230. Over 200 Pull Ups, $500,000 extra and a connected family again
5 Mar 2019 · 52 min
Nathan did 225 pull-ups in 48 minutes and made $500,000 more in his business after 13 months in High Performance Father. He talks about the habit changes, accountability, and how showing up for himself changed his family.
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225 pull-ups
48 minutes
About 13 months
An increase referenced around $500,000 (half a million)
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Actually in 48 minutes.
Do 25 in 48 minutes. How many of you men out there are able to do? Comment below, post share Send us an email if you're listening to the podcast. That's awesome, man. 225 and 48 minutes. So what's where you're hitting a nearly five. Nearly five a minute. That's. That's tough to hold, man. I think I was sitting around 4.1 maybe when I was having a good crack at it. But hey, well done. Thanks for joining us, Nathan. It's great to have you on, man, to share, you know, your journey with HPF and it's almost like we've only just begun even though it's been 12 months. But it's. Yeah. Very interesting, man. Very interesting. Great to have you on today. Thank you for giving us the time though, man.
Nah, cheers. Thanks for having me. Glad to be here actually. Yeah, been good.
Yeah. Look, it's it's very inspiring, man. Like, when you guys are going to be part of this, obviously watching or listening on the podcast or watching live in Facebook, it's really interesting. When you look at your life and you understand boys, you just have a series of choices. There are a series of decisions that need to be make. Need to be made. The game of life is definitely one with speed. Unfortunately, too many men don't operate at the speed they need to in either A, making decisions or B, falling through on them. Right? We spoke about that, Nath. We spoke about courage, spoke about standards before we hit record. We spoke about high performance father and hpf 3.0 and the evolution. But this is your time, man. This is your turn. I don't need to do a lot of talking, but I'd love to hear from you because there are guys out here who are probably fucking sick of my voice. But. But, you know, in all seriousness, it's men like you that, A, make this worth it, Nath, and B, provide the message that becomes pivotal for the man. Even one man out there watching this right now, and he's like, fuck, that guy's me, man. I need to do something. HPF or not, you need to do something because it never ends, boys. That's. That's the secret to life. It never ends. And I'm not talking about, obviously you die. I'm talking about continual pursuit of growth. You never reach the top of the mountain. You just reach a mountain with a better view now to see bigger mountains. But, Nath, talk to us, ma'. Am. How long you've been with us for? How have you found the journey so far? But then. Yeah. What was happening before hpf, before you started with us?
I suppose I'll start. What was happening before I started with hpf, which was. It was. It was at a point amongst a lot of other things where I was sick and tired of being sick and tired, to be honest. Not in the sense of the terminology. But you felt. I felt like I was on the hamster wheel. It was a constant grind. Things weren't the best at home. We've got two young children. This, to me, sort of started about probably nine to ten year ago. And up until now, I didn't realize that everything I was doing was driven from resentment and blame towards, you know, your upbringing and different things, but hurt me enough to want to make a change. One day I came home and the typical. The typical thing, you know, we. I work a lot away from home, too, and I was a lot more back then. I was Sort of only home one weekend, probably, or a solid week, five to seven days per month. We had a newborn, our first child. Clancy and Megan sort of battled through to a degree. And my opinion of it was, oh, you know, she'll be right. We've got to do this. You've got to do this to get where you've got to get, not knowing any better. And then when the second child came, it really hit home. And I got raised a huge red flag by my wife when she said she couldn't. She couldn't deal with this anymore, you know, and when that hit, when. When she said that it wasn't. It was everything. It was. It was where we were at, where I was at. So I always sort of pointed into the mirror then and knew that I had to make a change. I knew that for a little while. But.
My.
My thing was I can work my way out of it. I've never been scared of hard work, never been scared of physical labor. That's never been an issue. It was brought up. I was brought up in the old school mentality of if you work, earn money, everything will be fine. Which to a degree, it. It is right in a sense, but very minimal. It. It plays. It plays a part, but it doesn't play the soul part. And I was missing the other things in it. So I used. I was looking for different ways of how I could change these things. I first went through business coaching, realized that that wasn't, you know, the business was not too bad, it was going all right. But then I thought, no, the problem here is actually me. I've got to try and change myself.
This is.
