Who's Walking Who with Sir Aimezing... Ep 24

What's up, y'?

All?

What's up? What's up? Welcome back. You are tuned into power 108.9. I am Ebony Emma Pill here with Armand.

You got it wrong again. It's so Malachite. We did this.

Here we go.

Here was soul malachite. And we are conscious intercourse.

Conscious intercourse.

What's up, y'?

All?

We intertwined spiritually. We entangle ourselves so we could evolve collectively.

Yeah.

And raise the vibrations of our planet. So we consciously intercourse, you know, all that good stuff.

So, Malachi, what's going on today?

Oh, man, we evolving. Yo, did you know that we are literally sitting on a little speck in the midst of this over expansive. We're just a piece of infinite universe.

Thus just yo, can be.

I remember when I watched like Horton here's a whole. And the whole concept of the. Who's the Whoville being this little speck, you know, I. I just thought it was some bs. I was like, what they talking about, man? Like, how can somebody be on a spec and have this whole entire, like you know, world with these, you know, interesting looking people, you know what I'm saying? You know, but it's like literally that's what we are. Yeah, allegedly. According to, you know, astronomers and science.

And that's who we are.

That we are little on little speck. And this universe is continuously expanding and expanding and like there are more grains of.

Make your spec be known. Literally make your speck be known.

There are more universes than there are grains of sand.

Yeah, that's a lot of universes.

Yo, that is mind blowing. But not planets, but universes than there are grains of sand on the Earth.

Right?

Yo, that's. That's mind blowing.

Yeah.

And today is, you know, such and such a sad day. Unfortunately, we lost the queen of rock and roll, Tina Turner, baby.

Like, it's a celebration day celebrating her life.

Cuz she lived an amazing life. She, she. But it's still so sad to know that she's no longer with us.

So she taught us the greatest lesson in life.

What? What was that? What's love got to do Got to do with it? Hey, right. That's right.

But a second hand emotion.

Second hand emotion. Hey, what.

Going home celebration.

The great rest in peace. Condolences to the family. We love you, Tina. Always. Always.

Is it condolences when they're old, though?

Oh, my goodness.

Oh, my bad.

Okay.

Yo, we got a. Today's an amazing day. Beautiful day, you know, Conscious intercourse again.

Yes.

We got a, you know, a phenomenal Guest in the house today. You know, world renowned, you know, inspirational speaker, motivational speaker, you know, actor, activist, you know, life coach and so many other things. But I'm gonna let you, you know, introduce yourself, you know, and kind of share to the world who you are. And you know what I'm saying?

I mean, when you leave like that, I'm like, man, what do I say? What's going on, world? My name is Sir Amazing. I'm super happy to be here. I finally get to be a guest on Conscious Intercourse.

Finally.

Finally. I've been waiting for this moment. I know we shouted out Tina Turner, what's Love Got To Do With It? Came out in the movie. Came out in 1993. That's also the year that I came out. Oh, wow. Okay. What a great year. 93, you know, from three. 93. You feel me? But I'm from Buffalo. For everybody who's tuned in right now, and Buffalo is mourning right now, so anybody who's familiar with Benny the Butcher or Griselda, they dropped a collab album, I want to say, maybe two years ago, and it was this white lady's face that was all over the country in LA and Times Square. And you didn't understand it unless you're from Buffalo. Her name is Claire, okay? Claire passed away, okay? So my whole city is mourning because Buffalo, I mean, you see, you saw Claire all around. So I just want to shout out my hometown as we. As we get into this. This beautiful intellectual journey of a conversation.

Yes, absolutely. This intercourse, like that.

I told somebody, what podcast you going on? I was like, conscious intercourse. She's like. I'm like, listen. I'm like, listen, we have two brain and we have two heads, okay?

Right?

We have two heads. Okay?

Straight up.

It's not all about that.

It's all about.

No, it's not. That's right. School them. School them.

Right. It's a beautiful thing. But, man, thank you for sharing. You know, it's also, you know, Jim Brown also, you know, transitioned the greatest. Right? Big goat, right? You know, most people, Jim Brown as the goat, you know, not only was he a goat on the field, but actually what he did, you know, as an activist, as a, you know, as someone who pursued his passion and purpose of serving the people. I'm saying, so it's. It's beautiful to see how life, people can really make such a monumental statement with their lives and continue to continuously be relevant even after they pass on.

There you go. Even in their grand of same sand, you know, presence, you can Be big.

Jim Brown is different. Like, for me, when I think about Jim Brown. So on that summit was Ali, Kareem, Bill Russell, Jim Brown in the 60s, right? Yeah. And we. Here we go, have this conversation because this is how really how I feel as a black man. I'm an African, but I'm also a black man. I'm not Dr. Umar when it comes to quote, unquote, interrelation, interracial relationships.

Yes.

But I do believe there's a power in not sharing assets when you have a name that's as notable as those names we just mentioned. When it comes to marriage. Ali, obviously, Muslim, was Muslim. He was married to a black woman. Bill Russell was not cream. Abdul Jabbar is not. Jim Brown was. Wow. And to me, I just hold that in the highest esteem because people may say, oh, back then it was a flex to have a white woman. But you sharing your assets, what's the biggest things that we as a black community lack?

Assets.

