104. In The Pit To Standing On Top

Oh, unbelievable. Yeah, really is like, it's actually like, it gives me goosebumps when I think about it. It really does in such a short time. It's mind boggling. Really, really is.

Yeah. The goosebumps. Talking about the goosebumps. That's a great point to start on, mate. Bloody hell, what a journey it's been so far.

Like we're just saying now it's crazy. Like, it's funny because I was talking, it might have been Ben Henry I was talking to. Just because we, since he's moved up here, we've been talking quite a bit and I was saying it's funny. Like, even when I first spoke to you and I made the commitment, I was still doubting it even then, you know, like, it's like, but you said you're going to do this, but yeah, really, you know, is it really going to be what it. What I think it is? And right from day one it has been. And every week it's just got better and better and better and better and then you start getting results. That's the big driver. It's that thing where, like you say, if you take the action, things happen, you know, and start out just walking. That's how I started out, just walking every morning. 4Ks every morning. And then it went from there. Oh, geez, that's feeling a bit easier. Maybe I'll do two walks or go to the gym one day or do these workouts and then it just goes and goes and goes, you know, it's been bloody unreal, really has.

And for those joining us, either watching on YouTube or listening to this podcast episode, this is a phenomenal session that we'll have with Adrian, one of our members, who's just an elite performer. He's a high performance father because of the. And the leadership that you're showing. Not talking about, but showing and then sharing. And that's a big thing for me, mate. And what you said just then, which is a great start to this episode, I need all the guys who've been following me for a year, three years, three months, just to really understand there are two things that are necessary for you to move forward in your life and one's belief in me. And when I say me, ultimately we've got a team of 10. It's a phenomenal movement and RDM is growing massively. But I mean, us, what we stand, what we can provide, what we promise and what we actually deliver on, you need to believe in that in a genuine way. We don't, as you will recall, Adrian. And we'll go into it made on our phone call. I don't pressure or push or sell anyone. But the second one is, which is harder because we've got so many testimonials, we've got so many runs on the board. How much do you want me to flog and put things in front of people's faces to say, hey, this is fucking real? And we work. The harder one is actually belief in yourself. That's what I find with my calls and the calls that we've had, the dads we connect with. That's the hardest part. Like, it's not wizardry or magic. When I talk to fathers coming on board, it's not me trying to convince them to come on board, it's me trying to help them have a breakthrough. To say, hey, let's fucking do this. I can actually, I can win. I can do it. And believing in themselves and that's a, that's a hard thing. It's. It's crazy how much we fuck ourselves up, mate. To really, to really be in a position where it's not a doom and gloom, life's over. It's just a literal, a subtle, everyday deflating period of life for a lot of fathers. Similar to yourself and your story, mate, where there's that period when they become a father in the next 5, 10, 20 years. It's hard. There's lots of little tests, little trials, little failures and then it's like, ah, fuck, maybe just is what it is. But mate, you as well as all the others have obviously been on the inside are a testament to what can be.

No doubt. And the thing is, Al, it's simple. That's the most mind boggling part, isn't it? Like you say, move the body, just get out into, have a walk, just eat a little bit better be a bit more positive. And then they just. It's like an avalanche. Picks up momentum, picks up momentum. And then you, you don't even have to think about, you know, getting out and going for a walk or eating well. You just naturally gravitate to, oh, I need a snack, I'll have a yogurt or a piece of fruit or some nuts or something healthy instead of getting a chocolate bar and stuff like that. It just becomes. And it's so simple. It really is. That's the part that you. I laugh about when I think about it, you know, like it's the big secret.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Well, that's what we're known for, mate. Like, it's what it's what our claim is, building championship habits. And at a fundamental level, you're right. And those listening or watching, it's not that Adrian's taking away what we're doing. This guy is going to share how he's turned his life around. But it is. It's fundamentally simple. The hard part for us is what we do in the background. Tracking your data, diving in, making sure we've got depth in how we connect, to make it relevant so that you understand and you apply it with level of connection and belief to go. That's the simple thing I actually need to do. And I'm going to do it now. And this is how it'll become part of my identity. And that's what I love about the tribe. It's what I love about dads like you. It's what makes it worth it to me. With all the. All the critics and naysayers, it's like, nah, man, this is fucking legit where we're going, mate. There's no space yet, but we'll make it. We absolutely will make a space for it at this level. But our one's a little bit interesting now, our story isn't because whilst we do get referrals to come on the inside to this level, we obviously don't chase anyone. They have to be willing and ready. And a lot of the times it is through time with podcasts or obviously my paid advertising and things like that. But it was a little bit different, mate. How did you actually. Did you find out through a friend first? Like, how did you actually start to get into the environment or the ecosystem of IBM?

