Buy Land for $300 in Birmingham? Millionaire Investor Says Its The BEST Investment for 2025!

Like, the easiest way to negotiate is to be able to walk away.

The one who cares the least wins.

How were you able to build or build a house in 69 days? Like how?

It's way easier than fix and flipping, bro. I would never fix and flip another house. I'm over 50. Fix and flips. Once I learned how to build, I encourage everybody in real estate don't ever fix and flip another house again. You don't pay the contractor until they did the work. Show you pictures, show you pictures of past inspections, give you an invoice. The bank then goes and inspects and takes pictures and looks. They send an independent person out, and then they wire you the money and you pay your contractor. So it's foolproof, it's super safe. All right, so the top three benefits to build from the ground up, One, the cost. You're going to save so much money. Contractors are going to rob you hard. Money lenders are already going to rob you if that property doesn't sell. You got to take a loss. So all that work you did, you're going to take. You can potentially take a loss. The ability to lose is so much higher in fix and flips than it is in any other asset class in real estate. African Americans at one point own 14% of all affordable and available land in the United States. Today, we are down to 1.3% ownership of land. We didn't know how to protect it.

We.

We didn't know how to pass properties down. That's the foundation. Everything is on land. That's the resource. That was the real definition of freedom. Right. Like as slaves. When you're free, if you don't own land, you really not free. Freedom came with land ownership.

Welcome back to another episode. My name is Cody. This is motion and success. And I got my co host with me today.

Yes, Ayo. And we got a returning guest. Our first guest, actually.

First guess, the guest that definitely has been playing a huge role in impact, in our success, promotion and success. Charles Noonan. Definitely, as you guys heard, literally starting off the episode with some, some testimonials, some receipts, people, you know, taking their family to another level and definitely want to say appreciate you again, Charles. Yeah, you know, for sure. Absolutely. Coming back with another banger right before.

Yeah, the last one went. The last one went viral.

Yeah.

Right. Till today. People still commenting on the videos right.

Before Black History Month. Yeah, yeah. So this is a good one.

Yeah, bro, We. I don't even know what to say, bro. It's like a partnership, friendship, producer, like yeah, it's just a. It's just like a perfect combination from even doing the first podcast. Y' all asked me to do it. I said, bet, I'll be there. And y' all was like, yo, for real? I was like, yeah, I'm gonna come through. I'll be there.

At the time, we only had, like, what?

We didn't have any followers, bro. We didn't even have a post on YouTube yet.

I don't even think we had our.

First subscriber yet, bro. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Random times. But you gotta get started somewhere, though.

We caught traction quick, too. Yeah. Cause people was calling me, and I didn't know why. They were like, no. So New York City people was hitting me up, which is different. Cause I'll be post, like, where my. Where I do real estate at in different cities. But all my New York people was hitting me like, yo, see, yo, the jacket is tough. Yo, I saw this. I'm like, yo, where are y' all seeing me? Because, right. I ain't really do. I don't really do much in New York. And then they start sending me clips, and I said, oh, yo, yo, they on fire right now. Yeah. And then y' all just caught the formula, though. Y' all had the formula, and it's a matter of, like, putting it out there.

Yeah, right, right.

Definitely. But definitely, that was a lot of love pulled up on us. With no subscribers, 100 Instagram followers. Now, fast forward. Today we had 100K.

1200-001200-00120,001 followers.

Yeah. 120,000 followers.

Damn.

So it's crazy.

Damn.

But we definitely gotta jump into it. Cause I know we had about two podcasts with y'. Alls Both went crazy.

Yo, what's my grand. Yeah.

What was that?

The second one is probably, like, our top five. Is that like 9,000?

Yeah. Most views on YouTube. Yeah.

9,000 plus views on YouTube.

So, yeah. That's crazy, bro. Wait. Nah. Y' all biggest episode is 9000. No. No. Okay.

Definitely top three.

Yeah.

One of them is in that range of, like, 13. So it's not too far off.

Yeah. Yeah.

And I feel like the reason why it's like that is because when Charles pull up on a podcast, there's no gatekeeping. You know, it's game. People lie. Like, real game.

Here's the thing, though. Y' all see, like, this is really me. Yeah. So before we really locked in, y' all call me like, yo, pull up. I'm like, I'm there, right? And. And it Just went it. We just been going up from there, right? I just share, bro. Even when it comes down to like studio, if I could do anything to help somebody. Yeah. Whether I get paid or not, I'm going to just do it. And I feel like in today's time, in today's world, we have to do stuff like that. We got to be more together now than we ever been together, like, than we ever been. Because it's about to be a divide between like rich and poor. That's about to be like a huge separation between rich and poor. Like the rich are going to get richer, the poor are going to get poorer. And if we are going to grow, we, we got to get out of the mentality of doing it by ourselves. There's no way.

Yeah.

It's just not going to work because the, the other ethnicities that are growing, they doing it together. You could see people looking out for their people, putting their people in position, certain positions, like warranted or not. It's like, yo, that's my XYZ staff. That's this staff. That's my. And they just placing them in positions so they could grow, so we could fight it. We could do the same thing, right? And then fight it. But we can't just like be separate and solo no more because that will have us struggling.

Yeah, I agree. I totally agree. I totally agree. Cause like, I'm even seeing it now. Like if we look at the politics, it's the ultra rich, you know, right now and they're putting in rules for them, you know. So like you said, a great divide is coming, you know. You know, and that's why I appreciate what you do because, you know, I see you out here changing lives, helping people get generational wealth, helping them get land and things like that. So fast forward to today, you know, from the last time we interviewed you. I know a lot of progress has been made. You got a big conference coming up, a lot of things are going on, so you gotta break it down.

Yo, bro, man, you know, I really do be saying to myself, like one part of my mind be like, I'm a chill and just like just be low key. Travel, vacation.

Yeah.

But the other side is so impactful. I literally can't stop. Even when I say I'll be like, yo, I'm retired. I'm traveling for six months. I just, it just never happens.

I'm on podcast vacation. Yeah.

I did take a podcast vacation though. I did, man. Shout out to IO, bro. Cause I gotta say this too, man. My growth and success A lot of the real estate newsroom came from, like, when I locked in with you guys and y' all start helping me record make clips and things like that. And matter of fact, the one that said 3.6 million, IO did it.

Oh, yeah. That's crazy.

Yeah, the one with.

IO did that. He basically, anything over a million. I probably got like, five clips over a million. He did all of them, bro.

But it's really some great content you shooting with the real estate newsroom. Like, it's a real. Like, I definitely see it 20, 25 being a big year for the podcast because you bringing on a lot of great guests, great information is being spread.

So, yeah, it's been taken off. And my biggest was 20. I got one with the insurance Alexis. 25,000 views.

Yeah.

On one YouTube video.

