We Spilled EVERYTHING… Money, Sales & Behind the Scenes

Hi guys, welcome back to my channel. We have a super exciting video today. We are joined with the whole TFSA team. We thought we would do a sit-down chatty Q&A, spill some gossip if we have any, and just, yeah, you can get to know us a little bit better. We work together, we talk every single day, but we have never shown you our team and kind of what we get up to behind the scenes. So let's get into it. So question number 1 is, what is the most embarrassing thing that's either happened or you've said on a sales call?

Oh, I feel like I shared this when I was doing— when we've done the YouTube video together. But mine was not knowing how to handle a woman who was trying to breastfeed her child at the same time. And I was like, you know, trying to be polite about it, but then there was just boobs all over the camera screen. It's like, maybe we can do this at a time when it's a little bit more convenient for you. So that was probably just one of those moments because, you know, you want to be respectful about it because fair enough, like, mum's got to do what a mum's got to do. But I was also not expecting I didn't need to have, you know, 2 breasts present on the screen with me the entire time.

Was it straight away when you went off?

Oh

yeah, I went on to a boob. I like to have boobs.

So maybe it's just a thing, like I saw the whole nipples, everything.

Oh yeah, there was a child hanging off of it. I'm all for that, I'm a mother too, like show respect.

Yeah, a mum's gotta do what a mum's gotta do.

The child that I saw was Maybe four. Sure. It was more controversial. There's no judgment. We don't judge. But he was an older boy. Oh, he was a lot.

Interesting. Well, that's a huge commitment.

Yeah.

Mum's got to do what a mum's got to do. She's trying to get that bag, you know. True.

What's something you used to believe about making money online that you no longer believe now you all make money online?

That it was hard.

Yeah, 100%. That's true.

Yeah, like I used to think, like when I saw it, I was like, how did— one, how do you even do that? Because I think making money online, there's so many different ways to make money online. But 2, that it was like such like hard, like a hard graph to get there. And like, yes, you have to work hard to achieve your goals, but I think once you're in the realm of like people making like $10K, $15K, $20K a month, you're like, it's actually so much easier than you think it is.

Yeah, yeah, you realise how much more you're

allowed

to do.

Before you're at any sort of mentorship, you're just like, that's unreachable for me.

Yeah,

because you've never done it.

I think also when you're so used to like the 9-to-5 world and like 3K is like crazy, then when you see people making like triple that, you're like, that— what does that even look like?

And also that you don't have to post content. Like, I think I'm so different to you girls because you love posting. I'm like the complete opposite. Yeah, yeah. To make really good money and to not have to show my face online.

Yeah, I think that's a really good one because I think a lot of people think you have to post content in order to make money online.

Yeah, especially in high-ticket sales. The amount of girls I'll have say to me on calls, oh my God, do I have to post? Yeah, same.

Yeah, yeah. And I suppose it's like, it's then really good. It's not everybody wants to have an online presence, not everybody wants to be on social media. So it's so good that you still get the ability to make money online. Yeah, yeah.

It's like you don't have to build something to then build something because everyone thinks you need Have followers and you know a big network, but actually you can.

You're finding it's the best of both worlds where you have like publicity of not doing anything on social media, but you still get to create the income that people do make.

Yeah,

yes,

sure. True. What did everyone do before sales? What was everyone's jobs? Let's go around.

I was in a job. Oh, that's crazy. I'm selling fish. I was knocking on people's doors being like, I'm a butcher and a fishmonger, and they'd be like, wait, what? Yeah, they're like, no, you're not. And I'm like, well, come and have a look then.

They loved it.

I'd like to start with a bombardment.

I'd be like, what am I going to have a look at?

I actually went so well though. There's absolutely no way. And then I did pretty well in it, but obviously it's kind of demoralizing after a while. Yeah. And then it's now break and the winter. So yeah.

I mean, that built you so well to come into this space though.

