Time, Power & Consciousness: Breaking the System to Build Your Own Reality: 19Keys & Sean Clayton

Realize what the Epstein Files did. It's desensitizing us to the actions of what secret societies are capable of.

Files released upon the consciousness of billions of people all thinking about dark things.

There's not a time beyond us that is more important than the one we're in right now.

The narratives we have in our head are not the truth.

Evil is a human-built construct. The Satan, the evil, the devil, all of that lives inside of us.

If Jesus grew up in a time where he learned about these files, he gonna do more than flip tables.

Yeah.

And in a demoralized world, what do you even have as a compass that makes you intentional in the first place?

The 3 most powerful gifts that you get are pattern recognition, pattern utilization, and pattern creation. In 2012, time stopped. I was becoming part of a system that was leading people astray. There's something in Mayan cosmology called baktun cycles.

What you think are conspiracies, we've been learned about the crack agenda, we've been learned about redlining.

I'm gonna go a little deep here. I was feeling the puppet strings pulling on me. They will knock on your door. They will come at you. Because here's the thing about secret societies, it sounds crazy, but it's real.

More information age has just been released on it. How can you love God who you never seen but hate your brother who you see every day?

There's two sides of religion. There's religion that's the prison, and then there's religion that's the freedom. We don't recognize it because otherwise we'd lose our mind. Part of me had to destroy my life.

God loves his people. How do you not love God's people?

I got up to, you know, 7 figures, and then I lost it, and then it came back again, and lost.

Is a billion enough? 2 billion? A trillion? There's no end to it. Black people experience America different than white people.

The most scarce thing in the world, though, is humans.

But to say something is human is also to say something is God. They talked about having—

we're going all over the place here.

So, how long conversation today?

We're going all over the place.

I want them to feel like they have the keys to build their own kingdom.

Why don't we just make this the glitch? Why don't we just make this the glitch?

Peace, family. Welcome back to High Level Conversations. I know a lot has occurred since the last High Level Conversations. The world has shifted in many different ways, and not all of them good, but not all of them bad. We are now in what they call the fire horse year. A fire horse year is a very powerful year, something that only happens every 60 years. It is a reminder of the cycles. Last year was the year of the snake. It was the shedding of things that we don't need, people that we do not need, so that what? When a snake sheds its skin, it's because of growth. And so hopefully you all have shed those things out of your life because you're going to need that lightness Right? You're going to need to feel weightless as you're carrying on more burden of evolution. And being in this fire horse year, this is a year of movement, right? As horses represent movement, but also carrying as well. This is a time for builders, not talkers, because this is a time of rapid innovation and execution. So any idea, whether you're experimenting, whether you're trying and failing, You must be in motion in order to count. Now, a lot of things are in motion, and we're going to continue to see things in motion in this world. All cosmic dates, calendars, and portals will be utilized to open events, those up at the higher realm and those at the smaller. As we're seeing things occur in artificial intelligence moving to artificial general intelligence, we're seeing things happening on domains of war. Just this year, 3 countries have been bombed already, from Nigeria to Venezuela to Iran. Now, all of this constant war and tension on your mind is not a good thing. This is why the divine always synchronizes order. Did we see Lent and a cosmic calendar in Ramadan land on the same day, reminding people that they need to fast from the world and get realigned with God, realign with their higher self? A detox is needed because there's a parasitic nature of information that gets caught up in your mind. When we're constantly scrolling, stuck, this is the true doom. When the Bible says, "Ye are gods," it's speaking on us as being the judges and the rulers of our own lives. So are we ready, or are we still stuck in the year of the snake, needing to shed but have not done the growth in order to shed the old self. I have a brother named Nero Knowledge, and he speaks upon the old frequency hunting you as you're trying to step into a new one. And you have to be very careful of that old frequency as like this entity that wants to be fed. Every time you try to change your situation, that old frequency is calling you back. People will remind you of who you were instead of speaking towards who you are. And that which you are becoming. In this world, we need higher minds, we need execution, we need builders, we need strategists, we need funders, right? What we don't need is a waste of time. This is not a world that lacks abundance, but if your mindset cannot see it, then your reticular activation system doesn't even show you the way. So you have to learn alignment during this time to find your tribe, to build, to create parallel systems and ideas, but also be able to see the veil in order to be able to move around it to create something new. Today I have somebody who's been here, who's a friend of the show, and he has laid down things like the 7 Hermetic principles on us. He has taught us the difference in darkness and light, and he has shared so many things upon himself to us in the audience about his own dark days and past that got him to light. I bring you none other than my good brother Sean Clayton, who I wanted to have this conversation with because he sees things from eyes in which most people do not. He sees things from a lens of always trying to show people the harmony in the world, the light in the world, the darkness in the world, and hopefully that we may get beyond where we are. As somebody who went through his own personal passages of darkness, I believe that he has used that as a way to transmute his own personal stories to develop a mind that allow you to get past your own and ultimately allow us to usher in a new era. So today, as we dive into these subjects, I want you to sit down, I want you to grab a pen, I want to make sure you subscribe, and I want you to tell a friend because we're about to have a high-level conversation once again, my brother.

Amen.

I appreciate that.

I appreciate that. Man, I want to jump into 2012 real quick. You know what was going on with you in 2012?

2012. What was I? I was, um, I don't, you know, maybe, maybe actually, yeah, I do. Wasn't my best year at that time. I believe if I'm correct, 2012, I think was the day or the time I was just finished off my case, right? I had an assault case pending. If I'm correct, it finished February 22nd, 2012.

Okay, that's perfect. All right. I was released from prison in 2012.

No, we was both just getting outta situations. All right.

We know that the, you know about the Mayan calendar in 2012. Also, if you go and watch that Epstein deal on Netflix, his first indictment was on January 25th, 2012. So in 2012, time stopped. We don't recognize it because otherwise we'd lose our minds. But time literally stopped at that moment in time. There's something in Mayan cosmology called baktun cycles. There's 394-year cycles, you know, go, Go look this up. And if you go forward and backward, we ended the 13th baktun cycle in 2012, December 12th, 2012. And that was the end of unconscious, the unconscious world as we knew it. Now, what does that mean? The unconscious world is us struggling, us working in this kind of construct of time, this overly masculine society that we've lived in. All of the pain and the struggle and the stuff that we kind of have historically gone through, the ability for people to manipulate the kind of occult practices and the mystical shit that goes on, that ended in 2012. Now there's been since then, it's been about 13, a little over 13 years since then. Those 13 years have been what I would call the path of, I don't know who it is, I don't know who the person is or who the entity is or who, whatever you wanna call it, but it's their last gasp to hold on to the way that they knew the world to be over that old cycle of time. All right. Now, I'm going to go a little deep here. All right. In Mayan cosmology, there are 3 numbers that are important. Okay. And why is Mayan cosmology important? It's important because the way that they view the world, if you kind of go through, it doesn't really matter whether it's 7 Hermetic principles, whether you're looking at, you know, Yeshua and Jesus, the way he walked with the 12 disciples and Even being like the number 13, whether you look at like your fingers and toes and all of this has like, you have 20 of these. So I'm gonna walk through what those numbers mean, why they're important. But Mayan cosmology gave us a blueprint of how consciousness has been created and how we go from the underworld, all right, to the cosmic world, to the full sovereignty of ourselves. All right? So throughout this entire structure, the 3 numbers that are important are the number 9, the number 13, and the number 20. Okay. The number 9 is you going through the underworld for you to be able— and that's why they call the number 9 the number of completion. You go through the underworld to actually deal with the inner aspects of yourself and the inner world that we live in. Okay. So when you go through the 9th baktun cycle, which have been right around the windows of the Renaissance and all this other window that happened there, that was us having this like awakening of us dealing with all of the inner stuff that we had to deal with so that we could go into the next phase of expansion. And you have these kind of like different cycles of time that happen. We just ended the 13th baktun cycle. And the 13th one specifically is us going from us being in the inner world to the cosmic world. So we connect with the cosmos, we connect with God, with the divine, which is why things are specifically since 2012 are moving way faster. Okay. Like, I mean, days are faster than I've ever seen before. Months, you know, like last year, I don't even, it's like this, right? So once we hit that number 13, which we just ended, now things start to accelerate. Now we're in a window between 13th and 20th over the next 7 times 394 years where we will go through this ascension process where we'll no longer be unconscious. We are forcing ourselves into consciousness. All right. Now, if we're going to force ourselves into consciousness and this 7 baktun cycles that we're about to be in, so 7 is important. We go back to the 7 hermetic principles. 7 chakras of the body, 7 continents, 7 colors of the rainbow. You know, we can go down the code of 7 here in a minute. But that code is when we hit that number 7 and we know exactly what to do and we walk through those different principles of ourselves, what will happen is, is we go through this massive ascension process. Time, like the 7 times 394 years, won't even matter because it'll all basically collapse onto itself. All right. Another interesting point. Is in the middle of those 13 baktun cycles. What's the middle of 13? Is 7. Sits right in the middle of 7, right? Is when Jesus came into the world. So that zero point in time that we talk about where you go from, you know, zero all the way up to where we are now and then going backward, that was literally the 7th baktun cycle that happened. It's no accident. What Yeshua, Jesus gave us was a code of how we're actually supposed to act right now. So most Christians, right, believe that we have to give ourselves up to this person, that he's going to be our only savior, and we don't really have to do anything. So we want to have the gift or the safe passage without doing the work ourselves. That ain't gonna work. Okay? So whether you're Christian, whether you're Muslim, whether you're Jewish, it doesn't really matter. The window that we're in right now is so damn important for us to be able to walk through those 7 principles that will allow us to understand the gift that Yeshua gave us. To not follow Yeshua, but to follow the instructions. And then once we do that, we will create a different window of ascension where time will collapse, we will ascend, we will become partners with that which created us. And when we do that, this whole world changes. And we're in the window right now, the pocket, some people call it that, to be able to do that.

I was, as you was talking about that, I was looking up something. I remember in my studies.

Yeah.

From when I was getting deep about time, right? It was from Mother Tanetta, who was the wife or one of the wives of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. And she would often, her research would go into the Mayan calendar and studies. And there was this brother by the name of Jose Argüelas who essentially I believe is the one who found the 19 frequency that exists within the Quran. And within that, that kind of led me to studying the Mayan calendar at the time. Of course we start talking about the different artificial times that we live on, right? So we live on a 1260 frequency, right? 12 months, 60 minutes, et cetera. And I believe in the Mayan, it's a 1320, right? 13 months, 20 days. And it's a completely different, and they consider that to be nature's time, right? And I think what people need to understand, especially as we're dealing with time, Unless we can master time, right? We will be mastered by time. And what I mean by that is that there's a book called "The Iceman Inheritance." "The Iceman Inheritance" essentially speaks upon the cold nature of people who grow up in cold climates and they develop genetically in those environments. And you get into survival. And survival makes you always think forward in time because you then have to gather your rations and things of that nature just in case you may never be able to eat.

Yep.

Right? And so you're not thinking of a moment of abundance, right? You're always thinking, I need mine, I need mine, I need mine, right? Right. So you have this ambition to go out and get more. This makes you logical and rational and calculating in a very cold cognitive way.

Yeah.

So it's called cold cognition versus people who live in a warm cognition. Right, so you have people of ancient Kemet, right? And their understanding of time, of course, was based on seasons and cycles because time was ordered around events. So if Kemet, meaning land of the black, talking about a fertile soil so that they can grow food, right? Agriculture and learning to just live within a harmony of an environment allows you to sustain your people. right? And to ultimately grow a civilization because nature provides, right? When I was just in Uganda, the president had said something to me. He said, even a fool can survive here because it's impossible to starve, right? It's the most beautiful place I've ever been to from the scenery. It's so beautiful. The people live in harmony with the animals, right? They said, we don't have pets here, right? You see monkeys just climbing the trees. You see cows everywhere. There's more birds than you could ever see. It's beautiful. And it's so abundant that if you, the soil is so fertile, if you spit on the ground, you can create a clone of yourself. You know what I'm saying? It's that good. It's right there on the equator. So you get more dense sun that gets into the cellular structure of the food. So it's ultra mineralized and it's volcanic soil, right? So all the minerals from the earth went up and came down and now it's highly dense mineralized extra solar equator food. Right? And so I was saying that, so people living in that warm environment, why do you need to be overambitious? If you don't do anything, you'll still be okay.

You'll still be good.

Right? And so you now start, what becomes more important to you is community, right? You think about the philosopher N'Bidii, who talks about the philosophy of time, African philosophy of time, says that the African more so thinks of the present and the past. Right? And so that in most cultures, there's not that many words for maintenance or near future.

Right?

Right? Now, of course, there are many exceptions to the rule, but this was based more so on how different knowledge systems and faiths came into or came from Africa and spread in those particular people. But even today, you find that prevalent, right?

Yeah.

Now, if you have a people growing up on a calendar of time, 365, 1260, you can master them because you throw them completely off their harmony and off their rhythm.

Right.

Right. And we know that the industrialization age of America put together the 9 to 5 so that they can turn the people into a labor force so that they can utilize their energy.

Yeah.

And so we stopped being masters because mastery did not matter. Put you in classrooms where who cares? As it became an age-based measurement of approval. You turn 18, as long as you don't get an F, which is like, as long as you're not mentally challenged, we can keep pushing you through the system and you can be a worker.

Right.

Right, and we don't think about that. Like, imagine if this was grading food. As long as it's not to the point of poison, right, then we can pass this food off and throw you in the market, right? And so that's how human beings were. Rockefeller made us a nation of workers, and Horace Mann entered their plan by taking the Prussian model, of cold cognitive thinking and discipline from the Prussian nation, of bells and all of these things. He studied that, brought that to America, and he said this would be best so that we can grow into an industrialized nation. So there's no harmony in that, right? And you have different racial behaviors of cold and warmth and things of that nature as far as the way you think about life, progress, dominance, harmony, nature. Love, all of these things are byproducts of your cognitive thinking. And so everybody was thrown into a cold cognitive process of thinking, which throws you completely off alignment. And now you need more discipline ever to do things you don't wanna do. And so now we're blaming society for having a lack of discipline. Although we know that in the early 1900s, when they learned about the psychology of man and his dark desires, they used that against us and they gave us more things that we can desire, right? And the necessity for more discipline than we could ever have, right? And so it is not the nature of man that is imbalanced, it is the environment that is not in accordance with the nature of man that keeps him imbalanced, right? And so as you talk about time collapsing, if we don't become a hybrid of the cold cognitive timekeeping in the sense that we have the arrow of time, to where we can plan ahead, but we also understand the cyclical nature of time to where we live in harmony, right, with the present, right? And we look back towards the past while looking forward in the future at the same time, which is Sankofa, right? And so I believe that as a people, you know, understanding that harmony, right, and not living on capitalism's time, we can then enter into a new paradigm.

And that's where we are. I mean, here's, here's the thing. I mean, to, to everything you said, we are—

there was a lot. I'll just—

no, that was, that was—

wow.

No, it was perfect. 'Cause I mean, through everything that you said there, yeah, I, I like where you went, where you were talking about in Africa, there's very little where they focus on the future. Mm-hmm. Right. It's present and back.

Right.

One thing that I learned over this last, I went offline about I don't know, a year ago. Okay. I had some, some really dark things go on in my life where I realized that I was, I was becoming part of a system that was leading people astray. I was feeling the puppet strings pulling on me and then recognizing that I was getting rewarded for the fact that they were pulling on me. And I was literally folding into what I could call like a secret society system.

Okay.

I was in the meetings. I was in the phone. I was on the phone calls. It was one of those things where it's okay. Like, You could do something. It sounds crazy. Okay. Me saying it, but it's real. Okay. They will knock on your door. Okay. They will come at you. And the promise of the future was so big that part of me had to destroy my life in order to retract myself from it because I didn't feel personally worthy enough to receive the things that they said that I was worth. Now that wasn't me saying it, that was them saying it. What's different is when you recognize internal sovereignty, you see the spark that's within you. I didn't recognize that. I was saying all the right things. I was on this show saying all the right things, right? I would be on social media with hundreds of thousands of people responding to like all the right things. There was part of me that didn't believe it. Okay, so when I got into that deeper sovereign space of myself and I had to just turn everything off, I almost lost my wife, my company, a lot of money just disappeared. And once I went into this deeper version of myself and I had to go back and architect my past to go backward, that's when I was able to then come back into the world and stand as a different human being. Okay. Now the presence that I'm in, I am the creator of my life. I'm in partnership with this thing that we can call Yahweh, the architect, the demiurge. I don't care what, um, what religion you're from. Gnosticism calls it different things, but there's an architect that created the reality without judgment for us to either fall full victim to— and this is in the first book of the Bible in Genesis— or for us to be in partnership with. 99.9% of humanity, including myself at certain points, was a victim to it because I peered through the gears of creation, what the architect had given us, and I fell right into it. And then there are several people that sit over the top of this. That pull on these puppet strings. Okay, and we can, I mean, I'm not gonna name the names, right?

Go ahead.

But you named one a minute ago.

This is the great unmasking of the, the veil.

I mean, it's, you know, conspiracy theory would say, you know, Rockefellers or Rothschilds. That's not conspiracy theory. It's not, you know, all of this is coming out.

Yeah, I think everything is, at this point in time, all the conspiracy theories are owed an apology. And because conspiracy theories was created by the CIA.

Yeah.

Right? So that people would not acknowledge the truth.

Yeah.

Right? And I like when my brother Dr. Wesley say, "You a conspiracy documentarian." Right. Right? We're documenting the facts and observing truths. Some people are early in that observation because we are not so connected to the world to where we believe in the system. Right. And so there was so many people that, "The government would never do this." Mm-hmm. "Nah, my government, not my government." Right? Because to believe you're connected to a system that is evil, right, is then to approach your own humanity and to look at your own morals, right? Then to now observe your own mind and say, damn, if that system is evil and this is the institution that taught me, then what did they teach me and for what purpose and what agenda and what intent?

Right.

So now nobody wants to challenge their own identity. And so they've connected you so deep to the system that to challenge the system is to challenge yourself, right? And so we know for a fact that, like, let's be honest, like what the Epstein files done, man, it brought so much vindication to so many people. Same thing with the COVID files, right? And this continues to happen over and over and over. It's like, why don't we want to believe the truth? Why is not when you hear the truth, you don't have the ability to recognize the truth?