This is the issue. So I was. When I. When I decided I was open for that, you start searching on your phone as you do social media, all different things. HBF come up, resonated with me. A post, actually, that you put on yourself. It was a while ago now, Al, I've been with HBF for 13 months now. I've done. I've done one year. I've just resigned for another year. And I was very. When I first come on board through the onboarding process, I was like, it wasn't skeptical. It was. I sort of didn't really know what to expect. I come on board and I thought it took me about three months to find me feet in doing these things with the diet and all the processes that we have in there. And once I sort of started doing one thing, made it a habit. Go on to the next. Go on to the next. I've been honest to myself. I didn't know where I was going to go or how far I could have gone with it. So it was sort of, it was a, a very trying time because of how unsure I was about it. And I thought, well, you know, fuck it, I've paid the money for this thing, I've got to commit to this. Because I'm not somebody who, if I sign up to something or shake a bloke's hand, I stand behind it and I follow it through. So I've gone, I'm gonna, I'm gonna follow this through, see where it takes me and I'll hook in. So that's exactly what I did. And slowly but surely after about six month period, I started seeing some results. Even me wife and the whole, what you referred to before al, with the $500,000 thing, I never, I never was in this for a business point of view. I was in this for myself. And as I said in a reflection I'd done there, it smacked me in the head one day when I had a meeting with the accountant because I was getting, I was, I was kicking goals, those small goals, but their goals all the same. Personally, you know, with my fitness, my health, my diet, you know, and I've had, I've had a major back surgery, I've got two prosthetic discs and I've got a, a cage based fusion on me, on my lower vertebrae, I've had a fractured coccyx, you know, so I always had drama with, with my butt, my lower back, leg pain, sciatic nerve that went on for 10 years. Just with the physical job that we've got, you know, I leaned on that a bit as an excuse. So, you know, the mentality was, I work hard enough at work, you know, I don't need to go to the gym and all this type of thing. But the difference that those things made built energy in me that I didn't realize and the changing of me mentally too along the way with following these steps and the guidance from within HPF and learning different things from the coaches and the guests that we have in there, enabled me then to change not only your outlook, but hold that mirror up in front of yourself and go, there's only one fucking person here that you can blame for anything. Because all the choices that are made in your life are made by you and you're accountable for them. So anything that's happened, whether it's good, bad, ugly, essentially it does come back to you. It doesn't, it's not evolved, it's not made up or no one else has purposely done this shit to you. It's from a choice that you've made. It's like regret. I don't believe that anybody is entitled to have regret because they made that choice prior to that. So if they're regretting not doing something or they're regretting I should never have done that, well, they made the poor decision at that point in time. So you don't have the right to say I regretted that because it's not a thing. It's not, you know, so going back to the journey, you know, just recently I mentioned the 500,000. Well, that's one of the, the goal posts that I'd kicked, that I didn't even know that was going to be a thing, so to speak. It, it. Because I've changed myself. The things and things that I've learned, I've been able to channel and use to better me as a person, to engage with other people better has worked tenfold in business, self and family. You know, like Megan, my wife, she's, she got, she's, she got inspiration and she did admit this the other day. She's, she's even started coming down and going to the gym. She goes on walks and hikes now. Like, know these, these are all silent things. I never ever went on and said I'm doing this to anybody and everybody. Because to me it's not about that. It's about knuckle in, get it done. And if you're doing it right and you're, you're hooking in and actually showing that you are changing, people are going to notice that regardless. It's. Yeah, it's been a hectic, emotional, physical journey, which has been good. It was a mental thing for me. When I come into hbf, I suffered big from anxiety, massive, massive anxiety. I was brought up old school, you know, both my parents, my father mainly, he was a big contributor to a lot of these things. But hey, let's face it, I love my father and my parents to death, but they, they were doing what they could do best with what they had at that point in time. You know, it's, I don't, you know, up until now I did everything that I did was resentment from a lot of that. But once again, you can't blame anyone else but yourself. You know, you've got to make the change to break the cycle, to do that, to show these kids or our kids or my kids, like young Clancy, my son, the better ways. You know, like, it's because it is, it's Generational.
It's.
It's you. You've got to. There's only one person that can break it, and it's you.
100. Agreed. You've. You've hit the nail on the mark with a few things there, Nath. Here's the hardest part for a lot of people to understand. We've all been victims of trauma. We've all experienced trauma in our life. But there's a difference between being a victim of a traumatic experience or experiences or having a victim mentality. That's exactly what you're saying, Nath. Okay, cool. You've been hard. Done by. I've been hard, but done by. This is your list. This is my list. Okay, well, what are we actually going to do about it? Are you going to do something about it? Which takes me to probably the earlier point I wrote down here where you're speaking about just working your way out of it. You know, I'll be right. I'll just triple down on my business. And then having that revelation that, hey, if it is to be, it's up to me. That's what most people don't realize. When it comes to business, you're always going to be the biggest bottleneck. Don't blame your employees. You fucking hired them. Don't blame your clients. You chose them. Don't blame the product or the conditions or the environment. You started a gym that got shut down through Covid and all the shit that happened. You assumed that that would never happen. Where people wouldn't be allowed to go to your gym, Right? Crazy, right? What are the odds? Well, seems like it would never happen, but it happened. All these variables. The