Terrence Howard & Modern Alchemy with Sean Clayton (@Abundance10000) | BassForge Podcast #001

Hey, it's me, your favorite TikTok Boy. I'm doing long form now. This is Base Forge hq. This is my recording studio, my podcast studio. I just built it. It's done finally. And I wanted to start the podcast with one of my very good friends, Sean Clayton from Abundance 10,000. He is one of the most well spoken dudes I've ever talked to in terms of esoteric philosophy. He's a good friend of mine and one of my neighbors here in Austin. So I figured no better guest to test this out on than Mr. Clayton himself. So we did this. But as you can see, it is still a very brand new, fresh studio. You can probably smell the plastic plants that I put all over the place here. The studio is where I record music. It's where I research cymatics. And now it is a podcast space for my friends in the esoteric and EDM music space to come and talk about their projects and talk about some weird shit that they want to talk about and everything in between. And I did my best. I did my best to set the cameras up and to get this thing set up the way that a podcast should be set up. But, you know, shit happens with the first episode. So I want to apologize for what you're about to see. The audio is great, the content is phenomenal, and I've edited some cool images in there. If you're watching this on YouTube, the cameras, on the other hand, are not so great. I don't have a Jamie like Mr. Rogan. I don't have producer. I am the producer. And so what I did was set it up and I hit record. And I now know that I need a little bit more gear. So I've ordered some more gear. But for this episode, you're just gonna have to put up with a little bit of technical difficulties. But needless to say, this podcast was amazing. So if you like listening to me rant and ramble and yap on TikTok, you're going to absolutely love this. I'm not going to waste any more of your time. Here's my good friend Sean Clayton and our discussion on esoterics, Terence Howard and everything. What's up, man?

What's up, brother?

What's up, dude?

It's good to be here, man.

Yeah, good to have you. The inaugural episode. I don't even know what I'm gonna call this, but Base Forge podcaster right now. And this is my good friend, Sean Abundance. 10,000, right?

10,000. Yeah. I was gonna add another zero, but.

I was about to ask you why the 10,000 and why not 20,000 or 100,000? What's the. What's the.

Well, there are no accidents in the universe. When I started with it, I wanted abundance.

Right.

Cause I do this abundance alchemy thing. And then I was like, it wasn't available. So then I was like, maybe it's abundance 10. And I was like, no, that's not big enough. And then I was like, okay, well, what number makes the most sense? So I was like, well, I. We're all fifth dimensional beings.

Yeah.

Right. So if I put a set of zeros behind that, that actually gets me to a construct of like five. Well, that kind of makes sense, right?

Yep.

So you got the 10 and then three zeros after that, which is five digits associating with the 10,000. And then in my opinion, and this is just my opinion, is that, you know, they even talk about the number zero and something we want to talk about the Terrence Howard and Eric Weinstein podcast. But the number zero, to me is a very powerful number because it's where the possibilities live. So the masculine aspect of the numerology is number one. So I start with that because I'm a man. And then the feminine four dimensional space that I choose to live in because of where we are in this age of Aquarius is what those other four digits stand for.

That makes a lot more sense.

Yeah. Than just 10,000.

Yeah. It's King be random. I gotta figure this out. But I was like, it's like, you're gonna have to explain this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was gonna be one and then I thought that was odd. It just. I kind of played with it for a while.

I mean, now the symbology of the layering makes sense.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I love what you do. I wanted to give, like a little context to that because we've hung out a couple times, and every time we hang out, we end up talking for like five hours straight. Yeah. Always need to talk more. But your. Your content. My content is very aligned. And I feel like this is, like, this is probably the best time to talk about what's going on, because again, Terrence is making everything that we talk about very popular right now. And I feel like it needs a little more context from people in the space, not only just Terrence, even though he's doing. Using his influence very effectively, I think that there needs to be a little more context because we just had Eric Weinstein on there. And when you're going up against one of the top scientists in the world, and Terrence is not in that world. It becomes a little difficult for the people on Terrence's side to back him up, because a lot of the things that he's saying is like what Eric was saying. He doesn't have the context in that world to kind of, you know, And I thought Eric was doing a great job at kind of bridging the gap there. But also, you and I, I feel like, can kind of add a little bit more substance to what he was saying. And I want to.

I want to explore that with you 100%. And what I also want to bring back is one, I have a relationship with Terrence, which is probably why we talk. We talk. 1. He does a great job of this, but my relationship with him, if you jump on, I have a podcast. If you jump on there, you'll listen to, like, a couple conversations. And I've helped him with a couple of things around Linchpin, even, like, resetting the branding and some things he wanted to do. Not to brag on that, but more so to give context to some of the nuances of where I'll be able to talk about how Terrence views the world. Yeah. From my witnessing of him. Right. And then in addition to that, you putting an actor up against a professor.

And a professional teacher, that was not okay.

That's like. It was interesting.

It was. Yeah.

But it was. It's. He doesn't have the same vocabulary.

Yeah.

Now, once again, Eric doesn't have the same vocabulary as Terrence has. Right. The, you know, the way that he studied Walter Russell.

Right.

The way that he studied everybody. Terrence has gone down that has built his model. That he's built. Is his model. Yeah. Is it math derived? No, it's very metaphysics derived. It's very physics ish derived. Right. But it's not mathematically derived. So you put him in a room with a mathematician that has some, like, you know, tangential alignment with string theory, which. Cool. That in itself is not a real recipe. It's like somebody speaking Chinese and English at the same point, and we're talking and there really isn't anything landing. It's not matching. Yeah, Yeah.

I feel like he. He did. Where they're coming from is the two different worlds we're talking about here. Is that the hyper materialistic world of, like, the science community, which is absolutely necessary. It provides us with everything that we need here. Right. But there's also the metaphysical world of what you and I live in most of the time, especially in our content, where we're talking about thousands of years of deep, deep, deep diving in the mind of the human from traditions that have been here for over 6,000 years and probably longer. So if we discount all of what they said, just because someone said it was a myth or whoever's opinion on that particular tradition, whoever's talking about it, discredits it, then we don't get the benefits of those. The thousands of years of what we've learned from, you know, just experimenting with living in the human mind before technology and before all the distractions and everything. So I think that was. That was a lot of the context that Eric needed. And then Terence just needs the vocab in his world, because I do think that Terrence is a polymath. I think that he can learn, and he could be in that world if he. If you use the right vocabulary, I think you would have a fighting chance.

Yeah.