Yeah, right.

What is it that you've been programmed with so much that your ears are deaf, right, to the winds of truth?

Yep. What I am going to say to that though, do you do the— if you realize what the Epstein Files did, it's desensitizing us to the actions of what secret societies are capable of so that they can continue on that path. And then it's no accident that as this is getting released We're also getting bombarded with war. We're also getting bombarded with fake news. Here come the aliens, right? Whatever else we want to throw out there in order to desensitize us from what the puppet string masters are going to be doing to be able to continue on the path that they're on. Because here's the thing about secret societies, and I'm just going to go there. Here's the thing about secret societies and what they taught us with the Epsteins is that it's an entire community of blackmail. Okay. And not blackmail like me and you, but like blackmail.

We call it white mail over here. But blackmail. We got more white mails than the blackmail circles.

But blackmail to the point where it's like, let me give you the drink and, you know, and I'm gonna take you down the path. And once I give you something to drink and I give you a little bit of drugs and then, oh, here's the woman that you really wanted. Right? Oh, well now I got that on tape. Now, but I also know that you'll do my bidding. If you don't do my bidding, I'm gonna go tell your wife.

Mm-hmm.

All right. Oh, and let's go a little bit further. Now I'm getting a massage. I don't know if you saw the thing. I'm getting a massage on the table and oh, she just happens to be 18 now. Mm. All right. Oh, well now let's bump it down to 17. Mm. Now let's bump it down to 16. You still good?

Mm.

Oh, we got that on video, so you can't go anywhere, but also I need you to go do this thing for me.

Mm-hmm.

Right? We're gonna keep that loop going. Now, as I initiate, this is all initiation. As I initiate you further along and along through the process, well, now let me open up another door. We're gonna do some weird shit on an island. I'm gonna have you come here. The president's gonna be there. The next president's gonna be there. These people that control all of these different areas, Microsoft, you name it, everybody's gonna be there, right? So you should come. And now inside of that, you see everybody doing the thing, which is whether it's sacrifice, whether it's murder, whether it's sex trafficking, you call it, you know, little girls, whatever they're doing, they're doing it.

And now once you're in, you're in.

And now you're doing the bidding of somebody else that's pulling on these puppet strings. Because nobody knows where Epstein got his money from. The guy just blew up and had billions of dollars, right? Out of the blue. He was a coordinator.

Got some ideas.

But he was a coordinator of this chaos to keep people entrained into these secret societies. That also know how to mess with these laws, know how to work with this Yahweh, this Demiurge kind of energy so that they can be in connection and in partnership with it. And at which point they have the ability for the world to be run by them, right? Now, here's the thing. This Yahweh, this Demiurge, it's not evil. It doesn't care. It just knows that, hey, if you get in frequency with me, I'm gonna reward you. So this is why we were talking about last time, these 7 Hermetic laws are so important because each one of those laws is a trap that if you don't know how to master them, you basically fall subject to the Demiurge because you're not worthy, or the Yahweh. We can talk about what those things are. But to Yahweh or the Demiurge or the God in the Bible, to where you are not going to be given the gifts that you deserve because you are not equal. Each one of us has that. So once we know those laws, then we can walk in equality with the creator of the universe, the creator of our perspective universe, this architecture that we live in. Then at which point we get into 8th, 9th dimensional frameworks, which is thus, again, we talked about the 9 before, which is this inner world that we're in. We conquer the inner world and then we connect with the cosmos and then magical things start happening.

Yeah.

But if I wanted to keep you trapped in this system, I would make sure that you were always off balance in any of those 7 laws. I would make sure that I was in partnership with it and I would keep the powers that be in society and influence to make sure that nobody was able to even get close to them. So I would have people in entertainment, in technology, in politics, in every other part of the world to continue to poison your mind so that you could never get into a sovereign state of knowing. And then at which point you were always being pulled on by the few, this unified society that lives over the top. And they control the Putins, they control the, you know, the Massads, they control, you know, all of this stuff. It's all the same group of people going to the same parties doing the same thing. Right? We just aren't seeing it because we keep paying attention to the future. The thing you were just talking about before, the hope of the future, not correcting the past, not going back and looking at the patterns, not being in our body here today and then creating abundance and sufficiency right now. Right.

But see, they keep us anti-futures, right? And I'm not, we're not gonna skirt past the Epstein fast yet. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get into that a little bit more. Because you start talking about initiates, right? And Satanists are very intelligent, right? They utilize so many different ways to try to get into your mind.

Yeah.

And if they can control what you're thinking, then you're helping them manifest the reality that they want to produce. So you have to be careful when the timeline of revelation is revealed by the very people that are within the files. Yeah, now you have to question intent. If the mind is not shielding itself with hypervigilance, you're letting in all sort of entities into your mind that attach into your psyche and your imagination. Because now this is a global event that occurred, right? Fowls released upon the consciousness of billions of people, right? All thinking about dark things, all thinking about satanic things.

Right.

Not because these are their thoughts, but because they release files that have people all across the planet Earth diving into it. And what does that create? It creates this dark cloud. It creates this environment within people that are uneased. And now it makes people want to disconnect. You withdraw from the world. This can be a very dangerous place. And what it really is is that you start to lose hope.

Yeah.

Right? At the time where you need all the light. Right. And they're very calculated with this thing because they say, well, look, I've had hope in the system. We tried and we failed.

Yeah.

And they want you to keep feeling like no matter what you do, nothing will work. Right. That you cannot break this firmament. There's nothing you can do to push past this, cross this threshold, that we will always be the lords of this world, which is not, they're weak and they're fragile. Anybody that needs to do things to children is the weakest ever. And what they're doing is an initiation of trying to destroy all of their humanity. Because how did those who are in power get in power? It's not that the tools in which they had to conquer over time that were so special, You know, it's not that they were the greatest strategists, it's that they didn't have any ethics. There was no limit, right, to which they would go to conquer. There was no limits to the greed. There is no such thing as enough. So when one people may conquer, right, but this is one considered to be a rational level of violence that happens in territories of expansion and new kingdoms and population and things of that nature. Then there's this ideological violence that happens. Right, where there's a consistent justification of conquering and dominance and domination over the mind, over time, over lands, over systems of colonization. And then you have to ask yourself, can there ever be peace with a people whose nature is so deeply rooted in evil that is what makes them who they are?

Can I answer that? Evil, evil, evil is a human-built construct. Okay. I know that sounds wild to say for some people. All right. And I might get canceled for saying that with some people.

Well, yeah. I mean, you are gods.

Yeah.

We just might die like men.

Yeah.

But to say something is human is also to say something is godly.

This is true too.

Our divinity went where he made us above the angels, didn't that's what he said? But the devil didn't wanna bow down. So it's our job to make the devil bow down.

But what is the devil? Is it an external entity or an internal entity? Is it a lack of awareness?

I think it's internal.

Yeah.

But it can be external when you see it in others.

It's external when you see it in others. It bothers. Yes.

Right? So it's within yourself, the part that devalues self, the part that makes you feel shame, that part that keeps you down and say you're not enough.

Yes.

Right? It's the animal side of man. Honorable Elijah Muhammad had a saying, he said, You know, when you're in the mud.

Yeah.

Right, when your mind is in the mud, we talking about this left brain mind, right, that is over the world, which is the animalistic thinking where man is controlled by his astrological nature of things.

Yeah.

He is in his beast form. He doesn't have ability of self-consciousness and moralizing things and virtue, right?

Yeah.

And I would say in many ways, evil is the opposite of virtue.

Yeah, yeah, 100%. And so if you go down the path of— we're going all over the place here.

That's a high-level conversation today.

We're going all over the place. If you go down the path of quantum physics, where we collapse the wave function based on our observation and how we truly feel from the inside, then the Satan, the evil, the devil, all of that lives inside of us. Now you've got Luciferian energy, which most people think Lucifer, that's the devil. That's the biggest fucking trick we ever played. Because the light bearer— Lucifer means light bearer, okay? If you go to the Book of Enoch, right, and then you dig into that a little bit more, okay, there is this, um, there's the Oath of Kasbeel. You know about this? Okay, so Kasbeel, there's this Oath of Kasbeel, which Kasbeel is this— is K-A-S-B-E-E-L, I think that's right. Um, and in the, the, the, the book, the, the Oath of Kasbeel, Kasbeel essentially was the first angel that gave humanity too much information. Go back to the Tree of Knowledge, right? Too much information that they weren't ready for. So then Caspiel was cast away because it brought the light forward, right? When Caspiel was cast away and pushed to the side, all Caspiel wanted to do was come back. Caspiel is Luciferian energy. It's that Satan energy, that dark energy that's like, hey, you got pushed away, you're bad. Because people aren't ready for this because we couldn't hold the capacity of what that information was. Therefore, we were cast out of the Garden of Eden. It all kind of combines, right?

Well, in a way, it's releasing chaos.

Yeah.

Agent of chaos.

Agent of chaos.

Because information can be good when a person is ready.

Right.

You know?

Right. Now, what was the God that cast us out of the garden? It wasn't, if there was an all-loving God, a monad God, a unified God, you know, the God in Islam that we talk about, no name, you know, that God itself is not a jealous God. It's not a God that's like, oh, you do this, now there's punitive damages for what you've done, right? That doesn't exist. So there was another version of God that basically sat inside of the Bible that pulled across these different 7 days that we could become aligned with. That when we, We fell out of that and we got too much information and we had the choice to either go high or low, to do good or bad or whatever it might be. We started making these different choices, right? And that knowledge in a small window of time that we've been given, because what was happened in the book of Genesis is we were cast away so that we would not go back and eat from the tree of life, not the tree of knowledge. So it was, we were not supposed to go back into the garden to eat from the tree of life so we could live forever. Because then at which point we would've been equal to the architect of this universe because we're now moving beyond space and time. And so our captivity is the containment of limited time. Our captivity is the containment of limited time.

Well, which from a physical sense?

From a physical sense and to ourselves, somewhat a spiritual sense because we keep forgetting every time we wake up in this world, every time, you know, You know, when my son was born, he woke up, he forgot. And now he has to come back in and find people like you and I and others to be able to help them remember.

I wonder if it's forgotten or we released it. Like, it is— what's— when you play a new game, like, yeah, you know, what's the fun of the game if you already know exactly how to beat it? You know exactly what's around the corner. How can you enjoy life if you know everything? This is true, you know. So it seems to be a part of the human experience is not knowing too much so that you can enjoy the experience. I'm a person that has metacognition. I think about thinking a lot. So I'm in my mind, right? But when I'm in flow is when I am not in my mind, right? It's when I'm in my body is when I am connected to the external feeling that I am present, right? Therefore, my mind is not overthinking. Instead, I can flow and then I can enjoy, right? Right. And enjoy only happens in present.

Right?

Right. Joy doesn't happen in the future. It does not happen in the past. It can only occur in the present.

Right.

And so oftentimes you see people who have the curse of knowledge, oftentimes they're not happy because they can never be in joy.

Right.

They're always simulating a future, right? They're always studying a cycle of the past. And so they're living in these two different places consistently. And there's only so many people I think on the planet Earth that can hold that much time and space. Yeah, right. That can hold even multiple perspectives. If we're talking about the devil, the devil, the devil is not really that clever. His greatest trick is making you think that he knows something. Yeah, right. He can't force you to do anything. And I would say that he, it, whatever we want to call it, right, it exists, um, only because we don't know it exists, right? Meaning that darkness is ignorance, right? And when you have knowledge of something, you must turn that knowledge into wisdom of it and then understanding of it. So the information, I think we're being distracted by when all the holy books speak upon understanding as the highest level.

Right.

Right. And so we have been in this information where information age has just been released on us.

Crazy.

We have more. If we wanna say that there is a, if there was a devil that released information, then what is OpenAI?

Hmm.

Right. What is cloud and perplexity? Right. What was Apple giving us these phones to fall in love with right in the first place? If we're talking about the internet and the information web of things and the internet of things and us being connected, and basically you have these different dimensions that just been broken. You have physical space with man and then you have this internet space.

Yeah.

Right. Where we in this web. And look at the terms that we use when we start talking about the internet within itself. A stream.

Yeah.

Right? A stream of consciousness from low bandwidth to high bandwidth to different frequencies and channeling, right? We have different channels in which we watch. All of these are these metaphysical terms that can then be applied, right? And so when we look at this Epstein thing, it's not to be, it's not a distraction. But it's also not the focus, right? Right. To be aware of great evil can become a great burden, right? But that is the responsibility of good people, right? Right. If you follow Yahweh, you follow Muhammad, right? You follow Buddha. I don't care what you follow. If you know that great evil exists in the world, what is your responsibility then? Because what did Jesus do? He wrestled with the principalities of his own people. Yeah, right. He wrestled with the great evils of this world. He went head on to it. And if people believe that in the last days he will come back and return and do what? He will return and destroy the world. But what does that look like if we're being practical? If Jesus grew up in a time where he learned about these fowls, right? Right. And he's saying, man, these, they doing what?

Yeah.

He gonna do more than flip tables.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like you have to think a man with that much compassion and love for people and hear about this much great evil. And you think he'll be able to rest? And then all of a sudden you think he gonna be saying that Islam is the problem? You get what I'm saying? I try to understand how he's connected to my side and all of a sudden the pastors is talking about Islam is the problem, right? We not in the— it's not the effing fowls of Islam, right? I ain't saying that, you know, you start going over to them Arab countries, they got some wild stuff. They in some of them fowls, but they don't represent Islam, right? They represent Islam.

Right.

You know what I'm saying? He doing it his way. They are evil dictators of the world based on these elite circles of devils as well in the darkness.

Yeah.

You feel me? But when we start talking about it, Islam ain't the controllers of the media.

Right.

Islam ain't the controllers of the school curriculums. Islam ain't pushing the agendas in America. What would happen if Islam overtook in America? And all these people act like they afraid of it. Why? Would you have to partake in your pornography and your gambling and your gluttony and greed and the charging of interest, right? Because you would have to go into new money systems and then it wouldn't be as much drinking eating of the pig. Oh man, that sounds evil. Now think about those who participate in the ownership of those industries on things that do not benefit the people. They are cancerous to society.

Yeah.

And so they have tricked your mind to think that the people who love Jesus are the problem.

Yeah, right.

And so this is the, the greatest trick, and that's when they try to make Islam the distraction as the enemy. Because then the Muslims and the Christians will look at each other and say, man, we brothers, we got a greater enemy. We not even each other's enemies. There's nothing in our religions that should make us enemies of each other. Yeah. If you do that, then you are practicing a dirty version of your religion.

Yeah.

When that is misinterpreted. Right. And so when I see pastors like the brother at the 2619 Church, man, he said something disrespectful about Islam and I was like, who do you work for? Right? And it starts to feel like, man, these are the people that work for the same people that's inside them files.

Yeah.

Because how can you be aligned with the agenda of evil, right? Saying that you represent great good.

Right. So I want to go there. It's funny, I was watching the Kanye documentary. You seen that one? Yeah, the other day.

Oh, they dropped a new one?

They dropped a new one. It was what?

Mo Kanye.

Yeah. It was In His Name. Yeah. Great name. But it was like his whole deal. And he was, it's interesting when you read it, it looks like he's really, I'm just gonna go here, going after the Jews. Okay. That's an interesting label to me because it's not, I'm gonna say this and I know—

Well, I would say a better word would be the Zionist.

Yes.

But I think that maybe his level of knowledge did not particularly know the term in that capacity.

Right.

Yeah, I mean, because—

'Cause there are some, I'm gonna say this wholeheartedly.

Shout out to my Ethiopian Jewish brothers.

Yeah, I mean, I got some amazing Jewish brothers who are like just salt of the earth, everything, right? And hell, Yeshua was Jewish. So I mean, you can't— Jesus was a Jew. You know, you can't knock that, right? Now, what great gift, and even when Kanye talked about this, his whole thing is he just wants to get rid of labels. He wants to get rid of the Jewish label. He wants to get rid of the Islam label. He wants to get rid of all the labels, get rid of the labels so we can unify. He had this one clip inside of that where he said it, I think a lot of people missed it, but he's like, I just wanna get rid of the labels, which is why he put White Lives Matter on his shirt. He's like, I just wanna be contradictory because if you see me as a Black man with the White Lives Matter thing on or I put the MAGA hat on, right, I'm confusing and I'm basically fucking with the code.

Yeah, breaking the stigma of belief.

Right, that was his point. Now, did he do it in the most, like, sexy, eloquent way? Who knows? I mean, we don't know where this is going to end up, but he put his career, his wealth, and everything in jeopardy based on what he believed in. And I think that's super powerful.

Now, I think that— and not to cut your wisdom off, I want you to hold that point— Kanye is the greatest artist of all time. For sure. I could say that about him. I believe he has darkness and he has light. He has things that he must deal with within himself. I don't think he's crazy.

No.

At all. And then I wanna say something about just being crazy. It's a natural response, right? Anxiety, stress, and perhaps stress can lead to levels of schizoaffective in the brain and bipolar and, Schizophrenia, whatever, right? But it might be a natural response to an evil world. It is, right? Think about how many things just Epstein himself had his hand in. That doesn't feel natural to a person. Like, if you are intuitive and you are even sensitive about the nature of things, certain science was pushed because he was funding these scientists. Yeah. And then you have people getting mad at those who are not of the scientific community speaking on things and not liking stuff that comes out with the scientific world. But Epstein is not funding the conscious community. He's not funding the pseudoscience community.

No.

Yeah, I mean, Epstein is just one of the foul, so we're using him as a way to speak on the world of things, if you will, in this kind of conversation. But he was funding so many scientists so that things flowed in the direction of his agenda.

100%.

That's important to say.

Yeah.

Right? But not only scientists, politicians literally texting them, right? While they're there in Congress, right? Giving speeches on the news. He's literally playing puppet master to a world. And then there's the feeling that certain of us who are really wide awake, something about that don't seem right.

Right.

It feels like when you say that there's a devil behind the scenes, we just got shown one devil. Right, right. A very blatant— this is what the devil looks like. But this is something that we always knew.

Yep.

