77: The tools to stay resilient in the face of adversity, with Poonacha Machaiah

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Becoming Bulletproof podcast. And I am excited for this conversation today. And you know, I know a lot of you follow me and listen to me because of my story and the resilience in which you have admired in me. It is something that I think we see other people overcome and do some pretty crazy things in their life and we wonder how we can do that. And the bottom line to most things in life is how we handle adversity, how we get through the hard things. You've heard me say there's no glory, but wherever there's glory, there's a big story behind it. And a lot of that has to do with resilience. And the amazing global thought leader that I am bringing you today is a gem. We just spent the last 10 minutes kind of chit chatting and I could feel the energy. This is going to be a conversation that I think that many of you desire, that many of you really need to hear, especially with what you, the world.

Are facing today. I love like the, the main quote on the website that I'm looking at right now is our attitude and belief in the face of adversity gives us the power to make radical choices to thrive. And you know, you've heard the quote, life is only, you know, 10% what happens to you, but 90% on how you handle it. And Punacha Machaya is a global thought leader with a unique knowledge. Like in the 10 minutes that we have just spoken, I have a whole page of crazy awesome crap that this guy does. It is amazing. Like he brings this beautiful spirit of wellness, resilience, well being and accompanies it with some crazy great technology. And we were talking about connection and the world. You know, what we're being faced with right now now it's chipping away at any possibility of intimacy. And I love that he is on a mission, even during these times, to create and come up with things that keep us more connected, more intimate with each other, and spreading love and kindness and goodness throughout the world. I think that it is so important. And if you have followed me for any length of time, you know my history with addiction and a lot of dark places, and I believe the opposite of any of those things is connection. And this man is on a mission with his whole life to bring that to the world in whatever form that is accessible at any time. I mean, we're kind of still all on lockdown, and he is creating, as we speak, things that bring us together. And I think that is what greatness is made of. So, panacha Machaya, I am so excited that you're here today. Welcome.

Thank you. Tracy, it is indeed an honor. And thank you for this very kind, very kind introduction, but I really am very grateful to you. I really believe that, you know, we are super connected, but very lonely during this time. Loneliness is an epidemic.

Yeah, I really want to target that because I think in a world where we appear very connected, I mean, we can be on 10 different apps in two seconds, like on our phone, and have this appearance that we've got it all together and have 8 million friends. But I know for myself at. Even with all of that, I have been the loneliest I've ever been at times. So why do you think that we're facing that right now more than ever?

I think the two things, right, I think, first I want to tell you is that loneliness is an epidemic. The world doesn't need tinder today. It needs tender. It needs tenderness. Right. And I think tenderness is an attribute that we need to cultivate. Just, let's go back 10,000 years ago. You know, we were on the Savannah or the, you know, or the. In the Siberia, and we were all hunting together, gathering together, living together, sleeping together. And when you went to sleep, somebody washed the fire. They made sure the saber toothed tiger didn't attack you. Right. So if you slept in peace. And now. And what happened? Let's say that. Let's say I was there as part of the tribe. I got separated, and then I could only be alone for a few. Maybe a few days, a few hours, because if I was alone, I did not survive. I survived in a pack. So what happens is that when you get separated from your pack, your body goes into a state of what you call a sympathetic overdrive or stress. Response. And when you go to sleep, you actually don't sleep. You have this thing called microarousal. You wake up, right, because you were designed to watch out for that tiger to go and attack you. And then he went back to the tribe, then he slept again. What happens today is that the same very primitive wiring is still in us, right? We are designed to be in a village. It takes a village to bring up a child. Where is the village? That is the community. So when we sleep now science has proven that when you sleep alone, you actually have disturbed sleep. You might sleep for eight hours, your Fitbit says eight hours, but you are actually having micro awakening. So we are designed to be together, you know, designed to be separated. And today what's happening with physical distancing? Imagine our children are growing up on zoom calls online. They should be in summer camps, fighting, bumping, playing, and then really having this visceral experience of, you know, hugging, playing and touching. And I think that's now been disrupted and that's really creating. We've already seen this and let's say in this one hour conversation, 60 people would be dead because that's every 40 seconds we lose somebody to suicide globally. So we are in an all time. The COVID is a pandemic. But the bigger pandemic is mental health. We don't talk about is still a stigma. It's better in the U.S. in India, we don't even talk about it. In some parts of the world, if you declare that you have mental health, you don't get a job, right? So there is this, you know, growing rate and you know, we talk about it also affects everybody leading cause of a death among young adults. You know, that's, I think also every day 22 veterans commit suicide. So, you know, think about that. So I think we have this crisis and we have to do something about it.