building game. You're in the building game, man. Doing well, but got a lot of builders and guys in the trade on the inside. That's been a fucking nightmare with supply chain issues and just everything, man delays access. So what are you going to do about it? You're the one who has to be flexible and malleable and adjust and change. And the only way that can happen, Nath, is by leveling yourself up, man. And the funniest part is what you mentioned then about Megan starting to do some exercise and other things. It's why as men, we are here to lead. And the greatest form of communication and leadership together is example. Because women are so emotionally volatile. Why? Because they regulate their emotions 10 times more than we do. It's just how they're wired. This is not an opinion. Even ladies watching this, they know that. Men, you know that. Yeah, it's been proven this is neuroscience, man. One of our experts, Nath Wallace on the inside, talks about this. They regulate their emotions a lot more than we do, and children are a lot more emotionally volatile. Why? We'll have a look at all the changes they go through on their hormones throughout the first 20 odd years of their life. So it's up to us to lead by example. Then guess what? It becomes an attractive thing where they follow suit. But you know what I love most, man, is because obviously I could be pretty hard with the message and direct, but I remember saying that years ago in some of the podcasts. You're so true. You're so right. It's so true about regret. It's such a weird concept, isn't it? Like, hang on a minute. What right do you have to regress something? You fucking chose it. You may not have assessed all the possible variables, and what you chose included other people you don't have full control over, but it's impossible for that experience to happen without you actually being inside that experience. And you have no right to regret things you have no control over. You know? Oh, it's crazy. It was a. There's a fire and the house got burnt down and I knew I shouldn't have gone to work today. How the fuck did you know? How would you know? You know, and that's tough because it's like, oh, you know, my child is, you know, they're okay, but they got hit by a car and they broke their leg. And I shouldn't have gone shopping. I should have gone in the afternoon. No, no, you can't. You can't regret that. You don't have control over that. Things you do have control over, though. Yeah, it's so true, man. What? Right? You made the choice. That's the craziest part with what you mentioned about shaking hands. Seems like a rare thing in today's world, Nathan, that. That we honor and uphold our word. But for a man, anyway, because we've got it hard in a different way to women, just like they've got a hard and different way to us. But as a man in this life, mate, all you have is your fucking name and your word. And that becomes your honor and your legacy. That's all we have, man. That's all we have in this world. Your fucking name and your word, both of which seem irrelevant. Today's day and age. People go around wearing footy jerseys. People were. It's funny. And no judgment. I know. We've got guys who love the footy and other things and. Look, I Enjoyed elements of sport. But I gotta tell you, man, I. I just cannot. There's no way I can wear another man's last name on my back. That just doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, a bit like me making high performance father shirts with Ranieri on the back. And you boys all work. What the, man? You're a man, you're a leader. You don't need to wear anyway. That'. That's tongue in cheek shit. Stirring. Maybe some of the boys on the inside who do like wearing, you know, I mean, I love Michael Jordan, I've got Air Jordans, but I'll never wear his name on my back anyway. Yeah, very interesting, man. Talk to us, mate. Is that a common thing you see, though, in the world, Nath? Because obviously the industry you're in, working predominantly with men, men with lots of pump, lots of pride, lots of front, but the word seems to be missing. And I don't know, man, like, in terms of the dynamic. Yeah, the old school didn't really need to have the emotional skill set around marriages like we need today because of social media and all the. That is just so convoluted that it influences our wives and children. So the demands are higher. The game's changed as a father as opposed to the old days with 10 kids just working on a farm and, you know, 20 people. Tell me, though, man, what are you seeing? What's the common pattern you're seeing across the board when it comes to standards as a man and a father in the modern world? And some of the challenges and pain points you can see with that when you're not producing the way that you are right now.
A big one in today's younger men, I think, is. And we see this a bit on job sites and stuff. You go back to the handshake thing that we were talking about. There's a sense of entitlement there, which to me comes. Comes from. From nowhere or no reason. Like, they, they live their life, like you say, through social media. So it ingrains in their brain a story to think that they are capable of doing something and they can do something that physically. They have not done that action to show that they are capable or physically able to do it, but yet they think they're entitled to have the recognition that they can do it. Which is. Which is a massive thing that, that I see. And, and I suppose everyone's willing to point the finger, but they don't point the finger in the mirror is. Is the other thing. It. It's, you know, your first A lot of. A lot of blokes, first reaction is, hey, and I was guilty of it. I'm not saying I wasn't. I was definitely guilty of it. This is one of the main things that I came in here for. But it was in certain parts of my life that I was guilty of it. It's until you can actually, until something clicks inside you, or what I reckon it is is until they get to a point in their life where they have hurt enough to actually have a realization that I'm the problem here. How am I going to go about changing this? I'm actually to blame. It's not everybody else's fault. It's not his fault I lost my job. It's not his fault that this has happened and so on and so forth. I don't know, I suppose I can look back on it now and see this easy. Whereas prior to, prior to hbf.
You.
Know, five years prior, two years prior, I had some of them attributes, but it took, it took to feel some pain before you could actually go, well, there ain't no easy way out here. This is. You got to knuckle down, get in the trench and have a crack. It's, it's. And I don't know how you get that message a lot across to a lot of them. And. And that's why I keep saying, I think it's that they haven't heard enough.