Right. And so now it's like, I don't want people to ignore that feeling that they have about the evil and the things that are not aligned in this world, because we can see the type of things that are behind it. The greatest form of slavery in America is sex trafficking. Yeah. Then it's the prison, you understand me, industry. And so we don't talk about the sex trafficking that exists in this world. We have a very dark line of things that are occurring and missing women and children and men that we are not really practicing our religion great enough because there should be armies.

Yeah.

You understand me? Ready to challenge. There should be crusades of those who consider themselves righteous.

Yeah.

Right. And those who consider the word, those unrighteous. And I'm talking about obvious blatant unrighteousness.

Yeah.

Not you told a lie, you did a little sin because sin just means to be off target. We ain't talking about that. Every man must deal with his own sin to align so that he can become divine. But I'm talking about great evil that exists in this world. That is the battle today. And in order to win that battle, it begins with self.

It does begin with self.

Then you organize with others who are in that battle with self that then becomes an external battle to battle those who are not battling with self.

Because they see the reflection.

Because if you are not wrestling with the evil, then it is winning.

Yeah.

And so I'm wrestling with mine to win and conquer. And I can't let yours exist because it would then impede other people's ability to live their life joyfully, fully, right? And for us to ultimately deliver what we call the government of peace on this planet. And we can't have a government of peace until there's harmony amongst the people.

Okay.

And how do we—

so then the thing is how we get to that harmony because there's so many places where we know I want to talk about the Antichrist because this is kind of leading from the Epstein Files into this. Not even kind of, it is. And we were talking about, I'm going to go backward to go forward a little bit.

Okay, take your time.

So in order for us to understand where we are, what's going to happen in the future, you do have to understand the past. That is a very true statement. To understand the past, we only look at things like a couple years back, 100 years back, 1,000 years back, whatever it might be. We have to go back to when the universe as we know it was created to hold the human condition that we have today. And I'm gonna talk about that and how that led to the chosen ones, this whole like map that we have and why it has nothing to do with Jewish people, but it has to do with the lineage that has been abused. All right. Which is different than just Jewish people. 'Cause, you know, a lot of beautiful Jewish people out there. But it is a lineage that has been abused. I can definitely take it that that abuse has happened by a very set few of individuals that we will call this like hidden secret society. I don't know what it's called, something that is sitting over the top.

I don't even think we need to name it. I think we know it.

Yeah. But it's sitting there, okay? And that has been abused. So if I go back and I said, okay, if time doesn't exist, truly, right? Einstein proved this, it's all relative. Everything folds onto itself. There's only one moment and that moment that matters is now. And I can tap into any coordinate and we'll use time as coordinates, time and space as coordinates, any coordinate. And I could say, okay, I'm going to go back to the creation of the universe. I'm going to go back to when I look at the Bible as just a map that says, all right, Genesis 1, these 7 days happen. Inside of those 7 days, we split light and dark. Okay? We created mentalism. We created vibration. We created all the animals that we would ever have. We created man and woman. We created karma. We created polarity. We created rhythm. We created time. We created the whole thing in those 7 days. Now, who created that? We think that it's this unified God. A unified God does not need anything. But what a unified God does do is it says, okay, I will create in my image. And when it creates in its image, it gives people free will choice, 'cause it has the choice itself. But in itself, in its full knowing of itself, it doesn't need anything. So because it's living beyond space and time, it doesn't need anything, but it also has all of these different, fractals of itself that need to come back home. Every one of us is a fractal of itself. The Yahwehs, the Demiurge, everything that we've ever named is not God. Everything that we've put conditions to, that we've built religions off of, that we've built books off of, is not God. Not the one God. It's fractions of it, right? And so the one that we play a game with, which is, I'm going to get into how this matters to the Epstein files, how this matters into society today, how this matters into how we're candidly like demonizing Jewish, you know, Jewish individuals, this antisemitism thing is going bananas, which is also creating anti-Islam, which is also creating sleepy Christians, right? It's creating the whole thing. And it's keeping us away from our connection with the one. We don't know how to work off of that playbook that we've been given. Now, who did give, who were the chosen ones, were given that specific playbook. If you go read the Sefer Yetzirah, study the Kabbalah, the Zohar, any of this stuff, there is a very specific structure that they go by, right? It's all built off of actually the code of 7. Like even the time works in days, it's like cycles of 7, 7 hours. It's like a whole thing. And because of that and how they've been taught and the way that it's coded into Jewish religion, they are walking very specifically in the playbook that, I'm gonna call it Yahweh set, the architect of this creation. Now there's the architect and then there's this light being. The architect creates the life, the light creates the energy that light flows into it. The light being, a lot of people would call that Lucifer. Right? And Lucifer and Yahweh are supposed to come together and work in partnership. And when Lucifer stared through the gears of the architect's creation, it fell in love with the self-created man. Man wasn't supposed to reconnect back with it, and now we're fucking lost. Okay? But the ones that were given a playbook of how to like walk down that path were the Abrahamic lineage. Now Abraham did something real fucked up, okay? When he did the whole like Sarah and Hagar thing. And didn't honor both women. And this was like one of the first large fractures in feminine energy, right? So by not honoring both, you end up creating this like shameful lineage that now all of a sudden becomes Islam, right? And Islam is like, hey, we're gonna do this thing, okay? Through Muhammad, through everything else, we're gonna do this thing. We're gonna rise back up into what we know that we are. And we're going to reconnect back with everything that we ever were. You probably know more about this than I do. I've just studied, you know, the edges of it. But when I saw that, I saw that that initial break of not honoring feminine energy, then all of a sudden persisted itself over and over again. And then there was this pride of abuse that was happening inside of the Jewish lineage to where they became the kingship. And then all of a sudden, okay, well, there's gonna become this other king that says, hey, Jesus, this other king that's gonna come about that says, hey, this is not how it's done. And it's gonna hold people accountable, hold people responsible, show people that the kingdom was within them, that there's no outsourcing that I need to do. There's nobody greater than me, that ye are gods, this whole thing. And he ran through like a hell of a playbook in like a couple years, right? To get the thing done. And then he was so convicted in it that he was willing to die for it. Okay. Very few of us are willing to die for it. Very few of us are willing to go and stand up for what you just said a minute ago, the Epstein files, and somebody say, this is some BS and I'm not gonna honor any of this and we're gonna take and hold people accountable. How many people have gone to prison for this right now? None. Exactly. The sickest things in humanity that we've seen and nobody's being held accountable.

That's part of the play.

Right, right. So we as people have to call on those that are in leadership right now and hold them accountable. You know, and—

Or take it in your own hands.

Take it in your own hands. I mean, that's another way to do it.

Well, I will because I, and I say that because it's like, how can you expect those to lock themselves up?

Right.

You know, if it's their call on who gets locked up, right? Who gets in prison and who gets punished. Why would they punish themselves? Especially if believe what you read in them files to be true.

Right.

All right. And, and of course, the files, again, these millions of pages, these are instruments of the same agenda to break democracy completely in this country, right? So you have no belief in a government, which allows them to then institute this digital government because they like, look, the foul things that human beings have done. Yeah, how about we, we start implementing these checks and balance systems, and now we got a complete AI government so that these things can never happen again. Because AI ain't gonna be with the little kids, but that last senator might have, right? Right. The congressman might be taking money from this, and this goes into part of their consistent plans. Like, everything is going— the Epstein files is a part of the plans, right? And so ultimately, even with the de-dollarization of America, they're doing everything to maintain that power. Power never wants to lose power, ever, right? Right. Whether that ultimately goes into You know, what Larry Fink of BlackRock talks about, the tokenization of everything in a one blockchain system, right? And you would look at why all these members of OPEC were the countries that was borrowing from Nigeria to Venezuela, right, to Iran. So whatever you think of some good may come from whatever is happening, it has nothing to do with that. How do you think people that are of great evil are trying to also make great good in the world? When we changed literally our name to the Department of War. Department of War means that there is no, we're not trying to be defensive anymore. It could be called the Department of Dominance. It could be called the Department of Colonization. It could be called the Department of Oppression. You understand me? These are synonymous with saying this is our department of war. It speaks towards intentions.

It does.

Right? And our nation has become a warmongering nation, even though it always has been. But now we're not hiding it. We're saying that we are the Department of War. Right, right. Of the country that we're here to destabilize. We're here to conquer. We're here to kidnap. We're here to be strongmen, to push our way into power. Because you have to remember, America is at this brink, at that 250-year period where, you know, a great empire loses its power. So there has to be a reset, right? So this is the great reset for America. They're pulling out all of the cards because they don't want Russia and China to be the leaders of the world, even though we lost the technological race to China so far. Right, right. So you have to understand what the time that you're in is, right? And what occurs in this moment, this year specifically, especially talking about as cycles begin, you know, this set precedence for decades to come. So what we build, what we do not build, what we challenge, what we do not challenge, we set the precedence for normalization. You ask like, what is it required to have this ultimate place of peace and harmony. You know, Honorable Elijah Muhammad introduced the idea of separation and people did not like it at that time. And you know, Martin Luther King fought for integration and Malcolm X said he went over there and found out that there was white folks that was Muslims and he was like, we wanna have human rights and let's water it down a little bit. But you know, neither one of them read Epstein files. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying like if I would've passed them over like, look bro, look at these. Martin would've said, oh my God, these damn devils. You know what I'm saying? And in hindsight, you know, I imagine with that sort of information, because it ain't just happened with him, it's already been occurring that we just didn't have information on it.

Yeah.

Imam al-Ajma'umi said you cannot fathom the depths of Satan. You cannot fathom because your morality doesn't allow you to imagine such great evil. Right? But now I only know of such great evil because I watch movies on it.

Yeah.

My mind would've never imagined scenes that have been depicted in movies. I would've never thought about it ever in life. They've given us so much of that darkness that we don't even realize that it wouldn't even exist in our mind if we didn't watch their movies. Yeah. If we didn't read their novels, if we didn't hear the news of these things, right? And that's not to say it hasn't not always existed in some form or another in the world, but I'm saying it's present day. Most of our history that we're stuck in, in the Western world specifically, it's been given to us by the media. We don't know if these things are actually real. When documentation, you know, is mostly kept by the oppressors, then who files what we've been reading in the first place?

Yeah.

Because I still want the Malcolm X files. Yeah. You understand me? There are many files that have not been released, right? And we, if you're going to give people the truth, then release all the truth.

Yeah.

You understand me? But that just goes back to say that separation is one of them. And by separation, I mean building on parallel economies, right? We have to— how can we continuously be on social media if it is ran by the very entities that are part of the system? What are they doing to us? We will not have cognitive sovereignty. We will be in a digital colonization, right? We have to then look at Africa is going through a recolonization. There's a trap that's over there as well. The diaspora is an house fighting, there's chaos, right? And we have to learn negentropy, which is finding order using intelligence and discipline in the middle of chaos so that we can order our steps correctly. It's not enough to have motion.

Yeah.

So separation, parallel economy building, right? I think we need to strategically create new movements that create national agendas, right? Because we can't have diaspora wars. Right, while also dealing with these devils. It does not work that way, right? We can't be in-house fighting and have a greater enemy outside, right? That's like if we in the movie Sinners, they inside fighting each other while the devil trying to knock in and get at the door, burn you down and take your soul and your culture.

Yeah.

That's exactly what's happening.

That's what's happening. Right.

And we keep letting them in.

Yeah.

So I think that separation in the sense of focusing on building your own tribes, your own systems as much as you can, Detoxing from the world because the more that we even fight the system is a form of integration because it reinforces our belief into a system because it acts as if that we are afraid to create our own, then study our own political background. If you look at the politics in this country, you can go from the 1700s to the 1800s. There have always been political freedom movements and liberation movements, right? And we have always had thoughts. And now we have a mainstream narrative that we're flowing with but that doesn't mean it's the right one. So I think people need to take a step back and look at what they haven't studied. If you are a student of the civil rights movement, look at parallel movements that were occurring, right? So therefore you now get new solutions. You embrace new ways to do things, because we are obviously in a new world where we need to modernize our solution, but it also needs to be based on what I consider to be indigenous wisdom.

100%. I love that. To that point, going back to some indigenous wisdom, which, do we talk about, have you ever been to Jerusalem before?

No, no, no.

Okay, okay.

I haven't been to Jerusalem. I just seen they got bombed the other day.

Yeah, I mean, it's wild right now. So I went over there in September of this year.

Oh, okay.

Went for a buddy of mine's.

With the Zaios.

Oh yeah, I went over there. I went over there and I went to Tel Aviv, visited, something was just calling.

That's the Illuminati you was talking about?

No. No, no, no, that's not it. That's not it. No, no, no. This was, that happened beforehand. Some stuff out of New York. Yeah. Hold up. Hold up. No. So I went over there. I'm not going to call them the Illuminati, but I went over there and I went to the Old City in Jerusalem.

Yeah.

And the Old City is broken up into 4 quarters. Okay. You've got the Christian quarter, Armenian quarter, right? You've got the Muslim quarter, you got the Jewish quarter.

Okay.

All right. And you ever heard, you heard the Wailing Wall?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So the Wailing Wall is where Michael Jackson sung that song. Was it back in, uh, 1993 or '96 where it was like the, you know, free Palestine or the, you know, they don't care about us. That one. And then the other one.

Mm-hmm.

After that, all of a sudden, uh, sex trafficking stuff came up and all this, you know, the sexual abuse.

Michael 5.

He had a Michael file, right?

Shout out to Michael.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Michael, I think is an emanation of Archangel Michael protecting the children.

They said he built out that Never Neverland so that he could protect the kids. Protect the children.

Yeah. And Archangel Michael was around protecting the innocents and protecting the children, which is really interesting. But that's a whole other thing. When I was over there and you know about the, you know, the Temple Mount, right? And the Temple Mount was where like essentially the Wailing Wall is where the Jewish, like the Orthodox, everybody goes in there and prays like crazy. And it's the closest spot that they can get to to get back to the Temple Mount, which was Solomon's Temple and everything else. They can't go back up there anymore because, you know about the red heifer?

Mm-hmm.

Okay. Because they have to sacrifice and kill a red heifer in order to use those ashes for people to go back up and pray in purity. So therefore—

They recently killed a red heifer though, right?

They did recently kill a red, but they did it, they sacrificed the red heifer like, —like somewhere else to see if it was the right thing. And just a test.

I think they're testing it.

Yeah, they're testing it to see if— because it's a whole prophetic— there's like 5 prophecies inside of the Davidic version of Judaism, which we would then say is kind of cascading itself into what this whole Zionist— the Zionist movement, I would say, is more about, like, let's get this prophecy to come true so that this Pax Judaica thing can happen. Which then makes Israel the most powerful country in the world, which then it just absorbs kind of all the resources around that area. And especially as the US dollar is kind of degrading, the Chinese manufacturing is accelerating, both of those things can't necessarily hold the container. There's something else that has to hold it.

Do you think Israel should run the world? The Pact of Days should come true?

I think it's, I don't think we really have a choice. I think it's going to come true. And all of the things that have happened around us right now are sequencing itself to come true.

I think that's definitely what, they would want you to believe. If I had a prophecy, I would want you to believe that you don't have a choice, because there are competing prophecies.

I don't think that it's going to last, but I think it's going to momentarily come true, and there's going to be an Antichrist that walks through the door.

Don't people have to hate Israel before when it comes true? Is that part of the Pact Judaic, that they become so powerful that the people around the world begin to hate them, and it justifies multiple different things?

Yeah. Yeah. And that's happening. Can you see it happening right now?

Yeah, I mean, but this is based on if you are purposely trying to make a prophecy come true and you need people to hate you, you have to do hateful things.

When that's happening right now. Right. So those things are happening, right? All of that's happening. Then there'll be an antichrist that comes through that unifies and builds the third temple back, which is part of even why, if you think about this, the fight against Islam right now, right? There's like this, you know, Jewish-Islam thing that's going on with Iran and whatnot. You then justify to take back the Temple Mount. You've already got a set of, there's, I think, two red heifers that are sitting there ready to go. Okay. Then you just go back up and you do the thing. Now you have religiously, spiritually, prophetically put together the construct of the end of times. You now prop up somebody that is the second coming. Which will then be the Antichrist. This person will be the person that unifies and then calms all of the storms. People no longer hate, you know, what's happening in Israel anymore. There's no more war, there's no more famine, there's no more any of this. Now all of a sudden, central bank digital currency starts running around. Everybody gets a little bit of money because then money isn't real anymore, so we can make everybody feel full, right? Which is why we have to take these like safe guards across these different places that have resources, Venezuela, Africa, which are like, and Russia, which are like the three bastions of the most resources in the world. You can then tokenize that, right? Which then gives you credence to then be able to then put more on the chain. Somebody sits over the top of that. I don't know exactly which one that's gonna be at this point. And then people, the same people that were puppet mastering off of human, I would call human sacrifice, slave trade, trafficking and whatnot. 'Cause it's a $150 billion industry. If you just took $150 billion out of the world right now, it would collapse. It would literally collapse the economy anywhere, right? You just can't take it out, right? So as long as that's alive and well, then the whole thing keeps running, but they have to replace it with something else because they know that they can't keep that system going. They can't keep the sex trafficking and the slave trade and all this other stuff moving. So what they're going to do, they're going to figure out another way to do it. And they're going to back up and basically start to go through the process of backing that off of some kind of tokenization, which to your point, Larry Fink, BlackRock, the whole deal, that's happening. So there will be some antichrist that comes forward. Okay, that person is going to be, you know, on point. Okay, they're going to unify everybody. They're going to feel and look like everybody. They're going to harmonize a lot of what's happening in the world. and then there'll be a second coming. And that second coming is gonna be when we all wake up and we say, okay, we've been giving our power away to something else, to some other person. Mm-hmm. And that second coming is when we wake up inside of ourselves and recognize that the kingdom's always been within, and then we resurrect ourselves.

