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Look into his eyes.

They're the eyes of a man obsessed by sex.

Eyes that mock our sacred institutions.

Bedroom eyes, they call them in a bygone day. Hey, Emily, you got a boyfriend? Cause my man E here, he just got his heart broken. He thinks you're kind of cute.

A girl's gotta have her standards. Oh my.

Do women know about shrinkage? Isn't it common knowledge?

What do you mean, like laundry? It shrinks. Can we not talk about sex so much?

Are you kidding me?

Oh my God, that feels so good. Being bad feels pretty good.

But you know, Emily's not the kind of girl you just play with.

You're listening to Sex with Emily. We're talking about sex, relationships and everything in between. For more information, go to sexwithemily.com we can check out all the great stuff happening. We update every day. New blogs, new posts, new videos. It's a great place to hang out and Sign up for our mailing list because we give really good email. That's what I hear. Hi, Anderson.

Hey, Ems.

How you doing?

I'm good. I'm excited.

We got a full house here tonight.

Yeah.

Not just Stanley.

No.

On my lap. Little puppy Stanley.

Who is a boy or a girl?

Boy. I'm watching. I'm dog sitting for two weeks. And thank you very much for Emily's.

Watching my dog for two. My precious. He's the closest thing I have to a child.

Aw.

I love him. He's in my lap.

Just last week, I was making fun of you for even suggesting that you watch him because I thought it was crazy.

I know. Okay, well, we have some people, very.

Special guests, who are going to be able to weigh in on that.

I think I'm very excited about my mom. I know. Me too. It's my mom, Susan, and my stepdad, Ed. Hello.

Hello.

Hi there. I'm so glad you're here. What do you. Okay. You know that I. I had a dog.

Yes.

And I was a good dog owner.

You were. You were very devoted to your dog.

Thank you. Until it got to be.

That's like saying I was a mother once. I was a very good mom.

It's a long story. I don't want to get into it, but just know that I'm, like, obsessed with now. He will be with me all the time.

Enough with the dog.

Okay.

Should I be feeling uncomfortable that you're about to start talking about sexual.

We're not gonna get. No, no. I've made we. Well, I gotta tell you something. She's my mom. Why do you think I am the way I am?

That Read about those amazing sheets that you just did. You were talking about how you love the toys in the bedroom, and I cringed because your mom is right there.

We haven't really talked about sex toys much, mom, have we? I've got. I always want to give you some if you want any.

You gave me some once. And there's sitting in the drawer under a bunch. Well, they're hidden.

It's okay.

No.

Okay. Well, mom, let me tell you, this is something that came up today that I actually wanted to ask you this question.

Okay.

So I've never asked you this. And it's always in my mind. She's rolling her eyes. So when I was like, remember dad? He used to have this thing where he. My parents were divorced, so this isn't, like, uncomfortable with my stepdad here, so don't worry about it.

Ed looks very angry right now.

No, but, Mom, dad when he was a lawyer, he used to have this thing where he'd send out gifts to all of his clients. It was, like, from Macy's. And it was like, here, you can spend. You know, here's a catalog. Pick out whatever you want, right? And. And. And, you know, there's like, knife sets and, you know, sheets or whatever. Not like bowl and branch sheets, but. And I picked. I picked a body massager. Like a body wand. Okay. I didn't know it was like, 13. I didn't. It was like the magic wand. I didn't know it was a vibrator. I just thought it said a body massager. And I ordered it. Like, I did not. I never use it for that. But I realized, like, a few months later it was missing from my room and I never saw it again.

Whoa.

I did not take it. I did not take it. But I would admit it. I would admit it.

It's okay if you did because it's a really nice, like, toy. But I remember, like. Oh, whatever. But I really thought it was a massager because, you know, I'm talking about the magic wand. It's a big. It's a. If you've heard of it, it's amazing. What the.

Emily, I had no idea where you're going.

Who took it? I was brother. Oh, you think Michael took it? Should we call him? Anyway, you just reminded me of that when you said sex toys. Okay. Are you calling my brother? Let's call Michael.

No, you can't. It's three hours.

Oh, it's midnight there. Okay. So anyway, one more thing. I gotta say. Thanks for that, Mom. Another thing is on October 21st, we are now taking calls in the studio from 1:30 to 2:30 Pacific Standard Time and to our podcast for half hour. Anderson won't be there. I'm sorry, but you we tried on a recent podcast. Went really well. So on that date, October 21st, we are going to post the call in number the day of. So either follow me on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Sex with Emilyx with Emily, or go to my website so you can call in because it's super fun.

Sweet.

Another thing.

Love hearing about how much fun you have without me. It's great.

It's just different. It's different. It sounds much fun. Other thing. Hey, Mom, Ed. Do you guys know what a Sibian is? No. Okay.

Do you?

That's a good talk.

What about a Fleshlight? Do you know what a Fleshlight is?

You know what this is like? I've been learning new things tonight.

Remember, we're from Michigan.

I'm sure there's a lot of Fleshlights in Michigan.

Okay, so Sibian is. I'm gonna get into it later a little bit more about what a symbion is. But it's a big toy and I'm gonna get into it later. But it's like a. You ride, it's a. A big toy that you sit on like a saddle and you mimic like the cowgirl position. It's very powerful product and I'm gonna get into it more. But the point is, you've one week left to enter the first phase of our Sibian giveaway contest. And I recently brought home my first Siby. You're calling me my house tomorrow. I'll show you. And I'm loving it, but it needs a name. So email me a name suggestion. Feedbackexwithemily. Com. That's tier one. First week in November, we'll pick out our 10 favorite suggestions. Those people will move on to our next tier and it's a whole thing. It's going to be an amazing few months. So go to Sex with Emily dot com. Get the details on our website. We have a blog, it's called the Gift that Keeps on Giving. And that'll be about our giveaway. Okay, enough of that bs. Let's get into some good stuff here. How about that? Anderson? Do you have any questions for. I might just skip the sex. I got one good story, but like.

Yeah, I don't. I love sex in the news, but with. With your.

I don't know.

I don't know if it'd be a well placed time. You know what I mean?

What to ask them questions or.

I would rather talk to your stepdad and your mother, I think, than sex the news.

I hear you. I hear you. Okay, so.