Oh, character building.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I was a nail technician and had a cleaning academy. Oh yeah. So I employed basically whole life since I started working. Yeah, so it's massive change for me.

How did this compare? So you've always worked for yourself, but now you do sales, which you obviously still work for yourself, it's just like higher leverage and you don't have like clients, let's say. So what was the difference?

Exactly. So I guess it was just constantly like trading your time for money but not having any kind of means to grow my income. Like, I was at capacity, only work so many hours, fully charge so much for my services. So Yeah, for me it was obviously more income, but also the remote aspect, complete location freedom was the main thing for me. That was why I got started.

Yeah, for sure. So you did it tied to your salon?

Literally.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I loved it and it paid me well, like, for what I needed then. But yeah, ready to scale.

I, I was just graduating university, studied law, completely different career path. And I was also working as a bartender at weddings and as a supervisor in a gym as well. So there was loads going on. And then obviously building my own, um, network marketing business alongside that too. So yeah, I think I'd been exposed to the online world through that and different opportunities, but I hadn't heard of high ticket sales until I came across Shelley on YouTube. Yeah. And then I was like, well, I already know it's possible to make money online. I had started to see the possibilities of that and I was like, I'm not being a corporate 9 to 5. water for the rest of my life. No way. So yeah, just jumped right into it.

Yeah, I was a dental nurse. What? Bougie girl. It wasn't a bougie girl. It was a hard graft. Um, yeah, so I was a dental nurse straight— no, I worked in KFC before I did dental nursing. Yeah, that was horrible. I used to like cry on the train home. But yeah, so I was a dental nurse for 4 years, and I also have a network marketing business alongside that too. So I was also very like aware of the online world, but like my network marketing business was taking more time to build, and I wanted something more remote and like the freedom outside of that, which sales like gave me. And I found through Georgia, and I was like, 100%, I'm all in, ready to go. Um, but yeah, I thought that I could scale my income through my 9 to 5, which obviously we know doesn't happen. Um, so yeah, I was working like 40+ hours a week, overtime on the weekend, trying to like build my income as much as possible. And I was like, this is so much work for such little reward. And then I found sales and I was like, absolutely.

You were like barely— you were working all those hours and like barely breaking like £2K.

Yeah.

Which is—

I was literally doing like, I was doing 40+ hours in the week, and then I would do overtime because I was like lead oral surgeon nurse. So I was like lead of a team, and I was doing—

And that was what they were paying you?

And I was doing £1.8K.

That is insane.

Wow.

Yeah, I was like, oh yeah, just my coffee already.

That's amazing.

It's insane.

You just can't get rich off of a salary though. You just can't. I think you're 100% right. It's just not possible.

But I think when you have that like work ethic of like, I know I can put the effort and the time and then like the ethic that I have into something that is going to allow me to see that reward so much in like such a better way.

Yeah.

That's when you like really see like the level of how you can like leverage.

Yeah.

That, I think.

Because you know you're meant for more.

Yeah, exactly. You have the mindset of like, I know I can work hard to achieve the things that I want to achieve. I just need the right vehicle to be able to do that.

Yeah. What about you? I was— my voice is going, but I was a natty. But I did every job under the sun, like everything. I worked in fast food. You speak English? I'll just take this. I'll sign it. I worked in fast food. Um, but I worked in retail, I worked in fast food, I worked in— as a nanny, I worked as a chalet girl. Oh, nice! Yeah, so I always knew I wanted to have a really high income, but I was just chasing the wrong thing all the time.

Yeah.

So I thought I could do it in the hospitality industry. I wanted to actually be a yacht girl.

Nice.

That was like my goal. Yeah. And then I realized I didn't want to be a yacht girl. And then I found Sales after nannying, and that's been my career ever since. So yeah, that's me.

I was the same. I was a nanny, and I've done all the jobs— coffee shop waitress, working on trade stands selling clothes, tried a business, mucked out stables for years. All the things. I would do anything. I remember I got my first job when I was like 12. I don't know about you guys, like any moment I could to make money, I would be— I'd make like £3 mocking out of day one.

