How To Reboot Your Nervous System & Train Broken Muscles How To Work The Right Way Again With Shawn Sherman.

Health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking, and much more. My name is Ben Greenfield. Welcome to the show.

All right, folks, I had a really smart cat fly out to my house.

And teach me a whole bunch of stuff about, like, repatterning my body neurologically.

It's hard to explain the intro.

So you just want to listen to this episode with Sean Sherman from Square One Systems. It's a great, great experience, and I.

Think you'll really dig it. I have a video, too, in the.

Show notes, which I'll give you shortly during the episode.

All right, so this is the beginning of what could be a quite interesting podcast. I had a guy named Adam McDowell, also known as @MovingMuscle on Instagram, reach out to me on Instagram, I think. Right, Adam. And he's like, oh, I know this guy, Sean Sherman. He's amazing. He's got this new bodywork technique that just, like, resets the way you use your muscle. You know, enough stuff to where I was kind of intrigued because I'm always kind of tuned into to new forms of bodywork therapy, or muscle activation, whatever you want to call it. But Adam introduced me to this guy named Shawn Sherman from a company called Square One Systems. And the show notes for today's episode is actually going to be@BenGreenfieldFitness.com Square one. Like, square the number one. BenGreenfieldFitness.com Square One. So I told Adam, I'm like, well, I mean, like, if I've got a free, you know, couple of days, why don't you guys fly up and we'll. We'll put a massage table out in the sunshine like we have right here, and. And we'll record some content and see if this is something that could be helpful to my audience, because I know a lot of you are weekend warriors, exercise enthusiasts, recreational athletes, pro athletes, people who just want to keep their bodies put together for health, span and lifespan for a period of time. So, anyways, so Sean and Adam showed up at my house yesterday afternoon here in Spok. We got my massage table out here in the sunshine. For those of you listening to the audio, we're actually recording a video version of this as well, which I'll make available where the show notes appear.

But we.

We had a fun time last night. Yeah, guys, we had a bunch. There's a chiropractic convention in town. So I got a bunch of friends in town like Peter Martone and Mindy Pals. We have people over. We had some Traeger grill, lobster and some salmon And a big feast. And I got my butt kicked at cornhole. And then we woke up this morning and we're about to dive in, and I'm about to turn things over to Sean to show us his magic. And you're square one systems, singular.

So square one systems.

And Is it like square one systems.com? exactly. Square one system or system singular? Yep, System system singular. And so if you guys have questions, comments, or feedback on what you see or what you hear, again, you can go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com square the number one. And I am a total virgin. I have no clue what I'm getting. I literally purposefully did not ask many questions and figured Sean would show up and just take things away. So, Sean, welcome to Spokompton.

All right.

Spokaza stand, I love. Used to be that way. Spokane's pretty cool now.

Yeah.

So, Sean, give folks just a. I don't know if you want to give them a touch of a background as you start to do what you do on me, or if it'd be helpful for you to spend a couple of minutes giving people a background first.

Yeah, maybe we'll get that out of the way. And then more natural, just start going to a flow. An actual session.

All right, so what is this?

So square one, There's. That's. That's the hardest question for me to answer, because if 100 people ask me that, I give you 100 different answers. But in a nutshell, what we're going to do is we're going to find out where you're having a flawed perception of ground forces.

Right?

That's where movement and where posture starts. So it's a subconscious perception of where the ground is and how you're oriented in relationship to the ground and past stress, trauma, injury, that'll alter your sensory motor signaling. So that'll make your perception skew, where you're perceiving that you're a little bit tipped at a right or left, forward or back or a little bit rotated. So these three different planes of movement and everybody's off on some level.

Right. And so obviously for ground reaction force athlete, like a football player or soccer or something like that, this would be incredibly crucial. It could be. What about for a guy like me, just like walking 10 to 20,000 steps a day, you know, now I'm kind of in just like, you know, enjoyment, fitness, just keep myself put together. Where's the link there?

Well, the. The link is that all human beings, we're all movers. So efficiency is always going to beat the tar out of inefficiency. So what we're going to do is we're going to clean out these inefficiencies so that every time your foot strikes the ground, it hits it more optimally. So you're talking less wear and tear in your joints. You get more out of your workout sessions or whatever you're doing. So for a fitness enthusiast to elite athletes, there's something for everybody.

So if you engage in chronic repetitive motion, it's essentially the patterning that you're trying to adjust so that someone is more biomechanically appropriate with like, you know, toe off gait, anything like that, with everything.

So what we're really doing is we're boiling down all human movement to two base patterns of getting upright and locomotion. So this getting upright is really. You call that posture. So there's two phases, getting up and going down. So it's complete full body supination, overcoming gravity.

Okay.

Or complete full body pronation where you're collapsing, absorbing shock into the ground.

Right.

So up and down is our static balance pattern or posture. And the dynamic balance or locomotion is what happens when the right foot strikes the ground. Ground reaction forces come up through the whole kinetic chain and three degrees, yeah, three planes of movement. Same thing with the left. So it's right versus left, up versus down. We're looking for where you're leaking.

Okay. Why on God's green earth should people trust you?

Like, what's your background? That's great. My background? If you go back really far. I have a four year degree from Penn State. I was an early adopter of a system years ago, 18, 20 years ago. Muscle activation techniques. Oh, yeah.

Yep. So is that Craig Bueller?

Craig Bueller's one of his students. Greg Roscoff is the guy who came up with that system.

Craig's advanced muscle integrative technique. Is that what he does?

Amit, I really haven't paid attention over the last exercise.

The only reason I ask is way back in the day, Tim Ferriss in his book Four Hour Body talked about Dr. Thumb, I think he called him, who would put his thumbs in different areas of the body, do muscle testing, release certain muscles, activate certain muscles. This guy's name was Dr. Craig Bueller. I wound up actually through a mutual acquaintance meeting Craig down in New York, Utah. And I've since been down to see him a few times. And he lays you on the table. He does some, some muscle testing even actually has like a digitized device where he can test the muscle and Then he kind of like activates some stuff. You get up, you walk, you get back on the table. So that's, you know, essentially my experience with this was with Dr. Bueller in salt Lake.

So that style of testing, I'm assuming that Dr. Bueller is still using. He's a chiropractor. I believe he has a background in clinical kinesiology. We're using the exact same style of muscle testing. So that's what I've borrowed from my years when I was doing mat.

Yep.

Everything else that I learned back then has pretty much been abandoned. So instead of looking at muscles as the source, as this piece of the puzzle that we're going to manipulate, we're actually looking at joint actions. Because my problem with trying to break down posture and movement at a muscular level is the way we're designed. There is no muscle that functions in isolation by itself. But a joint action, we can isolate those. So we're looking at how joint actions create patterns. Because if you look at a lot of definitions of a pat, there's no mention of muscles. It's really multiple joint actions working together to accomplish a task. So I'm gonna try to find out where your brain says, hey, I can't handle ground reaction forces in this joint action. When the brain perceives that it can't tolerate load, it has to work around it, and that's compensation. So we're looking at neural compensation.

Okay, gotcha. And then one last question before I guess we dive in and you start to show what it is you're doing, because I feel like this lends itself well to demonstration, which is why we're doing the video and everything too. You know, when people hear muscle testing, many folks, especially those of the scientific bent, will bristle because they associate it.

With, oh, you hold the ginger in one hand and you hold the digestive enzymes in the other hand, and then.

You hold out your arm and the person presses down on it. And, you know, you put on the magic balance bracelet at the county Expo. And so a lot of people think that's total woo. How is your style any different than something like that?

I think it's the exact same style, but it's how we're using that positive or negative response or that safety versus threatening response and interpreting it in regards to, again, to load and mechanics and the ground itself. But what I like to do on the front end of a demo is I'm going to find some flawed outcomes like a restriction of range of motion. So we have a secondary way to check that what we're doing is not bogus. So we're going to show hopefully some range of motion improvements.

Okay, cool. And this is going to be interesting because I really haven't told you anything at all about my body. Adjust your microphone here. We got Sean, just for listeners with is MacGyvered up.

We got it.

We got his receiver duct taped to him. We got Adam running. Running technical backups. So audience, be kind because we're literally just three muscle heads here trying to figure out how to use audio equipment. So anyways, well, this will be interesting for people to kind of see because it's something I'm intrigued about. And I haven't told you anything about my body at all.

I don't like that you haven't even asked what you're doing until right now.

I haven't asked you a single question.

It's more natural this way. Night.

I was joking with you about this, but we haven't talked about this stuff at all. So this is going to be interesting. You know nothing about me, correct. It's like a magic show where you go to. It's like, exactly. You know this person. Have you ever seen each other before in your life? No. Okay, so.

So the biggest thing I want to do or ask is like, you don't have to give me too many details, but if there's any recent trauma, I just got to be careful with because I always tell people I don't have MRI or X ray eyeballs. I don't want to damage anything or ear.

Well, like I was telling you, my wife jumped my bones this morning, and that was kind of traumatic. It woke me up super early. Aside from that, though, fatigue, traumatic trauma, possibly some. So ass fatigue. The main thing would be if I could name anything. A little bit of left lower limb issues.

Okay.

Primarily a little bit of left toe pain on, toe off.

Okay.

And then some left knee pain and more. Just.

