Personal Q&A with Adam & Gary: 1 Million Downloads Special

All right, Gary, this is a very special podcast only recording because what are we celebrating right now?

Big day, Big day, Big day, Big number.

We just hit 1 million downloads on the podcast and we just wanted to say thank you so much to everyone who listens to our message. We get to hear from you all every single day. And it just, it really is super touching to us. And I gotta say, Gary, we launched this podcast not too long ago. I did not think we would be growing month on month the way we have been and hit a million downloads this quickly. So thank you. It's been really fun.

Dude. I, I, this is unbelievable. Like, this is like one of those things, like people always say, find something you love. You never work a day in your life. And like that's always like cliche and stuff. And they also say the key to putting out good content is just making something that you authentically like doing and the rest kind of takes care of itself. And then I said to you just, I don't know, like a week or so ago that the time that we get to spend recording these podcasts, like the couple of hours that we spend doing it, it's like literally the two best hours of my week. I look forward to it. I have a good time. It's intellectually stimulating. Like, we laugh, we joke around and it's, and then the fact that other people actually want to listen to this too is like cherry on top. It's amazing.

I totally agree, I totally agree. It is so fun. And I just want to say to all of our listeners, thank you so much. So we are going to do something a little bit different just for our podcast fans out there. And Gary compiled a list of questions that we've gotten from some of our clients as well as some fans. Gary, is that the source here?

Yeah. So, you know, as, you know, a couple, couple weekends ago, we held a private event for some of our clients. And during those events we get a ton of exposure and ton of time to hang out with them. And so whether it was at a happy hour or a dinner or pre post session, people just always come up to us and like have questions. And so these are a bunch of the most common questions we got during that event. And just like other times interacting with clients, you know, during our sessions, people will private message us and just like ask these random things. And so some of this is a little bit of personal, some it's a little insider ish, and some of it's just kind of basic. Like what do you, what do you guys do? Like what are you doing?

Yeah.

Which I think is kind of fun.

This is for those who have nothing else to listen to today, and this is what they're getting. I hope you. I, like, get self conscious putting out this type of content because I'm like, does anyone really care? But I hope you all do. I hope you enjoy, because we're going to get personal today and tell you a little bit about ourselves and, I don't know, give you some insights into who these two guys are that you've been listening to for relationship advice. So it should be fun.

Yeah, it's a little. It's a little. It's personal and it's a little behind the scenes and, you know, how the sausage is made, so to speak. But so, you know, I think the number one question that we get related to the podcast is what. What made you want to do a podcast? Like, we were doing so many other things and it wasn't. It's not completely necessary to anything else that we're doing. So I guess actually that's. It's more of even a question to you, Adam. Like, why, of all the things to do, like, why a podcast?

Well, I mean, I've been creating content on YouTube and for my clients for well over a decade now. And honestly, talking to a camera without someone on the other side of it really gets lame after a while. I gotta say, it just got to a point where I'm like, I can't. I can't do this every week anymore. I need a break. And so when we met and you started working for Love Strategies and started running the coaching staff, became our chief love scientist, I'm like, dude, this is the way we got to do it. We have to have our back and forth. And I feel very lucky because we instantly, I think, had some chemistry. And that's not typical. I've done some reality TV shows. I've done it with, like, co hosts where there is no chemistry. You're like, not on the same page, and it is awkward. And so after our first couple of podcasts, I'm like, oh, yeah, I can do this once a week and have our podcast sessions and make it happen. So I. I hate to say it does come from a selfish place in some ways, because, you know, I've been creating content for a long time, but this is just a. A way of doing it that is just so much more natural and so much easier. So I don't know. That's my answer. I hate to go selfish, but, Gary, what about you, man?

No, I think it's funny, though, because I remember when you first reached out to me and just, like, talking about just things in general. And in some ways, we seem like we could. Could be potentially completely opposite people in the sense of how we were approaching it. It's like, I always think of it as, like, you're, like, street smart, and I was book smart, and sometimes those people don't get along.