So how it actually came about was through another member, Matty. Matty Bennett. We've known each other for 25 years. He was actually a groomsman when I got married. That was 21 years ago. And I just noticed things coming up on his, through Facebook, you know, just like, oh, Matty, B's like this. And then I just started digging into it a little bit, a little bit. And I saw what was happening with him, how he was. The mindset change was the biggest one and he was just way more positive. And I knew that was something that I needed. So then that's when I just got to the point. Just before Christmas, I think it was actually when I sent you the initial message about making the call and that was it. So, yeah, it was pretty different for it to be like that. But it's funny because I say to Matty, I know you're a pretty straight down the line guy, so if it's bullshit. You're not going to be involved. That's all I needed to know because that's just how he is and you know, I know his family and that sort of stuff too, so. And make like he's an inspiration to me. Like seeing the way he's changed for his, his kids, like, it actually makes me emotional now when you see how he is with his, with Lucy and his young fellow Josh, like it's poles apart to how their life was, you know, 12 months ago, even six months ago.

Yeah, amazing, man. And it's, you know, it's something you cannot even put a level of value or price or anything on seeing that living, that change. And I've brought up in a couple of podcasts. I've got Lucy's letter here that Matty gave me from. And we did a podcast with.

Yeah, yeah, I listened to that. It was really good, which was great.

But yeah, like, you know, when this 11 year old girl is writing, he's changed into such a positive person and turn me into the best person I can be. Change my dad's life for the better. Like, it's like that. That's fucking unbelievable, man. Like that, that sort of stuff like inspires me so much and it's pretty awesome even thinking about that. I mean, I'm still connected with my best man from my wedding, but to have that journey together and the both of you guys being on the trial, awesome, mate.

And now it spurs us along, you know, where actually this, this Sunday we're going on a walk, doing another mountain walk and a couple of boys from up north are even trying to come down and Ben Henry from down the coast. So we're really using it to build as well and keep going. So it's really been awesome. Absolutely awesome.

We've got a little event that will be up there in May. I'll be up there in Newcliff, which would be great to catch up with you and the fellows.

That'd be fantastic.

Building the Maroons, building the Queensland tribe.

Yeah, that's right.

Quite strong, but yeah, it's epic, mate. I wouldn't mind. It's great that Dad's listening to this. Not only they get inspired by your story, but they try to understand too.

I don't know if it's a bit.

Of a facade or something that they put up. If someone sees me and they're like, oh, yeah, it's easy for you out because you're fit or you're strong or, you know, or you're a little bit younger. I Don't know, like there's stories we create. Right. And this is why I love it. Don't just hear it from me, hear it from everyone else, the stories that guys can create. But I wouldn't mind just going back a little bit and trying to understand like what was wrong in life, like why, why was it bad? Why were you like, why did you need something like this and what was it like from. From then to obviously now?

Yeah, I think it was just the feeling now that I knew there was more. It had been probably for me it's probably been nearly a 10 year process. Like I was in a. Working for a big company and a job where I looked after a lot of stuff like at 90, staff working for me at one stage and just was depressed, mate with that. And I thought it was the work and the travel. So I changed jobs and things were good for a while but then you just slowly start creeping back and you know, I got to the point where I was taking antidepressant medication because of it and that sort of helped a little bit. But then it's the same thing. It's like the band aid. So it only little things start creeping back in where you start getting negative, you're not enjoying things and you just sort of go through the motions is what I would call it really. You know, you're not living life, you just almost just a participant, you're just going along with it. And I just knew there had to be more, more out there. And that's why it's funny that I just started seeing that stuff come up on the Facebook. You know, it's just I don't necessarily believe in, you know, a lot of that sort of spiritually type stuff, but there's got. There almost makes me think that maybe there is something to it when you need something and if you're open to it, it'll happen. And that's what happened. It just came to me at the right point in time that I was really prepared to just go, no, I need to give it a go and find something, find some meaning. And that's what it's been.

Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean as well. Like it's not like when. What's that? It's probably a Chinese thing. There's lots of Chinese proverbs. Not obviously it's not a racial comment, but you hear some amazing wisdom from some of those old sayings. And what was it? When the student's ready, the teacher will appear. And it's just I get that with every single father Maybe subconsciously I've been there. Maybe you even might have seen some of my ads as you scrolled past. But when, when there's a. There's a deeper level of you, like you said, you know, And I never say to someone, yeah, it's, it's destiny, you're meant to be. But when you are ready, there's a deeper level that goes, oh, hang on. And then that comes front and center and it's like, okay, yeah. Then here we are. Like, how fast is it, mate? You know, how fast does it go? We're nearly halfway through 2020.

Yeah, that's right. It's crazy, amazing. So fast. But it's so much better now for me. Like I, I'm living life like I'm doing things, we're doing activities and, you know, I'm getting more out of myself and I'm happier and then say because of that, my family's happier and stuff as well. You know, I'm pretty lucky. I've got a super supportive wife and she's always been that way, no matter what, whatever I wanted to do. So that is a big help as well. But just being more of that leader like we talk about, you know, for them and being the best you can is what it's about. Because like you say, it's a short time really, isn't it, that we're here for. It goes so bloody quick.

I get chills down my spine every time I do a coaching session or I do an ad or I do an exclusive video for fathers at Peppers around time. It's like, fuck, mate, you know, whether you 38, 48, 51, like if you live to be 82 and there's no guarantee on that for anyone. Yes, it's the average age, but there's plenty of people to live average lives to that point as well, where their life's been fucking meaningless too. So it's not even the volume of time. But if you just went on volume alone and not even thought about quality legacy or your children relationships, it's a couple hundred thousand hours.

That's it.

Like there's an hour, there's another one, there's another one. Like it's, you know, it's, it is, it is scary when you're not doing anything. And this is.

That's the point.

Yeah.

As we head into winter, mate, I haven't had a cold winter in four years. And it's not because I'm, you know, I live in Cairns or anything like that. It's because people who complain or whinge or bitch about winter. Apart from we got a few guys in Tassie. I get it, it's a bit cold there. But ultimately what they're focusing on is something they're focused on because they're fucking bored, because they actually haven't prioritized how to get the most out of themselves to focus on something else. The winters. And we do winter wars and games and all that on the inside, which is cool. But the winters, mate, they go fast. They go very fast for me, you know, but it's, it's. It becomes a way of life. Off the back of like what you said, you can do more with the family, you're more active, you've got more energy. But what would, what would happen if you didn't change, mate? Like something, you know, is it just a general progression down into your 50s or what would have happened? Adrian?

Oh, mate, it's scary to think about, to be honest. I think you do. You just end up. I reckon you end up just being that cranky old man, you know, like that just sits on the couch and either eats or drinks or does both your life away. And yeah, it's depressing to even think about it, to be honest. But, you know, that's a good part about it is it's. There's the time to fix it, you know, you don't have to accept it. And that's one of the big things is just that I've found, is not accepting. Like, I've made that decision now. It's. We're never going back like that. It's only forward now.

Yeah, it's the only way to be. And whilst there's times with our pink elephant rule, I'll pepper around guys who focus too much on the negative or the alternative or they recognize what they don't want. It gets 10%. Most people spend 90% thinking about that shit. But it's like, how's that serving? How's that working out for you? You know, like, of course I have concerns. I'm a parent. Yeah, of course I'm cautious at times, but I'm never going to use the words worry or fear when my kids are jumping off the lounge on the. I'm like, fuck, what's the worst that'll happen if they don't land on their feet properly, their head's reasonably safe, they might break a bone. But we'll work through that when we do, those adversities are necessary in life. I'm not going to bubble wrap my children. We provide and protect them where we should with responsibility. But it's pretty amazing, mate, to see that when you eliminate that, you then can spend so much more energy, time and focus on actually what you can create. And you're a perfect example of that.