Assets. So I don't judge anybody. No judgment. Tiger woods, you do what you do. Yeah, I understand that. However, for me, from me and mine. So I look at the game. No, I can't. I. I can only share assets with somebody who looks like me because I know the power of having those assets. So major shout out to Jim Brown, his family, everything he represents. You know, like you said, we rushed for like, what, like 10 yards of carry or something like that one season. Like, come on, bro.

It was just unheard. Just unreal, man.

Much. He was a freaking nature man for that statement. That was very popular.

Powerful, you know?

Very, very powerful. That's real right there.

You know, it's powerful because, you know, I remember one of my favorite NAS tracks, he talks about how he says athletes of today are afraid to make Muhammad Ali statements. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you really gotta stand for something, right? And Jim Brown was one of those people. Tina Turner was one of those people. You know what I'm saying? I'm assuming Claire, you know, was one of those people, right? It's, you know, it's all about, you know what? Because typically, somebody mortalizing, you know, who you are as a being in your experience, right? Even though we are on a speck in this, you know, expansive universe, it's like, it's a amazing dichotomy to know that you're nothing and at the same time, everything. No. Saying it's like wisdom is knowing that I am nothing, but love is knowing that I'm everything.

I like that.

Right Absolutely.

Oh, that's. That's powerful.

Real. That's real right there.

I gotta let the world know as you drop that gym.

Yeah.

So he, he gave me this, this great intro.

Right, right, right.

You ever seen amazing?

Of course, of course.

Well, this is my Morpheus.

This is.

This is my Morpheus. This is. This is the. This is the man who 2019 tapped me into audiobooks. 29th we had a super deep combo, like reconnecting type combo. Late 2018.

Yeah.

When I was kind of. I was kind of getting into the books a little bit.

Right.

Hey, bro, you gotta. I'm gonna start sending you books to read. Boom, boom, boom. And the book that really just changed my whole perspective forever is thing to go rich. A black choice. Everybody talks about Napoleon kills.

Think of grow rich.

No, no, no, no. When you black, you need to read, think and grow rich. A black choice. You need to read about Wally Amos, Oprah. Read about all these different people. Mind you, I'm leaving a bunch of names out.

Read about Larry Mathune.

Come on. But then like the whole storyline, right, to like actually have an understanding of the imagery of. Okay, I really can't. I really don't have an excuse to be lazy in my modern scientist. Look what they did. That's right. With what they had. And like, I say that with the utmost confidence. And I really mean it because my Morpheus, not just from the knowledge perspective, the wisdom perspective, but from the actual support. As in, like, I believe in what you're doing. As in, you know, we're going to talk about a few things that have been done, but we're talking about somebody who, like, that's my big brother. And I think it's important to make sure people get their flowers while they can while we talk about Tina Turner and all that. And that's why I'm just happy to be here. But I had to let everybody know, like, now that's. That's really my Morpheus. Like, that's the one who was like, which one do you want?

Red, blue pill. What you gonna take?

You can take this.

That's awesome. That's beautiful.

Go to sleep. Or you could take this and. And embark on his journey to become the One.

That's what's up.

That's beautiful, man. You know, I'm just serving my purpose, man. Being of service, you know. And even we talk about the Matrix. Like, I always tell people. The most profound thing about the Matrix that I discovered was that Neo was not the one.

Neo wasn't the one.

He wasn't The One.

Okay?

He was never the One.

Who was the One?

Expand.

There is no One.

You can't.

You got to expand because One is everybody.

Okay?

Neo was the only One that actually got to the point where he had to believe that he had something within himself to have him rise and defeat the Agents.

He was the example.

So literally, he was literally. He didn't think about it. He'd never believed. Even, even the Oracle said he wasn't the One. There was no. He was never the One. He just, when he was, he just was the One. When he was faced with life and death, he chose not to run. Think about that. He chose not to run in that instant.

That's something because I always ran.

She got you. The movie starts with her getting the hell out. Yeah, because she didn't believe. She want no smoke.

But I think that was the whole point with all the, with them telling him he wasn't the One. He still believed that he was the One.

But in the face of it, he, like he, it needed him to get to that point where he was like back against the wall, like, this is life and death, right? Like, what are you gonna do?

Right.

He rose. Chose to rose above, to rise above. So he literally wasn't the One. He was the One that actually believed the wholeheartedly.

And that's all that matters.

Why did he believe it wholeheartedly though? Because he had Morpheus who believed in.

Him, but Morpheus had Trinity. He believed, you know, that he believed in a lot of different people. He just. Morpheus just always knew that somebody's gonna get this message. Morpheus just knew that he needed somebody. He couldn't even do it himself, right. But he just knew that If I could just find a true believer, someone that was just like so naive, just so like, you know, someone like a plant, that seed where they've not been as corrupted by the world. Because I think it's about fear. I think a lot of us are over corrupted with fear. So it's to find the person that's the least corrupted from fear because that person then has less to overcome. Because in their night, you know, in their naive. Naiveness in there.

Yeah, obviousness. Yeah, I mean, exactly. Yeah, exactly. I know what I'm saying.

So we'll figure out what that word is.

Yeah, okay. Okay.

Right.

But yeah, so that was just interesting, you know. Interesting point. You bring that up.

Yeah.

You know.