Yeah, yeah, possibly, man. Like, it's. I mean, for those watching or listening to this now, maybe this is the final rep that you need. But let me position it this way, with everything Nathan just said, even if it is someone else's fault. Cool. How's that working out for you? Like, so what? How's that helping you? I think, I think what's important. I used people used to around me. I just got a different circle like now than what I used to. But people around me used to think that I was passionate. And I guess I am. I just think that's a standard and normal for me. But like, they used to think I was extreme with some of the perspectives or just chill or just relax. But I'm like, no. Like how is what you construct inside of your head? So remember, boys, your thinking, which goes faster than the speed of light, is speaking their words like it's internal dialogue. Your words, internal and external is the exact mechanism. This is proven. That is training and developing your entire reality through, aka your brain, your entire world, man. So cool. It's their fault. They did wrong by me. This happened. That. How's that working out for you? So ask yourself every time when you find yourself with a statement, not a question, because questions evoke thought, but a statement or a processing or a perspective or a belief system, just ask that question. How does that help me move forward?
What?
I've been burnt by this person, so I know to choose better next time because it was their fault and their bad. How the fuck does that help you? You're going to come in five years time. It's a completely different year. It's going to obviously be a different person, it's going to be a different situation. It could be a different business or a different relationship or different conditions or a different agreement. Like that doesn't make sense. Like I learned from the past, because they're. But that was that person. I've been burnt in business several times, Nathan. Guess what? I still dive into business and have business partners. It's not the same people. Like, how does it help you? Like you've collected some information. They're a blame, they're at fault. Cool. How's that helping you? You just, you're. You're powerless. You're removing your power. Hopefully this is the last time the men need to hear it. You don't understand, man. Right or wrong doesn't fucking matter. The sun's gonna rise, it's gonna set. How is how you're operating right now gonna move you forward? Is it gonna move you forward? Yes or no? Now look, we're not robots, man. I get it. You shouldn't set a five minute rule and process and so on and so forth. But seriously, man, like, we're fucking men. Let the women dive into unpacking their emotional baggage for fucking years. We've all had trauma, we've all gone through it. It's not that it's not a practice that can't be used. We use things like emotional release therapy and other stuff on the inside with hpf. But is that the best roi? Or instead of saying that I've got depression, I'm feeling depressed. But if I outwork the feeling of depressed by getting up early, training the fucking house down, eating well, building businesses or making money or providing service to the marketplace, connecting with my family, doing what I said I would do, ticking the fucking boxes of my time to have you done all of those first, because that's probably the fastest and easiest way that you have complete control over, which will remove the current limitations that you have. And the answer, 99.9% of the time, Nath, is no, they haven't. Fair statement. Do you agree? What are your thoughts?
Yeah, exactly. I think they don't know how to get out of their own way. It's. Which is, which is where I was at at one point in time because let's face it, you want everything fixed straight away. You know, it's, it's what HPF does, is breaks it down. Literally breaks it down, breaks it down into steps. Like keyboard on a computer. You start at the left hand side and you, you push every button once you've succeeded along the way till you get down to the bottom. Some might move through it quicker than others, but as long as you're doing that each time and you're not dropping the ball on that one to get the other one, it's, it works. But it's. Yeah, it's people having to get out of their own way, you know, to see that that's what's got to happen. And a lot of people don't like to do the work either, let's be honest.
And they focus too much on the outcomes. Right. So when we look at this, let's. Absolutely. That's, that's, you know, that's why they focus so much on the outcomes. They don't want to do the work. And it's like the work's way easier because it charges you up, man. Like being up since 3am this morning, it's not easy, Nath. But I'm actually more charged through engaging in this exchange with you and sharing it like lifts. Take action, Take the actions that you can control and keep moving forward. People focus too much on the outcomes, so they're in fantasy land. They're daydreaming or good or bad, fear or fantasy. They're focusing on the outcome. 225 pull ups in 48 minutes. That's one sentence. That's one line. That's a five second realization as you're lowering yourself from the 225th rep. It's nothing, Nathan. It's nothing, man. 44 CrossFit competitions. I won my last one, 2018, and then retired. It was nothing, bro. I went up on the podium for 10 seconds and people clapped. And then I got off and I jumped in the car and drove home. What led to you being able to do 225 pull ups in 48 minutes?