If there's anything we do that irritates, just speak up. Be a big wimp on the table. I'd rather you over report something's ugly.

So just like when. When someone's getting work like this done talk anytime something feels funny or you're just like, oh, that's an interesting spot.

Yeah, exactly. I just don't want to, like, create further irritation in case you have some.

Undiagnosed left toe and left knee. I've been a little bit buggy, but that's about it. Other than that, I'm healthy as a horse.

Perfect. All right, man, so let's get you laying on your Back. We'll have your feet hanging off the edge.

Okay.

And slide you down here. And I don't do a whole lot of functional assessment before and after. It's actually probably one thing that maybe holds our system back. Well, my thing is I'd rather give people what they need. And all that's like kind of window dressing to me, so. But I do like to do a couple range of motion pieces to kind of get the client kind of. Okay, come along for the ride.

Okay.

But I don't want to waste, like, five, ten minutes doing all this pre assessment stuff. We do our thing, and they gotta do another 10 minutes at the end. So I'm just gonna check, like, a quick range of motion deal on you. Just so we have a starting point, a reference point.

Okay.

So just have it laying flat on your back.

It's nice and warm in the sun.

I don't know what you stepped in, but you stepped in the same thing as everybody else. There's this common thing where the right leg doesn't turn in.

My right leg doesn't turn in. Not.

Yeah, not as well as the left. I'll show you in a sec. But it's like, it's probably something like organs. You know, we're not really symmetrically, structurally or functionally. Yeah, I don't even care.

We got a big old liver on one side and deliver on the other side.

But you can feel the difference. You can feel that I'm actually pushing harder with the righty than the left. I feel that.

So my right leg won't go into internal rotation.

Adam, you want to get some longitudinal shot of that. And, like, literally, I'm kind of shoving him on this right side. I'm actually being kind of gentle on his left.

And for those of you listening, it will be really cool for you to check out the video too. If you want to kind of visualize this stuff, it'll all be@BenGreeFlipFitness.com square one. That's BangreatfieldFitness.com square the number one.

And then for your listening audience instead of the viewing audience, right now, your left leg. I'm creating a little passive internal rotation on your left leg. We probably got, I don't know, 80 degrees, 85 degrees nearly, you know, flush with the ground on the right side, I'm gonna say 30, 40 degrees, roughly.

Noticeably different as you're internally rotating.

A good 40 to 60 degrees differ. And a lot of times, if I have an audience of, like, bunch of strength coaches, I usually tap out right There and say, hey, guys, what should we do to fix it? And then I kind of let them give their answers.

Yeah.

And then we do those things, and very often nothing happens. Right, Right. Like, oh, what do you want me to hit with the lacrosse ball?

Or, like, stretch the internal rotators?

So if we can try some of that massage.

Adductors.

Yeah. Right. So we could, like. So if we're like, you can, like, you know, do a little massage on adductors, that might be something. They might say, hey, we gotta release it to allow that movement to occur. And I'm the world's worst massage therapist. I'm not going at all.

Oh, man. I thought I'd just be able to lay here and get a massage. Adam, you lied to me, bro. Told me I could just get a massage in the sunshine.

Right. And no change right there, Right?

Yep.

So then you want me to do this again here, Adam? Yeah. There we go. Perfect. So that's really no change.

Right.

But we could go through all kinds of stuff, and it doesn't mean everything else is garbage. It's not. That's not what we're trying to show. But just the common corrective approach a lot of times doesn't really do a whole lot.

Yeah.

Well, we're gonna leave this open for now.

Okay.

All right. I'm gonna do a muscle test. I know you've been tested by Bueller and probably a bunch of other people, but I'm just gonna re familiarize you with how I test.

Yeah. Because it's been a while since I've done muscle testing.

So I'm start with a test that just about everybody passes so that you get a sense of how abrupt I'm testing. And also, see, that's not a force output deal. So I'm not gonna have to wrestle with you. It's just kind of an abrupt deal. So what we're gonna do with this left leg, you're gonna maintain this position. I'm gonna try to push you into midline. You're just gonna stabilize and stop me from pushing inward there. That's about all I'm gonna do. Right. And you're good. I'll bring the left leg back in, right leg out to the side. You're gonna stop me from pushing here.

Beautiful.

So now you know that I'm not trying to wrestle you.

Right?

Right. It's like kind of abrupt.

Pretty. Pretty subtle muscles.

Exactly. So now I'm going to put you in a couple different positions.

I don't want rhabdomyolysis after this.

That Happens we were doing something wrong. But I'm gonna go after a couple test positions that are commonly some weak links. So with this left leg, I want you to externally rotate maximally. So two things that I want you to do is I want you to keep your brain thinking about turning outward. And also you're gonna be resisting as I push in, so you so turn out. And as you keep turning, you're gonna stop me here. And that's a nice grab as well. So bring this left leg back down to midline and then we'll go here. Two things keep turning out as I go to push in. And I'm gonna give you another shot.

Leg was like noticeably weaker.

Yep. I'll do it again. Ready? Right here. And I'm not really pushing hard, so I got that little. It's just a little bit sloppy. Okay, now I like to show people back to your question about how can we trust the test. I'm gonna show you that you're actually strong there. You just. There's probably a lag in the muscle spindle where it's got to generate some slack and just can't do it right away. But if I do the test where I go a little slower, a little less abrupt and I gradually ramp you up, you know, I'm gonna. I can actually like. You're actually strong. Right. So it's not about force production, it's about, hey, can you respond to load right now? So if what it's the ground, it's not like, hey, hold on. I'm gonna take 10 seconds to like.

My right leg's a little sluggish and being able to react to the force you're putting.

Perfect. And now what we're not going to do with this, we're not. I'm not thinking, hey, what's going on with this guy's right leg? I'm literally. This is in its own box. This is just my red light, green light. We're going to use this as a change detector. Okay. So we talked briefly earlier about right versus left looking at locomotion. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to mimic ground reaction forces at a joint action level on you. So I'm going to shove your right ankle into dorsiflexion and then we'll reference back to that muscle test and see what happens. Does it stay the same or does it change? So I just do a little dorsiflexion.

Flexion, which shows you listening in. That's the knee up towards the. Or the Toe up towards the shin.

And then we go back to our test position.

Okay.

And stop me here. And there's no change.

Okay.

Left ankle dorsiflexion. So toe to chest kind of deal. And then a little break. You take a break there, but show me what happens here. All right, so we got that grab.

Yeah.

Okay. Now again, if someone's watching, like, oh, he's pushing hard. He's not pushing hard. I mean, it's easy to kind of. All right, so then what's cool is if I. When I shoved your left foot back here, turn it out again. Let's pick up where we left off. Good. You're solid. It's interesting, right?

And what's right leg stronger when you shove my left foot into dorsiflexion.

Yep. And I'll go back to this first one. Right. Dorsiflexion.

Okay.

Turn it out and kind of lose a little bit of capacity there.

Yeah.

What's really cool is when I make you weak like that. We have that restriction. But when I shove you into the good spot, watch your leg turn in. Right. So like, we got. We just picked up 40 degrees of range of motion.

Right.

By encouraging this. So what I'm interpreting all this as right now is when your left foot strikes the ground during locomotion, that helps your nervous system get more organized. When I shove your right foot in the doors. Deflection in the real time right now, it's helping or actually promotes disorganization. We don't want that. Okay. So what we don't want to do is, hey, let's just practice landing here, there. Like, we don't want to be so generic about it. We want to be very specific. So we're going to try to find out where is this coming from. So the second piece that I borrowed from AK CK and the muscle testing, but also his therapy localization. AK is applied kinesiology. Okay. And CK is clinical kinesiology.

Okay.

AK is an offshoot of chiropractic. That was Dr. Beardahl. I believe he was like, out of Detroit back in the 60s. I want to say one of his students was. Is an acolyte of beard all.

Okay.

So Akck is kind of like. I would say it's like Chinese medicine applied to western world. But those are two tools that we have borrowed.

Kinesiology and clinical. Yeah, it'll come in later.

That guy's name. But yeah. So those are two tools we borrowed. But all the maps that we're going to mess with and show you is What I've learned just from experimenting with people.

Right.

So we're gonna find out, like, where's the signaling issue coming from? Someone just tap the knees, and we check the muscle test. Stop me if you can. So we're always going to use this as a reference. You're good. Check your ankles. That's all we're doing, is touch and go in the.

I've done muscle testing. One thing that happens is I always forget when people pick it up.

Yep.

So always, always remind me.

Oh, yeah, no worries.

Assume I have muscle testing amnesia.

And I've done enough testing. I can usually tell when a person's.

Just, like, snoozing on me when they forgot.

Yeah.

Resist. Yeah, perfect.

So then. So we touch the knees with therapy localization, there's no change. A nice, strong test. We just touch their ankles. There's no change there. So it's telling me to look elsewhere for the issue.

Okay.

And then go to your hips. I want you to rotate here for me. Okay, Excellent. Ben, do you want to touch your belly and your chest for me, please?

Touch my belly with both hands.

One hand on the belly, one hand on your chest. Touch them simultaneously.

Okay.

And then what I'm doing is I'm going to do a muscle test and see if that's housing the most recent reason you have to compensate. And it is. So we got to narrow down to either lumbar spine or T spine. So just release the hand off the chest. Just touch the. The belly.