One YouTube video. That was my biggest pay month, too. And, you know, it's hard to get, like, money from you. Like, I got paid thousands for a while because, you know, in YouTube studio, you see your money, right? It was in the thousands for a while. And I. I just feel like, man, when you look to bless people or share information or whatever, like, it's going to come back to you one way or the other. And I always say this, like, I was struggling with my podcast, and I didn't really have. I was struggling with producers, I was struggling with editors and everything. And then I was just like, wait a second, Yo, Cody, and I'll be in the studio. And they. They blasting through, right? Because I'm at 12, 000 followers. I mean, subscribers, y' all at how much? 28. Yeah, 28, 000. I'm like, I think they could help me. You know what I'm saying? So then I asked for the help, man. And that really, like, just re. Energized me to be creative, to build out more, right? So we built out bigger, better, strong. It just makes us collectively stronger. Right?

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So I saw, I got inspired by Herman. Herman Dulce. I'll say this too, man. I got to look at the camera. I got inspired by Herman Dolce. I seen him impact 500 people in one room. And I think he called it the blueprint summit.

Right? Right.

So I was like, wait a minute, I want to see if I could do something like that. So real estate been going crazy in Birmingham. Birmingham is like the hottest market in real estate. I got my builder's license in Birmingham as well. So I came up with this idea. Let me do a conference myself. Right. Let me just try to see if I could like pack something out. State, not stadium, but it's like, it's like a hall. Like it's downtown Philly. But it's something that he packed it out. Crazy. I was like, man, let me see if I could do that. And then I challenged myself to do it. And we have like 20 tickets left out of 500 right now.

He's been going in a crazy run for sure.

I've been going crazy for sure though.

Yeah, it's.

It's like I just say this like your, your blessings are going to come back to you.

Yep.

You just got to keep like, keep pushing forward, keep looking to impact people like, like the people we impact.

Right.

She's. This lady's husband died. She's on a legacy play for her husband. She got nine properties from the information I gave her. If I could just help people. I feel like the more I help people, the more like I get.

Favor in your journey coming up, did you have somebody like yourself that was guiding you through?

Never.

No.

No.

Not even like an indirect source?

Nah, bro. My mom's. I grew up single, single parent household. I think I was 15. My mom's gave me an alarm clock and a stick of deodorant. She said this alarm clock is to wake you up for when you find a job, you won't be late. And this deodorant is to get you to the first paycheck. And. And like, because she was like, yo, basically she had a conversation with me, like, I'm not gonna have a lot. Like something happened. She like, look, you getting older. I'm not going to be having a lot of money to be holding down a 15 year old who wants sneakers, clothes, all of this stuff. She like, you got to start getting it on your own. So I'm going to give you like these two things. And nobody in my family is rich. I didn't have a blueprint to follow. Nobody. You know, the Bronx was tough, bro. Yeah, there was nobody to follow. It was like rappers, drug dealers that came through blasting music too.

Those guys scam.

We have a lot of scammers, so. So here's the only scam. There's the only scam that was going on in the Bronx that I could remember growing up because, like, it was violent. You could get away with more violence. So, like, scamming wasn't cool. Like, scamming was dangerous more. Right, because you could get. You could get hurt. Scamming in the Bronx back then, like, you don't. This wasn't cameras everywhere. There wasn't police everywhere, right? So you really could hurt somebody and get away with it or do it in broad daylight. And like, nobody's going to say anything now there's cameras. You can get caught. So here's the first scam that I ever saw on Fordham Road, right?

I went to school out there in.

The Broadway with Roosevelt. Roosevelt.

I went to Monroe College.

Monroe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jerome. That's fortunate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A movie out there, man.

Yeah, so. So check it out. They used to sell like whatever new came out. Like, let's just say it's a. It's a PlayStation. Whatever new came out in a box. They would wrap that box in the plastic like it's new. Let's just say PlayStation 1, whatever, right? They take the PlayStation out, they put rocks, sand in the box. Rapid. They walking up and down Fordham Road, right? On Christmas time because it's packed with cars, right? Selling PlayStations, whatever. You. Whatever is new. They selling it in a box.

Yeah.

So you buy it, they give you the box. You're not gonna open it until you get. Because it's a gift for your kids, so you're not even gonna open it, bro. Oh, so it's just packed with trash, right?

Yeah.

Yo, they were selling. That was like the scam Way back in the day, like, not New York.

New York is really that place where, like, you know, even Facebook Marketplace. I didn't got got before, like, you said PlayStation went to pick up a PlayStation. I think it was PlayStation 3. Went. Picked it up. You know, he. I already knew it was a red flag because when I approached him, it was like a bunch of them, you know, on bikes. And like, it just looked like he was ready for something, you know, like, maybe I open it up and see something. So I'm like, it got to the crib, trying to connect everything. It was not turning on. Everything was just off.

How much on it?

It's probably like 350.

350.

350. And then I, I. And then this is the worst part. Got open my phone, trying to text the guy his name, like, yeah.

Blocked.

Yeah. So I was like, ah, you know, charge it to the game, you know. But that's New York. It's crazy.

Yeah, New York will get you, bro. Yeah, New York is mean.

Yeah, New York.

And so here's the thing, bro. If we don't stick together, right, we don't come together as a people, you're going to see a lot more crime because they don't know. People don't know where to get money. Like, just think if you don't have financial literacy, if you're not in our circle, where we got people to teach you 50 different businesses from E commerce, real estate, flipping, credit, a funding company, trucking. Like, there's a million different things that we know, people that are making millions of dollars in these industry. But if you don't know, like, what are you gonna do? There's a subset of people that's just gonna rob, steal, scam. Like, that's gonna be heightened. But we don't do it to other ethnicities. We do it to each other.

Yep, yep.

So, yeah, man, I'm big on, like, togetherness for our community. If I ever could help some, you know, help people in any way, I'm gonna help. Because, like, how with y', all, it came back around and it helped me. Crazy, right? Big time.

So indirectly, directly and indirectly, you know.

Yeah. But that's how it goes, right? Yeah, that's just how it. That's just how it is. You never. You don't know. It's like, yo, hey, let me do something. I'd be like, all right, cool, go ahead. Sometimes people be trying to pay me. I'll be like, nah, I don't need the money. So if I. If I collected $100, right? What is that going to do for me? Nothing. I know. And this is the thing. This is like a certain level of being blessed. Favor or whatever. I know I could say no to money when people try to give. Give it to me because I'm gonna get it back, and, like, multiples of whatever people can give me.

You know what? I was. I was watching a YouTube video yesterday. They said, like, the easiest way to negotiate is to be able to walk away. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I learned that walk away because.

Like, all right, cool. Some people like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You notice the opportunity of a lifetime, you know, but in order to actually come up in things like real estate and also business.

Yeah.

Being able to say no. Walk away.