That. That bridge, though, needs to be. I think there needs to be a good group of people on both sides. You know, if. If. If Terrence brought some. Some minds that are in our space on there, I volunteer as tribute. I'm sure you do as well. I would love to help with that. And. And Eric can bring on his guys. You know, he was talking about, you know, all his colleagues in the string theory, you know, field and all that, and that would be a really good discussion, especially if someone like Eric led it, because I. I think he did an excellent job at keeping it cordial.

Oh, yeah.

And making sure that Terrence felt heard because the community has turned on him. And I feel like that's really unfair. And Eric addressed that as well. He addressed the cutthroat nature of the scientific community, and that's, you know, that's where we're at.

But, yeah, and to your point, one of the things that I would say in addition to is that one of the beautiful things about witnessing Terrence, from the first time I met him to watching him on the first Joe Rogan podcast, to even some of, like, the crazy interviews with him with the big hair and all the other stuff, is the guy will ride the. He rides the astral plane. He is like, curve, space, time. I'm just gonna move through it. No linearity. And it's cool. It's cool to watch that rhythm happen. The. What he got trapped in the other day is he got trapped into a time loop. He got trapped into the linearity of. Of the way that the world sees things.

Yes.

And when you get trapped in that, you end up losing your purpose. You lose your stillness, and when you have that stillness and that knowing. I'm not saying he lost it, but I'm saying he got pulled into somebody else's stillness. Because Eric is very calm. Yeah. Like, his. He. He knows what he knows. He's comfortable and confident in his reality. He loves what he does. And you can tell. And he has a passion for it. And. But it is very linearly derived.

Yeah.

Like the math, the way that it's constructed, what he's learned. It's like, okay, well, I can go back to this book. I can go back to this book. Yep.

And he's got it on deck, too.

Yeah, he does.

Like, 40 years of reading all these books is not a fair comparison to Terrence's. You know, Terrence was an actor.

Right, Right.

A good actor.

And so, like, what I. What I love about Terrence is the fact that as. As studied as he is, but not studied at the level that Eric is. He has what he knows, and with the way he's able to articulate it and bring that out is magical.

Yeah.

And there are a lot of net new concepts and ideas that he's been able to bring forth that I challenge anybody else who's. Who else is bringing net new ideas forward right now that isn't based on something that they've learned. Like, like, oh, well, here's this. I'm gonna regurgitate and make it a little bit better.

Malcolm Mendel's only one I can think.

Of his even, like. So, you know, we were talking before we got on the. On the conversation here, but Claudia the rom, I encourage anybody to go research her. You know, she. That would have been a hell of an interview. Because she has thinks the same way about gravity that Terence thinks about it, but scientifically derived. She's a physicist. Right. She talks about the inhale and the exhale of the universe.

All right.

She talks about all of those different aspects that other individuals aren't talking about in the scientific community.

Yeah.

Take Dr. Robert Lanza, right. Have you read the biocentrism book?

No, I haven't.

Dude. Crazy shit. But the book on biocentrism takes in accountability. I would say, like the last 30 years of different scientific study. Like Robert Gissens study in 1997, where they proved out that there's something faster than the speed of light. Yeah, right. 20 times faster than the speed of light. Well, if that's the case, then that kind of, like, blows out a lot of Einstein's theories in some regard. Right. Doesn't mean Einstein was wrong. It just kind of blows him out of the water. Because it means that there's a different kind of energy in the universe in addition to that. If it's faster than that, it means that things happen instantaneously, which means that what we see is the sun, and what we see is light is automatically happening at that time. And it's a creation from what's within, not something that we're observing that's outside of us. Totally agree. So then you're like, okay, well, then what's happening with space time at that point? It's a creation and an instant moment of what's happening, which reinforces what Terrence is talking about. It's just. There are scientific studies about this that are sitting out there that nobody's talking about because it's inconvenient for the scientific community to talk about it.

And it's inconvenient to redo things that you've already like. Like what Eric was saying they have band aids for.

Right.

You know. Well, he's talking about the linchpin.

Yeah.

Where he's. He did weave the. The Platonic. I can't remember what he called it. There's a. There's a Pythagorean comma in. Into. Into the. The alignment of the linchpin.

Yeah. Yeah.

Because you have to. To make it work. If you look at it geometrically, the angles, the way you engineer it, it's not going to line up perfectly.

Yeah. Right.

So you have to add. And it's the same in music. You have to add this little step or this little bump to make it fit within that band. Right. So that's been kind of the method of science, this whole, you know, since up until now, which is not bad because we've made stuff that works. All of this stuff. We have the Internet in our pocket and everything that is from science, and that is the most useful. We wouldn't be connecting if that was the case, you know, so. So no one's knocking that. Right. Weird. What I want is a little bit more of an open dialogue to say, hey, what if this is. Because the way. The way you and I think. And I'm a very big proponent of hermetic philosophy.

Right.

And we. You start with the all is mind, and we start with. That basically means we start with consciousness first. Consciousness is what's creating this entire thing. Where science does not kind of throws that to the side. Like, we'll figure that out when it, you know, we have more data on it, but for now, we have to work in the real world. Again, fair point. But, but from the way that you and I operate it, from like the way we explain things is looking at it through consciousness first, and then the next one is everything moves, everything vibrates. So it follows a lot of what physics is already saying. And they can find a middle ground. And that's the way science and philosophy and religion and spirituality, they used to be one thing that was. It's only a modern thing where we've split it up, right. And the unification creates polymaths. That's what we're all trying to do. We're trying to create people that can look at something and be good at it or do something and be good at it. You don't have to have specialized skill. You can be good at math and music and physics and art and all of these things. You can do all of that because they used to be one thing.

Right.

That's my entire page is, is dedicated to making that a reality for more people.

Yes.

I feel like, I feel like a lot of people get stuck in a certain level because they're, you know, maybe they're not good at math or not good at English or they can't, you know, do certain things that when they were growing up, a teacher, teacher said you're not good at it. You know, that's not, that doesn't exist now we have the Internet. We have all these ways to learn. We have great teachers like, you can, you can actually do this. And I think the doors need to be open, like what Eric was saying with the academic community of, you know, let's welcome in these different ways of thought so that we can progress instead of like just pushing our agenda. Like what Eric was saying, where it's very politicized.

It really is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah. What's beautiful now about technology, like AI, right. People like, I'm so afraid of the machine. The AI is going to come. The AI gives you ability to become the polymath because you're not doing this old archaic work. That isn't necessary. It's not necessary for me to do mathematics anymore. Right. To actually add the things up.

That way you'll probably mess up actually.

Right.

If you did those math, you'd probably end up doing something bad for somebody.

