No Balls: Crossy's World Cup squad reaction

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Hello.

I don't really know. I don't. I want to ask you if you're okay, but I know you're not.

Oh, God.

Oh, Crossy, what a day. Yesterday.

One of the worst, I reckon.

Yeah, yeah, you've. You've, you've had some bad ones too.

But I actually feel a lot now that we've started this, I actually feel quite sick in my mouth.

Oh, no.

Which is how I felt yesterday.

Well, the worst thing about yesterday was for anybody that hasn't seen or lives under a bit of context, the 50 over World cup squad came out yesterday at 11am and you haven't been selected for that 50 over World cup that got announced yesterday. And then you have to go and work as well.

Yeah. So I got a phone call at 9am yesterday from Lottie giving Me the news. And then I was like, God, it's a bit too late to pull out on comms. Literally got two comms days in this hundred. So I was like, probably won't put too well if I pull out at such short notice. So I was rang, my very, very. The pod's very good friend, Hen, to just kind of get a bit of a plan of how to tackle that day. But I think I said it on comms, actually, that I said to Wardy, I said, you can't not ask me about this because it'd just be so bizarre if I was on commentary. And then the World cup squad's been announced and I'm just sat there going, oh, a wonderful shot, Joe Root, well done. So I said to him, like, he probably has to ask me about it. And then I thought, if once it's done, it's done, I don't need to talk about it anymore. But, yeah, that was something that I probably didn't actually envisage would happen because we obviously have this podcast. We choose when we talk about stuff that's big news, that's hard news, that's stuff that you have to process. And then I was just on live TV doing it. So it's. Geez, tough day.

You didn't even have time to process the selection before you then had to.

Go to the ground and work. No, literally, that's. That's what the phone call with Hen was about, basically. And I actually had been okay up until I spoke to Hen. And then I was on the phone and Hen was like, oh, sorry, Crossy, I've just lost you. And I was like, no, no, just having a cry. No, you're not the signal. It's just me.

So when you get that news, there is. I don't even know how to describe it. It's just the worst feeling in the world.

Is. And it's. Oh, it's. It's perspective. Not perspective. That's the wrong word. It's context, isn't it? Like, in my world right now, that is big news. In everyone else's world, it's not big news. Everyone, like, the messages that I've had have been amazing, and everyone said how good they are for me, and ultimately, I'm not going playing some cricket. Like it. It's minuscule in that sense, but it's hard to take because you. I don't feel like I've done enough to deserve not being on that plane. And everyone that is a player, a current player who doesn't get selected is going to disagree with selections and going to think that they should be there. But what I'm really struggling to get my head around is it all feels like it's happened so quickly that I've just clearly fallen out of favor with lot and that's a hard bit to get my head around. If I'd had 14, 18 months of being pretty average at cricket and not performing an England shirt, then I think I'd understand it a bit more.

Yeah.

And I guess to an extent I have because I didn't have the best summer in an England shirt and I had the really tough winter and missed out a lot through the back injury. But I think leading into that I definitely didn't feel like I wouldn't be on the plane. Being in the best 11 is a different conversation. But being on the plane feels like a. It feels savage.

When. So this time last year you're like, okay, I've got 50 over World cup to work for. I remember we were speaking about in the pod, you were like, I'm gonna get fit, I'm gonna get strong. I'm thinking about that now. When did you start to think that you might not go? Or did you not think that?

Yeah, when I got dropped for that last game in the India series. Yeah, I think that was, I think, I mean, again, the, the difficulty of getting my head around how quickly it's all happened is I started that India series as vice captain opening the bowling and now I've lost my place in an ODI squad. Like I. That was a month ago.

Yeah, yeah. So they've gone three seamers, haven't they?

Four spurs with Nat being the fourth seamer. I think she said on commentary yesterday that I think they interviewed her and she said she'd be looking to be bowling in this World Cup.