Yeah. And you got a lot. You got a lot. You, you speak on a lot of things. You have a. Not a podcast, but you have a.

Whatever that thing you have.

Whatever that thing you have.

So tell us. Yeah, tell us more about what you got going on.

Okay, so, boom. Yeah. So have you ever seen a dog owner and a dog walking down the street?

Of course, all the time.

Who's walking who?

Who's walking who? Right. Well, that's funny, because that's an interesting point. My dog typically walks me because he tells me where he wants. He, like, leads me, so I'm just there so he won't go off. But, yes, he walks me.

Wow. Two people walking down the street, only one person is dictating the pace. Who's walking who?

Okay.

Okay.

When I was in undergrad, me and one of my good friends, we used to drive around the town. We see people walking their dogs, we scream, hey, who's walking who?

Did you really do that? Absolutely crazy.

Okay, Right.

Absolutely crazy.

Without a question. But the point, the whole premise of. So it's been an IG live, and I'm turning into a podcast. So it's been recorded as a podcast. But the whole point is who's walking who? We talk about this conversation. So having people from all different type of industries, from real estate to multimillionaire, business owners from all over, actors, actresses, all type of backgrounds. We talk about what you do from a business side, but then we also tap into your values, because your values that you keep in all your relationships are connected to the values you have in your romantic relationship. And ultimately, in every relationship, we have who's walking who. And ultimately, we're all walking with God, whether we know that we walk in ourselves or we're understanding that he always has a plan. So that's really what who's walking who is about.

Okay. Who's walking who?

Yeah, I love the premise of that. That is so.

That is, that is thought provoking. It is so. So as far as relationships goes and who's walking who? Oh, let's get, let's get into it.

Let's get to it.

Who's walking who? So.

Starting to sweat.

Don't sweat it.

The R word.

Because in relationships, there's always, you know, you know, particular roles that are supposed to be played, right? And you got your masculine and your feminine, you know? So I, I don't know if I necessarily like the who's walking who, because walking somebody means to me. I, I, I hear leash, I hear control, I hear all of that. So in a relationship where you coexist, who's walking who? Ma.

Well, let me tell you something. I definitely don't get walked.

Oh, you're not getting walked.

I'm not getting walked.

Okay.

I'm not on the leash. Okay. Oh, you know, we have roles. I think relationships all have their own identity between those two humans.

Okay.

You talk about the balance between masculine and feminine. There are situations that we have a baseline that we can play off of whether people want to acknowledge or not.

Right, right.

Whether you want to talk about, you want to go deep, hard into the Bible, it's a baseline that we all can build off of. Right. But ultimately that. And I'm going to say it this way because I'm in support of families. Not trying to be offensive, but I am in support of families. And there's only one way to create a family requires a man and a woman. So in that dynamic between that man and that woman, that relationship is going to be defined off those two individuals.

Right.

I don't think it's one size fits all in those situations because there are certain cases where things can shift. Life is life. Enjoy. See the friend. That's right. So there's, there's that. But for me personally, I am definitely not on the leash.

I don't think anyone should be on a leash.

Some people like to be on a leash.

Well, this is true.

Some people like to be on the leash. Some people want to be on the leash.

Okay.

Gotta reel them in smelling other dogs.

If you're out there and you like to be on a leash, and we ain't talking about fantasy, foreplay, none of that, but if you like to be on a leash, please call in. I want to hear from you. Because I. I don't know anyone who would volunteer voluntarily be on a leash.

But it's also. The leash is also conditioning. Right. So if you look at it from a different perspective, Right? Because for me, a leash is that thing or notion or perspective or ideology that has been supplanted within you that keeps you walking a certain type of way. So it doesn't have necessarily have to be someone walking you on the leash. It's a matter of saying, hey, you've, like the four agreements talk about. You make agreements to certain philosophies, ideologies in life, and that becomes what walks you. That's the leash that's actually run.

Okay. Metaphorically speaking, we get is these.

It's the stuff that Disney taught you.

When you were a little kid, right?

The music you listen to, you know, religion, to a certain perspective.

Right.

You know, the school systems. Right. These are all things that have been conditioned and programmed, you know, to actually be the collar around your neck that's actually walking you. So therefore, when you enter a relationship based on your belief systems, right. And how you're vibrating, how you're operating, people choose to be on leash unconsciously.

I think unconsciously, like you said, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a state of mind. It's a, it's a condition being conditioned. And understand that you have to, yeah. Break those cycles because the last, the last place you want to be on a leash is in your relationship.

True.

But even the whole premise around who's walking who. Think about a dog, right? A dog is domesticated. You tell a dog what to do, how to do things. You have to train a dog, you have to do all these things.

Okay.

Unknowingly, we are trained the same way dogs are.

I agree. Yeah, that's right.

Oh yeah. Who's walking who, baby? Oh yeah.

But that's the cycle we trying to break. That's why we having these intercourses. And you know, because we need to.

Take a lot of intercourses consciousness to.

Understand we got to get off of this metaphorical leash. Like we got to get off of it.

Yeah.

Especially in a relationship because nobody wants to be on a view. If you go and enter a relationship like that, it will not last. Like saying that somebody's on a leash. No, absolutely not.

Here's the thing. The other side of who's walking who too. I use the two examples. I use two people walking down the street, right. And then the person walking the dog.

