SWE: Mia Isabella - Transexual Porn Star

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Hi.

Hi.

It's so nice to meet you.

You as well.

I'm so glad this worked out. So Mia Isabella. She is actually. She's a transsexual porn star known as the cutest little TS chick with the biggest candy stick. Hey, it's on your.

It is. It is, yeah.

So, okay. Is your candy stick really 10 inches?

It is.

That's amazing. Okay, we're gonna get into that as well. And you're also exciting that you're. Do you live. You live in the area?

I live in the hills, yeah.

Okay, Right, so. And you're nominated for a big award. I am. I mean, they're. Okay. So I've been to three sex conferences this month, which sounds pretty exciting. A lot of people, they think I'm boning the whole time. It's work. I was at the. The Ann Me show and then avn, which just, you know, crazy in Las Vegas. And now we've got the X Biz. And you're nominated for award tomorrow night.

Yeah.

Which is exciting. For the what?

It's for the best transsexual website. Yeah.

Okay.

So I actually love X Biz. They've been so good to me. I've actually won three awards in the past two years, consecutively.

So congratulations. What were the other awards?

I won best performer of the year, and then I won best adult novelty line for my toy line with Pipe Dreams that I have on.

Oh, great.

I love Pipe Dream.

Gotta talk about toys and all that stuff. So Your website is mia mia-isabella.com. and also this is all on sale.

So it says that this is a little about your bio, your changes. You look like a chameleon. From a blonde bob wig to long black hair and a bondage outfit. You are also the first transsexual to do a voiceover on a video game.

I am? Yeah. Grand Theft Auto 5.

Oh, my God. Do they give you residuals for that?

I wish.

I know, right? I've been tailored too. They're like, here's 500 bucks. We're gonna make a lot of money off you. It pisses me off.

But you know what? That opportunity was incredible. It was the first of its kind and kind of opening up doors for other girls in my genre to know that they can do more than just porn.

Exactly. I think that's great. So I have so many questions for you because I think transsexuals, I think it's. People are confounded by it. Like, they just don't really understand. They're like, you know, because you date men primarily, and so you. Can you just tell me about your beginning and how you first realized that you felt more woman than man and.

How it all happened? Well, as in the case of most transgendered females that I've come across, usually we all know very early on around beginning of childhood development. Mine was when I realized the difference between the social behavior with girls and boys at 4 years old. The girls got to wear pretty clothes and, you know, play with dolls, which is what I wanted to do. And the boys were outside playing in the dirt and getting gross and wearing ugly clothes, and I just didn't want nothing to do with it. Right.

And how were your parents? Well, you know, really be like, here's a truck.

Well, no, no, no. It was more fear because we were from a very affluential family in the south, and they wanted to protect me. And so it was more like they wanted to figure out what was going on and understand it. So, I mean, that made it very lucky for my upbringing because they became very much protective.

I love that because there's so many stories they did. So they supported you. So then how was it growing up then, before you? So you've had the operation? I haven't any, like.

Oh, you mean like surgery?

Plastic surgery?

Surgery.

Plastic surgeries and stuff like that. But.

Before that, like, growing up, like, high school, middle school, like, what?

I was very androgynous. You know, people that I grew up with, they obviously knew, but people that weren't from our circle, they never knew. I was just another girl. I had long, blonde, curly hair, and I was always hanging out with the girls. You know, it was before they all developed. So, you know, we were all just girlfriends as far as anybody else was concerned.

So they didn't even know people that.

Were outside of our circle? No.

Okay.

I mean, and in our circle, you know, again, we come from a very, you know, well known family, so, I mean, I was very popular. I was a violinist and in gymnastics and swimming and things like that. So, I mean, I had a lot of friends and I had a great upbringing, so I was lucky.

Good. I'm so glad to hear that. You just hear you. And my parents are like, really? What are you doing for a living? They're fine. They're supportive now. Like, as long as you're paying your bills, we're okay. But my mom for a long time was like, what's your plan B? You're gonna talk about sex for a living? Really? So what about your, like, first sexual experience, what was that like?

It was awful.

Really?

Oh, gosh. I was dating a much older guy and I mean, I had. We had been, you know, communicating and talking and I was 17 and he was 32, was an attorney in Chicago and we had a long, you know, year of dating and you know, he went. Obviously had to wait till I was adult enough.

Right.

And I don't know, I just expected more of the romance and, you know, the pleasure in him teaching me in a way, you know, sexualized and, you know, selfless way. And it was just kind of like he was. Had been waiting for so long. It was just all about him and he didn't really take the time to teach me things. And it was just. It didn't feel like I thought it was gonna feel right.

It never does. No, I know. I just want to tell people because, you know, I was loveline here in the studio after you were calling. I'm like, it's okay. The first experience, but for you. So. Okay, so tell me about your. Your. So you take hormones, you had.

I just started hormone therapy about a year ago.

Okay, so up until this point you haven't. No.

My family and I used to date an attorney, endocrinologist and doctor from ucla. And you know, they were so underdeveloped, the technology and the medicine for a lot of hormone therapy. And he wanted to really know, you know, how it worked and what was going on before I started using them. So we found a great endocrinologist here in Los Angeles. I finally trusted someone to start them.

Okay, great. So then now. Okay, so you still have a penis though.

I do, yes.

That's your big on your website? 10 inches. We already discussed it. Which is friggin amazing. So do you find so the kind of men that you date? So explain to me about your sexual experiences then. So. But they're straight men, Mad.