Yeah, I've done that too.

Get one. Like, I need the money.

I could— did you?

I tried the paper round and then my mum did it with me. I couldn't do it. My poor mum, she's been through the journey. She was up. I was too scared I was going to get abducted. That's been here for a long time.

That's been there. Yeah, so she used to work. Yeah, I used to work at a toy museum. Oh no, it was terrifying.

Yeah, it was an actual—

it was like old Like, in the museum? Yeah, it was horrible. And I was like, if I ever see a ghost, I'm gonna quit. One of the actual—

That's the best way of speaking to me ever.

No, I was like, bitch, oh my God. If I look in the CCTV and it moves, I'm gonna cry.

Yeah, it trips me out.

So scary. What is something that happens behind the scenes at the TFSA that no one would expect?

I think how much we laugh. Like, we're always laughing. Oh, that's such a good one. Like, as such a high-performing, obviously, like, group of ladies, we have such a laugh all the time. Yeah, yeah. It's so fun. I love jumping on group, like, meetings, things like that. Yeah, you're very—

yeah, we're so woo-woo.

Yeah, we are so woo-woo. Like, people wouldn't expect it. And I think obviously, like, Shelley, she's the face of TFSA, like, the brand, your social media. I don't think people would expect behind the scenes how, like, woo-woo we are. Yeah. We get on a call, we're all like, so who's been meditating today? Like, what's the goals? Like, did you put the journal in?

The GoGirl journal.

The GoGirl journal. Yeah, the GoGirl journal.

That's the channel that makes magic happen.

You've got to be a bit woo-woo, I think.

100%. Got to use that feminine energy to the max.

Yeah, the divine feminine.

Yeah, she's as woo-woo as it gets.

Who is the most competitive and who is the biggest drama queen?

The most competitive, I feel like Ananya. I know she's not here, but I really like that.

She's like Nike. Yeah, yeah. She's like, I like this, like a beyond dog.

She's like, uh-huh, she is.

If Ananya's watching this, we miss you.

I love you.

Parents.

Yeah.

Biggest drama queen?

I don't know if we have one.

No, I don't think we have one. Shayla. And I'm sorry. I'll take it. Yeah, that's true. I don't think we—

no, because we have like loud personalities. Yeah, we do. We don't really have any Anyone that comes on is like, oh my God, guys, this was like absolutely insane.

Yeah,

yeah. I don't think anyone like twists the part or anything. No, we're very lucky.

I think we have like a really good dynamic between us.

I think we're all like very chill. Like, we're underlying, we're just like, oh yeah, chill.

Yeah, like, so we're all at a very, um, high level of consciousness, I would say. Yeah. Which makes a really big difference in terms of like team dynamics.

Yeah, but like all so different yet the same at the same time.

Yeah, we're all very different.

Yeah.

But we get on. Yeah, we all have the same values.

Yeah, that's true. And like, we would never be the type— like, I would never think that there would be anybody in the team that would be trying to cause drama or like, yeah, we're so lucky that way. I feel like I'd find that so weird. That doesn't come. And especially for a group of girls

and sales girls, it's competitive. Yeah, like, the industry is competitive. So like, the last stuff I was on I won't name any names, but the girls on that offer were so competitive, and I would hear things behind my back from the offer owner like, you do realise like she's praying for your downfall? Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, wait, what? We're just here closing deals. Yeah, like, yeah. So we're very lucky with that.

Yeah, I think we're all competitive with ourselves.

That's what I was just gonna say. Yeah, which is very much like us.

Yeah, 100%. But

yeah, and it's like It's like competitive cheerleaders.

But I think it's also because like when one of us wins, like we all win because we're all working towards the same goal as a team.

So it's like, so it's like if, if we win, then everybody wins anyway.