Okay.

And right here. Solid response. How about only touch your rib cage?

Please only touch my rib cage. Back where I was before. Like up here.

Perfect. Then we go right here. Boom. So from all these joint action possibilities of what's causing you to compensate, we got to narrow down. When we find this right leg versus left leg, positive, negative, or organized, disorganized, that cut our options in half. So now there's a 99 joint actions. Touch your hips, your knees, your ankles. It's not there. We go to your T spine. There's only three options here. So we went from 212 plus options to.

That's interesting. When I go in for chiropractic, practical adjustments, because I go into my buddy Mike Valente at Valente Cairo, like, once a week, once every two weeks.

Yep.

He always has to adjust T11, T12.

There you go.

Other ones are usually stuck.

So here we'll do. Let's have you let go of the hand off the chest. I'm gonna bias this test so that your brain perceives that you're landing with your left foot striking the ground. So I'm gonna cock your left foot back. You don't have to help me or anything, but just give me a big chest, like a thoracic extension for like, one or two seconds.

Wait, what do you mean?

Aim your chest to the sky?

Aim my chest to the sky? Just like, inhale, not even a breath.

More of an ar to the upper back.

Okay, perfect.

Take a break.

Okay, March it.

That's it. And then go back and check our test. You're great. Now we're going to go T spine flexion. So just bring your head and shoulders off the ground for a split second. Take a break. That's what we're doing. We're mimicking ground forces. And find out where the brake is. Turn over here. Okay, so the most recent reason that Ben Greenfield has to compensate your brain is perceiving T spine flexion as. I'm not so sure about this. It's correct. So instead of, like, rubbing you with oils and popping this and that, all you're gonna do is we're gonna direct conscious intent and do T spine flexion. And it's fancy Thor. All we do is just do an isometric. Just hold your head and shoulders off the ground for three seconds.

Okay.

One, two, three.

Put my ab work down in for a second.

There we go. He's done. That's all he does. So remember the beginning. I shoved your left foot back. You're solid. I shoved your right foot back, and it was kind of causing a disorganization, and it improved my work. So I'm gonna go back here again. Okay. Externally, rotate. Stop me here. Now you're good. So now it's cool. This leg, it turns in no matter what I do to you.

You just figured out that that right leg grabbing your action force dysfunction is related to T spine mobility inflection. Yep.

So your internal rotation issue for you, not everybody was T spine.

Interesting.

So it's like we're all the same, but yet you get to customize it because you've. You got a different set of DNA, different circumstances, different life, different choices. Is you have your own unique story. So it just draws out your story. So I think with the stuff, what we're doing is it's like a reverse chronology.

And you're going to tell me what to do to fix my T spine issue.

You just fixed it, dude.

Really?

It's all we're changing because we're doing is changing perception. We're not trying to change the hardware. We're trying to change the software. Yeah. So if you give you a better program to run every time you take a stab every exercise you do, you're reinforcing software, not the hardware. That's what we're doing. So we're indirectly maybe affecting, you know, tissue, but we're directly affecting software, but specifically perception that you're having or subconscious percept, head on the ground.

Got it.

So all of us are working harder than we have to when we don't know it.

Okay, cool.

So right now I tell people, like, all right, I can be the patient person and stand here and twiddle my thumbs and wait for me to compensate, but that just takes way too long. And you and I are both busy guys, and we want to go through some stuff. So what I want to do is we're going to run some different patterns past your body. And what's breaking you down that you don't know?

Okay.

So the most common starting point I go with. I use with people when I just come up a little bit force on your ribs. And I want you to give me a mouth breath. So we do a little sympathetic breath.

Just breathing. Yep.

One, one inhale. Exh. And then I could say, hey, that's bad for your nervous system. That's good. Like, that's just me speaking stuff into existence. I'm gonna check your leg if I know what happened. So why. Why guess? If you can test externally, rotate and stop me here. Right. So your brain perceived that little activity as a threat. So we go back to the drawing board. Go back to square one.

You need to perceive that breath as a threat.

Yep. So that external load on your ribs with the mouth rest combo. Yep. So I just shoved your left ankle dorsiflexion. We got strong again.

Like, reset the strength of that right leg. Every time you put my left leg in the dorsiflexion, my right leg gets stronger. But in T spine flexion and also with that chest breath that got weaker, that was.

That was. That's rear view mirror, baby. That's already gone. We're already past that, which is awesome, because once I was telling people the brain doesn't want to go the long way around the bone, it does so because it thinks it has to. You already neutralized that specific threat. That's gone. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna draw deeper and deeper garbage now. So we already shoved that left ankle back.

All my garbage. Yep.

All your garbage. Everybody's got garbage. Externally rotate and stop me. So go with left step I hit right step. Watch what happens externally. Rotate. Okay, so we got back in that. Yep. What's really cool is. And this is kind of like the beginning this month, muscle testing. What's really cool is I need to check your internal rotation, because if it's. Do, you know, turn on, turn off, it's one thing. But check it out. Your leg turns in.

Right.

So this is your right leg turns.

Out in just as much of my left right now.

Right. So even though he got you back into a slightly weird status. Right. So that's not just a trick. Like, there's a lot of things out there with temporary electric nervous system, but we're actually making a true restoration process here.

So right now, for those of you listening in, we're taking a quick break so that Adam can duct tape Sean's receiver to his chest. Again, these are a bunch of Fitness dudes, MacGyvering of a podcast for y'. All. But basically where we're getting some extra duct tape. We're turning CH into it, just, like, maybe see what the weight is best here. Using half roll of duct tape on his chest. So we got. We got sidelined just a little bit, but I figured I'd open the kimono for those of you listening in, so you know what we're up to. All right, so. So you brought me an internal rotation. My right leg internally rotated just as much as my left. Right.

Even wasn't doing before. Right. Even when we have you in this kind of, like, you know, quote unquote weakened status, we go back here, turn it out. So, you know, there's give, but yet we still have that mobility.

Yep.

So I love to show people we got you more organized by a degree of one, because we've only cleared out one reason. You have to compensate.

Okay.

We're now playing around, monkeying around here with level two.

Okay.

Going a little deeper on it. So again, we got left foot going back. You're cool. Right foot not so cool. Our last issue we found on you was in your T spline, so go ahead and tap your T spline. I'm gonna see if the next issue.

Is tap my chest like this.

Yep. You touch.

Tap it just like that. Do I hold my hand there?

You can. Yep. And how about stop me with this right leg?

Okay.

All right, so issue number two is not in the T spine. How about touch your neck for me, please?

Touch my neck. The back or the front of it?

Front's great, big external rotation. All right, so went backwards through your history, the most recent issue Was in the T spine. Now we're finding there's something going on in the neck. We have four options here to check. So you can let go with a touch, but go ahead and turn your head to the right for me, please. Big external rotation. And stop. Stop me here. Perfect. So one for four. You're good. Guess. Number two is keep looking. Right. And pick your head off the ground for me and stop me here. All right. I had three guesses. I was wrong. I love to show people how bad of a guesser I am.

Right.

So this isn't science because you know what's going to happen. Like, no, I don't. Because every time I do something to you and you're strong. I was wrong. So I'm looking for the flaw.

Yep.

I haven't found it yet.

That makes sense.

Yep. And then turn right and smush your.

Turn my head to the right.

Yep. And then smush your right here into the ground for me. Like that? Yep. Like cervical extension. And stop here. There's your guy. So we found cervical extension.

You want to drive that. That end of the ground circuit. Extend. The right leg's weak again.

Yeah. Your brain's like, I don't like this. And the thing is, it doesn't like and feels threatened by. It has to work around. So it doesn't mean you don't get to walk again. It just means you have an altered version of walking. Right. So have your neck straight, and our intervention will be. You can go, Yep, neutral. And just lightly press your head to the ground. So we're going to engage those circles straight back through. Just feeling a little neural, you know, motor drive into the. The cervical extensors. And we'll have you take a break.

Okay.

Remember, again, this was solid left dorsiflexion. I'm gonna go back to our reference point, find out how we're doing when I shove you into the disorganized pattern. And now you're organized.

Okay.

Right. Two layers in, I'm gonna keep messing with you. I'm gonna touch your wrist. Yep. And then all I do is give me a mouth breath again. So that's an event. I have no idea that if your brain perceived as a threat or safe, we'll check your leg. So I don't want to speak anything into existence. We'll just. Dude, you're great. So now you. You graduated from a white belt to, like, a beige belt.

Right.

You can lay here and breathe through your mouth and. Yep. Piece of cake. Do a body weight squat.

Okay. Body weight squat.

Yep. All human beings, grandma. To pro athletes, we need to be able to breathe in our mouth and out of our toes.

Just straight, straight down. Just hold.

Hold it.

Or just.

Just kind of come right back up. Okay.

Get you land on your back. Okay.

I love showing people how these basic, seemingly simple patterns cause a problem for you. Right?

Right.

You're an active guy. You're doing squatting all the time. So we can try to make movement outcomes better through practice, rehearsal motor learning. We also have this motor control thing. It's like the software that runs the whole system. So what we're trying to do, we're gonna try to just tighten that up. Because the answer is, hey, let's do some more squats. Like you've squatted before. That's not gonna fix it. If that had already fixed it, that would not have screwed it through.

Yeah, you've already prepared in that manner.