Yeah, okay. So that, that, that's, that's why. Because she's back bowling. It's, it is. I know it's hard for you to get your head around. It's the same you. For me, it's like, oh, hang on a minute. You've played, you've taken 100 wickets. You know, you played your hundredth game. Like everything seemed so rosy, so great and it rained at Lords. You didn't play. You can get your head around that then you didn't play that last game. And it's like, what, what's happened?

Yeah. And like lot, lot said to me, if, if that 50 over game at Lords had been a 50 over match and wasn't rain affected, I would have played in that. So Again, it's like what's happened between me not playing in the Lord's game to then not even feeling trusted to come back for the series decided with the Durham, which was a 50 over game. So there's so much for me to get my head around and I've like, I haven't processed it. It's been just over 24 hours still, so it's, it's still really raw. And yeah, yeah, yesterday was obviously tough, but it felt like. I think this whole tournament's almost felt like I've just put a bit of a brave face on and tried to be the best version of myself for the team.

Yeah.

Because like, I know how much I love playing in this team and it's, it's like we're having a good tournament which is so helpful and I've got some amazing people around me but jeez, it's been tough. Three weeks this.

Yeah, yeah, I can. I know it has. Like you've, you've had to distract yourself from real life for three weeks and I think I've said it to you, but credit to you because you, you're playing well and you're bowling well and you're not letting what's happening in your life affect you around the girls and you performing for the Superchargers, which is some people wouldn't like, you know, whatever you've been through. Some people wouldn't even be playing in this competition. They'd be like, I just need, I just need a break. I think I just need.

That might be why I'm probably finding this a little bit tougher because I've got a lot of people messaging me like checking I'm okay and I'm not very good at lying. Like, I think probably you're actually the.

Worst at lying because if I teach you say you're okay, you'd be like, no, Yeah.

I can't say. I can't say yeah and hide it. And I don't know whether that's a good attribute, but it feels like a bad attribute at the minute because I wish I could just be like, yeah, I'm absolutely fine. But like my phone obviously blew up yesterday and we, I saw you didn't and you just said, just put your phone on, do not disturb, don't look at it. But a lot of people have messaged me and I feel pretty bad that I've not replied to it because I'm pretty good on my phone and I'm not one of those people that ignores messages. But it just feels a Bit too much for me at the minute to kind of thank people and get back to them, but I will do eventually. But, Yeah, I just.

But they're not expecting. People don't message you yesterday saying, sorry about the World cup, expecting you to.

Reply, no, I know. And, like, I'm trying to think, if she was on the other foot and I'd message someone, I wouldn't expect them to reply either. But again, like, I've got a game of cricket in 24 hours that you go out and you try and put. Like, there'll be people that watch that, that won't even realize. They won't have a clue that.

Yeah.

Which is the way that I want it to be. But we obviously have a podcast where we do our therapy quite openly and honestly to our fans. So it's. Yeah, it's just. It is. And that's. I think I said it again when Wardy asked me yesterday, like, it's what you sign up for. Like, you don't get to have those amazing highs without having these really lows. But it doesn't make the lows any easier knowing that they're gonna be there. And, like, I probably had a good indication that I wasn't going to be in this. Or, like, it would be tough to come back from being dropped in that last game to then doing enough in the hundred to get ahead of the. The bowlers that have now leapfrogged me. But it doesn't make it any easier, even if you're half expecting it. And, like, I think I've kind of had a career where I've always expected the worst. And then anything that isn't that is. Is, like, good news. But, yeah, you don't prepare yourself for it.

And there's always, always a part of you that's like, I might still go. Yeah. As much as you. As much as you prepare yourself for the worst news, there's always that part of you that's like, I might get picked here. I could still get picked. I bowled well. I've taken wickets. I've done what they've asked me to do. Like, and you prepare yourself for the bad news, which doesn't work, but you still cling on to the mic.