Okay?

Now this, if, if we're in a court of law, my attorney spoke very well. He broke it down. Boom, boom. He represented absolutely very well. But I look at it like this too. To me, and this is a person who. I don't particularly like animals outside of lions. I look at a dog owner and their responsibility to a dog. I don't equate that quote, unquote loyalty from a dog as some type of gift or to me, it's more to how I view it. And it's based off my experiences. Those are all tasks that have to be done for that situation. However, in a marriage, in long lasting relationships, it does require tasks. It is tedious, absolutely require a lot of work. And when I'm saying who's walking, who even is the simp. The simplicity of just two people walking down the street, like who's dictating the pace? Some people walk really fast, some people walk really slow. You go to a restaurant and you can see a Group of people talking at a table. But if one person pulls another person to the side, you see them whispering in their ear.

Yeah.

Who's walking? Who in that situation?

Right.

There's. There's a dynamic that's being. This. This occurring. And that's what I'm really getting at within a relationship, because like I said, it's not as a. As a single. I've never been married. I don't have any children. I've been in unsuccessful relationships. There is an element of a leash that exists because that. That leash that exists may be.

Okay, maybe that's why you're unsuccessful relationships, because you believe that there's a leash.

So interestingly enough.

I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Is. Is happy wife, happy life a form of a leash?

Come on. That is a leash. That is a. That's a. If you look at it that way, that's being hungry.

See, that's.

What's that?

Is that a leash?

Happy wife, happy life.

Yeah, just.

That means she gets whatever she wants, and I just have to.

That doesn't mean she gets whatever she wants. That means you keep the peace. That mean, keep her happy. Keep her peace. You know, because we know. We know what a woman. What about my peace, Everybody? It comes as long as it says.

Happy wife, happy life.

Happy couple, happy life. It don't say that. It's not what. That's. That's the conditioning. This happy wife, happy life. Let her have it.

Have what, though? What is. I mean, it doesn't mean. Okay, let her have the leash.

Yeah, let her have. Yeah, because that's pretty much what it is.

I think it's all a perception. Every, you know, is. Is. Is. It's a perception depending on your upbringing, you know, your surrounding, your. Your. Your religion or whatever it is you come from. You. Your conditioning is how you will look at that.

The happy.

Absolutely.

Absolutely looking at it.

Yeah. I think there's many ways of looking at it.

Please share it.

The woman is, you know, this. The woman.

That's just.

Just, you know, a nation can rise no higher than a woman. Okay, explain the original mother, the first nurturer.

Yes.

Is the woman indeed a child's first teacher? Is the woman right? You protect the woman. You keep the woman sacred and save. You protect the nation. That is what. It's really simple. You know, These are the first teachers. You keep her healthy, you keep her good. You keep her mentally sane. You keep her right. Let her raise a nation. You're good. It's all on how you treat the woman. And the woman represents, you know, like, you see the black woman right now. Right. They say, you know, the black woman is just in a bad state. So, you know, why? Why is that? Why is that?

Because my personal perspective is we only speaking from the American experience.

Yeah.

There was a dynamic that happened in the 70s that attacked the black community. Specifically. We talking about Vietnam. We're talking about so many times where women have, for lack of better terms in this situation, had to put on the pants. When they had to put on the pants. And they looking at you as a man, you can't provide or you can't provide. And I learned how to protect us on our own. Why should I listen to you? And there's a lot of different programs that were literally bled into our communities to people who probably needed the most nurturing as a family unit that stripped the man of everything. And I think we're now in the aftermath of the misunderstanding. The misunderstanding of. That's why I said relationships have to. You have to have your own dynamic within your relationship. But there has to be some type of roles.

But it's not a misunderstanding. It's an agenda. That was the whole agenda. You break the black family that you. You break the woman down. You take the man out the household. That's the. That's it.

Who. But let me ask you this. Because you said break the woman down. My interpretation is it's actually breaking the man down because that. That sets off the whole. That knocks off.

Right. By taking the man. Well, but you break the woman. Go ahead.

No, go ahead, say it. Because I'm going back to the Willow lynch syndrome.

Yes.

Willow lynch letter. What did they do to create the sense of perpetuation of a slave for essentially eternity?

Take the black man out the household.

No, they didn't take him out of the house.

They buck him or they cucked him.

No. They emasculated him.

No, no. I don't know about the whole thing. Where they would. Every limb to a horse.

Oh. And go separate ways. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In front of the family.

In front of the family. Yeah.

So the mother.

That's what I meant.

Yeah, exactly. So they would destroy the black man in front of the black family.

Absolutely.

So then the woman would then be fearful of. So she would raise her son in fear of.

To not be strong, to not speak up, to not. Yeah, exactly.

Right. So it really began with the destruction of the black man. Right. And then. Then it was destruction of black man. And now it's like. Okay. Because to them was about having Allegiance of the black slave. Because it was all about how can we create this being that will continuously generate progeny.

Yeah.

Recreate or bring forth children that will continuously be slaves forever.

Absolutely.

And it started with.

Yeah, go ahead.

Weakening the black man. The defender, the protector, the. The rock, the strength.

But what did you just say? After. After being. After a man being emasculated. The woman now fears. So when she now raises a son.

