Are you Manifesting inside your relationships
23 Sept 2024 · 95 min
This is a Date Your Wife podcast episode (hosts Garrett/ Danielle White with guests Peter and Caitlyn) exploring how manifestation practices and spiritual routines (including a ‘Bible stack’ and ‘prayer stack’) intersect with intimate relationships. The episode covers the couple’s origin story (meeting around Burning Man/Ibiza/Estonia), Caitlyn’s grief after her brother’s death, how manifestation and consistent standards shaped their partnership, and how energy, routines, and sex (Kundalini language) function as avenues for connection and growth. The tone is candid, spiritual, and practical—mixing personal anecdote with relationship guidance.
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Well, it's another episode of date your wife podcast, and today we're going to talk about Bible stack, prayer stack, chicken and rice.
Here we go.
Here we go. And we've got our guests already jumping on the mic, didn't we? For cue at all. She was like, you said chicken and rice. That was my cue on it.
I'm here for the party.
All right, you guys, we have a couple special guests here on the day you write podcast. And. Okay, I actually had Caitlin o' Toole on a month ago on my BMS podcast, and it was amazing. So we were like, who's this crazy guy you're with? And we're like, wait, let's bring Peter on.
That's me.
And we're gonna do a day right Podcast. So here we are. But Garrett really wants to share his song about chicken and rice.
No, no, no, no, no. That show, we gotta save that for later. We can't just come out of it. Okay, so we're gonna start off. We're gonna ride off the deep end. Who saw who first? Peter, did you see Caitlyn first? And Katelyn see you? Like, what? What? Who actually locked in and noticed the other person first?
Same time. I mean, we both walked in the room kind of same time.
You walked in the same rock and the room had never met each other before? No.
We were in Ibiza.
Yeah.
I actually think I saw Peter at Burning Man.
There you go. Really?
Yeah. Because I remember seeing this, like. Like, blondish hair slicked back with these big glasses, and just, like, for a moment, it like, me because he was at my camp, and then I never saw him again.
Got it.
But I think that was you.
Did you see her at Burning Man?
No.
Were you at Burning Man?
I was at man specifically to find the one, and I was looking all over for her, and she was living at my camp.
Y.
And I didn't see her. There was, like, 60 people at my camp for seven days. Missed it.
She was, like, out paying people, hiring.
Found a manifestation coach. Hired her. But no.
So this was. Okay, so let's back up. So the manifestation coach, did this happen before? Before you went to Burning Man?
It was happening at Burning Man.
Yeah.
Found a manifestation coach.
Okay. Did you know the manifestation coach?
No. No idea. It was like we both kind of set the same intention. I had just lost my brother. I was driving into Burning man, and I was on the phone with my mom, and I was like, I can't feel my heart. I. I can't feel love. Like, I don't even Know what it feels like right now? I was so broken. And I set this intention. Like I just want to feel love. I just want to feel it again. I want to feel happy. And I let it go. And yeah, I go to Burning Man. Peter was at my camp. 60 people, he didn't see me. But that's where you found a manifestation coach.
Sometimes it's right underneath your nose. You can't even see it.
Yeah.
So the manifestation coach, was she part of the camp?
No, she was in a different camp.
Okay, so you found her in a different camp. So you go, I love this. This is how. This is how guys are though. Like, okay, I'm looking for the let me find manifestation coach. Only to bring her right back to my front door. And there she was. Okay, so it's so true. Oh, yeah, we already met. I know her. She was sitting right by you.
I was there the whole time. He was just going out looking for me.
You were so focused on like, just finding the one instead of being present. So you missed her.
Oh, I don't know.
Who knows what it was? There's lots of little things. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I definitely remember having a meditation in the temple. And I remember this beautiful piano song coming on that I was just meditating. Meditating to. Is amazing. And then I find out that was dedicated to her brother. And she was in the room while I was eyes closed, meditating, imagining a one. She's like, hello.
Don't have to.
So there's multiple of these things.
Yeah, there's so many times.
There's lots of those.
Yeah. We are at the same place at the same time. Never met.
Okay. So the story continues to get better. I mean, I like it. Okay. It's like, so I'm going to Burning man to find the one. I have to go find the manifestation coach. She's in camp. We go find the coach who ultimately brings you back to her. That's in the camp, but not that time. Then you're sitting in the temple while meditating to the song dedicated to her brother. And she's in the temple, but your eyes are closed this time.
