EP 103: The Hardest Dog Trivia Quiz (Hosted by a 10-Year-Old)
23 Oct 2026 · 61 min
In this episode Jacob Morgan hosts a dog‑themed trivia quiz with ten‑year‑old co‑host Nina and occasional commentary from Speaker B. The conversation weaves through a series of dog‑related topics: a humorous training mishap where Nina’s dog fails to heel without an e‑collar, a chaotic encounter with the family’s chickens, and the back‑story of their German Shepherd‑Malinois mix, Vigo, acquired from a backyard breeder. The hosts debate favorite and least‑favorite breeds, mentioning Staffies, Malinois, Borzoi, Shar‑Pei mixes, and others, while also touching on breed traits. Mid‑episode the dialogue shifts to an impromptu astrology segment, where they explain ascendants, sun and moon signs, and Chinese zodiac animals, comparing Western and Eastern zodiac concepts. Nina shares that she is homeschooled, describing her social circle and how the dog fits into her daily life. Throughout, the participants emphasize perseverance over patience in training, discuss breeder ethics, and sprinkle the talk with light‑hearted banter and a quirky sign‑off ritual. The episode blends trivia, personal anecdotes, breed education, and playful astrology, offering listeners both dog knowledge and a glimpse into a child’s perspective on pet ownership.
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Right, you're probably wondering why we've got a small person with us on this podcast,
and
it's not Alicia. And it's not Alicia. If you if yeah, look closely. Same size. You're probably a bit taller actually, aren't you?
I think possibly.
Possibly
now.
Possibly.
Possibly. Possibly. Um.
Galoot.
Galoot. So do you want to tell us who you are?
I'm Nina.
Yeah.
What else?
I don't know, there's got to be something.
There's
got to be something. What do you like?
I like horses.
What brought you up here? Why are you here?
My dog.
My dog. My aggressive dog. I came last year to train him.
Yep.
And now I'm back.
Now you're back and you're into— and you want to be a dog trainer when you grow up?
Here.
You wanna be a dog trainer here when you grow up?
Here. Why would you wanna be a trainer anywhere else?
Yes.
That's true. That's true. And how long is it till you can be a dog trainer here, Nina?
Well, I have to be 13 in 2 years.
You have to be 13 to be an apprentice. Do we have to pay you at that point?
No.
Brilliant.
Oh, brilliant. Brilliant. So you're labouring it.
As long as I'm
here. When does it become child labour? Have you looked into it?
No.
Right, maybe look into it. Um,
I feel like we get paid because you always bring good snacks with you.
You do bring good food. What have you and your mum brought this time?
My mum bought cinnamon buns and a ginger cake.
Personal favorite cinnamon buns.
Yeah, I love cinnamon buns.
Do you?
Do you?
They're not vegan this time.
Are you and your mum vegan?
Yeah, my dad is just omnivore. Whatever's on the table, he will eat it. He's like, is that for eating?
Yeah.
And he leaves it and he'll put it back. Yep. So you can't eat these cinnamon— you won't eat these cinnamon buns because they're not vegan? Fair enough.
Okay.
Okay. And today you've got a quiz for us. You're gonna put our dog knowledge to the test, is that correct?
Is your aggressive dog still aggressive?
Well, if we take him in town with a prong collar, he's perfectly fine. He'll heel nicely. I mean, he will go in front to sniff stuff because it's like, interesting smell, I'm going to sniff that. Should we put some of your training videos
up here Shall we?
If you want.
Okay, we'll pop them up. You ever seen this podcast before?
Hmm.
Does your mum let you listen to this podcast?
Probably shouldn't.
I she did at one point, but I didn't hear anything. It's like I don't understand a word.
It's probably a good thing. It's probably a good thing.
Okay, yeah, fair enough. All
right. Dog
quiz? Uh, no, no. Stop rushing it. Yeah. Um, your mum's from Romania.
Yeah, my dad's Hungarian.
And your dad's Hungarian?
Yes. Well, he's from— he's the Hungarians that live in Romania but are Hungarian, which is weird.
Gotcha. We won't get into that. Sounds very political.
That sounds really complicated.
It's complicated.
It's like a big cohort of Hungarians in Romania.
I mean, there's like a corner or something where there's Hungarians.
Where was he born?
I have no idea.
Fair enough.
I have no idea.
No clue?
No. Could have been Hungary, could have been Romania. Probably Romania. I think Romania.
But you were born here?
Yeah, I was born here.
So he's classed as Hungarian even though he was born in Romania? Yeah. That's gonna blow my mind for the rest of the day. But fine.
Mm.
It's weird.
Fine. Can you speak Romanian?
Eh, sort of-ish.
I was wondering, since Darla's Romanian, maybe you could have a word with her.
I could.
And tell her to stop barking at people walking past the house. That'd be good.
And the rest.
Yeah,
that's what Figo does. He barks if someone steps— if someone stops the car or walks past the house. That's it.
There's no stopping him. He's a guard dog.
Yeah, he's a guard dog. True guard dog.
Crazy. Um, right, do you have any other questions for us before we do a dog quiz? No. Okay. All right, we gotta make this last a whole 2 hours, so don't rush.
Okay, okay, dog quiz then.
So what, do we take it turns or we both just answering freely? What are the rules here? If you're gonna be quizmaster, you're gonna set some, right? Okay, all right,
it's gonna wing
it. Yeah,
yeah, that's what we do most of the time anyway.
So
which is the first page? That's the first page.
You got the answers on there? Can I see the
answers? There's no answers.
They're in your brain? Yep.
All right, nice.
No answers, just the questions.
Okay, there are no answers. What's the meaning of life?
If
you want there to be If you were a bit in doubt, Google it.
Okay, okay.
Nice. If
we question your quiz mastery,
yeah,
you can
ask Google or ask ChatGPT.
ChatGPT, not ChatGPTTTTT, whatever you said.
Okay,
okay. So I say one dog breed with a blue tongue.
A Chow.
One dog breed with a blue tongue.
Is there another one?
Yeah,
there's a couple more.
Is there?
I only learned this the other day. Yeah.
Oh, fuck, why did you— sorry, sorry. Can we swear or no?
Yeah. Okay, yeah, I don't care.
We didn't ask your mum before you kicked her out.
Signs are— think, um, similar face to a Chow.
Shar-Pei.
Yes. Kyrky.
Another one. Another one.
There's one more.
Any dog that dog daddy's trained?
I have no idea.
