Fit Soul Chapter 21 - A Slice Of Heaven
29 Jan 2026 · 16 min
A solo narrated excerpt (podcast) from Ben Greenfield’s book Fit Soul exploring theological and practical views of heaven. The speaker rejects cartoonish or static depictions of eternity and outlines three chief longings he expects heaven to amplify—creating, calm (rest), and connection (relationships)—while citing authors and Scripture and recommending further reading.
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Welcome to Chapter 21 of Fit Soul Book. This is Ben Greenfield and this is my weekly release of a new chapter from my book, Fit Soul, which you can also get for free@fitsoulbook.com that's fitsoulbook.com all the resources and references and additional listening and reading material for today's chapter. You can find it fitsoulbook.com chapter 21 that's fitsoulbook.com last chapter 2 one chapter 21 a slice of heaven in chapter 18 I told you that I really don't think God is a nice old man in soft white robes sitting on a cloud and playing a harp. Neither do I think that heaven itself will be an experience that's oft portrayed in pop culture, cartoons and literature, all of us adorned with halos and angel wings and perched on a fluffy cloud, kind of doing just about nothing except maybe strumming a giant gold harp as though we were all eternally stuck on some kind of ethereal desert island. Just google Gary Larson Heaven for a perfect cartoonish portrayal from far side of how most folks these days portray life in eternity. It's basically a lone, bored guy in Wings on a Cloud thinking I wish I'd brought a magazine. Neither, to use an analogy you psychonauts out there might relate with, do I believe that heaven will simply be one big, long, extended and eternal version of a giant blissful hit of dmt, which is how I've often heard plant medicine enthusiasts describe their notion of heaven to be. So basically, I doubt heaven is going to be an infinity version of how you feel when you're just lazing around doing absolutely nothing without a care in the world on a quiet Sunday afternoon. While I certainly acknowledge, as you'll hear later, that in heaven we will indeed experience blissful relaxation beyond our wildest imagination, I also believe we'll be in a state in which we're also inspired and enjoy to do other things like hiking, swimming, playing, creating, socializing, singing and laughing. I actually can't think of anyone, even the busiest and most stressed folks I know, who could just sit around and do nothing for any longer than about a month before beginning to go stir crazy, much less infinity. Author Mark Twain has an astute observation on this topic. Growing up, I loved his novels. I still think he's one of the most talented writers America has ever produced. But despite my love of Twain, he also portrays a similarly boring view of heaven. In the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Huck tells the tale of what the widow Ms. Watson, who was the Strict old obnoxious Christian sister of Huck's main guardian informed him about Heaven Goes like this. She went on and told me about the good place. She said all a body would have to do there was go around all day long with a harp and sing forever and Ever. So I didn't think much of it. I asked her if she reckoned Tom Sawyer would go there, and she said not by a considerable sight. I was glad about that because I wanted him and me to be together. Twain's Huck seemed pretty disappointed, and rightly so, with this pious Christian spinster's view of heaven. What he really desired was a place a boy would love, a place of adventure, meaning, magic, pleasure and friendship, as author Randy Elkhorn says in his book Heaven, which I highly recommend is an epic read. If Ms. Watson had told Huck what the Bible says about living in a resurrected body and being with people we love on a resurrected earth with gardens and rivers and mountains and untold adventures, now that would have gotten his attention. John Eldredge, another favorite author of mine, sums the problem with this boring view of heaven up quite nicely in his book the Journey of Desire. Here's what he has to say. Nearly every Christian I have spoken with has some idea. Eternity is an unending church service. We have settled on an image of the never ending sing along song in the sky. One great hymn after another forever and ever. Amen. And our heart sings forever and ever. That's it. That's the good news. And then we sigh and feel guilty that we're not more spiritual. We lose heart and we turn once more to the present to find what life we can. Well, I wholeheartedly agree with Randy and John. I just really don't see evidence in the Bible that heaven is going to be like sitting in a stale regimented church service that seems a bit like a Groundhog Day experience, but for a million billion infinity years. Instead, there are a multitude of epic, thrilling and blissful experiences I look forward to in heaven. Like a brand new, beautiful and fully restored planet Earth the way God originally intended it to be, with all masterfully designed flora and fauna coexisting with us humans for all eternity in a garden city of the most exquisite proportions. Fish, birds and animals and all living and breathing creatures restored to their perfect state and living in harmony with us. Heavenly feasts of of scrumptious food and mouth watering drinks beyond our wildest culinary imaginations. Massive libraries of the greatest books ever written, both new and old, with an eternity of time to read them all. The greatest collection of instruments the world has ever known, and the ability to be able to play them all while singing songs of deep loving worship to my Creator forever and ever. The list goes on and on and on, ad infinitum. Just read the book Heaven if you want a full biblically based insider view of all the glorious experiences we'll likely enjoy in heaven. But if you were to put me on the spot today and make me list the top three things I'm most eagerly anticipating in Heaven, and you were to already account for the fact that being able to worship God for the rest of all time was already kind of a given, I'll tell you the three things, each of which I've chosen because