Yes.
Good thing you got the manifestation coach. Cuz all she had to do is.
Say, open your eyes.
Open your eyes, Peter. She right there.
Peter. Found her.
Need these things.
Wired her money on the fly. There's no Internet. Like, it's Burning Man. But somehow he found somebody's like, sat.
Hunted down, Wi Fi. And I wired her money. 15 grand.
Yeah.
Okay, so then you, at this point, your brother had passed away. Tell us a little bit about that.
What happened about Sean. Yeah, Sean just. Sean was one of those freak things. Well, you know, I think his soul was ready to go. Ultimately, he went to bed and never woke up. And so it was completely unexpected. And we're 18 months apart, so it was devastating.
This is. This isn't your normal family either. This is, like the most hardcore family family.
Yeah. So it was really hard. And that being said, I felt like my brother went to. You know, it's all energy. So he went to heaven or the other side or wherever he was. And I felt like he literally scoured the earth and was like, who can I find to love her through this? And so it wasn't. And then obviously, like, two months later, I actually met Peter. And it was, like, in this, like, instant calming. And my brother's eyes are, like, these really pretty green. They look like Peter's. It was kind of freaky at first. I'm like, I can't drink around here. This is weird. Like, it was. Yeah, but, you know, it's kind of like those things in life. Like, you have the lowest of lows, and then somehow, like, you. You come out of it, and you come out of it different, and there's blessings on the other side. But it was hard. And I met Peter, like, going through this transition, so it wasn't like this romantic love story. It was like, I was a mess.
Oh, yeah. And I wasn't tight with my family either, which was highly disrespectful to Caitlyn.
Did you guys bond in. In pain? In a way.
Did we bond in pain? Well, I saw her. She was immediately very special and very magical. I thought she was dating this superstar actor, famous actor that she was with when I met her. So I wasn't even trying to hit on her. And then I was just like, she had this cool video stuff. She was interested in some video work that I was doing, so I was like, I want to help you. So I. She flew out to Estonia so I could help her with, like, some video camera work.
And she ended up being totally platonic at first because. So to. To fill in the gap, Peter gets this manifestation coach. He does two. He. He hires her for three months to do, like, soul work.
Yes.
Right.
Deep soul work.
Yeah, absolutely.
Clear on the person you're calling into your life. That's step one.
Okay.
Yeah.
The set, there's three steps. Ask, which is getting clear on everything you want about the specific person or whatever situation that you're in. Seek, which is getting clear on the exact feeling of the life that. Imagine that you already have this person in your life right now. Seek the emotion, feels if you had it, and then knock, which is persistently doing that over and over again. And that's what we were practicing.
Yeah, that's what he's practicing. So we both go. So the Burning man group has a five year wedding anniversary and Ibiza. So all we were at the same camp. So we were invited even though we didn't meet. So this is how we actually wound up meeting is I. I was actually on my way to Nepal because I was going to. I met this Tibetan monk and he was going to do this celebration of life at his monastery for my brother. So I fly to New York and as I'm in, like, literally I'm. I have a like overnight layover. And I get this strong intuitive feeling that I have to go to Ibiza. But like my, I have my luggage, like it's packed for a monastery. Totally different vibe. And I get this strong feeling like I have to go to Ibiza. I had like one of my best friends going, but analytically it felt wrong because I was like, I don't want to go party. But my gut was like, go. So I call my mom because she's on her way to meet me. And I was like, don't get on the plane. I'm gonna go to Ibiza. And she's like, okay, baby, go. And then I like fly to London. My friend that was going, who's an actor, who I wound up walking in with. And Peter sees him, recognizes him and is like, oh, she's dating this guy.
Oh, but you weren't dating him?
No, we were just friends. But he was like, and that's check. Like it's not her.
But that's when you first notice each other.
That's how we walked in.
Yeah.
Like I walk into the hotel, first person I see.
Yes, yes. And the two people we were with were having their wedding. They just got engaged. So everyone was celebrating. So all of a sudden we were celebrating together Instantly.
Yeah. Instantly, yeah. It's like all this like love, like everywhere.
It was instant love energy from just.