Okay.
I'm not sure. Don't think so. It's quite rare.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah.
You can't get the answer.
I don't think I got one. I don't think I've got a tertiary one.
Do you have one?
Another one.
It's like a Shiba Inu or something.
Nope.
It'll be something like that though.
Can we have a clue?
Yeah, good idea. Clue.
It's a ridgeback.
Thai ridgeback.
Yes.
Nice.
That's a bit more than a clue, but fair enough.
Yeah.
I didn't know what else.
The whole thing was a small piece. No, yeah.
Any more?
Yeah, there's one more.
Picture of a Thai ridgeback.
No. Don't know then. What is it?
It's a Phu Quoc ridgeback. I have no idea how to pronounce that.
Oh, nice. Okay,
we'll put— we'll ping pictures of those two things. Yeah, yeah, I bet people don't know about Tybridgebacks anyway. I've only ever trained one Tybridgeback. It's quite a cool dog actually.
Was it?
My dad likes them.
Yeah, they're good, aren't they? Like good builds,
right? What you say, tell me if you know.
Okay,
what dog is originally a coach dog?
I know.
I think I know.
Dalmatian.
Yeah.
Yes. How many teeth does an adult dog have? I know.
I don't know.
Forty-two.
Yes.
Oh, nice.
What dog is used for lion hunting?
I know.
I believe I know.
Go on.
A Ridgey.
Yeah.
Normal Ridgey.
Yep.
Regular Ridgeback.
Regular.
Rhodesian.
Taiwanese.
Rhodesian.
Who knows what breed cannot bark?
I know.
Maybe no.
That's one of two.
Oh, I didn't know there was two.
No, no, I'm. Is it Borzoi?
No.
Basenji. Yes. Did you did you have Basenji?
No, I thought it was Borzoi by the time I was just yeah
yeah
yeah.
I love Borzois.
Yeah, they're good, aren't they?
Long long nose boys.
All right. Name.
It's a good trivia quiz. This
great quiz.
Great quiz so far.
Well, this one that I'm saying is only the sixth one.
Yeah, true.
Okay, yeah. Might need to slow it down, but so far.
Say one. What is the? What are the four Belgian? Say one of them. Say one Belgian Shepherd breed. Still thinking how to say these.
Grondel.
Say one.
Lake Noir.
Say one.
To veninier.
I can never pronounce it.
No, either. I just like to try though.
Turban.
Turvy. A turbo.
Turban.
Australian Adam has one. Australian English Adam has one.
Turmeric.
Melon wall.
Yes. We couldn't have said that one first. No.
Figured.
Yeah.
What are the 3 Ridgeback breeds? Okay, say, say one.
The one that we couldn't say before that took a
fucking hook.
Took, took him in. I don't know what it is, but you say you couldn't say it. You say
Rhodesian Ridgeback.
Yeah, took these.
And that's Thai. And then, and the—
so we got
Thai, the kookaburra one.
And there's one more.
What is it?
Phu Quoc.
Phu Quoc.
I actually don't know how to
pronounce
that.
Phu Quoc. You better go ahead. I thought it started with a T.
Could be a pool.
Turns out I had no cheese in it. Kirky's spitting everywhere. Yep.
Who knows? What— where does the Australian Shepherd come from?
Um, it's got to be a trick question then, right?
I believe so.
Norfolk.
I've figured this is— I've, I've, I've heard this recently. Is it Canada?
It's United States.
So United States, pretty much.
Pretty much.
Absolutely can't say that. Poor— they get close.
Close. Yeah, all right, United States, pretty much. It's like Hungary and Romania, same
thing. Okay, name one sled dog.
Sled dog, um, I'm gonna go with— there's quite a lot of them.
I think I only know 2.
Malamute.
One for you.
There's a lap hound. There's a— what's it called? No, no.
And it's not a sled dog. It's not a sled dog. It's used to herd reindeers. It's a Finnish
lap hound. Okay, obviously. All right, don't let him off easy.
Witch husky.
Ooh,
Siberian.
Yeah, fair enough.
Name one.
You
have one more to name.
One more?
He's got Malamute. He said Malamute. Yeah. And we got Siberian Husky, Malamute. There's one more.
Well, name— I said name 3, but Miles said name 4, so 2 each.
There's 4.
What's that Call of the Wild with Buck? He's in it, but he's like, uh, he's like an off-pister, isn't he? I believe that any dog could pull a sled. I've seen Kevin pull a sled once. Granted, it wasn't on snow.
American Pit Bull Terrier.
The American—
It's not originally used for that though.
Okay, fair enough. Well, it can. It's a good point. Honestly, I don't know.
Other husky?
Another husky? 2 huskies made it. Siberian huskies made it.
Alaskan. Alaskan husky.
Yes.
Is it?
Yes. And now Cookie has one more to name.
Another one?
Yeah,
there's loads sled dogs. Yeah, there's a whole section on them.
Okay,
in here.
That's all he's saying. I was getting some assistance.
Bernard?
No, sled dog. It's a husky dog.
Um, Bernie's Mountain Dog.
Same thing. Same thing.
Okay,
I'm enjoying this too much.
It's the same thing.
All right, give us some then.
Yeah, come on, reel a few off.
Samoyed.
Samoyed.
Samoyed.
Oh, you got one of them to this week's boot camp as well. I forgot about them.
Shit.
But when you look at him, you don't think he's not
capable
of that. No, originally, maybe.
I love Same distance. Siberian sled dog.
Siberian sled dog.
I've never seen one of those.
Tame impala. There he is.
They're gorgeous.
An impala.
Right, next question. Finally. Okay, who knows what is the other name of the Mexican hairless?
I said it earlier, didn't I?
It's the short version. You
need
the full version.
I have absolutely no idea.
No,
a solo. Go on, what's the full one?
Xoloitzcuintli.
Sorry,
Xoloitzcuintli.
Say the full thing.
Xoloitzcuintli.
That's a solo?
Yes.
Why do I call it a solo?
It's a short, but it's— I'm assuming it's solo.
Oh
yeah, it starts with X, but— and we used to go— when I first saw it in the book, I was like, Xoloitzcuintli. We quintly something. Then we googled it. Sure, let's quint me as well, right?
We need the guy.
We need the French Japanese guy.
Yes.
Yeah, to pronounce it.
Next.
Yeah, okay.
Who knows? Is undershot bite a DQ in the Malinois?
Yes. I'm gonna go with yes.