Right? You're the nerd. Yeah, you're the nerd. I'm the jock that doesn't know anything. Totally.

Yeah, right? Like, I could be like, okay, mouth breather. Like, come on. Like, and, like, it could really not work. But then as we kept talking and having these conversations, it was clear that we shared a mission. And, like, the mission of Love Strategies is something that so resonates with me. It's empowering humanity to thrive in healthy, loving relationships. And I just love anything. I'm a sucker for empowerment. I'm a sucker for anything positive. I'm a sucker for anything that helps people improve their lives through science. Like, I have my very own mission statement, and that's what it is, is improving lives through science. And so this for two people who seem like they could be very, very different. What it took was a little curiosity, getting to know each other, and I was like, oh, my gosh, we're almost the same person. And the thing that I remember very clearly saying to my wife, Colleen, after I met you for the first time, she goes like, so what was that, Adam dude? Like, like, what Was that a good conversation? Because I was telling him, like, I have no idea what this conversation is going to be. I don't know who this guy is. Like, this is, like, kind of weird. And I was like, you know what? He reminds me of my best friend, this guy Brett. He reminds me of best friend. Like, it's the same vibe, and it's. It has made it all very, very easy.

Not gonna cry on this. Not doing it. We're podcast only, so no one will know. But I. I really appreciate that, and I feel very much so the same way. It has been a wild journey, and that was definitely the impetus for me as far as starting Love Strategies, was the mission. There's a lot of things you can do in life, and the end of the day, you can really only choose one. And this is the thing that's always just. It draws me back in every single week, every single day. It's just. It's the stories, man. I like, again, I. I think we do everything we do in some way from a selfish Perspective, like, it has to fill our own needs. And, like, I really do love the stories that when people do find love or they feel more confident and they're like, oh, if they just go on that date and suddenly, oh, my God, I can do it. That fuels me, man. That gets me. That gets me jazzed up because I've been in. I've done other businesses, I've, you know, as management consulting before this. And, you know, you just don't get that. You don't get that from it.

So there's nothing better than feeling like you made a difference in someone else's life.

Yeah, exactly.

And the crazy thing about it is I think about this, you know, my role as a professor, my role at Love Strategies. It's. You're not only making an impact on their individual life, but then every other life that subsequently impacts, interacts, or comes into their orbit. There's just this ripple effect that you just never really understand and can really ever comprehend where your influence ends. And it's. I think everybody likes to have that sort of sense of purpose. At least that's what that's what it is for me. It's. It's like that driving sense of purpose.

Yeah. And for those. Because I always have to turn this into some type of advice because I'm again, getting self conscious from this podcast. I would say for those of you who. Who are looking for work, you can find professions that give you that inner peace and that excitement. And it really does, you know, you jump out of bed. I mean, I was up at 4am this morning. I'm just like, I can't wait to go. Can't wait to make it happen. And you can find it. You can do it. It does exist out there. It's not a unicorn. So, yeah, I like it.

Cool.

All right, Gary, what's our next question? What do we got?

The other one was someone I was telling. We had that event a couple weeks ago, and someone was asking, well, how's the podcast doing? I was like, interesting you should mention that because, you know, I get the report every week about how many people have downloaded and all that kind of stuff said, you know, we're about to hit a million. It's just, it's a matter of a week, week and a half. And they said, a million. That's a huge number. Did you ever think you were gonna hit a million? So I'll ask you, Adam, did you ever think we were gonna hit a million?

Yeah, dude, 100. I didn't know when I didn't know When, But a hundred percent. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I only do things with that. You know me, dude. Like that is, that is my mindset. It's like it now I'm already thinking about the 100 million mark, so. Because I'm a sicko. But I, I did think so. Because I really do believe that if you put in the effort, put in the time and you adjust. We've made a lot of adjustments over the past year or so to try and improve the. Com content based on feedback. And I think that's true of anything in life. If you have a goal and you keep making adjustments and, and learn from it, I think you can hit really any goal that you set for yourself, you know. So, yes, I, I gotta say, I know that's probably not the answer you're thinking, but I, I was thinking that this is gonna happen for sure.

