EP 79: Stressed Dogs, Obedience Myths & An Official Apology
13 Feb 2026 · 44 min
Kirky and Ian discuss dog training philosophy, upcoming events including a July mentorship weekend with Michael Ellis, and apologize for earlier controversial remarks. They argue against strict obedience methods that stress dogs, advocating instead for letting dogs make mistakes.
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I do like a caramel strawberry. What's that? One of them?
Some sort of milky star? Brookie, are we on? Brilliant. Well, just give us a second, everyone, to finish our sweet treat and we'll be right with you in a jiffy.
I need to refuel after.
Cut to commercial. If any fuckers would sponsor us, maybe we cut to them now. Do we have one? We're about to monetize on Spotify.
What the fuck hell does that mean? I don't know what that means.
Spotify are about to give us money, apparently. How does that work?
I don't know.
It hasn't said yet. They're going to improve us. How much do we get? 40 pence if they could just tip
it straight into snacks. That'd be good.
If you're a regular listener to this podcast. Well, I apologize. Especially for the ASMR2. I want you to stop doing what you do unless you're driving on a motorway.
Yeah.
Take a screenshot on your chosen listening platform and just chuck it on your Instagram story and tag us so we can share it to prove that people actually listen to this shit. But apparently people do.
And if you can bake, we do accept baked goods. Yeah.
Since I don't think Spotify is going
to pull through anytime soon. It's going to be a little while, man. Do we get hungry.
Yeah.
Cody's a big boy and I got a refuel because I did sponsor the exception. I had a waffle with Owen earlier on. We can imagine how arduous that was. So I'm refueling, which is going to
bring me very nicely onto my dog point of the day. Would you take your shirt off for me to illustrate my point or no.
My whole clothing?
No, just your shirt. Down to my skin.
If you want me to.
Yeah. Okay, we're need to see this. Zoom out. That's how fucking big he is. You have to fucking get out the old fucking wide pan IMAX camera right now. Right now? Yeah, right now.
This is pretty weird.
It's okay. Weird jacket you got on. You cold, are you, big boy?
Same. Next.
Yep.
All right, he's going some.
Put it back up.
Yep, whatever now. But you look fat. I would say with Neil, then.
There he is. Big unit specimen of a man, you might say. Now, Ian, let's tell the lovely listeners at home. Give them just a. A quick insight to your daily eating habits, please, sir.
Well, today, yeah, as an example, tell
everyone what you've eaten today, please.
Six scrambled eggs for breakfast.
Yep.
Four fried eggs on toast for second. Breakfast? Yeah, pretty much a full tube of Pringles.
Key. Key. This is key.
Go on. Two cream eggs, one caramel egg.
Key.
I don't know what the. Those things were. Just a caramel slice.
Yep, yep. Caramel slice. I think it was a shortbread.
That's right.
Shortbread.
You're right. And then the thing with the Rice Krispies, Thing with the Freddo on top.
Yeah. And these aren't exactly fucking.
The last.
Can't cave. They're not small pieces, you know.
No, they look good. I'll put over those soon.
Yeah, there you go. And, Ian, tell the people at home, like, is the. Your eating habit today, like a once in a blue moon thing, or is it quite a frequent thing?
You okay? I had to. Yeah. Yeah, it's frequent.
Yeah. Right.
There's a snack box at work and
I. Yeah, there's a. That is dangerous.
Yeah.
Okay. Tell people at home how old you are.
Again. Off. Wow.
Can't illustrate a point.
I'm in my 40s.
You're in your. You're not being a chick about this. It's gonna hold you. You old. I think my fort.
I'm 45.
I thought you're 46.
No, I'll be 46 at the end of this year.
Damn right. I'm getting somewhere with this. So you can eat us. Actually, a decent amount of, to be fair, and still look like that.
Can I.
Why is that? Ian, Hope you give me an answer I'm looking for here.
Well, I'm very active.
Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's true. That maybe is. Isn't what I was looking for, but it's kind of a point anyway. Yeah, go on.
I'm also genetically large.
Quite big. Yeah, you are a bit of a big lump here.
Trying to fulfill the answer that you want. That's pretty much it. I'm super active. I train hard. Yeah. But my point, I get the meat and bones of it, right? Yeah.
Yes. And you can afford to make a dent with some. Some real bad habits, I guess.
Yeah. So my meals, my actual meals are good.
Yeah.
And very consistent.
The core, the bare bones. You tick that box. Yeah.
Yeah, I'd like to think so.
And my dogs are whoppers, for the most part.