Well, what is the sex in the news now? I'm curious.

Well, okay. Well, there is something interesting that you guys. This is not to say. So Playboy. Did you hear about Playboy news? Playboy is stop. They're not publishing nude photos anymore. Did you read about this?

I did.

What do you think about that?

Well, I think it's really interesting. It's a sign of the times because they said. I read an article about it. They said that there's so much nudity that they weren't special anymore.

Exactly. I mean, would you. Did you hear about me? Would you ever think that they would stop. They will no longer publish images of fully nude women in its magazine beginning this spring.

I think it's absurd.

Why?

I don't care. I don't read Playboy. But that'd be like the Greeks saying, hey, we're not gonna practice sports anymore because everyone else is doing it. You know what I mean? Like they invented the Olympics. It's like they should continue to do what they're known for.

The thing is, you can get everything online. There's nothing left to the imagination anymore.

They have less, though.

Maybe because they'll be more artistic, maybe more erotic.

Oh, you know what?

It is?

Less is more. What?

It's Hef. He feels very guilty because of his relationship with Cosby and he's trying to purge himself now.

No. You think? I see that. No, he's not on a limb. So. So the thing is, is that. That's a good one, though. I like. That was a nice stretch there.

So do you think people start reading the articles?

Well, they always did read the articles. That's the thing. People always said. Oh, wait, well, that was always the joke, right? I get it for the articles. Just like. Did you get it for the articles? Yeah, you don't have to answer.

I read that some comedian or somebody said that he's gonna start reading Playboy in the nude so the articles don't feel lonely.

Somebody said that?

That is a great joke. They say they'll no longer publish it fully nude women beginning this spring. And it comes as part of a redesign. They'll be unveiled. They said the magazine will still feature women in provocative poses. Not just gonna be like, you know, clothes and dogs and stuff. Dogs? I don't know. I' but they will no longer bear all when the March issue is released. And they say the onslaught of Internet pornography has made the nude images in Playboy passe. So the battle's been fought and won. You're now one click away from every sex imaginal.

I'm angry for the 12 year old girl whose dream it is to be in Playboy one day nude. And that dream is now dead.

She's like a young girl now. I know. I actually thought maybe I'd be in Playboy.

Is this when you had the wand or right after you lost it?

But actually I never use the wand because we're gonna get into.

I'm sort of glad you skipped that.

What?

Posing in Playboy.

Yeah, I did. Don't worry, I've been.

She posted oui instead O U I.

You know that French, I figured it was in France. Everyone's new there.

I wouldn't know about it. That would be good.

Yeah, exactly. I try to keep that in. Sweet. Another thing that I was talking about is the Walmart, Alabama Walmart. Mistakenly stocks gun counter with gun oil. Lube. Have you heard of gun oil?

Yeah. Yeah.

It's a really good lube.

Right.

I know you guys like lube, so. Lube. And so it's called gun oil. It's one of my. It's actually a really good brand. And some guy went in and you got to watch the video because he's like, hey, what's this? Gun oil? And he looks at. He reads it, and it's actually lube. People at Walmart make the mistake of putting it on the wrong shelf.

This is my weapon. This is my gun. This is for fighting. This is for fun. That's the whole thing. They should know the difference between weapons and guns.

I know.

They don't.

Exactly. So that was funny, too.

All right, questions.

Okay.

Questions for the parents. You know what? She's so forthcoming. Emily is so great, and we know so much about her. Cause she's not really ashamed or embarrassed about anything. So I don't really have any questions for her.

Okay.

Because I feel like I know so much.

Yeah.

I mean, I can ask you a question that I just. Cause I know everybody asks me. It's like, what do your parents think of what you do? I get asked that every day. That. And are guys intimidated to date you? But this is the. Everyone. What does your parents think?

Well, it's okay. I admire what you do because I think that you do a really good job. Sometimes it's hard to read some of your emails. Emails. Because I sort of cringe a little bit. But on the other hand, I just sort of. That's who you are. I mean, you're creative and you think outside the box, and it's all good.

Ed, are you comfortable with it? Ed's in my stepdad for 30 years, just like my dad.

I am pretty much every now. Every now and then I'll say, sue, look what Emily has to say.

They get my email blasts.

It's sweet that they read them.

Perhaps we're not being adventurous. Element enough, but we've been together a long time.

Well, Ed was sitting in my. We were at dinner the other night there in LA now, and Ed says, well, we read your email. We're thinking of spicing things up in the bedroom as we suggested. He was joking. It was cute.

I don't know.

I don't know. He didn't go beyond that, but it was nice.

Let me ask you guys questions.

Sure.

How many times, to be honest, how many times have you lied about what Emily does when talking to acquaintances?

Never. I never lie. Ever. Ever.

Mom, you've said she talks about relationships.

But that's not a lie.

She skips the sex part.

I sometimes do. I'm a financial planner and work with a lot of senior citizens, so. But I. But you do talk about relationships. That's not a lie.

But she's not like sexfamily.com.

She'S like that Robert Durst guy where she doesn't tell the whole truth. She doesn't lie. She just doesn't tell everything.

Exactly.

Pretty much, yeah.

She talks into a microphone and writes stuff.

I think I always say that, like, that you guys are private. Because it was really touch and go for a while. When I wasn't making a living, I couldn't figure out. I just was the artist doing a podcast that had a lot of downloads, but I couldn't pay my rent.

Correct.

And that was a scary time. And my mom for years was like, what's your plan B? And I was like, oh, I can't stop. I love. I found my passion.

You got to love. You got to love that they. You'd be living on the streets and talking to a microphone at night if you had.

Exactly. I was almost living on the streets.

I love that passion about you. I do.

Thank you. Thank you. So some other questions that some people. I asked. Some people had some questions, though, that they sent in and that I said that you were gonna be on the show, and they wanna know if you ever gave me the talk. But I don't remember anything.

I don't remember ever really giving you the talk. I know, but I would have, and I'm sorry if I. If I didn't.

It's okay. No, I was fine. I figured it out last year.

She did figure it out very late in life. Were you worried that maybe she. I was sexual daughter?

No, I was never worried that she was. She was never. She never gave off vibes that she.

Would be asexual because that's how she paints herself. She paints herself as, like, this very unsexual person.