Exactly, exactly. And so then if we can say, okay, let me, you know, they, they think. I don't know if they talked about it on this. It was another thing I was watching. We are fifth dimensional beings. Yeah. Kind of as I said before, we don't know how to measure the fifth dimension. Okay. We can measure space really easily because it's here. Okay. Our senses can do that. We can measure time. Ish. Because we created a clock.

Right.

And then we can get in the present moment, we can look forward and backward and put some measurement against it. Even though then all of a sudden, when you get deeper into time, it becomes relative.

Yeah. Is that really real or not?

And then they've even proven that time doesn't exist. Right. But when you start to measure spirit and you start to measure source, and you start to measure the astral plane, and you start to make that the measurement, that is what science should be going for.

Totally agree.

Right. Now, the problem with that is how do you do it? And where scientists live today is they don't know how because all they're looking at is what has given them credibility. And the. There was one part where they were talking about peer reviews and how that came about. And it's really a manipulation of a publication system that actually make a shit ton of money. So let's throw that out the window. And it should be just, you know, human review and what feels good to your soul. Right.

Right there with you.

Right there with you.

So that's because ultimately, at the end of the day, that's all that really matters. We're all going for that. We're even. We're making technology to make us feel better, to progress, to be more comfortable as a species. Like, all of it's working. We're working towards the same goal, but there's this imaginary problem that's not there.

Yeah.

And we all just need a little bit more understanding of where everything is coming from. Like, that's the goal. Everyone's like, why are we here?

What is.

What is this whole thing? Science is doing that. We're doing that 100. We're on the same path 100%.

And Walter Russell's work, you know, so. So if you, like, say, hey, I want to throw Terrence out the window because he's an actor.

Yeah.

I don't really like what he's talking about. He was a. He was a little bit off to me on that last interview. And the first one was cool, but I didn't really get it. Go read Walter Russell's books. Right?

Universal One. Yeah, yeah.

Universal One is fantastic. Listen to it.

Yeah.

It's. It's.

That in itself will help you start mapping back to the one, how things divide out into the universe, even the whole concept. Now, it's not an easy read. I mean, not at all. I think it took me like, two and a half months. I mean, I'm. I can read really fast.

I know.

You're a speed reader. Right? I. Really fast. I gotta go back and read it again because it's just a different kind of English.

And you have to look. It's. It's like those. Those Magic Eye books. We have to stare through the book to see the picture. I have to. When I look at his diagrams, I'm like, okay, what are you trying to convey? There's a lot of numbers and a lot of spirals and, like, what are you trying to say here?

Yeah, you got to look at it over and over again. But what's. What's cool about it is that, you know, it gives you some framework of somebody who was. Very much so. I think he was the Terrence Howard of his day.

Right.

Who was authenticated by Tesla, by Einstein. Right. By those individuals who are like the. You know, Eric Weinstein's right Now, is it Weinstein or Weinstein? It's one of the other. Yeah. Either way. But. But Eric. Yeah, but Eric. We're gonna say Eric. And you know, Eric looking at it. And Eric is peeking in.

Yeah.

You know. Did you listen to his other podcast?

I did.

You know, so Eric's peeking in. He's like, aliens may exist. Right. He's considering that there's something bigger than us. Right. He's breaking out of that linear construct, and he's bringing things to the table. Now, what he can do the most service to this community, which I feel like is a massively growing community at this point, like the meta and the.

Oh, man.

You know, the. The spiritual and the esoteric world and the mysticism world, like, it's exponentially growing too. Exponentially growing. Yeah.

I was gonna say I've never seen. So when I first came across your videos, I think you were maybe at like, 60K.

Yeah.

And I was like, dang, this guy's got some good animations. Like, content's on point. It couldn't have been, like, two weeks later. And then you're. You were past 100, and this was like. I was at, like, 140 or something on Instagram. And I was like, what the. Took me, like, six months to get to. In, like, two weeks, you're there. I was like, okay. But that's why, though, you're. Your. Your niche, too, is like a very. You've got a really good grasp on the philosophical side, which is so useful to people. And what. What you say is, like, genuinely helpful for real world life problems, you know, I Talk about a lot of stuff that's like, you know, this is pyramid stuff.

Being able to see the code, like, you show, like your thing. Like, you know, when you think about, like, the Matrix, the movie.

Yeah.

And being able to go in and, like, fuck with the architect and see the code, like, you're showing people, like, here's the code that was left for us.

Yeah.

Here's how this stuff works. Here's how everything was created. Here's the cymatics of it.

Yeah.

Here's how you can carve through stone, like you are able to display what that looks like. And so such a meaningful way. I don't know what I hear, like, to stroke each other, but it needs all of that, right?

Totally.

And you're so well read and so well versed that you can go back and be like, no, it's right here. Right. And for me to even have confidence in what I'm saying, also, I back it up with science. So I can go out and fuck with James Gates. Right. I can jump into Dr. Robert Lanzo, or I can jump into Claudia de Romm, or I'm looking at new science. Because as much as Einstein can be useful, you know, the Gisson studies in 97, there's another one in 2007 where they did another version of it and even blew it out even more. I mean, this whole speed of light thing is out.

I know, right? There's a lot of things that are on shaky, shaky ground right now.

Exactly.

Gravity's always been on shaky ground. Light speed has always been kind of like, iffy. But we got this, these, these work kind of. Let's use this. And then, you know, we've got, we got to space now. We're right. It did a lot, but, but foundationally there's a lot of problems.

Right?

Like, and there's, but there's also a lot of similarities too, because, like, the physics world, like, energy cannot be created or destroyed. You know, that's, that's a sin. That's reincarnation. That's, that's basic concepts. And spirituality too, like, is. You never, you never leave. You're still. You just go back to being, being part of the one. You know, like, you reintegrate and then you disintegrate and then you just keep doing that. And that's how you experience yourself as, as the universal one, 101 way. And the way that we say it is that. And then the way that science says it is another thing. And that's, that's perfectly fine.

Right.

But I Think the progress, the, the real progress is going to be made because the scientific community is like the top tier. They have their own language, they have their own communities. Community, they have their own hierarchy of university stuff. Like there's, there's, they're their own world. So same as ours.

Right.

But their world is, has been closed off for so long that I don't think that a lot of this stuff lands because it used to be very, you know, people always call it woo on mice. Yeah, I'm like spiritual, whatever. Like I, I always thought that too, but, but once you start digging into it, you're like, oh, this maps to this, you know. Yeah. The concept here can, can actually build my, my understanding of this, you know.

Right.