So we go back here again and stop me. We're good. Now I'm gonna map it out again. Here's left step. Find out what happens. So this time we gotta fail there. And I go right step. Right. Got it. So now we're gonna chase after we call right step. So we're looking in right step for the deficiency, the neuromuscular deficiency. Go ahead, Touch your neck for me again, Ben.

Right.

Big external rotation. Stop me here. All right, so now we're issue three back in the neck. We're gonna do the opposite. Let me turn the left now because we have an opposite neck.

Neck to the left.

Yep. And then we stop me here. There's your next issue. So I want you to lightly keep turning your head through the invisible wall. So gentle contraction.

Okay?

Three, two. Take a break. Check our work, which is you go neutral. Neck. I'm going to shove you into the quote unquote, bad pattern. Or the most recent bad pattern, if that's such a thing. And you're good. So keep the show going. Have you squat again. My job isn't to make your squat better. My job is to make it where when you do these things, your brain's like, I got this. To take it in stride. So just increasing neural resilience. How about laying on your back? Okay. Big external rotation. Still a little bit of a puzzle that the brain hasn't solved efficiently. Left step. Solid. Right dorsiflexion. Right step. There's our fail. So we're back to a left step scenario. Gonna touch your neck for me.

Okay.

And stop me here. Beautiful. How about a chest tap or touch? Beautiful. Go ahead, touch Your chin for me, please. Okay, so now we're gonna go to your jaw. So what we're gonna do here is open wide with the jaw open wide.

Okay?

Yep. Like, one second. Looks good. Then we'll check your leg. Go ahead and clench your jaw for me. That blew us out. So I want to do a isometric jaw clench for about three seconds. Okay.

Ready?

Yep. One, two, three.

Jaw workout.

Yeah, I checked the bad pattern. He's good. Save your squat again. Okay, so we just keep exposing you to the pattern that's provoking until it's under. Under control for you.

Okay.

And what will happen as this clear is going to go more and more complicated for you. What's cool to me is, like, when I show clients, like, man, it's just so amazing to me how that is blowing you out. Yeah, healthy guy, you've done all this stuff, but there's something about that, that your brain's like, not so good. I mean, it's not surprising because I've never actually know if I've ever had anybody pass that the first time. Right, right. So two exposures, it messes up when you squat. It doesn't mess you up.

Yeah. Okay.

Like temporarily.

Got it.

But he did it the first two times. It kind of created little. Little chink in the armor. Third time, you're good to go. So let's. Let's keep climbing this ladder. We'll have you stand back up.

Okay.

Have you perform the same deal. But I want you to close your eyes.

We're going to rob you of closed eye squat. Yep. Okay, ready? Yep.

So they estimate 70 to 80% of being upright is visual. So now you got to rely upon somatosensation and vestibular inputs.

Okay, let's go.

Check you on the table.

Okay, Close eyes.

Yep. Close eye squat. See what happens externally. Rotate. There we go. See that feed? Left step. There's a fail feed. Right step. You're organized, so we're gonna try to find out what's going on with this Right step. There's something missing. Gotta touch your chin again, please.

Okay. Touch your chin.

Not fight here. Touch your neck for me. All right, so we're back to right step in the neck. Blew you out. Turn your head to the left.

Good.

Stop me here. Good. Keep looking left, but pick your head off the ground, please. And stop me here. So cervical flexion so you can go straight neck to neutral. So you come back to home base and just pick your head off the ground for two or three seconds and take a break. And then Our proof is to feed the opposite pattern. You're good. Blind squat kit. So just trigger and reorganize.

We call this a visually challenged squat show.

Visually challenge squat. There we go. Perfect.

Gotta stay PC in this.

Take external rotation.

You have to pull back.

Yes, Perfect.

Upset folks. Oops, I just did that.

Oh, so funny. One of my clients said, hey, don't say anything, like, too, like, controversial when you go there. How about we just be real people and whatever, man.

My. My shows, my podcast, me just shooting the with friends and learning from amazing people, and then a bunch of folks are flies on the wall with. I think the cool thing being people can go in and comment, leave questions, and generate discussion.

I love it.

Yeah. But no, I. I always. Of course, my podcast is just like, authentic shooting with some buddies.

I love it. I love it. Hey, so your. Your Helen Keller squat was cool.

Okay.

Right. So let's mess with you. Let's get you back up. Yeah. So this time we can about go to bottom of squat. You keep your eyes open, do a little eye convergence. So you're going to follow my fingertip.

Okay. While I'm at the bottom of the.

Squat, hold me like, three seconds. See my finger? I'm just gonna go in and out, get you over here in the table. Okay. So you create these challenges. So if this stuff doesn't throw the brain off, like, okay, cool. There's less reasons that it has to be inefficient.

Makes sense right here, dude.

Awesome. Have you stand back up so you get more resilience. Getting harder and harder to screw with you, dude. So let's go. How about stand on one foot?

Okay.

And then close your eyes, if that's easy. All right, that's good. Let's catch on your bagger. So it's really just a matter of setting up puzzles for your brain to solve.

Yeah. Isn't that.

That's what life is really. All right, man. So when I feed left step, your body's like, okay, I'm organized. When I go right step, your nervous system's like, hey, I'm disorganized. Go ahead and tap your neck for me. Or touch your neck. Okay, perfect. And then how about touch your chest?

Okay.

All right. So we're just pulling out your history. So, you know. So, like, you might be too young to remember. Simon. Remember that little game back in the 70s, Simons?

I wasn't even born in the 70s. Yeah.

So you're 80s. They're probably out of vogue by about 79, 80. Yeah, it would like. Oh, the blue light goes. So you hit the blue. That's blue. Red, blue, red, blue, red, green. It's like this whole sequence. Yeah, but your sequence, you know, this is really. This is for the old farts, like 48 and up that were listening. The most recent reason you had to compensate was T spine, and it was your neck. And then it was, I think, another neck, and I think it was jaw, the neck and back in the T spine. So just retracing your history. So. But about. About five or 10 layers down, I'm like, I don't know what we cleared, man. We're just clearing stuff. All right, so what we do is give me a big chest.

Big chest.

Yeah. What do you mean? Thoracic extension. Chest to the sky. And a break. Show me this. Perfect. Give me that crunch again. Head and shoulders off the ground. And a break. All right. Crunch and hold.

Crunch and hold.

Yep. Three, two, one. Take a break. Check our work. You're solid. Have you stand up. Single leg blind.

Same leg.

Same leg.

Okay. I like to do close eyes.

Yep. Whoa. It's crazy, right? Hard about. There's a vestibular challenge, man.

Visual challenge. Yeah.

On your back.

Muppet. Right leg. With my eyes closed.

Right here. Okay. Stop me if you can. Now, what's cool about that is you. You perform that little skill. A little one. Donkey. You lay on your table, you're fine. So all that tells us is that's just a skill that you haven't practiced. Doesn't mean you need to practice it.

I mean, right leg, eye close thing.

Yeah, but it's like, right now, it's not. It's not throwing the brain off, so I'm okay with it. So I'm gonna just take it to something else. Let's do different things for your audience. We can throw all kinds of stuff. We can mess with mental triggers. So, you know, our nervous system does not or cannot distinguish between different types of stress. We can't. Emotional, thermal, nutritional, chemical. It just knows, like. Yep. Either safe or threat. Okay, so as you're laying here, I'll just check your leg for a sec.

Okay.

Just make sure we're in a good place. I'm gonna cock your left foot back.

You're good.

Cock that foot back. Beautiful. I want you to think about if I just said fear. You don't need to verbalize what it is. If I just said fear. Whatever that is for you dwell on. Don't dwell on it, but just think on it for about two seconds.

Yeah. All right.

And then you turn on here. We robbed you of neurological resources. Yep. But then think about if I said, like, love focusing that for like, two seconds.

Okay.

Solid.

Holy cow. It's amazing, right?

So like, all the stuff that you monkey with and tinker with, it's kind.

Of interesting when you say fear the first thing, because sometimes I'll form, like, immediate statements. Like when you said fear, it was fear of losing control because I'm a control freak. And then when you said love, like, immediately my wife and my twin sons came, like, it's awesome. Like, pouring into the imagery in my head. Right.

And they think things like blue zones. People like, okay, yeah. They live in these places that are whatever.

Yeah.

Food.

Yeah.

So a big part of it is like, what, family and loved ones.

Yeah.

It's huge.

Yeah.

I mean, so that's just that little. Everybody's, you know, you're my next lab rat. Everybody's a lab rat. Just like you're. You're your own lab rat. You're always messing around with yourself. But these are things we've checked.

I like to think of myself as a yeast or a fruit fly more than a lab rat.

We have a little bit more modern.

Yeah.

Interpretation of the analogy.

So.

Right. So then what we'll do is, like, sometimes I'll use this with, like, baseball player. And we'll put them in mental situations where they fail your pitcher. It's three, two, count. The other team's tiny runs in third, and you deliver pitch, home run.

Okay.

So I don't want them to dwell and make that happen, to, like, try to create that happen. But I'm like, negative things are going to happen. I need to bring the nervous system so I can handle it when they break down because the game keeps going.

Got it.