Yeah.

She's now not necessarily speaking the life into him that he needs to be strong. So again, whatever she's instilling in that that young black man is what going to grow up to believe.

Exactly. Be. To be weak.

And so even with all that, if.

She was still subservient.

Right.

And domicile. Right. That's where we are. So, so now it's like who's walking?

Woo. Right.

The man is being walked.

Who's walking?

Because he's not. Yeah, he's being walked. He's just, you know.

Okay, well we gotta change that.

We gotta change how black woman ready for that.

That's really the question though.

Because she's not ready to empower her man.

No.

Because is the.

Why not? Why is she not. She's definitely ready and always have been ready.

Because she wants things.

But he has to know who he is first.

Exactly.

He has to know who he is as a black man.

He has to know who he is. Yeah. But if she doesn't love who he is.

Yes.

It's destined to fail.

She doesn't accept who he is because.

You can say, well, he got to know who.

This is very true.

When a man says. And one of my biggest challenges was getting to a place where I was vulnerable enough to say who I was.

Right.

And I was rejected.

Right.

So now my ego is huge. So I have to try to mend my ego through this and deal with the fact that I was already going against my own guard of being vulnerable.

Right.

Speaking from my experience, and I'm Gucci, but I can only imagine what it's like for him, the average man, I guess, in a way. So that, that's, that's the part to me where you ask if the black woman is ready. There are, there are some that had good fathers. That's the fact we've got, we have, we see that more often now. But we also see a society that does not embrace the idea of women really holding them down. One of the things I used to ask women, I said, you know, why doesn't any woman want to be Coretta Scott King? Like Coretta is the reason why we have an MLK day.

Absolutely.

Coretta is the reason why. Even from a distance, her understanding, like, okay, my husband's task in this life and his 38 years on the planet is actually bigger now. Just our family.

Absolutely.

It's across the globe. Like, he's. He's changing. Which means she was not a happy wife. Every night, she was like, no, she was never happy.

She had to sacrifice.

Okay.

Everything.

That's. That's a beautiful thing. Right. And then even. Even Michelle and we. Using these, like. These are like mega examples.

Right, Right.

But Michelle has been more open about it within the last year. Speaking like, I hated my husband for 10 years. Did we. That's a. That's a real life experience. How many women in our modern world can understand that that might actually come with that man becoming who you saw him as. That what you fell in love with. It may fade away during some. It may fade away in the illusion from a perception. It may not be there, but it's actually just some work. And I'm using one more example as a 90s baby. I think about the movie Hoes. Y' all ever seen Hoes?

No. I'm familiar with that. I've seen the little.

I don't know, cover. Okay. 90s baby talking. So when. Holes. Right. It's the mom and the dad, and the family is quote, unquote, cursed, and the son is the one who ends the curse. But the dad's idea is removing the smell from stinky shoes. So that whole apartment is. Smells like shoes. And that, to me, part of the ideal woman is when he's failing at this task, you can't be like Job's wife and say, curse God and die. You actually gotta ride it out with him. If you really love him, that means you admire him. And if you admire him, that means you believe in him the same way his mother did. And what I've come to learn, and this is in my experience, my few years on the planet so far, it's a very, very minute amount of women who actually understand that that's what a man needs. He needs you to nurture him the way his mother did, but not be his mother. Mm. That's. To me, that's the piece where I don't know if black women are ready for that because we do have way too many options. We in Atlanta.

This is Atlanta.

It's way too much.

I must agree with you on that. I totally agree. That's why we have conversations such as this.

The audience agrees as well.

Oh, in it. Oh, yeah. Always be dropping gyms out here.

I totally agree with that. We need. But that's why we need to get back, you know, to the drawing table and, and re. Educate our women, our, you know, the black community.

What if we just wore more clothes, prayed more. Yeah. Ate a little bit better, understood the value of sitting down and have these.

Dialogues with each other. Like the black man need to sit down with the black woman and share this. Not go and talk to everybody else, have these conversations with each other. This is what I need from you. This is what, you know, this is how I need you to make me better. We need to have these real conversations and not let ego get in the way or like you said, be afraid of rejection or we gotta talk, we gotta, we gotta communicate.

My brother had a very valid point about men and wives. Right. How we look at them. Believe it or not, as our moms, I've been married for. It'd be 27 years and November. And one of the first characteristics.

Yes, congrats. No, that's real. That's commendable. What do you mean?

Appreciate that.

But now one of, one of the first things about Tasha, that one of the, the characteristics that I saw was I saw qualities of my mom and her, and that was very outside of her being attractive. You know what I'm saying? I want to smash. But the more I got to know her, like she had those characteristics of my mom and that's what I fell in love with. But and at the same time too, like as a man, you gotta be, you have to, you have to be able to take a step back to say, okay, if, if my queen, right, is advising me or the moves that I should and should not be making, then I gotta, I gotta listen to that and not be stubborn. Because once again, if I see you like my mom, my mom is telling me stuff to make me better and that's what my wife gets. Did for me over the past 27 years. So. Very valid point, brother.

Awesome. Awesome.

Thanks, Mr. Producer.

Thanks for coming.

I just.

Andrew, you near the show.

