. Jason Ellis is here. Hi, Jason.

Hello.

Emily, so good to see you. I gave you a lot of sex toys last time I was in your. Do you remember this? I gave you all the sports sheet stuff. Awesome. Okay, I want to talk to you about masturbation real quick because it's masturbation month and we had a bunch of questions that came in. So here's the thing. Okay? So, everyone, what Jason's talking about, he just came in. He's been knocked out. He won a huge fight this week, last weekend.

Just.

What was the name of your fight?

It was a king of the cage fight.

Okay.

It's like.

It's huge. And it was like you got knocked out at the beginning. You came back.

I get knocked out. I got knocked out.

I don't see. I don't want to talk about it because it's like a chick talk about sports. I suck at it. But you did something awesome and came back great. Okay. So proud of you for that. But masturbation. So when. Think back before the fight, before the training. How often do you masturbate?

Well, I masturbate in the steam room all the time because guys try to jerk me off or whatever. So there's that kind of thing that happens, but I don't finish myself off. I don't really want to say the actual thing.

You got it. Right. Okay. You're right. Because, well, maybe you'll get a lot more blowjobs.

I get a lot of blowjobs.

Do you just. And you just don't even know.

I'm the hottest person in. It's like being a pretty girl. I know what it's like, kind of to be an attractive lady.

Right? Right.

Because when I go there, everybody shits a brick and I'm like, this. This is fucking crazy. How can anybody, you know, I mean, I'm a chewed up man. It's kind of weird when you walk around there because I have a very straight large penis. Well, that too. But I have a straight. And I'm uncut. And that seems to be a thing that gay guys love as well. There's like a. I have all the things that a gay guy's really into. Being straight. They love that, right? Having a big dick, it's uncut, all those things. And I look buff. I got a lot of tattoos. I look like a warrior of sorts. Gay guys love that shit.

I love it.

So there's just a constant, like, they, like. I get like a little harem of gay guys following me into different steam rooms, like, trying to jerk off in front of me and stuff. And I'm just. I am like a stuck up pretty lady. Like, I don't touch anybody. I just sit there and they're like.

Can I give you. Right. Yeah.

And then I'll like maybe let somebody jerk me off or maybe blow me if you're lucky. Like it. Like a stuck up little bitch.

And this was not you a year ago.

No, I mean it might have been. I just didn't tell anybody.

Okay. Right. But now you've come out, you got so. I mean this is like the whole. What an amazing transformation.

I'm allowed to. I know this story gets told to my fiance when I get home from it. So this is, this is.

See, this is what we're saying is that you shouldn't get married. Someone that you can't share all these stories with. And people are like, but I couldn't. But you can. You really can find someone that would be. I. I've yet to. I haven't really been looking for it. But now it's a longer story about what I want. But I get that this is what I would want. I don't want any secrets. I don't want to cheat. Cheat.

It's hard. Like, you know, I was squeezed to tell the truth. I felt like. Even when she was like, you can tell me anything, I was like, I don't. Not this one. I mean, you got to admit the story I just told you right then. I don't think a lot of women find me attractive when I say that.

About what? The men? You're saying that it's sexy when you say it. See, I get it that women might.

You know what I mean? But my. My fiance thinks that it's hot. And we laugh about. We laugh about guys that, you know, I'll be like, this guy came in and had like a giant dick and just sat in the corner. And she's like. Because she loves the time of Finland stuff, she's super into the gay guy with the big buff gay guys that wear like leather chaps and stuff. She's kind of a gay guy. That's why it works out. But if there's anybody that's really big in there, I'll tell her the story when I get home. And she just thinks that it's the funniest shit ever. And we laugh about it.

Right? That's. That's awesome. And she's with women and men.

She made out with a. I was making. After my fight, one of my friends, she's in pond. She cut her. She got her. Her tongue cut. So it's like a snake. And I made out with her. That was all we did. We made out with her. But she's got a. She's got a split tongue. So hard.

She's got it split. I don't know that. I don't know what that is.

Like a serpent. Her tongue goes like this, but she cut it, so.

Yeah, yeah, I've kind of heard of that.

Stitched and then stitched up. So it's permanent like that. And she can make both, like, sides move around.

That's fucking crazy.

I know.

I'm gonna get a blowjob from you.

Did or you're going to. I did.

It was. There was people in the room. It was inappropriate time, but it's coming.