You know, I mean, so I'm like, yeah, on your own, you can think of all the positive things you want. My job is to make it so when the bad and the negative creeps in physiology can fit before make sense. So how about think fear for one sec. I want to check clear fear or that specific fear as a trigger. Big external rotation. Stop me here. All right. And so now I'm gonna cock the foot back on the right side. Solid. Left side. Okay, now that's cool. So we talked earlier about up, down, right, left. I've only been checking locomotion on you. Right versus left. You thought of fear, made you fail. Right step organized. Left step, organized. The problem right now is not locomotion. It's in the squat, upright posture.

Right.

So we're going to check on that.

That's what that upright posture is what seems to be triggering the weakness in that left or right external right now, presently.

Yep, exactly. So I want you to clench your jaw. Okay.

Right here.

So there's a pronation. Solid. Open your jaw wide right here.

Fail.

So we're going to feed the strong. We're actually going to look for the strong. We'll throw the issue and pollination, and your axial skeleton can rise to your tail.

Okay?

So head's neutral. Eyeballs look down towards your toes.

Here.

Stop if you can. You got it. And tuck your chin into your throat. So capitis or head flexion? Beautiful. Head off the ground. Stop here. Good. Shoulder blades off the ground for a second. Go right back down. We'll check it in neutral. Good. How about abs? Tight. Back flat on the ground. Take a break. Boom. Lumbar flexion is in. Next little missing piece. I'm gonna just contract and create a little tension there for three, two, break. Prove our work. Give me that big open mouth. You got it? All right, man, back to the trigger of fear. Let's go with the same thought. You know, the control thing and then a break. All right, so look, let's play on that. Because your control freak think along with fear. But let's say it really got out of hand. Like, someone comes in like, no, I'm. Take that for me, Ben. I got that. And she's like, oh, you're gonna screw it up or whatever it is. So just really amp that up. Like, I don't know, your project you're on, and one of. One of the twins comes in and throws you off hard. Okay. All right.

Got it.

So right now, that. That thought of control, like, hey, that's. That's your personal thing you can work with. And what I love right now is when you. When that creeps in your nervous system.

All of a sudden, my right leg's strong.

Yeah, you're fine right now with that. So we can. All we can do is we can customize all the triggers for you, the individual. Right. So a lot of times in the first session with people, I'm trying to clear up breath and squatting and depends on the person. If someone comes in, they're 70 years old, and they've had 14 surgeries. That might keep you busy for an hour. Right? Healthy guy like you, we got to do that stuff quick so we can start getting more and more and more into the things you want to be able to do and need to be able to do. So how about different drills you do? Like you do all kinds of like self preservation things. So whether it's a Pilates pose or a yoga pose or there's certain little resets, like physical things you do. Let's check those, make sure that your brain is getting all the goodies outwards.

Okay.

So if you hug your knee into your chest or I don't know what you do, you know, but just. Okay, so things that you do on a daily basis. Let's play with some kind of a.

Stretch or something that I do on the regular.

Yeah, let's do that.

All right. Table on the table. Does it matter?

Doesn't matter. Me. Okay, so let's do.

Geez. I mean, like one thing that I'll do sometimes during the day is I'll like, like go like that and like that. Kind of touching my right elbow to my left knee.

Love it.

My left elbow to my right knee. Love it. I like take little breaks during my work day and do that just to kind of keep the left and right hemispheres of the brain connected.

I love it. And we'll go right here.

That's my theory at least.

Yeah, well, it's, it's, it's a good theory and big external rotation. But your brain right now says, oh, I'm not so sure about that. Now. The message isn't that, hey, better state not. That's bad for you. The message is like, hey, let's just keep your brain a little help so that it can get all the goodies out of it. Just challenge it a little bit. So I'm just going to cock your right foot back. We're going to map it out. Righty great. Lefty great. So we're going to go back to upright, you know, up and down kind of deal. So go ahead and clench your jaw right here. Open wide. So the next little organizational flaw is inflection again. So we'll have to go eyes down, chin tuck down, head off the ground.

Head off the ground just to maintain.

That posture for three, two, take a break. Open jaw. Hey, man. Stand up. Elbow to knee or. Yeah, elbow to knee. Okay.

Also stand up, do that same move.

So I'm going to clear this for you. And now what's cool too is whether this clears after one or five exposures. If I were to check you in two months, six months, this shouldn't trigger you.

Okay.

Which is really cool. That's what we've experimented with a lot of people. I want to see how long the effect is. It's really more a matter of just exposing you to everything. Check you along the way.

Okay.

And just make sure that it's clear. But usually these exposures, once it's in the clear, it stays that way for months. And sometimes. Can you do that same pattern again? Because sometimes we don't capture the moment. I'm going to have to do that elbow to knee thing again. Because the body and the brain will self regulate. And we found that if we don't get capture that moment with some muscle testing and some patterning, we lose that moment. Let's check it here. I don't want to skip something.

Break to do the duct tape.

Exactly. Big turn here. Well, now you're. You're rocking. Is there any other things like that you do? I'm. You're doing all kinds of stuff.

Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, check them all sorts of little moves. Check them all.

Number two. All. A bunch of them. Yeah. You got 150 of them.

All right, let's do. So another thing that. That I'll do sometimes during the day is like, I'll crank out a few push ups. Yep.

Perfect.

Okay.

Yep.

All right. Just do like a few push ups here.

Sure. Get two, three, whatever. And this next test, we'll test you upright. So we'll get off the table.

Okay.

You kind of stand up and face me.

Okay.

And what we're gonna do with this right arm. Any issues with the shoulder?

No.

Well, we'll go a little bit higher than 90 internally rotate. I'm gonna go right here. I'm gonna push down here. Okay. Now what's cool if I go here? I can go really hard. Shorter lever. One arm right here. Right turn right here. So we can map it right here. Eyes up. So you look up the sky. Nice. Eyes down right here. So up organizes down. Right. So what we want to do is organize up. So on a table, we're going down to the joint action level. So now we're going to go recent discovery. We don't even need to go to that level. It's nice to customize if you want to get some detail what's going on with the person. But we can just organize the pattern. Okay, so right now we want to work on up. So we're going to sync up nasal breath. So it'll be parasympathetic breath with vestibular influence. So aim the cervical extension and breathe through your nose. All right, man. Neutral.

Eyes down.

Remember how that was disorganizing? That's our proof right here. Boom. Yeah, this is the same thing. It's a streamlined version. So this is actually Going to be. We've been teaching this for. Since 2011. 2012. 2012. This is gonna be part of new courses here we have the streamline stuff.

So you're gonna teach like trainers and.

Well, we've been teaching this. So we have people out there who.

Use the system how to do this. Yeah.

But now we got a streamlined version because now instead of just learning muscle testing and. Or should say instead of having to learn the muscle testing in the system and all the joint actions, that's a. It's a lot for people to chomp on the first exposure. We're now just gonna teach them the muscle test, the system and this form right here, we don't need to go to joint action. We can just go to the cervical and kind of get the vestibular and the breathing.

Gotcha. If somebody doesn't have a background in personal training or biomechanics or something like that and they go and try to learn this stuff, are they still gonna be able to wrap the vert?

They are because we actually, we present it in a way that we're assuming they knew nothing.

Okay.

So we've actually had clients that are like housewives or history teachers. Nope, we'll teach them all that stuff. And then we also, as of last week, I've been hesitant to. I've been wanting to get like a self administered version and what's been holding me back is this muscle test. Because it's hard to test yourself. Yeah. But I'm experiment with that last 10 days.

Yeah. So we're going to need somebody on hand.

Exactly. And it's just not that nice if.

You do it yourself. Yeah.

Right. So we're actually going to progress this whole thing to that. So we went the long way around the barn or not it the long way. We went the all the details, all the side streets on all the detail. Now we're doing a little bit more. More general. And once this really clicks with you, then I'm going to teach you how to test yourself so you can kind of keep carrying on the work after we're out of here. Okay, so let's have you do a push up or 3 as the next exposure.

A push up or 3?

Yeah, A or 3.

Okay.

And then we'll just go back and check your arm.

Okay.

Turn them in.

Get.

Yeah. Awesome, dude.

Awesome.

What else do you do? Yeah. So all we're doing is like think about when you're doing your workout. So if it's one thing, if you're doing some kind of circuit with one after another. But if there's a little downtime. Dude. I want to show you how to check yourself in between sets. So you have that vibe plate up there. You probably put that in your circuit.

Yeah.

You might want to string some of this in. Like, how am I doing?

Right.

And then if, like, you did three exercises and you kind of lost it, you can then, like, kind of figure out which of the three or two of the three, and then instead say, I gotta avoid. That's a bad exercise for me. Like, I'm gonna get your nervous system. Yeah. So how about another drill? Another exercise? A lot.

A lot of times I'll do, like, this kind of stretch. Like, if my hip flexors are tight during the day and it kind of works my balance a little bit, I'll get down like this. Yeah. Kind of like a quad stretch, almost like a standing version, like, you know, Kelly starts couch stretch type of thing. So, yeah, I'll do something like that.

Perfect. Go ahead and face me. Let's check that right arm.

Okay.

Turn on, rotate. Eyes up.

Okay.

Good. Eyes down. So there's disorganized. We don't want to feed that. We want to feed the organizing pattern. So eyes up correlates with cervical extensions.

Yeah.

Neck back or head back. Nasal breath.

Okay.