Watching her walk in with high value actor. Does this increase her value in your eyes the way?
For sure, yeah. I was like, I mean, there were like, there were guys hitting on her. And I was like, I was, I was not putting her in like the hit on stage at all. And I was like, this guy, like, there's one guy I talked to was talking to her for like three hours and Then he gets done, and I'm like, bro, nice work talking to Caitlyn, dude. That's like, good job on you. Like, damn. Nice. Nice work, bro. Good for you. It's like, yeah, that's gonna be my wife one day.
Oh, really?
Good for you.
Well, I haven't. I'm still looking for the one. I'm not sure where she is. Maybe go for it.
I got a plan. I have a call with my coach. In that moment, I already had the one.
Listen, Peter operates a lot like I do, too. We get locked into. The reason why I joke on this because I get locked into things like this, too. With Danielle. I spent probably 13 years that we were married before I had my moment of opening my eyes and really realizing who this woman was. And then it's really only been the last two years and shit. We've got five kids. That I was able to see her at a soul level the way you guys have described. You've kind of met in the beginning. Like, it was.
Was just.
We just came from a different place. We were not meeting. We did not meet in Ibiza. We were not hanging out.
We met so young. Like, we. I was 18. He was 25.
Yeah.
So we definitely had that moment where we, like, saw each other, and there's that.
That.
There's that instant connection. I do believe when you don't even know somebody and you look them in their eyes and you're like, you don't. It's like you've said everything, you know? So I think that everybody, when they. They have that moment with whoever their significant other is where it's just. You literally just look at them, and that's all you need to do. But then you, obviously, for Garrett and I, how do you keep looking at your significant partner? The same way you did you first. When you first met him. Right. So that's, I believe, the trick in marriage, and I believe genuinely that you have to work on yourself and continue to evolve and reinvent yourself so they can look at you like, holy. Like, it's. It's almost like new all over again. But it's like your soul is becoming who you are. It's manifesting on the. On the outside. So they can look at you and be like, that's who I've always seen, like, even with Garrett, like, getting bigger this year, and, like. Like, you know, he's not used to this body. And it's funny because I'm like, I've always seen you that way. Right. And it's because that's Kind of how he's showing up. So in marriage, I always say, how do you recreate that spark where you can look at him and just know that's your person?
I love that so much. I think that's so important and true. And we're always evolving. Like. And when you say you didn't see her at first, but, like, we're at a different state of consciousness. Like, who you are now.
Yeah.
Is so different. And I think you always have to grow and evolve. And I'd say that was something that, with Peter is. I was so broken, guys. Like, I was not. Okay.
Really broken.
Yeah. And yet, like, I couldn't understand why he was so nice to me and how he liked me, because I was so used to basing my value on external things. Like, you know, coming from a successful career in New York and being on camera and. And having all of these accolades, like, that's what I thought made me worthy. And so when I had nothing, like, no job, nothing going on, I remember him being like, where's your laptop? And I was like, I don't have one. And he was like, like, destroy. We're going to Apple right now. But, like, I was. I just couldn't understand how he could like me or even love me.
I think that's a good thing to touch on, like, for women is we base our value off of our external looks.
Yes.
And if that's all the depth you have, then that's sad. You know what I mean? And when you're in a dark place, you're like, that's all you really see. The more certain than the confident you become. It's like, that's really what people see. Like, they're like, this is a pretty shell.
Yeah.
But, like, what they really see is your energy. That's like, one of the things I connected with you is, like, it wasn't. Yes, you're gorgeous, but it's like, you can sense when people, like, their energy is just, like, on fire, you know? And so it's probably good that Peter came along and helped pull that back out of you to help you find. You know, like you said, you base yourself on this external shell, and you're like, I'm so much more than this. And he saw that in you.
Yeah. And I was like, I don't even have a job. He's like, well, we could change that. Like, we can do. He was helping me in the moment. Like, he was, like, totally not hitting on me. He was just, like, running around with this camera, and he's like, you can, you know, I'll. I'll teach you what I'm doing. You can get back out there, like, you can be okay. And I was like, but I thought, what's happening?
So what were you, what were you seeing? I mean, obviously you were attracted to her. You thought she was hot, period. That's a guy thing. But you are in a different mode. So what was the mode you were in at that time?