Okay, I believe. I believe that. I believe that you could probably get a blow job, she said, which is a pretty good place to be in.

The world, but by a serpent.

Dude, I don't know anyone else who's done that.

It's submetal, right?

Yeah, dude. I mean, I don't even know. But you're happy and getting lots of blow jobs, and I'm really happy for you.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

There we go. Oh, I need my blow job spray. So do you know what this blow job spray is?

No.

Okay. You know when you're on the radio.

Like, you know, are you gonna blow me?

I feel like it wouldn't be special. I mean, I know it would be awesome, but I feel like you get so many blowjobs now. I just feel like I. Oh, man.

If I shut myself down kind of. Wait, you're spraying yourself with blowjob spray?

Because it helps with the. It helps with the. I don't want to be, like. Make that. You know, my mouth. So I want to be. My mouth to be well lubricated.

Wait, is there lube? You spray it in your mouth and it's in your mouth.

It's like. No, it makes sure it's so your. Your. Your mouth. It's Dry mouth spray. It's by Doc Johnson. It's called Good Head. So you can also give a good head or good radio. It's a twofer. You can have some.

I'd rather blowjob.

I just feel like you could. So you'd be like, oh, like, it wouldn't even be. Well, okay. I know that I. I mean, that's proud of my blood.

That's pretty up that you would say that.

You were just telling me about other people lying. There's a line of people.

I took everybody up on it. I know, I'm 45. I don't just get sucked off all day.

No, it doesn't sound like it. Just like on the weekends, every now.

And then I will have a suck off party. And that's one day.

Oh, well, maybe you can invite me to that one. I could just wait.

Special person to me and it wouldn't matter. I would definitely wouldn't have a bunch of blood jobs before you. But even if I did, you blow me would be a extravagance. It would be just know that I would have to reciprocate.

Yeah, see. Okay, we could start there.

Maybe I would prefer to start there.

My man. I love it. She comes to me.

I'm getting tingly in my pants.

I know, me too. This is so fun. Okay, Jason, we'll readdress that. We'll address that again later. I'm losing my speech, but I have a moist mouth. Hi, Emily. Love your show. I enjoy listening and get a lot of helpful tips to make my sex life way better. I got a question. My girlfriend and I really want to have a threesome. And we're talking about it and we're getting really excited. We've never had a threesome before. And I'm going for she comes first, which is the whole thing I talk about on the show. She has to come first, which makes sex life great. How can I get into threesomes without giving one the feeling of being neglected? I want this to be a nice, relaxing time with lots of fun and no jealousy. What can we do? Thanks. Regards, George from Germany. We kind of touched on this earlier, but you, you are the threesome. I think we had a threesome once. You don't even remember. That's how many.

I didn't say that about it.

Okay, I'm kidding. But you've had a lot. And so this is like the kind of questions we could ask. We've been talking about it. We're both kind of excited. I think there's another question here. Like another girl. His wife's not so excited. But anyway, let's say they are both. Let's. Let's say for the sake of this question, they're both really excited. They're on board. They've covered all the ground. They've set the rules. They've set the, you know, you can't kiss her or whatever.

Can I kiss.

I don't know. People make these rules. You can't have sex. I know. Because when you're in the moment, you.

Want to do it all threesome. Everyone has mouths and Vaginas and buttholes, lots of orphans. Everyone's gonna touch everything.

I gotcha. How do you do it? That's fun. And what have you learned?

Well, the first rule of threesome club is that if you're the other.

The.

The person that is the guest in this threesome, and I'm assuming there's a man and a girl here and then another girl, the other girl is last. She's the girl that doesn't get as much attention as your girl. Your girl gets the most attention. So you need to remember that at all times. And the second one would be, you need to make sure that there isn't a situation where one of them is sitting there out of the game. You need to make sure that they're both in play at all times.

How do you do that?

I mean, you've got a penis and a mouth, you know, I mean, so I always have to be connected to one of them.

Right? Or.

Or they're connected with each other and you're organizing that. And you can like tickle their. The bits that they have free.

Right.

But you're definitely.

It's not about your penis.

No, I mean, you're the one. I mean, you're the one. You're the only one there that has one. So of course it's going to be about you in the end, by default. Yeah.

But in your brain, you got to prioritize.