Try to do just one big inhale, exhale through the nose. So that's the intervention. Right. So what's cool is you're going in through your nose and out through the mouth. This is great because it's another test. So we've actually been playing with the lately. We start off with two nasal breaths. That was working. We went to one, and we've been messing with is just the inhale. So it seems like the inhale has to go through the nose and not the exhale. So go eyes down. Got it. Do your quad RDL stretch again. Yep. Just want to make sure that it's clear. If it's not, we'll just kind of.

Hang out both sides like I did before. Yep.

Mimic same circumstances. So any experiment has, like, 8 billion variables we want to try to control as best we can. Okay, we'll do this guy and what I'm gonna do in the next one, the same thing, but just do the first side. Because a lot of times when we do this test, it's just gonna pick up the last thing you did.

Okay.

So let's just get the first one and check it just to be thorough and dot our eyes, cross our T's. Everybody's like, I got this, so just find something else. Lunge or you turn your head or you're doing kind of visual balance that way. Whatever.

Okay, Just give me. Let's try another one that I'll do a lot, like for breaks during the day is I'll try and do like some tai chi esque slapping up and down the body side to side like this.

Love it.

He's our breathe as you do it.

Like, love it. Check it.

Okay.

Love it. See what happens? That's what's fun for me is like I go into a situation, I'm kind of open minded because I'm not rooting for that to be good or bad for you or a threat or safety. I'm just here to read it.

Okay.

And I'm not gonna say, hey, Ben, stop doing that again. My job is that. Let's clear this. Your nervous system gets all the goodies out of that, not just some of the goodies. So how do we go? Eyes up. Beautiful. Eyes down. So we have organized and disorganized.

Right.

But remember on a table, shoving a foot back. We're going to check right and left while you're upright.

Okay.

So shoving your left foot back to check left step. Shoving the right to do that. This. But we can check it through the eyes. So I had still eyes left.

Eyes.

Eyes right.

So right now eyes right. A little weaker. Yeah.

So up and left. Organize down and right. Right. So we could drill the heck out of left up and up. Like. No, let's just get synced up with the. The neck or the vestibular system and. And then the nasal breath. So we've already shown you up. Pop his head back and nasal breath. But if we want to kind of reset eyes left. What we need to do is we need to do two things. So I want you to lean your left with your left shoulder. Nasal breath in and out. Turn your head to right and nasal breath. Because these are joint action responsibilities that occur during what we call lift up. Take a break. So we'll prove our works. Remember, down and right. We're so organize this. Check down. Vestibular.

Yeah, Visual.

And that's. That's breathing.

Yeah.

Breathing is expansion, supination.

Right.

You know, exhale.

Right.

Pronation.

Okay.

So if we get that synced up with breath and vestibular positions, life's pretty good.

Yeah.

So what was messy? You did your slap and your Tai chi. Let's never do that again.

Yeah. Which one? Like the, the twisting and slapping. Yep, yep.

All your most popular things you do all the time. Let's make sure the nervous System says, hey, baby. This is great. Check it. All right.

So fun.

Rocking, man. So what's cool with you is everything's only triggering one or two times?

Yeah.

Probably be a lot healthier than the average fast. It is, man. It's just getting a little help.

Ate my salmon this morning. My DHA fallen.

We could do. We could actually. We could check. I said before about subs.

You can check items of food like supplements, stuff like that.

Yeah. Not that we have to do it right now, but you can. You can check anything.

Yeah.

I like driving it towards movement because, like, I don't have people coming in. I'm like, I'm not a therapist.

Yeah. I could see a great deal of efficacy for this, especially for either a chronic repetitive motion athlete.

Yes.

Or. Or like, like you mentioned a baseball pitcher, tennis racket. Any other. Because then let's say it was tennis because I like to play tennis actually occasionally. And as much sight as I'd love to, but, you know. So you. You test somebody like swinging a forehand.

Exactly.

Yeah.

But even without a racket here, we could do stuff like. You know what happens. Antennas you're laying on one side. You can do that right here. I mean, watch the rocks from the bottom of your feet. We got tough feet. Just have you kind of just land on one foot. Just like decelerating. Boom. Check your arm.

Okay.

I don't want to assume anything. It looks easy, but I don't really know what you bring about it.

Okay.

Beautiful. How about land and decelerate on right.

Light fit.

Cool. We'll check it. An animal, most things in a first session, first exposure, it triggers. So you're rocking, man. Like only about two out of three things I'm throwing at your trigger again. Okay, so you're gonna do. You could do like. Like a ground stroke.

Okay. Try to like mirror a tennis stroke.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, then do another one. Go maybe 50 to 80. Like kind of a little harder. Yeah, do another one even harder. I'll check your arm just a little bit. We turned it up to 11. You can handle 10, but 11 is a little too much. So we'll eyes up. I just have this hand there to stabilize. Beautiful. Eyes down. Up, down. Let's go right, left. Check these guys out. And then I was right. So now right and up. Organizing. Here's our disorganizing. We're going to come back and check those after we organize either right or up. We're going to organize up. Go ahead. Back and nasal breath. If we get up, down, organized. Right, left Usually comes along for the party. Neutral neck. And we'll check down. I think his left was failed. So let's go left. We'll go head neutral.

Just.

Yeah, Eyes left.

Yep. Got it. Do a ground stroke, 50 to 80 effort. You know, light, medium to medium hard. Let's check it. Okay. How about a backhand?

Okay.

Two hand backhand.

Two hand?

Yep.

I'm a two hander, baby. And a one hand slicer.

Just check it. Okay. It's fun. We do say about slicing. We have a. We're good with golfers. Like, just bring your whole bag of clubs. Different shaft length, different weight. They have a unique response to every one of their. To every one of their clubs.

Yeah. Adam's making. Making cymbals out of sp.

We don't speak the sign language.

What are you saying?

Serve.

Try serve. Okay.

Oh, serve. Okay.

All right.

Ready? Charades. Got it. I thought you said surfing, right? That's surfing. Surfing, yeah. Different pattern, different response. We gotta go up, down, right, left. Your arm's doing okay with all the repetitive. Yeah, that's one of the drawbacks. I might switch it up.

I took my creatine this morning, bro.

Yeah, you're ready to roll now. We got tomorrow's sides to be swallowed. Left you not.

So rondo.

Left or right? Eyeballs, either way. Eyes right. Organized. Solid.

Solid.

We go up and down. So there was no option to correct here. We have to find out positive or negative here. So either up or down.

Eyes up only.

Yep. And eyes down just to make sure. So disorganized, organized. That's the only option. Head back and sub left. Check.

So simple, these corrective exercises.

Yeah. So easy. And what's cool is I like with some of this new stuff I've been playing with, is the application for everybody now.

Yeah.

If you don't even want to learn how to muscle test, something you do really simple throughout the day. Head back, nasal breath, head forward, nasal breath.

Okay.

Because now we're organizing upright.

Let me ask you a question, because I know if I'm wondering it, a lot of other people are going to be wondering it too. So let's say that you do the corrective exercise that involves, say, like tipping the head back, taking a deep breath in. So we're correcting cervical extension. Is there something going on from either a neurochemical or a nervous system standpoint that you suspect would be then causing that to fix the movement that I just finished performing? Just something as simple as, like, a cervical extension of the breath?

So are you asking what is the Neurochemical relationship.

Could you explain at all, like theory what's going on?

The only theory I would have, and it's again, it's above my may grade. I was reading one time or I was watching a video on YouTube and it was kind of neuroscience and they're talking about when synapses are formed. We have all the reward chemicals, dopamine, melatonin, serotonin. All those things are spiked up. And that got my attention because a common report that people come back and share with me after a session is they usually find me because it to be needs knee pain. And usually the first or second session, that knee pain is either gone or it's greatly improved. But a common thing they tell me is like, man, I don't know what you're doing, but I'm sleeping better. Yeah. So it makes me wonder if what we're doing is actually like making these connections again that were already there that you lost along the way and that their synapses are forming and there's like this chemical release. But I don't know if that's answering your question. I don't know if that's accurate. Yeah, it seems plausible. It kind of fits.

Yeah, it does seem. It does seem plausible. I was thinking about perhaps like the vagus nerve potentially playing a role as well.

People have asked about that.

With the cranial nerves. Yeah. The movement of the eyes and the.

Neck and the thing about the cranial nerves. And then there's something in chiropractic called Love it, brother Reactor. What happens at the neck happens at the sacrum.

Yep.

So if we're getting that stuff just like synced up a little better, there could be something going on there too.

So here's a question for you. I get knee pain when I descend stairs or when I walk downhill. So if I like walked down these stairs right here.

Perfect.

We can do a test with that.

Do that almost every session with people. That's a common question. All right, so we got a lot of back, hip and knees are probably the three most common.

Just walk down these steps.

Yep.

Okay.

And then we'll just check your arm.

Okay.

Internally rotate. Yeah. So even though you can land single like we did earlier, steps are issued right now.

Yep.

Did you feel symptom as you did that or not so much yet.

I felt a little bit more.

So let's go eyes up, eyes down. Let's organize the that. So it's head forward, nasal weaker with.

So now I go head forward. That makes sense.

Yep.

Yep.