Because not even just in the sales industry, but I know growing up like very like girl-heavy environments, especially work environments, like I haven't had a lot of nice experiences with groups of girls in that instance. And I think that that's what's always made me, like, want to have a different experience with that. So then bring that myself. And I think it's just so nice to be like, oh no, I actually love and support every single person on this team. And I know you feel the exact same way about kids.

Yeah, I agree.

Now we should just— now we should all hug. Let's just have a big hug. There needs to be more compassion. What is something that nearly stops you starting remote sales and joining? Because by the way, guys, we haven't actually said this, but all of us here have been in the TFSA. So all the girls have, yeah, come into the TFSA and started their sales journey. So what is one thing that nearly stops you joining?

Sales bros. Really? Sales girls. Interesting. Just like the— because my perception of sales, and like, I feel like a lot of people feel the same, it was very like sleazy guys who like love like spending loads of money and just like, that was like my, always my idea of sales. So then I was like, oh, I don't think that's for me. Like, I'm not really like that. I'm very like calm.

You are.

And so I was like, I don't think that's for me. And then obviously when I found you, I was like, and Georgia had already taken your program as well, I was like, okay, this is a very different way of selling and it's more like a service-based way of selling and utilizing your Feminine energy. And I was like, okay, I actually, I prefer that because I'm not like, I don't want to be in my masculine.

Yeah, I'll be really honest, there was nothing. Like, literally nothing. I was like, there was no, there was no telling. I could have watched a million YouTube videos telling me to not get into sales and I would have been stubborn enough to get into sales. I just had decided, like, watching, like, seeing everyone else that I had looked into in terms of just social media and seeing it start to like Essentially pick up and how people were learning about the industry and then watching all of your videos. I was like, no, there is no way anyone was telling me stop. Yeah.

You're talking about what half years ago?

Oh yeah, I literally had a fear objection as well. You were like, when Chanel joins? When is she coming in? I was like, is this gonna work for me? Like, is it actually gonna work? And then you had your vacation and other things. I was always thinking, come on, you can do it.

Well, I think it was because I I don't know if pride's the right word, but being self-employed, and I loved my business, like, but I did want something different, and I wanted to move away. Like, my goal was to relocate, like, me and Jack and our family. So I think for me it was almost like a pride thing, like, no, I've got my own thing. Yeah, I don't want to step away from that. I would say that was my biggest— yeah,

yeah,

yeah— thing. But ultimately, to see a change, you have to make a change. So that was like, I just need to do it.

But it's different though. It wasn't a case of like you were letting that go because it hadn't worked. Like, it worked so well.

That's it.

It just had— it was not going to get you to the next level.

That was it. That was the hard part as well, because I loved what I did, didn't I?

Yeah, stepping away from that.

Honestly, the finances. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't think I was even making a grand a month in Georgia door. I had a 2-week holiday booked to Italy. I'd quit door-to-door. I had £200 left in my checking account, took out a credit card, lied about how much money I was making annually just to get the credit card. Fair. And— Gotta do what you gotta do. I think it's— there's a difference between being broke and poor. Yeah. Like, I was broke, so I was willing to do literally whatever it took to get that money. Yeah. Because I knew that This was the thing for me.

Yeah, so that was the same for me. I'd just come back from traveling and I think I had like, I had no, like, no, I'd rinsed my savings. I had made like £400 that month and I was like, right, I've got to do something because this is not gonna be the thing that is gonna make me the money.

I remember I was like, whatever, it's fine, I'll pay for it.

I was like, I'm gonna do whatever it takes. But it was actually the easiest money I've ever spent. Like, I didn't have a thing around it, I was just like I saw that £400 in my bank account, I was like, this is not gonna be my life.

I look back on it now and I think if I had that money like regularly available, I don't think I would have worked as hard because it gives you that internal pressure to think, shit, I've just hit absolute rock bottom. If I don't get out of this, I am screwed.

That's true.

I had to pay my credit card back. I was like, that's gonna take cash.