You get too giddy. Guys get giddy and they start slamming into one of them and they. And they can't use their hands or their mouth well because their penis is busy. And that's, That's. That's a game that you need to learn quick. And you need to. And you also need to not come. You need to make sure that they come at least once each before you even think about it. I feel like really, that you need an athletical penis. You need to be like, have you girls had enough orgasms? And then the end of the threesome is when you come. Unless you're, you know, a guy that can come and then. And keep it up. I don't know that guy. Because usually there's a break there.

Right? So there's a tractor period for men a little longer. Those are great rules. And also I tell. You know, some. They establish rules. We had a time meeting or even. Are we both. Are we truly comfortable with this? And some couples say, look, I don't want her to sleep over. Or I don't want you to have penetration.

No, you don't want her to sleep in the Bed.

Yeah, yeah, you don't want to sleep in the bed. Figure all that stuff out and then. That's a great answer. So let me give a quick shout out to our sponsors. Hey, you guys, it's not too late to buy some sexy holiday gifts, so check them out and thanks for supporting them and listening to the show. We'll be right back.

I hope you guys are enjoying the show so far. The next half features porn star Joanna Angel. And part of my discussion with three single, everyday kind of guys sharing frank experiences with sex, dating and relationships. I'm excited for my special guest today. She's so special. She hasn't been here in months. She's adorable and hot. Just check out my Instagram after this to see pictures because when this airs, our snaps will be gone because we are doing some sexy snaps now we're getting naked and stuff. So I'm sorry you missed that, but I'm with Joanna Angel. Hi, Joanna.

Hi. How are you?

It's good to be back.

It's good to see you. Joanna angel is amazing. She's an award winning performer, writer, director in the adult industry.

I think a lot of people forget to masturbate. Women forget to masturbate.

Exactly. Right?

Most particularly, yeah.

Do you? Okay, but you have a lot of sex, your day job and then you have a boyfriend you live with, right?

Not as much. Well, husband now.

Husband. You got married when? I did.

I got married. I got married on Halloween.

Oh, my God. Congratulations.

At the ripe young age of 35.

Yeah, well, right. You guys, congratulations. Thank you. You guys have been together a while.

On Halloween in Vegas.

I plan in in about a week, I'm sure.

We got married by the Grim reaper. You did in like zombie makeup and stuff?

Yeah.

Oh, my God. How else would you do it though?

Yeah.

Congratulations. Okay, so you have a husband. Do you still master? Do you find time to masturbate?

Yeah. And I actually, you know, I want everyone to know I probably don't have as much sex as people think I do, you know, because I actually do get very busy and I, you know, I do. I only shoot. A lot of people think, okay, you're a porn star. That means you're in a porn 247 unless you take like a small break to go to the bathroom and eat. That means you're literally in a porn, you know, like, I own a company, I direct, I produce, I direct a lot more than I shoot these days. But so I'm probably only actually on film, you know, two or three days.

Out of the month.

And Sometimes some months go by where I'm not on film at all.

I just.

I just film other people. And sometimes I get really busy, but. And I forget to masturbate a lot. Sometimes I'll be, like, really cranky. I'll be in a really bad mood, you know, and then I'm just like, what's wrong with me? Why am I being such a. And then, like, I'll masturbate. I'm like, like, that's why I needed to masturbate.

And.

And there's something very special about being able to get yourself off and not. I think a lot of women, they forget that they can get themselves off. They think that they have to find somebody else to please them, whether it's a man or a woman, you know, however you identify yourself and whatever gender you're attracted to, you know, like, I feel like a lot of women, they. They get in the habit of being very codependent, and they're like, I'm horny. I need to find someone to give me attention and get me off. And it's like, you can do it yourself, and it's important. And whether you're married, whether you're in a relationship, whether you're having a good day or a bad day, like, you know, I think it's very important for women to masturbate. I wish I started earlier. I think it would have fixed a lot of my. My crazy childhood, you know, like. Or maybe I wouldn't say childhood, like. Like, you know, like a later, later early adulthood. I think I would have been a much more confident person. And a lot of my issues when I was younger based out of, you know, just feeling weird in my own skin, you know, And I think it could really help.

So.

I know it's a strange thing. I don't have kids or anything, but how do parents say, like, masturbate?

Like, exactly what they say to your kids. This is the problem. I didn't either masturbate until I was, like, 20.

I don't even think of it as, like, a sexual, dirty thing. It's just. It's just about confidence, understanding your body, knowing your body. Exactly.

I really.

I don't. I did not know my body at all until I was, like, probably 23 years old. You know, it was like, basically a blob connected to my head.