So is it— universally, I was trying to find it. There's supposed to be a glitch in that. Yeah. And I forget the name of it. It's like Gooberman or Gronberg? No, this is his term that speaks towards like this Superman essentially that interrupts this whole entire state of affairs or possibly could, you know, and some people would say like, let's say like Russia could be, you know, this thing that has details of the plans that occurring, right, with this whole thing. And then they could be one of the ones that interrupts, right, this whole entire so-called prophecy from coming true. That there's never a point that everything is just promised, right? I think the greater thing of a prophecy is just manipulation in a lot of ways. 1000%. I need to get enough people believe it so that it becomes true. There's less resistance. And that's where it's like, for me, as somebody born in this time, right, of this so-called fulfilling of prophecy, the ultimate thing that one can do is just believe into something completely different. Yeah. We're all following these scripts. Mm-hmm. And what do it mean to ultimately get there? Especially while you're living, you don't even get to enjoy life. Yeah. We are consistently told that, you know, follow these books and these prophecies. We have to consistently go through hell and when you die you get to heaven. But at the same time, there's people who are living in great luxury privilege on this planet Earth. Yeah. They don't believe in none of those things for the most part. What are the things that they do believe in? Ultimately just gets them more power. Right, right. And so I think that the people need to have a mass revolting against all of these different prophecies and decide something new and completely decide to be not even the Neo but the Agent in The Matrix. The Agent in The Matrix tried to just tear it all down. Yeah, you get to decide. Do you want to play the game? Do you want to be comfortable in Do you wanna build a parallel system? Yeah. Right? Like what do you wanna build? And ultimately I think what's lacking is a lack of direction and willfulness to the people. And so it's like, well, we start building our Zion, our digital nation platform, right? Because the question becomes, how do you organize energy, right? How do you organize people? They have prediction markets, but we wanna create intention markets. Mm-hmm. I like that. So we can predict things to occur or we can make things happen. Intent. Right? And so that is organizing energy and letting people vote on what would you like to see? Right? And then organizing the people so that we can actually start producing these things into reality. So you can have millions of people betting on one thing, or that same money could be flowing into systems, right, of intention that then produces alternative realities. We are now in a time where the young guys can activate they minds, and everybody gets to be a glitch in the matrix. We can activate millions of Neos instead of one central figure. We have allowed ourselves to believe in their tale of archetypes and heroes and villains for far too long. But that's the story that they know. That's the story of containment. Right. Because if I know how you will fight, then I know how to fight you. Right. It is control and opposition. Yeah. Right. We create the revolutionaries and the rebellious ones. So even that is written into the script. We actually need it as a pressure valve to reset the hope of people. Because hope gives people more capacity to believe and to dream, right? But hope can be used against us, right? If we just give you a little more hope, right? I'll give you some water in hell, right? And you just waiting on another drop. You not even tripping off the fact that you in hell. Water in hell is not a good thing. Let's get rid of the hell, right? And so I believe that that's where we at as a people is that we need to just build, and we need to be radical about just building systems of disruption. Yeah. You talked about Kanye West wanting to get rid of titles. That's just creativity. As a creative, you're disruptive. Yeah. You look at things as they are and say, well, what could they be? Mm-hmm. Right? Creativity is a disruptive energy. And so when you have the creativity being unleashed, what they did is they made that part of the mind docile. So by the time they give you the great tools, we're not making great creations. So what we're doing is we're online looking at what everybody else is making and consuming. And this decreases our ability to produce output because we have so much input that our imagination is being overfed with other people's ideas that we have no room for our own. Yeah. Right. And so it literally cuts off that part of the brain. And so that's when I say we have to get our mind out the mud and we have to rise the minds into a God consciousness. And once you are rising into a God consciousness, you're not producing for domination. Right. We can't continue to listen to the stories. We can read the books, we can study the prophecies, but that only makes the prophecies come true. So if we want the prophecies to come true, then we continue on the path as we are. Yeah. But if we want to prophesize anew, right? Do we want to produce a hereafter? Yeah. Where we learn from the evil in this world? Do we want to make the sacrifice of our ancestors' periods of darkness be worth something? So that we know now, we know human nature, 'cause the Epstein Files is just slavery. Yeah. Right? What occurred in slavery of eating of flesh, of raping and murdering and maiming people, and you know, this practice of greed, right? Capitalism is a direct offshoot of slavery, right? Because most of slavery did not need to exist. You had more slaves than you had even necessity for labor. right? And so that was great evil already. We didn't need those files. We already have our files to know the difference. And that's the difference where we have to talk about Black people experience America different than white people. We experience the government differently. What you think are conspiracies, we've been learned about the crack agenda. We've been learned about redlining, right? Like in my family alone, my grandfather, he, went to, what was it called? Prairie, Texas. Oh, Prairie View. Yeah. And this was a Black school, of course. Yeah. I believe he enrolled in like, I think 1876, I believe.

Oh word? Okay. Something around. He's been around a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was early. Yeah. So he graduated and he spent 19 years in the railroad, working on the railroad. And then he formed the, he wrote the constitution for the Mail Clerks Association, which is like the current thing that protect Black people 'cause they didn't allow us to be a part of these different associations. Then he went on to do something radical. Yeah. So you own a home? Yeah. There was a time where that wouldn't have been possible in America.

I know.

At least where you would've wanted to buy it because there were racist covenants. And these racist covenants, when there's no deeds, there are clauses to say that A Negro or a mongloid, right, which you look like both, could not buy homes in essentially white neighborhoods, right? And that means that in St. Louis where he was, he was the first Black successful real estate agent, right, in St. Louis or Missouri. And he formed specifically this association. It was the Association of Real Estate Association of St. Louis, which is the earliest documented real estate association formed by a black man in America. And he put my aunt through college. Specifically, she was the second black woman to pass the bar in the state of Missouri. So in 1944, after she passed the bar, she helped him form it, right? She put together the formation of the entity. And he did this for the sole purpose that he wanted to go to a white neighborhood as a real estate agent, sell a house to a black couple, and then fund the litigation so that they can take it to court. Court. Now he funded this litigation in Missouri. He orchestrated the whole entire plan, right? It lost in Missouri, then they was able to take it to the Supreme Court. They went to the Supreme Court, co-opted it with the NAACP, Thurgood Marshall, and this case is called Kelly versus, um, Shelley versus Kramer. Yeah. And it won. Oh yeah? Yes. Yeah. So he's the reason that we could participate in home ownership In America. Yeah. Right. And I think about that because I was just, I just learned about his history recently. I knew he was a real estate, in real estate, but I did not know all the history attached to him. Yeah. Right. And it's very powerful. Even the fact that he was in, he worked for 19 years. He felt that 19 key. You feel me? I felt that one last night actually. 19 years. Yeah. Cause I was, I was at my AI agents going covering some information. Looking at documentation, genealogy records, all sort of different things.

That's awesome.

He owned a gas tonic company and a turkey ranch and all sort of things. But I bring that up because at that time they did not see the systems form. So they started creating alternative systems. Their own. Yeah. Right. He, the, the, the National Association of Black Real Estate Agents was formed because there was white associations that would not allow them to participate. So that following year, I believe it was 1947 is when they was founded. Then the case was won in 1948. Yeah. Right. And you know, another significant thing happened in 1948 as well. Right. But as we talk about this, if we don't even know our history, if we think about great evil that exists in the world, their evil was so blatant because they would just tell you like, you know, no, you can't participate. No, you can't buy a house here. Yes, we're racist. Yes, we're white supremacists. Yes, we are the Klan. Yes, we will hang you. Yes, we will kill you. No, we do not like you. Yes, we created a system specifically to keep you out of it. Right? Yes. We want to take a picture of you when you go for a job. So therefore we know who we discriminating against, right? These are practices that we have so much experience in. Right. Right. And we forgotten our ability to create alternative systems so that we can win and/or utilize the system against the system. Right. In America, the best systems to start is not even just political organization, but religions. Right. When we start talking about Judaism and we talk about Jewish people, it's a religion. So they come under completely different protected rights, right? Nation of Islam is formed as a religion, completely different protected rights, right? The Mormons, right? The Amish, these are religions, right? Right. If we want to really create better institutions in America, we actually need to put them under formation of religions. Now I've seen a post, and this is what got me, it was on social media. I forget the brother name. If I have it, I'll put it there. But it's that we're not fighting the right fights, right? And that's what ultimately I want us to get to. The narratives we have in our head are not the truth. Right. Right. We have so much greatness in our DNA. Yeah. Shout out to Actively Black, 'cause that's their tagline. We got so much greatness in our DNA that we're not pulling from. In every story that there was great evil, there was great good. Right.

There was perseverance. There's that polarity.

Right. Yeah. In slavery, there was freedmen. Right. Right. There was abolitionists, there were scholars, right? We've had millionaires in this culture for a long time. They would fund Frederick Douglass so he can go around the world, or the country rather, and have a national agenda of liberation, creating the North Star. W.E.B. Du Bois created The Crisis. We had magazines like The Black Scholar, right? We had the Black Star Line. We had The Final Call, The Muhammad Speaks, the 10-point program from the Black Panthers. We've always created alternative systems so that we can win. And at a time when we got AI and blockchain and we're able to create our own currencies and we're able to communicate all across the planet Earth, acting like we're powerless, you know?

Yeah.

I think it's about time that certain knowledge expires, right? New knowledge comes. And as a people, we need to be in order to do that. And I said indigenous for a reason, because the indigenous people have the wisdom of harmony. Only the indigenous people have it. And what indigenous wisdom forces us to do is talk to each other, right? Not the book, right? See, the book allows us to be in isolation, right? Connecting to God, right? But indigenous wisdom is oral traditions, community. So you have to speak to another person to get to God. Yeah. I am sharing the wisdom God has passed down in the family. Orally through communication. What does God mean? To invoke, right? Right. And what is I am? It's an invocation, right? Right. And so you have to speak to another man or another woman with righteousness. And we have to connect as communities in order to truly participate as our ancestors did when they were aligning with God consciousness. But if we are on the book, only the book, but not with the people, How can you say, Minister Parker, I think you said, how can you love God who you never seen but hate your brother who you see every day? Yeah. How can we claim to go into isolation and look into a book and study and pray but we have no connection to God's people?

Selfish. Yeah. God loves his people. Yeah.

Yeah. How do you not love God's people? So we allowed them to disconnect us. If you ask me what the devil is today is disconnection. Right. We are disconnected from each other. Right. Humanity. And there are some people maybe we need to stay disconnected from, but there are many that need to be connected because the division is what the practice is that keeps us controlled. Right. And now we're more fragmented than ever.

Oh, we are.

So if I consider whatever you believe, as long as it is virtuous, right, then I can connect with you as a brother, right? The book that you read and all those things, I just need to know enough to know that you believe in God, right? You follow a righteous path, you treat people how you want to be treated, right? You believe in harmony versus domination, right? You believe in collaboration over competition. Right? You have love for yourself. You will do the right thing. Like, once I start learning these things about a man, I can work with you, right? But if your religion forces you to disconnect from God's people, then there's nothing I can do with you. If capitalism is your religion, then you're so greedy you can't be trusted, right?

Right. I mean, to your point on religion, there's two sides of religion. There's religion that's the prison And then there's a religion that's the freedom.

Talk to him, talk to me about the freedom.

So the freedom, and I do wanna say one thing. When you said, you know, there's something out there that's gonna be the glitch that helps break the prophecy that's out there. Why don't we just make this the glitch? Yeah. This conversation right now. I'm feeling comfortable about it now. Let's just make this the glitch, right? Yeah. I mean, that means everybody watching, we gotta push this thing along. Yeah. Right? Because this can be, it has nothing to do with ego. It just has to do with getting a message out that we know resonates. And this is the freedom part.

Yeah. We need 144,000 people join Zion, organize the energy, and let's make it happen. Yeah. We ain't gotta say too much.

Easy, easy. And that's what we built.

Everybody, 144,000. That's all I need.

Let's go. Yeah. Let's go. So, so with that, the, freedom in religion is when, to your point, we're in community and we're building from the inside. Each and every one of us is a sovereign being that ye are gods, right? We are the ones that are creators of our lives. There is, you know, we have been taught along the way that we need to fall victim to some other playbook that's been out there. We've been playing a book that's been written 2,000 years ago. Yeah, man.

Okay. It was a good book. It lasted 2,000 years.

I mean, solid. Yeah. It was right. Times are changing, right? And now we have to rewrite what that looks like. There's two lanes within that freedom. One is that we've become overly hyper-masculine to say we have to be the doers and not the beers. So we're always trying to do something instead of just be. And when we can be, then I'm allowed to be seen because I'm present. Because if I'm always moving, you know, when you and I were trying to connect for a minute, try to get this going, we're always moving. Now, you know, one of us has to be still and then the other one can be still with them. Right? And that way we can see each other. Right? And then this is a beautiful conversation that comes out of it. But with that being said, unless we, you know, Tony Robbins said this thing, you know, and I do study a little Tony Robbins. He said the 3 most powerful gifts that you get are pattern recognition, okay? Pattern utilization and pattern creation.

Yeah, I got all those. Right.

So if I can recognize the pattern that exists, which is the past, I can start using the pattern, which is my present moment, and then I can create from this moment through religion or through spirit or whatever you want to call it and through community, that is going to be the great unifying force that is the glitch in this matrix that will allow us to basically move beyond the prophecy because then we can basically make anything a reality at this point, right? And we've seen the darkness, we've seen We've seen the expansion of the worst possible darkness. I mean, I'm sure it could get worse, but it's pretty bad right now. What we've seen in these files, what we're seeing come around in the world, and I think Trump is hilarious in some regard, but the guy does some crazy shit at the end of the day. We've seen kind of, and I've seen on the other side, the Democrats, they've done some crazy shit. Everybody's hiding behind things. So we've seen the darkness, we've seen the shadow. Now it's time to say, are we going to continue to choose that? Are we going to do something different? And so we can say, okay, the Epstein files to the point is it desensitizes us if we fall victim and we continue to be a non-player character in the game. Okay, well, they're going to keep doing that again. Oh, and then here comes a savior that's going to put something over the top that kind of stops it. And then we're going to feel really good about it. And I can trust this because this is way different than what I've ever seen.

Who do you think the antichrist is?

I don't know. I don't know.

You gotta be already buzzing. He's already buzzing.

Yeah. He's already—

At this point, it'd be somebody too late in the game.

Yeah. Yeah. It's already buzzing. It's already out there. I don't know who it is though, honestly. I mean, I'm not gonna try to call it, but it's gonna come up and it's gonna be, for those of us that are awake, very apparent. And for those that are asleep, they're gonna be so trusting into it that that prophecy, the end of times, all this other stuff that somebody wants to come to life, Everybody will chase after it. And to your point, consensus creates reality, right? So now billions of people are seeing it this way. All of a sudden our, you know, sympathetic nervous system is calmed down, right? Because we're not freaking out. We're not in fight flight because, oh, there's this thing that's out there. And all of a sudden everybody gets a check, you know, they'll get into your wallet. Now you're being, you know, monitored, right? You're now in this like social governance contract that's being, that's going on. but you start to feel calm. And it's no accident that where we're going right now, AI is taking everybody's jobs. Right? I mean, I've got a marketing agency and people in my agency are freaking out because it's moving faster than they can move. Right? And I'm pushing the agenda to move it faster, but I'm also saying, hey guys, you can do this another way. We don't have to lose our jobs. We can just become more evolved. But if I get stuck in my old patterns of the past, thinking that that's the only way, which is what we're doing in humanity, thinking that that's the only way, you know, then we're gonna continue to be lost. Yeah.

Well, I think, you know, I started putting together a program. It's called the Cognitive Wealth Key. Yeah. And it teaches people how to live in accordance to the way their mind works. Right? So which is why I was talking about earlier about, you know, us having a nation of workers versus us needing a nation of thinkers. Right. Because school destroyed our ability to know how our mind works because we are trying to force ourselves to fit inside one domain, one box, right? And it only really rewarded 2 to 3 cognitive types, right? And so the rest of your gifts kind of get shunned. So you being a pattern recognition specialist, right? And you're seeing things for what they are and saying, man, things could be better, right? And that is not rewarded. That is seen as disobedience. So therefore you don't get passed along, right? And those who do get pushed up are those who are easily more compliant. And so unfortunately, even a lot of people today that have a lot of the degrees and the master's degrees and the boule of society, a lot of them were the compliant ones that they exactly needed. 100%. Right? Those who are the disruptors and said that, nah, I don't like the system, I'd rather create my own system. Right? Those who are the architects, those are the ones, right, that are seen as rebellious. But those also become the entrepreneurs. Right. Right. And so I think that people today have to take a look at themselves in a way that they think, in a way that their mind works. 'Cause a lot of people are just broke. Yeah. You know, not because they're broke in. Right. Right. But because they don't know how their mind works and how to build a life aligned with that. I built a life based on me understanding my cognitive type. Right. Right. Understanding the way that I communicate, how I can hold a multi-domain, how I can, you know, have pattern recognition and how I'm a strategist and, I've utilized those gifts to build a platform around it, right? And most people don't understand that, right? If you did, then wealth starts to flow towards you because you live in a manner of doing things you want to do. So I got this wrestle with discipline. Not that I'm talking about discipline in the moral sense, because I think a lot of people apply morality when we start talking discipline, right? But discipline in the sense that your mind wants to do certain things, or let's say your brain rather. If you're doing things you don't want to do, you have to burn more calories, right? Brain calories, mental calories. Your brain says, damn, I don't want to do it, but you can force yourself to do things. So the whole time there's friction and resistance. When you're doing things you want to do, you're in flow, right? All of a sudden your brain says, I want to do this. This is rewarding. We can do this for hours and hours. Let's keep going. Matter of fact, we can build a whole life out of this. I want to do this. Let's go. Correct. So it's similar to small talk, 'cause I think small talk is for short form slavery. Right. People forcing you to do something in the moment you don't wanna do. And your brain is saying, and you have to disconnect from who you are in this moment to talk about things that have to do nothing with your identity. Right. So in that short interaction, there's this friction 'cause you can't create synchrony talking about meaningless things. You can only do that in deep conversation, right? Because your brain is able to search patterns, your learning is novel, you're stimulated, right? And you're synchronizing with the person that you're connected with, right? So that's very important, but that's the same thing with life, right? We know so many people that have degrees, but their life is disconnected from their education and they're not even able to use it. Now we see them coming online to social media using what they learned, right, to then communicate it in a manner that allows them to start building wealth. Because I've seen people start to become wealthy, not doing what their degree says they do, but talking about what they learn, right? Which gives people insight for someone who is an expert. Then you realize that your value is not what you know, it's your ability to communicate it. It's the way that you put out the content. It's your creativity. Yeah, right. And so it's an interesting thing that people now forming where AI, yes, is taking jobs, but it's creating jobs, freedom. And we see AI is hiring humans now where it's giving jobs, right? So multiple things are always true, right? And the problem with society today, and you can give me your thoughts on this, it's hard for us to hold multiple truths. Right? Like, I'm a person that can hold a lot of nuance. Any subject I study, I'm gonna study it in many ways. I might study astronomy, the history, the mathematics of it, the spirituality, the metaphysics. So when I talk about it, it's gonna always seem like, boy, you going all over the place. But that's the way I study it. I find patterns all across different domains, but I can hold that. Most people can hold maybe one or two, right? It's very rare if you can hold like 10. Right, right. Because it requires so much mental energy, right? But in today's age, that's what's necessary. Like, embrace your gifts. Yeah. Now it also goes into nuance. Simple hero, simple villain, right? That means that we need everything to be good or bad, right? I mean, and that's just not reality. Reality most of the time is all nuance. There's shades of gray in between the black and white. Right. But what works on social media is saying black and white. Right. Right. Because nobody wants to hear the nuance.