Nah. So here's the thing, bro. I learned this a long time ago. I learned this in sales because I got a background in sales. The one who cares the least wins, right? So just imagine you negotiating for something. The person like, no, I don't care. No, I'm not taking that. I don't care. Like, whatever, but it's a Nintendo. And you really want it.

Yeah.

You like what you got called PlayStation. Is that right? It's a PlayStation 3. You really want it? And he like, Yo, 200. And you like, I got. I got 150. He like, Nah, 200. You like, yo, let me. Let me go to the bank. I got 180. Yeah, he like, I said 200. Yo, yo, don't come back tomorrow when you got it. I'm not trying to make a deal. I don't need a deal right now. Right. That person wins because you're gonna go get the rest of the money and pay.

Right?

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It's the same in real estate, too, man. It's like, I make offers for properties all the time, and I really, truly don't care if I get it or not. I know I can get properties from somewhere else. I know I could get it from land, banks, tax liens, tax deeds, realtors, brokers, wholesalers, be. Everybody's on my line like crazy, so I really can. Plus, I own over 400 already, so I really can act like I'm the shit and I don't care. The reality of it is I'll be wanting it so bad. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Just call me when you got another one. Yeah, no, we don't have to rush this deal. And they'd be like, no, we're going to get it done. I'll be like, all right, well, I'm leaving on Friday, so we can't get it done Friday. Don't even worry about it. And the other side of my mind is like, yo, I hope they get this Friday, because I really want it. And that's just important, though. Like, acting like you don't care is huge. Or being able to put that face on like. Like, you want this more than me. So you're gonna meet my terms, right? If you don't. Like, if you don't care and I don't care, then we. We both don't care, so there's no deal. But if you act, call me and say you want something or put an offer for something and everything, either way, who the one who cares the least normally wins, right?

That makes a lot of sense, too, because sometimes I'm negotiating for something and I'm like, I make it too obvious that I really, really want it. And then that's when they stay firm on the price. They don't want to drop it because they can see that you really, really want it bad. So, yeah, it's a science to everything. It's crazy, you know, but you learn along the way. You learn along the way. So I do want to jump into the upcoming conference. You know, you're bringing so many people in the room together. That's crazy. It is 500 tickets.

Before you answer that, what's the furthest place somebody's traveling from to your conference that you know of?

Canada.

Canada.

Canadian. Shout out to all my Canadian followers, man, Canada is big. And in my community, the reason being, they don't have as Many opportunities to get properties for 2, 3, 4, $500. They don't have opportunities to get land like that. I don't think they have land banks. I don't know how they do pro. How they give out or sell properties where people don't pay the taxes on or properties that are, like, abandoned, but they understand the value of owning land, the value of owning real estate. They go crazy. In my program, really. I got a guy named martirion. He bought 11 properties for $300 in Michigan. He sold them for. For $3,300 each to people in Canada in his community. So now. So as soon as he did that, so that's $33,000, he went back and got 12 more. So once he joined, like, my community, I showed him exactly where to get the properties cheap. Yo, he's just scooping properties and selling them, Just like grabbing them and just selling them to people in. In Canada. Wow, that's crazy.

Wait, you said. You said three. You said 11 properties for 300 each.

Yeah. So he spent 3, 300. He made 33, 000.

God damn.

But y' all know it's. I know what we do, bro. So you just heard the lady, right? Yeah, it's just information, man.

Information, like is.

Is information that's out there. Like land banks are the key. Tax deed auctions are key. But I like land banks better because you don't. You. There's no liens or anything on them. You know that you're getting those properties free and clear.

Yeah. So in. At the conference in Birmingham, you have all these people in the room, and they're all gonna be getting properties and also building.

Yeah, bro, I got my builder's license.

Oh, congrats.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, bro. That was big. So again, I like to have. I like to be able to have that. I don't care. I don't need anything. Mindset. Right. Being born and raised in New York, we. We kind of like to stand on our own. We're hardened because of how we were raised in New York. Right. It's like we kind of insulate when we do stuff. So I built the conference out, and I only have two guest speakers for the conference. Well, there's a host shout out to Melanie Sanders. She's the host. And then there's Lavon Idolat. She is like the trust attorney. She's an SEC attorney. I don't know if she want this information out there, but I would tell it. No, she kind of told when she spoke on the. On the call. She owns a bank, she owns a mortgage company. So those are the only two people I have. So I really have one person who's gonna speak the conference. It was the. The idea of it was for me to share my resources. So Birmingham is like one of the hottest towns in the United States. Right. So I started buying a bunch of properties there. Started going crazy in Birmingham.

Yeah.

I got my builders. We built a house in 69 days. 169,000 from the ground up.

169,000 from the ground.

Ground up is a three bedroom, two bathroom.

69 days.

Did you sell it or are you.

Keeping it Now I have it. Somebody in my community opens group homes.

Yeah.

So we're in like the final phase of doing the paperwork to open a group home. So in Birmingham you got to do like phase one training, phase two training, and then you do your application. So I'm actually allowing her to open a group home. Like, we'll split it. She's going to do the admin part. Yeah. So it's going to be crazy.

So all of that through a house you bought? Well, you built in 69 days for 169,000.

Yeah.

Now you're going to start a group home in it and make money from that.

Yeah. So the population is idd. It's development into individuals that are developmentally delayed. It's more passion plus a purpose plus profit. Right. You're helping people that have developmental. That are developmentally delayed, but they pay a lot. Like, I think it's Medicaid. Who pays a lot for them, for housing for them. Birmingham doesn't have a lot of places like that, a lot of homes for them to go to once they age out of, like their younger. It's not like a group home, but like their younger situation. They don't really have a lot of places to go. So she convinced me. She's like, charles, let me please open one. She's been doing the research and she's like, they just don't have a place to go. So I'm like, all right, we could do it, you know.

So in this case, with. With a property like that, are you guys doing, like, by the room? Like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You rent them out. You. You rent them the rooms, but you have to staff it, so you have to have. It has to be staffed 24 hours a day. The piece of land that I have can hold three houses on it.

Okay.

I built one. Once it gets licensed, I'll build the other two.

Yeah.

And then we'll have three, six, nine Rooms there. And they pay a ton, bro. I'm talking like, like a lot. But you got to have it staffed, so you have to have a nurse. You have to have. Based on their developmentally. The developmental disability will tell you the staff ratio that you can have. So some people may need, like, one person per person, like one team member per person. Some may need one to three. So they may not need, like, in essence, three people could have a non severe developmental disability, and one person can kind of work with them or staff them. Yeah, right. If it's severe, which would pay more, it would be one to one. So if there's three severe people with developmental disabilities, each person would have to have a staff. But the money far outweighs, like, $20 an hour, you know, it's like serious bread.

I want to ask, like, how. How were you able to build or build a house in 69 days? Like, how?