Great point, great point. So. Yes, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And I don't. I think it's a lack of examples. I think we have a lack of examples out here to show our women, you know, we have a, we have a lack of successful relationships to say this is what it should look like. A lot of people didn't grow up in. Within a two parent household. You know, the majority of people grew up with just a mother, just a father, and you know, all kind of circumstances. So they lack the example. So we got to do better. And we gotta have that dialogue, you know, whether we do it on a podcast, take it to the streets or whatever. Like these. These young girls that you saying out here naked or, you know, need to be covered, they gotta hear it from the men. Because that's what y' all looking at, though. That's what y' all are glorifying. Social media.

Yeah, I see good food all the time.

But we need more of you actually saying it. We need you. We're taking to your podcast, taking it to your social platforms, saying it. Look, sis, we don't want to see that no more. We want you to respect yourself. We want you to, you know, we want you to be nurturing. We want you to be examples to our children. They want to. They need to hear that. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, but they hear. But they're. They combat it. They're combative with it, right?

They.

It's like, oh, that's not my problem. If a man can't control himself, I want to be. It's hot. I want to be naked outside in the summertime. This is me. This is who I am. I want to do this. Like, it's like there's this lack of willingness to actually listen.

Right.

To be. Or to be educated or to be, you know, Corrected. Is it corrected?

Enlightened.

Enlightened.

Yeah.

I like. Yeah, exactly. I like that better. That's a better word.

It's a word that I've heard so many times from when it comes to this particular topic. Empowered. Empowered. Oh, I feel empowered. If I show the world my body because I'm. Come on, man. Are you serious? Like, my thing is this, right? Everybody was raised differently. We have different perspectives. I am an African man who was raised by a single black mother as I was being raised by my single black mother and all my family on my side from more American. Even growing up, I still looked at them like, what's wrong with y'? All? Like, this is not how we operate. So I don't know if it was just in the blood. Our bloodline is strong. I don't know what it is. It was always like, that's. Even to this day. Me and my mother would disagree about certain situations. Me and my mother disagree about a topic when it comes to. My mom is like, oh, we used to date. I could still be friends. I'm like, no, you cannot. You cannot be friends with your ex, and you got a new relationship. That's what. That's out. That's a heavy no. You crazy? If you want to see what he got going on, then go be with him. You can't be in a new relationship with somebody else. And still that's. To me, that's a tie. That's a leash.

Really?

Who's walking who?

Really?

Who's walking who? Y' all don't got no kids, so.

You should let past relationships go. You shouldn't be friends with past. With exes when you're in a new relationship.

My thing with that is it's everybody's not the same. There's a song that I discovered by Donny Hathaway called Jealous Guy. Came out in the 70s.

Okay.

That song describes my perspective.

Okay?

Okay. I am a jealous guy. And what I learned, too, is that God is a jealous God. That's what they taught me when I was reading my Bible. So if you try to say, oh, that's the insecurity, I said, well, you telling me that God's insecure?

I've. I've actually. I've actually argued that to someone before. But.

But God is masculine, right?

This one right here, man, you can't say a song and he gonna pull it up. Oh, man. Thanks, Michael. Thanks, Michael.

Yeah, yeah. The interesting thing about it is, right when we talk about God being jealous God, right? God is masculine, okay? The God that we all know and have been taught about is a masculine God. So therefore, that jealousy that we're talking about is a masculine trait.

Okay?

Right. Because a lot of times what I have discovered as we have these intercourse, even in my, you know, evolution as a human being is that there's this notion that men and women are the same, that whatever a man can do, a woman should be able to do as well. And whatever a woman can, it's like. It's this thing. It's like. That's what I'm saying. Who's walking who? It's like, oh, if a man does this, a woman should be able to do the same thing, right? If a woman does things, a man should be. It's like this. It's this 50, 50 thing they talk about. Oh, we got to pay the bills. We're splitting everything. Like, oh, like, oh. So do you protect when somebody's. Like, if somebody breaks the door, somebody's gonna break in four times a week. Are you gonna protect two days and not protect the other two days? Right. Are you gonna. That's what I'm saying, right? When somebody knocks at the door at 4 o' clock in the morning, hey, Babe, it's your turn. Go get the door to say, I got. I got the 4 o' clock in the morning. Like yesterday. You go get it. This today right is. It's like there's this thing that I keep seeing that women won't be able to do everything that a man can do.

I don't know why.

And vice versa.

I don't agree with that either.

That's what I'm saying. But exactly. But that's to me is big the biggest issue. Because we're expecting feminine.

The agenda.

It's an agenda, but it's so ingrained in our. The fabric of who we are. It's almost like DNA level deep. Right. Because it's like women feel like, hey, I want to do the masculine thing.

It ain't because we've had to. We have to. We have had to do it. That's why it's not that we should or we want to is that those roles we had to be put in because the men were taken out the household. So we had to head the household. We had to be the providers. We had to do all of that. So because we had to and we were in the positions where we didn't and was somewhat successful at it.

Somewhat successful.

We feel like, okay, we can do it too. I don't agree with it. I believe, you know, the man should be the man and the woman should be the woman. Masculine, feminine energy. They need to both exist. You know, not more. More masculine. More masculine and feminine energy needs to exist. A man needs to be a man. A woman needs to be a woman.

We also need to truly define what that actually what is masculine.

Exactly.