Yep.
And I can let them do whopper stuff like sleep in my bed, eat off my table, jump up at people. And they're still very good boys and girls because we do the basics. Right.
Yeah, that's a good one.
And one you have done for a while. And you can, like, afford a little Bit of liberty, I guess, with the. Yeah, you know, you know, the unit and massive metabolic rate in that.
I suppose if it does get out of hand, I have a stint of being less of a whopper for a bit.
Yeah.
But I don't do that often.
There you go. So hopefully you saw my point there. You can put your clothes back on now.
Your next. I don't even know if I can because Ranger's gone. Yeah.
Maybe just chill it. Hope you enjoyed that, ladies and gentlemen. Anyway, what do you want to talk about today? Should we have a debrief of the mentorship weekend?
Well, that'd be a good idea.
There you go. What do you reckon?
I really enjoyed it. Despite being a social remedial. Is that the word we use?
You are socially remedial. Yeah.
Yeah.
You are socially remedied.
I think partly because obviously the people and the people understand that there's probably certain. Within the demographic, there's certain things that people appreciate, isn't it?
I think a lot of people actually listen to the podcast and understand you're a fucking weirdo.
Yeah, okay.
Probably. So they, like, give you.
Okay.
Buffer, you know, like social buffer. Yeah. The food is great. What?
Kind of felt like a personal attack. It wasn't necessarily public. Yeah, fair enough.
It was directly.
The food was great. One of those was my idea, by the way, so I'm taking that. Yeah. Twisted, twisted kitchen.
Yeah, that was good, actually. He was really efficient, too.
Yeah, he was. Yeah.
He was getting people's orders before they
were even ready to order, which is key in business.
Which is key. Ready, fire, f. Get it done. Yeah, that's a good point. To be fair, he was.
And our customer satisfaction was very high. The other. Do we. Do we mention them? Yeah, they were good. They were really, really, really, really good. The other one, really, really good. I did nearly flip the truck, though.
You did. They just took a while. It was a lot of people to serve.
Yeah. And they made up for it the second day, too. They learned actually from their lessons. And then she gave me extra pizza on the second day.
For context. We have two mentorship programs doing at yca. Kirky has a dog trainer development one for to develop the skill sets of dog trainers. And I have a business development one. So for those that have the skill set for admob clients. Kirk, you made the skills. I find your clients.
Have you got any non dog trainer clients?
No, I've had a few think about it. But I ended up like, just going nice. It's quite niche.
Okay.
It's quite Niche and the content within it is like super niche to our industry.
Fair enough.
I think it would actually create more work for me. It's not going to be doing, to be honest.
Yeah.
What I offer to people is very much. Exactly. Kind of plugs them holes that they might have in that business.
Yep.
Chef's kiss, you know, build back all the systems and.
Yeah, yeah, nice.
I want to concentrate on, you know, the important high leverage, high priority shit that we spoke about.
Yeah.
So, yeah, just for context, we've probably had 60 mentees come from all over
the world, which was cool.
Yeah. Bunch of Australians and shit. And yeah, we. We had a weekend just hanging out with each other, celebrating each other's wins.
Shout out to some of those Aussies, actually, because they stuck around and put yards in whilst they were here.
Yeah, that's a fair point.
Obviously the other people may have been doing that as well when they went home, but like, I, I get here quite early in the morning, they're already working, mainly because they're jet lagged.
But.
Yeah, yeah, those fuckers are just jet lagged. Yeah, no, but they were. But they were asking loads of questions. They just really wanted to get the best on the sun they could. They were like, so shout out to
those dudes and hence they will go on.
Yeah.
We'll give Adam and Brody a shout out in particular, who also laid this floor.
Yeah.
We have evidence and footage of. Yeah, hell, I was. I went home by like half eight. I was like, you know.
Yeah, it's better you though, ready to use my. I mean, to be fair, it was my day off, so.
Yeah, you had a full day. You didn't even show up. But I did. You did.
I brought sustainance.
You were like the spirit of Christmas. He was hearing. Yeah, fucking.
Yeah.
So he's here in spirit.
Yeah.
With cake, which none of these ate.
I know.
Greedy fat fox.
Yeah.
This is insane disrespectful treat. Thing is, I'm a yo, yo.
I'm gonna go like after this cast. I'm gonna go hammer all the stuff. Annoying. This, like, this cast.
Yeah, you know. You know, we've done a few episodes. We can call it Cody cast. Whatever.
More casts than a damn fisherman.