And vice versa. Like if you discover something new in science and you have this concept that, you know, you see on one of your, your Tiktoks and, or Instagram reels, like that's, that's the value right there. You know, the concepts are cool and it's all fun to keep them in your head and have them as the facts. But like, what are you going to do with it in your life? Is that improving you at all or.

No. 100%.

Yeah.

And it's, I would love to see. And this is, you know, me, I'm calling out to. Because, because I honor these scientists so much.

Right.

A lot of the woo woo communities, like, you got to get away from it because you don't want to fold into the foundation. No, they're going to serve the foundation because, you know, Terence talks about a thing around straight lines, and straight lines are an abomination because it's missing the mark.

Yeah.

You know, because it's a, it's a, it's a. What did he say? In a process approximation of the actual reality, which is when you don't move in a straight line, when you don't, movement occurs. Well, take that concept and then map it to the story of Christ where he was in the desert with the devil for 40 days and 40 nights and overcoming sin. Well, if sin is missing the mark and that's the straight lines, and Christ was walking through and saying, hey, Satan, get behind me. He didn't say get away from him, he just said get behind me. So he could be like, hey, let me lead you and show you where to go. So if that's code for what's to happen, and that's a fifth dimensional connection with spirit, then is it not possible that the scientific community needs people like us and others to be able to lead Them in the aspect of linearity or straight line, or sin, if you wanted to call it that. And we're all in sin because we were all constructed off of it, but to this fifth dimensional element which allows us, us to actually unify and then create this new possibility.

But I think you're more. You're more of a translator. So I would say the same thing. It's more communicating those ideas, those complex ideas, like what Terrence is saying, what science is saying, and communicating that to the people that one maybe can't afford a six figure education or two had no interest in sitting in a classroom for six months staring at a whiteboard and a teacher that's on, you know, he's on retainer, whatever that's called. He's there forever. He's there forever. He doesn't have to care about the suit. Tenure, tenure, tenured.

There you go. Close to retainer.

He has tenure, tenure.

Yeah, I was thinking ot, I was.

Like, okay, there it goes. It's not the right word.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not a retainer.

Side point. There's. There's a funny thing. I have a. I have a Bible on my bookshelf too. And that one of my friends, good friend of mine, he was like, you know, if you read the Bible and you just replace sin with sign, it makes sense because sign is the wave. And you say, if you say like what you were saying, you know, saying, get behind me. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's forging that straight path when you have the chaos of the wave behind you, you know, you can, you can look at it so many different ways. And there's like 15 layers to the Bible, 100% and. But there's different. There's cool perspectives to look at it. And now every time I go through the Bible and I see sin, I'm like, does it, does that mean sign? Is it the wave? Are you talking about the wave?

Yeah. Well, and here was another thing. So on the, on the. There's so many things that I remember when it came up, and I'm like, terrence, we should have said this or we should have said that. Like, I think you were, you were telling me you were like yelling at the screen. You know, it's like, come on. But there's one point when they were talking about the number zero. You remember that part of it?

I was going to bring that up, actually.

Do you want to start with it?

No, go.

They were talking about the number zero. And. And Terence was like, you know, the number zero doesn't exist because it doesn't hold anything. Right. And then what did Eric say? He called it a. He said it's an empty. Empty function or empty. I forget what he called it, but he called it empty set. Empty set. So he called it an empty set. And so it has utility when it comes to mathematics. Well, it also has utility in the real world. Right. But what I can say, though, is that even the example that he gave to Terrence and he was like, how many times do you take a China baby? And do I forget what the whole example that he gave was, Go over to China and do this whole thing. He's like, zero. Well, actually, that's not true. What's true is that the fact that he spoke it into existence and Joe witnessed it. Right. And Terrence witnessed it. Actually created a potential reality that's now manifesting itself.

Right.

Either here in the astral plane.

Yeah, exactly.

So the reality of it is there was no zero. I mean, that would have been. My retort to Eric is like, you just actually created the potential.

There was a zero before he said it.

Yeah, before you said it. Right. But the zero is the potential that exists. But the minute that we speak it into existence or we think about it, all is mine. Right. Any of these things, it becomes a reality.

That's a thing.

Right.

Make that like a real world example. Because, like, you know how you're in a relationship and then you're. This is like a young person thing, especially dudes are like, oh, it's my girl cheating on me. You know? And then you, like, put that out into the world, and then it makes. It makes your partner, like, almost want to manifest it. Not in a. Like. Like a. They're plotting against you since.

But.

But you put it out there, and then the moment you start being, you know, crappy to her, she's like, well, I mean, he already expects me to be cheating on him. Might as well do that. You made it happen. Like, you created that. Like, there's no doubt in my mind that whenever that happens, that guy created it.

Exactly.

100% chance.

A thousand percent. Yeah. And so there is. So to Terrence's point, there is no zero, zero. Because anytime you speak something into existence, it becomes a reality, a version of reality. It creates the potential of it existing because now it's starting to be manifest, whether in the past, present, or the future, because there is no time. So from that perspective, you can't say that there is a real zero value in the existence of humanity at all. Right. Even if I said I didn't do it. That fact out there creates. There's a possibility because everything lives in superposition, that it exists somewhere else.

Yep.

Because what I didn't do was done somewhere.

Yep.

Right.

Yep.

I mean, and so that's why we have to be. You know, there's a thing in the Bible around vain repetition or be careful with your words. All these other things. We got to be real careful with our words because that creates the echo. The thought creates the actual possibility. And we got to be careful with our thoughts.

I was about to say that's just as important.

Yeah. I think we're about to get on to something here. So the measurement of spirit is. Can we not measure the actual thoughts and how often they become the reality? And then at which point, this whole concept between the zero and non zero, the construct. Like, to me, the construct around time, the construct around math being the manipulative thing. Because even the fact of zero being able to cancel things out or eliminate something.

Yeah.

Is not accurate. You can't. The energy is either created or destroyed. So the physics. There's no physics. Mathematics really doesn't work in physics. Even though we try to make mathematics works.

Yeah.

In the whole quantum space. Which it doesn't. So I think that's where it goes. Not even. I think that's where it goes out the window. And so then you take somebody, like a amazing mathematician who can manipulate space time. Right. Which is awesome. Let's. Let's fuck with that. Right. Bringing it in with somebody like Terence, who's saying, hey, this is all universally aligned.

Yes.

And let's stop manipulating space time. Let's move within the curvature of space time because it should be fluid. How do you put that together? Now, that's an interesting conversation that should have been had. Like, putting those two together.