So I agree with you. I am somebody that grew up and I know you can speak to this because I know a lot of the people that listen to, especially people that are our age, you know, we're Both right at 50.

No, no, different younger.

Oh, not really, no, no, no, no. But a lot of us grew up. You know, you grew up culturally that way where we didn't talk about it.

But like grown men don't cry.

Exactly. And I grew up in an environment that you just what happens here stays here and you handle it and do it alone. And so I grew up, you know, having to fend for myself. And so the thought of a pack actually I felt made me More vulnerable. As I've worked really hard, I realized that it is in the pack. And when I was in recovery, in my early days of recovery, they said, stay in the center of the pack. Stay in the center of the pack. But with what we're faced with today, for those that are listening, I think more than ever, people are realizing that we have succumbed to technology and then this happened, and now we're forced into technology. So being faced with what we're faced with today, knowing what we know today, if and when this should lift, at some point, I don't think we'll ever be the same. What can you advise people do to stay connected or in the pack? Even through zoom? And all the things, especially parents with younger kids, like we were talking, I can't even imagine.

Right? Yeah. I mean, so I'm gonna break it down into two things. So one is, when I started looking at this whole area, I said, I want to understand, why are our children committing suicide? Why is that? And I realized this whole thing about resilience, I really. I felt that's something we don't talk about. So I wanted to kind of maybe share. That's one thing we can do. We can make our children, the generation, not even children, all of us, be more resilient. And resilient basically means that adversity is neutral. Right. If you're rich, you're poor, doesn't matter. The pandemic has taught us that adversity is going to hit you, but when it hits you, what are you going to do? And I call it the abc. What is your attitude? I guess you're going to be positive. Are you going to be negative? Is the glass half empty or half full? Right. B Is what is your belief? Do you believe that, you know, in impermanence? Do you believe that even whatever you're going through today might be the deepest, darkest winter of your life, but do you believe there's still going to be the spring and summer? Right. Do you believe in that? And I think we have to kind of go back and look at our belief system. And today what's happened is that we don't believe in anything. Right? We don't believe in God. We don't believe in a country. We don't believe in nation states. We don't believe in leadership. So there's a trust breakdown. We need to believe. And that's what happens when we don't. When your friends let you down, then all hell breaks loose. So we have to learn to trust. And I think we'll talk about trust in the second topic. But then the last thing is that choice. ABC is the choice. What choice are you going to make? Is the choice you're going to make next is going to help you or hurt you? Is it going to help others or hurt others? Everybody has a choice. What choice are you going to make? So I think we got to give people this tool to really talk about resilience and give them this ABC kind of this mindset. The second thing I talk about is that personal transformation, societal well being.

You cannot do the other way around. So one of the things I would say is that let's look at some of the six pillars of well being is nourish, right? Eat well. There's a. Basically, now there's research which shows that your 23,000 human genes, your 2 million microbial genes, which is in the gut, the gut and the brain are connected by the 10th cranial nerve, which is the vagus nerve. You put junk in your gut, it affects your brain, affects your sleep, all the hormonal cycles. The second thing is move, exercise, move. There's a second pillar. Third one is healthy emotions. Fourth pillar, some kind of mind, body, practice, meditation. Fifth pillar is something Americans don't do really well, is sleep. People don't think sleeping is a waste of time. Sixth is connection with community and nature.

So if you incorporate these six pillars, you can then go into the world and be more resilient. Technology, to me, is neutral. The very fact that we have Zoom today, I can have a call with you, but the question is that that should not be the only way. I have a conversation.

Right, right.

Online and offline integration. And that's why I believe the whole concept of hyperlocal, like, you know, think local, act global, but, you know, think about your community. You know, that's where technology can help you.