Oh, yeah. So they all come shower tied to my. Brody. We've got new flooring in. We were sick of the. The. What was it, like a teal?
No, a little like aqua. Yeah, Aqua Miller.
Aqua. Like an aqua blue. Yeah, Horrendous.
It was.
So we forked out a bunch of cash. We forked out A bunch of Pablo's time.
Yeah.
To do four trips to Huddersfield, click up this new Black Mountain, which apparently footsteps show up pretty easy on it. And now we have to buy a very expensive vacuum. So if you could maybe pay palace or Venmo or some money for our. Really helpful. Yeah, so. Yeah. But to be fair, we saved money on labor because we got the mentees doing our dirty work.
Yeah. They offered, though. It wasn't like a leverage thing, Kinda. And.
Yeah, so shout out to them for giving us a hand and. And you know, they'll be part of YCA forevermore now.
Yeah.
I believe Adam cut off some pubic hair and laid it under one of these.
Yeah. Just. Yeah.
Like have his metaphorical fingerprint DNA otherwise yet.
Yeah, I think he. Yeah, yeah, he tried to bleed, but I don't think Australians have got blood. No. No. Why? Somewhere else, apparently. What do you mean? Just a rumor. No blood in there. Just metal sand. Yep.
See what I mean with the weird?
Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. How you found your people, you walked
in and they were like, I only say 4% of what I think because the rest is really weird. So then it comes out like, wild.
What's the other 90?
Yeah. So then if I said the rest of it, it'd be like, all right. But then the 4% out of context makes less sense than it could do.
Yeah. There's Ranger, the OG King range.
This is the first cast he's been on.
Cast now. He'll be. Been on a few casts. That's what you call them now. You're only allowed to call them cast. Like you've done over how many episodes we got 1270s.
If you don't know the 50 half centenary, you can go on cats.
50 centennials. Yeah. Anyway, we had a good weekend.
It was brilliant.
It was really good.
I actually really enjoyed it.
You did, didn't you?
I did. I knew. Do you know what I enjoyed? I enjoyed some of the chats that you invited your mentees to do.
It's good, wasn't it? Really, really well.
They did, yeah. Because you could tell some of the were not comfortable doing it, but they stepped up and they told people bits and bats about how they've got to where they are, which you could see people scribbling. Some pencils burning. Fires were almost set because people were writing notes so hard.
Caroline.
Caroline. Yeah. She's got like a.
Like she wears like a wrist brace and I could only presume that's down to some rsi. Yeah. Writing too much. Too much notes.
Yeah.
Too many Notes. Many notes.
I started to get that from typing until you'd introduced me to the tool.
Yeah. We're gonna become remedial, aren't we? Yeah, yeah. We outsource too much of our brain power to cover stuff.
I don't mind that one, though. There's the. Because it's still coming out of my brain.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah. It just saves a bit of that.
Use Whisper.
That's right. Yeah.
You notice even if you, like, stumble your words and, like, correct yourself, it does it.
Yeah, it's good. Yeah.
It's completely out of context for anyone listening, but.
But Whisper, you check it out.
They sponsored us, I guess. I don't know. Why would it. I don't know. No, I guess not. Because that was your dogs whatsoever.
That's a dog look.
Yeah. All right.
Keeping me. It's savage, though. I had to fight it the other day.
The mics we know about.
Why is he so wet? Yeah, don't hold him.
He's smoking.
Oh. What the.
He's been on the walkies.
Where has he been? Oh, he just pee peed on your leg.
He did it.
No, he did.
No, it's warm.
Yeah, it's definitely warm. And it's also got a heavy tinge.
I feel like I'm holding a fish. I know, but paternal. It does, I suppose.
I feel he weighs four, five pounds. That's either pee or jizz.
I think he's too young.
Okay.
No, it's factual. There's a good clip from the last one. I think he's been left in. Check it out.
Will it be, you know, it'll be the last. Yeah, it's gonna get.
Maybe not because we're batch filming at the moment. Cocknose replaced me for one. How'd that go anyway?
Long.
Did you finish?
That's what she said. Yeah, we did. Yeah. It was pretty good. Spoke about his journey, obviously. Client's trainer, trainer to Waffler.
Said a pretty good job recently, to be fair.
I know, I know. I actually might have to give up that hat at some point because he was off from yesterday at 3 and
obviously he stood up with his floor as well.
That's what I mean. He was technically off from yesterday at 3 and didn't that. He stayed to, like, 11.
Yeah.
Might be worth a hat.
He's got a seat on the plane to New Zealand, though.
No, he does.