There's many. So, so many routes. They could have gone for it, too. And I think they did have common ground, especially there, because. Okay. Like, physics and math breaks down when you're. When you're going into. So my. My content from here for the next probably month is going to be very, very based, focused on the new alchemy that Malcolm Bindle's working on. And they just did testing. Are you familiar with this work, dude?

I mean, tell me about it. Cause I've heard a little bit. But. No, break it down a little bit.

So he led with Randall Carson brought this up on Joe's podcast. Said there was a technology being developed that was gonna revolutionize pretty much the whole world.

Yeah.

And this was what Malcolm Bindle was working on, and I've been following it for at least a year now because this guy, really cool dude named Jordan, has a channel on YouTube called Alchemical Science. Definitely check it out. He explains it very well. But what Malcolm did is he made a device that you can retrofit on any gas burning engine. It could be diesel, it could be anything. And cuts the emissions down to zero. And out the tailpipe comes atmospheric oxygen.

Interesting.

So the process that goes on there, one, the technology is amazing, first off. But the process that goes on there is original OG alchemy.

Yeah.

It's, it's creating what's called a plasmoid inside these little spheres that he has on the, that you just bolt onto the motor. Pretty much.

Yeah.

You can, you can make one yourself right inside of that. The reaction that goes on, literally it's called a plasmoid. It looks like a torus. And these little, they're super, super small. And when they release energy, they can be used as fuel or they can be used to transmute, literally transmute, transmute matter into other matter. Whole process that goes on. But there's been extensive testing around the world. Like seven countries I think now have tested it. A bunch of DIY guys have tested it.

Right.

It's actually going on. So they sent the, they sent a piece of this sphere into a scanning electron microscope.

Yeah.

To analyze what matter was coming out. And so it depends on how, how the spheres are tuned. And there's a whole bunch of mass that I'm not 100 familiar with yet. But when they did the testing, they got a whole bunch of rare earth materials like gold, titanium, platinum, but also a whole bunch of other elements they weren't expecting. And what they tested was the carbon. Because when they pull the carbon out, that's how we date things. Right? Carbon dating with carbon 14. When they tested the carbon that came out of these plasmoids that were, that are used for fuel and Transmutation, they were 33,000 years years old. The carbon should have been brand new because it's. Or it should have been at least the age of the fuel that it was coming out of. Right. But it was 33,000 years old. So basically this throws into question the carbon dating metric of, you know, dating things, because maybe it has a good, it's never been like the most accurate, but a whole bunch of monkey wrenches have been thrown into, into this model that we have of physics. And what Malcolm is doing is he's, he's modulating. So you have you know, frequency is work over time. Right, Right. What Malcolm is doing is modulating the time by using the torus. So on the outside, imagine a Taurus outside of the Taurus goes slower than the inside of the Taurus. Right, Right. So when you symmetrically compress what he's doing in the motor, when you symmetrically compress these little air bubbles, ionized air bubbles, water bubbles, you shrink down the time it takes to do work. So he's. He's modulating the time it takes for this plasma to convert a really bad gas into something that's usable, a material that's usable. Right, right. So. So this new technology is all about modulating the time. Instead of what we do right now is, you know, with burning coal plants or whatever, however we generate electricity, it's all based on how much you've seen turbines on. These power plants are freaking huge. Right. How much matter can we get and how much work can we get it to do to generate this power for us? Malcolm is taking a different approach and saying, well, that seems like a lot of work. Let's just mess with the time. Let's just modulate the time. And so back to what you were saying. We don't really understand what's going on here. We don't understand a lot about, like, the sun. We don't understand a lot about all of these things that have to do with time. Black holes. There's stuff that works on Earth and works for us now.

Right.

But who's to say, like what we were saying earlier, who's to say we're not in a reality where we can shift a little bit and, you know, that the world becomes great again because we know now how to modulate time.

Yeah.

And I think that's the path that we're going on. And what I wish. I really wish Terence would also look into this too, because this is the. This is the science, the backing. Because Malcolm has open Source research on strike foundation.org I think.net or.org all his work is published. He patented everything and then made it open source.

Right.

So all of it's there for you to look at all of the test results. And it really does fortify what, what Terrence is saying. It's. It's literally the proof that he needs to. To he could bring that up to Eric and actually have a fighting chance at it. There are people working on this and there are people that can explain it.

So, I mean, pull that up. No, I'm kidding.

Yeah, dude, I need it. I need a J.

Right Pull it up.

Next time.

I know. Next time. No, that's funny. Is it always 33,000 years?

I think it varied, but the average that they tested was 33,000.

Okay.

This interesting number, though.

Yeah.

Interesting number. Interesting that it threw it back that far because.

Yeah.

I mean, it really could have been anything. You could. You could have said it was, like the age of the fuel that they used or something. But, like, if you're burning dinosaurs, that's millions of years ago. Why is it 33,000 years ago? That doesn't make any sense.

Yeah. So I got something. Something like when you were saying that something started to drop in. I do this. All right, so check this out. Time is an illusion. It doesn't exist. Right. So when we start measuring things, it really is code.

Yeah.

Okay. So the code that we got with that, I would. I would love. I got to research some of this more. The number 33 is no accident. Right. And for those of you that don't know the Christmas consciousness number and whatnot. It's a key. And then you have this really long extension of time in the quantum world. You have for superposition. For those that don't know, superposition is that something exists in multiple states at the same time. So if alchemy is the process of transmuting something to another. Then is it not going to another dimension or the other superposition aspect of that future fuel? Right. To then grab it from somewhere else and then move it through? Right. And is that not time travel? Ish.

That's what I'm saying.

To then.

Yes.

Collapse that wave function of possibilities into a new space. And then throw it back out. And then there's no accident. If it was. If it's 33 every time or the average is 33, that's bananas.

I have to look at it. When I heard that, too, I was like, no freaking way. Because my mind immediately went up to. We talked about 33 and flower life last time. And like, you know, vector, matrix, all that stuff. But. Yeah, but. Okay, go. Going on that point, you know. You know, we had. We did a whole bunch of nuclear tests, right? Nuclear bomb tests. Right. It literally disintegrates matter from wherever the nuke exploded. Right, Right. What if it's pulling it from another reality where that nuclear bomb was exploded over a big pile of carbon. And it was like, well, it's gone here. We'll give it back to these guys. Like, swapping it out like that Is that not. That doesn't. To me, that is like, okay, that could definitely be what's going on? Because if you think about how everything is entangled and all of that, like there should be a pathway to swap out that stuff. Right. So. So what exactly is going on when that happens? Where is the. Are we opening up a wormhole? Are we doing this? Is the stuff that I'm like, I watch a video every day to try and understand this area because I'm like, I'm going to get this, I'm going to understand it. Yeah, but, but it's so fascinating that that's like, that, that is the. Where we're at right now is literally modulating matter and using time as the variable to do that.

