15. Footloose!

What's the best shoe to wear, mate? Best shoe. Nike added the Pump Airs so you can slam dunk like Jordan. What are the best shoes out there?

Best shoes. Oh, I love a good Nike, but no, I pair shoes at the moment. Yeah. CrossFit. Oh, geez. So I like sketches at the moment. I'm one of them. Sketches are comfy, mainly just for cushioning. Like a lot of the shoes these days, just not enough cushioning, so they're just not enough padding under the feet. And a lot of people are just going towards soft, really soft shoes. Not so much as big, bulky, supportive shoes. And yeah, that's what I'm in at the moment and getting heaps of patience in them.

So nice.

I'm putting everyone on them.

I should do that, mate. The thing is, I love the CrossFit shoes because the response you get. But then me walking around in them all day, though, it's not. I don't think it's ideal to me walk around all day, especially with the bone and bone knee and how compressed it is and my hips out of whack because of that.

Oh, yeah.

I need to get a good pair of probably sketches. I remember I used to wear a pair that was super cushiony, but then when I trained in them, everything started tightening up because it's overworking to stabilize, like a box jump or a double unders or running. But yeah, it's that purpose, isn't it? I guess.

Yeah, definitely. It depends on the purpose too. Like, they're good casual shoes. But anyway, yeah, definitely changes on your purpose, what you're actually doing.

So, yeah, I won't wear the Julius Marlows while I'm doing some Olympic lifting, mate. I don't think it would really work.

You've been surprised, man.

That's right. Dress up day. Cool.

Well, look.

Welcome, everyone, to Real Dad Movement podcast. We've got Cameron Bell. Cam's joining us today, talking fatherhood shoes. The reason that was our intro then, because Cam's a podiatrist and there is a difference between that and a pediatrician, which only took me all the way until fatherhood to realize the difference between a podiatrist and a pediatrician. Yes, Cam's had his own business for 10 years now. Guys, Cessna podiatry. Is that right, Cam?

Yeah, that's right. I've been out there for a couple of years, but yeah, I had one before that, but yeah, so I've been out there for a few years, but I've had my own business for five years, four or five years.

Yep, you're awesome mates. So let's start there, mate. Talk us through it. What's the experience of podiatrists working with feet? I mean, they must be important. I'm huge on ankle mobility and foot mechanics. Like, what are some of the crazy cases or things you've seen that it's really sort of drawn you into the change that you can help people create?

Oh, yeah. Gee. Where do you want to start? There's heaps. Yeah. I'm nearly up to about 10 years experience now, so I've seen most things and I've treated most things with the feet. So I'm still shocked, like each week I'll still be shocked at some of the things that I've seen. So, yeah, just people in general at the moment, I'm finding arts looking after their feet in terms of just keeping everything nice and loose and stretched and wearing the right shoes. Lots and lots of heaps of trouble with diabetes at the moment. So lots of. We see, especially where I am at the moment, lots of diabetics that actually lose their feeling in their feet, lose their blood flow going down to their feet and it's on a weekly basis, obviously amputated toes and people who just can't feel their feet. So just insane. So what goes on with diabetes in the feet and just in general, see lots of. Any sort of issue, like musculoskeletal issues, like heel pain, Achilles pains, tears, anything, anything can walk in the door. So it's really. It's interesting. It's definitely changing. So over the past 10 years, I'm definitely noticing a big change in people. There are more people with foot pain and just general everyday foot pain from not doing the right thing. And just.

Why do you think that is, mate? That it's getting worse on top of.

Their feet and muscles?

Yeah. Is it a lack of awareness or something, mate? Why do you feel that people are getting worse or as a whole.

Yeah, I think it's definitely two different areas, whichever you want to dive into. So the musculoskeletal side of it, like your general foot pain, I just think it's. Footwear has actually changed over the last few years. There's so many different types of footwear out there and also people just aren't. They're standing longer, they're on a lot more concrete surfaces, people are working longer, so they're just on their feet so much and there's just. No. I don't know whether it's educational. Nothing out there for people to know what's a good shoe and what's not a good shoe? So a lot of it, probably 90% of people that walk in the door, first thing I'll say is, what shoes do you wear? And most of the time they're crap. If they can swap that. I just think it's. Yeah, the shoes and also the daily stresses of life too. You know, people in the work life and they're not making time to stretch, like, simple things. Like if your hamstrings are tight, you're more likely, a lot more likely to get heel pain or foot pain or arch pain. And it's just a general driving, driving a lot things tighten up and then you throw in increasing exercise workouts and you have a recipe for an injury. So.

Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say, mate. Surely, like, with the foot pain, does that link up to other areas of the body? Like, if people are coming in there that they're disjointed at the base, where we're connected to the earth, you reckon that travels up through knees, hips, back and all that?

Oh, definitely, Definitely. Yep. Definitely. Most. Most cases of foot pain, what I find, it's not the foot seems to be an end result. It's not the actual foot that's the issue, it's something further up. Like, it might be a lot of times it's, you know, like tight hamstrings, calf muscles or just tight in general, you know, like lower back, things like that. So it's all tied in and, like, we'll see a lot of people who drive long distances or that they're sitting occupations and everything just tightens right up. And most say, do you have any other pain? Do you have knee pain, back pain? And a lot of them say, I've got a lower back issue that I'm getting treated by such rather. So it's all connected and then they come in with their foot pain, sort of like an end result.

Far out, mate. Jesus. It's something where I've definitely seen the benefits of trying to look after the discrepancies that I've had in my body and starting with ankles and feet through mobility and what I do in the gym and the huge role it plays. But I'd love to get your tips, mate on. We can dive into, like, treatment and how to. Because prevention is better than cure. Right? But for you, how to look after yourself. But for you, mate, I'd love to know your tips on. I wrote four things down here, like, best advice on what to look for and what to Try and find and fill with a formal shoe, you know, like people who dress up in suits and those sorts of things for that line of work. Casual shoe, a training shoe and a running shoe. Thoughts on. Yeah, best sort of bits of advice for the common, the folk out there listening for today.

Yeah, definitely. So what I might do also, I might actually name, name a few brands as well and get really granular on the details because I know it's hard to find exactly what sort of shoe and I can say the general features, but if I can name a few, it might actually help. Let's get into say, dress shoes. So with dress shoes it depends on your foot type too. So if you've got. Depending if you've got foot pain or not. So if you've got foot pain, then you definitely want more supportive shoe with a bit more structure to it, but if you don't, it's not such an issue. And same with, if you've got like a really flat foot, you want a bit more support and if you've got a higher arch, you want a bit more cushioning. So there's a few variables in this. So it just depends on what your foot's like. But in general, a dress shoe, probably best type of dress shoe is an ascent dress shoe. So they're from the athlete's foot, just a dress, like black enclosed dress shoe. But they've got lots of support, lots of structure to the shoe, but they're also nice and soft and cushiony. And there's also a few other brands like I know Skechers because I know, I love them at the moment, but I know they've got a really softer dress style shoe which is nice and lightweight if you don't have any foot issues. Just a general sort of black enclosed dress, walking sort of shoe. Another one would be a Brooks Brooks Addiction Walker is the name. So be different there. I could rattle off a few more, but they're probably your best a few different times with a little bit more support and structure. So for you to get through the day a bit better.

Yeah. What about like a training shoe, like in a gym and then like a shoe for running?

Yep. So with, okay, so with your training shoe, like if you're doing lots of weights, jumping, you know, all that sort of stuff, you want a shoe similar to your CrossFit shoes. So you want a flat shoe. You don't want something with too much of a heel, so you want something like you. They still have the nanos, Reebok nanos, like something like that. It's just really flat, lightweight, flexible, not too much bulk. And so you can still have lots of cushioning as well. So, yeah, you don't want too much of those minimalist, light Vibram. Really, really thin, very bare. Yes. You don't want too much like that because you still want a fair bit of softness under your foot. But, yeah, in particular, if you're doing lots of squats, you really don't want a higher heel in shoe. So that's for sort of weights in the. In the gym itself. So I think there's a few different brands that have got similar shoes to that now. Like, there's even, I think, Under Armour and Nike.

Yeah, the Nike metcon I've worn before. Yeah.

Yep. So the running.

Yeah, running. I think I remember you mentioning Konas. I think one of my mates, Brenton, who does like some extreme triathlon stuff like that, I think he was talking about. Are they the ones that are massive?