Yes, of course.

Okay, so how do you do? Tell me about how they interact with your penis.

I have. Well, I've been in three relationships. The first, committed.

Like you're monogamous? Yeah, yeah.

That was my entire adult life. The first relationship until I was 18. And then when I was 20, I was actually married and I was with him for about four years. And my ex fiance, I was with him for about three years. So all my adult life I've been, you know, mainly with these three gentlemen.

Okay.

And they had never been with a transsexual girl before. They just fell in love with my personality and me.

And did they know do they know right when they meet you or does it come up later?

Well, no, no, I mean they obviously knew. Like my ex had found out all about my ex husband found out all about my, my beginning of my career at that point.

Right, because you started your career pretty. How old were you when you started? 19. I did. So then how can you explain it? Can you break it down to people who don't? Because people are, I always get questions. They're like, I don't understand it. Like, you know, like, how are these men not gay? Like how, how does it work?

Break it down.

O like masculinity. They want, you know, muscular, hot, hairy, you know, jock type of guy. That's the fantasy. Straight men love femininity, curves, you know, breasts, beautiful, you know, ass and you know, soft skin. Thank you.

We're gonna, we have a little video on the website, check this out too.

But you know, transsexual women are generally over sexualized. So we appeal to the natural instinct in men.

Right.

Because you're so sexuality and reading like you know, larger hips and bigger butts and you know, bigger breasts and we're overly feminine. So they're, I mean obviously any straight man is going to be attracted to that by their visual, you know, senses.

Exactly.

And whether they eventually be comfortable enough to, you know, delve into that world in the front, they generally, you know.

So tell me, but I want to hear about that. Those experiences, like when you say you had sex with them, like how does your penis come into play?

With my ex husband, it took quite a while before he, you know, decided to, he wanted to please me that way. Like he felt like he was being selfish after a long period of time. And I was like, well, I don't need that. You know, it's like I get pleasure from being this submissive and being.

So you are, you are more submissive, you know, filming.

No filming. I'm actually always a dominant aggressor in the sex but in real life I'm actually quite submissive and require a dominant partner.

Right. But if they're not playing with your penis, then how do you orgasms?

Of course you can have, you know, anal orgasms through the process.

Of course. So it's mostly like anally. How about breasts?

Oh, of course. I love breasts.

Play breast orgasms though.

I don't know if I want one.

Breast orgasm, but I want one so bad. The second most common kind of orgasm. I'm like, really? Like, who's having them? I want one. I'm like, I think I just need to spend some time with somebody. Just, like, play with my breasts for, like, a month and, like, let's get down to this. So. So usually it's. So it's usually anally. About that, like. Right. A lot of.

A lot of women, I enjoy that. I enjoy that actually a lot more because I can have multiple orgasms that way versus, you know, ejaculating through the penis. And once you do that, it's kind of like, oh, I want to sleep.

Exactly. Right. We're so lucky. I mean, so. But. So. Okay, so tell me about. How is your sex different than you think than other women? I mean, obviously you have anal sex primarily, but how else would you describe that you think that it's. It's different?

I don't know if it'd really be considered different beyond, you know, the penis play. I mean, I'm every bit of a woman sexually in bed. You know, I'm very into the seduction and, you know, I top from the bottom, as they call it, where even though, you know, he's the man and he's, you know, taking me, I'm the one that's in charge and, you know, handling the situation. And of course, I love being ravaged and just taken wild. Right.

Why don't they know this?

So many men just grab my hair, choke me, bend me over and just take it.

Like, choke me, grab my hair. I mean, and I'm not saying this is a green light for everyone, but there's typically many women I talk to want that. And I think men, I don't know. I was in San Francisco for. I just moved here. I think they're afraid. Everyone's like, oh, every man in San Francisco checked his balls at the Golden Gate Bridge. Because seriously, they're, like, so passive. A lot of them, or just like, I don't want to. I don't want to. I want to be very PC about it. It's like, no, just pull her hair. It's okay. She can still be a feminist, and you can still dominate. Not that it's for every woman, but many women.

I love it.

I know. So right now, are you dating anyone?

I have been dating a few different gentlemen recently.

Okay.

But nothing, you know, committed or serious yet. So taking my time out.

I mean, I'm sure you meet so many.

I have a beautiful team of men. Oh, my God.

Yeah, me too. That's how I like it.

I'm learning, you know, I've always been in committed relationships. So this is, like, my first time being completely free and just really getting the Chance to know people much better before just jumping into.

That's exactly. That's so smart. Because you're in your 20s, right? I mean, that's.

Yeah. And my whole. Don't relate. My whole adult life, I've been a wife or a fiance.

So it's good to do that.

I've never done that.

I'm so happy about that. I'm like, you know, and I did that too. I used to. I was a serial monogamist all through my 20s. And I kind of regret it because I think, first of all, no one should get married before they're 30. I think that you should take the time, figure out who you are, what you like. We all jump into relationships. I think that's what we're like told socialize to do. But it's a really good time to like. I always hear people, they're like, I'm in love. Oh, my God, my heart is so broken. How am I ever recover? We've been together three and a half years. I'm 18. I'm like, you're 18?

You're young.

I mean, it's still hard though.

It is hard.

You become attached.

Totally. You become attached a lot of times to your first love. So the answer is you're dating now and having fun. So how did you get into the porn industry? Oh, wow.

Okay. Well, I was working a corporate job at Verizon Wireless Corporation.

Oh, you were? Okay.