Right.

It's insane.

Right. When you. And when you have the tool to adjust the frequency, which is like in Walter Russell's periodic table, talks about the octaves, which are the tones. Right.

I'm pulling this up for you. I'm going to show you this. I had the table.

Yeah. Oh, do you? I got it.

Okay.

The new table.

The new table. There's another new table.

Malcolm Bendel's work is the next evolution of Walter Russell's. Yes.

And he has a new table. Yes.

It's way. No, it's way better too. It's so much easier to understand.

Is it the blue one and like the blue and yellow one?

No, it's not. It's. My content now is actually absolutely insane. I'm so getting organized with this podcast, but now my actual content, there's just so much floating around everywhere. Your. Your guys are actually helping quite a bit.

We're about to put the link of this.

Okay, check this out. So this is the new one. That's the anatomy of the plasmoid that he.

This right here?

Yes, that one right there. And there's a bigger one on the bottom if you want to look at that. So the Walter Russell's was right there. Yeah, that was the. The wave one.

Yeah.

And maps to a torus. It's that. Yeah.

Interesting. All right. Have you studied. Have you studied the whole concepts around like the crystals, you know, it's like broken down into crystals. So you take like quartz, right. Which is, you know, it's silicon and oxygen.

Right.

You take salt, you know, which is, you know, sodium and chlorine. And if you look at those on Walter Russell's table, they literally like are kind of like where they need to match or like if you put the structure together, then it creates the crystalline structure really to like it perfectly lines up and generally they're an octave apart.

Yeah.

So what it does is crystals are bridging octaves tones together. So like say the universe is tonal.

Yeah.

It's like, you know, it's creating the tones is what Walter talks about. The tone stem from the light. So it's like goes from light to sound. The sound then turns into, you know, the reality. So it's the progression of the wave function into being to collapsing into reality. Right. And then those two things are in different octaves. So it's literally bridging dimensions or octaves together using the same. Because it's all the same energy. And then those lock into crystal structures. So. So we are walking crystal structures because we are stable structures moving through reality as a particle being constructed from the wave function of very. Because the thing about us, we got a whole bunch of shit going on inside of us. Right?

Yeah.

With various different dimensional or octaves that are stacking these things up into our reality. And so what we have the ability to do just with thought alone. Sound like Dr. Joe right now. But with thought itself is have the ability to then start to out. We have the ability to create that alchemy within ourselves physically, health wise. Like we are the same thing that you're talking this right here, this Malcolm Mendel that was talking about. And what Malcolm seems like he's discovered, you know that tool. I gotta look at this shit.

Yeah, I'll send it to you.

Is this whole ability for, you know, you could take trash that we consider trash that's hurting us. Throw it through a Taurus field, it travels through time. And then it basically finds its match and throws out the other side. So it's almost like a crystal. Like because that's a stable structure here. It's uncoupling it to the point you're talking about and then recoupling it back. But it found a portal and a way for it to actually pass through by using.

That's almost exactly how he explained cleanse it. Right. But what he's doing here. Yeah, I'll break it down just a little bit more.

Awesome.

So he, he. When these bubbles compress, he uses ionized water. Right. And there's a paper. I'll probably link it in this. But it's. It's water can. Can facilitate nuclear reactions. Right. When we're talking about the nucleus of an atom.

Yeah.

So when you symmetrically compress the water bubble. It becomes this torus, that shape right there. And when it does that, the outside pops and you have this core. There's a core and that's the plasmoid that's what does the work.

Okay.

This core is shaped like a. Like a lemon.

Yeah.

When it pops, the. The. It's. It's a water bubble. Right. So you have hydrogen and you have oxygen.

Right.

The. The negative and positive sides of the plasmoid are. It's either oxygen facing out or hydrogen facing out.

Yeah.

But when it pops, the. The molecule gets disassociated. Whatever matter is around those free ions. I want to say they're ions. I have to double check this. Whatever matter is around there, it uses the matter in the immediate vicinity to recombine, as well as the added energy from the modulation of time, if that makes sense.

Yeah.

So we've used the energy from the plasmoid and the material around, plus what was in the water already, to recombine into a new element.

Right.

But it's also doing this thing where it goes. It kind of pops out of time for a second and does something that we don't know and comes back. And then we have platinum or something.

Right.

So. So there's a lot of, like. And I'm sure someone else could do a way better job, but this is amazing. No, it's. It's real. That's why I'm so. I freaked out when I first did it. I went out there and I was like, baby, we got a dinner. I gotta think about this, because this is wild.

Okay. Okay. So now this brings me back to. To. I'm gonna go back to the actual podcast, the Brogan podcast. Not that I want to harp on it. People are like, dude, you're totally dick riding Terrence. Because, like, I bring him up a lot. He just gave us. He gave us some attention. Yeah, he did. Face it. We. It was well deserved. And I love the criticism on it. And then people like you, I, and other individuals are gonna come around him and love this thing, and maybe he's not, you know, the. The leader in it.

It.

Right. And there is no leader. He's just the part of the puzzle that allows it to get where it needs to go. But back to the podcast. Eric was talking. Terence brought up super symmetry, and Eric was like, no, that's not super symmetry. Right.

Yeah.

And I contest.

All right, let's hear it. So there's two.

To me, there's a philosophical supersymmetry, there's a metaphysical supersymmetry, and there's like a super symmetry that I call Christ consciousness.

I like that.

Okay.

I like that explanation.

And then there's. Yes, there's a mathematical supersymmetry that has this whole like whatever the kind of algebra he was talking about. I looked into it.

Just the numbers.

Yeah, yeah. Which there's that supersymmetry and you know, the fermions and bosons and how that works at the subatomic level. Well, if it works at the subatomic level, it has to work at the macro level.

Of course.

Right. And what that means is that even though the illusion that we live in doesn't look super symmetrical, it's very super symmetrical because it's tied to the zero time point. Yep. Right. And what you're talking about with Malcolm Bendel, right, is when it does this thing and it collapses down and it pops, Right? Yep. That is it folding all of space and time from its perspective into super symmetry of zero point time, which is Christ, consciousness, everything.

Yeah.

An example. Right. And then it's like, okay, now I need to release. There's a death of that. Right. And then there's a recycling of it.

Yes.