It's like we. These are cliche phrases now because people made it cliche. It's a real thing loosely using tossing these terms about feminine.

Yeah.

Masculinity and what. But we're not truly defining what is masculine and what is feminine.

Right.

What are those traits? What is a masculine required to be the full potential full version of a masculine being. And what is the feminine required to be fullest version of that feminine being.

Right. To me is to. Is actually three books that. That every man should read and every black man should rethink or rich A black choice. But the two books to me when it comes to defining masculinity and understanding who you are is the way of this period man. David Dida. To really understand your purpose each. If you just only read the titles of the chapters. Yeah. You will walk away a better man.

Okay.

The other book is Pimped by Iceberg slim. Oh, under really, really get into the psyche of not only just how the feminine can react, but also one of the things that's most mind boggling to me about the iceberg slim story is he only became iceberg slim because of his mother.

Donald Goins.

The only reason why he turned into that cold blooded is because his mother. He watched how his mother treated men.

Okay.

He watched how his mother actually lacked love for the men that actually loved him. And that's a conversation that I don't think the black community is really ready to deal with. You're not really ready to sit and understand what. What's the responsibility of a mother when you do have to step into that role, Right? Like, I was raised by a single mother, so my mother's my hero. I'll forever appreciate her. We don't always have to agree on everything, but she's untouchable. Like, I'm overprotective. There are roles and there are decisions that single mothers make that you can't just live frivolously when you have a boy, when you have a son, just like a man cannot do the same thing with a daughter. What I can understand is that when you are a son and you watch your mother maneuver a certain type of way, it changes your whole dynamic. He just came and said that's the main qualities he was looking at when he found his wife, of course, was attraction. Boom, boom, boom. How could you love me like my mother loves me? So that has an impact. That's a conversation that. And this isn't my particular experience, but I've had the conversations with. From men that I highly respect who told me there are. There's a set amount of women that don't like to take the accountability that comes from that. Because you mentioned when we had to do this, I'm like, okay, there's a point in time in my life, I had to walk on crutches. Okay, I'm not doing it no more. I don't need to. What do I need to hold on to this? Why am I holding on to this? This idea? It's like, you know, I just started rereading 7 Habits of Highly effective People. Stephen Covey. I guess a lot of us need to be put in more situations where we have that paradigm shift, seek to understand, to be understood. So when we have a paradigm shift in like, oh, wow. And he used. He used two examples in the book is now. Because that's where I left off. And I've reached that point where he was like, when you're reading this, you need to make sure that you read it so they can be taught to somebody else. So you really take away from it. And he shared two stories, shared a story of his daughter at her birthday, and all her friends got her gifts, and they want to play with the gifts they got her. She's like, no, no. And he's like, what do you mean? You're being selfish? They gotta play. Just all these gifts you're gonna share. I had to sit back and look back and say, oh, my goodness, you. Somebody has to have possession of something before they can give it. And he had that conversation. It was a paradigm shift because he had to look back because you would think, oh, yeah, y' all both are parents. So he'd be like, yeah, no, they supposed to share. But the reality of it is, all she wanted to do is like, can I play with my toy before I share it with somebody so that I can know what it's like to play with it, because it was a gift to me, and that's a way we can understand somebody else's perspective. And he shared another story. He was on the train, and it's a father that gets on the train. Three kids are just obnoxious on the train.

Yeah.

And everybody wants these kids to shut up. So he goes up and say, hey, man, you know, what's going on with your kids? He's like, you know what? I probably should tell him to be quiet, but, you know, their mom just passed away, and we just left the hospital. So I guess they're kind of going through it. And he's like, oh, my gosh. It's a shift because just that piece of information from a. From the perception, I'm looking at it like, yo, get your. Get your life together, man. What are you doing? But because I hear that little story, I'm like, oh, my gosh. How can I help you? I'm sorry. Yeah, right. So I guess when we talk about what's the solution, I think the solution is in the conversation, because that can open some paradigm shifts. But actions always speak louder than words. So we can talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. But what. What are we actually going to do? And one thing I'm happy to hear, more people that more people are journaling, more people are meditating, more people are understanding themselves to be better beings in this experience, to me, that's the biggest key.

That's it. Like you said, it takes a communication first. Let's see. Like. Like, let's. And see where that takes us. But it has to be has to be communicated first. It has to be understood that the change has to come.

And for me, it also comes to the point where we have to learn to love unconditionally.

Right.

Because that's really, for me, the only way that we can feel empathy and compassion for one another when having these dialogues. Because a lot of times people get heated in these conversations. They get emotional, they get heated, they get offended. Because we define what masculine is. We define what, you know, feminine is. And then there's this sense of rejection, Right. Or the sense of, like, fear or denial. Right. And it's because we're so tied to these conditions, these ways of lives that we've adopted and have been part of our fabric of who we are as beings in this, you know, especially in this Western culture. So it's learning to really, first and foremost, loving yourself. Right. Unconditionally and accepting who you are wholeheartedly.

Yeah.

Realizing that the traumas, the. The. The pain, the shame, all the things.

That you experience are part of who you are.

And they're not bad things. They're just part of what has happened to your life to lead you to where you are in this moment.

That's right.

So then you could begin to have, as you love yourself unconditionally, then you can begin to love others unconditionally and have compassion for themselves.