Cuz we went eyes up. We had that disorganizing response, and we opened eyes down. It was organized. So we're going to go neutral. We'll go eyes up to check her work. Beautiful. Have you descend the stereos again. But this is exactly it. We find out what is pain provoking. There's a lot of times a. Like a second session deal. I'm trying to clear out this generic trigger, like getting out of chairs, breathing. And then we kind of customize. Customize it late in the first session. A lot of times in the second session, like, what hurts this person? Like, so pain provoking. We can go into, like. I always call them the baby patterns. Like developmental patterns. You can bring anything incorporated into this. Yeah, you do like massage. You can do foam rolling.

Yeah.

Just as inputs in the system.

Okay.

Monitor how. Yeah. Eyes up, eyes down. All right. So organized, organized. So now we gotta look right. Organized.

Up and down. Okay. So now we organize right. Left.

Eyes right. Disorganized. Organized.

Now I look to the right and breathe in. Or. No, this would be. Yeah, yeah, Very good. Yep.

And there's a second one too. So there's our transverse plane piece. And then you go straight at me. Left. Your left shoulder. So you lean a bit of strength as well in the frontal plane and nasal breath there. So it's a lot of times checking up and down because it's. One exercise is to. And I'm. So.

Okay, let's go.

Let's go. I'm an eyes right. Yes, sir. Sarah.

Okay.

And we might clear this. And the nervous system's okay. And you may or may not have a change in your pain. Because I'm not a tissue interventionist.

Right.

Organized cartilage or mixed fritz and movements.

Exactly. Generation.

Yeah. But then we have these crazy stories that people have, like. Like live real time. Like L5 fracture or pain. Yeah, we get the stuff organized, organized. Your pain's gone.

Wow.

Like, God, be careful. Because structurally you're not right. But we got you so organized that pain's such a huge piece that sits tight in the brain.

Yeah.

And we don't. That's a good trigger bud. Eyes up, eyes down. Right or left. You're organized. Up and down. Organize right. So eyes left. This is lean left and turn right. So left ear to left shoulder or. Yep.

Either way.

Either way. The order doesn't matter.

Okay.

As long as you get them in sequence. You know, right. You know, right lean left. Lean or right turn left lane. Good. Left ear, left shoulder. Go eyes right to check the. Was just recently disorganized. Disorganized stairwell.

Okay.

So it all comes down to trigger or train. You throw a pattern at a person if they accept it. We can now train it if it triggers you like. No, no, no. We can't progress yet until we get.

This out of control. Right.

Do that.

All right.

Have you do another one. I just want to see the stairs again. Yep. Because you're organized. I just want to like kind of interview you. What's it feel like? Is it same, better or worse?

I would say a little better. Sakes only descending three stairs, but yeah, right. Subjectively I'd say a little better.

So as long as not if the pain was the same or better, I might say, hey you know what?

What?

We can train this now because it's not disorganizing you. Now if we add more volume and it starts irritating pain like you know what? I don't have X ray eyeballs or more eyeballs.

I don't.

But if you're open to it, I think we should do a whole flight and just see sometime once it's clear.

So go, go down here and just send a whole flight of stairs.

Yep. So that we'll have.

Okay. So I'm standing at the top of the stairs. Longer staircase. You want me just descend the stairs?

Yep.

And we'll see how the software handled it and also what it feels like, especially after I check your software. So I like to get that blind information first. Software is cool with it. Same better, worse. And I always tell don't worry about my feelings. I'm not saying better, worse.

Descending. Yeah, tough to say cuz that was the first time I descended.

Do it again cuz again. As long as the software is together and it's not getting worse, I feel comfortable progressively with volume load, you know, all kinds of stuff.

I'd say a little better jacket.

And it's. It's the left leg as you strike or as you're left knee.

Kind of like from the striking through the unloading phase. I'd say yeah.

Yesterday at dinner or somewhere last night. Toes over knees guy.

Yeah, we talked about Ben Patrick. Knees over toes.

Yeah, let's do some of the more basic drills that maybe I can do.

A few of those. I've actually been doing some of those because I, you know, Ben's gonna come on my podcast. I told him, look, I'm gonna give all your drills like a 30 day fair trial.

So I'm, I love it.

I'm like 10 days in. Okay, let's just do some of these. Yeah, we'll check his lean against the wall dorsiflexion type exercises for tibialis.

And we're going to check you after each one of these.

Okay.

Now if I'm standing here, it's interesting. I didn't notice it's just laying there, but definitely more swelling in the left knee. You can see like. Yeah, your kneecap sticks out more on this side.

Yep. The reason I have swelling in my left knee is because four weeks ago or so I got stem cells injected into it. Oh, gotcha. And the doctor, I don't know if he was aware of this, but when you combine like placental matrix or ozone or anything like that with stem cells, it accelerates the inflammatory response. That knee just swelled right up and kind of like deactivated the quad a little bit.

Oh, interesting.

So when the knee swells and deactivates the quad, what happens is that the, any pain that you have begins to become magnified. In this case, the quad was no longer supporting the movement of the patella. But it was a blessing in disguise because, because it was hurting so much after that injection, I thought, you know, I'm gonna get an MRI just in case. So I got an mri and it turns out that there's actually some significant cartilage degeneration on the femur and on the backside of the, of the patella. So much in fact, that. And I'm gonna do a podcast when I'm down there. There's a procedure, a minimally invasive procedure called an intraosseous drilling where Dr. Matt Cook and another guy, they're gonna go in and they, they use ultrasound guided inter imaging. They do like micro needling into the surface of the degraded cartilaginous area. Okay. Like the back of the patella and the head of the femur. And then they fill that with like a bone marrow, bone marrow aspiration, bone marrow soup. And apparently. And I, I interviewed like six different orthopods about this and every single one was like, yeah, thumbs up, dude. That, this, this should actually be like.

It was like a very targeted work.

Compared to a full on me knee surgery or resurfacing or something like that.

Right. You don't have the recovery time and the rehab time and all.

That's what happened. That's why you still see that left knee. I mean, you can see it's like visible if you see with the camera here. I'll show people on the camera too. Right. See that left knee.

What's funny? Down in the bright light, you know, like kind of sweating a little. I didn't notice it, like.

Oh, yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Okay, so I did some of those. Those dorsiflexion exercises from the knees over toes. Do you want me to do a few more?

Yeah, do them because I'm tying to slept in there. Exactly. Give it a fair test. And then what's cool about this too is like some people like, hey, how's this compared to such and such? Like, look, there's nothing quite like what we're doing, but we're just making sure whatever interventions you use, this is like.

Different than what I did. Down, down. Say like Buellers.

Let's check this.

Yep.

Cool, man. I see the arm right here. Natural, like, cool. Nobody think I can handle that. How about some more neo different ne toe drill.

Okay, so here's another one where you go into the wall.

Wall.

You bend the knees like this. And then it's almost like a kind of like a seated calf raise machine, except your knees are bent against the wall.

Perfect.

There's another one. Now you all do like 30 of one and then do all 30 of these. But I won't do 30 right now.

Yeah, it's got like five or 10 of them. That's perfect. Let's check it.

Okay.

That's what's cool too. We find that it's usually the exposure.

Yeah.

Whether it's one rep or 10, it doesn't.

There's one I could show you that actually does hurt.

I'll show it to you. That's great. I mean, those are good. So maybe start getting ones that are just a little bit.

So like this one. And what Ben told me is when you're doing these exercises, you actually, you only want to go through range of motion. That's pain free. But this is one where even through the. Even through like a baby range of motion, there's still a little bit of pain.

Sure.

But basically, I think he calls this not a Patrick step. I can show you what that one is too. It's like a knees over toes lunge, basically. So go like this and then back. And for this exercise, for example, that he sent to me, I do five reps on one leg and then five reps on the other leg. And you do like five by five of that. Like the whole routine you sent me, I'm supposed to do it three times a week and it takes like 15 minutes.

Nice.

Okay.

How do I feel like you're doing right now?

Little bit of pain.

Yep.

That's the one exercise of the whole series. Gives me a little bit of pain.

I'm Trying to rotate. Stop here. Yep. Eyes up, eyes down. Organized, Organized. Left, right. We'll check. Okay. Beautiful. Eyes right.

Eyes right.

That's eyes right. So it's left ear and right turn with the nasal. So we're just gonna call it a psych. Clearing breath versus a. I'm learning, so.

I'll make it set. So I know some of my audience members, they, like, they'll have their head scratched a little bit. But as I'm as. As we're doing this, every time we do it, I'm understanding more.

Right. And as I tell people, like, all notice setting up seesaws all day long. We have an up, down, seesaw, right, left.

Yep. Yeah.

If you're crashing this side. Well, that's not the problem. Everybody pays attention to crash. Like, what's missing? Yeah. So it's really like a reset, a restoration process.

Okay, now arm goes out again.

Yep. And eyes right. That was disorganized. Beautiful. And I'm going just do one rep of that pain provoking one.

One rep. Yep.

And if it's good, then we'll go three or five, you know, so I always try to be as concerned.

That's actually a little better. Dude.

It's awesome.

Yeah.

That's beautiful.

It is. I'm not just saying that.

No. I know some of the stuff you're.

Always, like, questioning placebo. Etc.

Correct.

Okay. Not bad.

All right, let's check it.

That was four.

That's beautiful. Yeah. So now you get more of the goodies. Because when there's pain, that's a really good driver.