I was going to nursing school.

I mean, I was really going with like a straight edge life plan. And I ended up meeting a bunch of transsexual girlfriends for the first time. I had never met any other girls like myself until I was 18. And I ended up meeting these group of girls and they were living, you know, the fun life and they were dating all these boys and they were traveling and, you know, all these things. They kind of introduced me to it and I'm very research oriented. So I started looking up the market and, you know, where the money comes in to play and what kind of people are involved or interested in girls like me. So I really started doing some research and I ended up putting a profile up on an adult dating site. And I was the most looked at girl out of like 10 around the world.

Oh, my God.

And so I wanted to know which.

Website can you say?

I'm not gonna say, but I don't know.

Got it. No, I got it. Totally. I'm so down with that.

And the number one girl. So I'm like, well, I want to know why you're number one. You know, trace me up. What's up with you? And she was a porn star. And so I ended up messaging her and, you know, for some advice and things like that. And she got back to me and gave me her number. And I called her, of course, naturally. And she just hung up on me. And so I wrote her an email. I was like, you know What? I'm only 18 years old at the time. I was only 18. And I'm pretty sure you're coming to the end of your life cycle in this industry, so it's okay that you hung up on me, because I'm going to be number one.

Exactly.

And you're not going to exist after a while. And then I got a call or email back, and it was from her manager, her pimp. Her manager saying, I'm sorry. You've been talking to me the whole time. She wasn't prepared for your phone call. I'm so sorry. I should have told you. And they invited me out to Los Angeles. They made a bunch of appointments with different studios for me to meet people, and I kind of networked. And then I came back a week later and shot my first films.

Wow.

And I was 19 at that time.

Oh, my God. And how was that for you? The first film? What was it like? What was the first film?

I was so freaked out. I'm sure I was at this giant mansion in Hollywood. And, you know, I go there, there's like a full production team and hair and makeup and, you know, other models there. And I'm just like, what did I get myself into? Because I thought I was just shooting pictorial or for the project. No, they didn't tell me that. I was. They were like, no, you don't have to do video if you don't want to. We're gonna use you for pictorials and stuff like that and kind of announce that you're up and coming. And they met me in person. They're like, oh, my God. You have to star in this film. We're gonna give you XYZ amount of money. We're offering you two scenes. You know, you're gonna be the star of this film. And, you know, it was a lot of money, so I took it and I was like, fine, I'll do it. And I wasn't prepared to shoot a movie, but I just got ready and I just went out there and there was like, the makeup artist and the camera guy and the assistant and the model and the production, you know, the people. And I was just like, okay. But as soon as the Camera came on and the lights were on. My head just clicked. The lights, camera, action. And became a different character. Like, I just went into it and.

Just who are you having sex with? Except explain to me that first sex scene you did.

Oh, God. Well, he was. He ended up, you know, he was this beautiful, you know, big, you know, very generously endowed blonde guy. And then they're like, okay, he's gonna be the bottom. And I was like, what? It didn't make sense to me in my mind because, you know, in my mind, I'm this little, tiny, you know, girl. Like, why would I be the top?

Exactly.

But then I ended up topping him, and it wasn't my thing at all. But I ended up getting typecast, of course, in anything you do in entertainment as this dominant top because of my first.

So were your penises in play or was it all.

Yeah, I topped him.

Okay. Right. So you. Okay, you had anal sex with him?

Yeah, I mean, I was the aggressor. I was like, this is weird because I never. I'd never done that with a guy before.

Right. And it was the first time it was on film.

Yeah, I never did that with a guy before.

That's crazy. I'm stressed.

I was just thinking, what is going on? Why am I, you know. Right.

They just missed him.

This is weird, but okay, I'll do it.

Right. And then you did it. And then you got to get. Then after that, you.

It became just a natural thing. Every film I did, so all your.

Films, that is what you.

Most of them. I was always just a top until I was with my ex partner who's also a porn star. And then I was a bottom for him because it was natural for us.

And did you learn to enjoy it? Do you enjoy it or just work topping? Yeah.

I mean, I guess there's some kind of enjoyment regardless if it's a physical. Physical actual release.

Right.

Like, you'll get some kind of enjoyment from it, but it's not my natural place.

Right. So in your relationships, you're like, I've.

Always been the bottom of the relationships.

Okay, got it. So what about. What were some of the challenges that you faced in being true to yourself and your gender identity? Like, just like growing up and in the film industry and everything, like, what you do. What are, like, the biggest challenges you think? Do you think people are, like, misinformation? Do you get treated differently?

You know, I have been very lucky. I mean, I'm very well spoken, I think. And you are a businesswoman.

Yeah. Thank you so Hard to be both.

So, I mean, being able to come into any situation, I mean, I've done. When I did an interview with Sway from Sway in the Morning, he just interviewed Barack Obama. And then here I come onto the studio and I made him so nervous. And I got a chance to kind of educate the hip hop community where, you know, they would have normally been, like, really freaked out by it. But the funny part was they didn't tell. Tell the team that I was a transsexual because they wanted them to see how the men would react to me. And they were all over me and just so sexually talking and how beautiful she is, and I would do anything for her. And then later on in the show, they told her that I was a ts. And it was a way to show people that, like, you can use the idea of stigma just by the idea of it to have, you know, hate for it or whatever. But this group of, like, rappers and, you know, black community guys are just like, all about it. And then, you know, I got the chance to kind of educate and talk and just, you know, open up their mind. So I've been really lucky that I get to do so many incredible shows and media that I've been able to kind of just walk in and kind of throw away some of the stigmas that are catching.