The death of it opens the door to new dimensions, new possibilities because it creates the superposition in real time of anything to happen. And then it says, okay, now I'm going to move back into coherence because I've been. All of the trauma, the bad gas, whatever it might be, has been released. No different than Christ dying on the cross. All the sin has been released. If we want to take that example, in our death, all of the trauma has been released and we go back in the source. The same fucking thing.

Yep.

Okay. So it all collapses into the zero point, releases it. Then what happens is the energetic potential doesn't die. It's going to then go in and grab literally every potential harmoniously. That makes the most sense because it's born again. And then boom, here it is.

You don't know something even weirder that supports your point. You're gonna freak out when you see this. You're gonna freak out. I have to make a better one because it's, it's. This one's not as, as nice as I want it to look, but. Okay, so the plasmoid has a geometry, Right. It's a torus, but it literally takes in matter from its butt.

Yeah.

And then it craps out new matter. Right? Yeah, but that, that symmetry, you can literally calculate the tr. The trajectory of where it's going. Right. It has an orientation. Cuz it's a Taurus.

Yeah.

So to map that out and to make a diagram, to make that, that Taurus that he assigned all the elements to, there's a 2D version of that. So if you have the donut and you cut it, there's a 2D version. This is what the 2D version looks like.

Get the out of here.

No, I'll put that on. I'll put that on.

You got to put that on there. I am.

Yeah.

That is bananas. I just got chills, bro. Yeah, right?

Hold on, hold on. You. I'm not done yet.

Okay. It's all code, bro.

It also.

Wow.

Lines up perfectly with ank. Yeah.

Okay.

And then if we put. If we put the yin yang in there. That one's a pretty obvious one, but, yeah, it lines up.

It lines up with that.

So we have. Yeah, we have three. Three really solid data points right now. And then if you want to Look, I don't. I'm not sure how into alchemy you are or how much you know about it, but there's another one, very famous alchemy drawing this one. And it's. You see it where the circles line up? It's the sun and the moon. Yeah. And it lines up perfectly. They're all talking about the exact same thing. Yeah. That's why I'm like. It's. It's an encoded, layered thing.

Dude, that's crazy.

Wild, right?

That's crazy.

Yeah.

Okay. All right, all right. Yeah. This. Yeah. So, like, my. My thing that I talk about now is. We talked about this bit a little with this. This Masonic code. And what is that code? That's been. That's the. This is what we're talking about right now is this Masonic code that's left in front of. That's been left behind us. I mean, you take time. There was no zero point that they were counting down to before Christ. No. Okay. In B.C. whatever you want to call it. And I'm not trying to. I'm not sitting here for anybody in the religious space. I'm not trying to sit here. Put Christ on the pedestal. Has nothing to do with. That has to do with the consciousness of what?

Christ is a concept.

Right.

Jesus is the religion. Christ is a concept of consciousness.

Exactly. Yeah. That's what we're talking about. And nobody's counting down to zero. So then who established that? Why was it established? And if you've ever. There's a. There's a thing out there, and I'm not. I'm not. I'm not overly subscribed to it, but I love it. There's a thing called Messiah 2030. Have you watched this?

No, bro.

It's like six hours of YouTubing you.

Give me more four plus hour homework, I'm gonna be pissed.

Sean, there are, I think there's 65 different prophecies. Right. Of exactly when the second coming of the Messiah is based on the time of the first one. And that zero point of what it means. Now, the structure that they put into it threw me off a little bit. But also there's one structure. When they finalized it, it ended up looking just like Walter Russell's cosmological clock, like his cosmic clock. Right. Which then maps to the same thing. And it's like this whole deal that is the exact same thing as that. And I'm like, okay, well, this is all code for this zero point of what Christ consciousness stands for. And what I always say is that there isn't one Messiah. Right. That we are all collectively the Messiah. We just haven't figured out how to work together. Right. And this is just an example of, you know, the Eric and Terrence podcast we got to figure out to work together. Yeah. There should be an honoring and a respect for every single person's unique abilities. Even the homeless person has purpose. Right.

What is the purpose of the whole thing? In this ancient traditions? It is the universal mind splitting itself, fractalizing itself into multiple ways of observing what it actually is.

Right.

That's what everyone needs to do now. That's the. That's the point. The point of it is to bring all of these perspectives in here so we can get an accurate view of truth.

Yeah.

We're all working towards that.

Yeah.

And that. It's funny you said the Christ part of that, because in alchemy, there's. The dominant factions of alchemy were under the Christian flag. Right. Because of the Holy Roman Empire. But alchemy was always about turning lead into gold. Philosophically and in reality.

Yes.

They could not be separated. You couldn't. You couldn't focus on turning lead into gold in reality, if you did not have the philosophical and spiritual discipline to focus your mind on what this. What's going on. This is complex stuff. This is. This is the highest level stuff that you can learn. This is the stuff about the universe. How are you going to do that if you're worried about, like, what. What your partner doing or eating or getting a job.

Right.

You have to start with that. That consciousness part first and then move up into this stuff. They're one. They have to work together.

And the only way that I could possibly turn lead into gold is not through me vibrating the fuck out of it. Right.

Okay.

Not gonna happen. Try it has nothing to do with that. Is by me being able to pierce the space time veil.

Yeah.

The only way. The only way I pierce that space time veil is moving into spirit, becoming so still and present that I have the ability to understand that that gold is also the lead. Right. And when I observe it through the process of observation, then it changes its reality.

Yep.

That's it.

There's a. What was the be still another. I am. Was the know that I'm there and I am God. That quote. And also the. If you. Oh man. Who said that? I'm blanking on this quote. But the. The only way that you can actually get connected with higher level thinking is to still the mind. You. You had to. Or just to basically still your whole body. Even in ancient Egypt you had to fast for like three days and then before you did any sort of initiation.

Yeah.

And you had to be pure. Absolutely pure. It's all an alchemy. You had to purify like all of it is this. They're talking about the same thing. Exactly. Is being calm, being clear headed and having pure intentions unlocks the gateway. Then you have a direct way of getting that information because you can use the full power of your mind and not worry about everything else going on and focus in on that central part of the torus.

Yeah.

And then boom. Doorways unlock.

And then the way your point and to that the way you observe yourself, it starts to shine through because you become the channel. And then the way everybody else observes you starts to be like, okay, that's consistent. This is how telepathy works.

Totally.

When you know yourself so fucking well that you know how the world sees you because you're creating them and they're creating you back. But your energy is in such high vibration that it's like, okay, I know how they see me. I don't have to question it.

I would say that's more that telepathy is authenticity is like the connection to authenticity.

Exactly.