That's how most women. A lot of women are walking around the planet feeling like. Like, well, I'm dressing sexy or I want attention from men. I feel sexy. But there's a total disconnect from their body and, and, and, and then when.

They have sex with someone, they don't know what to say or what to do because they don't even know what's getting themselves off. They're just kind of flopping around waiting for the other person.

Exactly. Like that control.

Or they're trying to mimic what they see in pornos or like this and that, you know, and they're just not, they just don't. Masturbation really does build confidence. I strongly believe that.

Yeah, I know. And it's a release and it's, I feel like the same thing. Like even though it's like literally my job to masturbate, whereas I have people sending me toys and products that I want to try to see if I like them and if I like them, I want to tell my listeners that I like them. And they're like lined up sometimes I'm like, I got six toys to try.

More toys.

Yeah, you do. Do you want a toy for? I'll give you toys.

Can you give me some toys?

Of course, dude. I. Yes. You would never. Don't leave here empty handed. I know we both like the Magic Wand. We've talked about that.

Everybody likes the Magic Wand.

Yeah, Magic Wand's a given. But I've got some new goodies for you. I'm so excited.

I'm gonna use them and I'll just plug it now even though I'll plug everything later. I do. I, you know all porno's other movies I directed on burningangel.com but I started an only fans page which I'm kind of relentlessly promoting, which I know is annoying everyone but OnlyFans.com JoannaAngel I do.

It's actually, I say it again, you're talking faster than I am. Which is kind of awesome because I get what you're saying.

Yeah, you get it. OnlyFans.com Joanna Angel but it's on topic because I have been masturbating on their almost every day and it's been great because now I like, don't forget to masturbate and my husband is actually happy. He's like, this is really great. You're so much more relaxed now. You know, I've been like just every day, I've just been like turning it on and masturbating on there and how are you master?

Tell me about your masturbation routine. Maybe we can inspire some people. For anyone. It's nothing.

It's nothing crazy.

Doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be like right for me. I'M like, is it charged? I'm ready to go.

Yeah. You know, I usually I just use my fingers. You know, I. I rub my clit like really hard, really hard.

Do you warm it? Do you use lube?

No, I just stick my fingers in my mouth. Maybe I should use lube.

You should.

I should use lube.

Okay. You're leaving here with some lube.

Okay.

Yeah, because saliva, sometimes you don't know where it's. It's true. Some.

You're right.

You're right.

Right? Yeah, no lube. And also your. Your clitoris doesn't self lubricate. So I know we need the lube for our mouth.

Yeah, no, I have used lube and it always feels really good. And I'm like, I should do this.

I love that. I'm giving you tips. No, this is amazing. So we're gonna give you some lube. I'm gonna give you. I'm trying to think what I could give you. Like, have you tried the womanizer yet?

No.

Okay.

So, you know, I try to tell people I'm really. I'm not like a sex expert. I'm a porn expert. I'm pretty good at doing porn. I'm not the best, but I'm pretty damn good. Pretty damn good doing porn.

She built an empire.

I'm not like, I don't know, you know, like, I've two girls walk into a bar. I know it's porn stars. It sounds like it should be the same thing. It's actually not.

No, I get it. No, dude. But you in many ways, you know a lot about expert. Yeah, yeah, I'm joking about the loop thing. I mean, of course.

No, I'm always taking care people.

Yeah. So we'll give you some loop. The point is. Yeah, so for me, it's like I did but talk going back to the stress relief. I call it procrastination. Because typically I'm procrastinating about something around the house. I'm like, I'm just gonna masturbate first.

Yeah, yeah.

I should work out. I'm gonna masturbate. I should write this quote, masturbate.

And I do great.

Feel so great. And then time goes by sometimes and I. That's happening recently had thick a stressful few months. Not the whole few months, but certain pockets of time where I've been like dealing with stuff and I just feel like masturbation just fix off the table. And then I did and I was like, oh my God. I think it's been a month since I've masturbated For me, that's. You know, that's a long time. I was like, whoa. It was like this huge release, and I felt like. Like the birds were chirping, like it was a cartoon. Like, there'd be all these animals following me and singing, kind of like, you know, Snow White or whatever one that was. I felt, like, so happy. And so, yeah, we got to release it, and we got to do it. I felt like there was like, oh, the birds were singing.

