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In this interview, Speaker A (Karolina) recounts how she and her partner Luu invested roughly 2 million PLN to develop a pacifier product, spending about 800 k on the design alone. Over two years they have sold around 650 k units, a notable figure given that roughly 240 k children are born each year in Poland. She emphasizes the boldness of the venture, noting that most people view it as a crazy idea, yet she remains confident, rejecting the notion of a backup plan and focusing on continuous progress rather than perfection. Operationally, she runs the business without a traditional computer, handling emails, social media, and meetings via her phone. Throughout the conversation she challenges skeptics, frames risk‑taking as essential, and highlights a mindset of relentless forward motion.

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