Yeah. Courtesy of the big yellow dog head.
Yeah.
So, yeah, the taken cock knows.
Yeah. All right.
That's why we're checking all the podcasts. In case any of you give two fucks about me and try and get him in front of y' all out there.
In which case I will keep my damn hat. Sir. You can have your flight. Not the hat. You're welcome.
Nothing but the hat. Yeah. Funny. Yeah. I think it's like the equivalent of being knighted, him receiving one of those hats.
Yeah. Probably has to wait, doesn't it?
Yeah, you have to weigh it out. But any of the highlights of the weekend just passed
it really. Yeah, it did, yeah. Yeah. I had a few sessions of my day.
One lot going on. Abby did a vlog and she killed it. That's fine. It's very insane. But yeah, they talk each about kind of where they started, where they got to. We'll. We'll put a link in the description to YouTube Playlist. YouTube. YouTube Playlist. We edited put together of those talks if you give a. But. Yeah. It was nice to see their rationale and reasoning behind them wanting to improve things for themselves.
Right.
That's what we.
Yeah.
Obviously a couple of them aspiring to bring their partners out of jobs. Kids into, you know.
Yeah.
Buying whatever.
Yeah. I can't respect it.
No, I don't really.
Not that one.
That doesn't appeal to me.
No.
Really. But probably like it.
Yeah, you would do.
Yeah.
It's a bit of you that.
Yeah. What else have we done this week, mate?
Mini little boot camp. Just a little warning. The last minute.
One little smidge boot camp.
Little smidgey more so that the mentorship folk had something to have a bit of a look at hands on.
So I promised there'd be a boot camp here when they were here.
Yeah.
We actually don't run them the last week of each month.
Yeah.
Which I should probably know. So we have excellent boot camp.
Yeah, it went okay. Pretty good people showed up. Yeah. And they. I think they were more interested because they're obviously they've learned a bits and bats off yourself. Training wise. They were more interested in. And like any differences in delivery to people and things. Yeah, sure.
Great things to say about your delivery and in particular he's. He was. Said he took a lot away and was going to take a bunch home with it.
Oh, nice. The other side of the world.
So part of you will be in the Northern beach. Yeah.
And he's me.
What you'd want to be that part, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
He's weather today.
He says when he's like a gazillionaire he's going to fly us over nice in a crazy. He Showed me the area where he was going to get as a thing and it was like the sea on one side and on the other side was weird.
Yeah, well, that's nice too.
Like two tv.
Like, we are also so close to finalizing the details of New Zealand. In fact, by the time this podcast goes out, we will have released tickets. So we'll put a link for them in the description. There you go. We're actually doing a two day seminar, which would be more theory than practical. And then we're doing a five day boot camp. So seminar is Saturday, Sunday, 24th, 25th. Suze. Somewhere around there of July. July, May. Oh, nay,
it's not July.
It's not July.
There's something else in July, potentially.
We're going 17th of May till the 1st of June.
How do you know? How does she know that? There's a group.
You're in it. You're in the group. You've got a notification on your phone. Oh. So yeah, between the 17th of May and the. What? Why?
Put it away.
Fuck.
Oh, yeah, no, that. Well, literally it's not burnt in there, is it?
To the first of June at some point during that time period? I think it's the 25th or something around there.
Yeah, you told me 23rd for the seminar.
23rd, 24th seminar. And then the five day, the straight after that, Monday.
Does that sound right?
Boot camp, which would be 10 dogs, 10 owners, which would be more like an intensity. It's a replica of the boot camp we do here.
Oh, nice.
There you go.
Only with an accent.
Only with a bit of chew cuzzy. If you could join us, that'd be great.
Do we have a location confirmed?
Yeah, Stillwater.
Huh. I thought that was America.
Yeah, no, Stillwater in like a fucking big box barn type thing. It's next. It's near Auckland, I think. All right. Actually, no, I don't know.
Yeah, fair enough. He's gonna meet us there too, isn't he?
Apparently, yeah. The Aussie here meets there.
Perfect.
Could be nice.
Slightly easier trip for them, of course.
Yeah. And then. Which could be too early to announce, but it July, actually, July next mentorship weekend is the 4th and 5th. I want to say 4th of July and we're gonna hold a big bonanza fireworks in that.
Yep, nice.
It's gonna be crazy. I'm actually genuinely getting a magician to walk around the place and do tricks.
Oh, nice. Yeah.
And then also balloon animals, but different types of dogs.
Oh, cool.
It'll be a different guy then.