Nobody wants to hear that.

We want to be right and then y'all are wrong. Right. So how do we then communicate to a people where even somebody might just look at dark as bad and light as good and there's no nuance in society? How do we communicate to people to where they get it? How do you communicate to a Christian that there's good in Islam? How do you communicate to a Muslim that there's good in Christianity? Right? How do you then allow people to see each other's sides and understand that you don't have the full tree of knowledge, you have a branch? Right.

So the way we do this, and it's kind of as above, so below, this whole world's been run, you know, the secret society framework of blackmail that we talked about before.

Uh-huh. Where it's like, hey. White male, white male.

But I can extract you in based on the threat that if you don't do this.

We call it dark mail.

Dark mail, right? I did that. If you don't do this, you're gonna lose Y. So if you don't do X, you're gonna lose Y. That lives prevalent across most religions. If you don't go through this guy, you don't get to heaven. If you don't follow these rules, you're going to hell. If you don't do this, it's still the same system. So you kind of see where it all originates from. And so if I wanna be the creator of this world based on the rules that have been set that are literally in most old versions of the Bible, which is, thank goodness that we are at a space to where we can stop that. Then I'm going to use blackmail or dark mail, right? In order to hold you captive in some regard. So if you're in a job that feels like, oh, if I don't do these 5 things, this is what's gonna happen. Well, you're not free. If I'm in a relationship, if I don't do these things, then I'm free. It's not, I want to do these things so I have a more abundant relationship. Oh, I want to do this stuff because now this is what my job looks like, right? Or I want to go to church because I can create this beautiful thing with this awesome community. No, it's like, if I don't go to church, I'm going to hell. I'm gonna have a bad week. Well, damn. Right? So we've been living in this construct of dark mail, blackmail, however we want to call it. And it's the same power that the secret societies use. It's the same stuff that was showing up in Epstein files. It's the same thing that's going to be happening in Pax Judaica. It's gonna be the same thing that happens across the board, and it's gonna be the same thing the Antichrist uses to keep us away from ourselves, right? If you do this, you'll get that. If you don't do this, you won't get that, right? And so how do we then build a life of sufficiency and abundance? And so the thing that we have to do within that framework, and you know, you talked about cognition and brain power and the way that we kind of think and we move, but there's also something that I feel like, especially as Black men, that we're disconnected from is how do we truly feel? How do we deepen into that feeling? How do we get back into our body? And there's this exercise I started going through when I went offline where this, you know, I hired this coach and she's amazing. And she sat me and my wife down, but she sat me down and she said, you know, whenever you, whenever this comes up for you, I would talk about my childhood sexual abuse. I'd talk about my incarceration. I would talk about me trying to take my life or Running out of money, whatever it might be. Where do you feel it in your body? Because the body keeps score. So I'd be like, oh, well, I feel it here. I don't know what that means. She said, don't even try to describe it. Don't try to think about it. Just go there and sit with it. Sit and stay. And the longer that I would sit and stay in my body, the more that that pain or that trauma or whatever would just start to unravel because it knew it was safe. It knew it was safe because I wasn't going anywhere and I wasn't trying to mentally masturbate the entire situation to make sense of it to be something else. I just sat with it. I sat in my throat when, you know, I started talking about my, you know, childhood sexual abuse, and I'm like, okay, I don't want to talk about this. And I would go there and I would sit there and it's like, okay, the little boy inside of me that was never heard, that needed a voice, can actually speak now. And it made my voice stronger. So for each of us, it's not only the cognition of what we do with our minds and being able to create clear thoughts and coherent thoughts, but we can't get there if our body is constantly reacting because it's going to throw us out of balance. Right? And the blackmail or the dark mail side of it is if I can say, if you don't watch this news, you're not going to be safe. If you don't go to this thing, if you don't go to this school, if you don't do this or that, it's created a somatic response in our bodies, especially in the Black and brown community. Right? Because, oh, if you don't do these things that white world says you should do, you're not going to be successful. Right? And so for every one of us, for every Black man sitting and listening to this, I don't care who you are, what color you are, but especially you, feel that in your body. Feel that if I have a threat that says, if I can't, then this won't be. If you don't do this, then this won't be. You are now falling back into the system. That's the same Epstein system. It's the same system of governance that created all of the fear and disgust and trauma in this world, and you can go and you can unknot that yourself, that's where we as humanity start to evolve. Because we're no longer, we no longer have an, you can have the most brilliant mind and the most disconnected body, right? And so if I can't get here and here, then I'm not spiritual. I'm just a really fucking smart guy. But if I can connect this together and now my body is aligned with the way that I'm thinking, and my frequency is true, my frequency is pure, I'm speaking from the same place. Now I'm connected. I'm connected with myself and I'm connected with everybody outside of me. And what I speak becomes truth. And that's how, that's how we as men, that's how we as women, that's how we as humanity— I can't speak for women because I'm not one— but that's how we, that's how we save the world. That is going to be the second coming. That's going to be the resurrection. And it can happen whenever we choose it. And we can go through this BS prophetic stuff that everybody says and we can go down that path, or we can make a decision like right now to stop it.

Yeah, I don't think it's bullshit prophetic, but I might've been harsh in it, but it's just about having new integrative worldviews because as religion if religion loses its authority, right, and people lose the stories, right, then something new has to be formed. Yeah. Because we are always focusing on what do we destroy. The question becomes, what do we build in this absence? Because when you destroy systems, you create chaos in this absence, right? So there has to be new order. That's why my messaging today is all about what we build. In the sequence of anything that I talk about, I have to then speak on what I'm building in that same breath, right? And so the Cognitive Wealth Key, the Million Mind Mentorship we want to do to where we really teaching these young men how to develop it, right? And therefore we can save the youth and free the youth, right? In a very real way because without that, like with loss of our past, and this is what media is so important. Right? Which is why I focus on media and I think it's very extremely important. We see Larry Ellison, right? He just bought up everything. Yeah. You understand me? Like he owned TikTok. He just bought Warner. He just got Paramount, rather. He got it all. Crazy. You feel me? He owns everything.

'Cause it wasn't like that 10 years ago.

Exactly. You know, he bought part of Twitter with Elon when Elon hit him up with the famous tweet, you need a billion. He was like, man, I need 2. And he like, bet. Right? We don't even question where money comes from, where it's going, the reason why. And it's like, if we were talking about distractions, we see that this vast monopoly has then formed. And what really is that? That is a control of reality. Right? He's like Thanos connecting there, collecting the reality stone. If I can control the reality, then what I can do is I can position narratives inside of all of the content. That surrounds you, right? Because look, I co-own Twitter, TikTok, Paramount, HBO, all of these shows. Yeah. Right? And so we don't realize how dangerous that is for our digital environment and for our consciousness.

Yeah.

If you don't, you have to think, if I bought all of these stations, I bought TikTok, Twitter, Paramount, all of them, what you think I'mma embed in that? Yeah. You gonna get that God bodyism in every single thing. Mm-hmm. All right. Now, funny enough, you might have some people, like, let's say if somebody from Saudi Arabia bought that, some prince bought it all. Oh no, you can't have the Muslims buying that. Yeah. You know what I mean? They gonna be embedded up this woke stuff. But then y'all don't question this white man at all. Right. You don't know what his beliefs are, what his background is. Right. Right. You're not, you don't care that the people that control your reality and where your children are gonna grow up in the narratives that they see, and that 80% of the films written on Netflix are written by a white man.

Yeah.

Yeah. You don't care that, or they might even be 90%, right? But there was a recent published study about it, you know? And when we think about that, it's like most of what we grew up on, the way we see ourselves, was not written by us. This is why the movie Sinners was important to us because it was us writing ourselves as we see ourselves. Right. Right. And we have been stuck with this false image. They've been falsifying our image, which controls our attitude, our disposition towards self and/or others. And in order to rise out of this mud, you need a great image of yourself. Even if Christians grew up with a great image of a Black Jesus, I think it would've been better for 'em. You know, but you know, Biggie Smalls is the first one who got the Jesus piece and popularized this white Jesus, right? Inside these chains. But those chains was a representation of this colonial mindset that he had. And everybody else that followed him. Because as a Black man, to put, you know, Caesar Borgia on your skin, and that to be your Lord and Savior, what does that mean about those who look like you? So nobody who looks like you looks like your Savior. And then we say color don't matter, yet we make him white. And I always say that Black people are the only people who really believe that, 'cause we the only one who had the white Jesus that didn't look like us. White people, if the color didn't matter, then they would've made him brown skin. You know what I'm saying? They would've made him based on the depiction and the description. And so not that we get caught up in what I do think is a lower caste system of consciousness, which is racial description. But it is important to note even racial differences. When you go to Africa, there are different tribes. You know, you can go back to the Berber people, the Amhara people, which were the Moors, right? They were a people of different belief and ethnicity, right? They all believed the same and they were connected through geography, right? Movement and there was this term called Amazigh, which means, Amazigh mean free people, right? And I think that I love that term because if there's an ultimate term that connects us all, it should be free, right? Are we a free people? You could be Black, you can be Native American, you can be Israelite, you could be Jewish, right? You could be a Negro, you could be a real nigga all you want to. Yeah. You know, and whatever other term we go by, but are we free, right? Is there a national organization of free people, right? Free economic control, right? And we're talking about the forming of organization to where when we connect with each other, we have something that we agree upon, right? And that is where the disconnect is currently, because they, to them, more superseded the term of African, even though African came as a Roman term later, And even if we talking about Africa, these were people of tribes. That's why you tell somebody you Nigerian, they gonna be like, you Igbo? You know what I'm saying? They wanna know what tribe, what people, because that's a new term. All these new terms to describe God's people are disconnecting us. All this language, all this information is disconnecting us. Then we don't honor each other differences.

Right. That's the fun part. That's the beauty.

Yeah, exactly. I'm glad the Dogon people has special cosmic knowledge. Yeah. Right, to where they could chart the stars. Yeah. In the Sirius star system. Systems, and they have their own religious texts and own creation story. And we actually, if we being honest, we have no reason to not believe them.

They were pretty spot on. I mean, they were pretty spot on.

Yeah, if, if the only reason we don't believe them is because it doesn't align with our creation story, right, right. But we also don't know how they were able to do what they've done, right, at all, right, right. And so they say, hey, these celestial beings came and taught us They ain't teach you all that. Yeah. But okay, well then who taught us? Right. If this is our description and our explanation of it, how can you deny it when you have no proof that we're wrong? And our proof is that we know what you don't know. Right. Right? And so that's when you get back to original people on this planet Earth and we get back to the original consciousness on this planet Earth, right? We have to be cold. Cognition is necessary 'cause we have the plan ahead. But we have to be a people that are present. Right. Right. And I think ultimately, as we've been having this conversation about darkness and light, I think that I don't want people to walk away from this conversation not feeling light. Right. I want them to feel like they have the keys to build their own kingdom. Let's go there. That in the midst of all of this darkness, right, if they become the light in the which the way that they live, then we win. So tell us the keys to the light.

Let's go. All right. So we're gonna go between wealth and riches. Okay. Riches are evil. All right. Wealth. Riches are evil. Riches are evil. Wealth is divinity. Wealth is of God. Explain this. All right. If I have to store thing, riches are I'm storing money. I'm storing people. I'm storing energy. That's evil. 'Cause I'm trying to keep it all for myself. Well, can you define evil? Evil to me would be, there's not flow. There's a gap at a point to where I disallow the energy to move. So if there's constant cosmic flow, That's always happening. And I'm always able to give as much as I'm able to receive. Right? And I'm in balance. Evil is when, you know, when they talk about sin, missing the mark. Right? Evil is when I miss the mark. Evil is when I am not actually in my body, when I'm not integrated. Right? And this isn't a bad thing per se. It's just a test and feedback for me to become more balanced.

Well, by definition, evil is bad.

Well, we've given it that definition. We've given it the dualistic definition, right? So we go—

You don't believe evil is bad by nature?

I don't believe— I believe evil is a test. It's just a test to get back to your sovereignty, to get back to your stillness. You go to the Hermetic Laws, right? And you say, okay, well, there's mentalism, right? Everything is all of mine. So you have to be evil to be good? You have to know evil to know good. Right? But do you have to be? I think you'd have to have approached it at some point. Being means that I'm it. So I can't be it and it. I can't be good and bad at the same point, right? I could choose one. I have to know it and then choose the opposite. I have to see it and say, okay, from my witnessing, now I get back into this space. but I can't sit there and I can't be two things at once because I'm only one thing.

So evil in a way that you described it is fear, if anything, because you said that riches is the storing of energy essentially, right? Right. Which would only really come from this fear that is not flowing.

Exactly.

That you will not have enough, so I need to keep what I currently have. Right. Unless you're planning. And if you are operating with this arrow in time and saying that, well, how can riches be evil when wealth is about storing and maintaining for another generation?

But if you always know that you will have it for that generation, then you don't have to store it because it'll be there. You are, you're creating it for that time, right? Do we always know?

Is that, that's the idea that we live in a world where we feel like we're ignorant of what's to come because of uncertainty?

Well, that's the question you have to ask yourself. Are ye gods or are ye not? And if ye are gods and you can create and you're doing greater works than, you know, him, if you can find the kingdom within you, then of course, which you know and you physically embody that, then you know it will always be there.

But we shall die like man, so don't we supposed to pass something down?

Yes, but you pass it down from a knowing that you have now. If I know right now that what I'm going to leave will always be sufficient and more than enough. I can even set it at a number if I choose to, but I know that that number, let's say I set a number of, I'm just gonna throw a random, $50 million out there, right? And I set that number into the world. It's not about me accumulating $50 million. It's about me being the alchemist of that $50 million to where it always flows. And then I also know that, you know, I, I'm not just going to leave something to something that's unworthy. Mm. God doesn't do that to us.

Right. Right. How does a child become worthy enough to receive your blessings, to receive wealth?

They have to find the sovereignty and the love within themself. They have to find their divine spark and their own purpose. So as a father, this has been like the biggest transformative thing for me as a dad. My son's 17. He and I had, you know, I always wanted him to be like me. You know, go play the football, go do the track thing, go to the school I went to, get really good grades. Like I, and I did that all outta fear cuz I wanted to please my father and I never pleased him enough cuz me and my dad don't have a great relationship right now. I love him to death, but we don't have a great relationship. But, you know, I've set conditions around what I want a relationship to look like and it, I want it to be warm. I want it to be, you know, us being honest and vulnerable. Don't tell me just what you think I want to hear. Tell me the truth. Truth, right? And he just wants to tell me what I want to hear. So then with my son, it's— I've created that warm, loving environment for him to say, okay, I don't want you to be me, I want you to be you. And so I'm constantly pushing him back into finding himself, right? If you're trying to please me and you're not pleasing yourself, then we're on that blackmail thing again, right? Darkmail. Yeah, darkmail. We're on that dark— white male thing. I know.

We're on that though.

We're on that. Like, I've created conditionality. It's not unconditional love. So as long as I show him unconditional love, as long as he is able to then find that within himself, that divine spark within himself, he's able to un-knot all of the somatic holds that he has in his body. He becomes worthy to receive. He doesn't need whatever I have to flow to him. He's just now, what he's doing is We're co-creating more abundance. So my son, because he becomes so abundantly full, time travels, if we wanted to call it that, to a space to where he knows that there will be more that's coming. And then what does he do? He creates that in me. Now, instead of being $50 million, it becomes $100 million. Instead of being $100 million, it becomes larger. So then it becomes this abundant wealth pool that's constantly flowing because he knows what he's gonna catch. 10 years down the road. And he's now creating a vibrational match with me so that I'm now also creating that. So he basically has to get—

because I think that a son who's speaking on sons specifically, your father's like a mountain. You have to be on the journey climbing that mountain until you get to the peak. And the peak means that you have gotten to the point where you are equal to your father. And then you get to a point where you plant the flag on that mountain. And that means that you've become greater than. Right. So that I would then say, if I'm listening to you, that when a son becomes worthy of receiving inheritance, he number one has to be on the journey of becoming as great as you are, right? And then ultimately evolving because the true wealth is then raising one that becomes better than you. Exactly. That's leaving the world better than you found it.

Exactly. Exactly. He becomes, and he, he finds, he, he can recognize in him, like for instance, he becomes more vulnerable than me because he can receive more, right? He's going to be a better friend than I've ever been. All of those things. He's going to be a better steward of the gifts. He's going to be more consciously connected, right? And as long as I say like, you don't have to do it like me, do it like you. 'Cause you are your own frequency. You were born at your own specific place and time and the whole thing. Your code is very different than mine. You look different. You act different, the whole thing. You got a different name. But as long as you find your purpose in your frequency and you hold that with full sovereignty, without question, without hesitation, you know, and you just continue to move with what I call silent action, and I can go deeper into that, but you move with silent action without looking at the senses to describe anything. You become worthy to receive, and it's not about me giving you anything. It's about that you have already created this massive container to hold it, and you have actually held me accountable to doing the work so that I can hand it to you.