Yeah, you would assume so.
Yeah.
But there's the thing. They lose points if it's just a standard undershot, but if there's 2 or more instances overlapping, I think it said, then it's a disqualification.
Oh
yeah, but like 2—
I
only found that out a week ago.
All right. Yeah, I found it out today.
Yeah, find out.
Oh nice.
What question are we on now?
Name five illegal dogs in the UK. So name one.
Japanese Tsozu.
Name one.
Fila Brasileiro.
Fila Brasileiro. Yes.
Argentinian one. Dogo Argentinian Dogo.
Dogo Argentino.
Dogo Dogo Argentino.
One.
American Pit Bull Terrier.
And
final one,
who knows?
It's, uh, East Asian breed. No,
Japanese Tosa.
But
there's
a right big bloody, um,
we've got Tosa, Fila, Doggo, American Pit Bull Terrier, and the XL Bully.
Yeah.
Are they illegal though?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They are. Unless they wear a muzzle.
You can't breed them, can you? You can't go buy one and breed one.
Yeah, you can't breed one. Fair enough. But you can have 'em.
Yeah, that's only 'cause—
But you can't have a doggo.
You can basically—
Yeah, that's only 'cause we had a bunch of them.
Did we?
The XLs.
Oh, okay.
And then they were like, alright, we can't kill these lot, but from now, they're all dying.
But now you can—
From now!
Deregistered as well.
Yeah, and then someone went in— oh, Australia or something and got one and brought it to England and they're like, not banned there, is it?
Fair enough.
All right.
What question number are we on?
13.
Okay.
What is the other name for Caucasian Shepherd?
Horrible.
I don't know. I do.
Do you?
Ovcharka.
No.
No?
No.
Pangol. No, that's a different breed.
Shepherd. She's gonna say no.
Gonna give a no on this. What?
Caucasian Ovcharka.
I kind of said it.
He sort of said it. I don't like him, but I'm gonna give him a half point for that one.
Half point.
He tried. Half.
'Cause let's be honest, none of us are doing a mega job of pronunciation with some of these breeds.
Yeah, not even you.
As long as we make an attempt and it sounds like it could be, I
mean, we should have
got it. Could have been how you said. Could have been how you said. I don't know.
Could have been.
You don't know how to pronounce it, but
probably
there's a possibility.
Okay, this is easy one. You should be. Who knows what is the fastest dog breed ever?
Blue.
Yeah, true.
You beat a ground once. We got it on camera. I think you beat
a
ground.
Greyhound. There are 3 possible options. What breed has a coat that resembles dreadlocks? Which one?
Got it.
Oh,
Puli. Puli? We ever had a Puli? I don't think we have, have we?
No, I've seen one. I don't think I've seen it.
I think you need some loads of pictures of dog breeds up here.
Yeah, there's a pooling. I've never seen one.
Another one.
There's another one.
I mean, you could breed a poodle. What do you mean, like natural reds? Yep. I don't know then.
Komondor and Bergamasco.
I didn't know
about that.
Bergamasco. Bergamasco.
That sounds like a country.
You ever watch Italy in 2005 play rugby? The Bergamasco brothers, do you remember?
Yeah, they were pretty good too.
Marco and Mauro.
Yeah.
Ping them up.
Yeah,
they're named after a dog breed.
You should know this, you should know this. One dog breed is known as the badger dog.
Like actual— because I call Rip a badger. Yeah,
he looks like a badger. But, uh, dachshunds.
Yeah,
yes, crazy dogs. Kirky, name one retriever.
Golden. Nova Scotian Duck Tolling Retriever.
Such a long one.
Really good. Turkey. Flat coat.
Cheapskate Bay. Bay. What is it?
Yeah, Chesapeake Bay.
Chesapeake Bay. What is it?
Chesapeake.
Chesapeake.
But still, if you want the voice.
The Tony Hawk's Retriever.
No idea what that is, but never mind. Now who can name another one?
Red. Just a straight red retriever.
No,
no.
What do you mean no?
No, no.
You're getting no'd.
What do you mean no? Is there an Ivan Balabanov podcast where he specifically talks about red ones, or is it just a golden retriever? Gold? Is it a red golden retriever?
What have we got so far? Nova Scotian.
Yeah, we got flat coated, we got golden,
Chesney Oaks.
What else do we get? Chesapeake,
Labrador.
Yeah, is
that it?
There's one more.
Is there?
But I mean, I'm sure there's several more. Curly coated retriever.
Okay,
curly coated.
Um, yeah, I'm sure there's plenty more.
Probably just probably not in the name.
I don't know.
Stark's got a mean retriever.
He does.
Seen him.
Yep.
Next?
Yes, please.
I'd love to see you go, like, on a right posh shoot
with
Freddie. Oh, Stark. With Fred Stark. Just sending him for presents and that.
Yeah, this, this is the one that doesn't work, 'cause it's about a million, and I said name one, so...
Go on then. Do it anyway, go on.
Name one extinct European breed.
Extinct European breed.
I don't know anything that's extinct other than a dodo. A dodo? It's a bird. Was a bird.
Extinct.
Considered extinct. Extinct.
Considered crazy. I don't know.
Yeah, zero clue.
Give us any. Got any?
Old Croatian sighthound.
Croatian sighthound.
Old Molossian guard dog or something. Molossian something.
Okay.
And it's a Latvian hunting dog.
It's about a million more.
Yeah. 1
million.
1 million.
Wow.
Wow.
Overexaggerated by just a tiny bit, but
fair enough.
Why do I keep saying 3? Fine. Name one breed with webbed feet.
Webbed
feet?
Uh, presumably, presumably, presumably, presumably the Labrador Retriever. No?
What was the question? No.
Webbed feet. You didn't have webbed feet?
Springer Spaniel.
Uh, Newfoundland does.
Yes.
Spanish Water Dog.
Yes.
Nice, mate.
One more.
Surely one of the big monsters you mentioned, like a Bernard or something.
Saint Bernard.
They do a bit.
I don't think so. No, because they're rescue dogs. They're not staffies.
I've seen a staffie with web feet.
Really?
Yeah, but I don't know if it was like a mutation. Genetic mutation. I've seen one
with a third nipple.
Exactly like that.
Yeah, it's carried back.
3 dog trainers with 3 nipples. Um,
this one should be easy.
One that chills. What, what goes in the water and swims?
Should I say?
Yeah,
yeah, go on.