It was more than just at sand, to be honest. First off, when you done it al that a while ago, I was. My first thoughts were when you said, you're going to do 500 pull ups. I was like, he's mad. Anyway, we watched I watched the live and I'm thinking as I'm watching it, we're at work actually, believe it or not. And I had my phone sitting up on the thing and one of my boys, that works for me, leading hand, Jimmy, I said, here, watch this. So we're watching it in the corner and it went on for an hour and a half or whatever it was that it took to do. And we'd go and do a bit and we'd come back and he's. And I'm going, oh, he's nearly halfway. And then we go to the other and he's like. And Jimmy's sort of. He's flabbergasted. He's just going to. That's insane. And then I'm thinking to myself, physically, yeah, that, that is very, very hard to do. But mentally I'm going, that was what more clicked with me. I'm going, that, that mentally is huge because I could see the fatigue setting in you and I'm thinking, you know, you could have a strong head game for that. Your body can put up with a fair bit of punishment, but your mind normally gives in before your body does. And that's what I'm going, yeah, right here. So then that played on me then, and I'm thinking, maybe I'll try and do something like that. And I thought, well, I'll just, I'll just try with the, with the pull ups. So it was, you know, I considered myself a fairly fit sort of bloke. I've never been overweight or anything, but I couldn't do one at all. So then I started watching, you know, videos and different things on what muscles, muscles to strengthen and all this type of stuff. As I worked on that with weights and things. And then I'm like, yeah, I was doing. Then I've done one, then I'll do five and I'd do 10 straight up. Then I'd have a blow, 30 seconds or a minute and I'd do one again. And this went on for probably two months. And then I was like, it. I'm just going to go down in there today in the shed and see how many I can do in half an hour. And it was a huge mental game. I think I got 115 the first time I tried it in 38 minutes. And I've only had from that day I got that. I've had four weeks, five weeks. I'll give myself seven days break roughly between each, each time, because as you know, man, every part of your body's sore after it pretty well from your torso up. And it wasn't a huge mind game then because I'm like, I don't care how much it hurts, I'm going to get to. And then I posted a post on, on in the gladiator squad for accountability. I said, I'm going to get 200 after I done that first hundred in under an hour before Christmas. And anyway, it's not even December, but I pumped the 200 out two weeks ago. And then the last draw I had, I got 225. So now Benny's into me going, you need to go for 500. So I'm like, right, so I'm going to try and set me task now. This week will be 250. I don't know if I'm going to get him in under the hour, but I'm going to go me hardest. And then before Christmas I'm going to try and aim for 300 in an hour and a half. And if I beat that, I'll get that. I'm not going to stop there. It's just going to keep going and go and go. Like I'm not the kind of person that if I get to that point, whether it's in business, self, family, if I get to a target I've set, yeah, I've ticked it right now. Let's set another one better. So that was as, as, as, as minimal as it sounds. Doing 200 chin ups. It's, it was more than just the physical aspect of it for me. Like it way outweighed the physical, physical side of it. And that, that was the reason I, I took it on.
Yeah. And in asking you, hey, that I didn't know you couldn't do. I didn't know you couldn't do one. That's insane, man. Can you guys see that? And, and listen to what Nathan's just shared now. Like you so, and that's the point. Like what I'm asking, how did you do it? You rattle off dozens of little micro things there. Dozens and dozens and dozens. Like think about it now. Think about everything you, you just spoke about then watching it with Jimmy, right? So Jimmy knows that you've been exposed to seeing something that you're a part of. So straight away, right, as a primal man, part of your tribe, with work, it's like, okay, Jimmy, seeing a strong man. You're seeing me see a strong man. I was a big boy too, man. 116. That was brutal. I'm keen to do it again, but I just. And I will because I'M in even better shape. But Jimmy saw that. You showed him that. You made a decision. You tried one. You did weights, you did all. All those little tiny things. Let's isolate them. Nathan, all those. Because it would have been hundreds. You just gave us a good. But overview nonetheless. A good overview. But all those little things isolated on their own. Pretty easy to do, no?
Yeah, if you break it down.
Break it down. Like, think about it. I just said I just need to get some weights and do some arm curls today. I just need to do one pull up. Okay, tell me about the whole journey. Like today I ate bacon and eggs instead of, you know, nothing. And. And then having a big bowl of cereal or just drinking coke all day. Like, these decisions are easy, man. But. But look at it. Not even a pull up to 225. That's impossible.
Some people would think so.
Well, this is. Well, this is. Well, this is the power of the tribe. Right? You can do it, like you said, but it's the mind that stops. It's why I love David Goggins, man. Do I want all the other areas of his life? Absolutely not. Do I love that one element? Because symbolically, that mentality is there on human performance and achievement, despite what the mind tells you. It's why he's ace. But this is the power of the tribe. There is no way that you're going to do 300 before the end of the year. You've got nearly 12 weeks, man. You're going to do 500. That's. Oh, you're out. Here's your skin in the game. All right, everyone can see and hear this. Nath has to do 500 or he's out of hpf. Oh, what's going on here? It's a cult. Hey, fellas, you can't spell culture without cult. But no, seriously, man, are your. Your run rate and your trajectory. Nath, your goal should be 500. This is why. Because you've already set an extremely achievable goal. Let's be honest, 225 to 300. The time's good, right? Deadlines. They drive desire. They do drive desire and they drive decisions, but they also drive purpose. Look, let's be honest, man. You could do 500 pull ups if you gave yourself 10 hours today, right?
That's right.
What's that? You know, if you did one, you did one a minute, 60 an hour, eight hours, you're there. Where's the significance, though?
But it's not hard enough.