Sometimes, even when my husband's, like, asleep, I, like, just masturbating. He hears me sometimes, and he. He likes it. He thinks it's hot.

He's like, does he wake up and he's like, sometimes.

Most of the time he doesn't. You know, he's. He's a very deep sleeper, right? But he'll tell me the next day, like, oh, you were masturbating. I'm like, I just. It had to be done.

Yeah. And let's talk about. I get a lot of questions from people all the time who are, like, very confused by their partner's masturbation. We've already said how healthy it is here, but just to reinforce the fact that totally normal. Your husband wasn't like, why are you masturbating without me? Because we all need that release on our own for many reasons. It's good for your health. It's good for your mind. It's good for understanding your body.

I guess I'm not as. I think. I don't know. I masturbate a lot. But if I do see my husband masturbating, I'm like, what the fuck you do? What's wrong with me, huh?

Do you do that?

I do.

I do. Dude, this is what we're telling women not to do.

Oh, okay. Well, I do it.

You get mad at them. I do. Because what, you're like, okay, okay, because you're everybody.

But, you know, I have to say, my husband's favorite. My husband actually doesn't masturbate that much because he does porn. So between doing porn and satisfying me.

But do you really feel like that sperm could have been mine or what do you feel?

I do.

Are you trying to get pregnant?

No.

Okay. Just like, in general, you feel like.

I just want it because I'm a bitch.

So you're like, how dare you masturbate without me? Because I would have had sex with you right now. But you understand then for men, that they need that relief on their own.

And my husband, he does porn, so it's totally different, you know? His, his sperm. Schedule it. People don't understand how difficult it is to date, you know, like a farmer, you know, like it, it's a whole thing, you know, because if he's.

But you were the performer first.

I got him in the industry, you pushed him in.

And now it's annoying.

Yeah, and now it's, it's, it's. The sex isn't annoying and I love our life, you know, like, it's, it's fun, but sometimes like, I mean, the sex he has on camera is not what it, you know, but it's just, it's the scheduling that I kind of forgot about because this is my second time, you know, I dated another male performer for a really long time. I kind of forgot about this part, you know, but it's like, it's pretty common, you know, when a man, I don't know how many, most people don't know this. When a man has to, has to come on camera, you know, like he can't have wild sex the night before.

You just can't.

Some of them can.

It's rare, right?

Yeah, exactly. Maybe if they're 20 or they're just, I don't know. I find that Europeans are like born with a different sexual chemical, capable of doing anything. I don't know, it's just different. But even, but for the most part, you know, like, he can't, he can't have a wild night of sex the night before.

And like baseball players.

Exactly. You usually don't know your schedule till the day before. It's pretty common for a director to be like, oh, your call time tomorrow is this. It's, it's, it's rare for a porn director to actually give you your info a week before. So it's kind of like as soon as we know his info the next day, we have to like schedule our.

Sex.

Which is funny sometimes, you know. So if he's got to be on set at 8 o' clock in the morning, like, we're not going to be able to bone the night before.

But.

And we'll know that like if he has to be on it on set at 8 o' clock in the morning the next day after that, we'll know that like we have to have sex as soon as he gets home from work that day. Or it's probably not.

Right?

Yeah, he kind of needs like a good 12 hours to like refill the tank, you know, or like we'll have sex. I mean, we've gotten kind of creative. Like a lot of it's just like, he can't come, you know, all the time. He'll go down on me for a while.

Oh, perfect. And we'll like, I know you can't come, but.

Yeah, but I can, right? So, like, we'll have sex for, like, you know, for, like, until he's, like, almost there. And then we'll kind of stop, you know, Then he'll go down on me, and then we kind of switch around. People don't realize how much we sacrifice just so he can give the world.

A beautiful as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

So, I mean, we perform together and you perform.

Oh, my God, that's hot.

It's a thing.

It's really. It's like being an athlete, you know, it's different for women.

We just, we can keep coming, coming, coming. I'm never like, oh, yeah. Like, I clean like, 16 times, do whatever. Okay.

Three incredibly open and honest guys who aren't afraid to let me into their sex and dating lives. How'd you guys learn about sex? How about master and also, like, masturbation.

Awesome. First girlfriend I had a very awesome, very confident, very in tune with herself girlfriend who literally just what she.

Okay, tell me one thing.

She taught you how to go down on her. You know, like, she was like, she was like, don't attack my right off the bat, right? I'm like, I won't.

You know, around the clit. Around the clit.