Akita Inu.
Why?
I have no idea.
You've made that up. It's in the book, Every Dog.
It's in the Every Dog Bible.
You're just fact-checking it. Yeah, go on then. It's good, that book, innit?
Akitas shouldn't exist though, so that's why we've—
Did you strip all the questions from this book?
Nope. Oh my God,
sometimes just from your brain.
So there are a bunch of different Akitas, isn't there?
Oh, it's the first page, isn't it? Yep. Akitas have webbed toes. Which help them walk on ice and snow. Doesn't have a picture.
No, just show me where it says it because I don't believe it.
What do they do? They're bloody sled dogging. They know what they— what do they do?
What's Akita's job then?
Yeah, what's his job?
I think
original role:
bull baiting, guarding.
You don't have to start.
Just have a look. It's right there.
It's bull baiting. Not— yep.
You reckon?
In the snow.
Dog fighting. Dog fighting.
That makes more sense.
Where is it? Yeah, dog fighting, guard dogs. Hunting large game.
Yeah, they're wankers, aren't they, really?
Now I mess everything up.
Yeah, I've got to say, I don't think I've ever met one that I liked.
I have Bear. Do you remember Bear? He was in the old center. He was like on an old YouTube video. He was a lovely, lovely dog.
Yeah, I know, I know the dog.
He's so biddable and sweet.
I know a dog that's a German Shepherd, Dutch Shepherd, and Akita. Mix.
I'll see, like, pretty
good.
It's crazy
horrible. Yeah,
she, she's a lovely dog. She's a lovely dog. Um, but her owner isn't really good for exercise, so she goes, she goes crazy, really.
Send this to her owner.
Yeah, I might get a
bit offended.
We'll tag her in the comments.
There's another one, Portuguese Water Dog with webbed feet.
Oh, okay.
Spanish Water Dog and Portuguese.
Oh yeah, fair enough. Yeah,
makes sense.
Yeah.
All right, name all the different types of Setters. So...
Irish,
English,
Gordon,
Red.
And...
Is there one more?
No, Red. It's not just Red.
It's not just Red Irish, Red English, Red... Russian.
Red Russian,
isn't
it?
Red,
um, oh, I don't know, I just thought it was a Red Setter.
Red and white. Most ridiculous name ever. Red and white setter.
It's not actually called the Red Setter, it's called the Red and White Setter.
Red and white.
Even though it's got no white on it.
It does.
White chest.
The red one is the Irish Setter.
What?
Oh, so he said Irish Setter and the Red Setter is the same as that. Oh,
really?
Let me show you a picture of the red and white one.
Yeah, I believe you. I don't prove it.
I'm questioning you.
Good thing I bought the book.
Do you remember that right small one that you had over Old Centre? Was it you didn't have it? Right small red setter.
Oh yeah.
Mad as a wasp.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah.
Quite cute girl girl dog.
Where is it? How many with S?
Hmm.
There's so many dogs with starting with S.
There will be. Who's cooking tonight?
Oh God. Oh, Irish Setter,
319. Did you get this book for your birthday?
Yep. Christmas.
Christmas.
Christmas.
What's that? Oh,
there we go.
German Wirehaired Pointers.
Can I have a look at your book?
Whilst he's looking at that book, I want to hear your opinion on German Wirehaired Pointers. Specifically German Wirehaired Pointers. What do you think about them?
I love them.
Do you?
So pretty. Mind you, I've never met one.
Uh, that makes sense.
Never met one.
Yeah,
yeah. Irish Red and White Setter, and then there's just an Irish Setter. There's no—
remember the ham story?
So we've got— yeah, why have you had another
Funky. Yeah, we had one last week.
Very, very similar.
Very similar.
I think that's all the different types.
I don't know if he's white-red.
Next?
Yes,
please.
Did we get all the setters?
Well, we missed the red and white one because I said red, you said Irish, and that's the same one. So we missed the red and white one technically.
And then, but we had the Gordon and the English.
Yeah, Neil.
Neil, Neil, Neil
the Setter.
What is it called when a dog has 6 toes?
Mental. Crazy.
I don't know, what is it? What do you know?
No idea.
No,
really, really?
Polydactylism. Roly-poly and pterodactyl. That's how my dad remembers it. Polydactylism. Polydactylism. No, chef, that's how you pronounce it.
Creepy as damn hell. Creepy as hell.
How often does it happen?
One in every— there's a breed that always has it. Do you know it?
Really?
This question here for the dancing.
What about the, um, Bolserons? They've got some weird foot thing, haven't they? But I think it's a 16.
Not the one though.
Is there a fancy name like that for the, for the real Julies or what? You know, when they're flying. Yeah,
that's creepy.
You touch them and they move.
Can you give us a clue with the breed that has 6 toes, other than it's got 6 toes?
I'm rubbish with clues.
You are.
It's—
you give the game away usually.
Norwegian.
Norwegian Lapland.
Nope.
Don't know. What is it? Cuckoo? Cuckoo?
No.
Cuckoo?
Should I say?
Yes, please.
Norwegian Lundehund.
Norwegian what?
Norwegian Lundehund.
Oh, is it practical reason why it has 6 toes?
Yeah, it helps it climb the cliffs to get to the puffins. It's used for puffin hunting.
Oh,
crazy.
I know. Why would you hunt a puffin?
I think it's banned now. I'm not sure.
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
They seem very—
You know what these boys need? Extra toe.
Yeah, to catch those puffins.
I think it gives them like extra grip.
I don't know. Um, I
don't know. Why are we hunting puffins anyway? I don't know.
How do they get—
this is all gone.
How do they breed down to consistently have 6 toes as well? Do you know what I mean?
Yeah,
it's like they mate one 6-toe with another 6-toe and they make a puppy and there's no 6 toes.
Yeah.
Then you don't know which one carries the—
Exactly.
It's like breed all of them, perhaps?
Everyone's chopping everyone all of
a sudden. Then you've got some weird dog. I don't know what's going on here.
6 toes on one foot and 5, 3, 4 on the other.
My dog's got a leg come out of his ass.
Next.
Yes, please. Sorry.
Name— this is name 10 Mastiff-type dogs, but—
10?
10.
I reckon you could make it pretty easy.
I couldn't. I'm terrible with breeds.
English Mastiff.
Corso.
Dogue de Bordeaux.
Neo. I
hope someone's counting.
English, Dogue de Bordeaux, Corso, Neo. It's 4, is it?