Yeah.

It's funny too, because I joined up thinking that my primary focus was to lose weight beyond being honest. And I've done that. Like, I've lost 15 kilos in just over three months, you know, and that was. And that's actually been through eating more than what I was eating, but better food.

Yeah.

You know, instead of getting a chocolate bar and a packet of chips in the servo because I'm bored as I'm driving around, it's eating a banana or some yogurt or. And moving the body way more, which is such a big thing. But what I actually learned was that it's more than my. It was more my mindset that needed. Needed adjusting and work on and. And challenging and. And from that, the. The health. The health and fitness just comes along with it because you're looking for. You start thinking, yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I can go for a run or I can go for a walk or eat better or do this or do that. And it just flows on, really does.

And that's like a skill set. Like most things in life, they're learned and built and developed over time. That is a skill set I've focused on the most, Adrian, in what you've shared there, where. To the point where actually Lillian, my second born, she's on the birth certificate. It says that I'm a perception coach. I was gene her up and she actually put it on there. And then with Roman, I'm a legacy coach, apparently. And what I.

There's worse things you could be.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. But what I discovered over the last 12 months was probably two years, is really how do you create such a tangible. Out of something that can be so flogged in mainstream mindset, Life coach, and all the things that come around mental and mindset. And then on the other side, it's just pure fitness and body composition. I'm like, well, fuck that. We're neither of that, but what are we actually doing? And what we're doing is creating the right championship habits for you to establish at the forefront what you can use your body for. Because energy is important. How you're steering that with your mind and your belief system, because that's important to carve out the next phase of your life, which is the most important. And mate, here you are running your own business. You no longer. Your body's in great shape. Your training sessions, what you're doing is amazing. Your value, the Add to the group your leadership and how you contribute. The way you see things, the advice that you pass on and give is incredible. And mate, I think you said as well that you're no longer on any. Any of the.

Yeah, done, mate. That was one of my goals. It wasn't initially when I joined up, like I said, it was more about that, like losing some weight to feel better about myself, but that naturally flowed onto it. And then I got to probably about, geez, it must have been in February, middle of February, so about six weeks in. And I just knew that I was just like, they were holding me back. And I just went to the doctor and said, look, I'm going to. These are. I'm finishing. So obviously had to cycle down a little bit, but within two months. So from joining. So January, by the end of February, I totally stopped taking antidepressants, which I'd been taking for at least four years prior to that, every day. And now I see that I was using them as a crutch. They were the band aid instead of dealing with other things that you needed to deal with. And I think the big one is your mindset, and it's how you feel about yourself. And by exercising and eating better, look, looking better, it just flies on. And we're never going back, you know, I'll never go back. And then there's nothing against guys that need to take that, you know, that are on medication, stuff like that. It's different for everybody. I knew that it wasn't. It just couldn't be like that forever.

That's inspiring, man. And it's. It's recognizing the actions that you take to break free from some of those crutches or hurdles that. That we all have in different. In different ways. You haven't even been with us for 12 months, mate. Like, that's fucking amazing. You know, you should be really proud of yourself and everything we've just listed and all the achievements, accomplishments, like, A, how does that make you genuinely feel, man? And B, like, what. What are some specific things in your life now that I better. I know you've touched on things with family, whatnot, but, like, how does. How does a day in life of Adrian look now compared to what he was and how he's feeling?

It's. I mean, my dad. It's like doing the same job and all that sort of stuff, but in terms of, like, energy levels like through the roof. Like I get up most mornings, I'll get up at 4:30, go for a walk, four, four and a half K walk, come home, then I'll work a full day, come home. You know, we might go for my son and I might go for another walk in the afternoon or go with my wife. Just the energy levels are the biggest thing, like through the roof and got back so much time. Whereas before, like I'd get up just before I went to work, the bare minimum, wouldn't eat breakfast, then I'd be getting something shitty at a servo or something like that partway through the morning, you know, so just. It's just been a whole change out.