So I'm curious, though. So you must get hit on by, like, men, like, wherever you go. You probably can't even leave your house.

I'm very shy. Right, you're shy.

But what happens when a guy that you're interested in, like, how soon do you bring up the fact that you are.

Oh, immediately, because I'm not gonna waste my time.

So you're like, hey, like in five minutes.

You know what?

If you're trying.

If some. I'm usually. I usually never give any guy my number. They meet me out in public and try to, you know, ask my number, hit on me. I'm just kinda like, believe me, honey, I'm not your kind of girl. And then there's beautiful girls over there, go away. And that usually makes them want me more.

Of course, whenever they reject a guy, they're like, all over the place.

They end up calling me all over the place. And I'm just like, you know what? I'm a transsexual girl.

So just.

Would you just get on my face, please? And then they're like, well, that's interesting. I never would have thought that. And they want to sit down with me. And then we end up changing numbers and then they End up going, you know, falling in love with my personality.

And then so then sometimes they do, then they.

Most of the time. I've never had a guy that's amazing.

They come around to it. But when you're getting down them with these guys and they've never, they're straight and they've never like been with like a lot of guys are freaked out. Like, there's always this one, I would say, like, I think it was George Carlin. It was like the comedian, you know, Daisy Gaz is like one dick theory. He's like, men don't want another penis in the room, like even important. So how do they deal with it?

They've never, I mean, I'm obviously, you know, conscious of the idea that I want to really express my femininity more when I'm with a guy who's never been with someone like myself. So it's not like I'm, you know, sitting there holding myself in all my glory. I'm very submissive. I probably hide it more than I, you know, I'm not getting pleasure from that. I want to like, get them comfortable and get them to really just enjoy me as a woman.

Amazing.

And as time goes on, you know, they usually get very curious and comfortable enough that they feel like, well, you're my woman or you're my girl. So I want to be able to please you. And you know, even though I would never do this with anybody else, I'd like to do something to please you. So I mean, I just kind of let them get used to it at their own pace.

Right. I think that's great that you've had. So it sounds like you've had really positive experiences. Like you haven't really had any like horrible like that your family supported and all that stuff. And you had a really successful career. You're just like rising, you know. That's great. So what would be some advice then? Like sex. So you're a porn star. You also have a lot of sex. You've had sexual experiences with men. You're seductress. Like what would be your like top some of your sex tips for women? I'm always asking like, what is your best, like blowjob tips, what's your best whatever. Like, what are the secrets that you've learned that like if you had to pick like your top tips for. For pleasing men, like what do you think? What can we all learn from you?

Oh, gosh.

And we can talk about this.

This is kind of good. Like, it's so weird, but like I don't do. I don't. I don't deep throat, so I don't have the talent for it. And plus, I mean, I've obviously been deep throated many times. I don't think it feels that great.

Oh, interesting.

I mean, I'm sure it looks fantastic, but I don't think it's like that pleasurable. So I do a thing my girlfriend's called the Slip n slide.

Oh, this is my slip and slide. I love it.

So it's like, you know, you're working the head and the shaft as you're, you know, sucking it. So you're giving that double sensitivity while you're, you know, playing with it. That drives me.

Cause, you know, right.

And I watch their toes. I watch their feet to see how close they're getting or how much pleasure they're getting from it. And if they're getting ready to orgasm by the way, they crunch their toes up, tense their legs up. I always watch that.

Right. That's a really good tip. I'm just more focused. I'm like all the things.

And guys really like women to take a charge. So if you want something and you want him to do something, tell him or just do it. Make him do it.

Exactly.

He'll love it. They love being taken.

It's so true that so many men complain that women. I think one of the biggest complaints I hear from men is that women don't take the initiative enough in the bedroom. Look, I'm always doing it and I get it. They want. They want to be dominated. But sometimes, can you please just, like, take the initiative? Do something different. Tell me what the hell you are. Sit at his goddamn face.

Grab him and sit on his face.

Seriously, like, what guy's gonna kick you off his face if he says he's not the right person for you?

Absolutely not.

Right. So what is your favorite sex position then?

Oh, gosh. Huh. I really have a thing for, like, being dominated to the point of rape. Like, I have a thing for that.

So do you play, like, role playing?

I just like them to just be selfish and just take it. So usually I think that kind of ends with me with my face down, ass up in the air.

I like it. So how do you explain. It's like the rape fantasy is like the number one top fantasy for women. I think that men are really, like, sort of confused by it because they're like, well, I don't want to treat them in this way. So, like, I won't always, like, look into that, like, what it is About. I know, right? Just being like dominated and taken and just being selfish.

It's self primal.

That's the thing. It is the most primal thing. It's not like they call it rape, which I hate.

Right.

More like just being super dominated and just like doing, you know what, you know what, what feels good and communicating. Like, I think especially in your thing. I always say communication is a lubrication. And so I feel like, right, you.

Gotta like, you have to talk about what you want and what they want so that you please each other.

Exactly. And like anyone in a relationship right now, and this happens all the time, people. Like, I've been my part where I get emails 5, 10, 15 years, we. And I'm like, okay, well what is your partner? Like, what's her biggest fantasy or what is his? But we've never talked about it.

We just don't talk about it. That's so weird.

I know it's. To us, it's weird, but it's like so normal. Like, I think also people are together for a while and they don't even understand how to broach the subject. I tried to say it's like better like sooner than later. Just like talk about, you know, what you need.