Yeah.
Yep.
Um, is the Boerboel a Mastiff? It is. It's a South African Mastiff. Don't tell me otherwise.
My mum is watching.
A bullmastiff.
Yep.
I'm starting to lag now.
A Cane Corso.
You said that.
I said that.
Someone said that.
Yeah, someone said that. A guy.
Is a Fila a mastiff? A mastiff? Yeah. Have we already done that one? I don't know.
No.
7. 3 to go. Think of countries and then their mastiff. Presa Canario is a mastiff.
Yeah,
is it?
Two to go.
I didn't think that one would be.
Is it Tosa, a mastiff? What's that? Japanese Tosa.
Yeah, I think so. I think so.
Can't you just try and say it? No, I think so. Get in the book. Get in the book.
Get in the book now.
We'll try and think of a different one whilst you're in the book.
I'm sure it's a mastiff.
I think it is, but we better double-check because otherwise we'll be spreading false information to all our podcast viewers.
Ecuadorian mastiff. Everything. Actually, pretty sure.
Where is it? Oh, don't look.
Sorry. You know, she'll tell you.
Where is it?
Sorry, I wasn't looking. I didn't even mean to.
Any big American things?
Literally an easy one.
Is it? Is it known?
We don't English.
Yeah,
it's common. It's not common. It's known.
Are we gonna kick ourselves in the shin when we hear it?
Spanish. Is there a Spanish Mastiff?
Yeah, there will be.
There is.
Is there?
Yeah.
Has it got another name? Mastiff Español. Sergio.
I can't find it.
That was 10 though, because you— I can't find it. What do you mean?
I can't find it.
It's in alphabetical order.
There's an index.
You told me earlier you read 150 books this year.
Spanish Mastiff.
Really quickly.
And it's starting to look like you don't know your way around a book. What's
that? Don't take that of him. Get him. Check him.
That is confusing.
Is it? No, it doesn't matter. No, I was gonna say something stupid. Just keep that to myself. No. What do you mean no?
No, no others. No others.
There's no others.
Do you know any others?
He gave you a ten to give you the Portuguese.
You're supposed to be checking if it's Japanese.
I'm looking for it.
All right. Well, I'm gonna get your mum over here in a minute.
Yeah.
Genuinely not there.
What?
Doesn't exist.
Doesn't exist.
It's not there. Where is it?
Japanese. Is it under Tokyo?
Yamthun, Jackapool, Jackabee, Jack Russell Terrier.
I'm gonna jack a pooby in there, but Tosa's 9.
Yeah, yeah, that's ridiculous. Maybe I'll find it now, don't worry.
212. What name did it go by?
Uh, says here, uh, Tosa, Tosa Inu, Tosa Token. Yeah, Tosa. It's a natural guard dog, it's protective. Does it say where— what family it's in anywhere? Yeah,
herding group.
So is it not a Mastiff?
Possibly.
The natural guard dog is protective, courageous, and fearless. It needs an owner who knows how to display.
Sheepdog. Look at the difference.
Oh my God.
Oh yeah,
he's herding loads of stuff, that bloke.
He's not really, is he? I've met a couple of those Swedish Vallhunds. A Tamaskan. We've met a Tamaskan, haven't we?
They're gorgeous. Never seen one. Never seen most of the dogs in this book.
We should work through this book and then try and name a dog.
Wasn't there a Saint Bernard in the herding section?
Yeah, mate.
I don't know.
Saint Bernard in the herding section. That book is a bit cuckoo.
It's a bit cuckoo.
Can we now—
It's just a bit—
Can we now trust anything this book says?
Yes.
Can we?
Yes, because I Googled most of the things.
Cross-reference. Yeah, nice. You always Multiple sources of evidence. I like it.
Well, it doesn't say if it's a mastiff or not.
I think we can say it is because, um,
because what?
The book's wacky.
But I don't think mastiff is a group in this book, is it?
No,
no.
Guardian has most of the mastiffs.
Okay,
I think.
Can you name us some of the mastiffs then?
Well, Great Dane.
Oh, I see that, but I thought, nah, surely not.
Yeah, it is. Well done. Any more?
Well, if you want to go very crazy and say Mastiff type, because I didn't say Mastiff, it's Mastiff type.
Okay,
then Caucasian Shepherd.
Caucasian Shepherd.
Carpathian Shepherd.
That was the stupid thing I was going to say, and
I
was
going to keep it to myself because I thought you'd say no. They're livestock guarding dogs. But
did we say
mastiff type?
What? I think I said Tibetan anyway. Yeah, you got the word mastiff in it, so you
did. Yeah, but there you go, there's another one. 11th.
11th.
Come on then, kiddo, what else we got? Is that us done?
Kangals, mastiff type.
Yeah, that's
it.
Next question.
Yes, please.
Who knows?
Japanese Toza, Tozo Inu, is a mastiff-type breed.
Fair enough.
Specifically a Japanese fighting mastiff belonging to the Molosser family. Pretty good.
Okay.
Well, that's something new. Who knows what dog breed was created by a tax collector?
Uh, I know.
There was a
German tax collector.
Oh, was it?
Yeah.
I was— I thought it was Labradoodle.
Doberman.
Yes,
Carl Doberman.
Carl.
I think it might have been. There's a decent
chance. There's a decent chance.
Did you check it?
Should says here. This one actually says it.
Do you know why I didn't know that?
Yes.
Other than being a
man.
We can say this now.
Yep.
I don't know whether. Fair enough.
She okayed it.
Yeah, she did.
Um.
Where is it?
I try and blank out the Dobermans from my mind entirely.
Why?
I just hope they don't exist.
Yeah, fair enough.
Dobermans aren't great.
I do. If you just don't—
it's like people say, I don't believe in crates. They just hope— they just imagine they don't exist. Yep. The guy's name who invented the Doberman, I'm sure it was Karl.
I think so.
I don't think it was Karl Doberman. Oh, it might have been.
It was.
Yeah, it's his surname Doberman.
I'm pretty sure he was Doberman. That's why it was called the Doberman.
Karl Friedrich Louis Doberman.
Amazing. There we go.
That's
funny. Any more?
Yes.
Okay,
name 5 pointers.
Oh, this is the last question too.
No one wants to know 5 pointers. They're a bit like Dobermans. It's like, okay, now they don't really exist, do they?
English Pointer.
Oversee the German Wirehaired because I already asked your opinion on those.
German Shorthair.