Yeah. So they're Hockers, Hocker, Onionies.

Hocker, Sorry.

Yeah. Yep, yep. So they're. I actually wear those at the moment. They're awesome. So that's probably what I'd jump to. If you. Even if you've got foot pain, they're really, really good shoes. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Well, they're actually what they call Maximus shoe. You get a minimalist shoe like your Nike Freeze and all that. These are Maximus shoes. So they look really big and bulky, but they're just as light as a normal lightweight Asic. So they're super light but super cushioned. So they're really soft underfoot and they feel amazing. So they've got a bit of a sort of like a rocker bottom sole. So it actually helps you. Helps you walk, helps you toe off. And when you're running it just feels amazing.

So maybe I should get some for my knee, mate. You reckon that would work with my knee if I was going to go runner in that?

Yeah, definitely. I'd definitely give them a go. They do feel a little bit weird at first to get used to. So if you do get a bit.

Of 6 foot 8 tall instead of 6 foot 4.

Yeah, yeah. They feel definitely. They feel a bit strange, but they're awesome for hockers. They definitely got so much cushioning. So when you're running, you're not going to have as many of those injuries. So, yeah, I'd probably jump to the Hockers for your running. And then there's a few other brands, like you've got your Brooks Asics New Balance shoes like that. So depending on your foot type again. So if you've got really, really, really flat feet and you've already got knee issues, back issues, hip issues, I'd try the Hockers, but if not, I'd probably go for a bit more supportive, like a Brooks Adrenaline is the name, with a little bit more than. More like a running, lightweight running shoe. But they've got lots of support in them, so. Yeah, but yeah, I reckon the best thing would be to go into a good shoe store, get fitted, try on a heap of different shoes and see what's actually comfortable in the store.

So what is a good store? Athletes footnote?

Yeah, probably athletes. Yeah, athletes who are pretty good. They do a lot of training with the actual podiatrist, so they know a little bit more than some of the other stores. So. And they're everywhere too. So they put you on, I think it's called the Fitprint machine, and do an overall assessment of your feet, but it's a general guide to what your feet are doing as well. So to give you an idea of you roll in, roll out. But that's what I'd probably recommend. Jump into Hockers, see how you go. Try one of the other bigger brands as well. So I'd probably steer clear of. Especially if you're doing a lot of running and you do have footpoints. So if you want to stick with Nikes and things like that. So you want a bit more structure to the shoe.

Yeah, yeah, fair enough. And just for the listeners there, like, price point wise, is there much of a difference generally in price between all of them?

Yeah, there is. So the looking anywhere from about 150 to 250, 280. So just depending on your hockers, I think are about 240, 250. So, yeah, it's definitely better to get a bit more expensive shoe. You can definitely. You pay what you get for what you pay for with shoes.

Yeah, well, that was going to be my next because Cam is a father of two kids. Is it, mate?

Yep. Two kids.

Yep, yep. Cam's a father too. And that was going to be my next point mate, that I was going to bring across. We'll talk about fatherhood and business owning and the training and finding that balance in life, mate, in a minute. But I'm curious to know your thoughts and advice on children. Like, surely there's some value out there that parents need to know and understand when it comes to footwear and kids, because they're growing so quick and how to get them in the right structure so they can grow, but the right support and comfort, like, what's your greatest feedback or advice and tips on that, mate?

When they first start walking, you actually want them as barefoot as possible so they can actually develop their little muscles. So you want little shoes called pre walkers. You don't want big bulky shoes with a big thick sole.

Okay.

Then when they're like toddlers running around a bit more, you still want really, really lightweight, flexible shoes. You don't want a big, stiff sole supportive shoe.

Yep.

And then once they go to school, they've got a bit more weight in them, their bones are a bit more formed. That's when you get a bit more of a supportive shoe. Like a. You get ascent school shoes with a bit more support and structure to them. And also good kids shoes are skinny kids shoes, which are really, really good for kids. So they're lightweight, natural fibres and they're actually good for that sort of age group anyway. How do you spell that, mate? So it's S, K E A N I E. Skinny.

I'll look into them as well.

Yeah. And there's a few other.

Sure.

The different kids shoes like. But you really want just your natural leather upper and a good lightweight midsole that's nice and flexible. So they can actually. You don't want to. I've seen kids in converse shoes at 2 years old. They're just not good.