And I've not had that conversation with Lottie yet because obviously she delivered a pretty call to me. And then, like, I said, thanks. And there's probably a bit more detail that I need to get around. What is my expectation of if an injury does happen on my next. Or is that it? Is the door closed? I I, I know I'll probably go back and play well, finish the 100 and then go back and play the 450 over games for length. So I'll be getting some cricket under my belt and workloads and stuff. But it that I think that's almost the hardest bit is you hear the news and then someone goes down and you might be playing in three weeks time in a World cup and then everything that you feel right now is so confused and like manipulated almost because you, you've got to then spin it around and go and which I think the hundreds give me confidence in that, that even though I've been had a bit of a tough time of it, I feel like I've performed well for the team and kind of done my job and done what I've done for four years in the 100. I've not had an exceptional 100, but I've not had a bad hundred. So I feel like that's the consistent.

But that's what makes you such a great player, such a consistent player is that you deliver. You, you're so reliant.

So, yeah, we'll obviously see what happens. Things change quickly. We've always said it, haven't we? A year's a long time in sport but this, this year has been a. Do you know what? It started when you said you'll be playing, you'll be playing in that 50 over game. Do you remember? I didn't play because I rested, because I was poorly. I had the flu. It started then. It's been downhill ever since.

It's your fault, it really has.

Yeah.

And you, you knew you weren't playing and I was like, ah, Tommy, silly gosh, you're the world's best.

Been the same since.

I can only apologize for ruining your 50 over World cup two years ago.

That's all right. How are you?

I'm good, thank you. I'm good. I am well and truly on the hundred train. Like yesterday was my third consecutive day in three different cities today off, which is fantastic, means it's not off because we're doing the pod. So true. But yeah, I'm just like going from city to city and I was saying to Henry yesterday, I said the amount of cricket me and you have watched in this last month, but do you feel like you've not watched cricket? And he was like, yeah, I know what you mean. Because all the games merge into one.

Yeah, they do.

Yeah. I introduced Trent Rockets vs Manchester Originals as if they were playing the Northern superchargers like live on the BBC. I'm just a bit head mangled and then I was really anxious and felt ill yesterday and I think it was because I knew you were going for a shit time.

Sympathy anxiety.

Yeah, we had a, we had a good, good chat yesterday though. Like I woke up to a message from you and obviously came straight to where you were and I said to you in the restaurant, I was like, what should I order for food? I can't function. And you went, you've got a puncture.

That's what I heard. And it actually fits really well. I think we've both got punctures at the minute.

Yeah, we're slowly, slowly deflating.

Yeah. Deflated.

Yeah.

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You. You did also, you got to remember you had. Where are we? August, you had July off so that you could be ready for the 100. Oh yeah.

And then I've got like September off as well. So I'm got a week to go. That's it.

It's gone quick, 600, hasn't it? So fast.

Well, it's. You said to me the other day, you're like, I think it's five days too short. And I agree.

Yeah. There's just been too many double double headers. I think I've probably said that on this pod before. But. So apparently the odd years, so obviously 20, 25, they've got to condense the tournament. But then the even years they've got a bit more of a window to get it in. So what? Yeah, so next year it'll be longer. So it'll be more like a three and a half, four week tournament. So it won't feel as crushed into the schedule next year.

Crushed is a great word. How are you finding the hundred dog this year? Because in all the superchargers you're flying.

Yeah, we're doing well. We had obviously had a bit of a tough game against Manchester. I'm trying to think where.

Oh yeah, we.

Last record I was in Leeds. We'd played Birmingham, pez, we had pes. What an episode. What a woman. Got her a cinnamon swirl, by the way. Took it onto the game. Yeah. And then left it on the bus and it was a really hot day for remember. So then we got back on the bus, rock hard. So I didn't give her that. I took over breakfast the next day to say thank you though. Yeah, we're doing well. We. I would say we've not had a bad game yet, but we have. We played against Brave and we were pretty average. We. We lost the Manchester game. We felt like we won 70 of that game but the 30 we lost was quite like this. The sway. Momentumy sway. Yeah. But I think you're gonna get games like that, aren't you? Like that's. Lisa said that to us in our debrief. She said, that's tournament cricket. You're going to win some that you think you should lose and you're going to lose. You should win. So it feels like we've got two home games to finish on, which is nice though we're not hotel hopping now because our three games in five days that everyone has in the schedule Was chaos.