Yeah. How many is there?
Three. I don't know. Is it like a European country? American Pointer.
Don't think that exists.
Okay, fair enough. I made it up.
Good. You made it up. It could have been though, couldn't it?
Yeah.
Quite easily. Answer.
I'm going.
So should I say?
Yes, please.
Portuguese pointer.
Okay.
Bracco italiano.
Is that a pointer? Is it?
It's an Italian pointer because Freddie has them.
She's got braccos.
Oh, she did have.
All right. Okay.
And then poodle pointer.
Poodle pointer.
P-U-D-E-L.
Ah,
poodle pointer.
Poodle.
A bit like paddle and paddle.
Yeah, a bit like padel.
Next.
Yeah.
Who knows what is tuck up?
Tuck up.
Excuse me.
Tuck up.
It's a cup. Spell it. Can you use it in a sentence, please?
To cup. Is it like a verb or adjective?
What is tuck up?
Je ne sais pas.
Don't know.
It means I don't know in French.
Um, no, don't know.
It's the thinning of the waist, and I have no idea how to say this. No, like in a Greyhound.
Oh, like a tuck-up, like a— like, like you'd probably get soon with the tummy tuck.
Yes,
that makes sense.
Like Greyhound is just a tiny waist, whereas the Labrador has little to no tuck-up.
Gotcha.
About you. So it's like a description of a physical attribute.
Yeah, nice.
Pretty much. This one I already asked earlier on with the 6 toes. What breed has 6 toes?
Like butt lift.
Yeah.
This is the true or false section, so the rest of the questions are true or false.
Okay.
Okay.
Malinois coats are waterproof. False.
False. Well, I suppose it depends what you mean. True.
Okay.
Surely
It's like water repellent, maybe.
Water repellent? Yeah. So, okay. Yeah, I'll accept it.
True or false?
Trick question, but okay, I'll go with it.
Caffeine is toxic for dogs.
Nah, theobromine is. Dark chocolate.
True or false?
Toxic.
I'd say no.
True.
True.
Fair enough. They can eat three bromine and then get it down here, boys.
Did this one earlier. So Irish backs have blue tongues, true or false?
Yep.
And the last one is borzois are used for wolf hunting, true or false?
Borzois wolf hunting.
Too skinny.
You'd think they'd get bashed by wolves.
Yeah, they would. Yeah.
True or false?
I just say false.
True. True.
They will pin them down.
Will they?
Yep.
Really?
Two. Of them or three of them would pin the wolf down. Then the hunter would come.
Crazy.
Aristocratic wolf hunters, that's what they're called. Yeah. That's the end of the quiz.
What's the tallest breed of dog? That was a great quiz. Well done.
It was a good quiz.
Great Dane.
Apparently not. I got this one wrong too.
Really?
Really? Try again. What is it?
You'd put Wolfhound in there, wouldn't you?
Irish Wolfhound. Irish Wolfhound. Apparently, yeah. Tallest.
I thought, I swear though, like tallest dog ever was a Dane, wasn't it? Oh, so is it talking like on average?
Average is gotta be maybe tallest dog ever.
I'm sure I've seen like an infamous great Dane. It was like
pictures.
I think the name was just.
Oh, interesting.
There you go. You would stand up and his paw would touch the ceiling.
I guess.
Yeah. You'd stand up and touch the ceiling.
Ground or something. There's gigantism.
Greyhounds are quite tall.
They are.
I've seen a greyhound that was like that high with his—
Jakey is also now considered quite tall.
Yeah.
He didn't used to be. He grew,
hit 30 years, I believe, started growing. Yeah, incredibly.
So that's crazy.
Rumors, people said I had surgery to get taller.
Feet implants.
You're taller since you were last here.
Yeah.
Mum measures me and I'm like—
That
much taller? That much, I'm not sure. Something.
Whatever. Yeah.
I don't know, 4 inches maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
When are you 11?
January.
Okay.
You're not 11 yet?
No.
Crazy.
10. Read 150 books this year.
Not exactly. Roughly.
Approximately.
Roughly. Last year I think I read 210.
Did you?
From January to December.
What was your favorite book? I know some people that haven't read one ever.
I know, it's crazy. I know someone that didn't read any. We won't rat them out.
How? Yeah.
Favorite book ever?
Yeah.
Hmm, probably Vajrak Paw.
What is it?
It's a cat. Surviving in the wild.
Oh,
I like surviving, really. I also like war books.
War books?
War Horse.
Oh yeah, have you read Black Beauty?
Yep. Call of the Wild.
Hmm,
you read Call of the Wild? Yeah, good. It's my favorite, one of my favorites. Is it? Yeah.
I was like, why, why, why?
I've not read it, don't spoil it.
No.
Is it good? Worth reading? Yeah.
Excellent.
Mine was like a really old— this is how old the book was. It was my granddad's book. And you know when they've got like the gold pages, like on the edge of the page? Such a cool looking book.
I have some books that have a scene on the edge of the page, like for example, a dragon breathing fire on the page. When you do it like that, it just creates the image.
Oh, that's so pretty. Do you keep all your books?
Yeah, well, not all of them. I keep a few. Like, Vajrakpa, I reread about 4 times already. I just can't get enough of it. And also Wolf Wilder. I love Wolf Wilder. Wolf Wilder?
Wolf Wilder. Is that another survival one, is it?
Uh, no, not particularly.
What's it about?
Like, her mom's sort of, I think, Her mom went to prison or something, but not for a good reason at all. And then this child took her wolves to get their mom out of prison.
Oh, crazy.
Cool book.
That just seems very elaborate.
Basically because they
didn't do like a
prison escape with wolves.
Their
wolves killed an elk. Yeah. The soldiers or something didn't like that, and they were like, Mom, prison.
Right.
So the child was left there, and she journeyed with her wolves to get her mom out of prison. She succeeded. It's very fun.
Okay, I don't need to read it now. Thank you. I've just started reading The Hobbit yesterday— last night, in fact.
It's excellent, the book.
Yeah? You haven't seen Lord of the Rings, have you? No. Not allowed to yet? Too young.
Oh really?
Yeah. Good watch when that day comes.
Or Harry Potter.
Or Harry Potter.
I watched the first one, but Mum researched dementors and she was like, no, not happening.
Yeah, I think you'd deal with it fine, to be fair. But
yeah, yeah, there are weaker people than you that have watched it.
Yeah,
yeah, I've met a lot of them.