I think the sexuality is probably the best part of being in a committed relationship because you get to explore, you know, your fantasies with trust.

Exactly.

You know, that's the biggest thing.

And if you're not having good sex and like, what's the point in life? I know. I just spoke on a panel expose yesterday and I was just like, hello, we're all like. It was a sex education panel. It was about retail stores and also how they can be better at sex education. I was like, hello, like, we're all working in sex. There's. People have so many problems with sex. Like, why can't we all, you know, why can't there be more sex information out there? Because I don't think that there's a lot of great sex information. Actually, I was going to talk to you about sex toys. I know you have your own sex toy line. Okay. And I was going about your, like, what's your, what's your favorite sex toy? Okay. Besides what you talk about your own line, but then also what your experience has been with sex toys in the bedroom and what you like.

I actually never really used toys. I actually was forbaden from using toys on myself in my previous relationship. Only as long as I was on camera, like doing like live cam shows like that, and he was home, I could use them. But when he was never around. I was not allowed to use them.

He told you you weren't allowed?

Absolutely.

Were you okay with that? That he was okay.

He was very dominant, so I listened to that.

But you liked that?

I did. In his way, it was a bit of insecurity because he wanted to know that no one had been in there. No one has touched his property or his thing.

So what about in film stuff? Because. Do you like anal toys?

My favorite thing from my line itself is the lube. Because I mean, obviously being in porn, I use tons of different lubes. The thing that they. That's actually the only thing I really like out of my whole line. I mean, they have grandiose toys, like really intricate things. My favorite product ended up being the lube because water based lubes usually end up getting sticky. And oil based lubes, I feel like you kind of lose that grip and that traction when you're having sex if you use an oil based lube. So you kind of lose the power and the control with your essential organ using an oil based lube. So they made a water based lube or like gel like product that never dried out and got sticky and wasn't oil based. So it was incredible for masturbation.

That's incredible.

This is like the best.

How do people find it?

Me and Isabella's big secret collection. Pet dreams.

Yeah. Well, we were on the panel yesterday. One of my sponsors is good vibes. Everyone hears me talk about sexwithemily.com goodvibes. If you want to check them out, use coupon code Emily. You get 15% off. But yeah, you make sure you go to sex with.

They have great selection of toys. They have amazing, you know, everything that I love. Like I've been talking about this Jeju Mimi. They have these cock rings that are amazing. The Jeju Mio. I don't know if you know Jae Joo the brand. They make really fun toys. And it's funny because I've been talking on the show and like their sales have just skyrocketed. Because I just love for a lot of women who need clitoral stimulation during sex, I love like the Mimi. But then also they have this really cool cock ring that like Mi miyo that vibrates too.

I do like those.

You do?

I think I do feel great. I got a bunch of them like from screaming 01. Cause I did a party for their bike friends.

I used to work with Screaming01 and.

He used to send me like all. They gave me like a big giant bag of them. So me and my ex used to actually use them.

Aren't they?

Feels great.

I know. And people just think that the vibration is only for women that men don't. But it feels really good, right? They got your penis, balls, everything. So go buy a cock ring today. Do whatever and go to. Yeah, sexliving.com goodvibes coupon code. Emily, do that now. And check out your lube too. And so what is going on? What's your next. Are you working on a film right now?

I actually retired from filming about a year ago.

Oh, you did? So now what's it all about?

Well, actually, your website. Nobody actually knew that I was retired from filming for other companies for the whole year because I'd done so much media. My publicist always keeps me busy. I was doing parties, amazing public posting award shows like that. So nobody actually knew that I would stop filming DVDs. But probably like a couple of months ago, we did some. Really a great miniseries for my website. And it was my hardcore kind of comeback after like a year on my site. So, yeah, I keep my site active, but I stopped filming for other companies.

Take all the money yourself, right?

Why would I keep making. Ten years later, still making money off DVDs? A deal.

I know they paid you like five bucks.

Come on, right?

You're a business woman too. So, you know, so. So can you describe to me one of your best sexual experiences that you've ever had? And, like, why was it so great? I know that's hard.

Maybe this was. This is the beginning of the relationship with one of my previous partners. And we were still gutting each other's bodies. And I remember he was just kind of like, really, like, he would always just be in heat for me. It didn't matter, like, what was going on. He just wanted to take me wherever it was. Like, I would even. Sometimes it'd be so much sex that I would, like, run from him and try to, like, lock my bedroom door. He'd be sitting there with a screwdriver, laughing, oh, my God. Taking the thing off the thing, just saying, I'm gonna get you. Just wait.

But you like that. That's. Oh, yeah, right.

He's like, I'm gonna get you. You ran from me, so now it's gonna be worse than. And I remember he came in the room and he, like, literally took off the thing off the hinges and he's laughing like, oh, you're dead meat now. And he had like. I was sitting in this chair, like, please, no, you don't know. And I was sitting In a certain position in a chair like this. And he kind of just hiked my leg up and went in and his cock kind of curved up so it hit the prostate like perfectly. And as he was just taking me wildly, I orgasmed and ejaculated on my own, like, not even touching myself. And he was just sitting there just so, like in awe. Like he was so powerful in his mind at that moment that he made me come inside and out. And I was just a puddle of just shaking. And I was so shocked. Like, what just happened?