I feel as though I'm already getting a tiny glimpse here on Earth of how glorious the heavenly version of these three things will be. So, based on the tiny slice of heavenly cake I've tasted in my own mortal life on a broken Earth thus far, here are the three heavenly morsels I'm licking my lips over three slices of Heaven. Number one Creating Think about this. You and I were made in the image of God, and God is the great Creator. Human beings, therefore dissimilar from all other animals, possess the unique ability to be able to creatively create. That is, unless you swallow the notorious argument that beavers create masterful dams, or a trained elephant with a paintbrush can make a tree shape on a canvas, or that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will create any given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare. Just use a search engine to look up the Infinite Monkey Theorem. If you're scratching your head about that last one. Well, here during our finite broken lives on Earth, we managed to create giant silver tubes that float gracefully through the sky, carrying Hundreds of humans 40,000ft above Earth's surface. Massive skyscrapers stretching into the clouds, with luscious gardens adorned on their rooftops, and tiny slick boxes we carry in our pockets that carry more information a fingertips touch away than all the world's grandest, ancient and modern libraries combined. Just imagine being able to similarly consciously create in heaven, but in a much more expansive and profound way. What masterpieces could you form if you had millions or billions of years on your hand? That doesn't seem silly to me. God created the human constitution with this driven desire to create, experiment, design, manufacture, fashion, fabricate and formulate. This isn't some modern, evolutionarily acquired trait. Archaeology constantly reveals that from cave paintings to Stonehenge to the pyramids humankind has created from our very beginnings the way God made us. There's no reason to believe he won't continue to take joy and pleasure in our creation when we are in eternal union with him in heaven, which the Bible clearly tells us is actually a new heaven and a new Earth. Being able to work on a watercolor art masterpiece for a thousand years, play a guitar until I have the skills of the greatest guitarist our current world has ever known, or design a new spacecraft that can carry me to the moon and beyond gets me pretty excited. Who knows? My passion for creating here on the old Earth is just a tiny slice of the creative cake I'll be blessed to consume on the new Earth. Possessing an infinite and unchanged power of creation is a pretty exciting and stimulating thought, isn't it? As a quick aside, I encourage you to never underestimate your built in core desire to create. If you aren't engaged in some type of creative work or hobby now, then I implore you to begin. It feeds the deep rooted desires of your soul. And what is the opposite of creation? It's consumption. Something deep down inside us humans would actually rather learn to craft the perfect piece of sushi instead of binge watching cooking shows on Netflix, throw a flawless football spiral rather than burning our eyeballs out on a screen for three hours during a Sunday afternoon NFL game, or learn to tell a funny, entertaining joke or story rather than parking ourselves in front of a YouTube stand up comedy channel. Yet our inherent laziness or resistance to the call of creation can often drive us to, say, stuck in consumption mode. Take America for example. Once a land of innovation, creativity, and new designs and inventions, we are now severely outpaced by countries like China in terms of our actual creation and production because we've become largely a consumeristic culture and constant consumption is now considered normal and acceptable. But I guarantee you'll find yourself far more happy and fulfilled if you create more than you consume every day. The world would be better for it. It's actually a rule of mine. I try to create more than I consume every day. Number two is calm. In six days God created the universe in this great display of the most meaningful work ever accomplished. Then he rested on the seventh day. Throughout the Bible, God shows how much he values rest and relaxation. Like in Hebrews 4:11 where it says, make every effort to enter that rest. Or Matthew 11:28 Come to me all you who are weary, and I will give you rest. Setting aside days and weeks of rest, and even resting the entire earth itself every seventh year like in Leviticus where it says but in the seventh year of the land is to have a year of Sabbath rest. A sab to the Lord. Don't sow your fields or prune your vineyards, don't reap what grows of itself or harvest the grapes of your untended vines. The land is to have a year of rest. See, God knows a little bit about soil versus overused dirt. Well, that calm feeling that washes over you when you finally lay your head on a pillow after a full day of work, that glass of wine you enjoy on the porch while watching the sunset melt away the stress of the day. Or perhaps most meaningfully, the entire day of blissful relaxation, celebration and fellowship we all have the privilege to enjoy on a Sabbath day are all just tiny taste of the eternal, constant and continual calm we will experience in heaven. In heaven, despite our natural desire to creatively create, there'll actually be no need to work. At least not in the way we think of it here on earth, certainly as sinless humans probably did in the Garden of Eden. And heaven will very likely be gardeners be caring for animals, be hiking epic mountain ranges and be enjoying the new heaven and new earth in all its glory. But in a manner more like we do here on a relaxed Sunday afternoon. You know, wandering out to the backyard garden to pluck a few fresh ripe tomatoes or bring our happy dog out for a walk or taking the family on a long scenic hike. So will we work in heaven? Well, it's possible. Work began before sin shown by the primary intense work of God in creating for six consecutive days. But our work will be different. As Randy Alcorn says again in heaven. What kind of work will you do in heaven? Maybe