Like my friend, she said her All the bodies rushing with her, and she was like, "Oh," and they were like, "It is a fantasy."
Yeah,
it's not real. So why are you scared?
I knew that was real life. Train the dragon pretty much.
So
yeah, yeah, you did.
Yeah, I don't think your mum needs to worry too much.
No. Tell her the boys on the podcast said Lord of the Rings is fine,
and Terminator
two. Terminator two. Never. It's classic. Yeah, The Exorcist. You see that one?
No.
You want to watch that?
Haven't heard of it. And I just know you're telling me grown-up movies right now. I just know you are.
Hangover 1, Hangover 2. They're good. Yep. Ali G in the house.
Mum's gonna watch this and she'll be like,
yeah, Jacob, she'll be like, I've got a bone to pick with you.
Yes, definitely.
Okay, fair enough. Any other questions off the top of your head? No,
I have this I can tell you a story about Viggo. Funny one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, funny.
Yeah, funny, but very frustrating in the moment. So I took him on the bike because he likes running alongside the bike. Not anymore, but he ran alongside the bike.
Not anymore because of this story.
Yeah, he ran alongside the bike. It was fine, perfectly fine. Then he stopped to poo. Yeah, I stopped the bike. Then he walked around the bike and the bike just skidded a little. That was that. He pulled against the collar. I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know what's happening. He escaped the collar. He pulled backwards so hard. And then I was like, oh, oh, for Thor's sake. And at that point, gamekeepers came. It was like, wrong moment. So they got there, they stopped the car. Viggo went at them barking. It's like, Viggo, get back here! Gamekeepers ignored him. They just looked at him, carried on doing what they were doing, called Viggo. And then I was like, Viggo, come here. So sorry. Come here.
He
didn't
come. He didn't come?
He started going home. So I looked at him, I called him. He stopped. He looked at me, started trotting home, and I was like, what? So I ran in the opposite direction, ran in the opposite direction. I looked behind, Viggo stopped. He looked home. He looked at me, and then he started sprinting towards me. So I was like, good. Got to me, ran off again.
Couldn't catch him.
He was like, oh my God! He just went. I was like, Vico, come here. Off. So I ran again. I went. I got the leash from the bike. I ran again. He came, and this time I grabbed him, popped the leash on. Then he started pulling me. He pulled me past the bike. It's like he was sprinting. I was Vico. And then because he was pulling so much, I decided, well, the only way to stop him is launching myself on the ground. Like an anchor. Yeah, I just went boom. And Viggo just stopped. He's good. So I was like, don't you dare move again. He did. I got up and started walking. He did it again. So I ended up thinking, I can't go home that way because if I meet someone, that's it. The end of this dog and me. So I had to take the detour through the field. He started pulling again. When I got to the field, launched myself down again. I was like, don't you—
So you're just throwing yourself on the floor as like a training technique almost? Management technique?
So he stopped again, looked behind me. Then I got up and I was like, you come to heel. He didn't have an e-collar on. I forgot it home.
Oh,
just not ideal. So at that point, I just walked.
So you just put the two fingers up at you, and that was it.
Just walked, walked home with him at heel. He was like, "Oh, he did." Don't do that. And he just looked at me like, "Sorry."
And he did heel. Yeah. He's a good boy.
I mean, bit in front, bit of.
Did you get any injuries?
No.
Oh, it's fine then.
Yeah. But now he doesn't go on the bike.
Hmm. No. If he sees his head, he backs off, and I'm like, "Great. Never mind."
Oh. Yeah. He should try again. Well, get back on the horse. Get back on the bike, if you will.
Yeah, show them the bike. Ran off. It's like, never mind, pointless. It's fine though.
I think you could figure
it
out.
Yeah,
if I have enough patience, which I'm not sure I do.
You've read 150 books, you probably do.
Perseverance instead of patience.
Yeah, perseverance.
I got no patience, but I got perseverance.
Another story with him.
Go on.
The boss's chickens. So I took him in the garden. He sometimes goes to our friend to stay. He is perfectly fine with those chickens. He doesn't chase them. He ignores them. Mind you, those chickens have common sense. They run away. This chicken threw the ball to him. It came up to me. It came in front of me. I was like, shoo, go away. It stood there and it was like the dog is coming. If you have any common sense, you're gonna run now. It didn't. So Vigo came, he dropped the ball, he took one look at it, started ran at it. Chicken flew off like, did
you catch it?
No,
no,
only wings were there. Yeah, probably. And then he saw the guy, our friend that was working then. He went towards the chicken like, no, no, no, are you, are you He was running towards it like, did the chicken? It was funny. And Viggo just came back and I was like, no, you don't do that. And he just looked at me, wagged his tail. Infuriating.
That's all right though, innit?
Yeah, got him back on leash, didn't go back there again.
Oh boy.
Too risky.
Probably. Birds, not
chickens. 16 of them.
Love chickens.
Well, 14 chickens and 2 cockerels.
We've got a cockerel up where we live, and you can't tell the time.
No, they don't. Mine start real early.
Oh, ours go at like fucking 3 PM and that. They're just useless. Yeah. Just throughout the day. And I'm like, wait a minute, I thought you, you've done—
Yeah, so mine will do that like sporadically, but like a consistent Doodle doing, they'll do from about four in the morning.
Oh God! But Fleabag's up then anyway, isn't he?
Yeah, of course he is.
So, and you're up. Just everyone else.
It's probably me getting them up. Yeah. No, I know.
They have a cock though. It's that tiny.
Oh yeah.
It's a bantam.
Oh, isn't it?
And it has fluffy little legs. And it's like me and Mum had to do the chickens one night because he was so bad as well. I haven't actually heard him yet.
All right.
And we went all around the garden searching for him with a torch. Yeah, it's like, come on, I can't find you. Came back just to find that we had genuinely passed him by and he was dead silent. He was on the shelf and I was like,
oh
my God, why? Why there?
How many chickens do you have at yours?
Well, we don't have chickens, our boss does, but those chickens, there's The boss. 6.
The boss.
6 and—
I'm curious.
My dad's boss and the boss of the private estate.
Ah, yeah, your dad is— he's not a groundskeeper, is he?
He's a house manager.
That's right.
Sort of an all-rounder though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The boss. I gotta check with the boss. He's really chewing my ass at the moment, you know. I gotta check with the boss. Fair enough.
Scallywag.
Scallywag. Yeah, been called worse. All right, anything else you want to talk about?