All I never knew about. Okay, we're gonna. I never knew about. No, I had sex. I had sex. I was like 17, but I never knew about masturbation. Never occurred to me. You know, a lot of women, they just, you know, that's what you figure it out. And so I guess, you know, and that's why I think it should be talked about in schools, because you probably assumed that I would figure it out. I bought the one.

I thought it was sign of good parenting, too, because you're not like, looking for ways to self soothe, you know, like kids with traumatic childhoods from, like, bad parenting. They're masturbating all the time.

Yeah, but a lot of kids from good, they just think, oh, I wonder what's going on down there.

A lot of time it's self soothing, trauma induced. Trying to make your parents look even better than they are.

But. But you know what the best thing, mom, is? What I do remember, people always say the best. So I never. And I've talked about this, the show, how, like, I was a late bloomer. Like, I really, like, I started having sex and I was like, what's all the hype about? Like, I, when I was 17, lost Kurt, my school boyfriend.

I'm sure he appreciates this.

He was a. He's my friend on Facebook. He was my football player in high school. And. And I started thinking, what the hell's all the hype about? And then I got to college and you remember all my friends, Mary, Everyone was like. They were talking about orgasms. And I was like, what? What is this? And then you all kind of were like, helping me.

Right. I went out and bought a book.

Yeah, you bought me a book.

That was a family project.

Well, because they were like, what, you never owned? No, my mom.

Passover. You must.

No, we were on board. We went out for dinner with our friends and we. It was the topic of conversation. How can we help Emily?

Yeah. And you bought me that book, Lonnie Barback for herself, which is still a great book.

Right.

And then finally you were like, just chill out. You're like, do you ever, like, smoke pot? Maybe you should smoke a joint before you say, it's not even like, my mom smokes pot. She was like, maybe you should just chill out. And that was the only sex advice I think you ever gave me. Which, actually, it's true. It does kind of work sometimes.

That sounds like my advice, Susan. I use that kind of advice all the time on this show.

You do too.

I'd say people should have a few drinks, put a little cocaine on their penis.

Oh, dude, not that. Anyway, it was funny. So what did you think? And someone else asked, what do you think of my dating habits as a teenager, for example?

Or.

Yeah, well, I mean, you went with Kurt and then you went with Mark.

Right.

And he was nice. I mean, you always picked nice guys. And two and a half years was about your limit.

Still is.

Yep.

A lot less than that, though.

Two and a half years, over and out.

Yep, I was always out.

Found the fatal flaw.

There Was always a fatal flaw.

Always. And I think that that was probably.

True, but used to. Ed, you saw the fatal flaws too, right?

Yes, I did. And.

The guys that you knew, that I met were really nice, but they did have a fatal flaw.

What were some of the flaws?

Too much alcohol.

Too much alcohol.

I did the Irish Catholic alcoholic thing for a while.

Control.

Yeah. And control.

Heavy control.

Just that one. My mom pulled me aside. I had this boyfriend. I thought it was good because I'm really. I'm not a great organizer. I'm not a great packer. And I love that he was, like, laid out my packed for me and was like, you should bring these clothes and that clothes. And I thought it was great because I'm not organized. And then he came home with me to Michigan for a wedding. This is like in my late 20s. And my mom pulls me aside. We were at a restaurant, and she'd go in the bathroom, she goes, listen, he's very controlling. My mom's not like an overbearing. She's like, do you remember this? Oh, I do.

I did an intervention.

What did you see?

Well, what happened was he said to us, like, he thought this was funny. He said, emily is my project.

Right.

I thought, oh, my God. Red flag. Red flag.

Why do you say that to parents especially?

Well, because that tells you something.

I'm gonna fix something that you.

So I grabbed her in the bathroom. I said, he's gotta go.

Yeah. You know, that just makes her like a morph.

No, no, no, no. Like that. I'm ready for that.

Because I never say that. That's not like me.

You've actually never said that. That's a very memorable moment.

You're still friends with him on Facebook?

Yeah, actually, I am. He's got a job, actually, in San Francisco. Funny enough. Yeah. I'm friends with all my ex boyfriends.

Oh, look who's controlling who now, huh? You got him a job.

He's divorced, isn't it?

Yeah, he's divorced.

Shocking.

Who isn't, right? What about. Do you remember, like, any fun prom, high school dance stories? People asked?

Well, I remember you going. I mean, I remember that red dress.

Yeah, the sweater. The sweater.

What sweater?

Ed, you were in an accident. And this was before I moved from Chicago.

It's a good story.

We got to the hospital and.

Car accident.

And. Car accident. And you were. You weren't hurt badly, but you weren't hurt.

You weren't driving?

No, my friend Trisha was driving.

So we got there, your mother said, she's wearing my Good sweater.

That's the first thing she said.

Don't say anything to her. You can't say anything.

And it's coated. It's coated with blood.

I was fine, though. And my mom. No, but you did, though. You couldn't hold back. You're like, that's my nice sweater.

About 20 seconds. She didn't say anything.

She couldn't let it go.

I'm in blood on a fucking gurney in the hospital, and my mom's like, that's my sweater. I told you.

And you were wearing my diaper.

I know. I'm sorry, Mom. I was like, 16.

The diamonds managed to survive, though. Yeah.

Everything survived.

The bloody sweater did not.

Sorry about that.

But.

Well, first I made sure she was okay.

She's like, oh, you're fine. You have a pulse. Why are you wearing my sweater?

Right. All right.

This is good.

I forgot that story. Any other good stories?

I had forgotten that one.

Well, that was a really good one.

That is a great one. Oh, my God.

You ever, when you're in high school, ever have sex in the house?

Not. I don't. Not with my brother. Did. All the time. You were saying the other night. I never. No, I don't think I ever did. Not with you home.

I'm glad to hear that.

I mean, no, not with you home.

I used to date girls where they do stuff. We'd be in the backseat of her parents car and she would like to try and do stuff with the parents in the front seat. Like, we're on our way to dinner.

I'm like, just stop it.

It's horrifying.

No, I was.

You weren't that girl.

No, I was kind of a prude. I mean, I was a good girl.

My kids were really respectful at home. They were. You guys, both of you.

Yeah, we were both successful professionals now. You did a good job. I met them both.

Ah, thank you.