Look, the two different. Two different Dudes. Because too much knowledge needed by any one human.
Yeah.
Oh, nice. That'd be cool. No,
here's the big secret. She's definitely premature, but we're gonna do it anyway. So we got mantleship weekend, 4th and 5th and we got a week off, Monday to Friday off.
Is that because we're gonna be hungover?
Yeah.
Nice. We can get those speakers we were talking about.
Oh, we are going to get big fucking speak.
Yeah, nice.
Speaker system is going to be insane. Glow sticks. Jumbotron for over the. If we could actually take a picture and then just AI it soon at some point, just so people have a. Quite a kind of idea of what they're in for. Just, you know, a big Jumbotron there will ping there. Pops. And then. And then 11th and 12th. I don't know to consider this pending or still a pencil thing. I have had confirmation from the man himself.
Have you got it in an email or a text?
I've got it in writing.
Like a note? No, an Instagram. Yeah, all right, fine.
That counts, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Michael Ellis will be here. The first time in the uk, I
was going to say. Is that the first time ever?
Yeah. He's never been to the UK before.
Probably the last. Probably the last time.
Okay.
He's going to rock up and go, I get why I've not been here before. I get it. Fair enough. At least he's coming in July, so if he came at this time of year, he'd probably go straight back.
Yeah. So we're going to. We're going to. We're going to host him, obviously. Presumably a few of the mentees will come down for that. They can have a. A holiday in Leeds in between and then stay on for Big Mick.
Oh, that'd be cool, wouldn't it?
Yeah. Then hopefully, Michael, you'd presume he'd come out nice and early and I don't know, we could go bird watching all together because.
Nice. Like us.
My friend is well into orthonthology.
Is it ornithology? Yeah, yeah, you bang on.
There you go.
Oh, cool. We could take him to fucking Bempton and show him some puffins and that. Oh, yeah, yeah.
All right. Where would you go birdwatching? Nan. Nan dear.
There's a few little reserves. Nature reserves. Rod Lee's got one. Yeah, it kind of depends what you want to see. What do you want to see?
I don't know. Ask him.
I mean, right, to be fair, right here we've got one of my favorite birds, Red Kites flying over every day. Red kite also.
Lots of owls around here. I've seen a few owls.
Yeah, I saw one in the morning. Yeah.
So, yeah, big mix coming.
Basically turned into a podcast of announcements.
Yeah.
Yeah, brilliant.
One up now.
Yeah.
And then we'll just make ourselves do it.
Have you told them about the Rock?
No, they didn't mention Dwayne Johnson at all. So we're actually hosting WrestleMania here in October as well.
The first time in the uk.
That would be kind of cool.
Yeah, it would be, wouldn't it? He likes. He's got Frenchie, though, hasn't he, Dwayne? Yeah. Oh, he did have. I know, I know. I think one of us passed away, but I don't know if he's got another one.
Oh, there you go. You big dudes love Frenchie.
Big, big dudes and a Frenchie.
Yeah, that's really it. What are you doing there?
Yeah, he's. Yeah.
Pan over. Could he been. You seen that meme? It's like me and my dog that I've known for 10 years. I listening you. Yeah. What you doing? Come here, come here. You can't go on there because there's a mic in the way. Good thing. There he is.
There he is.
You were a catalyst to all this, sir.
Yeah, yeah. Funny, isn't it?
Triggered something crazy, unlikely set of events.
Almost like the Big Bang.
Almost like the Big Bang, but for dog training.
Yeah.
And now, one minute you're being a knob, trying to chin everyone, next minute, Michael Ellis is up to yca. Look at that.
One of my favorite memories of all time, when he did the Chin Dynamic.
Yeah.
Straight on the nose.
Has a puppy run up to our good mate.
Down, no hesitation.
He still kind of does that. Not in a malicious way.
Yeah.
So we're excited. Don't really know what to eat.
Yeah. Yeah. The bag's got better than him.
Any else you want to talk about dogs or anything? Or we kind of pecking, Miss?
I think people care about dogs too much.
I don't either. I. I care about dogs. I just don't think you care about dogs if you made it this far, at least. Anyway, he found a picture of Dave from the. Is his name Dave? Found it. Wasn't even me.
What the.
From the snorkel shop. What we talking about?
No way.
Yeah, she. Is that him? And I was like, yeah, that's him. Tag him. Literally him.
Does he go on Instagram? He'll love that. He's a good dude, right?
Yeah.
Oh, brilliant. He's like, I Remember those? Cashed up on them. Ah, so good. Really.