I don't know.
No? All right,
did the dog quiz.
We did our dog quiz.
Vigo story.
Vigo story. Um,
you already told us what Vigo is, did you? Yeah, what type of dog?
German Shepherd.
I know you have, but people— oh, all right.
German Shepherd cross Malinois.
People might have been thinking, oh, she's got a really little cocker poo.
Nope, definitely not.
Vigo the cocker poo. Where did you get Vigo?
rubbish breeder.
Yeah, fair enough.
Backyard breeder. We had no clue. We just got a puppy on a whim.
Yeah. And
then got that. Turkey, what is your favorite dog breed?
Ooh. That's really hard, isn't it? I'd probably say like all round would maybe be Staffies.
Yeah, Staffies are lovely.
Staffies.
Yours is Malinois, right?
Oh, don't know, quite like German Shepherds.
You get one half of each and then you better have the other 8.
Oh yeah.
Malinois, my favourite.
Staffies are good. Malinois, your favourite?
And Borzoi. Borzoi second.
A Borzoi second? Very close. Have you ever met a Borzoi?
Nope, nope, never met one.
Fair enough. No, it's a difficult one because obviously I've got— absolutely love Fleabag and Bumble and that, but I think like overall holistically Staffies, I think. But I don't know, I wouldn't have thought I would like Mallis as much as I do until I got my Akita.
Yeah, nice mate. Um, yeah, yeah, whatever Mark is, I guess he's good. Whatever Starky is, mostly Malinois. So
yeah,
it's cute, isn't
it?
Yeah,
bull herders are nice.
What's your least favorite breed? What breed would you be like, nah?
Shar-Pei. Neapolitan Mastiff. It's like, why so many wrinkles?
Have you seen the, um, it is cop-out breed, but Velvet Bulldogs? You seen those? Shar-Pei Bulldog mix. I met one a couple weeks ago.
Seen a Shar-Pei cross Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Really weird.
We've had one of those on the boot camp
here. It was a bit cuckoo loco.
I mean, it's, it's all right because it doesn't have— only has a bit of wrinkles at the neck, but not much. And it has the Shar-Pei ears and the Bit of the face, but the body is the stuff she pulled there. It's all right how it looks.
Yes.
Also, what is your your birth chart ascendants?
Sorry.
What are your ascendants? I had a feeling this was going to happen.
Ascendants.
Ascendants. Like where do we hail from?
Oh my god!
Go Luke!
Go on.
What are you asking?
Well, I can find out online. You can find out. Anyone can find out if you have location, date, month, and time of your birth. It's in the birth chart. So like, my ascendant is Virgo.
Virgo?
Virgo. Like your star sign?
Star sign.
That is the main one. That's the sun sign.
Ah, gotcha.
But the ascendant is something else.
Wasn't there a thing where they Changed. Didn't star signs change a couple of years ago? So you could have been one and then you became another, which I found wacky.
Yeah, you can't. Yeah,
I'm sure they changed. What might be a Google thing?
What's your Chinese New Year? Your Chinese year?
I have no idea.
Right, we'll look into that.
I know what mine is.
What
are you?
I'm
a— I'm a fire monkey.
Pig. A big fat pig.
I'm a fire monkey.
Fire monkey?
Fire monkey. It's so inaccurate.
My Chinese year is monkey.
So inaccurate.
Why is it fire monkey?
Fire monkey.
They're like, we do made-up animals. What? What's mine then? 3rd of December, 1993.
I don't know the Chinese. I know Western zodiacs. Sagittarius.
Western zodiac.
Capricorn, me.
Same.
He's a Capri goat.
Uh, you're the same, are you?
He will be. Yeah, you're back end of December and you're what, January what?
January 12th.
Yeah, Capricorns, mate. See,
what's that mean?
Goats, eh? Goat sign.
So just anyone born near me are just gonna have the same personality then? Yeah,
yeah,
that what it is.
Not necessarily.
I mean, that's what star signs—
What does the ascendant mean?
What's the ascendant? Come on, then.
It sounded almost like the Avengers.
So the ascendant is the constellation that was on the horizon when you were born.
Oh, crazy.
Oh.
And they tell a lot more about you. So I'm a lot like a Virgo because my ascendant is in Virgo. I'm also a lot like Capricorn because my sun is Capricorn. Then there's also moon and all the planets, and then the houses, and then North Node, South Node, Chiron, and it just gets too intense.
It's complicated.
Yeah, I just tend to know the Ascendant, Sun, and Moon. It's the main ones.
What's the Sun? Like, the star signs?
Yeah.
As we traditionally know them?
Yeah.
And the Moon?
Moon is Moon. Your emotional side, I think. It's like, if you think about it, your Ascendant is the front door, so everyone sees it, but it's not the real you. Your sun, I think, is your living room. So basically, and then your moon is the bedroom. Not many people get in.
Gotcha.
That's basically the—
Not many. No.
No, definitely not many in my room. Not many in my room.
No. Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
Mom, everyone. But not everyone. It depends how deep you go. It depends how deep. Because if you go very deep, then no one. If you go on the surface, then everyone.
Oh my God. Oh, I'm really looking forward to your mum to watch it. For your mum to watch this?
Yes,
exactly. Real quick turn.
My friend's gonna watch it as well.
Brilliant.
She's like, bring it out, bring it
out,
bring it out. I'm homeschooled
and all the other parents and All right, maybe not dark. Maybe not dark. Homeschooled.
I am homeschooled.
I know you are. It was funny. So is that everyone in school and it's just you and the dog?
Yeah,
very nice.
And my friends,
which
are not from school,
right? Yeah. All right, should we wrap it up there? Yeah, it was a good time to wrap it up on the sun and the moon in the bedroom and everyone visiting your mum's bedroom. She'll be really happy you said that.
Yeah, not
everyone. Like I said, depends. Depends how deep.
Depends exactly.
Depends very much. Depends.
Right. That's funny. Do you know what we say at the end of the podcast? What? To sign it off. You don't? I
have no idea.
That's bad for me.
Yeah, but it's probably a good thing.
It's probably for the best. Yeah. Yeah.
So what now?
Well, we just we we I say I say. To everyone at home, I say goodbye, Ian. I say no, I don't. I say say bye, Ian,
and I say bye, Ian.
And then you say
bye, bye,
bye, Ian.
Bye, Ian.
There you go. There we go.
Went smooth. Bye, Ian.
Bye,
everyone.