You're chasing. Exactly, exactly. You're chasing the Time. The destination is the journey. The destination itself. The journey is the destination, boys. It never ends. Our high performance father's on the inside. Got money, got my body, got my family. It doesn't matter. It never ends. Don't stop. Got a 70 year old client, I'm gonna bring him on. Lamborghinis, horses, properties, six pack ABS. He's 70, 72, 73. The guy's a fucking high performance grandfather. Well, giving him a ribbing, saying, hey Steve, for your 70th birthday, man, you ready to wrap up? What's. Because when I ran the gym back in the day and I kept in touch with him and have been after. So actually now I would have been out of the gyms by then. What's. What's the plan, man? Ready for retirement? Just this is a dude who has like the original think and grow rich book, right? Yeah, yeah, lent it to me. It's like fucking 80 years old and falling apart. In fact, I think that my kids destroyed it. I hope Steve's not listening to this and oh, mate. Setting my big targets for the next 10 years. I was like, can I tell you a secret, Al? Can I let you in on something? This is going to be really attractive, by the way, for those watching and listening to this, who are high performers at heart. You're like, yeah man, I fucking get it. He's like, how can I tell you secret? I'm like, yeah, yeah. Steve Shru. He's like, it never ends, mate. Never ends. When you realize that the concern, the anxiety, the looking in, I need to be better, I need better shape. I've got to drive business and drive these decisions and do this and then provide and lead. Sometimes it's good. Basically it's like the mentality and your approach that despite all the feelings, all the ups and downs, everything that happens, you fucking do it anyway. And you perform and produce. I'm paraphrasing him here, but he's like, it never ends. But that's why you win, that's why you're a winner and successful. If I drop right now, doesn't matter what the next 10 years looks like. I've got everything that I so called need. I've failed in capitalizing on the last 10 years of my life and doing the best I absolutely could. I was like, you know what fellas? When he hit me with that, I was like, it was soul crushing because of the version of who I was at the time. Like, I just sunk back and I was like, didn't show him that it's like, oh, cool, man. But inside I was like, why? Because of the. The adversity is like, wow, he's the Great Wall of China. I now need to climb with my hands. But it was liberating at the same time too, because Steve had shown that he could do it. He's not the only man in the world, but this is the power of the environment and the tribe, Nath, because you doing those pull ups has inspired me to really follow through and be like, well, I need to fucking push for a thousand. Not to be better than Nathan, but because of the standards we uphold, to just stretch for something that seems impossible. Imagine that, man. Let's feature, play this a little bit. Future pace is you watch me do it. That's crazy. The mentality is insane. You couldn't even do one pull up and in less than six months, you do 500. Even if it takes you three hours, doesn't matter, you do 500. That's the magic. Every day I get up. My pool's getting warm now, but in winter, every day, Nath, I get up, jump in the pool, cold as fuck, nerves tingling, or ice baths. And I get up and I do it because I can. And I'll be in there in the pool. Cold comfort. I'm the man. I'm tough. I can do this. I can do anything. This is what people don't get. Ice baths are the reason why I'm in phenomenal shape. Doing a pull up in the gym is the reason why your business made half a million dollars, right? Getting up at 5 o'. Clock. Yeah. Instead of 6 o'. Clock. That's the reason why you saved your marriage. Guys don't get it, man. They don't get it. It's who you are. It's an identity. It's who you fucking become. Me jumping in that pool every day is the reason why I will stack the business and continue to build multiple businesses in my life and become ultra successful. What do you mean, Al? That doesn't make sense. You're in a fucking cold pool and you're making a huge amount of money. No, you don't get it. It's the same thing. It's who you are, man. It's how you carry yourself.
Resilience and consistency. See, like that you sound about jumping in the pool. It's that. It's in your brain. It's that thought that, that three seconds, literally that thought that comes into your brain and says, that pool's cold. I don't really want to jump in. Well, you shouldn't Even you should be already in there and that friends in here.
It's why you got. It's why I love the pool more than the shower. You can cheat, turn on, off. Once you're in, you're in, man. You're all in. That's right, boys. Like, I get that as well. Elite athlete blew up to 122 kilos through winter. It's horrendous. Elite athlete. What does that mean for everyone else who lets the standard slip because it never ends? And how you. How are you finding hpf man in the journey and obviously you shared some of your results, but what is it? What does this mean to you, man? You know, being in an environment like this and. And really well, you're the embodiment of it now, right? And one of the leaders. But how are you finding man? What does this mean to you?