Yeah.

And it's just going to keep continually doing that because I think that that's one of my big things now is to show to my family, particularly my kids and my wife, that it's not a fad. So now the next three months is going to be next level, you know, we're going to build on where I've got to here and continue to keep, to keep that moving.

Yeah, yeah, it's awesome, mate. And I guess what I'd love to get is probably like, what are some of the common themes or pitfalls? And I don't know, I'm not suggesting you do have friends who are in that position or in a rut or feeling like they're stuck. But what are some common things that you see that genuinely hold a lot of fathers internally and externally? There's obviously different influences, but what are some common things that you think might hold them back from getting this and then they just fucking settle in life?

You know what I think the biggest thing is? It's that we're taught as. And it's getting better, but we're taught as young males to harden up, take a spoon of concrete, don't worry about your feelings or this or that. Such and such has had it worse and we're not allowed to and we don't allow ourselves to be vulnerable. And by doing that, then you have to hold that mirror up and face reality and we just push it all aside and guys, you know, we, we bat it down with alcohol or bad eating or the combination of both or just bad habits. And it's all a facade, it really is. And I think if we can teach guys to be more open with how they're feeling and be honest about things, it'll. That's what it is. And it's taking action too. That's a big thing, you know, like, even if it's small. Just put on those shoes and just go for a walk and do that every day and then build up. It's just small things. You don't have to. I think we think we've got to go from being a big fat blob to Superman straight away, you know, but you got to be prepared to put in a bit of work and a bit of grind. That's not that hard. It really isn't. But I think that thing about being more open and being vulnerable and speaking your truth, I think is a big one. You know, we just, we don't do it enough. But I think it's changing, you know, And I'd like to think that our kids and our boys will be better men because of that. They'll be more in touch with that sort of things.

That's the footprint we want, mate. You know, through IDM and through fathers like yourself who are obviously part of it. A global footprint to go, hey, this is. You want to be a real fucking man. I can be tough and beat my chest. I played elite level sport in rugby league where we tore each other's heads off. No, this is, this is what you want, to play the game for 80 odd years, this is the game to play. You're playing the wrong game. You don't understand. You're still stuck as a fucking boy like Pinocchio on the island, becoming a donkey like all the other. All the other blokes, you know, like, it's so true.

It's savage, mate, really, to think about it. And that's. I'm going to do an episode as well. Obviously I've got one planned on the path of least resistance. But what you said, so many other fathers have said to me, they've said.

Al, it's not that hard. And obviously we aid as much as possible to make it that way for you. Right? Because I need Adrian to win so that Al wins. That's pretty simple. That's my entire philosophy. But that's why we're here. But you're right, it isn't that hard. So when people talk about don't take the easy option, to them I say, well, that's bullshit. You are taking the easy option. Because if Adrian can go through some resistance and change, which isn't that hard, with the right systems and processes in place over four months, that's got to be easier than Adrian, who's into his 50s, still on medication and still overweight and body falling apart like that. That's way harder, I reckon, waking up and saying that and just.

That's just settling though, isn't it? You know, just. That's giving up. It really is. We sort of get to that point where we just sort of accept it. Oh well, that's going to be my lot. But it's not, it doesn't have to be, you know, and there's so many guys. Like this isn't. I'm not alone. Like there's so many guys in RDM that just blow your mind. Like I get goosebumps from through the thread of just the stuff guys are doing and how it's improving their life and things they're doing with their kids and their wife and even their job. Like, it's just fucking mind blowing. It really is.

But I try and screenshot or do a screen recording of the chat group and it's too hard. Like there's 10 to 15 different like screenshots or you know, a 40 second screen recording with impact not, you know, rise to win and weekly temple done and like ones with real impact every day where I'm like, fuck man, how do I, I need someone to be my, you know, on the inside marketing and pushing this message out because I can't keep up with the speed of it all, you know.