I love it. Personal transformation, like, I see so many. I've seen this a lot, too. People want to make an impact in the world and do something, but they. They abandoned their own personal transformation to do that. I love that you said that it can't be reversed. So I also know that we live in a society. I grew up in a house that was like, do as I say, not as I do. And I know that that's even more strong today. I'm seeing a lot of that. And so we are having these children that are, you know, and it's a lot easier to throw them in front of technology than it is to, you know, show them another way. So while we are kind of like in close Quarters with each other. What are some things that people, parents, just even single people can do to start other than these? Like for somebody who's looking at this list of the six pillars and they're going, oh, crap, like I maybe do one of those and I half ass it, right? How can somebody start to really overhaul this so they can be that example in their home and in their communities and in the world?

Maybe we'll speak it even more simpler, right? Maybe we ask the four soul questions, right? Who am I?

What do I want?

What is my purpose and what am I grateful for? Right? Who am I is a very interesting question. I'm 50 years old, Indian male, grew up in India. That's a story. Who am I at the core of my being? What do I want? What do I really want? What is my purpose and what am I grateful for? And these are four soul questions we can always ask ourselves, irrespective, you know, Victor Frankl said, Victor Franklin Frankl said this. The last of human freedoms is the ability for us to choose. Love is always a choice, right? So if you always default that love is always a default option. My Hail Mary pass. Then when things really become tough, I can still choose that as my default path, right? And as a father of two boys and a husband married 22 years, one of the biggest things I learned to do is stop being right. Stop being right is a burden. Being right means somebody else is wrong. I realized I still don't know. So maybe I just need to explore.

One of the things that I say all the time. Because I grew up, like, trying to be right all the time. Because that's how you stayed safe, right? And I learned, you know, through wisdom and my own kind of crap that, like, my goal is just to be effective in this world. Like, I don't need to be right or anything like that.

And I know, like, with the stress that everybody's under, I mean, it's easy to say, ask these questions. It's easy to say nourish our bodies and, and I am 100% on board with that, regardless of what's happening, because it is, it is important. And sacrificing that doesn't help things get better. But I also know that people are under tremendous stress. People are losing jobs, they're having to homeschool while parenting and bring in income and try to save marriages at the same time. It's a lot of moving parts.

What would you say if people find themselves? Because I know a lot of people are in crisis right now in their own homes. And they're not talking about it.

Right, right, right.

What's something that they can do to turn the bus around today?

You know, so the first thing, right? So I think if you become sick when you laugh, everybody laughs with you. When you cry, you cry alone, right? The most important thing, you got to take care of yourself. Doesn't matter your physical well being. If you. If you don't live another day, it doesn't matter what. What happens, right? So first thing I would say, there's nothing you can do. If everything just. Just stop. Just stop. Literally stop. S is for stop. T is take a deep breath.

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Smile. Or observe. P. Proceed with awareness. You realize that time heals. You know, in my deepest, darkest moments of my life, I realized at some point that I had to submit. I didn't. I knew that I didn't know. You know, just think about if my life was like this. This was a napkin, right? This is like you're born, this the time you die. You don't know when you're gonna die. When you. And if you have control of one of them, you have control in life, right? But technically you don't have control of both. So why get attached to the story? So really believing in the sense that this moment is the only this present moment is a present, right? Whatever it is, I'm going to give it my hundred percent for this moment. Because the next moment is a gift if I'm going to get it. Great. And that's been learning, by the way, at 50, I can tell you that when I was over the last decade, it's been my own journey with Deepak. And really looking at. I always tell people, don't confuse yourself with your selfie.

Who you are, what you project. A philosopher. I would say one of very famous philosopher has been my kind of guiding light. When I read about him. He says comparison and conformity lead to conflict. A mind without conflict is a spiritual mind. So a lot of things we do in our life, you see, we're comparing or conforming. You know what? I just lost my job. So basically, which means that I might need to move out of my apartment. And how is I'll get into an apartment? But you know what? My friend has a beautiful home comparison. Now I have to conform to this creates a conflict. If I can really live the story of my story, you know, your personal story. Who am I? What do I need to do now to get through this? That is all we can do. We have no control or anything else. And this is a very difficult time for Me, it's for the toughest time I've been in my entire, in the world. You know, it took me seven, seven months to get my wife to come back from India because she had a US passport, right. To get them back. My parents, I can't even go visit them anymore, you know, so when my mom actually said, if something happens to me, son, don't be guilty, you know, because I know you might not be able to make it, I said, why? To reconcile with that truth. Right. You know, I have no control, do I? I don't really. Right. But this moment I have some choices I can make. And the choice I can make is that I can channel my, my energy, my gift, this gratitude into something of service. When you're in service. So I always tell people, when you're in the deepest, darkest moment, be of.