So basically, your child becoming a steward, a good steward. Yes. Right, to where I feel that you will be a good steward of this wealth. If we look at you, you have practiced stoicism a little bit. So Marcus Aurelius is said and quoted to be a good leader because he did not endured in the trappings of power, right? That he had a level of control and discipline that it was unheard of for emperors at that time because he didn't need to, right? He ruled for the, went to war for like, what, 19 years? And, but he passed it down to a piece of shit son. You understand me? And is the opposite of all of these writings that he had was like, well, why then would you pass down the power of somebody who was opposite of you? Do, right? There was no stoicism in his son, right? You understand me? He knew this before. He knew that his son was this depraved, perverted fool that would then get in power, right? And so I think it was very interesting to just say that, that just because somebody is of your blood doesn't mean that they're worthy, right, of your gifts and your— the rewards of life, right? That you can be passing something down to a child that becomes destructive to the world. So I think that is important to make sure that they are worthy, yeah, of that which they will receive. Right. And I just wanted to kind of set that precedence, as you say, what is evil, right? Because it could be evil to pass down wealth to a child that would then have resources to do bad or do wrong in the world.

Yes. And one thing I will say about what you said there around, um, the reason that I, I started to get into Stoicism, and I'm going to answer the thing that you've— go to what you said there, and I got away from it because I recognized that it was a way for me to contain something that I didn't want to deal Mm. Okay. So if I think about Marcus Aurelius and he was gonna pass down all of this to his son, and I was doing this for a long time, I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna contain my spirituality. I'm gonna contain my thing. I'm just gonna kind of disconnect from my son, my parents, and everybody else, and I'm gonna hold this for myself. And then what happens is, is that all of those little young versions of those people, which was always, always a part of me, come knocking on the door. And eventually you are forced to now deal with the thing you've ignored. Mm-hmm. Right? So with stoicism, oftentimes, and I'm gonna say not always the case, it's what I found is that I would limit myself from being able to feel certain things that were now showing up in these little, like, I mean, I could call it my son. I used to call him a little demon every now and then because he was showing up a specific way that I was not dealing with it in myself. And I hid it away and I was like, I just don't wanna bother with it. So then I just start creating this kind of like unworthiness container that eventually I'm gonna have to deal with. Eventually I'm gonna die and I might have to give this to him. So now for me, how do I deal with it in myself? How do I find that little boy, you know, 9-year-old version of me that is now showing up as my kid, that if I don't heal him, he is— I'm gonna have to deal with it one day.

And I'm gonna like make me think about wealth as such a selfish thing in a sense And it's such a dangerous thing. It is. We talk about generational wealth, but it's like if you have all this abundance of wealth, right? And let's say you got $50 million to pass down. Do you pass it down just because that's your son, right? Or your daughter? Or is there a better cause in which your money can flow? Yes. And which one makes you a good person? Mm-hmm. 'Cause it, it, you feel like you're a good person 'cause you passing it down to family. So if that's what matters, creating this institutional power, right, over time, irregardless of the morality, right, of the family in which you're creating. And if you lack it within yourself, then of course you're going to produce that within your offspring, right? Or do you say, man, I can get this 50 to my child, but there's this other movement over here that I think actually be more beneficial to humanity. I know they probably don't have a father to pass them down anything, but they will be a better steward. That's right. Yes. And I think at the ultimate level of humanity is that you're not trying to just find family members to pass it down unless there's one worthy. Right. But you're finding a worthy cause, right? A worthy institution, a worthy movement, right? Somewhere where your actual money can do good.

Yeah. 100%. That makes more sense to me. 'Cause I mean, I have my son, I mean, I do pretty well. My son doesn't live with me. He lives with his mother. And there was a point in time where I gave him the option to live with me and he wanted to go back. And because I had some rules and some structure around like, hey, this is just stuff we don't do in this house. Like, you know, cause some shit's just nasty, you know? Some of it is just take off your shoes when you come in, you know, simple things like that. Yeah. Cleanliness.

Yeah. Cleanliness.

Little Negro. You know, some of it was like, hey, you know, he wanted to smoke a little weed and I'm like, well, okay, that's cool. Like, why are you doing it?

What is coming up for you?

Tell me why you want to do it. Do this and then let's talk about it together, right? Instead of just like being an escape mechanism. So there were things that I was holding him accountable to. On the other side of it, the, you know, when, when he said, I wanna go back 'cause there's no structure over here. And then now he's starting to live in it and he doesn't really like it anymore and now he wants to come back. Mm-hmm. But I'm like, look, I'll make sure you're always taken care of. You always have your basic needs met. But you know, the stuff that I would do if he was here where I'm like, getting him a car and going overboard 'cause he's 17 driving and all this stuff. He's, he's having to earn it. Oh yeah.

I think that's necessary. Yeah.

And I'm giving him spaces to earn it with me. Like, hey, you know, I have an agency. You can do this, go online and do some AI stuff for me and figure out how to make that work or whatever it might be. But he's having to earn it instead of like beforehand, even out of my guilt for me not being there when he was younger because I was incarcerated for the first 4 years of my life, I would just give him things out of my own guilt. Ah, right. And so he fed on that for a while. And then as he got older and I gave him the space to be like, hey, we're gonna create a container to where you can really start living in this worthiness, he rejected it. And now he's— I don't do as much for him financially. I mean, I make sure he's taken care of. His mom gets child support and all this other stuff. But the other foundation of it is, is that if he really wants something or needs something, he's gonna earn it through me. Mm-hmm. Right? And then through that, and then he holds that worthiness. 17. Right.

You know, and then in smart, most cultures, you, hey, you a man at 13. You know what I'm saying? Like, you go to the Native Americans, man, you, you out there hunting. You doing it. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta go wrangle a bull or something. You feel me? To prove yourself. Yeah. I think that's what's lost where there's not a moment of detachment for youth to where they can realize themselves into adulthood. Yeah. It's become the same way we do in schools is age-based measurement versus like, no, you're mature enough to now take care of yourself. Yeah. Right. And I want you to be prepared versus protected. Cause the preparation allows you to deal with the world. The more I protect you, the less prepared you are to deal with the world. Right? But I don't wanna lose sight of where we was going on the wealth and the riches. Oh, wealth and the riches.

Yeah, we made a detour. Yeah, we did. We went back.

I know people like, Keys ain't gonna never get back to the point. Nah, I got y'all. Wealth and the—

I've been listening. All right. So wealth and riches. We were down the path of riches being evil. And wealth being sovereign, wealth being divine, okay? When we can't look at money as what the world has taught us money is, 'cause it's not. We see it coming in different currencies now, right? You know, it used to be, you know, crops, then it went to bronze, then it went to gold. Now we got Bitcoin, you know, who the hell knows what's next? But money will always evolve into something that makes sense, that creates a scarcity model that we can work off of, okay? The most scarce thing in the world though is humans. Mm-hmm. Right? So when you think about wealth and you think about like, I mean, there's a whole industry around human, which is horrible, but there's a whole industry around it that actually is probably very much so the core ever since the company was created, right back in slave times, is still the same permanent thing that creates global market movement.

Mm-hmm. Human capital.

Right. Human capital. Now when we take back our sovereignty and recognize our own human capital, and we are able to become, you know, the, the, the, what I would call the alchemy machine, right? Of wealth, of how it gives and how it moves and how it flows. And we don't try to store it. You don't have to store it. It just comes. Like, I mean, I have more examples than I could shake a stick at where all of a sudden it's like, okay, I need this much money. I need half a million dollars to drop in. And because I become worthy of it, it shows up. When I don't, I'm chasing it like crazy. I'm literally over here looking for the thing to happen and, you know, trying to make payroll or trying to do this with my company and things like that. And I'm like, okay, no, I'm gonna be the most still worthy being I can be. And it's very esoteric because it's a mind state and a heart feeling. And it has absolutely nothing to do with anything that I can do from the senses. But what ends up happening is I start moving through my senses and I become a better integrator, a better operator. I know how to operate on a sales call. I know what the thing to ask for. I know how to be bold in this position. I mean, you and I have been on those conversations before. I know what to call on at any given time and it just shows up. Mm-hmm. So you speak it and it becomes life, and that's true wealth. And so it's not about what comes tomorrow at all, right? It's about being able to set the intention today and be accountable to it. Maybe you gotta fire some people. Maybe you have to hold, you know, like, you know, I have a really amazing, you know, head of my creative team and we had a crazy accountable conversation because we lost two clients on creative and we were like, okay, well, what's the deal with this? What are we not doing? What are we not seeing? Right. And beforehand through my, um, through my selfishness of not wanting to deal with conflict, I would've allowed that person to continue to go down their path and hope they figured it out. And chased after it by like throwing good money after bad money. And within a week we created an entirely different engine inside of our ecosystem that now can stand up to the best creative teams in the world, best creative, you know, anything in other, other creative agencies in the world. But it took going through that crucible of accountability and responsibility to make that happen. And it had absolutely nothing to do with money. It had nothing to do with like, let me go chase after the thing. It had to do with, her and I getting so still and accountable with what we were creating in our lives, that magic just started to happen. That's aligning the frequency to create wealth. And it sounds like, you know, what is the practical thing that I do with this on a daily basis? And there's— how do I put this? There's not a practical thing to do, right? It's not like a— I mean, it's sit with yourself, know yourself, love yourself enough to say, I can create my life. If you wanted, I don't care who you followed in religion, go follow one person that you really like, right? That has been, you know, that is one of like the core pillars of any religion. They're doing it. Just do that. I don't care who it is. I don't care if it's Muhammad. I don't care if it's freaking Moses. I don't care if it's David. I don't care if it's Jesus. I don't care who. There are examples of these avatars, of these ascended masters that have done these things. And if you do the Buddha, just do that. And if you do that on a daily basis, the wealth will come to you. You won't want for anything.

Yeah, I agree. I think that even as we think about money, it's a frequency. Yes. If you're vibrating underneath the frequency of money, you will not attract it. Right. Right. Nobody, if you walk in a room, you got bad energy, nobody won't be around you. No. You know what I'm saying? Like you expelling people out of your reality, you repelling them. Them, right? But if you got good energy all the time, people go find you, they go seek you out, you understand me? And the resources that they have was attached to that, opportunities. When people think about you and your name rings vibration right now, all of a sudden opportunities are attached to you, right? And that goes into, as you was talking about wealth, right? And when you're in this state of what I'll call the top floor frequency, Top floor is like just what's required to maintain a higher frequency every day. Right. And in that, it's like the analogy of going to the top of a building and that's where the party of everybody that's wealthy is at. You don't walk in there with bad energy. No. 'Cause when people, one thing I have noticed, people of extreme wealth, man, they always got good energy. I'm gonna be honest with you. And when I, by good energy, I mean it's very, high. It's very jovial. How you doing? Let me talk to you. It's not very off. No. When y'all in the room, especially of other wealthy individuals, man, who are you, man? What you got going on? Oh, I like that, man. It's just, it's consistent. Like, man, where you get this shirt from? That's a nice kimono, man. I like that, man. Those boots you got. Very interesting personality and stuff. Tell me all about this. Right. Like they're very interested. Their frequency is high. Right, right. In order to be more interesting, you have to be interested. Right. Right. And so imagine you then come in that room, you ain't got much money. So you just, man, these niggas in here got all this money. Fuck it. So now your energy is low. Yeah. So you don't get invited back. Had nothing to do with your financial status. Right. Had everything to do with your frequency was off. Your vibrations was off in the room. Yeah. I got a partner named Simba, man. He's always high vibration. We was talking about this top floor frequency. He know everybody from LeBron. He done wrote for Will Smith. Like, I mean, he just, he's just connected. Yeah. No matter what, because he got one of them energies, right? People want to be around. He talk to you, he gonna be genuine. That frequency creates, right, rhythm. It creates flow. It's magnetic and magnetism, right? Attracts because it's a gravity that pulls. And so I think a lot of people don't realize how their low frequency keeps them out of money, right? Because money is an energy. It is. And so once you get your frequency right, man, opportunities come. Expect good things and good things will occur. Yeah. But the less you expect them and the more you are surprised by them, your reality is then saying that, oh, you're not used to this. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, once you get in the flow of money, always be it. Be the money in the first place. 100%. Walk in a room knowing this is you, right? Don't, don't, oh man, things are not getting paid. Well, That is a thought you are ruminating on.

Yeah.

And rumination is not good, right? It is problem without solution. You're just constantly circulating your thoughts. So I look at things and I've taken a walk into the spiritual side, into a deep place. And I remember one thing I can say about fear, because fear is a low vibration and the frequency shift happens at courage, 'cause courage requires a higher vibration. Right. But most people live in shame, they live in guilt, they live in fear. There's no money in that. Nothing else. No money. Like, it's a dead sea, right? The vibration occurs through courage. So what do most entrepreneurs do? They take risk. Yeah, right. And when they start taking these risks, it's not the risk, it's the courage that's required to take the risk. On that side is where the money comes in, because money likes courage. Energy likes courage. Courageous people make you feel good. Yeah, right. And so what do we spend the most money on? Pleasure. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? What we, what we, our entertainment, the food, right? Our social spaces, right? Luxuries in life, right? We're spending money on pleasure. Why? Because it makes us feel good. Right. So if you are a frequency that exists at the, at the feeling, you understand me, then it will come to you and it will attract. And so you have the name Abundance 1000, right? Being in a state of abundance. Joy is like one of the highest feelings. Yeah. You understand me? Like if you are a joyful person, I promise you, you will be wealthy for the rest of your days. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Be joyful and watch wealth come. Yeah. Right? Because joy is a state of high wealth. Because if you are joyful, guess what? Wealthy people want to be around you 'cause they want to feel joy. Right. You emanate it within an atmosphere. You change the molecules of the environment. And so around you, your aura, your aura, your field is attractive. And they say, man, even passion. Yeah. When you see somebody with great passion and they speaking on things that they believe in, even if you don't agree with them, you're like, all right.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because it has nothing to do with what they saying. It's about the energy that they emanate. Mm-hmm. And once you understand that secret of energy and vibration and frequency, Right? Life does switch. It does. It is a switch. So I like what you said as wealth is divine because wealth is when a person starts to understand those divine laws of the universe. Yeah. And they live according to that and they be, they become intentional. Yeah. And I think that intention should be a bigger word in people's life because we currently have a society where an intention deficit disorder. Mm-hmm. They do not how know how to align their actions with their intentions. So instead you start sinning. Which you become distracted. Right. And so I call like financial sinning is when you look at your, you look at your bank statement and you look at things that have nothing to do with your goals or your vision. Right. You are sinning 'cause these are not aligned. Yeah. You going to places that got nothing to do with your goals or vision. You are sinning. They not aligned. It's off target. You understand me? Like focus. Yeah. Right? And if you can and you live that intentional life, then everything you do has Direction. And when you are directional, you say, oh, I know where I'm going, which I know why I'm doing what I'm doing. And that's where the wealth starts to align. Yeah. So if my mind is intentionally saying that, yo, this is how my mind works, well, let me live a life that is intentionally aligned with the way my mind works. Right? And then I feel good doing it because it's part of my gift. Yeah. Right? And when I feel good, I increase my frequency of vibration and then wealth automatically follows. It's formulaic. Mm-hmm.

It always does. Yeah. I think what you just said a minute ago and bringing it back where I said I don't really have something prescriptive, I actually have some prescriptive things that we do in order to generate wealth. So there's a, a class I created called Feel and Grow Rich. You know, Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich. And when I used to do the Think and Grow Rich, I would make it as much, I would make it as fast as I would lose it. I would lose it as fast as I would make it. So I'd get money to disappear. I'd be like, what the hell's going on here? Right? And it's because I couldn't, I didn't embody it. It. So when I started to embody wealth fully in my body and I would show up fully present in that, things started to change. When I started studying Napoleon Hill's book, which I think is a good book— you read it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he got the knowledge from the ancient Kemetic gods, you know what I'm saying? Mystery school knowledge, you know, always going back to Imhotep, you know what I'm talking about? Shout out to the Hoteps. Hey, look, y'all be talking about the Hoteps, but Napoleon And the rest of them, who they studied? The Hoteps, the Imhoteps. Stop playing with it.

Valid, valid, valid. Yeah. So, but he has 13 principles that you go by to generate wealth. There's no accident those 13 are tied to the 13 in Mayan cosmology as well, which actually gets you to the celestial space so that you can ascend. But one of them in there is just what you talked about earlier about imagination. We have to have, be so creative and have such an imagination and become so delusional. Delusional, right? And delusional not in a way to where, I mean, I did this where my family thought I was absolutely bananas because I became so delusional about where I wanted to go that they were like, dude, you're nuts. And it came true because I knew through and through in my body, in everything that I was doing, that this was going to be my new reality, right? And as a human being, we have the capacity, and this is our creatorship, this is our 'Ye are gods.' This is our, you know, we can create the kingdom from within. When you can fully embody that and you can take those 13 principles, go read the book if you want, or you can take the class that I've got. You know, I've got it to where you pay what you want and you get it, right? So it's not a big deal, but you, you go in and you do it. And part of my construct that's different than Napoleon's, he has the 13, but I tie it to the 7 Hermetic principles because you have to have those principles to understand that there's this other force that's been created by this architect of our reality that if you don't know how to play with that, you're going to lose it as fast as you make And then if you don't know how to deal with your feelings, that's a whole other thing, 'cause your little inner child will kick your ass over and over again. So I've incorporated that into like one seamless system. But, you know, for a lot of us, we don't know how to deal with our inner child. We don't know how to deal with the principles of the reality that are basically running this whole thing that other people use in order to keep us darkmailed or blackmailed. And you can run that playbook of, of, you know, Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich and go through those 13 principles, but you're gonna continue to lose it as fast as you gain it. 'Cause that's, that was my case. You know, getting outta prison, had nothing, started over again, you know, made a couple hundred thousand dollars the first year out. I'm like, oh, this is great. I'm doing it right. Mm-hmm. And then all of a sudden I got up to, you know, 7 figures and then I lost it and then it came back again and I lost it. Then it came back again. And this is in 13, 14 years, right? So I can only imagine if I had these principles in order in order to not be building it. It was all, all that I did before is I was building out of fear because I wanted to be more, 'cause I was running away from a version of myself. And then once I started to recognize that that version of myself was only trying to help me, and I brought those two things together, every dollar that comes in, it sticks, but it also can be facilitated out. But as I, as I facilitate it out, as I tithe out and I give out, it comes back tenfold every time. So I just, I'm so excited to give away. Because I know how fast it's gonna come back because I know how I'm actually worthy to receive. So that's, that's like more of a prescriptive thing that people can do in order to truly generate wealth. And I'd say as, as, as Black men, you know, we've got this, you know, we've got a lot of generational trauma, a lot. You know, we've got the slavery stuff, we've got, you know, civil rights, we've got, you know, hell, broken families. You know, I mean, I look at my family, I mean, I've got the, the largest, probably not largest, probably most Black men do, but womanizers like crazy. I became one of them, you know, because hell, you know, back in the day in the slave trade, you know, you got disassociated from your family. You had to find another woman. If you were actually of, you know, you know, of presence, you got— you find the baddest one on the lot, right? And you do the thing, right? And so you're always having to shift and move. And so we did— it's hard for us to create family. It's been hard for us to create that over and over again. And so now it's even and how we as Black men start to do that, that will also help us generate wealth because we're not trying to diversify this and then, you know, break the, you know, as we start to do well financially and then the next pretty thing comes along or the next something comes along and you can't honor your wife or you can't honor the one that you're with, then you'll keep breaking that family structure because as you get more money, oh, now I gotta go on to the next one. I go on to the next one, go on the next one because you attract a different thing.