Oh, it's one of those things, isn't it? If you could bottle, if you could bottle that, you know, if you could bottle that and harness that, you'd be a quazillionaire, you know, from that sort of stuff. And that's one thing that I find as well, like the more, and you say it as well, like you just said it before that you know, you win if I win. But I get that now from the other guys. Like, you see Blaine put up a post about stuff that he did the other day and like I, I feel good in my heart because of that, you know, Benny moves up to Queensland because he's found a new partner. It's going well, you know, like you take a win and a lot of these guys I've never met.

It'S incredible, isn't it? Even one of our other guys, Jared, you know, posting how he's with his family and his boy, he was the, he was the grumpy dad that everyone feared to walk around. Now he's. He's going out fishing with his sons when. Yeah, with his business and with his wife working, he turns it into a day where it's an amazing connection with his sons.

Yeah, it's just unreal and it makes what I think about as those kids as well, you know, that's the awesome part. You can just imagine his kids, because mine are a bit old, they're 16 and 14. But the dads who have got little kids, like, it would just be like Christmas for those kids seeing how much their dads are changing from being the grumpy fart that just sits on the couch and falls asleep at 4:30 to be, you know, taking them out scooter riding and just helping them with their homework and just night and day and like, it's just, it's unreal really.

Is, what do you think is the importance of having that, like having the right environment and accountability? Like, are they two key, key things or key pillars you think that play a role?

I think it's, it's one of RDM's big, big strengths. Like there's so many resources that you have set up in the other coaches. But I think the one that really like, like the super, the super supplement is the, is the group is the dads themselves. And the way that you fostered that, like that interaction with everyone. And like I said, most of these guys, like a lot of the boys I've never met, but I could honestly talk to them more openly about stuff than what I could people I've known my whole life. Because there's no, there's no level of judgment. No one ever judges anybody for anything they say or how they're feeling or the actions they're taking. They just get supported. And that's a big, that's a huge thing. That's a huge thing.

Yeah, we, we saw that at Kosciuszko. Like there were guys obviously from all over Australia and they'd never, most of them had never met before.

Oh, mate.

And it was just like, just pick up from, from yesterday. It was like that, it was, it was easy. You know, that culture is hard to, like you said, foster Adrian, it's been worth it. There's a lot of hard things I've had to go through on a personal level to establish that. A lot of initial perceived sacrifices and sacrifice of money to stand strong and say, hey, yes, this is for you. We can help you. Hey, this doesn't actually match up. I'm sorry. And it's not like we're not hard asses, mate. It's not like I'm standing at the gate. But there is a process to understand that. Yeah, what we do to create high performance fathers inside RDM can be for every dad, but the reality is it isn't. And that might, that might be a sign for a father to look in the mirror because it's got nothing to do with, I mean it's on them, right? It's got nothing to do with us. We can, if you come into this, into the fold, so to speak, in a universal way with the rest of the tribe adding value to the culture and the group as well as on a specific personal level and how we help you with your own life. You can't lose, man. Like, it's just such a, like the days of me being the big motivational speaker and doing all these videos, which wasn't that long ago, but you know those days where I use charisma and words and energy and physical presence because obviously a lot of what I do is online. But we have several catch ups like we mentioned earlier, to sway and influence people. It's like, man, I don't even need to do that anymore. It's like, this is what we do. This is what I love doing. This is how, this is the data, this is what we show and fucking game over at the end. But what would be, I mean, what would be some advice for you for a father who's listening to this, who's like, whether he's follow us for a little while or a long time. And this isn't for those, this isn't calling and saying, hey, join rdm, but just some advice to like, what is the next step for these guys? They haven't, they've hesitated, they haven't moved. Life continues to spiral down. There's chaos, there's stress. Is it action? Is it not being alone in their own companies at some, like what, what advice would you give, mate, to those fathers who are sitting on the fence of creating a life changing experience and just not pulling the trigger?