Oh, you know, take, you know, and like, this idea that, that there's.

Did you know this Gavin chat. This is good advice when you're, like.

17, you're like, you're like, you know about it. I'm put my dick in you. You know, it's like. And she's like, no, there's all this other stuff.

I'm glad, you know, because guys do that at, like, you're 27, 37.

Figure that out.

Some men never do.

Well, that's.

So you're, you're asking just in general, not, not the big question, like, how did we find out what sex was? You're asking about, how do we learn?

I don't know. Yeah, how'd you learn about sex?

Yeah.

The other way. Yeah, I, I, I, I lost my virginity really young. Like, 14. 14. And my, the girl that I was dating at the time was between 17 and 18, so she, like, turned 18 while we were dating, so plenty, plenty of, of lessons went in with that. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, so she taught you stuff. But do you remember one thing that you're like, every time you're having sex now, now that you Think of her, but you're like, oh, thank God I know how to, like, unhook a bra with whatever. Or.

That was one of them. Oh, it was all of it. I mean, you know, I was a freshman in high school. I was living the dream at that point. This is all my friends were, like a senior man. Good job, you know.

Okay.

When I first heard your question, I was thinking, like, oh, God, like, when did I learn sex ed like this?

That's what I thought.

This is gonna be sad.

This is gonna be embarrassing. Well, no, it's funny because my mom was the school nurse at the school that I went to, and so I learned sex sex ed from her when I was in fifth grade.

Yeah. You can't just be like my mom, you know?

Right.

You have to give some context there.

Masturbation. How often do you guys masturbate?

Very frequently.

All the time.

Yeah.

Like just now when you got here and went to bathroom?

I did this morning.

Twice this morning.

Twice this morning. Okay.

Last night. Yeah.

Do you watch porn?

Yes.

Yeah?

What kind? How do you decide, like in the moment, what kind of porn?

I have a naked lady fetish, so I'm really.

Which must work for you.

It's one of those weird ones.

It's real confused.

That started in Japan.

Yeah.

So it was really strange.

That's an old Canadian thing.

Do you ever think I'd rather just watch porn than have sex?

No, not necessarily. But I definitely see the appeal of not having to work to find someone to have sex with.

Right.

Unless you got his four person list going on. But yeah, I definitely, like.

Gavin struggles in his own way.

No, no, he's doing great. He's doing great. But yeah, I definitely see the bit, like, man, you know, I just worked 14 hours. Do I want to go out to a bar, you know, and try to hook up with someone, or do I just want to go home and watch. Watch porn?

Do you think it's impacted the way that you have sex?

Yes.

How so?

Several different reasons that by itself, like, if this were the 70s, would I be going home to look at a magazine or would I actively try to go meet someone more often? And I definitely think I would be doing that.

Wait, because there's. Wait, what do you say? But in the 70s, you're saying you'd go home and you have to. The magazine wouldn't be as satisfying. So now that you've porn, you could just go home. Is it more satisfying?

I would imagine so. I imagine porn makes things easier. So it makes. It probably makes me Less motivated.

Interesting. So you could think, I'm just gonna go home and I can just jack off like 10 times. I don't even need to write interesting. So. So it's kind of a deterrent.

Right. And then the other part of it would be the sensitivity part of it. Like you a guy masturbating is going to be different sensitivity than having sex with someone.

It's a different kind of orgasm.

Oh, yeah.

It's changed, perhaps for you over time. Do you think the more.

Oh, I'm sure it has. Like, I've had conversations with women that I've dated before that I go too long about things, but when I master, I can get myself off in 10 minutes.

Oh, so you're saying that you go during sex. They're like, why are you taking so long?

Yeah, yeah. It's because the sensitivity is to different. Like the section of my penis that I'm used to pleasuring myself on is different than what sex would feel like.

Right.

So it's not that it's better.

I get it.

I much rather have sex than masturbate, but.

Yeah. What do you guys. Anything else? Porn.

It's a different urge for me. You know, it's like sometimes I'm like, yeah, I just want to like be naked by myself and beat off a whole bunch. And then sometimes I'm like, no, I really want to touch another body. So it's. They're kind of different for me. It's not as simple as, like, I'm horny. Which am I going to do? It's more like, I would like to have sex or I don't.

Okay.

I guess I think porn and masturbation for me is just a good way to wind down and relax. You know, just with my job, I'm in an office from, you know, set hours. So, you know, just to be able to come home, wind down, chill out. It's just a convenient way for me to get that release.