Maybe. I'll be honest, I. I thought it was going to happen too. Not just this, not this fast. Right. Like I'm, I'm optimistic in almost everything I do and I, you know, the, the dream big thing like you have, I have that too. Maybe not quite as much as you do, but like I'm a little bit more of a pragmatist, I think sometimes.

It's smarts, bro. Come on, quit being so academic, man.

You're like, yeah, I can take down that guy that's 7 foot and 350, no problem.

Well, I'm, I'm a sicko. Like, I went mountain biking a year ago and I hadn't gone mountain biking in like six years. I ended up hitting a 12 foot jump and then had to go to the hospital because I'm, I have a sick belief in myself that is irrationally too confident sometimes. So.

Yeah, that sounds about right. No, nothing about that story surprises me in the least.

Yeah, it was really bad. My brother's like, what were you thinking hitting that jump? Like, I don't know, I saw it. I was like, I think I got this. I did not have it. Did not have it.

I was thinking, I think I got. That's great. But it's like, you know, I thought we would do it. I didn't. I just didn't think it was going to happen that fast because we're not trying to have hot takes. We're not trying to be controversial. We're not like chasing headlines. We don't do politics or celebrities or reality TV or drama or sex. And so a lot of the relationship stuff that's out there isn't really solidly relationship. Strategy, content, and advice. There's a lot of that other fluff and, like, clickbaity kinds of things in there. And so I was just like, okay, I like what we're doing. We're gonna stick to what we're doing. But I don't know, I just. I thought it might just take us longer because we were staying so pure to the relationship advice side of things. But I'm so happy to be proved wrong on that.

Yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree. What a fun. What a fun milestone. The thing is, I always believe it to be true, but I can be sometimes a little bit too optimistic. Then when we hit it, I'm like, oh, my God. God, that's crazy. So I love that you forced me to celebrate these things, because I'm always like, onto the next. Onto the next. But this is. It's wild. It's wild to see this. There's no doubt.

Cool.

Yeah, it's cool.

So the next question is probably the most common question. I. I think we had over 20 people at this event. I think at least 10 people asked me this one question at some point, which was, how did you and Adam find each other?

I honestly have to go back into my brain, but from what I remember, I saw your TED Talk online, and I was like, oh, this is very different than what's out there. This is very aligned with what I. I talk about. So I did my Internet web trolling and found. You found your website. At the time, I believe you had the Science of relationships website. They had started with some colleague. And so I hit you up, and I think originally, if I'm not mistaken, I was like, can I buy your website?

Yep, yep.

I think. I think that's what that was, like, the original kind of, like, impetus. And then we got talking. I think you'd already sold it.

We had just. We had literally just sold it weeks before you mentioned it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I think from there, I'm like, hey, man, let's keep in touch. I. I'll say that to people and be like, yeah, I don't know. But every six months or so, I think I was hitting you up, and I'm like, hey, man, we got a place for you here. Like, we need to do something. We need to do something. And then finally, it just got to a point. I think it got to a point where I hit you up so many times. I'm like, all right, I gotta actually. I gotta take some action here, and let's make it happen. And you were down. Then we Met up and the rest is history. Soulmates from there. Is that fair to say? Yeah, that's how I remember it.

I completely forgot about the whole website thing, but yet that was part of it originally. And I do remember the, I think the first time you emailed me it was like, I get so many of those kinds of emails, I'm not even sure if I emailed back to the first one. And then you emailed it like, hey, following up on this other thing, this thing that I sent, I was like, okay. So then we talked and it was just like, I don't know, we just always had like these cool conversations that it was like, okay. And you're like, oh, I'll check in another couple months.