Well, the, the event we were at is called this. It was this group of people called Saga, which is like a very heart centric community. It's all about love. And Caitlyn just had the biggest heart ever there for sure. She had the biggest heart in the entire room. And she was de. Her story was deeply like, oh my gosh. You could tell she was recovering from something, right? She doesn't like hide it up. She like, I'm sorry, I just lost my brother. I'm like trying to this, that and like, so you can tell she's really going through stuff and she really doesn't really have a plan going on. And I just got a huge like, you gotta, you gotta help this person kind of thing. You got to help just like, you just really have to help this person right now and just like take care of them because they're just endless boundless potential inside of this person.
It wasn't about like dating me at first, was it? Right. You weren't like zero.
Right.
I zero thought about the whole thing.
Kindness.
Right. It was just helping getting a bit you back in the get your stuff going on. You know, there were a lot of little signs. You know, there were a lot of like, little moments. Like I was, I was starting, I had to like do a podcast for these group of women copywriters. And I was going to teach them to be peace angels, to like write copy to create peace. But I was secretly calling it like Pete's Angels, right? To make be hilarious, like have these bunch of girls. And then Caitlyn became my like, first I told a story to her and she became my first Pete's angel. And then she became Pete's angel. So there's a lot of little moments like that where I was like.
Which he had like an affirmation like, she will be Pete's Angel. Like he would have these affirmations written out that I would like, say something that matched. It was freaky guy. It was actually a little freaky at first.
Yeah. Angel was on my affirmations.
Did you like that he showed up as just like the nice guy, the safe Guy.
Yeah, I was. Oh, yeah. I was so grateful, like.
But when did you. When did it turn over and you're like, I just really want to make out with you. Like, stop being so nice.
Okay.
So we were.
Oh, that was a while.
It was a while.
We.
We were actually.
No, it was day four of Vishen's house.
That wasn't that long, I guess. Well, we spent all the time.
Four days.
No, it was weeks that we hooked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we had known each other. We went on this trip to Ibiza. Nothing happened there. We stayed in contact. He's like, come to Estonia. I'm talking to my best guy friends, and I'm like, I hope he doesn't try to hit on me. Like, you know, this will be awkward. I, like, barely know him that, like, that much. But then, I don't know, he was just so nice. And there was just this moment, I guess it was four days, we were in Estonia together and.
Yeah.
But it was just like. You just, like, kissed me on the couch.
Oh. She flew to Estonia, and the second that she got there, it was like, boom, boom, boom. Event, event, event. Thing. Thing. It was just like, the universe was just like, popping the super fun things happening, like, instantly, like Halloween parties and going out with this guy, and this thing just happened. So it was like.
And we were filming this documentary together. So I flew to a studio.
That's what happened.
And then he.
I had a big documentary shoot coming up. I was teaching her how to do video. She was phenomenal with it. I had to go to, like, London and New York and Amsterdam to London. And then I'm like, I only have me and my camera. I'm like, why don't you join me on this trip across the world to, like, go film this thing? She's like, okay. So next thing we know, we're living together in hotels, bouncing around. And I thought it was impossible to date anybody because I was living out of a suitcase, right. Traveling all over the place.
So, yeah. His parents were always like, well, when are you going to stop traveling so you can meet somebody?
Yeah.
And there I was like, I got my own bag.
It was crazy. Touched right along, you know?
But the timing of it, right?
It was so divine. Like, it was so. And he was so nice. I remember, like, I still had my, like, backpack from Burning Man. That was like, guys, I was not. Well, I was not. I was barely getting by. I was just like. It took like.
She had never done squats before.
Okay, okay, there's that, too. But I meant More like I was going through grief. Peter was like, where's your sneakers? I was like, I don't have any.
Like, these are my heels.
Like, I'm great in them.
I remember we went candy all the time.
Yeah, I was. I was. Yeah. Well, I had gone through being very sick for 10 years of, like, a very strict diet. And then I healed, and then not too long after that, my brother passed. So I went through this phase of being like, my body's okay. I can eat everything. And then I went through, like, complete grief, where you're just like, anything to just get through the day. But I remembered Peter just being so nice. He just wanted to help me. I. Like, I didn't have a computer. He's like, let's go get you one. And I'm like. And I had dated people, whereas before, it was like, if you do this, then you get this.