I got it. Okay. But it doesn't like, impact what you're thinking about or fantasizing during sex? Doesn't sound like it. No. Okay, you guys, I've got questions for you guys. I got. Well, I'm gonna ask you all five questions. We're gonna go around, answer with rapid fire questions. Okay. Chad.

Yes. Biggest turn on where a woman would like me to ejaculate.

When she tells you where.

Yes.

Or where would you like her to.

When she tells you me where.

Got it.

Okay, Hartwick, that's a good answer. Are we talking biggest turn? I like when A women get. When a woman gets off. That's. I mean, Gavin.

Right? No.

When a. When a chick tells me to come on our tits.

Ejaculation stuff. Okay. I love it. Okay. Power. Biggest turnoff.

Someone is all stuck up about thing. Like, we're supposed to do it like this.

Got it.

I'm, like, rigid of my time.

That's a good question. Biggest turnoff for me, I think, is just being too needy.

If you're.

You're asking me to do too much or if it's. You know, that makes sense for you.

You're an island. Got it. Okay. Chadwick.

I just.

It's one of my nicknames.

It's cute, though. You guys. Chatwick. You guys.

That's our Bennifer.

I think he and I are gonna.

You guys could have a voice. But, I mean, these names, it's amazing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My. My biggest turn off is the shitty personality. That. That'll.

Yeah.

That's just completely get me out of a situation. Like, I mean, an exam. Like someone who doesn't, you know, oh, well, I don't tip servers or something like that.

That's when you'd rather watch porn.

Someone's just mean to people. Someone that's just. Just celebrates their ignorance or something like that. I just can't get on board with that.

Okay, Gavin. Sexiest part of a woman's body.

2017. The year of the ass.

Yeah, just this year. Okay.

Chad, I'm a big fan of really nice hair.

All right.

Yeah.

I so love butts, but I have a thing for, like, upper backs, like, well muscled up. I think that's super hot. Yeah.

Like it. Okay, Hartwick, what's the one thing you wish you could tell your future partners about your needs, like, the second she shows up.

Oh, here. If you've never seen an uncircumcised penis before, get rich.

Ready? Perfect.

It's not that complicated.

It's not. Right. That's a whole other show. But. Right. Get over it.

I'll show you in, like, 30 seconds. Yeah, one extra part.

Got it. Yeah. And like, that's it. Like. Right. Wow. Get over it. Okay. What's the one thing. Yeah, your body. What do you want them to know when they get there?

I'm gonna need to be groomed periodically because I am pretty hairy.

So you want. You want her to groom? Groom for, like, trim you, or you're.

Just saying, like, she doesn't need to groom me, but I am gonna need to be groomed.

Okay.

Oral sex can get me in the mood for Just about anything, anytime, anywhere.

Blow jobs.

Like, if a girl just says, hey, you know, this is what I'm. You know, I'm gonna go down on you right now that we.

I feel like a lot of women come equipped knowing that with no teeth or. You're so good.

You would think, but yeah. Yeah.

Cool. Okay. Craziest place. You guys can just jump in. Last one. Craziest place. You've had sex.

That's the fire tower for me.

Yeah, you already talked about it.

That was cool. Little guy shooting guns in the distance.

Awesome guns. The whole thing scare me, but maybe in a good way.

Yeah, not at me.

So in a party bus in college, around a lot of people. Around a lot of people. On a sorority date night.

Right? Of course. Sorority party. Love it.

In a bus is on a second date with a girl. There was a lake, like a public lake area that a lot of people went to and would hike around, and it was right on the dock of that lake.

Right? Outdoor sex.

Yeah, outdoor. Right in the middle of there had. I mean, we were both drunk, but people had to have seen. Like, that's kind of hot, right?

Like, people watching.

I'm totally into that.

You guys should go to sex parties. Have you been.

I know.

That's a whole thing.

Yeah, I've been on the list for, like, five years. I'm waiting for the email, then you're.

Like, it's planning and it takes the.

Like, it's not that hard.

It takes the.

You're in la. Okay. You guys are awesome. Do you have any questions for me at all? Anything come up?

What's the elusive male G spot and how do you find it?

The prostate. Oh. I was going to ask you guys if you were interested in anal PI. That was one of my questions. How do you find it? Very carefully. It's great to start, like, when you're on your own, if you don't have a partner. When you're masturbating, it's similar to how you find the G spot. Have you found the juice ball yet?