It's way easier than fix and flipping, bro. I would never fix and flip another house. I'm over 50. Fix and flips. Once I learned how to build, I encourage everybody in real estate don't ever fix and flip another house again. If you just think of, like, housing renovations. Right. Let's just say a roof, for example.

Yeah.

If you buy a vacant house that, like, if you buy a fix and flip house, the traditional house that everybody's out here buying, and you have to renovate it. Just the roof. The roof, you have to take it off. You got to take off the old shingles. You got to take off the vapor retarded plastic. You got to take off the. The OSB boards. You got to probably strip it down to the framing. Then you have to put it back. Right. You got to put new boards because they might have holes in them. New boards, new sheathing, new shingles. Right. That's double the work. When I did my house, concrete and framing took three days because they're just putting it up. They're not. There's no taking apart and then redoing. So it's much faster and easier to me.

Yeah, that. That's. That's crazy right there.

I never heard it.

Here's the best. But just think about it. Does it make sense that it's easier to just build instead of redoing everything?

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's much easier.

So now when it comes to, like, I mean, it requires, you know, some sort of team and like. Like some sort of team and, like, because you're not doing, you know, to build in two, three days when it comes to, like, the Moving parts of, you know, building up a property from, you know, the ground up.

Yeah.

Who's usually like, on your team, like, who's in your corner when you're doing these kind of things?

That's the, that's the hard part. That's the, that's the, that's the work that has to be done.

Yeah.

So as a developer, Right. The developer is the one who conceptualizes the idea. So I'm doing a subdivision, I'm visualizing it. I. I'm gonna. They draw it out. And now I know I'm doing a subdivision. So the developer. You just really need a builder to do everything for you as a builder. Right. So the developers would hire builders. As a builder, the builder has the team, so to speak. So the builder is going to have the guys who do the clearing and the grading of the land. They're going to have the guys who do the found dig the footing and pour the foundation. They got to have the framing guys, the roofer and the carpenters, the electrician and the plumber. That's really more their team. But since I got my builder's license, I do have those individuals on my team that I'll be building for.

Right, right, right. How about like even financing something like that? Like, how does that go?

So this is what's dope about Levon, bro. Her bank has banks, her brokerage bank has banks that will do ground up, that will do ground up construction for people that don't have experience. So that's the best piece. That's the biggest piece that holds us from the biggest piece that holds us from getting into ground up construction is the lending. And we have a lender that will lend to individuals with no experience.

Because one thing I do realize is like a lot of times is when you got like these hard money, hard money lender guys, you know, the people that's doing these, these deals, they want. I don't, I'm not in real estate, you know, but from what I'm hearing is they want 10 to 20% down or something like that. The deal has to make sense as far as number wise. Numbers wise. You gotta be somewhat of an experienced person to be able to, you know, invest in a real estate.

That's the keep out man.

And I think that's like, like the top three that I know.

But here's the best thing. So hard money is usually associated. And this is why I said, I'll never do another fix and flip. Hard money is usually associated with fix and flips because they're so Risky construction loans are different. Construction loans aren't that, the interest rate isn't that high. They're typically 12 month loans for you to be able to get in, build and sell or refinance into a longer term product, which is a traditional mortgage fix and flip. Those hard money loans are crazy, bro. The percentages are super high.

What's usually like the typical percents?

I don't do hard money loans, but I've seen 16, 17, 18%. And it's like a new construction. On new construction you can get 8, 9 and 10%.

Right.

And here's what's better about new construction. You only pay interest on what you borrow. So Yes, I need $300,000 to build, but if I only took 100,000 for the first month and a half, I'm only paying interest on that 100,000. Then when I get to 200,000, I'm only paying interest on that. The hard money loan. Sometimes they, they will charge you for the allocation of funds, meaning they're gonna put $500,000 to the side for you to do your fix and flip and you're gonna be paying interest on the whole 500000 whether before you borrowed, whether.

You use it or not.

Yeah.

Wow. It's kind of so, so, so it.

Probably took you from seeing like, you know, being in real estate for some time, you've seen, you've seen that the landlord side, you've seen the investor side, but now you're on the builder side, developer side and you're like, this costs less.

It's way better, bro. It's so much safer. So I got ripped off also through renovating properties, right? That's how I started like teaching. It was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Y' all can't be ripping, like we can't keep ripping each other off. So I started teaching like best practices on how not to get ripped off when you're doing real estate. And that really just took off because so many people wanted to know like, how do I not get robbed? Because contractors, they really don't be doing the job. They don't finish, they take deposits. It's just crazy. But here's why building is so much better than renovating. Here's why building is so much better than fix and flips. You don't pay the contractor until they did the work. Show you pictures, show you pictures of past inspections, give you an invoice. The bank then goes and inspects and takes pictures and looks. They send an independent person out and then they wire you the Money, and you pay your contractor, so it's foolproof, it's super safe.

So. So now one of the things is, like, because, you know, I see you be picking apart, so not necessarily picking apart, but like, the conversations you have when the new real estate newsroom is like, you know, why your method is better than others. So now, say, for example, you know, as a newbie investor, is it a good idea to be investing in Alabama if you don't live there? Like, say, for example, I live in New York, but I'm building out in Alabama. Some people be like, oh, yo, it's your first property.

Don't.

Why you got to jump on a plane to go out and, you know, see a property, you should be able to drive there. What's your take on that?

What. What's the cost of brownstones where I live?

A couple mil?

2, 3 mil?

Couple million?

You want to start there or you want to start with 250,000?

I'd rather start with the 200. Right.

Like. Like, it's high stakes where we live, bro.

It ain't.

It's not a game. I'm meeting with Drew tonight. He's like, yo, yo, why we live down the block from each other, but we never did no business. I said, because your business be like five million dollar deals, bro.

I'm not.

I'm not risk. I'm not that risky. Like, when I built my house for 169,000, I just paid cash for it, right? I haven't made a dime off of it yet. It's just there, beautiful house and everything, but it's like, it doesn't hurt. I could sell it for 220. I could do a. I could have Airbeat and be Airbnb. I don't even know that game that well. So I just. It's just sitting there, right? So when I go, I got a place to stay, but I haven't even gone back. But it's just so, so much less risky. You number one. So if you did build in Brooklyn, right, You're not going to be. You not building the house yourself. So why do you need to be there anyway? What benefit is it going to be for you to just be sitting on top of contractors when, if you get the right builder, they're going to send you pictures of everything anyway, right? Plus, I teach put cameras up and watch your stuff yourself. So through leveraging technology, it's really no different because you get to see everything. You get to hear everything. Now, like, we got technology where we can get wi Fi, cameras That take a SIM card, you can put it anywhere on your property, talk to your contractors, and you can see every single thing that they're doing live.

That's a game changer.