Well, that's a novelty.

Yeah, it is novelty seeking.

So it is also part of this cognitive misalignment, understanding your brain works, because then you go into ADHD. Yeah. You understand me? Which a lot of people don't realize, and this is the problem with society, is that we over-moralize things without diagnosing them. Right. And once you put them in a practical sense, you can see that the brain is constantly seeking stimulation. Right? Because when you look into those moments, you realize that it had nothing to do with the woman. Yeah, right. For a lady, had nothing to do with the man. You just wanted to be stimulated, right? Right. And the same thing we do when we scrolling on our phone, right? Right. We're cheating on the time that should be married to our goals, right? But we're seeking dopamine. Yeah, right. Something that gives us a short-term pleasure, right? Because we need consistent novelty. And now creativity and the creators are utilizing the same manipulation tactics that big marketing companies have always done, right? Let me put a hook in the first 3 seconds. Right? And so you're getting scientific on this thing and now you have an algorithm that's studying you and always just stuck scrolling. And then what are you scrolling on? Pleasures, desires, right? Constant feeling. And so same thing happens in life. If your brain is not registered to where you can, it's producing the serotonin, which allows you to manage yourself over time. Mm-hmm. So in order to become successful at any given task, you have to have the right production of serotonin within a brain. Right. If that is not correct, then you have an imbalance. So therefore I wrote the things down that I wanted to get done, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, but at the end of the day, nothing got done. Right. It's not that you did not have the intelligence. Right. You cannot get yourself to do the things that you know. Right. Right. So therefore instead you start seeking pleasure, right? Where you are not being productive. Right. Productivity allows you to then produce that serotonin that allows you to be calm. That says that I can manage these executive function over time to go from step 1, 2, 3, 4 till I'm done, and I don't need dopamine to get me through it. I will be calm and regulated, right? But in an unregulated system of stress and anxiety, right, and the way they steal our brains with memory, where the average attention span is 67 seconds and on YouTube is 7 minutes, right? Right. So therefore, if you're watching a high-level conversation and it's an hour, you know, go, you go get to 35 minutes maybe, Some people only get to 7, which means how much in that have you left off that you cannot even get access to, right? There's wealth, and you think of it like that, there's wealth you can't get access to because you don't have the attention span for it, right? You can't focus long enough. It might have been the last sentence in a 2-hour interview, 3-hour interview that you needed that would change your life, right? But you can't get through it, right? Right? And so now you can't be intentional, you can't be directional, and this creates chaos. So what happens in man the same way is that when we see things, because you can't be productive in life or because you're stressed out, you start to seek novelty in the same way. Yeah. That expression occurs over and over and over. And so you need to first be able to regulate your system, right? And you have to have systems of accountability. So the practice of externalization, right? Externalization is just simply being able to take what's internal and make it external, right? Writing things down is very important. Oh yeah. It is so much intention in the writing process, but then putting notes everywhere. And as my brother Neo, Nero always talks about, be cognitive of the old frequency because there is a new you with this intention of, I don't, I'm not doing that thing again. I'm this person. And then old frequency, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, look at that ass over there. You understand me? Go look at that bag over there. Go spend money on this. Hey, they got a party over there. Go there. That old somebody, your partner call you up, man, remember what we used to? Why you reminding me of my old frequency? Right. Right. So your new frequency has to create an environment, systems of accountability. This literally allows your mind, right, to start operating within, or your brain rather, to operate within the executive function. —right— so that you can start being focused and you can start executing. Because when you have the ADHD, you literally can't do it. That's nothing to do with you morally, has nothing to do with your intelligence, your brain function. And we were not always meant to be in this world of overstimulation. Not at all. And because everything has become generalized, like we generally kind of put these labels on everybody as if that's how everybody minds work, right? Like, no, some people are, have, have like, I'm a pattern synthesizer. Like I have high complexity, multiple inputs, and my brain sees patterns that I cannot always communicate. Right. So when it might look like I'm doing something random because I'm jumping to all these places because I'm seeing patterns. And then at the end, I could arrange that right into a concept that makes sense. But at first, where the hell was he going with all this? This. I know the feeling, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it's the same thing. I just want people to understand that, you know, you have to take out the moralistic aspect of a lot of these things that you are attaching to it, right? Because we live in a world that no other people of the time had to deal with. And it's easy to say, man, be good, don't do this, don't do that. They are building military-grade weapons so that you do it, right? Trillion-dollar machines so that you do it. Not only that, your neighbor is now utilizing the same science to manipulate you. They're trying to sell you things you don't need. Right. Right. Everybody's trying to get each other to sin. Right. That's the world we live in. That's the market. And in a demoralized world, oh man, what do you even have as a compass that makes you intentional in the first place? What even grounds you to say, this is my standard, I'm not gonna do this. Why? What is your reason why? This is why Islam, and not even, you know, we always say there's no compulsion in Islam. This is why I don't try to push anybody to be a part of anything. But this is why it's so dangerous to the West, because Islam is anti-capitalism in many ways, right? And it destroys a system that has to thrive off infinite greed. And when they introduce fiduciary duty in this country, They made it impossible for America to be a good country because if your business model dictates that you have to put profit over people, right, then it makes you a devil because now you're beholden to the stakeholders or the investors. And now when somebody comes around, your pharmaceutical company, and say, look, this drug is gonna put another 3 billion on our balance sheet, but has side effects of, you know, suicidal ideation. You gonna be pissing when you burning. You gonna be thinking about the devil. You know, all the little disclaimers at the bottom. We gotta push it through 'cause I gotta send it over to the people and say, look, this is gonna make us another 3 billion. What y'all say? They gonna say yes. So now we gotta do it. So now the CEO doesn't even control his company once you start going public. And so capitalism has no end. End, right? Is a billion enough? 2 billion? A trillion? There's no end to it. It's infinite. It's a monster. So that's why I want people to understand, if we're living in society, give yourself grace. Stop and understand yourself. Stop understanding the way your brain works. Ask yourself why. That other person may just be living a life that they're cognitively aligned with, right? This other, this other man, he may just, you know, he had his sweetheart since high school, right? And maybe that's just cognitively what aligns with him, right? Maybe it's not that he's more disciplined than you. Maybe he never wanted anything else. But if you want a lot more, it requires a lot more to calm that beast within.

Yeah, 100%. It's interesting you said, um, what you said about Islam and then you said about America. So in the, in Genesis where they talk about, you know, the cherubims that they talk about, he said after he drove man out, This is in Genesis 3:24. After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way back to the tree of life. So if you go back and you look at the sun that went east and the sun that went west, right? Back from Abraham, sun that went east, right? Oh, Islam. Sun that went west. Is this all Judaism, right? Which birthed Christianity and everything else and kind of where we are in this modern era. If you look at even geographically where we are, it's almost, and I'm not saying that any of this is the answer, but it's very interesting that what you kind of talk about, you know, from an Islam perspective is this East that potentially is guarding even all the way up to the Temple Mount out in Israel right now, which is sitting there where nobody goes. And it's like, you know, this whole thing is being guarded to stop this third kind of temple building, which is supposed to be the beginning of the end for this version of our reality, which would then set this Pax Judaica in the system. But all of that is very interesting though, like correlating-wise, that that's kind of the case and it's guarding us from this tree of life that when we become worthy of it, then all of a sudden life starts to expand. I don't know if that means anything, but it just kind of came to me as you were saying that related to the construct or, you know, the notion of Islam.

Well, what era are we in? You know, if we start talking about going into a new age, of time, because that's important. Like, as much as the gods are conscious of the new era, so is the devil. He understands that if it's your time to build, then it's his time to destroy, right? It's of his time to build, then it's our time to destroy, right? And the problem sometimes, I believe, that is that sometimes we spend so much time time on his world and not enough on our own, right? We're so enamored by his falling but not ours rising, right? And these two things can happen at once. Even he was talking about it earlier, he was talking about just the 7 days of creation. And if we think about time in a sequence of events moving forward, of step 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, That's a limitation, right? Based on language expression, right? Even our perception of reality and time itself. Right. That creation is happening at the same moment as now still. Because if time is something that exists all at once, if you will, right? Not something that exists in a sequence of events. That's a chronological order that is a Western man concept of time. Right. Right. Right. But if we think of things in a cyclical nature, right, then the beginning is happening at the same time as the end. Yeah. Right. And this is why we have what we consider windows of opportunity, right? And when you are in the window of time, you ask yourself, what is this time right now about? Now you can ask the question or you can answer it. To ask, to be somebody who questions is to be a very wise man. So any space that does not allow you to question only wants to control. Because in the question you find God. Right. Right. I was always taught to question. You question God. Right. Because if you question God, then he answers. True. But if you do not question God, then you don't get an answer.

You don't get an answer. Yeah.

So man tells you not to question God, but if you have a direct relationship with God, why don't you just ask him? I am, you know? Yeah. So are you trying to control my relationship with God by putting these rules on it? Yeah. Right? When you don't need a book to connect with God. Yeah. Right? No matter, and we are in the season of Ramadan and I'm traveling, but when you are connecting and getting closer to God, it's more so about emanating in your righteousness and that consciousness. 'til you have that Christ consciousness. And to me, I like breaking things down practical. I know people who are scholars and all of that be like, Keys, be oversimplifying things. But that's the way my mind works.

That's the way we gotta do it.

Yeah. Yeah. It's my cognitive alignment. Take my test and you'll learn yours. But it is to me consciousness, and this I get from Mother Tonetta. She says she would read the Quran over and over every week. A week, right? From COVID to end, nothing else, just the Quran.

Yeah.

And the point was to align her thoughts with the lines of God. So imagine that those are the only thoughts that you can have because that's all that you're consuming. Yeah. Then that's the only way you can think. Yeah. Right? And I think it's a very powerful way because then your mind starts to circulate. And once it becomes crystallized, right? Because what is a crystal, right? It is perfect geometry, right? Trapping energy. Right. Right. And if your mind can be tapped in when your environment is trying to distort you and get you to move left or right when you should be going forward, right? But when you can crystallize that consciousness, you become a revolutionary. That's true. You become like Jesus Christ. Yeah. Right? He was somebody, he wouldn't let it go. No. Like, no, I see a higher world. 'Cause he went to Egypt when he was young. And what he did, he went and got that knowledge. He opened up them gifts. He came back woke. Yeah. He ready. He ready. Yeah. He came back woke and be like, man, y'all tripping over here. Like, I can't allow y'all to keep destroying humanity. My mind been opened up. You feel me? And from there he wouldn't stop talking. He preached it to every person he could. He was in the hood. Yeah. You understand me? And then he, the women listening and they like, Jesus, you wild. You talking like that? Cat. Here's some money, Mary Magdalene. Yeah, I got you some money. Other wealthy women coming around. Yeah, I'm gonna help you with this mission. Who helped Jesus? Women, right? Who helped Prophet Muhammad? Women. Yeah, you understand me? Yeah, that's how they got funded, women. Yeah, so capitalism disconnects us and makes us think that, oh, you as the protector, you just gonna be the provider. Provision had nothing to do with capital. Capitalism doesn't want women supporting men of great vision, right? You understand me? Because they try to make it look like it's a weakness. Right. No, it don't matter who was bringing in the funds. It's about, is it behind something righteous? Yeah. So now we turn this whole 50/50 thing into this competition. Yeah. That your manhood is connected to your funds. Well, if that's the case, then Jesus is not a man. Jesus wasn't rich. No. Nobody said Jesus was 6 feet.

But he was wealthy. Yeah, he was wealthy.

Yeah. But how do you want him? You, you, you, you say you want a man, you don't describe your Lord and Savior. Yeah. But you believe he was a physical being. Yeah. I'm trying to understand this. You a Muslim woman, you, you only describe Prophet Muhammad. Yeah. Describe your leader. You love Malcolm X. Malcolm X wasn't a rich man. Right. So he wouldn't be enough for the modern woman. Right. Right. But who supplanted those thoughts in your mind that tell you that good men are not enough? Right. Righteous men are not enough. Divine men are not enough. Why? Because they have not found success within capitalism, right? They have not become rich in the ways of the world. Poor righteous teacher has nothing to do with your actual physical money. Are you poor in the ways of the world? Is the world rewarding you, right? And when you are of the world or in the world, then you are not in heaven. You cannot build a kingdom in heaven, right? And so we need to get back to understanding our relationship in harmony with each other because the greatest relationship we can have is with the divine feminine.

Dude, you know what's crazy? I wish, I wish, and this is not me just saying this, I truly wish that you could just like blockchain my thoughts. 'Cause I was like, I wonder what his take is on the divine feminine. Oh man, I love it. I was thinking that about 5, 10 minutes ago. 5, 10 minutes.

He's gonna turn the divine feminine to the divine masculine and the divine masculine to the divine feminine. Yeah. Because the devil inverts. Yeah. He inverts every picture upside down or opposite so that you don't know the truth.

Truth. Yeah. Now I will say the, the, the greatest gift in this past year, you know, from when I went offline and almost tried to tear my life, is how to actually hold that feminine space within myself so that I can reflect and see it outside of me. And what's happened with my wife is I, I could have never have imagined a relationship like that. And it's deeply relationally driven, spiritually driven. It shows up in our finances, like everything. We used to like run our company together. We stopped doing that because we recognized like all these codependent patterns that we had. And man, I'm telling you, she is in her feminine in such a way that the way that the world shows up— because what I recognize about women is they work in the same cycles of the moon, right? Which is why they have, you know, the whole menstrual cycle is 28 days. They specifically know how to work in a space that we as men have no idea where it comes from. And when they can tap into that, The wealth that comes to us as we become integrated with it and we can hold that space so that they can truly feel contained and safe is like, it's game over. And I didn't know if, and I don't know if the audience was ready for that, but nah, they ready.

This high-level conversation.

Yeah. You know, but what I would say is that if you want a path to wealth, it's around how you can honor the feminine.

Yes. I believe that. And, and I think to honor it for men, is not thinking that you need to become it.

Exactly.

Because then you don't make space for them to be divinely feminine if you are. Right, right. And I think that's where we have lost— like, we talk about patriarchy, yeah, right? And patriarchy, a lot of patriarchy is conflated with capitalism, right? Because a lot of what capitalism is, is a lot of these systems. And we don't know a lot of times how to directly recognize that, right? That is really a system of money and greed. Like, Follow the money in America, you always find the devil at the end. Yeah. But if we start talking about patriarchy, we also have to be more specific as well to talk about white patriarchy and white patriarchal intellect and white patriarchal capitalism. Right. But patriarch gets demonized. Right. When we talk about patriarchy. And so then we would say the father is absent and then a man is demonized for that absence. But when we're saying that, we're saying the patriarch is absent. Yes. Right? And so if he is not a leader in his home, right? If he is not there as a protector, right? There providing provision and being a prophet in his home, then the patriarch is missing. Then we see an imbalance in the world because the young men cannot become patriarchs. Yeah. Right? And so therefore we do not have the narrative in our mind. We do not have the story to really understand things. We have narrative warfare. Where it takes these words and we don't think about the ramification that comes along with it. If you tell the young man that men are toxic, and when you say toxic masculinity, you're saying being a man is bad because you're not talking about or describing healthy masculinity, right, at all, right? And what is more purposeful for a young man? Just to give him the clean glass. Tell him what is good. Tell him what a good man is. Tell him what a great man is. Show him a great man, right? Right. But if you are a woman that gets on and practices misogyny and talks bad about men every chance that you get, and you wrap your whole entire life around feminism, and some of this is just disguised hate for men, right, then you are a net negative for the world. Right. Right. Because ultimately you should not raise children. Anybody that has a hateful spirit, whether it's towards men or women, shouldn't raise children. You should not be a parent. Right. Right. You should stay abstinent so that we don't even get the accident of your offspring, right? So yeah, because we need love in between us, we need harmony in between us, and that means that we have to— of course there's a lot of healing and a lot of learning, and it's a lot of redefining and relearning and unlearning that has to happen so that we can get back into harmonious ways. And if you want to see people that are living like that, study the indigenous people. Yeah. And I was watching the show, Will Smith, it's called Pole to Pole, and I don't like the name, pause, but he did use my audio to help promote it, so I'm gonna need some of my ones, Will. But anyway, he went to go visit an indigenous tribe of people. Yeah. And it was beautiful, I'm not gonna lie. And you have to imagine, like, when he was describing the problems in the world, I believe, He was talking about, I think it was he describing the enemy or evil or something he was describing. And, but he was saying, this is what I see wrong with the world. And he pulled out a phone and he showed Will Smith and he was like showing them the poisoning of the waters and the land and the seas and how to try to get these corporations and these companies to stop destroying the earth. Because for them, they live in it. Like to them, there's no difference in destroying their home. It's an extension of their life, their way of life. And because we've constructed things about ownership, you own this home and you own this land and you can do what you want with it and we'll cut this down so we can make more money for what? Right when we're destroying the beauty of the world. When I went to Uganda, it's the most beautiful place I've ever been. To everywhere you look, you could just see, oh my God, views and views and views. Then it was just like, this is so wealthy. How could you come here and be like, this is what we're going to destroy? And it makes me think about, um, the developed world, that we're overdeveloped, right? Right. Like, we become overdeveloped. We develop too much. Yeah. We cut down the most beautiful things in the world to ugly buildings. That architecture is ugly. Yeah. Right? It's not even that beautiful architecture. It's not timeless. Right. And it's not even, we can easily design things that flow with nature, but we don't even do it. We can create buildings that also utilize nature, right? But we are not doing that. Instead, we cut it down because we need grids of control. Yeah. Right? And so when I seen that indigenous man, the way he was explaining it, man, connected me in a way. That had me just thinking about indigenous people and how they always prophesied. The Hopi people had prophesied this, right? The fall of the world. And they were talking about when we're not living in harmony and when great technology comes, right? And this is going to have effects on the weather and climate because we're destroying, because we have a connection to Gaia. We have a connection to the earth. Yeah. Right? We are a cosmic people, but our disconnection from nature is harming us. We've given it away. And how can we love our women, right? And we're disconnected from nature when nature is feminine. Everything feminine we're violent towards. We're violent towards the earth. We're violent towards the seas, right? We're violent towards our own emotions. We're violent towards our women. Women, right? And so that violence is at the core of society.