It's awesome.

But, yeah, you. You go slow. Use a finger and oratory, like that butt plug, but not the one here on the table. Use lots of lube. Breathing is really important because oftentimes, like, if you're having anal sex. Have you guys had anal sex before with women? Yes.

I've done it to myself.

You've done it.

It made me come so hard, I started dying laughing when it was happening. Also because of the image of, like, me with a finger up my ass. Like, kneeling on my floor, just, like.

Jizzing your fellow man.

Yeah, I was, like, dying. I was like, what the is going on right now? It was, it was truly hilarious.

Right? And, and how did you. Did you warm up? Did you sleep?

Yeah, yeah, of course.

You got to go slow because I think it's. Yeah, you can't. Like, it's a tricky area, but not, like, not to scare you, but just make sure that you're warmed up, turned on, used lube is awesome. I'm going to give you guys, we're going to get some lube when you go home. Some Joe lube. It's awesome. I could give you some toys that would help, but really, you just want to, like, you could just take your finger and go around the outside and see how it feels. There's a lot of nerve endings there. And then, like, slowly put a finger inside. And it's kind of like that come hither motion, the same way that you're, like, looking for a G spot, like, with your finger, like, towards the belly. It's the same place on the man. And we've got tons of stuff on our website if you want to find out about it. Can I have one more question? Because I'm assuming you guys are all straight, because that's what I. We talk about before the show. But have you had experiences with men or ever had any friends like that? Yeah. You have? Okay.

When I was younger and it was totally cool, Right?

What'd you do? Did you.

It was relatively tame by, like, my standards. Now I just, like, made.

It was all, like, above.

It was outside on a balcony with this guy who's, like, straight up, the most beautiful man I've ever seen in my life. D', Angelo, if you're out there, call me.

And that's his name. He's a really good singer.

Of course.

He'S in the music.

No, no, not that guy.

Oh, I thought that was the joke.

No, that would be amazing.

So different. D', Angelo, did you, like, have blow jobs?

No, no, it was, like, all pretty much over. But, like, I was, I was 18 or something, so I was like, whoa, this is new. But, like, now, if that was to happen, it probably would have gone much farther, because it, it would have gone farther.

It wouldn't have.

Yeah.

So would you be interested in being.

Yeah, I'd be fine with it. I, I, My whole thing is, again, it's like, if the body work together.

Right. It's about energy. It's about. Yeah, right.

That said, you're attracted to. I Am straight because I wouldn't want to be in a romantic relationship with a man. But that's physically. I can be attractive as far as I can tell.

Right. All right.

You know, who knows?

Open mind.

Yeah.

Yeah. No, I've had, you know, threesomes where a guy was involved as well. I'm 100% straight. Some of my closest friends are gay. They call me terminally straight is what they would call me, because they're very convinced that a lot of straight guys. I know experiences, but they're like, chad just doesn't. I've never had an experience with a guy other than, like, a friendly kiss.

Right.

Almost as a joke, you know, that's mean.

Well, sure, sure.

Yeah. And it's fine.

The.

The threesome did lead into. The guy really thought that that's what was happening.

Right.

So while the girl was going down on me, he. I turned and he was. And I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I just wanted to give you a kiss while you're getting a blowjob. And I was like, no. Like, you know, I felt bad, but I was like, I'm sorry.

I'm really like a Southern gentleman. Right. I'm really sorry.

I opened the door for him later.

On, and that's awesome. But, yeah, Gavin, you were asking about prostate play, and I think a lot of men. I love that you asked that, because there are a lot of men listen to my show that I think or they believe in, not the men who listen to my show because they know. But there are men out there who think like, oh, it would make me gay. Or, you know, why would I ever venture in that area? However, like, Heartware can tell you. Just the best work I've ever done.

Touching your own butthole. It's like, what makes it gay about touching your own butthole? It's like, get over it.

Exactly. Okay, on that note, thank you, everyone. You guys were awesome. Thank you so much for being here. This was a blast.

This was fun.

Really enjoyed having you part of this amazing roundtable. And thank you to everyone for listening to the show. Thanks for emailing all your questions and for being in touch. Thank you, my amazing team. Ken, Jamie, our intern, Shannon, producer, Lark. And. And Michael. And thanks, everyone, for listening. Was it good for you? Email me feedbackexwithemily.com.

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