Service a hundred percent.

When you're on service, two things happen. One is somebody else needs you, improves your self esteem, gives you. Two, you are now responsible for somebody else. Right? And I go back and say, okay, so the best cure in the biggest, worst crisis is be of service. Right.

I 100% agree, 100%. Because at my rock bottom moments when I had pretty much burned every boat and bridge there was, that is exactly what I did and rebuilt from there. And it's hard to stay stuck in your yuck when you are really pouring love into other people.

Yeah, you complain. I complained. I had no shoes until I saw a man who had no feet. I always tell people, don't judge. I always say, you know, every sinner has a future and every saint has a past. Right. Let's not judge.

So you talked about like even your darkest moments, you know, because I know a lot of, I mean you're so healing just to listen to and wise beyond measure. And I know that there are some people that will be like, that's great for him and he's got all the right things to say, but has he actually had to practice this? And if so, what was one of the hardest times of your life where you kind of had to pull yourself up from the bootstraps and actually put this into practice like hardcore. And it was really hard to do.

Yeah, you know, my first, I was actually been married 22 years and my wife and me had a first time. December 26, 2000, my first son was born. And I think a month after that she went through severe postpartum depression and almost very suicidal and was contemplating that. And I was 29. I had no idea what that even meant. I was a You know, high flying executive. I thought she was overreacting, didn't really understand. And I remember making a call to my friend who was a physician and he says, punacha, quit your job if you really want to be married and have a family or you really think you want to, you know, quit your job today. I said, what do you mean quit your job? He said, it takes a village to bring up a child here in Washington dc. How badly do you want it? And I realized that that was one of those moments when I realized that, wow, you know, it really doesn't matter who I am, it doesn't matter what it is I am really not able to be for the person I'm really not. And that was one infliction point where I was like, wow, I had to. And I did, I did the right things, right, and thank God for that. I have two boys healthy. So that was one aspect of it. The second thing, which was my inflection point of it was that, you know, one of my startups had a very good friend of mine, and this is during my partying days, I used to party hard. You know, my Saturday Sundays were like big parties. And one of the Sundays I had pretty bad hangover. But every Sunday afternoon I would go sit down, have a Starbucks and plan for the next week. And that's typically my ritual, I plan for the week ahead. 2004 is when it happened. And one of my best friend who was my coo basically called me up that afternoon, said, punish, I'm going to drop my son Taekwondo, which was a ritual. He would drop his son at taekwondo and I would go have a Starbucks and plan the next week. I basically said, you know what, I got a massive headache. You know, I really can't get out today. I just want to lie down, sleep, relax, blah, blah, blah. Then I got a call at 6 o' clock in the evening from his wife saying that, you know, you need to go to the hospital, something's happened to him. And I basically called and he had a massive heart attack and collapsed with the wheel of his car. Never forgive myself. So, man, I could have been there. And I'm trained in this, I know this. I could have called for help, you know, like, how selfish could I have been? That became a turning point of my life. I said, I need to channelize that guilt. That's when I realized that, what is the point? This guy went for his physical one three weeks ago, got a clean bill of health, and then three weeks later he drops dead of a heart attack. I Said the healthcare system is broke, you know, it doesn't matter. Going to Dr. Once a year, you need to have it 24 7, right? And then started my. These two inflection points, started my journey, right? And then I had startups, which are very successful startups, which failed, you know, And I think that's when. That's what I learned about life as a marathon, not a sprint. That's what I think I learned about resilience, that it doesn't matter. What happens is that resilience doesn't mean you always experience, you know, joy. You feel it, you feel the failure, you feel the hurt, you feel the fall, but you keep going. You just don't give up, right?

Yeah. I think for most of my life, and I know most people try to avoid feeling the hard things. I think that's why addiction is really high. You know, accompany that with a lack of connection, obviously. But something that you just said is so powerful, the guilt. And then guilt usually leads into the shame, which is like the deadliest silent killer I think there is out there. And it serves absolutely no good purpose. And it robs you of using those things as fuel to propel you. Because without those two things that you just. That were really gut wrenching for you and gut wrenching to hear, like, seriously, without those two things, you're not doing what you're doing today. And I think so many people get stuck in that guilt trap, that shame cycle. What is something that they can do? I know that you did it and you probably pivoted pretty well. And I've learned how to like, I can, I still get the shame hits from time to time, but it's like, okay, course correct real quick. And especially in the times that we're living in right now, I know that people are buried in it. Like, I should have invested better. I should have. They're shooting all over themselves, right? What's something they can do to start changing that and using it as fuel instead of just going down the tank?