D Poppy. Women are terrifying. Their investig investigatory skills, well aware. Oh, yeah, well aware. Preaching to the choir.
Even if it don't do nothing, sir. Find it out anyway.
And I've been in every day this week.
Yeah, I know. It's been a little bit eerie.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, I've enjoyed it too.
Flor's up to. Yeah, you should be like that.
Be like that all week, mate. I don't think that's a. I think
they're on their sink week, to be fair.
I don't know if maybe you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It happens. Dogs do it.
It's menopausal.
Dogs do it too, don't they?
Dogs do it.
So why wouldn't even educated bees do it? Yeah.
Why wouldn't the women of the YCA do the same?
Yeah, it's plausible.
Sync up. It's a terrible week for us.
Yeah.
Purely reasonable.
We should have a week off.
Yeah, we should.
Yeah.
Yeah. Listen, you crack on, stick over our shoulder with a little red bag on the end. See you, ladies. Enjoy Shark Week.
He's like, here we go.
Do your admin, do your emails. We'll see you next week when you're all more reasonable. When you stop thinking with your frontal cortex.
He's gone. He's gone.
I hope we can leave that in. It is funny.
Yeah, it is.
How the offensive has kind of.
I don't know how it's offensive. Biologically.
They're like, probably work around everyone and ask them. Do a lot of survey. Like an anomalous survey. Aren't you on the vlog this week? It trust bears.
You know, I was gonna say be careful. I didn't say we could do a bow. It.
Oh, no, the heart is too much.
Oh, my. Oh, we're in trouble for that one.
With someone. Yeah, with someone. Yeah. We haven't gotten a lot of trouble, though.
No.
We're pushing boundaries, aren't we? This is the thing.
Yeah.
Not enough of a coming down hard on us and now all we're doing. Yeah, it's continually like a dog would test. Where is the limit? Is it talking about your female employees, whether or not they've synced themselves up. So. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe.
Yeah.
You've had a good go on those San Pel Guinos, haven't you, mate, I
was going to say the same about you. I know.
What do you mean?
The last time I looked in there, there was a good eight.
I didn't touch any I looked in there, it was full. So explain that one.
Oh, yeah, I have made a dent in prize of that. But I was like, I won't. I won't make it look too sparse.
I did see Owen fucking snag one yesterday, but he was like on his fourth hour of floor lane. Yeah, that's that.
But. But there was definitely, when I looked last, a good eight. I did take one today, though, so it was like two left and I took one.
I couldn't get one now, could I? Suz bought a terrible headache.
You do? Well, it's the last one where the. I honestly haven't taken them. I swear. I swear.
Yeah, yeah, there you go. We only do glass bottles of spark.
Yeah, there you go.
Hey, maybe we should talk about where we have come from
on this cast or in one of the. Or another cast.
We'll do on another cast the next episode.
We'll go probably to collate some shots.
Yeah, we'll collate some photographs of the old place. And we're starting a vlog as well.
All right.
Yeah, we're starting a vlog.
I heard rumors.
Yeah, there's a. There's hints, the sniffs of a vlog happening. So, you know, look forward to that, I guess.
Captain Kirk behind the scenes star dude, 2026.
Yeah, that type of vibes got you.
All right. There's a lot of ruckus coming from over there. What are they doing?
Yeah, there's shenanigans happening in the arena. There's a new bloke here, so obviously Alicia's.
Look at me, look at me, look at me. Yeah.
Innit though? Every time there's some fucking volunteer.
Yeah, come on.
Come be my puppet skips around the
place and then he sees his ships
around, snaffles after him like a carp. Just run the trail behind her. She's just crossing out her pheromones
and
then gets all angry when they dm. DM hers to them. Oh, my God. I followed me. Oh, no. Susie is in stitches. You know, you can't see. And she's in stitches because she knows very well. I wish I had my true as true can be.
I wish I had phone so I could video Susie's response.
One word comes to mind. Nelly Furtado. Maneater.
Super's gone.
Susie's gone. Better now she's gone.
She snorted. She just snorted.
She just did an official snort. She. Tears ran down her face. Well, please let's leave that one in. Come on.
Come on. Give anything worse on this?
Well, that's what's happening there.
Yeah.
Yeah. And then. Yeah. So the. The blog is happening. That's happening as of. I don't know. Next week we've got a guy coming for a trial to film this first vlog. See how he goes.
Okay. Just.
We've been instructed to do more behind the scenes stuff.
Nice.
We could sing Gods above us.
Yeah.
Telling us what we need to do.