Crazy. What are some of the issues that you see, mate, if parents don't look after their kids and their shoes and their feet?

Yeah, kids, because it's such an important development stage, you can get lots of different issues. Like they can intoe a bit more, they can get lots of blistering, they can get skin reactions like eczema, contact dermatitis in the feet and you can actually affect their development in their feet as well. Like if you're putting them in the incorrect shoes, if they're too tight, it just causes all a range of issues. Yeah.

So what do you think's the best thing? Prevention is better than cure. And I want to see like. Or if they do have irritations, like, what would you suggest for people to really manage and look after their feet? It's an important thing. It's probably the ugliest part of the human body. Who knows? I'm not sure. But people tend to not talk about it much. But it's an important part, mate. It's what grounds is what connects us. And look, what would you suggest? Like how to treat or self treat or self manage issues that people can have.

Yeah, definitely. I'd probably start with just keeping all your muscles nice and loose, like doing a heap of stretching, getting yourself a foam roller or lacrosse. Lacrosse ball, like a massage ball. Get one of those. And just whenever you get a chance, like overnight, and we've got ours in the lounge room, just on the floor, leave the ball there and actually just as simply as getting a lacrosse ball, massage ball, just rolling your foot on it every night. So I'm just really, just trying to stretch out all those intrinsic foot muscles and then jumping on the foam roller, stretching out all your calf muscles, hamstrings, and really, really trying to stretch out all those muscles. Because a lot of the issues are just coming from all that muscle tightness. So, yeah, just get on the floor to a heap of stretching with your hamstring stretches, calf muscle stretches at the same time, that fixes a lot of issues. So sometimes, a lot of the time when patients come in, we first start with that, because I know that's a root cause. It's not. It's not to do with their orthotics or their biomechanics or anything like. That's purely just tightness in the muscles. Yeah. So jump on the floor, free up.

All the tissue, and definitely. And you know, the funny thing is, though, sometimes I look at that, I'm like, well, is it a chicken and egg thing as well, though? Like. And I'm not saying their feet cause it, but it's like something in the position, how they hold themselves, not necessarily standing, but sitting or what they do for work, like you said, walking on hard concrete surfaces. Do you feel like some of that stuff that people are doing in their daily routines, daily lives, affects the muscles, which then affects the fe. Feet, which then affects the muscles again. And it can become that vicious cycle. Like, if. Is that something that you find could happen as well?

Yeah, definitely, definitely. So there is a cycle there. And that's a hard thing about treating some people, too, because you can get them. You can do all the massage you want and get all the biomechanics. Right. But if there's an issue going on with, you know, if there's a, you know, on the different surfaces, and if they're doing something extrinsic is actually stirring it up. It's hard to. Unless you remove that. That's just the cycle. So that's where we do actually look at everything that's going on when someone comes into the clinic, too, and just see. Exactly. We try and find out exactly what's going on in the background, too. Yeah.

Absolutely. It sounds like you're bloody nailing it too, mate, from all sides, which is impressive.

Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. So that's, that's what I'll probably do. Jump, do a heap of stretching, try and rule out those sort of things.

Yeah, sounds like you're bloody right into it, mate. With 10 years experience, love to know how that all fits into family life, fatherhood and yourself, mate. Training. Cam's a member of rdm. He's crushing at the moment and doing very well. But we all have the up and down weeks, don't we, mate? And how does all that tie into, like the business and then working in your family and being a father and then for yourself?

Yeah, definitely.

How do you do it all, mate?

How do you do it all?

Yeah, give us some tips.

Some tips. I don't know about that. I'm still trying to find it myself. But it's definitely a balancing act. As you know, it's just constantly. Or it's not really a balance, is it? We're sort of in one end and the other. But yeah, I generally try. I try to find a bit of a balance during the day. So I've actually had a fair bit to do with the kids from a young age. So I've actually tried to only work about three days a week, four days a week, while they've been little and my wife's been working the other days. So doing all that and then trying to actually run a business as well and get some training in. So generally it's definitely a hard thing to know. I generally try and set up the day as much as I can. So generally I try to get up well before the kids. I normally set the alarm for 4, 4:30. If I can try and get up then and actually get things done normally I'll go jump straight on the computer and do a few things for work where there's actually no noise, nothing around distracting me. So that's how I actually get the business side of it done. And then I actually either try and get straight to the gym and get a workout in really early or just I actually go to another room and actually just do a heap of stretching actually and put on. There's an app called Calm Calm App. It's like a meditation app. I'm not, not woo woo or anything like that at all, but it makes a huge difference. So just. Just having a bit of space and just trying to, Even if it's 10 minutes to stick on that in peace. And then it sets up the day like. And then I Find that everything else, sort of the balance of trying to do things with the kids and do the business side of it and actually just eat well and train well, it's. It sort of all starts from the morning routine.