You know, I always say these are three principles in life I believe in, right? Authenticity, integrity, higher purpose, right. If you can always say, if I can be as authentic as possible as I have the integrity and I can really have this higher purpose you can transcend, doesn't matter what it is, right? Because sometimes you think when I'm going through something, it was the worst thing which happened, right? And one of. One of the startups I did, I was kind of, you know, I was founded it, but then I lost it and I was kind of taken out of it, I was like, oh my God, this is the worst thing which ever happened to me. Ten years later, I'm like, thank God it happened. I got to meet Deepak Chandra. Right?

Right.

Like, I really got to do it. And then 10 years later, I'm like, wow, so what? At that time, I was the biggest tragedy of my life. And I was sobbing and I like, literally was like, how the hell can it happen? Was my biggest blessing. So if you can learn to live, the universe has infinite mystery, right? Infinite possibilities. There's a saying which is infinite flexibility is the key to immortality. And if you are always have this infinite flexibility on a situation, we will transcend it. We just. When we become rigid in the body mind, we break. Right? That's when you look at yoga, it's actually a practice of the body mind. It's flexible in the body mind. Right.

I had something come up just now as you were saying that, and I'm going to ask a selfish question because I think it's going to help everybody. So, you know, I think that.

What you just said, and I've experienced so many things and I think that's one of the gifts of the wisdom of 50 years old, to be honest with you, is you can see how connecting all those dots of some of the hardest points of our life. Like, thank God that happened. Thank God that happened. Like, I can see all of that and yet there's still certain parts of my life. And I'm sure you experience this too, because we're human, but we have those moments where we're on the edge of the cliff and we know, like, we can see clear as day, like how this ends up, but the windy road to get there, we have no freaking idea. And it's really scary. What is. What is something that you have done to just like take the leap? I mean, you've talked about a few different startups and businesses and I know many people that are listening right now are just like nervous about starting one. And like, you have a lot of faith in order to just dive in and do that. You had faith and just trust that infinite trust to walk away from your career when your wife was struggling with postpartum, even though you were like, I don't get it.

Right, right.

I want to know what you do to just jump and say, I'll figure this out.

You know.

I have a lot of faith in the infinite. You know, I feel, I believe that there is this spirit of faith, or I believe I've come here with the. I've been Bought on this planet for a mission. I was in an accident and I came here and here's panachos here, showed up on planet Earth. And now I have a trajectory. And now for me, every day is to discover who I am, right? Why am I here? What is my purpose? Every day for me is that deep mystery. And I find this exploration every day. I ask myself, so I'm here, I'm talking to Tracy o'. Malley. What is the universe going to unfold today? Amazing. Like, imagine our worlds collided, we converge. Probably took a million years in the making for this conversation. Probably never happen again. So what is that, right? So this infinite curiosity to find this path, the fork in the road to take the path not taken, to really be that explorer that has really given me that. It's been my beacon, right? When I first left the country, India, at 20 years old, to come to the United States, that was it. Like, wow, I want to go there. I want to see what's happening. So this. I had this kind of curious mind. I always. I like to say that I like. I like children because they have this infinite. You ask a 2 year old, what do you want to be? I want to be a pilot. I want to be a firefighter. I want to be a nurse. I want to be an explorer. I want to be this. And then life happens to them. Then I won't just get a job.

And I think societal conditioning. I don't want to get stuck to the story, and I want to create my story. And I think that gives me a lot of strength, personal strength, and. And that culture gets me to the dark moments of, you know, the other challenges in my life, like this constant exploration. It's a bit unsettling for people who are with me, I have to admit. I'm sure they're like, what is he gonna do next? He's like, what? But for me, it gives me infinite joy.

I love that. And I think that does scare people. And it's also what attracts them to you, probably. It's like, I think the world is missing more of that, that infinite curiosity. And so thank you for that answer. I needed to hear that. I do live very much like that, and I do get stuck in that. And do you ever, like, have a day where you're just like, ugh, this sucks?