Like, okay, yeah, yeah. Well, I went through a phase of reaching out to a lot of academics and what I, what came out of this as, you know, my feelings towards many people in academia is that it was a lot of useless conversations. I did not feel like I was getting much out of those conversations. And they didn't respect a lot of what we were doing for whatever reason. I think just on the surface they never actually looked at what we're doing. They were just like, oh, well, this isn't happening in university, then perhaps this is not right for me. And then you were just like, oh, this is cool.

Oh.

And then you looked into it like, oh, wow. This is actually really backed by a lot of science and psychology and, you know, but it's used in a way that is very easy to digest and actually take real action on. And so you were just very different. You were very different. You were the only academic that stuck, I'll tell you that much from what I remember at the time.

Well, I think, you know, it's so important that what's the point of doing all this science stuff if it's not useful?

Right, right.

It's like my blue collar upbringing or something that it's just I'm so practical like that where it's. Yeah, you're not going to be able to, you know, I can publish a study in a journal and 100 people read it and that's a major success. 100 people is. No, no, that's nothing.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's not actually the people that are making changes in their life to actually use it to benefit their love life. Like, I don't know. So it's like I want to be closer. Like that's why I like teaching. Like I can actually see people learning live and see it helping them live. And I don't know, I just, maybe I'm too impatient or I have a hard time at delay of gratification. But it's, I like that immediacy of, like seeing the immediate benefits and results of things.

And there just, just to take this one step further is there are some academics that if you use their research and you simplify it, they, they don't like that very much because you're missing perhaps some of the nuance of it. And you're like, well, yeah, of course there's nuance, but if you get too much into the weeds, then no one's going to listen to it because it's boring. Boring. So you have to distill some things down to its essence within reason. And so I, I've always appreciated that about you and your style.

Well, and there's no such thing as 100% certainty.

No.

Right. And so it's, it's, you know, anybody, no one's out there saying, and this is what I love about what we do, is we never say, this is going to guarantee that you get bl. Blankety blank, blank, blank. There's nothing that's a guarantee. There's no 100. It's there. We know a lot about relationships, and we can tell you all the things that set you. You up for success.

Right.

And it's, it comes down to percentages at some point, but it's. We do know certain things that can help, and it's not a guarantee, it's not a magic pill, but it's certainly super helpful and it's going to set you up for success. And it's really sometimes that simple.

Agreed. Yeah. This could be a podcast in itself, but I'll, I'll let you move forward here. I could keep going on this topic for a while. You're getting jazzed up on this one.

I could get, I could go crazy on that one. So another one is, how does coaching relationships and just dealing with relationships in general help your relationship or hurt your relationship?

I mean, I'd say it's all net positive, really, at the end of the day, because, and I think this is true, Even when I was coaching as a single guy, it forced me to live in alignment with what I teach. And so we have some very core tenants here at Love Strategies that we teach. A big one, for example, is don't lie. Just don't lie under any circumstances, even to other people, but certainly to your partner. And it's just one of those things that it can be really easy to have a white lie. But if you're teaching this stuff all day long and then your wife comes out in a dress that is just God awful know, and it's very rare. Luckily I don't have to have one of those moments but you know, it's just one of those things. She's asked me for my advice. I, she knows with 100% certainty that I will tell her the truth and we have that type of relationship. She does the same with me. So there's many examples of that. But I think it forces you in every way to just live in alignment because if you're not in alignment with your coaching then you feel like a fraud. You just feel like a total fraud. And I went through that, that kind of conflict when I was single and dating and I had to create alignment very quickly or other otherwise I just couldn't do it anymore. Like if I felt like I was teaching something that I wasn't upholding my own life, no bueno. So what about you?

Yeah, you gotta, you gotta walk the talk. And I think having, you know, I, I was very academic for a long time and you know, I had started applying things more but this is even more applied now and so it really for it has made me a better husband, it's made me a better relationship partner for sure. I will you say it's all net positive. I, I will tell you the one downside, the one way it can hurt and this is a, do not try this at home is if you mentioned to your wife, you know, this is just like a situation I had with a client and I'm going to tell you what I told them or, or better.