you'll build a cabinet with Joseph of Nazareth or Jesus. Maybe you'll tend sheep with David, discuss medicine with Luke, sew with Dorcas, make clothes with Lydia, design a new tent with Paul or Priscilla, write a song with Isaac Watts, ride horses with John Wesley, or sing with Keith Green. We know that when people here on earth retire, they often die much sooner. As image bearers of God the Creator, meaningful work is woven into our DNA, it seems. But our work in heaven will be purely joyful and fulfilling as we engage in fully self actualized work and the pleasurable pursuit of creating. Just imagine the blissful calm of being able to lay back, interlace your hands behind your head, stare up at the sky and realize there's no actual pressure to do anything besides sing and worship and bask in God's glory while reflecting it back to him for the rest of all time. No phone calls, emails, bills, traffic, rushing, no stress. You get to experience that 1/7 of the time during your lives here on Earth. On every Sunday of the week, ideally. But you'll get 7/7 of that same calm, but with many, many upgrades upon your arrival into heaven. How peaceful that will be. And number three is connection. Many folks believe we won't desire or engage in any relationships in heaven aside from our relationship with God. For example, theologians Augustine and Aquinas both imagine that in heaven we will focus exclusively on God, and that any other relationships or friendships between human beings will be absent or insignificant. But if here on the old Earth, meaningful human connections, beginning with the companionship of Adam and Eve, were assessed by God to take us from not good to very good, why would we expect him to suddenly change his mind in heaven and on the new earth? After all, God designed us to need and depend upon our fellow humans and image bearers of him, creating in us a desire to depend not on our relationship with him for our ultimate happiness and joy, but also our relationship with others. God is a father, and fathers naturally delight in their children's close relationships. God takes pleasure in our families, friendships and relationships, and there's no reason to believe he won't continue to do so in heaven. Even near the end of his life. Augustine himself said, we have not lost our dear ones who have departed from this life, but have merely sent them ahead of us. So we also shall depart and shall come to that life where they will be more than ever dear, as they will be better known to us, and where we shall love them without fear of parting. In addition, priest, church historian and orator Venerable Bade wrote of heaven, a great multitude of dear ones is there expecting us, a vast and mighty crowd of parents, brothers, and children, secure now of their own safety, anxious yet for our salvation long that we may come to their right and embrace them to that joy which will be common to us and to them, to that pleasure expected by our fellow servants as well as ourselves, so that full and perpetual felicity, if it be a pleasure to go to them, let us eagerly and covetously hasten on our way, that we may soon be with them, and soon be with Christ. English Puritan leader Richard Baxter wrote, I know that Christ is all in all, and that it is in the presence of God that makes heaven to be heaven. But yet it much sweetens the thoughts of that place to me that there are such a multitude of my most dear and precious friends in Christ. In his book A World of Love, Jonathan Edwards comments that every Christian friend that goes before us from this world is a ransom spirit waiting to welcome us in heaven. There'll be the infant of days that we have lost below through grace, to be found above there the Christian father and mother and wife and child and friend, with whom we shall renew the holy fellowship of the saints, which was interrupted by death here, but shall be commenced again in the upper sanctuary, and then shall never end. There we shall have company with the patriarchs and fathers and saints of the Old and New Testaments, and those of whom the world was not worthy, with whom on earth we were only conversant by faith and there above all we shall enjoy and dwell with God the Father, whom we have loved with all our hearts on earth, and with Jesus Christ our beloved Savior, who has always been to us the chief among ten thousands and altogether lovely and with the Holy Ghost our sanctifier and guide and comforter, and shall be filled with all the fullness of the Godhead forever. Of course, friendships will be transformed into the pinnacle of of perfect glory in heaven, with none of the annoying and divisive clicks, exclusiveness, arrogance, posturing, belittling, and jealousy we currently experience. Instead, we can anticipate lounging with all our friends, both old and new, at God's Great Feast for the rest of all time, laughing, growing, playing, and sharing stories for millions of years into eternity. I certainly relish the thought of heaven not being an isolated experience in which I'm all by myself on a lonely cloud floating through the sky, but rather some giant gathering of parties, camaraderie and joy, the likes of which has never before been seen. Of course, as I alluded to earlier, creation, calm and connection are just a smattering of the smorgasbord of the joy and pleasures we'll experience at the right hand of God forevermore. But my taste of the happiness derived from creative expression, a restful Sabbath day, and friendships and relationships here on the old Earth make me savor the ultimate richness of those same experiences I'll get to enjoy in heaven. So how about you? Will I share the joys of Heaven with you? Do you long for heaven in the same way that I do? Well, if you want to know more about how to be welcomed into the loving embrace of Jesus and share in the eternal bliss of Heaven, then go listen to or read chapter nine of this book, the Hero's Journey, and you'll discover exactly how. In the meantime, if you want references, links, resources, books, or additional listening material for this chapter, you can go to fitzsoulbook.com Chapter 21 that's fitsoulbook.com Chapter 21.
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