Interview - Dr Mohana Kumari Ft Eva Stolk - 20 jaar jubileum

Interview with Dr. Mohana Kumari (originally from Kerala, South India) about her eight-generation family tradition of Ayurvedic practice and her work bringing traditional Ayurvedic rituals, plant knowledge and community practices to the Europa Ayurvedic Centrum in the Netherlands. Topics covered include ritual diagnosis/healing using "kalam" and spirit-trance practices, the spiritual offering practice "tarpan" for gardens, conservation/planting philosophy, a 20-herb immune-support formulation called "krimishatru", and Dr. Kumari's wish to teach authentic preparation methods (oils, kashayam, powders) so Ayurveda can strengthen prevention and immunity.
Questions this video answers
Kerala, South India.
Eight generations.
About 30 years ago (she says she 'came 30 years before' to Holland).
Twenty herbs.
Chapters
So can you tell us something about your background? Because you come from India where Ayurveda has its origin.
Yes, I come from Kerala, South India. We have very old tradition about many, many medicines together. And we don't separate as Ayurveda or Sita or tribal medicine because the base is same.
Okay.
And very ancient and very traditional.
Very beautiful.
Yeah. We are from a country of martial art and it was very common till the Europeans start ruling us. They were afraid of this art form and that is with this traditional Ayurveda, Sita, tribal art and tribal medicine.
Okay, very nice. And I heard also you are a doctor, but you are not the only one in your family that's the doctor in university.
I'm the only one went.
Okay.
Others are all traditional Vaidyas and doctors. Because we don't need to go to university if you really want to continue the treatment or help others. Because the knowledge is important.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
So actually in your family you told there are eight generations of Ayurvedic doctors and they actually learn it from their parents every day.
And they were known as vaidyas.
Vaityas.
Yeah.
Okay. And what does vaityas mean?
Vaidyas means who is knowing the Vidya or education of these medicines.
Very beautiful. Yes. Nice. And is there some memory that you have that you still have from the last 20 years that you're now in Holland and you have this Europa Ayurvedic centrum with Wieganes Peters, your son and your husband, Cornelis Paters? Is there some memory that you can really go back to like it was yesterday?
Actually, I came 30 years before in Holland and Holland was not new for me, even though I visited only 30 years before. We have an ICCD International center there. Many foreigners already visiting for art and Ayurveda.
So in India you already had a center and many people out of Europe were coming there. Out of Holland also.
Yeah. So they invited me to come to the Tropical Institute to give lecture and to give her shop especially. My work was with Kalam. Kalam was that time very fascinated and very new.
Yes. Maybe also you can explain something about this Kalam, what it is, because I think many of us don't know.
Yeah. Kalam is playground, you have to say, on earth. Because it is not taking us very serious, because it is a very serious play between the gods and goddesses and the human beings. So when they have problems, they are coming to the traditional knowledge. People to make this column.
Okay.
Yeah. In that column you can see all the problems of the patients okay.
So it's actually like a ceremony. The patients go to you with a question, with a problem they have. And then through this ceremony you can see all the problems and stuff.
Stuff.
What's making their complaints.
Actually I have to be in between the clients and the gods. So they never come straight to the clients because it's shocking for them.
Yeah, I can imagine that later they.
Can feel the energy and close connection. But important thing is the energy has to be invited and the energy has to say what they can do for the client. Sometime they don't do 100% good result, then you have to say 50% only you get better. Because that was from the last life. Bad things and bad karmas. But most of the time you can see they are hundred percent healing.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, that's very beautiful. So you ask actually in a column like that, you ask the gods if they can help with the energy from that person to heal itself.
Yes. Because you have to know each God has connection with a group of herbs. Yes. Through the herb and the power of the herbs, only they can come on the earth. So it is a very deep level knowledge to understand how you must learn the important things. To get sun, for example, some people get very bad sun influence of their life. But sun also coming under the category of a group of medicines. Natural medicines. Yeah.
Okay.
But at the same time, you have to use only five fundamental colors.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah. Also connected with five elements. Yeah. So it is very natural and so much connected with the nature. It's never going away from the nature. Even the tribes, they have dance for trance to heal others. But then they forget about their small life or everything. They appear as real gods and goddesses.
So they forget actually in that trance dance that they are human and they really become that goddess that they dance.
So that goddess or God will talk with the clients, ask and show so much kindness and say, yeah, this is okay. This year you get much better and next year I come again to search your conditions, financial condition, even. They say health, wealth, everything you can talk. So it is really connected with, we say biluchapada. It is a religion of biluchapada. Viluchapada means light keeper.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah. Through the light you are coming out. You means the higher spirit. So that is very fascinating for the ancient people. Still now many people cannot.
So this is one of the things that you do in this center. You give clients this treatment with columns.
Yeah. And also we invite the Kani tribes. They have also so many chanting way of healing and the Tayam people. Tayam doing people. They are dancing with the dress of God. So nobody can stop because people want this. So that fascinated people when they were in India with us.