What would Gary say about what you just said? Oh that's, that's a good one. That'll get my wife going. I think I said that once joking and it didn't land well.

No, no, it does it. I know I knew better the one time I mentioned it and it did not go well.

No, no. And I love like how you and Jess know each other so well at this point that I'll say something like that and it's like, yeah, I know what I'm doing but I wouldn't say that in a serious moment. But yeah, I probably will never say that again, honestly based on the feedback received at that given moment.

Yeah, sometimes you think things are going to work out a certain way and they don't. Yeah, you learn. Which actually segues beautifully to the next question. With clients always ask something along this line which is, you know, they see us as relationship experts and you know, we always have such, like, nice insights and wisdom and all that stuff. But what everybody really wants to know is, when do we mess up? Like, do we mess up? And the answer is, of course, yes. Like, you know, I'm not perfect, you're not perfect. None of us are perfect. We do mess up. So people will ask this question, which is, what was your first fight with your partner? And I'll start. I'll tell you. I'll tell you mine. Colleen hates when I tell this story, and I even put it in my book, too, and she hated that as well. But we were together. We hadn't been together very long, and we were having, like, one of those moments. Like, we were like, you know, lovey dovey with each other. And she said to me something to the effect of, you know, I just love your eyes. They're just this magical blue color. They're just like in all this, like, really sweet, nice, content. About my eye color.

Yeah.

And I was like, oh, you know, that's so nice. You know. You know what I love about your eyes? Because, you know, you're supposed to reciprocate in these moments. Of course. I just love that they're this immaculate shade of brown.

Oh, Gary.

So in a moment that required no game love and tenderness and romance, I went for the joke. Oh, dumb, dumb, so dumb, so dumb. And Colleen always says, she goes, you should not tell that story because you look so bad when you. And I'm like, I know, but I deservedly look bad. But the thing is, I learned from that.

Yep.

Stand by the fact that it was. It's pretty funny. Depending, you know, it wasn't funny to her. And that became our first fight, was like, you think you're so funny. I was like, I did think I was funny. I recognize I was wrong. And we moved on.

Yeah. Yeah, I love that. And I mean, I put my foot in my mouth too many times. I love that story. I don't know if I can top that. I would just say from what I remember, our first year of dating is that's where we probably fought the most in our relationship. We had the most conflict because we. We're very different in many ways. And from what I remember, some of our bigger fights was Jess wanted to stay up late and I wanted to go to bed. And she didn't like that. She's like, why are you going to bed? It's 1am And I explained to her, because it's 1am that's when people go to bed. And in fact, this is way too late for Me, I will never do this again. And so those. Remember now, you know, and then you're 10 years together, you know, we're married. All these things. All of these things kind of go away because we know each other so well, and you don't. You don't get into those types of fights so much anymore, so. Yeah, but the majority of our conflict actually was probably the first year of just getting to know each other, which.

Is interesting, which makes sense on some level. Right. If you're openly communicating about your differences, that's when you're going to figure out most of the differences and most of the things you have to iron out. Yeah, right. It's like when people say they're not having any conflict during that first year, it's like, you're not talking enough.

Yeah.

Because there are things you're going to have to work out, like, who gets what side of the bed, and, like, how do you manage your toothpaste? Like, I don't know, do you share? Do you put the cap. Like, there's a lot of things you're going to work out.

Yeah, I totally agree.

All right, so the next question. People ask this a lot, which is. So, Adam, before you coach women, you coached men. What made you switch, and what do you think the main differences are?