She met Michael, was on the show, my brother.

Very different. Very different.

Very different.

That happened.

That happens all the time in families. The kids got to find a niche. Like, she saw that that niche was already covered.

That's exactly right.

Yeah.

They're both really good and talented at what they do, and they're on opposite ends of the spectrum.

I do like the idea of you guys talking to somebody conservative in Detroit, where you live, and, you know, your contemporaries, and talking about your. Your son and how he's a success, successful lawyer. And then you get to Emily and saying, well, she. She tells people how to orgasm.

Well, for years, my mom, like, you know, oh, Emily she's our free spirit.

She's always said, Emily's my free spirit.

Sounds like Susan's a free spirit too. And she smokes some weed. So you can come.

Yeah, my mom is. My mom is a free spirit. My mom's a very independent woman. Yes. And she's. Yeah. And Ed too. You guys are great couple. They've been together 30 years. Ed met when he was 15.

Yep.

Yeah, it's good times.

The. The wolf child. When you were 15.

But that was that bad?

Yeah.

Like a feral child.

Well, sometimes.

What did I do? I was just.

No, when you got angry.

Oh, tell me more. I've never seen her.

I wasn't good. When you were angry, what'd I do? Well, it was difficult. You come charging in and so you.

Would like you lock you out of the bedroom.

I'd lock you out of the bedroom because I was.

I was screaming. What was I mad about anything. I was 15.

You would beat on the door and say, let me in.

You were a typical 15 year old.

But I didn't do anything really bad though.

You were a great kid, actually. I mean, you had a little trouble studying.

Focusing. You're focusing until you were 16 and then you decided school was important, Right?

I turned my mind. I turned around because my parents. What happened was they were. I didn't really care about school that much. And then in Michigan you have to have a car and I always worked. I started working when I was 14. I got a job after school.

Doing what?

I worked at a clothing store. What was my Coats Unlimited.

Coats Unlimited.

I remember that.

And Ros and Sherm.

Yeah, Ros and Sherm. It was this really fancy high end women's clothing store.

You hook your mom up with a new sweater?

No, but I got all dressed up really cute. And the first day I got there.

She called me crying. She says I'm so cute. I look so cute. And they've got me doing stock in the back.

In the back room.

Welcome to the world.

I was like, why? Why? Why? So then I got bad grades and I went to camp that summer and I didn't turn in a library book so my mom wouldn't get my report card. It's my sophomore year.

Wait, what's the connection there?

You've been attorney because you don't get the report card. And I wouldn't know how badly she did. And she was going off to camp for this.

So I purposely didn't turn it because they won't give you, which is stupid.

Wait, there are a loophole that Is really dumb. Like, if you break a rule, we won't send your parents grades on how you're doing.

Right.

But I got the report card, and it was. We camp up in Canada, and Ed and I are driving up there. And he said, you can't say anything to Emily about her bad report card. And I waited about an hour.

It was her.

Like, the sweater. I couldn't help it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You made sure she had a pulse. And she was. She was doing okay at camp.

Well, it was real. I really wanted her to get good grades because I had bribed her. I said, if you get good grades, I'll buy you a car. I really wanted her to have the car so I could work and not have to worry about being home.

Right. But what I was saying is, I work. I paid for half the car. I remember the first car. And so. But you said you wouldn't. Because that was always our deal, that I'd pay for half and you pay for half. And you said, we won't do that. So that's all I needed to hear. That's funny, because when you turn 16 in Michigan, you have to get. And I got this little podiac.

So it was Motor City.

Yeah.

But you know what's funny, though? Your cardinal rule on your show is, like, never bribe anyone for sex. Your mom was bribing you.

Because I was like, I cannot. So then I all of a sudden got all A's. I was like, I need. And then I just. Then I got obsessed with school and studying. So. Thanks for turning me around there.

You're welcome. Nothing to it.

On a track. And she.

No, really. I got upset. It was like.

When she made up her mind. Yeah, she did great.

I got all A's, went to college, graduated honors. Like. But before that, I could give a.

Thank God you didn't learn the orgasm till later because I doubt you would have been able to do so.

I would have been distracted. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Good times.

See? It's all good.

Yeah.

It all worked out.

Someone stole that back massager.

I want. I wish Michael was awake. I want to know. I was just. It was gone.

I'm just saying, you know how different your life could have been, right? Because you might have stumbled across it by mistake.

No, I really just thought. Cool. I love massage. I was 13.

I know, but you might have stumbled. You know what I mean? Like, literally, like, stumbled onto it and then learned about it earlier and then fucked up in school and you wouldn't.

Right. Exactly.

Thank God someone stole it.

Thank God. Okay.

Alter the course of your life.

I'm actually gonna have you guys help answer some questions from the people.

Okay.

Okay. So I want to thank everyone for emailing me feedbackexwithemily.com and everyone's been so great because they're actually. I want you to tell me where you're. Where you're from, where you live, how old you are and how you listen to the show. And people have been great about that. Oh, but first, before I get to questions, I've got something to say. I'm gonna tell you a little bit more about the Sibian. Okay, Pay attention. I've been throwing out a few mentions here and there about how I received a Sibian because we were just getting to know each other. I wasn't really getting so I wasn't really getting into the details of it with my audience. But I'm ready to spill the beans. This will change your sex life. You may think you know all about the Sibian, but forget what you've heard because it's so different from any other sex product you've seen before. In fact, it's much more than a sex story. I'm so excited for you guys to see this tomorrow. The Sibian is a full on sexual experience. One that you can enjoy solo or with a partner. For one thing, it's the only sex product with a unique mountable design that simulates the feeling of being with a partner on with woman on top position. Except that just looking at me. And the cool thing about the Sibian is that each woman has the power to customize her experience every time she uses it and makes it work for her. It has 11 different attachments. You've got ones that like, they're like dildo attachments, like a penis or a finger shaped one or clitoral ones. You get stimulation all over. And this is all to provide you with a variety of orgasms. You know, you choose different ones, different orgasms. And there's no limit on this to the way that you can experience a Sibian because every time it's different and every machine is as unique as a woman who's using it. So a lot of women have trouble reaching orgasm during intercourse. I was one of them, I've admitted. And I know there's a lot of you out there as well. So sibbing could be the secret to unlocking your orgasmic potential. Because they say, well, I know this. I've actually done a ton of research. And it's amazing when you read their testimonies on their site, if you do repeated Rides in the Sibian, you can actually train your body to orgasm, making it easier to experience multiple orgasms and increase sexual response with the partner. So if you're. You're on it and you learn it, then you can move that same way with your partner and then have an orgasm. And because of the unique design of the Sabian, once you learn how to orgasm with it, you transfer that to your partner. The way you move all that stuff. Sound fun, mom? Oh, and if I mentioned how hard it will be for your partner to watch you on it. So here's a testimonial from a Sibian person user. She had her first orgasm ever. My husband and I have been married for 17 years, and I always thought our sex life was okay, but I didn't get too excited about it. My first time in the Sibian, I can hardly describe the feeling I had. My body just exploded. It was just unreal. What happened to me. I soon realized at the age of 38 with the Sibian, I had my first orgasm ever. I now started having orgasms while making love to my husband. And I have Sibian to thank. She's from Texas.