Yeah. That old mind, that old oh, mindset. Thinking is done, bro. Like why? And, and I, I mean, I feel like I made a lot of money through real estate through like base hits. Just a lot of small base hits, a lot of low risk base hits. If I sold the house, I built it 169. I didn't touch a thing. Right. I touched no nails or nothing. And then I sold it for 220. That's $50,000. I did nothing. I'll take the 50 all day. That's a nice base hit. Four of those. It's risk free. They're building first. They're sending me pictures. They're getting the city inspector to come out and do the inspection. Every phase has to be inspected. So I know it's built right then I'm paying them. So it's like super safe. It's just like a base hit all day long. You can just do base hits and clean up.

Wow.

Yeah. I don't like the risky stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was gonna say why Alabama though? Like, I know you mentioned, you said it's heating up. I'm seeing articles as well. Like Katt Williams is building a massive yo.

He bought a whole studio. He bought an army base.

I'm like, what Cat Williams saw out there too? So I'm like, you know, I'm seeing people are really, really tuning in into Alabama.

Yeah.

So what's cooking up over there? Like, what got you interested in Alabama?

So first I got the plug on the land. The land bank. Because I did so much work in the Detroit land bank, the chief operating officer connected me to the land bank in Birmingham, Alabama. They let me go in and buy a ton of land. So I figured out how to buy a ton of land. But before that, just my, my conversations with developers. Coca Cola is building a 330 million dollar distribution center there. The state of Alabama got 7.7 billion dollars for new developments. They have an amphitheater there that signed a deal with Roc Nation. Like gentrification is oozing in Alabama. There's no better place than Birmingham, Alabama to build or to invest in in America right now. The infrastructure's there. The mayor, Mayor Randall Woodford is forward thinking Birmingham resident, born and raised. And this guy is just all about positive change for the city. So I had a meeting with him. I told him what we're doing. And he's just like, this is just the perfect time, the perfect place. And his exact words to me was, how can he amplify what I'm doing there? So the city's on fire, bro. It's a great city, really nice people. It's historic. It's like one of those old historic cities, but they're with change, they're with being like the new Atlanta almost.

Yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask you too. Cause I'm not even gonna lie. I know people probably listen to the podcast, they're gonna probably think the same way. But when you think of Alabama, you kind of think back to like racism, slavery and things like that. So I was gonna ask how is like you getting any pushback from the community or is it all love or is it like a mix?

It's been all love for me, but I like to stand on my own. So I have my own crew of people to build. We're locked in. And this is what I talk about, just like being insulated. So the conference, right, I'm going to teach people how to pick, purchase, profit and protect their first investment property in Birmingham, Alabama. And it's independent of anybody showing up at the conference. The mayor's invited, he said he's going to come. Great. Cool. If he doesn't, we still having a killer conference. The community development board who appointed me a designated developer with the, with the city of Birmingham, Alabama, they're supposed to show up, right? They confirmed and everything. But if they don't, cool. We still going to have a kick ass conference. Anybody could not show up. The amount of information that I have, the conference is going to be phenomenal regardless. And I built it that way to where it's not depending on a bunch of different pillars so that if somebody pulls out, we start to look shaky. It's like, nah, I've been around, so I know like I need to have the information to deliver. We got the stats, we got the infrastructure. The water department is dope, bro. Just shout out to them when you turn your water on. They come out that day and they turn it on. Like you get your meter and your water meter set up, they do it that day. The electric, the same thing. There's so like the infrastructure there is so ready for this new development that's happening that I couldn't have found. I've never experienced a better city than Birmingham. Wow.

So, so for you, like, for you, your goal, would you go be like, to have like your own city out there or like with your community, you've got a whole city out there.

We're doing that and we're all doing blue doors. So everybody that's building, yeah, we're gonna build with blue doors. So you're gonna start seeing blue all over the city. Right. But my goal is really to impact an entire city is to just be the guy that impacted the entire city. Like when people come, start driving around Birmingham, say for a little kid, just imagine a little kid driving around with his mom and just sees all these blue doors and he says, mom, like why are all these doors blue? And the mom is going to say, well, there was some guy from New York, he decided to impact our city. His name was Charles Noonan. And his community really locked in and they agreed to do blue, blue doors. And I think that's what's gonna move me more. That's what's gonna really fulfill me more. It's the impact that's good.

So now outside of like, like the typical, you know, residential real estate, are you doing any commercial, like real estate? Like, because now you're moving out there, it gotta be something to do, you know, it gotta be.

I'm a little nervous on that. Like that. Like all I've done, all I built was single family homes.

Yeah.

So now I got the subdivision. I don't even know what to do with it. It's 2 acres, it could hold 10 houses. I. All I could think of is like, build what I've built already. I don't really know how to do anything commercial like as far as like a retail, like a strip mall or mini mall and stuff like that. I don't. I would assume it's easier, but again, I just be on some base hit stuff like, like stay in my lane for now. But I get offered that stuff all the time. And part of the partnership with Birmingham, they want me to do something near a hospital like for just build like housing that could house staff of the hospital. So that should be coming out soon on that. And that, that's like in my wheelhouse house. That's in my lane. I could do some stuff like that.

So what about jobs out there? Like how's, how's like the unemployment and employment rate out there?

You think, here's what happens, right? Cities in the United States that do the worst, they get to raise their hand to the federal government and ask for aid and ask for help the most. Right. So in 2021, I think Birmingham was like one of the worst cities. Birmingham, Alabama.

The employment rate, you mean?

Yeah. Or murder rates were moving out. So violence Crime, job, everything. It was just, like, trending downward.

Yeah.

The federal government and HUD gave Governor Kate. Gave the governor, Governor K Ivey to $7.7 billion. That $7.7 billion gets reinvested into workforce development. Right. And those are programs where people pay companies to move to Birmingham, which will then bring the employees. They have incentives. I know one grant, $58 million was given for workforce development for Birmingham specifically. So that money, they'll offer incentives either through tax credits, just incentives for commercial space. Right. Incentives for partnerships. Because the city can't do anything themselves. They have to partner with companies, with developers to build. Like the city can't build. They just can't build. They have to partner with us to build. So they're bringing jobs back, like, every single week. There's articles of companies moving back to Birmingham, workforce development, partnerships. So you can get money from the city to pay staff. You can get money from the city to move there. Right. You get tax credits to bring your company there. So that's how they generate the job market, by offering companies incentives to move back there. Wow. Yeah.

You know what's crazy? I was actually watching an interview with a CPA Carter. He was like, yo, he's like, you could either use taxes or taxes going. You know, IRS is going to. You can either do what the government wants you to do or they're gonna do it regardless and then charge you for it. Right?

Yeah.

So now, reason why I say that is because now, as an investor, as a business owner, they're going to pay you to do the things that they just physically can't do at the moment. Right. So they'll incentivize you. So, for example, if you're building, the taxes might not be as high or something like that.

Oh, yeah. Nah, that they. This is why I love sharing this information.

Yeah.