Yeah, yeah. So I thought it's— I couldn't recommend anyone to take out credit cards, to be honest.

Yeah, I quit my job as well before I'd even landed an offer.

Oh yeah, I moved apartments from Aberdeen to Manchester and four x my rent before I'd even doubled what I was making a month.

Yeah, I was like, this bitch is going somewhere.

Yeah, gotta do it.

Gotta put your back against the wall.

Yeah, yeah, it literally did though because I like didn't have a job, so I was like, if I don't make money, this is. This is it. Yeah. And also, I'm not going back into a 9 to 5, so I'm doing whatever it takes.

You should. Mine was just fear. I was super fearful. Shelley knows this.

You best believe I know. I was in the back of a taxi, like, voice noting. Come on, we're going to get you on board.

She's like, it's okay. I'm going to start you. Shelley's my sugar daddy. No, um, I was honestly so fearful of investing into myself. It was definitely a thing maybe of like how I valued myself, and it was definitely that leap of, God, like, this is a huge thing for me. Yeah. And I was so fearful, but I'm so glad I did it because when you invest into yourself and you make it back, that's when you're like, oh my God. It's like when you buy the laptop, when you buy the coaching and you make it back, you're like, God, that's such a good deal. Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

I hope you can understand. I'm just— yeah, yeah.

What is a first impression you had of me that's now gone now we work together, that's changed?

Go on.

I'm gonna answer this first. So I think you definitely come across super Type A, very proper. Shelley is very, very funny. Super funny. Um, the first time I think we met, we were a little bit nervous, I think. Yeah, we met. Yeah. But yeah, we recorded the King Study.

Yeah, was it?

We were like, we were like, fine, nice to meet you. It was the first time I ever met like anyone in person.

Yeah, and the elevator. Oh my God, we got into the elevator. It was like a first date. I was like, but definitely really funny and super normal. Yeah, I'd say fine, in a good way. She's just like. Yeah, what do you think?

Yeah, I agree.

Our calls are Connor's like, you're on a call with Shabell again, because our weekly calls were like, how would be us? Yeah, literally.

Yeah. Anyone else?

Um, I would say you came across like, like you said, like more Type A, and then the more we got chatting, like you were more In your feminine than I thought you were.

Thanks, that's a good one.

I can actually say that as well. Yeah, like when we met and we obviously went out for lunch afterwards and we were just chatting, I was like, oh, this is a whole other side to Shelley. Yeah, it was on the other side. And I think you really then gave me the permission to understand what it means to like obviously work in your masculine and then really understand like how to bring the feminine side of things and then like bring it together. True. Because I do work in my masculine, like I am in my masculine at work, but then outside of work I'm like a little girl.

A girly girl.

Yeah, you really are a girl.

Which is so refreshing to see because I think especially now, like, so many people think they have to be torn between one or the other, and it's like, no, you can actually bring like all of it together and just understand like some days you're gonna have— you have to utilize more one side than the other depending on what's going on. But yeah, it was definitely interesting Yeah, I love that.

Another question. What's the biggest red flag you see in someone? Wait, in someone? Gasp! Okay, no. What's the biggest red flag of the high-tech sales industry? Let's go with that one. Let's spill the tea.

Oh, that you can come in and make $10K a month in a month.

Yeah.

Like, and I think that what a lot of people don't speak about is that it actually matters who you are and the experience that you have had in life prior to coming into this industry. And not from a case of like, you're gonna land a job because of that, cuz you don't have to have experience. But if you're someone who's coming into this like super shy, you've not built up confidence, your journey's gonna take longer than somebody coming into this that has had a lot of life experience and built up a lot of confidence. And I think more people need to be aware of that and understand it because it means that they're not going to come in and then kick themselves if their journey takes a bit longer.

I agree.

And that's totally fine.

