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In this excerpt from Episode 442, a guest (Speaker A) openly confesses having purchased sex and thereby contributed to human trafficking, expressing deep shame and a sense that this act represented a personal rock bottom. Nick Stumbo responds by contextualizing the guest’s behavior as a result of vulnerability, lack of guidance, and hormonal confusion. The conversation then shifts to a spiritual turning point: the guest describes seeing Christ, which transforms their outlook and ignites a renewed commitment to work against trafficking and re‑engage with the church. The dialogue highlights personal accountability, the role of faith in redemption, and a call to action to end human trafficking.

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