Yeah.
Like, very conditional.
Right?
So I was like, what's his.
What's his angle?
I just didn't understand. He got me a computer. Like, my. My purse broke, and he's like, okay, let's go. What do you like? Like, I really like Yves on Ron. Do you like that? Do you like schnut? Like, what? I was like, I'm like, I'm not even.
No, I don't like any of those.
I was like, I hate all.
Maybe you should go see what they have.
I don't know.
But I remember him just, like, treating me. Unbelievable. Better than any guy I'd ever dated. And I wasn't even dating him.
Yeah.
And I just. And it was a very big internal shock of, like, worthiness. Like, why do I deserve this? Why is he being so nice to me? Like, I kept asking, like, is my. Like, sean, is this you? Is my brother looking out for me? I don't know. He just was so nice.
Did you want to push him away? Because you're like, I see. Seems like, like, what is he.
Oh, my God. She broke up with me twice.
No, I didn't.
Hard breakup. She says, no, a thousand percent. I was like, I go to my coach. I'm like, it's over.
Twice.
I'm like, it's definitely over.
Well, Peter is very intense, so he'll be like, you're doing great, but, you know, you could be better. And he would just say, like, very intense things. I wasn't used to say.
It's lambos or nothing.
Yeah. Remember one day he told me, you got to know that the Peter is the one in our mastermind, where he will be chanting when Somebody's talking about their wife and her, like, not being in check with her body and not really handling things. And it'll be like, hey, no Nissan's. No Nissan's. No Nissan's Lambos.
Or.
That's it. That's our floor. That's our floor.
That's literally what he told me. So imagine, like, we start dating and, like, we go. We finish this trip after, like, destroying. We finished the trip, like, of filming. And then Peter, on last day, asked me to be his girlfriend. And he's like, let's celebrate. And I was like, okay. Yeah. And he's like, what do you want to do? And I was like, I don't know. He's like, well, pick anything. I'm like, anything. And we're in Amsterdam. He's like, anything. And I was like, well, I always wanted to go to the Christmas markets in Switzerland. He's like, done. Books a flight. Next thing you know, we're, like, going to Switzerland. And I was like, what is my life right now? But, like, we had. We'd have these magical moments, but then he would say things like, oh, okay.
This was a roller coaster from the best day of my life to the worst day of my life, over and over again. It was like, I have never made somebody so happy or somebody so angry in my entire life. At the same time, it's the same person.
Sounds about right.
Right?
It was like, I'm barely talking to my sisters, naturally, and she lost her brother. So just, I'm the biggest dick in the world for the way that I'm treating my family. And then she doesn't have a laptop and is completely not working on a purpose at all.
And he's pissed, right?
I'm pissed about that.
We're so opposite that it would be like his sister had a baby. And I'm like, oh, my God. Congratulations. Like. Like, what is he like? And he's like, I don't know. I haven't met him. I'm like, how old is he? He's like, he's like one and a half. I'm like, what, Peter? Like, you have to go meet your sister's baby. What is wrong with you? Because I would do anything to pick up the phone and call my brother.
Yeah.
So it was like, these crazy extremes. And. And then he would say things like, you know, I feel like you could be a Lambo, but you're a Nissan Ultima. And I would be like, ironically, that was my brother's first car. That was a weird statement. But he would say, These, like, in. Once you get to know Peter, it's like, I see so much in you. I love you. I want to support you.
But he's standard.
But he would say these jarring things at a time where I'm like. My heart would start to heal, and then he would, like, break it open and I'd be like. And then it was this.
I think the guys do that, though. They. They think they're helping or they. Yeah, it's like. It's almost like they think it's a compliment.
You're like, you.
You just told me I'm a Nissan. He's like, no, baby, I want you to not be a Nissan.
I didn't. We're, like, in a hotel in London. I didn't know what to do. I just, like, went in the hallway and cried, and I was like, I could call my dad. I don't know what to do right now.