Yeah.

So that's what I'll try and start the day like that. And then if I'm going to work, I've obviously got to try and be switched on and give my best to the patients. So if I can start it like that, it generally makes a big difference. But, yeah, it's definitely up and down. So I definitely have my not so good days and weeks. But especially being part of rdm, you get back on the horse a lot quicker, like you're not blowing it too much, especially with training and nutrition. So that's it. I sort of manage my. Just every day and then just try and really keep accountable, like to you guys at rdm, and really try and just stick to it like that.

But definitely that's two plugs for free as well, guys.

Just.

Awesome. Thanks, Ken.

And that's.

Yeah, mate. Myself included. And that's what I love about our group and what we do, as I do with most people. Well, with anyone I engage with, I guess, being truthful and transparent. And I have rough times as well, mate. That's why I was curious, though. Obviously you're part of the RDM system and you're right, guys have that level of accountability and motivation to get back on the horse. And it's funny, I've seen a lot of other trainers out there talk about bagging or slagging motivation. Motivation's shit. Doesn't mean this, doesn't mean that, blah, blah, blah. I thought, well, it's funny because I've heard that a fair bit, mate, but motivation's a word and when you look up the dictionary, it ties into words like reason and purpose. So you can pick any word you want. It's about what you connect with. And would you say that's a fair assumption or a fair gauge in which you can use it to help you get back on when you feel like you're down and shit's hitting the fan, so to speak?

Yeah, definitely, Definitely. Yep, definitely. Using that sort of place, having something accountable and you're actually motivated to be part of the group too? I think, definitely having that, you wouldn't. Wouldn't do it otherwise, unless you've had some sort of accountability. Yeah, yep, definitely. Well, what's motivation?

Yeah, and that's. I feel like those things both lead into state. The state that we want to be in more often than not. And that's two things I want to touch on, mate. It seems like one of the best things for yourself is routines, structure, setting up a plan. Would you say that's fair? But what do you do in the rough times, mate? What's something that you could share that could be helping a dad out there right now who's listening to this and he has tough times as well. What are your strategies? How do you.

Yeah, definitely can definitely answer that. So I sort of revert back to this quite often. Yeah. A few years ago, as you know, a bit of a story. A few years ago, I had a bit of a rough time. I had another business and it was just sort of consuming me and just really trying to trial these strategies to just get my head clear and actually focus on the kids and the business and also be a good husband and everything. All the shit that we all have to deal with. So I've tried heaps of different stuff and what I revert back to is just trying to get sleep and that's one thing I still struggle with and just trying to manage stress. And it all comes from that morning routine or even daily routine. So if I'm having really shit time and I'll revert back to this last few weeks. So I'll try and get to bed at 8:30, 9:00 clock at the latest, if I can set the alarm for four. So you're still getting that eight hours, Seven and a half, eight hours. It sounds insane getting up that early, but you go into bed fairly early if you can. And then I'll get up and then I get straight onto getting the most important thing done. So if something is just really annoying me or if something's stressing me so much, I'll actually try and get that out of the way if I can. If it's not to be done in business as you know, if it's things to be done for work wise, I'll jump on the computer and try and address as much as I can in the early morning in peace and they'll go clear head and then actually write a bit of a plan. At 4:30 in the morning, writing a bit of a plan of the day and just shit you need to get done to free up that space in your head and do that and then, yeah, just take a lot of time for yourself before the day even starts, before shit hits the fan. So do some stretching, meditating, go for a run, do some sort of exercise in the morning. Yeah. And then so kids will be up at 5:30, 6:00 clock and you've already got a lot of that air to your head. You've already done your stretching, done your workout and you've sort of set up the whole morning and then if I'm really struggling, same sort of thing, I'll do that through lunch. Just turn off everything. I actually don't. I try and turn off my phone. Another tip is during the day, like if, if you can't get back to someone or do something in the hectic times, I actually turn off my phone. Unless I can actually address it then and there. Yeah.