They're partnering with developers. So I got invited as a developer to Birmingham's Developer Summit, where they. They flew in all the developers that they wanted to do business with, showed them all the opportunities, and there's going to be a rfp, a request for proposal. So first you fill out a request for qualifications. So they brought everybody into a room. The mayor was there, community development, everybody was there. The land bank is there. And then they show every. All the opportunity they have. So the city took back some schools that were vacant. They took back some. A lot of land and things that need to be renovated or developed. Then you have to do what's called an rfq, a request for qualifications. That means submit your qualifications to Be a. A qualified developer with the city, a designated developer. Once you're a designated developer, then they will announce projects that they want to be done, and they're doing partnerships with them. So they have to partner with the developers to build the city. So that money, they either going to give you the land or like, let's just say a school that's been vacant, they want to turn it into a hotel, a senior living facility. They're either going to give you the land or give you the money. Like, give you the vacant school, the land, the money, the resources, the tax rate that the partnership is like, we're giving you a ton of stuff to develop. You don't have to, like, that's the biggest deal in America is those development deals. Because where else, like, do you. They just give you land like that. They'll just give you places to redevelop. But that's what the money is for. That's what the money's for. So, yeah, man, this is like just discovering development is like, one of the best things that ever happened.

Wow, that's dope. That's actually good, what they're doing out there, you know, we're actually bringing in experienced developers to help build the city, you know, so that really shows that, like you said, like, they're really determined to really take it to the next level.

And they're big. They call it public to private partnerships. Right? Them being a public, me being a private developer. They are relying on us to do the development, to redevelop the city. I'm doing my own movement. 500 people, right? We're doing our own thing, so to speak. And once I submit for the rfp, the proposal that they're going to offer me, I'll submit for it. I should get it. But even if I don't, like, I got. I got 500 people that want to build, so I'm kind of, like, straight.

Either way, you know, it's crazy, you know, when you're able to gather people around and when you're able to gather people around and, you know, like, you guys have one set mission, it's almost hard for them to say no to certain things, you know, because the power is in the numbers, you know?

Yeah, it's. It's a force to be reckoned with. Right? Like, they know and Community Development told me, right? They like, yeah, we've been hearing about your conference. I'm in New York, bro. So they're hearing about it. I'm like, you guys good? Y' all coming? They're like, yeah, we're come up. We already heard about it already.

Yeah.

Again, it goes back to the, like, the. The. I care. I. I care the least. So, like, y' all want to give me this land for me to develop this stuff and to build? All right. Y' all gonna give it to me and the money or, like, I'm good. I could just. I'm doing my own thing on this in the city anyway. Yeah, right. So, yeah, man, it's just like, here's what I learned before, too, even. And I only. I heard this, like, three, man. I'm gonna say, like, three years ago, right? When I first started teaching, I first got on social media, I was like, well, how do you get on these shows? How do you partner with these people? Like, how do you grow? Because we all started at zero, right? And somebody said to me, become big enough so that people want to partner with you. So when you're, like, a little guy, like, I'm not partnering with you. Right. It just makes no sense.

Yeah, yeah.

But when you're big or big. When you just become big enough, that stuff automatically opens for you.

Yep.

Right? So y' all gotta. Y' all got guests that we never thought would come sit. Would fly to New York to come sit down with us. I' ma blow some spots up, too, bro. We've had guests that we've never thought would pay us to come sit down with us.

Yeah, yeah, right.

Like crazy. So when we first started, right, we was in Brooklyn on a cold, rainy night. We didn't think, like, we'd have sponsorship for podcasts. We didn't think people would pay us to get their message out there or to pay us to fly to New York and come sit an interview, but we actually became big enough to where they fly into New York.

I was gonna say it kind of reminded me of a quote that I heard, like, Navo, he said, network. Yeah. He was like, networking is overrated. First and foremost, become the person, and then people want to come, you know, network with you. So it's interesting you said that, but I definitely do want to jump into building.

Okay.

Because you. Early in the podcast, you was mentioning all the benefits of building. So I want to know what is the benefits of building from the ground up? Like.

All right, so the top three benefits to build from the ground up. One, the cost. You're going to save so much money. Builders. Build the house and then sell it on. Sell it on Trulia and realtor.com on Zillow. Right? So you can build for 200,000. And you're going to sell it for 3, 3:50 on Trulia and Zillow. Right. So you save so much money. It's so much safer. You only pay your builder after they've completed that phase of work. And then the third thing is you do not have to be there so you can build remotely because you're not physically building anyway. Right. So you're just going to put your camera systems up on your construction site and you just watch your build. It's. It's the most beautiful thing in the world.

That makes a lot of sense. Now I see why you're so much into building. You got your building license and everything had to raw.

I did that for the people. I failed at one time. It's two parts, right? It's the law part and then, like the cold part. Right, the law part. I took it super easy, read the book in, like, two days, knocked it out. I thought I could do that with the other. The other book, the. The building part. Right. It's over a thousand pages. I tried to wing it, bro, and I failed. So then I actually had to sit down at Angela Yee's coffee shop for a week. And I went there every day and I read every single page in that book. 1200 pages. Then I went and passed the test and got my builder's license.

Nice.

That's nice. Congrats. Congrats.

All it takes is one person. You know what I mean? There's just one person to make up their mind that they're going to do this.

Yeah, that's what it is. It's. It's committing to it.

Yeah.

Right. I wouldn't. I would have been shocked if I passed it on that first try without the commitment. But once I committed, it was like, all right. I knew I was gonna pass. I felt it. I'm like, all right, I know everything. So I just took the test and passed. It was still hard, though. Yeah.

So now you can build it to your resume now, too. But I do want getting into your experience in real estate because you've been in the game, like I said earlier, you know, for a while, what is wrong with fix and flips? Like, why are you so much against fix and flips? Like, a lot of people making a bag from it. But what's bro.

We don't have enough time to go into the worst things of fix and flips. Like the profits not there. So the money goes up. Contractors, when you hear, I'm. I'm going to give you three contractors are going to rob you Hard money lenders are already going to rob you. And then if that property doesn't sell, you got to take a loss. So all that work you did, you're going to take, you can potentially take a loss. The ability to lose is so much higher in fix and flips than it is in any other asset class in real estate. You also, you don't make any money in between flips. So I know you, you hear people say they making a bag, but if it takes six months, you're not making any money. You just, you're just shelling money out. Right. The hard money loans on those fix and flips are crazy. The prices are so super high. And then contractors, it's so hard to get good contractors. Contractors in the fix and flip game, they don't fix the house first and then charge you. The first thing they ask you for when somebody comes to your house to renovate it is what, a deposit. Right, right. It's a whole different game.

You know what's crazy? I actually had a funding client where probably a few years ago, like two, three years ago, she did a flip and the contractors ran off on her with the fun with the, with like they didn't finish the service. So whichever way they didn't finish the service, it forced her to go out and find some more, you know, avenues to go out and get funding.