Wow.

Okay. Ed's from Texas. To hear what other people have to say, the customers, just check it out. You guys have to go to cibian.com seriously, just read about it. You got to get to know it. And as a special treat for my listeners, you get $75 off your first order with code EMILY75. That's emily75an.coms y b I a n dot com. Okay, back to the emails. That wasn't too uncomfortable.

It's like a mechanical bull almost.

Yeah, but it's not that heavy. I mean, I brought in the office today because we did a little photo shoot with it.

Yeah, you got to take a picture. Not anything exploitative, but you got to take a picture.

It's on the website. Oh. And if you want to win one. But this is a major giveaway. We just posted the blog and you'll see a picture of it up. We wrote how to do it. It's a really fun contest because naming it. Remember last week you said, did you name it? And I was like, no. And then a bunch of people like, you name it. I need to name it. It's like, my man.

So that's the contest now.

Yeah. Check it out.

You need to take a picture of your parents, like, discovering it. Not discovering it, but, like, looking at it. You know what I mean?

We are Stanley. Okay. Stanley's.

I have put Stanley on top of the city and have your parents.

I love Stanley, but he sheds a lot. I know.

I told you.

I hug him so much. His dog on my left. Okay, emails. Thank you for emailing me feedback. Hey, Emily. I'm a recent listener, but I love your podcast already. I've been dating this girl for about a month and we're really hitting it off. She just recently got out of a serious relationship and I just recently broke up with a long term ex. We're taking it slow, but I can already see it getting serious. My question to you is now, sometimes she'll be all over me and other times a little more reserved. What's the best way to reach someone like that? I really like her and don't want to be too pushy. Any advice would help. Thanks, Sean. So he's with someone. How long they've been together A month. And they're. But she's hot and cold already. But they've only been together a month. I think he's kind of overthinking it. There's not a lot of options here because they just started dating and you're taking it slow. You really can't expect a lot from a relationship and you're both getting out of our relationship. So maybe he's overthinking it. What do you guys think?

I think he's overthinking it.

A month. You hardly get to after a month with your mother. I didn't even know her last name. So it's true.

Oh, no.

I didn't know how. Well, I didn't know how to spell it.

I knew Morris. Morris. People get it confused. I'm always like the code, not like the cat.

So the key is to give it a little time. A few months, I think.

Yeah, right. It's new. Like, and people are hot and cold at the beginning sometimes because they. Yeah, you agree.

And if she just got out of a relationship, she's got issues. Who doesn't?

Right. And he did too.

Right.

Maybe she's still healing. So it's actually better if you just go slow. And the relationships that we, you know, if you start a relationship hot and heavy, the ones that go boom and you go on fire.

Burns out.

It's like a song that when you first hear a song that you really like, it's like, oh, this is a great song. And then you get sick of it real fast.

Exactly.

When I met Ed, it was so good because he lived in Chicago.

Yeah, right. Long distance. I like that.

My wife lived in San Francisco. I lived down here. Like, I'D go up and see her every three weeks, but it was like, you know, distance makes the heart, right?

It's true.

Really does.

Yeah. So you guys didn't have to. You were sight each other once every two weeks or something, right?

Exactly.

Yeah. For two years before I moved to Detroit.

I think that's a good deal.

I do, too. Because you can't burn out.

Exactly. Right? I think I wish that. Well, that's why I used to do long distance relationships. I actually preferred them for a while. That's part of my face.

I could see that. Hey, this guy also, I think he might want to look into the. The possibility that he's a codependent a little bit, maybe.

Really?

Because you want to read into that a little bit. It sounds like he's bouncing from one relationship to the next to making this one, like, really important, like he's trying to fill that hole.

You're right. You know, and we often do that. We often tend to, like, try to heal our past relationships.

Yeah.

Yeah. And so I think that you should both take it. So. And I actually think you should be dating other people too, right now.

You should be diversifying, like Ed probably was when he first met Susan.

Were you at her?

No, we never did, actually. We never did.

We sold a lot of votes before we met each other.

So when we met, actually, we celebrated the day we met as our anniversary for 10 years until we finally got married.

They waited 10 years to get married.

That is so sweet.

Yeah, I know. It was really sweet.

I waited like, seven.

Maybe you did. Yeah. I think it's good, you guys.

Oh, it was fine.

I used to tell sue that I made a much better boyfriend than husband because I'd been married before.

Right.

But that wasn't true.

He was afraid that, like, the marriage would ruin the relationship.

Right.

You guys are both afraid of that?

That was a concern. But we had friends who told us that it changes the relationship. It's kind of hard to explain why. We had a friend who used to refer to his wife Ida, who we both knew really well. And instead of saying Ida, he had to say my wife. And so we used to say, why doesn't he just say Ida? We know who she is. Then after we got married, we did the same thing. I say my wife this, my wife that, and everybody knows it's Susan.

Right.

But I don't say that. I say my mom.

I hear you say that. Well, I guess you're talking to me. You say your mom.

Why is that?

Yeah, I do. You know what I'M not sure. We had a friend years ago who told us it just takes the relationship to a different place.

Go ahead.