Yeah, yeah,

I agree. I think that was like a huge thing for me because when I came in, like, my confidence wasn't as like as big as maybe somebody else. And then I was like, but I haven't made 10K in like a month. And then I was like, but somebody else is like, could be so much further along in their like journey than I am, and that's okay. Yeah, like, you're still gonna get there. It's not a race. Like, you're gonna get there when you get there. Somebody else might just be further along than you are.

100%. And you would rather spend the time becoming the person that can hold that.

Yes.

Before you, like, come in, do everything you need to do, like, try and make $10K in a month, and then you're like, oh my God, where do I go from here? Like, I've not actually built myself, I've not built the systems, I don't know how to sustain it. And it's like people need to learn that it's okay to take your own time on your own journey.

I think you, you can end up losing yourself further in that too if you don't do that. Like, coming in and just building yourself alongside your— like, your income will be a byproduct of that.

For sure.

Agreed, agreed.

Love it. Okay, let's finish on a final question. Yeah, I want to make it—

It's going to be saucy. Yeah.

Spicy. Philip, you ask me?

Yeah.

Okay. What's one thing you've always wanted to know about me? Not that that sounds really self-conscious.

Everyone tell me how great I am.

You know what I mean? Like, for the channel. What do you think the channel wants from me?

What do people want?

I'm trying to think because I feel like there are some really good questions that people definitely sit behind the screen thinking, I wish I knew this about Shelley. But like, what is it? What is it? I'm an open book, guys. What do you do with your life outside of sales?

Sales.

I love work, so work is my hobby. But I also— I'm trying to think. It is. I literally

get beauty treatments. Like, I get massages, I get facials done, I get my nails done, I get my hair done. Like, I get coffees. Like, I am just a girl.

Yeah.

At the core of it, I literally will do eye patches every night just to zen, drink my green tea. I'm literally just a girl. Watch Bridgerton. I've restarted that. I love it. I love Bridgerton. It's good. Trying to think if there's anything else.

I think you're just normal, and I don't think people realize that. Yeah, yeah, that's the nicest way possible. I mean, like, I think when you do all this content, like, people might put you a bit more on a pedestal. You are a very normal person.

Yeah, I'm not my— I'm not as myself on content because I actually don't like it. Like, I'm a salesgirl. That's what I love.

Yeah, yeah, 100%.

I think just like You're very approachable. You're easy speak to, and I think students can definitely vouch for that as well.

Yeah, just down. I'm saying I hear that all the time. They just really do so much. Love it. So there's no juicy tea?

I wonder. I'm trying.

Wait, so what about when you hit your biggest month in sales? How did you actually feel? Yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah, like did you feel like you celebrated in the way you thought you would? No.

Yeah.

So I literally hardly spend any of my money. Like, I know, like, I have times where I'll be like, oh, I'll buy that bag now, or I'll buy something, but I actually hardly spend any of my money. Like, my— for what I make, I, I will probably spend like 10%, and I've always been that way. But I do have a scarcity mindset, which I'm outworking. But I also, uh, I think when I made like my biggest month in sales, I— I think I just did nothing. Didn't spend anything. Everyone, like, I feel like I want to say something fun, but I, I must— I think I booked a holiday for me and my family. I think I did that. But other than that, I've always been like a stack for cash because I have the scarcity mindset. So I'm like, I was so miserable when I was broke, like depressed, hated my life, that I was— I Can never go back there. So I think I was like, I've got to save it. Got to keep it because what if it goes? Even though I knew it won't go.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

So I wish it was something fun, but no.

I think that's really good to speak about. I think that's yeah because for a lot of people, I think they think that when you start to make money, that disappears.

Yeah.

And it's like it doesn't. You have to put in the inner work, you know, like the more that you grow because it does like you. I make money now that two years ago me thought would have like. solved all my problems.

Yeah.

And it would've made me feel the way that I wanted to feel. But it's like, it will still never feel enough if you're operating from that point. And I think it's so amazing for people to get that connection. Yeah. You know, they're like, oh my God, Shelley's still experiencing stuff like that even at the level that she's at now. So yeah.