Now, when I do that exercise in the future, my nervous system has already been retrained.

Exactly.

We're hypothesizing.

And maybe let's just stay with that one, because that's a pain provoker. Let's do the same thing blind, because then if you can clear this, that's like, all right. Everything the same.

All right.

Yeah. A little balance challenge.

Yeah.

How'd the pain feel?

I would say it's a little more with the eyes closed right here.

Because the whole thing is, if we can get eyes closed and you're organized.

And I was weaker there. Yeah.

Up and down. We'll check it. So it's mapping you out. Good map. Looking down. Also good map. You're good here.

Yep.

Right, left again. Let's see which one's our guy. Let me see that one again. I think that's your. Give me if you have a turn, right? Yeah.

Yeah.

So I wasn't sure. I went a little harder now just.

Make sure that's on that side.

Yeah. So now it's left disorganized, organized right. Organized right. So now you lean right and turn left. You know, separately with an angle, turn left and through the nose. And then out can be nose or mouth. So then we go eyes, left. Work good?

Yeah.

How about just one or two of the same style lines?

Eyes closed, Lunch. Okay.

I'd say one or two, because what if we got to do this 10 times? I don't irritate you too bad. You know what I'm saying?

I can tell you that first one felt better already.

Beautiful, man.

Nice.

All right.

Oh, yeah. Definitely better.

I love it. Let's stay with this. This is the first thing we've come across. It irritates. Let's make it crazy on you. Let's go. Same lunge, eyes closed, little right, left, head turn. So I will transfer.

When do I do the head turn?

The whole time. Maybe start with it just to kind of get your brain warmed up with it. Yeah, Keep turning. Keep turning. Head turn.

No head turn left, Left.

Yeah, left and right. Keep turning. Just keep turning.

Yeah.

Just throwing a little bit of complexity here. Yeah, it's weird. Beautiful. Let's check the arm. That didn't fool your brain. That's awesome. How about head up and down as you're doing the lunge? Just making that target bigger for your nervous system. Like, all right. If you do all this stuff, I think you have to get an old person and they're out of pain as long as they walk like this. But as soon as you open up, you're like, it hurts the hip. So all we're trying to do is give a bigger target.

It wasn't too painful like that.

Awesome. Here's a weird one. Frontal plane, like ear to shoulder as you're trying to do that. Okay. If you can. It's a weird one. Awesome. It's pretty good, man.

Okay.

Awesome. Yeah, so I love that, like, we can use, you know, the new overtog, because actually his name came up like, three times last month.

Yeah.

But it's kind of cool.

Yeah, it's a good dude. It's very, very kind. Okay, so this is called his Patrick step. Or you just lower the heel and push back. This one definitely. Historically, you know, not almost no pain with it, you know, compared to that, that knee over toe lunge. Okay.

Let's check it.

Yeah.

No big deal for your nervous system there.

Yep.

Any other drills that you do that are either provoking or super challenging?

This one's Like. Like a hip flexor drill where you sit straight up and down kind of. And this is also from knees over toes.

Love it.

Let's go there. Oh, yeah.

Nice.

And then there.

Let's pick one sign and check it because it'll have an independent response.

Okay.

I can even bring. I can come down to the floor and test.

And obviously it's the left one that I'm really focusing on too.

Yep. I know. I'll check you right there if you.

Okay.

Very cool. Nice. Want to try writing? Just because you're going to do both. Might as well check it.

Okay.

Yeah, Right. Now those are.

Yep. Kid.

Those are interruptor. Keep all interrupted. Really?

Okay. What do you think? So we did that one. We did that one. We did the. The step lunge. We did the. The Patrick step. We did the seated one.

The.

There's one that's just a stretch called the elephant walk, which is super. Like, it's an open. Just a hamstring stretch. And then the last one is like the, you know, the Kelly Starrett style couch stretch. So those are really all the exercises and. Love that sequence.

Awesome. Awesome. I love it. Any other things you do? Like, now it's like, hey, what are the things you're doing? Like, let's just make sure.

Crazy. I shoot my bow.

Yeah, let's do that.

Honestly, I just want to do a few with the bow. All right, folks, so we. We moved on to try, like, a functional activity with a. With a piece of equipment. In this case, I'm gonna shoot my bow. And then we test after I shoot my bow. Yep. How many shots you want me to take?

Let's take one shot. We'll check.

One shot. Okay.

Excellent.

Okay. All right. Just killed the turkey. Yeah, he did.

Okay. Disorganization. Go eyes up or down? Check him. Eyes down. That's left or right? Eyes right. Lean right and turn left. Left was to fail. Yep. Nasal breath. So it's cool you're doing the bow because that's. I use this analogy. So just to get a sight in a weapon.

Nice to left.

Yep.

Head left, actually.

So you got two piece of equipment. You got your body and you got the external piece of equipment. You got it.

Okay, shoot again.

Y.

Okay.

Keep checker.

Nice exposure. Nice.

Great.

I dig it.

That's awesome.

If I get enough this season. Again, thank you.

That's right.

That was quick. So. So all we did was. We corrected that. That left eye dysfunction. I was disorganized on the left. I. I shot. You shot. I was disorganized we did the correction. I reshot. Yeah. And tolerated that activity. Yeah, yeah.

So now you can get.

You could pretty much rinse, wash, and repeat this with any activity. Shooting, free throws, anything.

Sports, life. Yeah. So. So then, then you have rehab, you have performance, and you have. In the middle.

Yeah.

So you can do it. Anybody, really?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I want to ask you a couple of questions just to get. I know we're kind of probably getting close to the end of the demo phase for people, but help me to wrap my head around. Let's say I'm sitting here listening to this podcast and I'm like, I don't know if I can learn how to do this myself. I'd like somebody to walk me through it. So average layperson listening in, how they could actually identify activities that produce pain or that they want to become more proficient or efficient at and, and actually go through a protocol like this. I want to ask you what they would do, what the next step for them would be. And then I also want to ask you what the next step for the professional who's like, oh, I want to add this feather to my cap as something I could do with my clients. Okay, so what, what would be the next best place for people to like, learn more or be educated, Certified, whatever the case may be.

Sure. So the general question about being educated in the system would probably be to follow us on Instagram. That's where we're most active, putting new information. So generally speaking, Instagram's the best way to interact with us.

Okay.

For the layperson, we're gonna ask that they're just a little bit patient for now.

And square number one system on Instagram. If you guys go to BenGreenfieldVents.com square one. Square the number one. I'll link to all this. Yep.

And then so for the layperson, we don't. Other than like actually working with me or one of my students, we only have about 300 students. I'm probably only 20 or 30 have been certified so far. Other than that, they have to be patient for a little bit because we're gonna put some. A new self administered version together. He just showed you is like you're fresh.

Yeah.

Stuff we're dealing with you right there at the end the last 20 minutes here. Yeah, that's all stuff that's been like last six weeks. Wow. The impetus moment was back in 2008, so we started teaching in 2012. So I've had a system that we teach people that are more like in the industry.

Right.

So now for the layperson, we're gonna have a product out probably in about three to six months. I'm hoping before 2021's over, probably October, November, December. We're also going to retool the education modules so that we have like in bite sized pieces. Because right now we're making these guys drink through a water hose.

Right.

So we're gonna have that again. October, November, December, we're gonna have new courses for the movement pro. So level one will be kind of what we're doing at the end. Just eyes up, down, right, left. It won't get into joint actions. That's level one. Level two is like all the back roads, all the side streets, and that's.

What we got to teach.

So that'll still be offered, but just give to them in stages.

Right.

In the third phase for the industry pro, we're going to show them how to really customize the selection of people.

Learn this online and then have to go like a live clinic with you.

Currently, they can learn it online. They could go online and buy a level two right now. And I tell people if they're wanting to do that, they should not hold back on buying it right now. Because what we're going to do is anybody who bought, bought, you know, previously, we're gonna grandfather that in as a payment on our next group. So we're not gonna screw anybody over like, oh, now you gotta buy this other product. So they shouldn't have any reservations about spending the money now if they're interested.

Gotcha.

Just know that in three to six months, they're gonna have even better courses coming out. And they already had paid for almost all that admission.

Okay.

And then. Yeah, so then. Yeah, so just for the layperson, you just have to be a little bit patient. But we're gonna have stuff hopefully by the end of this year, early 2022.

Sweet. I dig it. All right, cool. So if you guys have questions or comments or feedback about this whole fascinating protocol and you just call it square one system.

Yeah, square one system.

Squaring you up. Neural restoration. Just go to. What'd you say, Adam?

Neural restoration.

Neural Restoration. Go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com square one. I got no financial affiliation or whatsoever with. With Sean or with Adam. I just think this stuff's cool. To be able to bring new ways to correct the body to. To you guys. You can stay active for life.

Life.

So, guys, anything else you want to throw in for people?

Man, I think you covered it all. Anything you're thinking, Adam, that I need to bring up is that I thought you did great. I mean, I want to say just do it, you know, obviously. But yeah, yeah.

I mean, this guy's the ob.

He's the. He's a Jedi master. He's Obi Wan Sean.

Obi Wan Sean. I dig it. All right, folks, so BenGreenfieldFitness.com square one, Sean. Adam. Dude, thanks for making this happen, guys.

Yeah, thanks for having given us an eye audience, man. That's awesome, dude.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

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