I do a couple different shows. One show I'm a real jerk on, it's a film show called the Film Vault, and my co host has brain cancer. And I'm really mean to him because he's bad at knowing good movies. Right. But it's a shtick we have going back and forth. But since he has brain cancer, he's always considered the victim. And I'm the. I'm the mean guy. And I never want to associate my. My wife with me, so I call her the wife on that show. But then on my other show where I got my nice guy, I call her by her name and I say it's Jillian, my wife, but I just don't want to associate her with me because I'm such a horrible dick on that.

And what are you, like, on this show? This show?

I'm just like your brother.

I'm like.

You are like my brother, back and forth guy.

He's like a nice brother, though.

Yeah.

I mean, my brother's nice. I'm just kidding.

I'm just like me on this show. I'm not trying to be anything I know. You know, on the Film Vault, that's what we're trying to be.

We're all just being. We're all just being ourselves on this show. I'm.

We're real, you know, the wife, Susan, the wife.

Susan the wife. You guys are really cute. Okay. I love you guys. Okay. Another email.

They're awesome.

I know, right?

Can they watch my dog?

They're going back to you. Don't. You really don't trust me?

No, I do, I do.

I've got hair coming out of complaining.

About the hair 20 minutes in.

That's.

She's great with a dog. She really is.

I'm obsessed. It's gonna be amazing. Okay? We're gonna have the best time together. I'm looking forward to Instagram World or something Land. What?

I'm looking forward to the Instagram picture.

Don't worry. I said we're gonna put them in a flashlight video in the office.

Just keep it off a snout, please.

I will, I promise.

Okay.

Okay. This is about a lackluster relationship and his penis.

Keep it off his penis, please.

Dear Emily, I just want to say I'm a huge fan of your show. I found it a couple months ago and I'm hooked up. I love how open you are about sex. I think menace and Anderson added interesting and comical perspective to the show.

Aww.

Who's menace?

My name is also Emily. I'm 24 year old college student studying environmental science. I live in eastern Pennsylvania with my boyfriend of little over a year. When our relationship first started, he couldn't keep his hands off me. I understand over time this changes but. But it's like he doesn't even want it anymore at all. I always have to initiate sex and then I'm always on top. He doesn't reject sex from me ever. And when we do have sex, he's just always on the bottom. The lack of interest is beginning to severely impact my once great self esteem. I thought we might be spending too much time together as we just spent the last several months hiking long distance and confined to woods in a tent. Then came home and started living together. So we spend less time together and it's just not fixing things. About a month ago I came to him about this nearly crying and explained that I love him and I love having sex with him, but I feel so undesired. He said he'd fix things and I haven't seen a change in anything. I've tried buying toys, lube, spicing things up. I bought a butt plug and lube and I love both so much and he my son.

How is the butt plug gonna like make him say all right, let's do it dude.

You never know you have a butt.

Plug in there right now, honey.

And he enjoys them too. But I'm tired of always having to initiate everything. I'm beginning to feel pretty terrible about myself. He still masturbates. I'm kind of left wondering what's wrong with me that he doesn't want me. Please help me. Signed Emily.

How old is she?

She's 24.

24?

Yeah.

Too young for this, bro.

Well, that's the thing. You're too young. But I understand why you're feeling that way. It's really hard when he doesn't feel reciprocated.

No, that would be horrible, right?

To not feel desired. It's really hard on the self esteem. I hear this from a lot of women and men. It goes both ways.

I think it's running rampant right now too. Why more so than it like in years past because of the readily available porn on. The guys are always going to want the variety, you know what I mean? And just because they have. He's probably very attracted to her. But he's still got, especially if he's young, he still wants variety. He's probably not out cheating on her, but he still would maybe rather masturbate than have sex with her.

It's a lot easier.

It's.

It's.

It's a lot more variety, and it's easier, and it might fulfill his fantasies. But she sounds pretty freaky with the butt plugs.

I know. I know. I like her. I mean, I like this. So. I mean, sex is so important in a relationship. And if you're already not connecting, I understand. You need the physical. You need the emotional connection. And then when one person is giving that attention and initiating all the time, the other one's gonna start to resent.

That becomes a power dynamic, too.

It does.

And she's got to be careful not to seem needy. It's a slippery slope. She's got to be really careful.

I know. And he's always down for it. But then, you know, as a woman especially, like, you just want to feel desired. You want to feel like. She's like, what's wrong with me? And he's not trying any new positions. But you guys are both still young. But it happens in relationships all the time. So I think that you're doing. I think she's doing everything right. What do you think?

I don't know. I mean, she sounds young. They're both young. So I don't know. Maybe it's just not a great relationship.

I think it's over.

I mean, what do you think, Ed? I think.

I think it's over to have that kind of problem with that age, you know, Usually hear that from guys older my age.

Right.

But fatal flaw.

Fatal flaw.

That is definitely a fatal flaw.

No, it is a fatal flaw. So, I mean, everything I would recommend, like, she's already done. And so I think this is his issue, and she's not gonna force him to change. And you've already talked to him about it. I won't say, dump him tomorrow. I'm saying you could, like, let him know that it's gotten to that point. Tell him, use feeling words. Not, like, don't attack them for things like, you never initiate and you never. My mom's like, those are her words. But say, you know, I really feel like it would mean a lot to me if you initiated it, and I want to feel desired, and it's important to me. And she already said she didn't see a change, but if you still do that, I mean, I just think that, you know, it might be time to call it quits. Because when the sex is not there and you're feeling frustrated and you're trying to work on won't last.

At least approach him about.

Being a break, having a breakup. And don't make it all about this necessarily. I'm sure there's other things that the guy does.

Right?

But I mean, Emily. Yes, Listen, email Emily. Email Emily these years, like 24, like they're valuable sexual years. And like every day that goes by, that's a wasted sexual day. That's, that's like worth like two weeks worth when you're like 45.

I know, it's true. No, absolutely.

And they're living every day that she's not having sex with this guy. It's just wasted butt plugs and sexual.

She's got a butt plug and he's like, get on top. I'm just gonna sit here.

These days are gonna be gone before you know it.

I mean. And now another thing is though, he could be depressed. He could be, you know, when guys are stressed.

No, but a lot of times that that's actually affects men's libido more than anything.

The last six months, you know, I'm not getting personal, but you know, it's the wife and I haven't as nearly as much as we used to because I've been so busy and she's been so busy.