So you're not.

Little things like that, It's. Yeah. That sort of manage the whole day so not constantly trying to deal with the kids, answer calls, you know. Yeah. Just your general stuff, you know, get here, get there. So a lot of times put the phone down less. I can actually, I can't get back to someone or if there's no need to have it there. I actually just turned off or I'm put on airplane mode and then sort of fully present and just that alone, like you just get in that a bit more, a bit more clarity and can actually give the kids 100% and whatever you're doing anyway.

So I like that mate, the airplane mate. Because like even if it's a message or a text or an email, by the time you. It takes your attention away.

Yep.

You're reacting to whatever's there, you're unlocking it, you're reading, absorbing it. Even if it was literally flicking back a 30 second email, it's probably minutes. And not just that and a compounding effect, it's minutes that you're investing in that and the minutes you've taken away from being in the flow of the state you want to be in to what's important to you. Which mate, you do that five, six, seven, ten times a day. There goes three hours.

Yeah, definitely. It's also like you carry on that too. Like if you get a message about anything sort of thing or if something pops up on your phone, you automatically pick it up, look at it and then you'll think about it for the next 10 minutes, 15 minutes. It sort of takes you away from what you wanted to do. Even training. Like if you take your phone to. I don't take my train, my phone into the gym at all because I know if it goes off, I'm looking at it. It takes you away from actually training.

Yeah, absolutely. I made a couple of notes here, mate, because I'm going to use that in my next Talk. It sounds. That's awesome advice because what I took away from that as well is the crucial moments of our life, mate, which is just before you go to sleep and when you wake up. Sleep and wake up, two very important moments. Because during the day you can do things like you said and have a bit more structural planning and all of that, but how we carry ourselves into essentially really the most important part, your sleep and recovery and nutrition so that we can do other things and then how you start the day when you wake up. They're two huge parts, mate, that I've actually never addressed collectively together. That would. Sounds like for yourself anyway, mate. Helps you get. Get on top.

Yeah, it sure does. It's not. Not every day I do that either. Like I try to, but I think it's just in. I try to as most days that I can, but it's. It's in those really tough times, especially if you're trying to train and you're trying to manage your kids and you're trying to work and you're doing all that you need. Well, I personally, and I know it would probably help a lot of your listeners as well if you can sort of nail that nighttime and morning routine and just also get a bit of a plan for the day before it even starts, before the kids run into your bed and start screaming and carrying on. Throws everything out, doesn't it?

Yeah, that's right. It does, mate. It's good to always have a plan and then try and work the plan, mate. But there are variables, as you know. And that's a huge part of fatherhood. Like me today, taking Corinne's keys by accident in the car with me up to the gym and she had a heap load of different things she had to do. Yeah, yeah, it was very. Yeah. In the doghouse, put it that way. It's funny what I actually do before I go to bed sometimes it just clear my head is I send myself an email, which I find works. I like writing, I still like writing, but I send myself an email, call it my to dominate, listen, couple of key things and then when I punch in there, I don't think about anymore and I find that's a real good switch. So if you guys listening as well or watching, it's a really good switch as well, I find because once you do that, you've mapped it out, it's all there, you've got some sort of structure, even if it's not down to the T. It's. It's the key things like your power list. Or those top five things that you want to achieve.

And then I can just wash my.

Hands of it and relax and go to bed and things like Calm. That's really good. I like that app. That's. That's awesome, mate. Both. If you're winding down or if you were starting the morning, it's important to have that sort of stuff. I think there's a lot of power in music and frequencies with that and whatnot.

Yeah, I think there is. Like, it's definitely. If you can switch off and just fully be present with the. Just not think about anything else, it makes a huge difference. Yeah. So another. Another tip I'll try to. Try to do is actually I've read this book by Gary Keller called the One Thing. Have you read that?

I've heard of it.