Because if you don't like.

Because you ever hear a lot of times that, you know, the issues that we have with, especially in relationships, are simply a reflection of ourselves. Right. Anytime you get an argument with someone, whether it's a romantic partner, whether it's a business partner, whether it's a sibling, whether it's a friend, it's typically because it's something that is a reflection of you. It's something that's within you that when it's mirrored to you, trigger. It triggers.

That's right.

Right.

So. So when we have these conversations, the reason it's triggering because a lot of times it's mirroring. So we have to be able to truly face ourselves in the mirror and love ourselves unconditionally to really begin to have these dialogues.

Right.

And I think that's critical to really aiding this conversation.

Unconditional Love.

That's a PAC song, ain't it?

Oh, you know it.

I'm like, this is one of his favorite pop songs right there. This is the song, right?

Okay.

Don't.

Don't play it.

Listen.

You can close us out with it, man.

Listen, there's two things that. Two ideas that came to my head when we're having this conversation. Conversation one. I remember I did this video about when you say unconditional love, right?

Yeah.

Learning how to be in God with someone, not love someone, right? Because God is love. God is love. Yeah.

Yeah.

But we still separate love and God. But when you really understand what God is, right? God is never going. Like, he'll never turn his back on you. It doesn't matter what you do. As long as you hear, as long as you're here on this planet, you have a chance to rectify your relationship with God. He's never gonna turn. Oh, no, you don't pray to me. It's not how it works. Right? But if we can learn how to, like, be in God with someone, then we can open up that unconditional love. And then the other idea, when we talk about masculinity, I think it is dependent upon the individual. But to me, I'm gonna tell you, y' all gonna get happy about what I'm about to say. To me, the perfect representation of masculinity from a sports perspective is Michael Jordan. Uh.

Oh, no, I'm not gonna argue with you.

I said they're gonna get excited. Mike will. He might punch you in the face. He might cuss you out. But he was also crying on the floor when he won those championships. That's what you call passion. That's what you call. I'm gonna run through a brick wall. You can't be afraid to run through the brick wall. We gotta run. You gotta run just as hard, if not harder than me. Cause I'm me and you, you.

Yeah.

To me, that's the perfect definition. The other thing I'll do. Quick. Hear that music. I've been watching the Sopranos. I have a. I have a love obsession for how the Italian mafia represented masculinity. Oh, yeah. I greet you with hug, kiss, boom. That don't mean I'm. I still might peel your muffin cat back blue. Don't get it twisted. Don't cross me now. Yeah, that's right, though, but come here. Okay, look, we can see it. We can argue. You can cuss me out, cuss me. F you.

F you.

F you. All right, come here. Give me a hug. I love you. To me, that. That's a healthy practice of masculinity.

That's right. Deep, deep conversation. Deep, deep. Yeah.

Very profound.

Very, very much so.

Full of wisdom, you know? Full of.

And we can go on and on with this because it's so much to touch on.

So much so tell us a bit More about you, what you have going on. Like any projects, you know, what do you want to share with the world? What are you, you know, what's going on in your world before we, you know.

Copy that. Appreciate it. Projects. What's going on right now? So first short film I ever. First time I ever really looked at a script. Right. Entered in this international horror film contest. We had 72 hours to come up with a script, come with a crew, shoot, post production. 72 hours. We had a 34 person crew. We shot for 14 to 16 hours. And this film was submitted in a contest that had 70 films across the globe.

Okay.

We won six different awards for that.

Awesome. Congrats.

Thank you. Thank you.

First time ever doing anything like that.

First time I ever stepped in front of camera and actually memorize a script.

Okay.

So just to be a part of that was special. So stay tuned for when Bitten is going to be released.

Okay.

And then from there as well, I just actually executive produced a comedy. It's a short film comedy about an alternate reality where we no longer have to eat food. Everything we need nutrient wise comes in a pill. However, on a black market chicken sandwiches. So shout out to Scoville and Buckhead for the chicken. Twinkies, Right? Healthy snack guy has a date. And at this time, this is 30. This is alternate reality. But in 30 years, nobody's had to go to the bathroom because we haven't had pills. But he eats food on his date. And I can't even say what the name of the film is on the airwaves. Okay, y' all know what that S. It starts with S, ends with a T, rhymes with it.

Got you, Got you. It's cool.

Okay. All right.

Nice, nice, nice. Well, people, I'm sure you know, listening in, they would want to follow up with that. So let us know where we could find you.

I want to watch that film.

Yeah.

You can find me on Instagram at sir. Amazing. But it's spelled the right way, not the wrong way. So it's a I, M, E, Z I, N, G. You can DM me to get the info on that right now. As a team, we're still working on everything because it was like with the. There's a certain things we had to do as far as the contest goes for as far as Bitten.

Okay.

There will be a premiere that we'll be doing for that. We'll do another premiere for the other film as well. IG is really the best way to contact me.

That's what's up.

Awesome. Awesome. Sir. Amazing. Thank you so much for joining our Conscious Intercourse.

Yeah.

Yes. And sharing your wisdom and insight. We appreciate you, and hopefully we have you back on here.

Gotcha.

Absolutely. Unconditional love, y'.

All.

Y' all heard it. That's what it takes. See y' all next time.

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