Right, right. Interesting.

Nothing against her.

So that's another thing, Emily, to look at is this just happened. Like you guys have been together how long did you say? Few years?

About a year.

About a year. So did something mark it happen in his life? Did he lose a job? Is he worried about money? I mean, it could be circumstantial, but you know, I would still keep trying to talk to him about it because a lot of times people say, oh, we talked about it and it's one time. And you know, in relationships.

And how did you talk about it?

And I bet it came up like right before she had her period and she was like very, you know, feeling vulnerable.

That happens sometimes.

How does she know he masturbates? How does she know that?

Well, we all know.

How does she know?

Because he probably looks at his browser.

He tells her guys are sad.

You know, another thing is speaking of sheets earlier guys don't clean their goddamn sheets.

But you can return those sheets.

Mom. When my 20s, like, at least guys now I date, like they know good sheets, but really it's a turn off. And they don't like gross sheets and then they don't change up.

That's disgusting.

Sorry.

Mom, Your sheets are gonna be filthy with Stanley sleeping in there.

I, I, I'm already, I, I, I Don't mind. I'm like, I stand here all over me. I'm not complaining at all.

Poor maids.

I want to talk to you guys though. Mom and dad.

Oh, okay.

What?

You know, all the. Real quick and we'll get back, you know, all like the. The back and forth we were doing with the housekeeper earlier today. The housekeeper's coming and she doesn't know what to do with Stanley because the housekeeper's gonna be there.

She.

Emily, your daughter was telling a story a couple weeks ago that she had sex while her housekeeper was in the. The house. Right. With the door closed in the back. Am I telling. Am I saying too much? Here's what's worse. She remembered that her sex toys were left out on the kitchen counter cuz she was washing them. And the poor maid is out there.

No, they were on the drain board. She didn't.

What kind of a woman did you raise?

I forgot.

I'm learning new things.

Anything else?

You know where you like you put the dishes up so they can dry like on. She had her like dildos and whatnot.

I wasn't having her wash.

I was impressed that she was washing.

That's pretty good.

I thought that was good. That's growth.

Thank you. Shirt. Now, I don't cook yet, but I'm all growns up. I wanted to ask you guys though, if you don't mind 30 years together and you don't have to talk about your sex life. You don't. But you guys really, truly are adorable and happy together and you love spending time together. And I'm just wondering, what are some of your secrets or what do you think works for you?

Well, I think we like doing a lot of the same things. We. But we also. Also, we're both really busy and have really full lives and so we're not home together all of the time. And that makes it interesting. And I.

We have time apart.

We have time apart and we sometimes take separate vacations.

How many times a year? Yeah, they do.

Well, not vacations. Well.

Ed comes to Texas to visit his family.

Does he? The hall pass when he gets to. No hall pass.

No, not like. No, we don't care.

Yeah, We've always had fun together. And one of the first things sue said after we'd been together a few months, she was telling someone that I was the first guy that she had ever enjoyed spending time with as much as her girlfriend.

That's a big sign.

That was good.

That's really good. What about you, Mom? What about you, Ed? What was different about my mom, she.

Was independent and I had. I've had relationships before where women I. That were really nice, women that I thought were completely independent, but after a while they became needy.

Needy and clingy.

And clingy. And your mom never did that?

Oh, she's the least clingy.

You know, 30 years later, she's still not needy.

Least clingiest person I've ever met.

Exactly.

She's an independent spirit.

So. And I real. I'm independent too.

Right? You are too. Of course.

It really works for us. I go to Texas to visit my family, or she'll go with the girlfriends up north for a weekend or to Florida for a few days, whatever. And you know, for the first two days I get to flip channels and watch TV till 1 o' clock in the morning, whatever. But then when she comes home, it's really great to be back.

Because you miss her?

Yeah, I miss her.

I think that's really important. See, I always tell couples that too. They. They never take time apart and it's. I think that's crucial. It's like I was saying earlier, joking about the long distance relationship, but it is true that you need your space to come back together again. Because so many couples also for their, their sex lives as well, if you never have that separation. Because the thing that makes sex so great in the beginning of relationships is when you have that distance and that unknown and that uncertainty and you don't know when you're gonna see each other and everything's new and exciting. But if you are living together 247 and you never take vacations apart and you never. How do you keep that interesting?

It's hard.

I would.

I mean, it works for us.

Do. Or do you. How about your friends? They do that. They travel separately.

Some do, some don't. It's not, you know, not so.

Not so many, not so much.

Most of. Most of the people that in our groups at home do not.

Now, you guys are a good couple.

I'm hearing you guys are like totally secure with each other too, which is. I did not experience that at all growing up. My parents, my dad in particular, like, he was so jealous of every. My mom would have to lie about going out to see a girlfriend of hers. She'd have to lie and say she's going to work. That's what, that's what I grew up with in my crazy house.

Yeah, Ed's just jealous because he's not included with the girlfriends.

I can see that. I get you there, Ed. I feel you. It's fun. Going out with just the girls and being one of the girls sometimes, I love that.

It really is. Ed would love to be invited, but.

He'S not one dad.

Not to strive for, not so.

Not so much. I try, but I've always enjoyed being around women. There are a lot of strong women in my family. My mother, my grandmother, some of my aunts. I had an aunt that was. She was a deputy sheriff in Arkansas back in the. Back in the 30s, the 1930s. And her sister ran a roadhouse between Dallas and a little town south of. They're called Waxahachie. So. Always had strong women. And everyone in my family, my son, my cousins, they all really appreciate strong women. And so strong, independent women have always appealed to me. And I finally found one just right.

A lot of guys are not into that. You know, I understand that. You know, I'm in.

When I was dating and, you know, I went on a few dates and a guy would say, well, what do you do? And I would tell them, and I'd say, they'd say, do you like it? Oh, I love it. And you'd practically watch them run away because you were saying I wasn't needy and I wasn't. And they didn't like that. They found that independence threatening.

And.

Well, also, I can tell you from experience, my own personal experience. Personal experience, like when you're insecure and you need somebody, you need to be somebody's everything. Especially as a young man, like, that's not appealing. It's like, oh, you don't need me. Like every girl that I dated until my wife, pretty much like I was their little everything. And like, that's what I needed. I thought that that's what I needed. My wife is very much like you and like Emily, very, very independent. You know, she loves me a lot, but I could go away for a couple days. She'll miss me, but she'll survive. She's not gonna.