So you really took a bit of India and the knowledge, the ancient knowledge you took to Holland to spread everywhere with your columns, but also with the garden you have and with all the herbs. So maybe you can tell something about the garden. Because every single day I see you watering everything. Even though everything gets water, you're still doing it.
That is actually not watering. In our ancient spiritual way, we say tarpan. Tarpan. Tarpan means with water you can offer God. That I'm doing all the time. Spray with. Spraying with hand and with. Yeah, that is one way of connecting. Yeah, yeah.
So that's why they grow so beautifully and really big sometimes here imaginable, unimaginably big sometimes.
Yes.
And also one thing I learned that sometimes we walk through the grass and then you say, ah, wait, wait, wait. Here there is like an otomuli, one of the herbs that's really powerful or a tree growing or anything. And this is the knowledge you really took to Holland.
Because we learned when you eat a fruit, you have to plant immediately, at least one. If you can plant 10, that will be great for the nature. So that time everybody laughed because they thought there is no space for the people if you continue like that. So it was not fashion later. But you see, now every country is busy with 5 million. We want to plant 5 lakhs. We want to plant because you lost everything that respect, that love, that compassion, everything. When you lost, it's difficult to build again.
So this is really a way of thinking, of keeping the balance with nature.
Yes.
That we don't destroy everything.
No, no, no.
Think the world is ours, but actually we are from this world that Cornelius just said.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Mohana, what is your wish for Ayurveda for the coming 20 years?
20, 40? What is the uplifted stage of Ayurveda? I don't know. When you ask really Ayurveda, because we are coming from traditional Ayurveda family that is totally different than what you are seeing now in each and every center. We have to make our own hubs, we have to make our own oil, own Kashayam, own hundreds of pharmaceutical things. You have to learn. That was our custom. And then you don't do any mistake because when clients come, you know what you are doing for your clients. You know the herbs, you know the plants, you know how to make. So especially tailors with oil. Only you can help many, many people. For example, I have problem with very hot head and little fever. I asked Korvi, I need that oil what I made or your oil? He said, no, no, no, your oil you use. But after that. So like transfuse it with that oil. Yeah. So this I cannot say to anybody because you have to come forward to help learn and to participate. Then Ayurveda can be the biggest achievement in the world. There is no Covid like viruses or marbles. Because you are preparing your body. You are preparing your body with the nature's wonderful things.
Yeah, that's very beautiful.
Sad. So that is my prayer to continue my life. To bring this knowledge to more and more students and interested people.
So that they can spread themselves too. So we don't have to take from the world, but we can give more and give our help.
And they can for their own family. They can learn so many things.
Definitely. So I heard you made this combination of herbs for actually enhancing our own immune system. And it's called krimishatru, is that right?
Yes, very kind of. Krimishatru means in Ayurveda we say for viruses and for bacterias, parasites, all the same name as worms. Creamy. Small Creamy. Yeah.
Okay.
So I was waiting, waiting for the good result of western medicine for the COVID And it's not coming at all. So this year I started searching our own knowledge and knowledge about the growth of our plants. We say autumn molis, that is very ancient plants. One plant can heal many, many diseases. Yeah, that is why Guatemali came. But that kind of taundi guatemalis together when you can work as churnas or powder or capsule form, you can control all the viruses, bacterias and things because they don't destroy you anymore, because they don't like you. Yeah.
That'S a good way.
And your resistance, immunity and prevention is better than cure. So when your body is pure with your medicines, natural medicines, you don't need to worry about anything. Let it come as a small influenza or small fever or something. Don't worry about that because your body knows how to resist and to make the body with a lot of immunity.
That sounds very good.
Yeah.
So actually this creamy satru is full with 20 herbs that only by itself already has many, many, many healing properties.
And they are ready. And some of my clients start buying already. They find out very good result. So I can make more for the public and even for the world, if they are interested.
Very nice. So is there anything you would like to share with us.
I like to share with you and your people the cooperation and moreover interest and very much thinking that this nature is the important thing in your life. Whatever you make, whatever you discover. Nature is the basic mother. So don't forget that. So while you are still waiting for the injections and all kind of temporary things. For me it is temporary because next year they come with other virus. So it is never a solution. But your own solution is lying in the nature. Why don't you study that and add in the every medicine you can add that not only Ayurveda. Yeah. Allopathy or homeopathy. It is open for everybody. So I like a group of people who want to join with me for developing this Guatemalis which is disappearing all over the world. Yeah.
Sometimes we just see it like Omkraut.
No, no. Yeah. Even omkroud is. You cannot see because of the grass more in it. Or own crowd is also mixed with many own crowds. So this special plants searching and discovering. You need knowledged people to show and to tell and to write about that. Many writers are welcome. For me, they are very important to keep this knowledge.
Yeah, true. Thank you very much for your knowledge that you shared with us. And I think a lot of viewers, including me. It will be very helpful for all of us.
You are welcome.
Thank you.
Namaste.
Namaste.
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