Yeah.

Then she maxed out all of her credit cards. She's trying to get into group homes and she has like, you know, situations going on with her family. She's like the major breadwinner, everything like that. And three years later, she's still going through it, trying to, you know, pull through from, you know, a situation that happened a few years back with contract.

That's tough.

Here's what is big nightmares in that.

Here's the thing that contractors don't tell everybody they're working job to job. They don't got a whole bunch of money saved up to from work that they did before. They are living like flip to flip as well. That's why they never tell you that they can't do a job or won't do a job. If they really want a job, they give you a low price, get the job and then tell you, oh, I didn't see this under the walls. This is horrible. This is going to cost more. They always coming back for more is super hard at every level. Every level. Right. So even in my house where I live, I could pay whatever they asked me for to do renovations. They still don't come back and finish on time. They're just. Hey, man, I just feel all contractors are creeps, bro. For, like, that's just my. That's just my real feeling. Look, if y' all agree, right? Put a. Put the word contractors are creeps in the comments. If a contractor ever ran off on you for contractor ever didn't finish a job. And here's the worst part about contractors.

Yeah.

I don't care about bashing y'. All. I just don't care. Y' all robbed enough people. It's gotta stop. Here's the worst part, right? A contractor will do. Have to work in your house, take the full pay, take the deposit, take. Take the rest of the pay for your house. Don't finish the work, stop at 50 and run off. You now gotta go call a new contractor. Every single time a new contractor comes to the house, what do they say? I gotta take this apart because they did it wrong and start all over.

Yeah.

So now you gotta pay, like, double. Like, that's the most shadiest thing in the world, bro. Like, I've had half of houses done where they could just come in and finish the work, but they be like, oh, this was horrible. Yeah, that's my work they gotta take. Yeah, that's not my work. I'm like, yo, the work is good. Like, keep going. They automatically say they gotta take everything down and start all over. And that's the biggest, like, piece of crap in the world. Like, come on, man. Finish the work, please.

Nah, it's definitely a lot of contractor horror stories. Like, for sure. Before we wrap up, I did want to ask you because, you know, you're having this big conference in Birmingham, and you said that people are. They're going to learn how to pick purchase and profit, profit and protect. So can you just break, like, break that down for us? Like, you know, somebody, they. They. They attend a conference, they. They. They end up working with one of your builders.

Yeah.

How are they going to end up, you know, protecting the asset, profiting from it, you know?

Yeah.

So generational wealth.

So I want to teach people how to do everything when it comes to real estate. Right. I want to teach so they don't take losses because losses hurt us.

Absolutely.

Like, they put us back. Your person's doing funding, so they're smart enough to know they can get funding, but some people are actually saving for years to get into real estate and then get hurt like that. So I want to teach people how to pick their first property, Meaning I'm going to teach people how to buy land. All the things you got to look for, like it's got to have road frontage. We want to make sure it has sewer, we want to make sure it's an infill lot, we want to make sure it has access to power lines. We want to run the comps in the neighborhood to make sure we can get our money's worth. So I want to teach people how to pick property and buy land because we don't know nothing about land purchasing it. I want to teach people how to buy it. Like, like how do you get the money to buy it? How does financing work? How does funding work? How do lenders work with land? So that's the purchase part, profit. I'm going to go through all the exit strategies. We're going to teach group homes, we're going to teach how to sell, we're going to teach how to pre sell. So while we're, while we're building. So oftentimes like you see houses being built and then you see a sign up pre selling before it's even finished. So I want to teach that, that strategy because as a developer I got so many offers on my property before it was even finished. So I want people to know you can, you can have that sign that I showed you guys up before you even start building and potentially sell your house before it's even done. Wow. So, so that's profit from it and then protecting it. Man, this is, this is a horror, a horrible stat. But African Americans at one point owned 14% of all affordable and available land in the United States. Today we are down to 1.3% ownership of land. The reason we lost that land is because of heirs property. We didn't know how to protect it. We didn't know how to pass properties down. The systems of a trust and wills were new. We didn't trust them. So when we died, we lost a lot of our properties in probate court. Right. We just lost them. Just poor succession planning. So we have a trust attorney coming in who I think is like one just as equally as important and all of the acronyms. Right. Because we have to learn how. Now that I'm teaching people how to get them, we won't lose them again. That's my biggest fear. Right. As I just teach people how to buy and sell. And then the color of Birmingham turns blue. Yeah. Could turn a different color, which we don't really, you know. So yeah, I want to, I want us to be able to learn how to pass these properties down so that we could keep them and we'll always have them in our family's last name.

That's. That's some real impact right there. Like, for real. So I know a lot of people is definitely going to leave that conference creating some type of wealth for their family. Yeah, a lot of impact. That's impact. That's impact right there.

I'm trying to do a city, bro. I see it. We're impacting an entire city.

I can't wait to have another conversation before 20, 26, man.

Yeah, yeah.

See how it looks.

You guys pulling up to the conference?

I would like to.

Yeah, let's go. Let's get it. Yeah, let's get it for sure.

Yo, it would be dope if we did, like, live podcasts at the conference. That would be killer. Two hours away from Atlanta. Two hour drive, Birmingham.

Do they have a major airport in Alabama?

Yeah, they do. Yeah. Shuttlesworth Shuttles field.

Yeah.

But with the conference, we packed it out, bro. Like, it's hard to get a flight now. So. Yeah, it's back, yo. It's like 2500 people. Plus there's like a mixer that we're doing Friday night. It's a. The. So the flights from New York definitely been sold out, right? So we're big in. Our community is pretty big in the Tri State. Those been sold out. So what people are doing is flying to Atlanta and driving two hours. Damn, Alabama is central. So you actually get that hour back. So you leave at 4, you'll get there at 5, but it's really like Eastern time. 6.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, yeah, so they in the day, in the. The community. They are flying together, they renting cars together. Like minivans and SUVs. They renting them together. Some are getting rooms and Airbnbs together. Yeah, like, community is so powerful, man. It's. And. And I. I wake up to seeing these messages every day.

Wow.

People buying properties all the time, right? People selling for big profits. And then I get to see community where we actually do. We actually can come together as a community and function like we should be functioning. And I just woke up this morning, one morning, man, and I just put. I love to see this. Yeah, I just replied back to them, like, because I was seeing, like, they getting together, they getting cars, they, like, chipping in for stuff. They pulling resources. I was like, man, this is amazing.

Wow, that's some real stuff right there.

Some good stuff to say.

We definitely gonna wrap up. But why? Like, I just gotta ask you, bro, like, you so obsessed with land. Like, what's up with. With you? Accumulating so much land, you know, like, what is your goal? Like.