Oh, just different. You were Southampton, you were London, you.

We went knots to Southampton, up to lead across to Manchester, down to London. So it was a lot of bus travel. Yeah. And I don't know if you've seen, but obviously we lost Georgia Wareham to injury, so she had to head home. So I went. We went and watched some Fender in Manchester on Saturday night before the game, and I was like, I'm gonna try and get one of those massive cardboard cutouts of Wolf and see if we can just take it around for the rest of the tournament. And it all. Ordered it on Saturday. It arrived on Tuesday in London.

And I love the content that. Yeah, they're like kissing the wicket, like Spinners Union, like, such. So great for me.

Yeah. She's sat on the bus now. We've left her on there for 24 hours. She'll be all right.

She's. She's in timeout.

Yeah. Little. Little quiet time for Wolf. But, yeah, she's such a big part of this group. Actually. It was really good in. When we found out that she wasn't going to be able to finish the tournament with us. And what I think we played the game. It was the Southampton game that we played without her. And you just saw this massive hole in our team, like.

Yeah.

And we obviously didn't have the replacement player in Nick Carey then, so it was quite a big indication of how. How much she impacts in all three departments.

So many replacement players.

Savit Patel instead of Bitch Santa. Yeah, I just saw him in the hotel, actually. I was like, oh, welcome. He was commentating on his last game and now he's playing for us.

I know how weird.

There's been mad injuries in this tournament. Like, weird injuries.

Yeah, it's been. Or Trent Rockets had some awful ones.

Adam Hose. That was traumatic. Hope he's okay. We've not sent him our love. Haven't we?

No. Well, we're doing that right now.

Doing that.

Have you got anything on your sticky note?

Probably not out because I've been a bit all over the place, to be honest with you. Jack has sent us our document. We can have a quick gander on that.

I did have something else I wanted to talk about and I can't remember what it was.

Was it the game?

Which is good for a podcast.

Was it the game yesterday?

The game yesterday. Oh, my word. Crossy one. The celebrations from the other invisibles. Need to get in the bin.

What's happening there?

Yeah, absolutely. Get in the bin.

So I've got a thing. I'VE got a theory about Jordan Cox's yesterday, because he. He did the little money money sign. Yeah. But he did it to Will Jax, who was at long off, and I think they might have had a bet between. Between themselves, being like, if I hit. If I get a direct hit, you owe me. Whatever. Because he really. He stuck with the money thing. And then he was going like. He was doing the, like, cash sign to him. So I think.

And then Tom Curran did it back.

Oh. So there must be. Yeah, there's got to be something there. Like some little internal wager maybe, because otherwise I can't really justify that one.

I was on air. Maybe he clipped it up. Me going, that is vile.

Yeah. Also a lot of dancing.

So much dancing, Sam. Karen dancing. I don't hate the dancing. At least it's, like, friendly and it's, you know, shake the hips.

Yeah. Do you think he's auditioning for Strictly? Maybe. Oh, my God.

Maybe he's going on Strictly and that's his sign.

Sam, if you're listening, please can you confirm or deny whether you're going on Strictly?

If Sam's listening to this podcast, he's. He's going through a tough time.

Sam, if you listen to this podcast, you want to come on it?

Yeah. That's good. I wonder if the Coldplay man still listens to Coldplan.

Oh, I don't know if I can say this, actually. I probably can, because it's past tense now, but Coldplay man was at our Lord's game. Was he? Yeah, he was there watching.

Did you go? Did you go see it?

No, it weren't allowed. He was like, on the absolute DL.

Oh, wow.

Yeah. He didn't see anyone. He just stayed in the box and. Yeah. Watched the cricket. But I was like, so I know the security man. I was like, please say hi to Coldplay man if you see him. And then he comes into the dressing room, the security man, he's like, coldplay man says, hi, Kate. I was like, ah. And all the girls like, you know Chris Martin? I was like, no, he just listened to the podcast.

You're like, no, no, it's the Coldplay man.

It's the Coldplay man.