Oh my God, that's amazing because you're talking about the foreplay, the buildup, the anticipation, which is what's missing so much, I think, from people's sex lives, especially people in long term relationships. Like, okay, we've got five minutes, we gotta do it. It's like that's why people aren't having great sex, because they're not. And I know it's hard and I.

Know it's hard, but you can tease all day.

I always say foreplay all day, look.

At each other with little looks. Foreplay all day, walking through.

Exactly.

Any little thing to let people know you're interested.

I always say foreplay starts after your last orgasm. Like, keep it going all the time. So what are some of your good foreplay tips?

I always love to tease. I just love all throughout the day, it doesn't matter if we're just sitting there having lunch with friends, something like that. I'll be under the table stroking his leg and reaching up towards his thigh or, you know, just kind of taunting throughout the day. It doesn't matter what we're doing. We could be, you know, having. Cooking a meal and I'll grab his ass as he's doing something and come up behind him and bite his neck and kiss him. Just little things all day long to have them always constantly revved up for you when you're ready. They've been ready all day, so they're at your command and like you bring.

Them to the brink and then they're totally, totally ready. I love that. That is a great one. So, okay, so what about. We gave some sex tips earlier? Like I asked you, what are some sex tips for Diaspora? For women or for men? Like, what would you say are some good things that, what do you think that men don't really know about pleasing women that you think that they should?

Again, it's just knowing that as we talked about since from the beginning, it's like knowing that women primarily love that. Dominating. Like even if she's the matriarch, and she's the head of the family in every other way, even. Right?

Even more so.

Even more so. Knowing that, like, sometimes you just want to submit completely and just taking control and taking that power, you know, it's thrilling, it's exciting. And men to know that women need that. We need to still feel it doesn't matter how. If you're an executive of a Fortune 500 company, you need to have that. That sexual submission and feeling like complete woman.

Okay. Have you ever been with a woman?

I have quite a few times, too.

Okay, good. So how is that for you?

It's just rent for me.

It just works for me.

I don't have that natural instinct to want to take a woman. You know what I mean? I'm not sexually attracted. I love beauty, I love femininity. But I don't have that thing that clicks in your mind that just makes you just want to do it.

Right. I got it. So do you have any good oral sex tips, though? Because you've had to do. I'm sure you're.

I've never done oral sex in a woman.

I've never done oral sex. Okay, so you just, like, played with women? Because I always. Men are always, like, hankering for more oral sex. Watch your best oral sex tip.

Just get in there.

What about bojob tips again, the slip and slide?

I love that.

And then what about, like, balls? Like, do you feel like that with different. Some men love them, some men don't.

I don't think, like, sucking them hard is the thing to do. I think it's really sensitive. Like licking them, squeezing slightly, fondling them. I think men love that. Especially during blow jobs, you know, right above, like, you know, you grab the cock and right underneath behind the balls, you press on that, and that kind of, like, stimulates. Yeah, it's like the taint or. Yeah, I think like playing and cupping and just kind of fondling. Then they love that.

But have you found out that. Have you found that some men don't want their balls touched?

Well, if they're afraid you're gonna hurt them.

Yeah, right, Right. But I feel like someone like, I'm just not into it. I'm always like.

I think. I think because somebody doesn't hurt them.

I think they have, like, post traumatic ball disorder.

Like, someone sucked them too hard and it hurts them.

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They are fresh.

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Thank you.

Have you ever used a massage candle? They're like, no, I haven't. Do you like massage?

I love massage.

Right. Who doesn't? I always say, like, massage is like, the gateway to intimacy. Like, a lot of couples, again, who aren't really connecting. It's just great to touch your partner.

Very true.

Take sex off the table and start to massage. And these candles are. They're aromatherapy and they're coconut oil and soybean oil. And they burn cooler than most candles. And they. It's not waxy. And you pour it on your lights warm and it's like this feels so delicious. And you can give your partner a massage.

So I have a little thank you, little treat for you that I'll try that out.

Yeah, you gotta try it out. It's fun. And I just let it in my house all day. Like, I just love it. And then I use it as a moisturizer in the morning, like on my body.

I love coconut oil. Right?

You're gonna love. Coconut oil is like the miracle thing.

It's great for lube. If you don't have any lube and you get organic coconut oil. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, you could use this lube. You can use it on the face. You could eat it put on my toast in the morning. I know. I love it. Your skin is so beautiful. Like, what's your. What do you do?

I just try to eat well, I guess.

Yeah. Are you healthy? Are you super healthy?

I'm not like really crazy, like, you know, like a lot of people out here, but I just like really good food, you know, so maybe it has something to do with it. I like to rest a lot.

Right. You get a lot of sleep, especially before tomorrow night, the expos Awards. I'm gonna be on the red carpet so I can be interviewing you. What are you gonna wear?

I can't say.

Oh, my God.

I used to be a stylist. I used to own a boutique in Charlotte.

Oh, you did?

We did.

Maybe you could style me. I need style. I've got all these things coming.

I love it.

I totally need help. So what would you say are some challenges in going back to the adult industry? And what, like, so you're. So you're still in the adult industry because you have your own website, media wise?

Yeah.

But what was like, your challenges that you faced when you were doing it, when you were doing porn?

I really didn't have any challenges because I always had a separate life outside of it. Like, I'd go to LA and film once a month, and then I just went back home and I was just a normal suburban girl. But I ended up having a stalker at one point. And that was extremely frightening to me because this person ended up stalking me for many years. To the point where I had to get a restraining order against this person.

After they saw you in the movies? In the film.