That telepathy is. Is knowing who you are so well that transmits it in the most authentic way possible to the entire world. And then they confirm that by viewing you and being like, oh my God, you're the best.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know who you are. Because you know who you are.

Trust. Everything is built on that too. Like if someone's shady, they don't convey that. If someone is a snake, they don't convey that. That's the whole point of being authentic is knowing that. Like when I first. Like when I first met you too, I could Feel no bad bone in your body.

Yeah.

And I feel that with a lot of. I don't really associate with people that aren't like that, you know, but like, you can immediately feel that with somebody and that's really hard to. How do you put that in a data set? How do you put that in? How do you quantize that feeling?

You.

You know, if I'm walking down the street and someone gives me a really crazy look, I'm gonna probably avoid them. Yeah. But the moment, like you meet somebody who you can. That conveys that energy in a way that's non verbal and it's something about it. You just feel it. That's what we're talking about.

That's what we're talking about. And that's. You know what? I hate hierarchies, But I love them.

Because I can't stand necessary.

No, they're necessary, you know, for, for our understanding.

Yeah.

I was in Peru for, for my honeymoon the other, you know, the other week. Yeah. Yeah. And the coolest thing, like people down on polytheism. I'm gonna get to what we're talking about because I always do this. And they're like the God of, the God of, the God of, the God of. You know, they've got Pachamama and they've got, you know, the snake and the puma and the condor and like all of these stand for different things. And they see the God of everything. And I'm like, you know what I think they meant it's the God in everything.

Yes.

They see the God literally in everything. They praise everything. If you got attacked by a puma, it's a blessing, you know, if you, you know, you're. Something horrific happened. God is the God of that. Like, they see it in everything. So there's part of it that's like, hey, self preservation is key because you don't want to get attacked by puma. Right. Because it's rough. But also the fact that they saw that as a blessing is also really beautiful.

Yeah.

So it's like. Yes. And like the, the fact that, like, hey, there's a person on the street. It's kind of creepy that if I walk by that person, there's that. But then I have to say, why am I observing that person in reality?

Yeah.

Why am I, Why am I witnessing that person? Because there's something also in me that created them.

Yeah.

For me to witness that part of it could be like, okay, yeah, I've got something in my parasympathetic nervous system. I Need to work on a little bit. So I'm gonna, like, kind of pivot. Pivot around. Let me go home and work on that. So next time I see them, I'm going to send them love and see that I can surrender them. Right. So it's never a space to where we want to judge ourselves of how we view the external world as better or worse. It's just the opportunity for us to be like, okay, when you find soul tribe, you find brothers and sisters that align. It's being able to resonate with them and expand and expand and expand and creating what I call entropy, which isn't chaos. It's just expansion of the energy so that we can create more space in between so people find where they fit. That is the magical aspect of being human that we've so forgotten about.

You can't even find your soul tribe first, though, unless you initially resonate with that, though. You can't. The mirror. When you see a reflection in a mirror, you can't wait for the mirror to smile back at you. You have to smile first, and the mirror reflects it to you.

Yeah, right.

You can't find your tribe. You can't find who you are authentically until you make that decision of, okay, I am going to. I am gonna do this. I'm gonna. I'm gonna just be me, and then whatever happens, happens. You know, that's. That's a huge part. Letting go, shadow integration, all of that stuff, you know, comes into one thing. But at the end of the day, it is a conscious decision. If I. If I go out tonight and I am aligned with. I'm gonna have the best night of my life tonight. I'm gonna talk to everybody. I'm gonna. You know, I'm gonna have a. Have the best night ever. I'll probably have an 80% good night, you know, but if I go out, I'm like, I don't want to go out. I just need to get out of the house. I'm do that. You know, you're gonna have that night, too. Yeah, so. So it is literally a conscious decision every day that you walk out the door. And I feel like this is probably. This probably good note to leave it on, too. Every day you walk out the door is like, align with what you. You're actually trying to do here. Align with. Like, today even. I was like, I took my car in to get service. I was like, everyone's. Everyone's in a good mood. Concierge today was in a great mood. I was like, this gonna be a Good day. Sean's coming over. It's gonna be sick.

Yeah. Yeah.

And so far, it has been. It's probably gonna be a 90% good day today. Like, but I'm on it. But then there's those days where you're just like, you know what? This is gonna be a bad day. And you make that the bad day. You know, that's. It's all. It's. It's all you. But ultimately, what. What do you want people to. To get from. Not only, like, what we talk about here, but your project on Instagram and. And everywhere. What. What, you know, else are you doing, and what do you want people to get from it?

So.

So. So for me, it's My focus is that people. We remember who we are, okay? We have lost who we are so much. And what's cool about the work you're doing, the work, I'm doing, the work of this community. Even, like, Austin's like, just real. It's like a breaking bucket of, like, you could shoot a fish. You hit a spiritual person. We should have shoot anyway.

Yeah, throw a rock. That's it.

Throw rock.

Shoot a fish. You can shoot a fish and probably get a spiritual person.

But Texas, they shoot fish.

Exactly. But. But it's. It's.

It's.

It's really for us to. There's a set of us that have to come together to create the core.

Right?

Then it's like, okay, how do we create the entropy or the expansion of that core so that people can see a version of me? A version of you. Not everyone's gonna resonate, right? They're gonna see me and be like, black guy. No.

Right.

Totally cool with that. Some people are going to see you be, like, white guy now. Right?

Some people are going to be like.

Okay, I don't like beards.

Right.

Some people, they just. They just.

Yes, but they all have their own thing, right? And if there's enough of us talking.

Similar stories, moving in that same coherence, and we all know that it's centered on this consciousness that is the center point. The balance of what, you know, Malcolm's working on your work, it's how these things collapse into the zero point so that when it breaks and the death happens, whether it's just the death of.

A memory or the death or whatever.

It might be or reconstructing has the potential to harmonize it to a new reality. We could do that all the time. We can reset our zero point. This is how we live longer. This is how we disease. This is how we make more money. Money will eventually not even be a thing, won't even matter anymore. But this is how this world will start to move because we will move into fifth dimensional beings and we being able to connect and integrate the spirit instead of chasing space, chasing time, trying to map our way into it and using tools and resources out of manipulation versus creation. So that's, that's, that's where I'm at.

Support for that.

Yeah, I'm hearing every step. Let's get it, let's get it. No, no, we're to support each other.

Man. I love this.

I love this. Thank you for this. Thank you so much. Guinea pig. Nice. Love it.

I'm sure this will not be the last.

It won't be the last time. Yeah.

All right, we'll cut it there.

Yeah. All right.

Thanks, bud. Thanks, guys.