That'S the, that's the foundation. Everything is on land. That's the resource. That was the real definition of freedom, right? Like as slaves. When you're free, if you don't own land, you really not free. Right? Freedom came with land ownership. And then when you think about it, just think in today's world, right, if we could live rent free or like you owned your house, where you live, that comes with a sense of freedom because you don't. You're not now in the rat race where you got to pay mortgage, you got to pay rent, you got to pay bills. Like, that's your freedom. Just imagine like the houses I have, right? I don't have any mortgages on them. I could make money this month. I could not make money. Covid was peaceful to me. Covet was. It was peaceful, bro, because I was like, I didn't have any stress of like, damn, I gotta make money, I gotta pay my bills. I'm losing my job. Like, I don't have none of that. It was more like, damn, I get to chill with my kids. We was playing basketball. We played basketball at the house. Football in the house. What's the cornhole like? Cornhole? We played every single day. We throw the sandbags.

Oh, okay.

So y' all saw in my basement, the, the red and blue thing with the sandbag. So like co. Like, it was, it was, it was, it was a positive for me because I had no financial worry. So a lot of what I do, man, I want to teach us how to buy land because there's so much available land. But that's really like the key to freedom. You could buy land, you build your house. You don't gotta pay some fancy builder who charging double for a house that he built. You can buy and build your own and save so much money. And then that's where our freedom is.

Ownership 100. I totally agree. I totally agree. But this is a great one, bro. This is a great one. Yeah, I know. By the time the episode releases tickets is probably gonna be gone, man. So what, what, you want to leave?

Got like 20 more. Yeah, yeah. We way ahead too. We're away because a lot of times things don't sell out until like the last week. Like our people normally are last minute consumers, right? Even with challenges. I get 500 people, 400 be the last two weeks. Be the last week, right? So I know it's going to be a mob of this, but the website to get a ticket for the challenge is let's build birmingham.com. if it is sold out, if there's a huge demand, I'm. I'm. I might stream it. I might stream it. I don't want to because I really just wanted to wrap my arms around 500 people for 20, 25.

Yeah.

Because that was just my goal. Right. I just made it up because we, you know, I saw the blueprint summit. But yeah, I think I'm. If. If I really get a high demand for it, I'll stream it and let other people just pay for like a, you know, like a video access or whatever.

Okay. Not bad.

Yeah, Definitely. That's going to be dope. So definitely, if it's. If it ends up being sold out, y' all could grab your. The streaming tickets. I could stream it. Witness history and the next one. They'll definitely be there.

Yeah, let's get it.

Be a part of some good man. Be a person.

Yeah. All right, so you got let's build birmingham.com. you can hit me up on IG. CharlesJ. Noonan on IG. And please, definitely tune into the real estate newsroom on YouTube.

Yeah.

We up to 12, 000 subscribers.

Yeah.

And what I. Why I think that's dope is because it's education. Like, we not entertaining. We're not making nobody laugh. We ain't playing no music. We not talking about, like, all the. The entertaining stuff. It's really education. So to have 12, 000 people tune into that and we launch a new episode. I do, actually. I give a property away the first Tuesday of every month. I give a free land giveaway. Land. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did that, bro. Yeah. Free land giveaway first Tuesday of every month. And they just gotta be a subscriber. They just gotta be a. It's a form. Yeah, it's a form to fill out. Gotta be a subscriber. I didn't even know that. Helped me a lot, too. I think I got like 2,000 followers. I only launched it two months ago. Yeah. But I think the word is super exciting, too. Everybody's on there, like, yelling and screaming.

Crazy.

It's crazy. It's a whole movie, man.

That's nice.

Yeah.

Definitely giving back for sure.

We have to land.

Construction, relationships, everything. So this was definitely, you know, a good one. And I can't wait to see how the year is gonna end off. Like, we just starting off, you know, some of the success of the people that does come to the event.

Yeah.

You know, just fast forward and be like, yo, I Just sold my first property or I just, you know, just build up the construction, you know.

Yeah, just stay locked in, bro. You're gonna see it. Like, I post a lot of that stuff. I'll be posting most of my stuff. Be of my students and their success testimonials.

Yeah, that.

That just really fulfills me. It doesn't. That. That doesn't. We know how to. That doesn't go viral, but it's like, I can go viral when I want, but I really like posting when they. They have their wins. They talk about things like that, like impacting and fulfilling, like, husband's dreams and things like that. That's, like, dope to me.

Yeah.

Well, yes, sir.

Definitely it was a good time to have a third episode, for sure. You know, Charles Noonan, it's always a good. Absolutely, bro. Any final words for you, man?

It's always a good one. Anytime. We got Charles on the pod, you know, a lot of game. And now we've seen the impact, real impact, especially for our community, people like us. So.

Y.

Love to see it, bro.

The people was tapping in for the first two.

Yeah.

So they gonna be banging down your doors for that live stream.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. And we about to shut the city down tonight, I think. We don't have the hottest thing tonight. Yeah, to, like, tonight gonna be like that. I don't. I don't know. Any other events going on tonight in the city.

Yeah.

Who we partnering with? Tonight is gonna be crazy.

It's gonna be a good opportunity.

It's gonna be a good night.

A really good opportunity. Yeah, bro, but that's how things go. It go through relationships, you know, so, yeah, definitely gonna be a good one.

Let's get it.

Any final words, Charles?

No, man.

Just lock in. I appreciate y'.

All.

You know, like, we just got, like, a great partnership that's been beneficial for both sides, so I appreciate you guys even having. Because y' all big now, you know, Almost there. Y' all way faster. Yeah, bro.

There for sure.

So, yeah, the tables turn. You just got to treat people right now, you know, Now y' all have me as a guest, so I appreciate it.

Yeah, yeah. Appreciate you as well, man.

Charles on. For sure.

Yeah, absolutely. So this was another episode. You about to say something? No, this is another episode of motion and success. Thank you guys for tuning in. Like, Comment, Share, subscribe, Do the do. Make sure you go into that live stream, because, listen, this is gonna be a good episode. This is gonna be a good event, but this was a great episode, and I'LL talk to you guys soon. Peace. Alright, so here's a quick announcement before I have our guests introduce themselves. A lot of people that are watching this channel is more than likely small business owners, entrepreneurs, people that are looking to change their lives and make a lot of money for themselves. So now one thing that I realized is there are stats out there proving that a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of business owners fail because they have lack of capital. So what I decided to do was I thought it was only right that I start having free classes every single Monday on our YouTube channel on the Motion and Success page. Every single Monday at 7pm live indirect, where you'd be able to have your questions answered live. And this is literally a breakdown showing you exactly of how you can get funding for your small business. So if you're looking for business credit cards, business loans, business lines of credit, any kinds of funding, this is the live that you want to tune into. So go ahead and subscribe to the channel and put it on your calendar. Every Monday at 7pm we are going live, showing you step by step exactly how to get funding for your small business. See you guys on Monday at 7:00pm Eastern Standard Time.