It's. That's. Yeah, it's amazing. Like, I've definitely tried to follow as much as I can with that, but basically it's all about trying to just do. Get one thing done that will make everything else easier. So if you just do one thing that's. That's on your to do list, on your power list, what you're saying. Yeah, do one thing and that. That will make everything else easier for the day and you can apply that to everything. Like even just making the breakfast.

Just.

Just make your breakfast. Don't focus on the tv, the phone, just. Or make a cup of tea. Just make a cup of tea. That's it. Yes. And then be fully present. Actually look at the tea. Actually look at the water point. And then you don't. Let's just say don't have a bit of a monkey brain all day.

Yeah, that's right, mate.

That's what I try. And really just, you know, I'll put that everywhere. Just try and remind myself that. Just focus on one thing at a time because you clear ahead, you get more stuff done, you train better, you eat better.

Some good power with that too. Because once you do the one thing, obviously automatically, you probably go, cool, I've got that. I've really nailed that. What's the next one thing that's not a bad way to be present in the present moment, but actually accumulate over the day. Getting a few things done, I'd imagine.

Yeah, definitely, definitely. And you actually feel like you've accomplished full effort into.

It's interesting that calm. Cause I haven't listened to. I've got a playlist on Spotify called Perception and. And I haven't listened to that for the last five days in a row. I just Haven't. It's sort of funny. It's something I've done for nearly two years now and the last five days it just hasn't happened. Which goes to show guys, it's so hard to maintain good habits, let alone break bad habits and create new habits. All three. And it's funny, I've been angrier. I've actually been angrier in the morning, mate. I've been short tempered and short fuse and yeah, it just felt a little bit sort of gritty at times. Still had some good days over the last five days. Heaps of other things going on, kids sick and all that. But yeah, isn't that funny? Hey? The power of starting your morning right and how we can quickly forget that which aligns us to the best way to start the day and what's important for us.

Yeah, yeah, yep, definitely, definitely make a huge difference. Especially you know if I'm struggling at all like even getting back into training or getting. If nutrition's been off. I just know if I can get that right morning, get a few of those things even if it's just getting up early, doing some stretching, it makes a huge difference. So.

Yep, awesome mate. Well, yeah. What's on the agenda mate? What's down the path a little further for the rest of 2019 plans with both yourself DM, what you want to achieve physically mate and and in personal and business life, what's ahead.

Yeah so I'm pretty, pretty happy at the moment with RDM like I'm definitely.

Thanks mate.

Yeah it's definitely another plug there so it's the best thing ever in case anyone wants to. But yeah just try and stick to a lot of the. You lay it all out for us. So let's stick to all the workouts and really and just build the consistency still so and keeping that accountability so and just so come into summer like we're doing the winter wars as you know to try and nail those and really try and keep the training up.

Good fun with all the games and we've got 150 push ups a day coming soon.

That's it. Yeah.

21 days. That's going to be epic.

Yeah definitely. So yeah keep up the consistency with that and just, just try nail nutrition through winter. That's the hardest thing too. So yeah that with the RDM anyway and just try and keep that consistent and family wise we've got pretty busy time of year. Kids are little girls at school and the older ones, younger ones are preschool so just yeah just trying to really live life with them. Actually just try and really take it all in and not wishing away too much and try and be the. Be the best dad for them. So I'm pretty busy at work at the moment, so I'm just trying to. Again, just trying to do that balance. So, yeah, this year, sort of coming into the later half of the year, generally gets a lot busier with all that. So just stick to the routine and try and keep a bit of a balance.

Yeah, it's always that juggling act, isn't it, mate? And there's a few people out there who don't believe in balance. And I think balance can be defined as whatever you want it to be. And for me, the definition of balance doesn't necessarily mean having balance every single moment of the day. Like, you don't have to have balance in your life to still live a balanced life. I think there's times when priorities need to shift, as you said, mate, whether it's the kids and certain things, or you get a good block of your training and you sleep and everything's fine there, so you make good increments there. Or work with business, being busy. But it is striking for those three things, isn't, mate. Family, self and service, or work to create some value to the world. And you're doing well, mate. You're doing really well. From when you started with me. It's been. It's been great to see that, the changes in the journey so far.