He ended up being A vice president of an electronics company and sold.

Oh, he's the vice president and sold me.

Right?

So is the guy you least expect.

He sold me, like, a bunch of products, and he had, you know, put, like, bugging stuff in these.

Oh, my God, that's crazy.

And he ended up going on all these, like, escort sites and review sites, and anywhere he could discredit me, he would say the most, you know, salacious, scandalous things. I mean, you can look at me and say, I'm just a little normal girl, right? I mean, he said some of the most awful things. And he tried to really derail my career from the beginning, just making everybody think that I was just a psychopath.

Because he was obsessed.

He was obsessed, and I wanted nothing to do with him. And I ended up having to go to court and sue this guy. And that ended up being, like.

It was going on for years. And I finally got, like, an emergency restraining order against this person. It lasted for a few years, and then he started his shit again.

Oh, my God. Can we do something about him? We put him in jail now.

I think it's that time. It's to the point now that that would be, like, the next thing that would. I mean, I have, like, legal documents. And he even went on a blog and said that he was gonna write because I'm working on a book soon. Oh, you are?

What's it about?

Well, you'll just have to see. I'll talk about it. I'll talk about it.

I know.

Lainey taught me that.

Lainey's amazing puppies.

But, yeah, we're working on finding the best team to put the book out with. But I had tweeted about the fact that I was going to be doing a book, and he went on some blog and said that he was, like, the expert on me, Isabella, who's going to launch his unofficial autobiography about me.

Like, I went on and I posted up the confidentiality agreement and the restraining order and all this stuff, like, so people would know. Enough. I'm not taking any more people to know that I'm a victim of something crazy.

Like, that was the biggest crazy, biggest thing. That's okay. Well, I'm glad you've had, like, really positive experience. I have one more question. I have a few more questions, but one more thing is, like, did you ever consider, because you are so feminine, like, getting the surgery, bottom surgery.

I would have had it done at 18 before I got into porn for sure.

So you would have. So do you still.

I had no desire for it. I Had.

No. So that's what I'm wondering. So. Because it's interesting because you have breasts, but. So if you weren't important. So now you think that's kind of like how you make your living? It's like.

Well, what ended up happening was I became very confident in my sexuality through porn. I was, you know, I was very raised traditionally, so in my mind, I was meant to be completely woman and, you know, be a wife. And that was the gist of it. But being in porn, kind of people glorified it and makes a big deal about it. Of course, I made a wonderful living off of being this unique kind of person that I am. But I would have done it at 18 as soon as I could have.

Okay, and now do you think you.

Oh, definitely. I'll definitely be doing it.

You think you will be doing it? Eventually, for sure. I mean, okay.

Something that I glorify. I mean, the porn world does, and it's a big deal for other people in my everyday life. It's not like I'm, you know, looking at myself like, oh, God, this is so great.

Right, Exactly. So you.

Something I don't utilize in my.

So it's a unique. Like, you have your own. Your own thing. That's your thing. I got it. So you would just definitely got it. I got it. Okay. And so. Okay, so I've got some emails from listeners. I have to answer every show. I'm thinking you can help me with some sex advice. Okay. So. Dear Emily, there's a girl I like for a while. We dated for a little bit, never had sex. And then she tells me, I feel we've been moving too fast and we should just be friends for now. Okay, that's fine with me. So we go out to dinner the next week, go back to her place, one thing leads to another, and we're about to have sex. When I said no, she got mad at me. Was I wrong for turning her down? Even though she's the one who wanted to take things slower. Thanks, Albert.

I think she was just trying to make him chase it.

Yeah.

And then once you saw that he was willing to come after and make the chase, then she was ready to say it because she probably had a bad experience where she felt like she trusted somebody and then she just gave herself. And then after, it was kind of like, eh. So she probably wanted him to chase it. Once she saw that he could.

Yeah, he would chase to shut him down.

And then she was gonna give it to him, and then she was pissed, like, wow. Okay. So you just. It backfired on her.

Exactly. So. Exactly. So I think just men are, like, so confused by women. Like, what the hell does this mean? She wanted it. She wanted it and then she didn't want it. So I don't think, Albert, that you were wrong for turning her down. I mean, that's how you felt in the moment. You did the right thing. Maybe she'll come back. Yeah, you're being respectful. And if you weren't ready for it. Nobody should ever have sex if you're not ready to have sex. I mean, there were times where I've been with someone, I thought, yeah, I'm totally into this person. And at the last minute, I'm like, oh, oh, I'm actually not.

I'm totally turned off.

Like, you know what happens sometimes you're into someone and then you're like, this happened to me recently. Well, okay.

I came to recently.

Me too. I gotta change the time. It was a while ago. I was dating someone, and then all of a sudden I was like, oh, my God, I'm not into it all. Like, it shut down. It's almost like I don't know what happened. And it's like, we all have the right to say no. Like, no does not mean yes. Whatever. So.

Okay.

So, Emily. Dear Emily, I downloaded your Kaggle Camp app after listening to your podcast. I can't praise it enough. Long story short, I'll tell you what. My app, after separation and divorce. It had been a while since I had sex. I'm in a new relationship now, and I feel like my performance and endurance are much better. I give all the credit to your Kegel Camp. Thanks, Tim. So I have an iPhone app called Kegel Camp and, you know, Kaggle exercises, men and women. I believe it was for women.

I kind of do it anally, too. I always like sitting right.