I think the number one thing is they already know the answer because they've already started going down the path. So they already know that where they're going is a dead end. So they need to. You just got to take the action. I really do. You know, it's got, and I think it's putting value on yourself, Al. Like, you got to remember that you are worth investing in yourself and not just for your family, but for yourself. Like, shit, you're entitled to have a good life as well, you know, and we think, oh yeah, do it all for the family. But you know, that's the thing that I think is if they're watching RDM and they've seen posts and they're sort of dipping their finger in, they know that they need to do something. And the thing is to just take just Take action. Whether it's. Whether it's sending you a message and booking a call just to see or just doing something, putting it. Going and buying a pair of shoes and going for a walk every day, just don't settle. Because the alternative is no alternative. Like, existing is not. We're not here to just exist, you know, we're here to. Like we say, we're here to win. We're here to live a life. That's what I'd say to them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Couldn't agree more, man. And all the habits, books, all the courses, everything I've done, everything I've seen, everything I've coached through, everything I've gone through myself, either as an elite athlete, a father or anything, mate, it comes down to it is the small incremental shifts and the tiny habits that create the. The big changes. Like you said, even if they. Like, if we inspired one dad today, don't. Even if you don't want to contact us, no worries. Buy a fucking pair of shoes and walk three times this week.

Yeah.

And then send us an email and let us know how you feel. Like, it's. People think there's some silver bullet or miracle cure or secret sauce, like. Well, yeah, there's a level of depth across our main pillars that creates a personal guarantee that I give, man to man, that, yes, you will fucking win. You come into our environment, yes, you will win if you follow through this 100%. But ultimately, it's like, yeah, you can. You can actually go a long way, long way towards taking the next step to that. Off the back of what you said, Adrian, it's something that these guys, they already know, you know.

Yeah, 100%. It's 100%. It's just about being honest with themselves. It really is. And I think the biggest thing is what. What are your. What do you got to lose? What have you got to lose? There's nothing to lose. There's only positives to be gained. You're already living a life that you're not that happy with anyway, because you wouldn't be looking for things if you were happy with it. So you just gotta take action ultimately, like, yeah, I can't speak highly enough of the group and how it is, like, even now, I start, as I say, get emotional about it, just the changes that it makes. It's hard to put words on, you know, And. Yeah, and it's a. I think the biggest thing is it's such a good group of guys. Like, just absolute champions. Like, you know, it's that, oh, I'm not really from a big sporting background, but I know you are. But a common phrase that I've seen in sporting is it's a no dickhead policy. You know what I mean? Like the Swans were famous for that. Yeah. Now when they're in their heyday, and that's what I feel like RDM is a no, it's the no dickhead policy. Like all the egos get left at the door. We're all in here to be better and to support each other. And that's what it's about. That's the biggest thing you get out of it.

Yeah.

Yeah. 100%, man. And it's, it's credit to dads like you, mate, that add to the tribe to create what it is. Because it's not about just me or one person. Never is, never will be. You know, at any stage, regardless of how far our successes take us. You know, it's, it's, it is the tribe and all the other men and fathers who've contributed to it.

And there's a really important thing he.

Said to me which I haven't thought about before when. Because I talk about self value a lot, right? And that's what you said. They don't value themselves. And.

I talk about that from a point of value self by starting doing things. But when they pay money, when they're paying me money, what they're doing is paying themselves and using me as the channel to value themselves to become a better fucking version. Like, it's very simple, man. Like it's a simple exchange on them, you know, and that's, that's a funny roadblock because it's a story that could be created around something which is, you know, a piece of paper called fiat currency to. Or it's the wife or it's the time's not right or it's winter.

It's.

There are all these stories that they get creative. It's like, well, do you actually fucking love the man that you're looking at in the mirror? And what does that look like for you? Do you actually not like him to the point where you're actually gonna self sabotage and keep fucking him, pulling him down and fucking him up? Because that's what we see, man, from the guys who don't take that step. And I don't judge him horses, of course, as we keep moving forward. But it's, it's a frustration to see that it's an illusion that doesn't need to exist, Adrian. And that's what's make that, that's what makes it hard for me. I'm a very loving, empathetic man, you know that. The guys on the inside know that. I'm definitely not cold. That's what makes it hard to. To stay connected to those who don't want to see. Because it's a frustration, because it is an illusion that they are not enough or not worthy or they can't do it.