Yeah, it's been awesome. I really loved being a part of RDM and yeah, it's been great. So, yeah, just on that too, like, I think, like, balance, it is funny what you say, isn't it? Like, it's definitely not. You don't always have to be in balance. I think you. And yeah, same with me at the moment, you're generally all in on one thing or the other. So some weeks I'm up till 12 o', clock, 1 o', clock, just getting work stuff done and then sometimes I'm just like, yes, I. We just had older girl, had the day of school and we just focused on the kids, did nothing else but just. I'll just try and. Yeah, because I had a bit of a crazy week and they're all out of sync, so just really focusing on them for one day, letting everything else go. I think it's definitely. If you're trying to stay in Valentine, that's when things go wrong, to be honest, a lot, don't you?

I agree, mate, massively. Because all those points are organic. They've got a high level of fluidity because they're all involving people, including yourself. So you can, without manipulating or taking, taking advantage, you can definitely bank certain things like you said, and then cash in on those at moments when it's important. So you can bank a level of interaction, engagement and love, enjoyment and what you've done with the kids for a whole day. But then on the Sunday, say for example, then the Monday, we're kicking ass. I've got 14 hours straight. We've got to do business. I've got this, this, this and that. But you've fed that part of your life and both your children and yourself. And that's allowed you to invest a high level of focus and inject yourself more into that part of the business that you have to focus on for that day.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I agree with that for sure.

Yeah. The whole balance, it's like that thing I've heard before about people talking about building your weaknesses and trying to level. I don't believe in that. I believe in competency for sure, across things that involve your life. I'm not looking to be the next neuroscientist or anything like that, or next artist to paint a big Picasso. But for me it's about. I feel like being competent in certain areas that involve and include what's important to you in your life, fatherhood, business relationships, but also focusing heavily, heavily on your strengths, mate. Like, we've all got different gifts to give the world. So that's a strength of yours. You want to triple down on that and just absolutely nail that. And that's going to, I feel, give you more leverage anyway in other areas, your life where you might not be as competent or as able to draw from. Whether it's assisting or hiring extra help for certain parts or buying freedom from what you've done in certain areas to engage and do more things with the kids or with your family like you've done, mate, not working the six, seven days a week and finding that balance in its own way across the board.

Yeah, definitely. Oh yeah, 100% agree with that. That's definitely true, isn't it? Yeah, definitely. I think we too. Yeah, we definitely focus on too much of the balance and try and do everything, don't we? And that applies to everything. Exactly. What, like you said, like you can do that with business wise, instead of trying to focus on doing everything and being the conductor of everything. If you can just do one, one thing and sort of offload things that you're not good at. Definitely. And same with, you know, kids and training and all that, I think. And again, with training, like, if you just do what you enjoy, I think you can probably stick at it a bit longer too, rather than trying to do different things that you're not good at and try and improve it sort of for the everyday trainer anyway, so.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, mate. And when you look at that, it's. Imagine that, like trying to do bits of everything that'd leave everyone unhappy and unfulfilled because you never dominate or own or be present or really fulfill any of those one points.

Oh, definitely, yeah.

But see for yourself, mate. It's been a pleasure having you on, Cam. Thanks for joining us.

Oh, thanks for having me today. It's been great.

Been great, mate. And hearing some of your story, mate, what you do with podiatry and there's so much value in that stuff, guys. There really is. If you're close to Cessnock, obviously. Check out Cam and Cessnock Podiatry. If you're close enough to travel or look him up online, mate, you'd have a website, I'd imagine.

Yeah. Got a website. Yep. Cessnockpodiatry.net.

Any question or anything you need, guys, sing out to to Cam or myself otherwise. And yeah, it's been great, mate, hearing your story, how you're handling some of those tips. That were some great tips that I'll actually apply as well with myself, mate. Never stop learning. Appreciate that.

Yeah, no, that's right. Yeah. Hopefully the putware tips and a few of those help the listeners and feel that just a daily.

Absolutely, mate. There's so much value if you can move properly to that which, like I said before, you connected to, mate, I think everything else can flow easier, work better. So awesome. Thanks again for jumping on today, mate.

And appreciate your time.

And thank you also, guys, for watching or listening to this. And that is how the plantar fasciitis crumbles. That wraps up our Real Dan Movement podcast episode with Cam. Thanks again, mate. Thanks guys for joining us and we'll see you on the flip side. Take care, guys.

Thanks.

Cheers, mate.