Show. I thought you were going to say facilities. I thought you were going to say popular demand, but that would probably not be true. Listen, could you reduce the amount of blogs you're doing? Because honestly, I had a bit of enough of you.
So let's give the people at home just one little nugget of gold for their time with us. Anything you've observed this week, anything you relate to the punties or your dog trainer development crew. All right on them.
Am I all right? I was trying to come with something good though. Rather just splitting up some shite a. Oh, that's weird. It's like a bit of a thing. Yeah, fair enough.
There was a real theme, but not shine at all. Also this podcast on this cast.
This cast. I'd be really conscious and not. I. You know, I did a 180 on obedience. I used to like fucking hate on it.
Yeah.
Now I'm a bit back on it. Okay.
I made a YouTube video on this. So be very careful what you say because it might completely contradict the YouTube video.
Okay.
But yeah, go on. Anyway. Give me a.
Give me. I think it's good. So long as you've got the ability to give your dog an off.
Oh yeah.
So like I saw three dogs the other week that had been hammered with obedience and they were stressed because they were constantly looking for what they had to do next. And on the. So there's that. They couldn't then get rid of the dog to let them go. I can just go and be a dog and sniff some and maybe do something.
Yep.
And this is going to sound a little bit weird, but you also can't give them the liberty to maybe make a mistake so you can fix that mistake.
Yeah, that's.
That's also good.
Yeah. That one more actually.
Yeah, I know. I just. Yeah, I just.
Bit of a rabbit hole though, isn't it? Yeah.
For sure.
We maybe don't want to open that can of worms.
This podcast like us to. In a.
In a future podcast. We'd be more than welcome.
Yeah.
To explain in great detail and depth if you possibly give a. The creating too much of an obedient doll Deprives them of potentially.
Yeah.
Liberating lessons.
Yeah. Even like a reinforcement trap. The booby trap of reinforcement. That's what we'll call the podcast. Yeah, that sounds cool, doesn't it? If nothing else, it sounds enticing. Yeah. What?
Shall we. The fuck? Why?
Hey, it could be worse.
Lean too much. Whatever you've got. He's caught it from you.
Abiding hill's called, but Hindism. Yeah. Hello, mate.
Oh, there's been a. Have you seen the big kickoff in the dog training world with Uncle Bob and then the other guy?
I have not.
I don't really give it.
Come on.
Do you?
No, no. That's why I don't know about it, but. Go on, give me.
Oh, I think everyone's just doing a bit of waffling and like. Like virtue signaling and I might end up.
Yeah. Yeah. In the end.
Yeah. When all said and done.
In the end.
When all said and done. Come on, boys.
Yeah, Come on. Yeah, I get it.
If virginity was a job, you wouldn't be. It wouldn't be far off.
Yes.
Gonna be honest. Bum bag. Come on. Let's think about it, guys. Yeah, it's not that. It's not really that deep.
No.
Which was gonna lead me on to my final point, which was something about dogs, but it's completely vacated my mind.
All right, for another day, then. Till another day.
Yeah. No, I had a point. That's gone. It's gone for another day.
Yeah.
Oh, maybe it was a story.
What do you mean, maybe it was a story? You must. You must know. It's a story. The narrowing of the eyes. One of the funniest things I've ever seen happen this morning.
Surely not.
Yep.
Go on.
Happened to you. Cobes Toy knee.
Oh, yeah. Cob. Mr. Toy bit me in the knee and it really hurt him and I
wish we had it on camera.
Really hurt.
Yeah, it looked like it did too.
It hurt you now. That's right. Yeah. I really think I've got a mark. We'll check if there's a mark.
Yeah, that'd be funny.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Obviously he didn't mean it. He.
Yeah, but it did hurt.
Ouchy.
Yeah. Imagine if one, like, really tried to get you. It really. You wouldn't any good at all. No.
Nips.
Yeah. Would not be good at all. No. I've lost my point again.
It's okay.
So close.
It's okay.
It doesn't want to force it out.
No.
It would ruin it, wouldn't it?
Yeah, I would.
You made a good Point about found it nice. It was about obedience.
All right, go on any.
This is so boring. I'm so glad this isn't a dog training podcast. Like, as it's going to come out of my mouth, I would turn it off. Yeah, come on in.
Spit it out.
Well, I think one of the benefit the unnoticed or maybe benefits of obedience is. I know, I know.
I'm just being a. I'm just being a.
No, no, no. I'm on same page. Yeah, I'm completely the same page. Who gives a. One of the benefits of obedience that is underestimated is the fulfillment element of problem solving. Like, it's just me.
Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Like you do a lot of obedience of the dog.
You.
Yeah, granted, fucking paw is useless, but teaching a dog how to give paw is better than doing nothing with the dirt.
Yeah, I agree. And I think when you're using, dare I say it, indirect reward, I think there is a relationship building thing of. Sometimes you do some shit for me before the thing comes out because that can create problems in itself.
There you go.
We went crazy at the end there. Dog trailers.
There you go. Canine Optima.
Yeah. Optimus Prime. He basically. Optimus Prime. Does that make us the Decepticons then? Yeah. It must be the black T shirts. Bigger.
Yeah, bigger. He's still adamant, I'm sure. And I've sent him actually evidence at this point and he's still fucking done believers.
Do you know what? Do you know? There's a really easy way to solve this. Big Mike's coming over. You get a shot next to Big Mike.
Nice shoeless. And yeah, Mike is a yardstick.
And then he can get shot with Big Mike shoeless.
And we'll see who fares.
And we can see who fares the best.
Yeah. And Michael Owens will already be barefoot.
Yeah.
His vibe, isn't it grounding though? Yeah, Just boot cut jeans, barefoot. Woodstock 6 to 9 T shirt.
Fair enough. And so he does it.
Ponytail.
So he makes it work.
I'm gonna get him for when he stays here a pie. I'll be probably. I don't want to spoil the surprise, but I have a sneaky feeling Michael Ennis might not listen to this fucking waffle today.
There's a chance.
I have a sneaky feeling.
I think we'll be okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Bigger surprises of people that listen to it. Who, Joan?
Yeah. True, actually. It's actually, that is true. That was wild.
So a young, sprightly Michael. You never know.
Yeah, he's hip, he's down with the kids.
He's Jeez, he's got chipper.
Oh. Oh, there he is.
Rage.
He just wants a sip of the goal then. Oh, yeah, there he is.
I have all little lumps and bumps.
A few cut off this, I'm sure.
Anyway. Yes.
You said you were gonna get him.
Oh, I'm gonna get him a Birth of the UK book. Oh, nice set of binos.
Okay. Yeah.
Just so he can.
Whilst he's here.
Yeah. And a doobie.
Yeah.
Two freshly bold ones.
Yeah, fair enough. There's a kid at the end of my street does those all the time.
Oh, yeah, nice.
Rogue spaniel. Basov. Basophilia.
Right. We'll leave it there.
Yeah.
Awfully sorry for giving you next to no dog trainer stuff.
It was an erratic podcast, that one.
Watching it. So I don't really. There's no kind of correlation depending on like what we talk about and views and shit like that. So I don't really. Unless Michael Ellis comes on.
That makes sense though, because like, you don't know what's in it until you have watched all this in it.
Yeah.
So it would only. It's like reinforcement. You only predict what's gonna happen in the future, not in the moment. So if you are here, dogs in
that, all we can really say is that we're sorry.
Yeah. I'm truly sorry. Especially for some of the stuff earlier when we were talking about ladies and.
Yeah. And particularly Shark Week stuff again. Like, I don't even think we need to finish this podcast, get canceled and then apologize. I think we'll just apologize now.
Yeah. Okay.
And then it can stay in.
Yeah, Fair enough.
We're sorry about the shark roof stuff.
We.
Not necessarily. All women sink up.
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission, as they say.
Something like that. It works in those things.
Yeah.
I believe most instances.
Good range. There he is.
He's awkward, isn't he?
Yeah. Works for him though. It works for him though, because then people ask what's wrong with him and they pay him a particular attention.
Yeah. Yeah.
What's up with that?
Weird.
He's just working the angle.
Yeah, that's true. Maybe you do a bit of that.
Maybe. No, I'm genuinely terrified of people reflection. Genuinely terrified.
The mirror there. Maybe.
Maybe it's just a cry for health therapy.
Maybe you are crying for help, projecting yourself.
Yeah, maybe.
Could be food for thought from not any therapists listening.
Imagine if people did that.
You could probably get a different job. Because if you a therapist, maybe you're listening to this. There must be something wrong with you two. If you could maybe try the diagnosing where we can have some clarity on what's going on there.
Could take 10 to 15 years, I imagine.
Yeah, that would be super helpful for us in terms of building him a path to new fold.
Okay. All right.
There you are. I think we're wrapping up there, dude.
Yeah, fair enough. Wrap her up and send her away. All right.
Again, hope you've enjoyed the podcast. We're going to record another one at some point. By him.
By him.