It's so true. But like you say, you know, you can't save anyone, can you? The horse to water. You can have all the resources and stuff, but if you're not prepared to take the action and make a commitment and just do a little. Do something, it's not going to work. You know, you can have everything you want, but if you're not prepared, it won't happen. You got to meet halfway at least, haven't you?

Yeah, that's what we say, mate. We'll move mountains for you, but you.

Got to meet us.

You got to meet us halfway. And, yeah, mate, what a journey so far. And I've loved sharing your story, mate. It's one of what I do for a little while, actually, because you've had so much success exponentially every single month since because of that, what you shared, the action you take, the leadership. But what's next? Anything specific on the horizons over the next six months? Like, little goals, targets or something? We'll get to catch up soon in Noosa, which will be.

Yeah, looking forward to that in May, meet some of the boys from North Queensland and stuff like that. So that'll be awesome, man. We've actually got a family trip coming up to Uluru with. With the Bennetts. That's in June, July, school holidays. We're driving to Uluru and we're. Yeah, that's a big, big goal. And the thing for me was to be in a good condition, to be able to do walks and see this country and stuff like that. So, yeah, that's probably the next push, is just to keep going. I'm not. I don't want to put any limitations, any, Any, Any ceiling on it. Just want to keep. Keep pushing along.

Yeah, absolutely. And that's what you keep doing, mate. You keep turning up, and I can see that every week there's just a slight change in. In Adrian, and then he keeps leveling.

Up bit by bit.

And then you look over and it's like, in September, you're like, holy. Ow. I remember our podcast, mate, back in. Back in April, and that's right.

Like it, mate.

It's.

It's Incredible to see. I see that. I look at, like, my first few podcasts, I'm like. And there's value in them. I'm not up playing or downplaying myself. People have contacted me and gotten value, but I'm like, man, they were ordinary compared to what I could be doing now. That's the beauty of the journey, right?

Well, that's exactly right, because that's the growth, isn't it? That's the growth that we're all looking for, that 1% each day, you know, just doing a little bit more and getting a bit better and living life a bit more and loving life a bit more and being. Being present with, you know, enjoying things. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome.

It makes it all worth it, mate.

Oh, yeah.

And it's been great having you on, mate. Was there anything else you wanted to add, Adrian, before we. Before we.

No, mate. The only thing I'd like to say is just like I always try and say to you is thank you for the program that you're building and what you're doing for us as dads. I really admire it, you know, and I respect the way that you guard the integrity of it. You know, it could be very easy to sell out with stuff like this, you know, because you're onto. You're onto a winner. You're onto a winner, and you're keeping it. You're keeping to the spirit of it, which is awesome to see. And that's why I think you attract the no policy, you know, guys gravitate to it, which is really awesome. That. And that'd be it, mate, just yet, I. I don't think people say that enough to you. So, yeah, thanks.

Thank you, Adrian. I appreciate it, mate. I really do. And, mates, it's. Thank you for taking that step, because ultimately, when we look at this, none of this would ever be possible if the fathers weren't willing to take that step, you know.

That's 100% true. Yeah. And just a big shout out to all the boys as well, all the dads to you doing it, so. And keep doing it. Yeah, I don't think. I think as individuals, we don't realize how inspiring we are just in our small little sphere, but they are. They're really, you know, inside their family and other families by helping each other out. So keep at it, guys.

Massive ripple effect.

That's it.

Hey, you're a legend, mate. Hope you guys enjoyed this episode. And, yeah, it's charged me up for the rest of the afternoon, mate. What a. What a great podcast. And, yeah, you got to pinch ourselves sometimes when we look at the gifts, not just the gift life is, but the opportunities that we actually have. And when we take them, it's like, well, fuck, yeah, this can be. And it will, and it is. And you're a credit to exactly that, mate. And credit to you for taking that ownership. That's a big thing.

Thanks, Al. Appreciate it, mate.

Awesome, mate.