People do it. They're like, oh, you can do it at a traffic light, but no one remembers. So it's actually an app. It pops up on your phone every day and it'll say, like, time for Kegel Camp. And then it's five minutes a day as my voice walks you through it. And people, like, email me. Actually, more men than women. And they're like, I can stay harder, longer. They're like. They're like, when I ejaculate, like, it shoots across the room like, I was 20 again. And women are having stronger orgasms. So I love it because I just made the app and I'm like, we'll see what happens, you know? But people really like it. So. Okay, so. Hello, Emily. I have a question for you. I'm not one to brag, but I do have an amazing partner when it comes to sex. But I do have one problem. When he is giving me oral, he hits my clitoris with his tongue. That makes me crazy, but for some reason, I don't always come. And then he tells me just to just do it. This has happened on other occasions. And I was wondering if it's possible to think about it too much so that I don't cum, knowing that I haven't before. And in my brain, I concentrate too much on that that it doesn't happen. It's not a problem of not feeling amazing, but I can't quite figure out the problem. I have no problem having multiple orgasms. We're having sex, and I do masturbate, and I can't. And I find I can't always make myself come either. But I don't have a problem with vibrators. Just touching myself. Any advice or tips? We appreciate it. Thank you. So she feels uncomfortable with her clitoris, but she can have orgasms other ways. I do think your brain is a larger sex organ. And a lot of times women have a hard time having orgasms. We get into our mind, like, is it gonna happen? I hope it happens. Is this gonna happen this time? And then we stop ourselves.

Well, it sounds like he's pressuring her because he wants to feel like he's succeeding in pleasuring her. So he's like, just show me that I'm doing it.

Exactly.

And the pressure of him wanting to see the result of his work is probably making her. Turning her off.

And guys are like, just do it. I hate that one. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. You have no idea where I'm at right now, really. It's time for you to leave. Give me a glass of water, because we're starting over. You're leaving my house because. Yeah, when guys say that, I think it's confusing. But she has multiple orgasms. Lawrence, I think you're totally fine. And maybe just oral sex is not the way that you're going to orgasm. And I do think again for sex. One of the biggest tapes I give people is just like, you have to take your mind out of it. I mean, you have to get into your body. Do you ever find sometimes that you are in your mind, Like, I think I might do list, the phone's ringing, whatever. And that you have to just. It's almost like meditation. Like, whatever. You kind of just start, like, focusing on what's your focus on your body.

If the person you're with can't take your mind off of everything else. And he's doing something wrong.

Exactly. But some people like me, even I've been with good people, and I'm still. Still in my mind. I have to work at it. You're lucky.

You just go there once he's grabbing me and I know that we're into it and we're doing it. It's all about that moment. Like, I'm not thinking about anything else until probably after.

Right. So that's good because a lot of people do have, like, all this brain stuff and their minds, and I do that too. But I've had to learn. And I wasn't always easily orgasmic, but I found, like, when that happens, like, you just have to, like, get back into your body and.

Right.

Okay. So, Mia Isabella, you're amazing. Thank you so much for being on the show. Is there anything else that we need to know about you that's coming up that people can check out your site or, like, fun things that you won't. That I know you won't talk about your book and stuff like that, which is fine. But you will come back on the show?

I will. We're gonna be doing a book. I signed a television show deal about a year ago, so hopefully we'll start shooting that soon.

A television like a Macy reality. A reality about your life. Few different things.

So it's gonna be exciting.

I know it's hard to talk about it. I know.

And my team was just talking to me the other night about really getting me involved overseas with, you know, selling products, ad campaigns, being a spokesmodel for other, you know, mainstream commercialized things. So hopefully we'll get you where you.

Don'T just think that this is what we talked about yesterday, that the sex industry is changing, that there are more mainstream people who are interested. Thank God. Like, I was talking, actually my keynote, I was like, I only will work with products that I believe in. Like, I was having such a hard time. My keynote. Avnot. I was like, how do you make money in this industry? Not a porn star. It's funny because people coming up to me, they're like, are you nominated for something? I'm not a porn star. I should have been a porn star. But no, but I think that it is changing and that people are looking to advertise and to have people.

Especially overseas.

Especially overseas.

I think with the huge fan base that I have overseas and them not being a serviced market, I Think my publicist and the people that we're going to work with, they're absolutely right. There's so many different kinds of products, different things that I can be involved with over in different countries. I think that'd be a wonderful way to kind of broaden my career. And you know, the book and the TV show, everything.

You feel so much. Congratulations. Some love. So but you're having some. But you. So you're ready to get back into the relationship.

I mean, I'm just, I'm a kind of comedic kind of girl. I think the best of my sexuality comes out when I have ultimate trust with someone.

Exactly.

So that's kind of where it is.

Hard to kind of have to find the.

I don't give it myself completely unless I'm really, you know, committed.

So you're kind of going in that direction now. Okay, but I think like I said, everyone have fun for a while and then see when you're. Yeah, I learned that I wasn't. And then how about your social. So your mia-isabella.com which you get on our website. What about Twitter?

Twitter is the Mia Isabella. M I A Isabella. The Mia Isabella.

Because there's no other.

Right. Facebook, the same, the Mia Isabella and you know, go to the website, check out my tweets and you know, get to know me a little bit. Good, Great.

Well, it's. Thank you so much for sharing. Thank you. People are just like been very confused about things and I just think you have cleared it all up. Thank you. Thanks everyone for listening to Sex with Emily. Feminine, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Sex with Emily. And was it good for you? Email me feedbackexwithemily.com.

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