He doesn't have a name. I hope you still listen Coldplay man if you do. Hope your tour's going well.

He's starting Wembley soon, isn't he? So good luck with that.

We should go.

Shall we go? Should we try and go?

We should actually go.

Oh, my God, let's go. That's exactly what I need. Right now.

Yeah, let's. Let's get some things in the diary. We'll do Magic Diary.

Right.

We'll do Coldplay. Let's just have a time of it.

Yeah. All right. You can email us Crossy on noblespodcastbc.co.uk.

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Got a text and a WhatsApp number.

Now you can text us on 8.

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Nice. So make sure you get in touch with us, but we have had a couple of emails. Oh, and a few whatsapps. That's nice.

Oh, we've got a lot. Here we go.

Oh, I like the whatsapps because you get a little emoji in there.

Yes.

Andrew's put the beer. The beer emoji.

Kia has emailed. Probably not the Prime Minister.

Thanks, Jack. Put that in brackets for us.

Hi, Kate and Alex, longtime listener, first time emailer. Recently, my team bowled out the team top of the league. We were second, bottom for 76. Unfortunately, despite myself and my opening partner making the score 28 for none, when I got out, we were bowled out, but just 60 and lost the game. My question is, have you ever had a game where it looks like you're going to win and you go on to lose or vice versa? Keep up the pod and thanks for all the funny times. And I'm gonna add a bit on.

The sad times and the sad times. Loads and loads and loads of games of cricket where you think you're gonna win and you lose. And also when you think you're gonna lose and you're gonna win so many.

Like, I reckon it happens more often than it doesn't.

Yeah. Like Manchester, I was like, yeah, we're gonna win this. And then we lost it.

Yeah, it happens.

It literally happens all the time. That's savage, though, getting bowled out for 76. So they were 28 for none, chasing.

76, all out for 66.

Must have been a tough pitch that, though.

Yeah, pitches have been tough in the hundred this year, actually, haven't they?

They have if you play at Trent.

Bridge because they use it 15 times.

Everywhere else has been. All right, I think Southampton, they. They've got their little blueprint there, haven't they?

Cardiff.

Yeah, it's always tough at Cardiff, though.

Welsh, finally. I don't Know what's going on with them again this year?

No. Neither. Anyway, Andrew's WhatsApp does.

Yeah.

Hi, guys. I love the show. Can we call it a show?

Yeah.

I wanted to say a massive thanks to Alex, who my son Zach, who's 10 years old, and I met on Saturday when the Invincibles men and women beat the Fire at the oval. We couldn't believe it when we saw Alex despite being incredibly busy with media responsibilities. You came back and took the time to speak to us and give my son advice on his spin bowling and sign his cricket ball. If I'd been less of a fanboy, I would have remembered to get a selfie with the three of us. But I'm a bit old school. It was always signatures when I was a kid. Thanks again. You made a great day. Even better. Looking forward to a pint in the slugger mullet. Andrew from Littlehampton.

I remember exactly the. The two people. So they were like, alex, Alex, can we get your autograph? And I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm on air now. I'm late, but I promise to come back. And you know when you're like, okay, I've said it out loud.

I've got to go back.

But then when I went back during the men's game, the crowd was busier and I couldn't. I couldn't see them. So I'm like, looking around and there's people asking for photos and I'm like, yeah, yeah, not a problem. I'm like, but where's that little boy gone? Oh, no, I found him.

You found him? Well done. That also made me laugh because in my family, a Hampton is a slang term for a willy. And he's from Little Hampton. Hampton, yeah, we call it Hampton.

Do ya?

Yeah. Don't know why.

What do you call a flower?

Flu.

Flu.

No, we don't. We don't have a nickname for that. Don't think. What do we call it? I don't really, Mr. Hampton.

Just a Hampton.

Andrew. Andrew from Little Hampton.

Andrew's got a Little Hampton.

A Suzie. Call it a Susie.

A Susie.

A Susie, Yeah.

A Susie.

A Susie. Yeah. Suzy Bates.