Oh, that's a long. That's a long one. But I'll keep it short. I was coaching a lot of men, and I would have these boot camps where I would have groups of guys going out and I would help the guys that these ladies that are listening to this would never talk to. You know, the guys that really needed some work on their clothing and style, how to approach a woman, how to smile. They weren't trying to pick up women or anything like that. They were just trying to build their confidence. And I had a girlfriend at the time, and it was just. I got to a point where I'm like, there's no way that this is sustainable. And luckily, that coincided with an article that came out in Glamour magazine where I was featured in it. And so I got bombarded by women asking me all these questions, like, why do men pull away? What do men want? Yada, yada, yada. And I'm like, oh, I think I got this even better than. I think I can answer these questions even better for women than I would be able to on the flip side for men. And very quickly, upon releasing a little bit of content, things just blew up, like, million views videos on YouTube and things like that. It just, like, it snowballed from There very, very quickly. And I'm like, oh, this is the direction to go in. And I would say I really like women. Like, I just like working with women. I gotta say.

That's good.

I mean, I do. Like, they tend to be more empathetic than men. Men tend to be much more problem solvers, and there's a lot of research that backs that up. Men are the solvers. Women kind of see the more social nuance of things. So it's much more. I feel, like, intellectually stimulating, too. Like, for men. I have to, like, spell it out. Dude, this is what you got to do. This is what she's saying. It's like, I almost. It. It just wasn't. Whereas you talk to a woman, you can really get into the nuance of social situations and dating. That I just found to be very intellectually stimulating. But I should say, Gary, I kind of miss the coaching of men. It's been 15 years, and I don't know, who knows?

Men need some help.

Men need some help. So I'm, I'm. I love what we're doing. It's amazing. We're going to keep doing it. I mean, we are growing so much, but you never know. That might be a little teaser in the future. So we'll see. It's.

It's definitely something that the women ask all the time. Like, why can't you guys coach men to make them worthy of us, essentially? Is that, like, guys need a ton of help? Like, let's, let's. Can't you guys help them? It's like, yeah, we can. We'll see.

Well, after tens of thousands of clients at Love Strategies, we certainly have a lot of data and a lot of insight from the. The female mind that would be very interesting to share with men and show them how to step up their game. So that could be interesting. Gary, I see on your docket here that you were getting the questions. How did you get into studying relationships? That's interesting.

Yeah. And so for me, the whole relationship thing, when I was in college, I was a psych major, and I was sure I was going to do counseling. And then I did a couple of internships. And as much as I liked counseling, I. I just started, for me, the impact I was going to have just felt like it was limited, and I just felt like I was working really hard for certain clients who didn't want to work so hard for themselves with certain things. And I just kind of got off of the counseling side of things entirely. And I went to my academic advisor. I Said, yeah, I thought I knew what I wanted to do. It's my senior year, I change my mind. I do not want to do. I don't want to be a clinician anymore. And so she asked me, you know, what do you like thinking about? And we were like. I was comfortable enough with her that I just kind of laughed. And I said, well, you know, I'm a college guy, so girls, like, I like thinking about relationships and how to get into them, out of them, all that kind of, like, all that kind of stuff. And then I said jokingly to her, but you can't study that. And she said, funny enough, you can. And then the light bulb went off. And from that moment on, it was a September. It was a September day my senior year. And from that moment, I'm like, that's what I'm gonna do.

Love that.

And here we are.

And here we are. Here we are. And you're kind of account back to being a counselor as a coach, weirdly, right.

It's like, I always like that side, but it's like, it's just that, like, life has a funny way sometimes, right?

Absolutely. So being an academic in relationships and having created so much content and looking at what's out there as far as advice, what would you say is the worst relationship advice or myth that exists when it comes to dating? Relationships?

Yeah. Like, I think for something to be the worst advice, it's gotta be pretty common, right? There's a lot of bad advice out there, but a lot of it, you know, people don't hear that much. But the number one worst piece I think is there's such a thing as love at first sight. Like that whole first sight thing, you can feel like, you know, first sight is love. It's not love that's lust. Love is so much more than just, you know, your immediate visceral reactions to another person. And that's. Love is about fulfillment, it's about growth, it's about sustainability. And so you're not getting any of that at first sight. You really have to get to know somebody with compatibility, friendship, things like that.

I love that.

So what would you say?