Right.

You know what I mean? Once you get past that insecurity level.

I guess I've always. I've always been independent. I mean, I think. I don't think about that now, but I am independent with guys. I wonder if maybe if dating guys now is a turn off. Someone was telling me that they're like a lawyer, a really high powered lawyer. And she's like, I can't tell guys. I don't tell them. Cause they get threatened.

Yeah, they do, huh?

Never thought about, we're gonna lie. I'm not gonna hide what I do. I have a whole host of other issues Just sex. Just saying that I have a sex talk show. That's all I'm talking about.

Just say relationship like your mom says.

Exactly. It's so funny. Do we have time for one more?

Hey, Emily. I'm a new listener to the sexually podcast, so I'm catching up. However, I did listen to the friend zone podcast. You did? And this is where I need your help. I'm 29 years old. I haven't been so lucky with the ladies, whether a casual hookup, unless there was alcohol involved, or dating. So I'm talking to a friend, and we go back and forth and we vent about our single lives and try to help each other with relationship advice. Meanwhile, I ask her throughout hints that I want to take her on a date, and she just keeps on giving excuses. And her ex pretty much destroyed who she was. This and that, which I get. Cause he's a big time douchebag. Now. My question to you is, what can I tell her? She finally gives me a shot and goes on a date with me. Thank you, AJ from NJ, NJ. The friend zone. You know what that is, you guys?

I'm learning.

Okay, so a friend zone is kind of this term that we use when we say, like, you know, a lot of, well, women and men can be friend zoned, but a lot of guys get themselves. They get friend zoned because they meet a woman, a girl that they're into, and they're like, oh, I'll do all these nice things for her. I'll, you know, I'll fix her tire. If she gets, you know, get flat tire. I'll talk to her about her woes. And they do all this, like, stuff that's like a friend like, or they do boyfriend like stuff without even being her boyfriend. And the girl's like, oh, well, he's my friend, or he's, you know, and. And then the girl just thinks you're my friend, but they put her in that zone because he doesn't make it known that he's interested. So guys get in the friend zone, and sometimes once you're in the friend zone, you can never get out.

It's hard to get out.

Exactly. So I want to know, aj, do you think that this friend wants to become something more? I'm wondering. But a lot of times guys can't tell. They just assume, like, they have a hard time reading. Have you read that, like, for women, do you hear, like, after the fact that a woman was into you and you didn't know?

I have, actually.

Yeah. So a lot of times Guys can't read it. So it sounds like you guys have a good platonic friendship. And from her responses, it sounds like that might be what she's looking for. But.

Most girls, if they go out with someone, they will pick up cues.

I think girls are smarter than guys, and they know, and they. They kind of like having a little, like, male harem of friend zone guys knowing that also, like, hey, if I ever fall on hard times, this guy's always gonna be here.

That is true, though. But. And she sits and talked to him about her ex. And I've actually had guy friends. I guess it never turned into relationships, but maybe I slept with them once by mistake. Like, I slipped and fell on their penis.

That's another thing, is they're hoping that they find an Emily who will, by mistake, have sex with them once, and they'll take that like crumb. Any crumbs will get.

Yeah, that's true.

They get desperate.

I mean, and also, aj, here's the thing. Even if you. She does, like, whip you over to the boyfriend zone, she's going through something right now. She's going through a breakup. This guy was a douchebag. I don't think that she's ready to get into a relationship right now. And so even if she was with you, you might end up getting hurt anyway. And so I just think that, you know, she's made up her mind. I'm not sure there's. You can change it. I mean, I would still like you to be her friend. But here's the thing. If you can still be your friend, that I keep moving with the friendship, but if your feelings for her are so strong, I also think you've nothing to lose. And you can just say to her, you know what? I'm interested.

Like, hey, there is something to lose, though, Em.

What?

A friend relationship. The friend.

Now, let me tell you this.

I've. I've been friends with a girl for, like, six months, and then we became a couple, and we were really, really good together for a long time until she left me for my old best friend. But we were.

It was.

And I appreciated the relationship so much that even if she said, I'm not interested in you romantically, I would still like to be that girl's friend. But that's just me.

Maybe that's just right. Well, we'd say. Yeah, right. Exactly.

I was with her for, like, you know, just friends for six months. And then we became a couple.

And then you get back to friends.

My wife wouldn't like that if I was friends with.

But here's the thing, is that either he can handle or you can't. What I'm saying is, if you can't handle it, what you got to do is that if you're like, you know what? It's fine. I'm just gonna. In the future when I meet women, I'm gonna let them know right away that I'm interested. But with her, if she's really a good friend, hey, you're single. Single girls. I mean, she's got probably a lot of cute friends. You guys can go out as friends. They make great matches. You know, you might meet some of her friends. So just like go out with the groups and hang out with her and you never. That's the best way to meet someone newest through friends.

And I could tell you going like a bar with a good looking friend, that's a girl. I mean, you're gonna. And then other girls will come over and they'll be less intimidated by you because you're with a girl. Then you find out that they're not. You're not together. And I met a lot of girls by going to bars with a girl.

Exactly. Same. It's the best thing ever. When I go with my guys.

There is something to lose here a little bit.

Okay. But all I'm saying is if he can't handle it and he's my God, I love her so much. I love. If he's at the point where he, like, loves her, that's all he thinks about, then he's got to just let her know. But if he can be like, you know what? I'm gonna join her in the friend zone.

Yeah.

So that's. I gotta say, aj, thank you so much. And thank you, Anderson.

I'm sad that the show's over. I want to go for like another hour.

I know, me too. But we can't. We got something to do.

Time restraints.

Thank you, Mom. And thank you, Ed, so much. I love you guys.

Fun.

It's been such fun.

I know, right? Good times.

You guys really are great.

I know. How cute are they? I want to take a picture. We'll put on the website.

You guys remind me of. What I hope that my wife and I are like just a few shorts.

You will be okay. Thank you, Madison. Thank you, Lori and Alyssa and intern Jamie. You guys rock. And thanks everyone for listening. Was it good for you? Email me feedbackexwithemily.com.

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