Yeah, it does. I mean, what I do. I mean, absolutely. There are days, believe me, I get up and I said, oh, my God. You know, during the pandemic, I went through a tough time. I was just like, my superpower is Traveling. I love to travel, I love to see places, I love to explore, I love cultures, I love people. I mean, that gives me energy. And all of a sudden the one thing which I was really good at, which is not having jet lag, was I was busy. Stuck in.

You're stuck in California now, right?

Stuck in California. San Diego. Not a bad place.

Right.

But I know what I do. I always go back and when I do have those down moments, I have one self care routine.

And what I do is I basically do a couple of practices. I do. I'll kind of share some of them.

Sure.

One is breath work. Right. I always ground myself saying, and typically it's four to eight. I say four step inhalation or five step inhalation, twice that on the exhalation.

When you take a deep exhalation and elongate it, you actually tell the nervous system everything is okay. Right. And if you take short breaths, then you're basically saying everything is not okay. So when I just, I just pause, then the second thing I tell is that I'm not that important, that life will go on without me. Right. I don't want to be self important, my ego to get caught up in the drama. Right. And that's something the pandemic has taught me is that doesn't matter, by the way. You don't need half the things. Literally. Like, you know the yacht you have, you can't use it. Yeah. Like, you know, can't call your friends. So probably useless. So you don't need a dream to have that one. The second thing, and then I kind of use these kind of routines to kind of just connect with myself, ground myself. Then I also have, I always, my dad always told me, if it's three o' clock in the morning and you have to make five phone calls, who would they be? And they would show up at your doorstep without asking you why you called, what happened. So can you nurture those relationships and recommit to it? Right. And that's really important. So I go back and say, I have these people in my network. I say, hey, going through a little bit of a tough time. I'm having this challenge. What are your thoughts? You know, when you go to, when you train for the Olympics, you probably have 10 coaches. In the Olympics of life, who are your coaches? Right. You talk to people like Tim Story and all of that. Who are those people? When you're there in those moments you're having those down days, you can just send a message and say, hey, what's up? You know, and they kind of get you. So it's kind of surrounding yourself with that virtual, you know, obviously now it's virtual, but at least having in contact with them. So kind of having my own self, my own, I would say, self care routine and then connecting with some of the people who really mean the most to me.

Well, that'll get you out of your head really quickly, won't it? Like, those are beautiful. Those are beautiful. So I know that we were talking about stress and inflammation and when we aren't in that self care and our own personal transformation has taken a backseat and we're just like spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning, and the body is starting to break down.

I know that this is great, but I also know that a lot of the things that you are doing today is helping bring us back to center to reduce inflammation in our body, to get back to what we are here for. Like before life got ahold of us and kicked the shit out of us. Right. One of the things that you have created is an app and I also know that you have a supplement line too that helps with inflammation too. And I think that what we put in the body is important and I also think that what we're putting in our minds and our souls is really important. And you, this is what I love about you, is you're bringing all of it together with technology and what we're doing in the world today. I mean, you've really been innovative to be able to do this. So what is the app and what is the supplement? Because I think it's going to help so many people, right?

So when I started looking at this, I said, you're absolutely right. So if you reduce chronic low grade inflammation in the body, 95% of the diseases go away. Right? So inflammation is inflammation in the body mind. So I said, how do you reduce inflammation in the body? And I basically looked at kind of creating a product line called Inflammation Hacker and I kind of took some of the supplements which have been kind of known like Boswellia, Curcumin, Nehrundi, which are very traditionally thousands of years have been known to reduce inflammation in the body. So I kind of put them into inflammation. So anybody just takes these supplements at least reduces chronic inflammation in the body. And curcumin like you know, has been kind of proven to reduce inflammation. So all these supplements and the way it's been stacked, so I kind of looked at this reducing inflammation in the physical body. The second thing is that people say, you know what, I have brain fog. You know, I'm just Kind of having that kind of day, I just can't. And typically I said what do I do? So I can look at nootropics. So that's when I kind of look at this product that create formulated called the Brain Upgrade, which once again takes three of the active ingredients. One of them is Rhodelia, which is used as a tea, you know, in the, in the arctics in the morning to kind of give you a brain brain boost. So those are the supplements. How can we help people? And that's on my Warrior Monk website where and all the details are there. We can reduce inflammation in the body so they can. So we talk about, me and Deepak talk about Deepak saying is that how do we create a joyful, energetic body, a loving, compassionate heart, a reflective and alert mind and lightness of being. That's really our goal, right? And if you can do that, we'll have well being in the world. So that's. Those are two supplements. Helping in the. And then the app. You know, I was sitting down in February and this whole thing was happening and I was like, man, this is a bad movie. Like really, this is happening right now. Like really? You know, then I was sitting, I was sitting on San Diego and I was looking at the. In my, in the condo where I live in and I saw the seniors not getting out of the house, right? They were really worried about this thing. And I said, that's not a way to live. You know, I need help. So I said, what if I can say I want to give, I have extra mass. I want to give it, I want to ask for help. Can somebody walk my dog today?