The coach in me just hates the whole love won't. Comes when you least expect it. I just find it to be so unhelpful as far as advice. It's like, oh, you want to find love? Just sit back and hope that it come. Like, don't hope. I don't. I actually don't even know what it really means because, like, we have so much experience in coaching Our clients to get out there and find love. And so I believe that love comes when you have a strategy. I mean, it really does. And you take intentional steps to make it happen. I think if I could reword it, it would be love comes when you have a strategy and don't have an outcome dependent mindset. So it's basically get out there, find, find love, talk to a lot of people, but don't focus too much on the outcome of being in a relationship. But that's not as catchy. So, you know, it's too.

I mean, I'm just gonna say as a slogan. That sucks.

That sucks. Yeah, absolutely.

So you're right. Like, you can't, like, no, no one else does this with anything. Any other part of their life where it's like, oh, you know, I'm just gonna wait for my perfect career to fall in my lap. You have to go out and do something. So I, I think as our final question, this is kind of like a big picture, kind of a vision kind of thing, which is, if you've been doing this a long time, as have I, if you could change one thing about modern dating and relationships, what would it be?

You know, I hadn't thought of this up until this point, probably should have seen this question going into it. But if I could change one thing about modern dating and relationships, I would probably have to say.

Less of a.

Focus on the hookup culture and more of a focus on thinking 5, 10, 20 years down the line. Because, you know, I was dating my 20s, I was a part of it. I get it. Getting out there, hooking up with people, having a lot of fun. And that has become very kind of like mainstream idea that, like, that is a great thing to do. And I think are certain phases, maybe for a short period of time when you're exploring yourself sexually and so on, so forth. Okay, fine. But really changing that script to a focus on this stuff really matters. This matters more than your career. This matters more than where you live, like, who you end up with. That is the most important decision in your life and you don't want to do it casually. And so I think that this whole idea of like casual hookups, it just. Just reinforces this idea that it's actually not that important to me. That's kind of like how I translate it. So that's something I would change in the culture.

I couldn't agree more. And I think the related to that is that people somehow have taken this as a message that you need to spend your entire 20s screwing around and then you start getting serious in your 30s, and really all that does is put you 10 years behind. Like you're procrastinating on something that's really, really important. And. And the fact of the matter is how you date establishes the foundation for the relationship you're going to have. And so, you know, you see it a lot with some of the clients. It's like they screwed around in their 20s, maybe part of their 30s, then they just kind of looked at their partner and like, oh, I guess we have to make this work. They tried to make it work, and then it didn't work. And that's just that you're setting yourself up for prolonged failure in a way that just. This isn't ideal. Which actually pretty nicely brings us to the one that I. The one thing I would change is I think that one of the most common things I hear from clients who have been in our program about, I want to say about three weeks, it happens most, they say something to the effect of, gosh, I wish I knew this when I was in high school. This would have saved me so much pain, drama, and agony. And it's, I think. So the thing I would change about modern dating is when people learn about it. Because currently, when do they learn about it? Never. They never actually really do. And so what I would do to make all of this better is put into high school curriculum alongside sex ed, high quality relationship education, so all of our teenagers can start from a foundation of actually knowing what they're doing, what they're looking for, how to get it, and so they can live happy and fulfilled relationships.

I love it. Well, that fits within our mission here. I love strategies. So maybe more of a 2028 initiative. I love that. I love it. Gary, this was super fun. And for all those listening, if you've gotten a lot from this, we ask nothing more than maybe share it with a friend. Because not this podcast. Maybe maybe just not. Maybe not this particular audio.

This one first.

Yeah, yeah. This wouldn't be the one to start with, but, you know, if you've gotten this far, clearly you have been engaged with the podcast and all of our work. We would really appreciate that and we appreciate every single one of you who've been listening to us, and we are so excited. And Gary, we've got to do this again. When we hit 2 million, I'm in.

I love it.

All right, thanks so much, Gary. This is fun. And thank you all to all the beautiful ladies who are out there. And yeah, keep on getting out there and attracting love with strategy. I love it.

Thanks, Adam.