Yeah.

And that violence is actually what allows society to thrive, right? Because you have to be violent to women in a capitalist society because capitalism is only masculinity, right? In the essence of rationality and logic and reasoning. This is why they had to come up with the movement of romanticism, right? It was a movement to bring in feeling and emotion right, and these love and things of that nature as a counterbalance to a world that had become so industrial and rational and reasoning. It's like, damn, do y'all even love women anymore? Yeah. Now of course this is white people talking to white people, but if you look at times in history, they only consider love in the bedroom when they can be soft and affectionate. And it shows up in the movies where the king is not affectionate to the queen until they're in the bedroom having a moment. Then after that they go back to damn near being enemies. Yeah. Right? That's not normal. That's not warm. No, that's not normal. Right? And so we've been around this for so long, and media has perpetuated this as a normal mindset to have. Right. And we've been mimicking and mirroring that. And so we've become so cold, right? Because we need to be dominant, we need to be conquerors, and we need to be leaders. Correct. Right? But that also means that we need to be violent to the feminine. And that violence is a destruction of the world and it shows up.

It's showing up. As within, so without.

100%. And look at these files and these, what are they violent towards? Women. Women. Yeah. Women and children.

There's no innocence in that. Yeah, it's funny you say that. It's almost like, and the younger that they went with the women, the young children, it's like you're stopping the awareness of what humanity should be. By oppressing it as a micro— that's like a microcosm effect of it.

Well, think about that. What happens to a human being? And those things describe babies. Yeah. But think about, and this part gonna be on our Patreon. Yeah. Right, we drop clips of some of this, but this part be on our Patreon, so speak freely. Yeah. But they talked about, Peace, family. Are you ready to build outside the matrix to where you have a space of people that are your own tribe, that are highly aligned community of networking resources that you can see on one dashboard? The problem that I've had and many creators have had this whole entire time is I'm tired of dancing for the algorithm, fighting for followers that have already chosen to align with us, right? What happens when you go to different cities and you're trying to connect with people, but there's no single source of truth for that connection, right? There's no way to know who is all within, right, your database, who has which resources. You're trying to call everybody and it's scrambling. There's no organization. There's no streamlined process. I believe in creating digital nations, and those digital nations, although they may start in the cloud, they have real-life activation on the ground. Whether we want to create fractional ownership systems to where we buy land and all those who participate get a key to that land and get ownership within it. Whether we want to build businesses or activate free lunch programs for the city and the community. Things like this have been happening for a very long time, but we now have the technology that can streamline the process. On the Zion app, we decided to build on the Zion platform because I wanted to create the High Level Nation, but I wanted somewhere the whole world exists at once, right? And the way we set it up is you can get a passport into the world. Right? I want the education to be free and the passport, it just allows you to be able to travel and get access to these resources. Therefore, my resources become yours and yours become mine, and it becomes a space of mutual value and contribution, right? The way we setting it up now, and I gave a breakdown about this at the last high-level conversation we did on tour, right, is that we're going to have passports and we're going to have visas. We're going to make sure that you are actually someone that is highly aligned. So therefore you get a visa. Once we figure that you're qualified and we can build with you, that's when you are able to be qualified to get you a passport. Now out here in this city in New York that I'm shooting in right now, there's an interesting case study, right? Right, in the early 1800s, early 1900s, right over at the Gramercy Park. I was trying to walk in, but I couldn't get in, and the guy at the gate told me that this is a private park. I thought it was a public space. I was ready to sit down Then I read up on it and I realized that it is owned by some of the surrounding businesses and clubs, including even a synagogue. What happened is they have 39 keys. Those who participated in the ownership structure, they get access to it, right? If you don't have participation in that, then you don't get a key. And that is one of the things that we'll be doing in the nation as well. People that want to participate in some of the ventures that we have and want to build, you will be getting keys. Once you are joining the nation and we process these things. We're voting on what we want to do with our capital, what we want to do as a nation, what we want to do as a community. This is more than social media, right? This is a social nation, right? Right now, people are lonely, they're disconnected, and they don't want to go into the future alone, especially with all this uncertainty. So this is the solution. How do we build outside the matrix? And what's the matrix? It's systems that the machine controls. So outside their control is our alternative systems that we build. And here's the kicker, you can build on your platform as well. If you are somebody that's a leader, somebody that's creator, create your own nation. Because in the future, as everybody is democratizing tools and access to these things, the only thing that really matters is community, right? And then from that community, there's distribution, right? And in that community, you need to have real connections. Connection. So you're focusing on your core base, not trying to find followers, because followers don't even matter, right? Because what are they following you for is what matters. You want supporters. You want people who are highly aligned with the same values and the same mission, the same vision that you are going for, right? So now you get to plant your digital flag, and that gets to become a physical flag. You get to have your core values. You get to have your mission statement, your thesis, your manifesto, Right? And then you get to find people who are aligned with what you believe, and you get to build with them. We have a whole entire map system that we're going to be building up. This mapping system is going to allow people, right, that are part of the nation to see who else is a part of their nation all across the planet. So we're planning on going, right, let's say to Iowa. And when I go to Iowa, I want to be able to just click on it. And when I click on it, I can see who's within that network. I can see what resources they have. You're going to see the High Level Conversation Network, which is all these people that we've impacted and affected, right? But there's way more tentacles than just that. On social media, all you're really getting is impressions. You're getting analytics about likes, right? But you're not getting impact. I want to know the impact that I'm having on the world, and I'm sure you would too if it was available. The High Level Nation is all about being able to track that metric of impact, connection, right, that circulation of that dollar. How big is your actual economy and your footprint? Because you're not an influencer, you're an economy, but nobody put it that way. So therefore, third parties are able to utilize your power because they didn't create tools for you to utilize it yourself, right? So what we're doing is creating those tools that everything exists in-house. We get to control our own world, we get to build our own world, you get to be a part of that world as well. So you get to join, you get your passport, you get your face there, right? And we're going to be upgrading and think about what type of passport you would design for your community. And even in the future, we're going to turn those into physical ones as well. Gives you access to events, gets you access to retreats, gives you access to the world. It's no secret society, it's an open society, you understand me? But it's closed to those who are not aligned with our goals. So make sure y'all tap in. Go to High Level Nation, comment High Level Nation below, right? And make sure that you put in the application for your visa inside the world. I'll see you on the other side. Peace. I don't think we need to create safe spaces for women. I think we need to create a safe world for women.

Fair. Okay.

And I say that because then it leaves the rest of the world dangerous for them. But I 100% agree with the whole entire intent of your statement. Yeah. Is the fact that we have to be more vigilant, right? And we have to be, if you will, you know, go to war with the world that is unsafe for women. Unsafe, because we get so much more when women feel safe, when they feel good, and when they feel like they can be at their higher selves and their divine selves. We as men are rewarded. Yes. Right? And so we need to snuff out and find any space, and we need to destroy the unsafe spaces so that we create a safe world where women don't have to be in one space or the other, and in between the distance and the destination, they feel unsafe. Safe. Yeah. So I think that that's an ultimate war that we must fight, because when we're talking about creating those spaces, we're also talking about children. Yeah, right. Like, for children and women, right? Like, you— and this is why we cannot have weak men, right? All right. Like, and I'm not just talking about weak physically, but that's necessary too. Get yourself in the gym, you understand me? Go train. We don't need— if you're a weak man, you can't be used. Yeah, right. Like there's a level, like if you're going to be in the army, you have to at least be able to do, you know, preacher, uh, or what's up with the God, this certain carrier, you hold the weight and you can walk, and then you can do a certain bench rep and you can do certain squats. Like there should— I'm gonna put out a regiment where each man should at least have a minimum level, bare minimum. Then you have the middle, then you have the elite, right? But as men, we should be physically prepared because that also increases our testosterone, our willfulness, our mental acuity. Right? And it makes us better men, number one. Then number two, we talking about our spiritual preparedness. This is going to be a long journey for all of us. And I think that if we, number one, can hold space to give men grace to grow versus judgment— you're not here yet, you're not there yet, you're a bad man, you're a good man, we need to expose you, I'm gonna expose you— yeah, it doesn't give nobody room to grow. Grow, right? We're all in these glass houses just throwing stones. Yeah. Right? Instead, you have to give room to grow of men so that they can tap into their spiritual side, so they can start doing that inner work. Yeah. But when a man starts speaking on those things, if he's judged immediately, I don't even have space to grow and work. I can't do it in public. I gotta do it in private, right? And then that's not enough communion with community that allows me to go through this in the first place. Where's the brotherhood? Yeah. Right? So when we start talking about this spiritual, it also has not to be performative. Be spiritual for yourself. Yeah. Align with yourself and the God self in your own silence, in your own darkness, in your own stillness, and be good when nobody is looking for nobody else. Don't try to be the guru for the world. Be the guru for yourself. Yes. Right? Be a good man for to be a good man. Yeah. Not for nobody else. Not because of women, not for the children, not for— if you be a good man for yourself, you will be a good man for everybody else. Then we start talking about doing financial good. What is the point of having money if you don't do good with it? Seek out good, right? Gain the money so you can be a financial warrior. I've talked about my great-grandfather. He didn't just get money to keep it for himself, right? He started a whole entire association so he can help fund ownership in this country so that we can participate and the ownership of assets, right? In this country, he didn't have to do that, but this is where his mind was. He's seen oppression, he's seen white supremacy in the systems, and he said, no, how can I exist in this system and not do something good? So be a man of financial goodness. We have zakat, where it's a practice of charity, right? And it's not to force nobody to do it. It's on your own will and volition. And it's not always money. If you a man, do good because, you know, your time is finances as well, right? But also don't be a broke man because broke men are broken, right? And you're broken because you don't know how your mind works. And when you know how your mind works, you start creating flow. And so capitalism, right, I don't think is evil. I think to be a capitalist is evil in nature of saying that I am a capitalist. Because that means that I ain't putting people before profit or profit before people, which means you devalue people. Right. And devaluation is the devil. Right. Right. And so just by definition, I think that to be a like strict capitalist only, and people make that their religion, makes you evil in a lot of ways. So from a mental, spiritual, and a physical plane, and we added financial, but that's the tris majestas. Yeah. You understand me? You have to master the three planes. Mm-hmm. Right? And you have to be willing to get rid of the old avatar. Yeah. Right? Of who you thought you were, to shed those things and become a superior man. Yeah. Right? Message to the Black Man is a good start for people to read. I even like Napoleon Hill, Outwitting the Devil by Napoleon Hill. Okay. I think is an amazing book to read. I'm not mad at stoicism, but not for the purpose of avoiding the emotions. Because obviously he wasn't a great father. He created an evil little emperor. So be careful of that man that did not deal with his child and his child was ignored as well, right? So where yes, he was running the kingdom, but he also created evil from his kingdom. So it's not good enough to rule good in your time. Make sure that your wealth, right, is also the byproduct of your legacy, all right? Which is creating goodness. And there's more books I'll send out there for all men to read. Book of Five Rings is good when it comes to strategy, right? Miyamoto Musashi, right? It's just a good book when it comes to thinking as a man. Um, we should be in great study right now. Be in great study and be in great counsel. Find men that are wise that you can look up to, that you can learn from. Build tribes, meditate, train together, talk about how we're going to create a safe world for women, right? We have to destroy so that we can build. But I like the fact that you brought that thought and I appreciate that thought, but it just made me think soon as I heard spaces, I always wonder what is this tension I have with it? And I don't know until I have enough time to think, but it's the spaces part. 'Cause I never wanted to be in a safe space. I want to be in a brave world. You understand me? And so when we create a brave world for men, 'cause men don't need safe spaces, they need brave spaces where you can say what you want because brave spaces require what? Courage.

Yeah. And courage is the gateway to love. Exactly.

And courage is where you make the shift. So I think it's a language thing, but it's also psychological where they done studies and showed that safe spaces don't work because right after that space, you're in some danger.

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fair. That's fair. Man, this has been good.

Is there a final message you would like to give to the world and to the audience today that is necessary during this time?

Man, we've talked about so much. I mean, the truth of it is, is that there's not a time beyond us that is more important than the one we're in right now. Now. This whole kingdom that we talk about, this whole second coming, this whole like chasing after Jesus, chasing after whatever you think you're chasing after, it lives inside of each and every one of you. And if you don't embrace this, the path that we're on is accelerating faster than we know because time doesn't exist anymore. Not the way that we think it it used to. We don't have this like long duration and it's going to collapse itself. And my fear is that so many of us will be lost in the process. My call is that those of you that listen, that share, that send this to people that you love and they can have the discipline to sit through 3 hours, okay, to sit through this and listen to the and get to this message, their life will open up, their hearts will open up, they will become fully embodied, and it will no longer be this chase for the external. It will be this remembrance from the internal. Mm. I see.

Every day feels heavier and heavier, and so I have to try to release as much as possible. You know, I wait for the day that we can get past a lot of the lower things that we are into, even race, if you will. You know, people talk about race being a human construct, and I don't know why human constructs get a bad rap in the first place. We are humans. I never understood that, like, it's a demeaning thing to say it's human-made. Okay, it's a good thing thing. Yeah, but I only say that because people then say, follow up, well, we're all one human race, but it's really we all want human species. Race does allow us to see the distinctive differences between people, not that there are 100%, but we look at things from a historical lens so that we can learn each other. And the more that we're actually learning each other for the right reasons, the more peace that we can create on this Most of the war and the problems that we have is based on our ignorance of each other. We don't understand each other's nature. We don't understand the complexities that exist, the history, the lineages, the inheritance, the heritage, the heritages, right? Once we can understand that, now we know how to move. It's similar to an artist that studies color. He studies color to know which ones mix, which ones doesn't, which colors to make. Right? Once you have that mastery, then that's for you have the ability to create something beautiful because you can harmonize those colors to create art. But I believe that we currently have a world that is blinded by our differences that does not allow us to see the beauty in each other, right? The way that we think, right? The places that we come from, the things that we create, our disagreements are even beautiful in a way. Because when I meet somebody who thinks different than me, I am not in opposition of them. I am grateful for them because they are giving me a perspective that I normally could not see. And perspective is part of the 360 view that God sees. Man sees only from his perspective. And if you're lucky enough to develop the experience in this world, you can travel into the eyes of others, to the mind of others, through books, through experience, right, through communication, through fellowship. And this allows you to become expansive. And life is this journey of expanding your eye and perspective so that you're not stuck seeing one side. And this world likes to keep us stuck on one side or the other because they can benefit in that way. But I believe that the ultimate rising up today is thinking about how do I harmonize and how do I understand more. Facts and information rule this world. We have been fed all this information so that our brains cannot have enough time to process. And that means it keeps us infinitely distracted because we know more things than have meaning for us. There's a lot of meaningless information. I know random things that I could never use. So it's like hoarding. We're just hoarding information. But knowledge is the conversion of information into practice, right? Then the time that is required to not even need to be knowledgeable, but to seep into experience, to connect into DNA, to connect into your ways, right? It starts to become wisdom. And wisdom happens through time. Things have to be able to sit and you have to reflect in order to develop wisdom. Wisdom. But if we're caught into reaction, then we never get into reflection. And every day on content, something happens— oh, this is my reaction, reaction, reaction, reaction. There's no thinking in reaction. There's no wisdom in reaction. It is impulse. It is beast-like. It is left brain. It is not godly. God requires reflection for us to be in his image, reflecting him. So we should take time and reflect more than do. And in that, you start to find yourself moving with wisdom. And wisdom does not war. Wisdom knows even when it does not know. It will still make the right move even if it doesn't have all the right information because you're reflecting. And then from that reflection and that wisdom, We get ultimately to a place when we get to this sphere of human intellect and consciousness and spiritual understanding, we will all have that understanding of the world. And once we have that understanding, ultimately that's when we can possibly dream of a utopia. You can possibly dream of a hereafter, this, this version of the world that we no longer in resistance to. This version of the world where we can let our guards down and we have a safe world. But it's gonna take some time to build. So I need all the builders, the architects, the strategists, the generals, the funders. I need us to activate during this time. This is our time. The one thing that human beings have in common that is greater than any other construct that has been created is time. We are in this time together. My great-grandfather died in 1962. I so wish I could shake that man's hand, but we were not in the same time. But because of him, you know, I inherited like 6.25% of his DNA, and that's probably— they said that he was a great thinker but who got things done. And I remember my uncle told me that before. He said, boy, you philosophical as hell, but you get things done, and that's important. There you go. Not be in the clouds so much that you don't touch the dirt. Because as we talk about this fire horse year, horses touch the ground and they move step by step, right? And that's important for us to understand. Where are we going? So we build Zion. My brother has programs that you can tap into as well to get to know yourself even more. And I would love for you all to sit down, develop, and learn the cognitive architecture of your mind. Unlearn the ways of the world because they have turned us to a nation of workers for labor, industrialized capitalism. And now we need to be a world of thinkers because a thinking man is a free man. High Level Conversations is all about freeing the people. I appreciate you and I'll see you on next time of High Level Conversations. Peace. 19 Keys and this is high-level conversation. Tap in with the God. It's 19 Keys. The execution of knowledge is power. We teach men how to be a God. From a boy to a man and ultimately back into the natural state of being, into a God.