I want to go out and I don't want. Uber is not working. Can I borrow a car? Right? And more importantly, I want to share love, right? So that became the genesis of my app Gabble, Give, Ask, Borrow Love. And it only works in a 10 mile radius. So it doesn't matter what happens in Phoenix. When I turn it on, it just shows me what's happening in my 10 mile radius, right? So I can say somebody. I want to do these things and done. It only lasts for 48 hours, yet it's over. Think of it as a bulletin board of community activities. And I really want to recreate the community center, which was a big part of me when I first came to the U.S. i loved it. I love going to the community center. I love going to the ymca. I love those places. And they don't exist anymore, right? And so I said, can I create a virtual one? And this really became the concept of Gabble.

And I have it up on my phone right now. Like, I'm looking at the app and it says, wow, nobody needs help right now. But what I love about this is, like, you know, I think in the world we live in today, it's like dog eat dog. It's like, what's in it for me, right? The with him kind of mentality. And I think that what you're doing, creating a virtual community center is something that is so beautiful. And I, you know, even like what you said, being of service of others, even on my darkest of days, even when I had nothing really that I thought to give if I had food in my pantry or food in my fridge, giving always made me feel better. And I believe it takes away the brain fog, reduces inflammation, all of the things. So I love that. So you guys can go to thewarriormonk.com for all the information regarding the supplements, the app. What else do you want people to know about you and how? Because I know that you love to serve and help, and you are like, you know, who are you? Like, you are here for a reason.

It's beautiful. You're a beautiful human being. So what else can people learn from you?

You know, I think more than I would like to share is that I'm really passionate about a foundation I've started with Dr. Deepak Chopra and my good friend Gabriella Wright. It's called Never Alone. The website is Never Alone, Love. So I would love people to go there, and I want to make it a source for mental health. So anybody, I think in about a month from now, I will kind of create this chatbot where anybody, any given point of time needs help. Just have a conversation with somebody. They can text, chat, call. I really want to create this pen pal concept, right? Just want to have a conversation. There are seniors today living in senior assisted homes, and we just want to talk to people. You know, what can we do? Just talk to people, right? Pick up the phone. And I want to create this experience. So stay tuned on Neveralone. Love. It's really my dream. I said, what is the warrior monk? And I always imagine, this is what I tell my kids, that I'd imagine a world where no one should ever feel helpless or hopeless. And the warrior always helps the helpless, and the monk helps the hopeless. So that's a world I imagine and I want to see happen. So that's really why I'm here.

Wow, this is such a beautiful conversation, and I'm so grateful and honored that you came on you guys. Never alone. Love. Stay tuned there. I think that that mission is, gosh, more needed now than ever.

Thank you, Tracy. I'm so grateful to you for this opportunity.

Oh, my goodness. He also has a podcast. I was listening to it. He had an interview with Deepak that I was listening to when I was kind of some meditative time today. It's really good. It is called the Warrior Monk, right?

Warrior Monk Conversations.

Yes. It's amazing podcast. You can go there. You can go to the warriormonk.com to find out all about him. And thank you for everything that you do and for being so infinitely curious because what you bring to the world because of that is a gift. And your presence today and always is a present to me. So thank you for being here.

Thank you, Tracy. Thanks. We hope to connect with you soon. And next time I'm back in Phoenix, Scottsdale, we'll definitely catch up.

Yeah, be prepared. He's coming. You're coming to Phoenix next week. It's a hot one, so I'm looking forward to it. It ain't San Diego here, let me tell you. Thanks for being on. I really, really appreciate you.

Thank you so much.

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