I had mixed emotions about it early in the piece. I've got a lot more clarity on it now. It was. I was only saying to Megan or two, three nights ago. About, you know, reflecting on things and making it so other people can see it. And I never was one big for that. But my mentality on it is now, after being in there and improving as much as I have, is that, for instance, what we're doing here now, if one person can see this and doesn't necessarily have the courage to come forth and jump in straight away, but it plays on their mind enough and it's like a flea in their ear to then maybe one day, yeah, they make the decision or it helps them in any way possible is what I'm. Is what I'm about. That's why I'm here now. I think there's a lot of mates and stuff that I've got or people that I know that if I mentioned this to them now, it would fall on deaf ears because they're simply not ready. So hpf, to me, having the courage to jump into it totally changes that, changes the whole perspective. Initially, you're in there to help yourself. Once you're helping yourself and you're getting yourself to a point where you get the clarity and you can reflect on stuff and take a deep dive into yourself and off all the bullshit and the stories out of your head, you go. You just start thinking. You go, such and such would do great with this. Like, they need to really, you know, it's just. It's being able to have something like this to help men change who they are and not blame the position that they're in to other people. Like a Prime example was I was reflecting back on my relationship with my wife. And I'm thinking, this is, and this is exactly what, what it was like. I used to go, oh, she never used to treat me and she never used to do that. She never used to do this to me. We used to do this all the time. We don't do that. You know, same thing I was, I was turning it around under her when the reality was I was the person that was changing or that had changed from initially when we first were together 13 year ago. And until you can realize that, it won't change like an HBF makes. It brings that clarity, helps you look inside yourself, because let's face it, some blokes don't know it's a forbidden thing to show emotion, to share stuff. You know, we're all mighty matey, yeah, pat each other on the back and it's generally on the piss and whatever else. But until you change that to a different perspective to look with inside yourself, you're not going to get that clarity. You're not gonna, you're not gonna be able to stand in front of the mirror and point at it. Because if, if you can, if you can blame yourself and then from that, reflect on it and change who you are, taking that into consideration and using that for leverage to go, okay, I'm up there. Yep, all well and good. Let's not do that again. Let's make another decision or a better decision so that, that doesn't happen again. And that's what it's about, you know, not, not like even the gym and everything like that. Like that 2 seconds I was talking about in your head when you. And we all still do it. Before you jump in that pool, there's still that little voice in your head that goes, oh, that's too cold. It's like when you go to get home from work and you're absolutely rooted after pouring concrete all day long. And then I go, no, I've got to get in that gym. Then you go up, you look at the pants and the HBO shirt and I'm like, put it on. Go back down there.
Do it.
You just do it. You do it. You got it. Like you were saying, you do what you're required, not what you think you have to do. You know, you're not going to get better physically, mentally, emotionally by just staying in the comfort zone. I'm a little tired today. We've had a big day today. We can do that tomorrow. There's always tomorrow. But you've wasted the time you're at now and what was prior to that, where you could have had a benefit to build to where you are now, like every day should be being used as a stepping stone to better yourself. People think they've got all this time, and when you get clarity on, you look at it, you don't have all time. You don't. You literally don't. I'm 41 today, funnily enough. So nine years. Nine years time. I look at it now, my son's going to be 18. He won't be living with me. He'll be gone. He'll be doing his own thing. He's eight year old. He won't be here in nine years. Nine years will go like that. So when he's 18, then. Then do I get to look back and go, I should have done this? No, you don't. You don't get to. You don't get to have that choice. The choices you got to make are now, like right now.
Nine summers, man. That's all you have. Nine summers and he's out.
Exactly. And he's the eldest, you know, Then my daughter will be following behind. Only four years later.
It's a great perspective, man. So true. You may have tomorrow, but you'll never have today again.
No, never. It's gone.
The thing is, guys, like, we're not here to create robots, so you spot on with the whole emotional stuff. Nice. Do we need to be more emotionally skilled than our fathers 100 years ago? Yes, of course. The landscape keeps changing. Are there things that we do that they can't do? Yes. Adaptability, saturation, exposure. Imagine just fast forwarding someone from 100 years ago into today's world. The pure overwhelm of what they would be exposed to in a single day through technology, social media. There's no way they could handle that. So the point of this, though, is leverage your emotions, man. Don't use them as a fucking security blanket just to feel warm. Just justify your bullshit for a few hours or a few days or a few weeks or a few months or a few years that then disappear and you never get back. Leverage your emotions for greater good, not for justifying the reasons why you're not being good enough and not doing what's required because, and I said this yesterday with Adam, our CEO, Nath, we're talking about high standards. I was like, what is high standards? It doesn't make sense. It doesn't exist. High standards compared to what? It's all subjective. What we should be saying is more if adjectives, the Word, but more production based words like higher standards, you know, maybe that could be the outcome. Right? High performance father. But the reason why it's high performance father is because we're always looking to be higher in how we operate every single day, in everything we do. Proactive words, action driven words and terminology. Because without that, man, you just lose. How are you feeling, Nathan? How do you feel about yourself, man? Nathan's looking in the mirror now. Be different.
Good, mate.
Respect.
It was. I think every bloke has a bit of self esteem issues, some deeper than others. I had a little bit of it, a lot of it probably. And my biggest thing is when, say, for instance, you look at yourself in the mirror, not only from a physical point of view or how fit you think you look, how fit you are looking, I should say, but mentally, you know, you got to be mentally strong enough. So when you look in there, you go, okay, I'm going to accept that I am, I am better, I am fitter, I am more ripped than I was when I come in. Not just, oh, I could be better. I could be, yeah, still pretty, you know, with where I'm looking, you can't and you can't, you can't have that. And you won't get that. If, if you're looking at yourself like that, you're not gonna, you're not going to be a higher performer than what you were yesterday. Like high to me, doesn't have a limit.