Anyway, yeah, not where I thought this.

Podcast was going to be. No. Sorry, Andrew.

Georgie's email does grassy. Dear Alex and Kate, I was watching the hundred the other day and you thank. Saw the fielder take an excellent catch in the deep. She threw the ball up in celebration and then looked anxiously on as it fell back down amongst her on rushing teammates. Which got me thinking, have you ever been hit on the head by a ball.

We were talking about this just yesterday. Yeah.

Have you ever been hit on the head by a ball that has been thrown up in celebration or witnessed any other celebration related injuries? Longtime listener, first time email at Georgie.

Oh, I thought she dropped the catch. Right, I see. So she's taken the catch, she's thrown it up in celebration and then you throw it into the pile of cricketers that are running at you.

Got you, Leah to who dislocated her shoulder celebrating, didn't she?

She punched the air though, didn't she? She was batting and punched the air and dislocated it and her shoulder fell out. That does come into the game more than you think it would because when you do celebrate you do kind of like, like check where the ball's gone.

Yeah. Catherine Siver Brunt did her ankle celebrating, didn't she?

Yeah, yeah. Who else we got? This isn't about injuries at all actually. But in the game on Lords the other day, I. So when you swap over, when you swap tens, so swap ends, there's a countdown in the corner of the scoreboard, that's 50 seconds. So obviously the TV break goes to an advert and then you, you're not allowed to bowl until that 50 seconds is done. And I just bowled a set, we'd swapped over and Nick Carey was bowling. So I've run to long off and I was, I re tied my hair because I thought it got time to do it, put my hat back on and as I've turned around to put my hat's going back on, Nick Carey's running into balls. I was like, oh God, I've got my sunnies in my hand, my hat's kind of not on, my hair's all over the place. And then the ball came out to me obviously. And so I've run around, picked it up, I had my sunglasses in my hand.

Oh no.

And I've thrown it and then I was like, oh my God, that'll be five penalty runs, I think. But thankfully it was a dead ball because she'd started running in at like 20 seconds to go. So it was dead ball and we replayed it but. And then there's no footage of me doing it because it would have been in the TV break on the, on the YouTube of Sky. So I couldn't find it. But that was silly, wasn't it? I've never done anything like that.

Amy Jones did that in an international once, didn't she? Keeping, did she? She wasn't looking. Siva Brunt's running into ball. Navy's looking at points.

Yeah, but she didn't have illegal objects in her hand because that's five. That is. That would have been five penalty runs, wouldn't it? It's like anyone picking up wicket keeping gloves or catching it in your hat or something.

Yeah. Matt Henry was running into ball at Cardiff the other day and Johnny Bestow stood at short Fine talking to short.

Oh, wow. Any more celebratory injuries? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

No. But we were talking the other day about me dropping catches on my own head.

Yeah. You've dropped a few onto your own head.

Yeah. Yeah.

James emailed too. He said Great Nobles podcast with Elise. It was very good. I feel like we've not given her enough attention, but she was amazing.

Yeah, but she's going to a World cup.

So, Alex, try vegan ice cream. Delicious. Even though I bought it by mistake and it avoids your lactose intolerance. Available in many supermarkets. Keep up the excellent work, James. It's tough. It's not great when we're getting people telling you what to eat to avoid your ibs, are we?

No, no.

Maybe we share a bit too much with these people.

Well, I did tell everyone that I was a bit thrushy.

Oh, God, yeah, you are. We do. Anyway, we do share. So I'm gonna go because this is tough.

Yeah, it's been really tough.

I've not enjoyed this one. Sorry, guys.

No, I'm really proud of you though, like genuinely, because it's talking about what you've just had to.

Thanks. Email us, text us and whatever else. WhatsApp us.

Go and have a cry.

Yeah, I'm gonna go. I need some lunch, actually. I need some food and a sleep.

Go and have a cuddle with Holly.

I'm going to go shopping actually. Oh, what you going to get anything? Bye. Love you.

Bye.

Bye. He scored goals, lifted trophies and broken records along the way. There it is.

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