Like I had, uh, from my closing, I had like multiple 6 figures in the bank. And I remember coming to Dubai for the first time and the business class upgrade was £700 and I was like, I can't do it. When Mum was like, Shelley, you are doing it. I shouldn't spend that much money. And we were in the airport for 15 minutes at the check-in desk, and I was like, Mum. She's like, yes, you are, Shelley. And that was like, yeah, darling.

Sometimes I feel like I need a little bit more of that. This is fun for me. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, fine.

And it is hard. You were saying once you go, once you do it, it's so difficult

to come

back from it.

It's like that thing of I, I still, I, you've got to, yeah, the balance is there and it's remembering. I say this to people all the time because I had this realization because I went from being so scarcity to then having money to opening that and then feeling like if I restricted myself from it again that it was bad and I was restricting myself from having the life I wanted.

Yeah.

But it's It's finding the balance. Yeah, finding the balance and remembering that also as well, your life is actually still happening right now. So like you, you do need to live it in the moment.

And I think it's like thinking, okay, if I make this purchase right now, am I doing it because I, this will truly add value to me? Or am I not doing it because of scarcity? Like, so for example, the multiple business class flights, you can do it because you're going on like a really nice trip, but if you're just doing it because you just think that's what you have to do now, you don't. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Finding that balance. Like, I'll go into a designer shop, I won't buy anything, I'll just look around. Yeah. And you could be like, well, is that scarcity? Because you really like that bag, but it's like being sensible with—

Oh yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah,

literally. I think that's always been a thing of like what we're linking back to what we said, like when you grow, when you build the person alongside the income, that's where like you get to that level where you're making that kind of money and then you have more of the mindset of like, okay, how am I going to hold this? How am I gonna like use my money?

Yeah, yeah, people need to know and understand what matters to them because I think a lot of people come into this industry and they fall into like this certain type of lifestyle or spending money the way they think they should be spending it. And it's like, but are you actually spending that because truly deep down it's something that you as a person value and want for your life? Because we all, we all value completely different things. Like, we all probably spend our money on so many different things, but as long as it is valuable to who we are as a person, that's all that matters.

Yeah, I think it's like, am I doing this because I want to prove my worth?

Yeah.

Or am I doing it because it genuinely like makes me feel good?

Yeah, it adds to my life.

I thought I would spend so much more money, whereas like literally I don't. Like I just, I don't, I hardly buy things. I always spend on other people, that's my big thing. Like my mum, although my mum, I was saying to Shabir, my mum wants, I was like, mum, you can come to Dubai to come next week, but you can't have business class flights. 'Cause my mum is like, she's also had a business class flight and she was like, She's now obsessed.

So like, um, she's gonna have a business.

I really think her mum should be here. She's part of the team.

She's like, darling, no. I was like, no, seriously, like, we have to have Poundland.

She's gonna watch constantly.

She's like, but she'll do a sneaky upgrade in the end. I know she will.

I think, which we love Mum, Monkey Bread. There's limits to certain things. But yeah, I think you think you're gonna buy things like the nice car. Like, I thought I'd get a Porsche. I didn't. Like, you actually realize that all the things that you think you want, that you're gonna— it's gonna make you happy, doesn't. It's actually security, how you feel about yourself. Yeah. Not to say that having money isn't great. We all love money, obviously. Yeah.

But

people in your life,

spirituality, which is what makes us happy, isn't it? Yeah. And Circumstance situation will ever be in. We all know that we have our own back. Exactly. Oh yeah, your sense of self, 100%. Love it. Independent. What's that thing? Oh, plug it. You guys think me I'm never researched reader. That's classic me. One of those girls did that. One of

our girls did that in a sales.

She was like, "Tell me this." I was like, "It's like why did?" It's okay.

Got it back. That's a wrap. Three, two, one. Bye, guys.

Bye.

Thank you, my love.