Eyes.
Oh, it's endless highs universe. You can't, you don't just get to high then go again, like always keep going. It's not, you know what I mean? It's like we were saying. So if you can say, yeah, I've improved on what I was last week or yesterday, then the following week you do it again. I've improved on what I was from last week or yesterday. And if you can aim to do that mentally and physically, you win, you win. And you can't not win. There's no way that you can not win through poor choices. Maybe, but you still, everyone has a little bit of a, a lag at one point, but then you're going to step back from that easier than you would have last time or prior to that two months ago, three months ago. Because you've built that resilience, you've built that strength, you've built that, that motor inside you to deal with that.
An undeniable proof that you're a winner. Like, you've earned the right to reflect in a positive light, man, because you've actually done something about it. So you're right. There are a lot of men who give themselves flack, even when they are successful. But if you've done nothing, what do you expect when you look in the mirror? Whereas Nathan can look and be like. Like, I don't have. My abs are popping through now nicely, which is good, but I. I don't have a six pack and I'm getting close, but it's like, what am I gonna focus on? I'm gonna focus on the 14 to 15 kilos I've lost and the 2, 3 kilos of muscle I've put back on. It all takes time. But in the same year, man, same year. Like, it was only a quarter, maybe 15 weeks. Exact same year. So much change. But you've earned the right to look in the mirror and similarly yourself, man. I'll look at the mirror and be like, yeah, no, I have done that. I'll accept that I've created great results. But also, I can do more. What can I do? What's possible? What awaits me today? What am I going to claim today? What am I going to do? And then there's times when you. You just. You like the. The silent and powerful lion just looking into your eyes in the mirror. And other times you're like, fuck, yeah. Come on, Al. Let's go. Let's lift. But either way, you've earned the right to come from a position of power. I've really enjoyed this. Nathan has been awesome, man. I hope you always have gotten some great value out of it too, watching or listening on the podcast. Um, yeah, it's been epic, Nath. Looking forward to the. The next 12 months ahead, mate together and final thoughts, man. As we wrap this up, any final thoughts, shares, takeaways, or. Or even advice for someone else or. Yeah, we'll finish on a note with. With your thoughts, man.
I suppose for anyone, whether at a point in time in their life where they are hurting, Don't give up. Put, put. Put your hand up for help, like, because what's the. What's. What's the. What's the alternative? What's the flip side to that? Like, really, really, what is it like? Truthfully, all the stories I fed of your head, what is the flip side to not getting help? You know, there isn't. It's obvious. It's obvious you're going to stay in the rut or are you going to enjoy the rest of it and better yourself? That's my biggest takeaway, especially for me.
That stuff, man. So obvious isn't it? It's sad. It's. It's a bit sad. So many people just choose that path. Crazy. Crazy. Awesome finish though, man. Couldn't agree more. Thanks again, Nate for joining us. Thank you guys for jumping on and either watching this live or catching up on the podcast episode. Huge Nuggets. I strongly urge you to listen to this again. Make some notes, key takeaways, set some goals, make them wild, make them crazy, make them impossible through your limited belief system right now and just ask that question, what if I could pull this off? I can't even do a pull up. What if I could do 200 like Al? 115 to start with, 225. 300 by the end of the year? No fucking way. 11 weeks, man. You got 11 weeks. I'll give you some tips on some different accessory work. Lots of arm curls and bent over rows and other things. You don't have to just do pull ups. But yeah, man, like no way. 500. I can't wait to see that live in the group. Exciting times.
Well, that's the thing. That's the accountability post next.
Yes, exactly. Awesome. Good on you. Thank you, man. Have an amazing day, night, afternoon when you listen to this or watch it. And yeah, amazing episode, mate. Thank you for the shares.
Yeah, cheers guys. Thanks, Al.
Well, that wraps up another episode and just as we wind this down, I want you to just reflect and think back through some of the golden nuggets, some of the revelations, some of the sore points, points, some of the things that might have hit home with you, and then just look at ways that you can apply a different set of actions to change your position, change your circumstances, change your feelings, and change the facts. These episodes are done with your best interest at heart. And there's always something we can get from that. Maybe it's not the first time, maybe it's the second time. We've had members listen to episodes four or five times and then it finally clicks. But either way, I hope you got a lot of value out of this. And also if this is something that you really want to solidify inside of your life, repetition is the key. You've listened to it. Write down your revelations, think about them, read them, speak them, believe in the changes that you will carve out in the action plan of those revelations to create change in your life and then share that. And when you teach, you learn the second time, right? So teaching and showing this to others you love and care about is the greatest way that you can remember and make sure you consist of consistently learn and relearn what is it's true and what is it is important to you in your heart. Take care. Have an amazing day, night, weekday weekend and I'll see you for another one soon. Cheers.
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