Like, I think it's because he sees the potential in you based off of, like, your soul and your heart. And it's not just about look. So, like, even though, like, you're you. He told me this about the warrior event. I was like, that's kind of mean. But it's not just about the external. It's about developing yourself. It's about growing. It's like you're using the comparison as a Nissan to a Lamborghini. But. And most people might listen to him. He's like, what a dick. But you're like, no, no, no. It's a standard. It's like, I expect something out of you that he already sees and knows is there. So for you not to accept that he's pushing that and pulling that out of you, same thing happens with Garrett and I. You know, it's like we constantly are holding each each other to a higher standard. That's how we've been able to keep our marriage for 21 years and how we've grow together. But I will say, from even my perspective, sometimes it comes across a little bit bitchy.
That's what I love about you. It's. It's the standard or get the out. Yeah, but it's not just.
But it's not just money and cars, right?
No, it's the whole thing.
Who you. Who you are and who you become in doing that.
And the money in cars.
Yeah, that's part of it. But then you get to the point even where you. You're like, you built the life.
Yeah.
And then you're like, there's still something missing. Right. I know a lot of rich people are very unhappy.
Yeah.
So it's to. It's to understand that. That that concept is about more than just money. The money will come. I believe you're. If you're pursuing your passion and your purpose, the money will come.
And if you market and sell.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, again, anyway. But what I'm saying is, like, it's more than that, and it's.
So listen, Kate, I'm going to help you feel okay with this and let you know that Peter is my twin brother. He's just more Elon Musk smart. And I'm. I'm more like Joe Rogan smart. Joe Rogan smart.
Both equally smart.
Like, the new, new Netflix series is like his comedy special.
He's like Elon Musk and his dog. I'm the dog.
He's joking around. He's like, yeah, Elon Musk, like, really close to Elon. He's like, real good friend, but he's like, stupid smart. He's like, like, if you were to compare Elon Musk, he, like, he's talking about himself with Elon. He's like, if you were to compare our relationship, I'm more like the golden retriever. And he's like a person. He's the person.
He's the person.
So he says, really smart shit. I don't even know what he was saying. And I'm just.
Just like, yeah, let's go outside together.
All right, you guys, quick interrupt. First off, thank you so much for listening to this podcast. I hope that you're getting a ton of value. Garrett and I started doing this probably about five years ago, and we love sharing more of our story. If you are interested in fashion, fitness, hair, I would definitely encourage you to check out my blog@DanielleKWhite.com I'm the creator of Naturally to Grow Hair Extensions, but I have five beautiful daughters and a crazy story. So to follow along again, check out Danielle K. White dot com.
So I told Danielle and I when we were first dating, Danielle, I was. Said things like this too. So Danielle said when we had first dating, if I had babies and I put on weight and I didn't lose it.
No, there was like, I remember when we were dating, we were pretty serious, and I was like, you know, when I have kids and this and that, it probably. I just made the reference of, like, having a mom body and like, in the sense I just didn't take care of myself, I'm like, you know, I'll probably gain a little weight and this kind of thing. And his comment back was like, oh, no, that's not exceptional. And I was like, no. Like, if after babies, like that happens, he's like, no, that's not acceptable. And I was like, huh? And like to this day, I was like, so offended. But I'm like, oh, no. He's like, he's like, I got this cute wife and that's my standard. I was like, okay.
She didn't work out when we first met.
Work out at all.
And she went to Zumba like once every nine weeks.
I didn't know that was a thing.
What is going on? We're in trouble. And then we all go into pregnancy or her first pregnancy and she puts.
On, well, the thing. Well, what I realized after I like gained all the way from on my first baby, I was like, oh, I don't feel like me and I don't want to keep this on anyway. So it wasn't like, like a big deal. But that was like his standard. Same thing. When I married him, I was like, I expect you to be successful. Like, I saw his personality. I saw who he was, even though he was like finishing college. My mom was like, so nervous that I'm, you know, engaged to this guy who's like making no money. Like, drove around the biggest piece of car you've ever seen. That's another story. Like, worse than like he bought it for like $1,000 or something. And his hubcaps were falling off every other day. But I, I didn't see that. I didn't see this guy who had this broken ass car that I don't even know if it was a brand. It was that old. It was like, it's a Dodge Spirit. It was a do Spirit, but it was so old. But I didn't see that. I saw who he was meant to become. Like, I saw that in him. So it would be a disservice for me not to push him to who I know he already is.
Yes. So 100. So it's literally like you, It's. You must become the best version of yourself or you're dead to me.
It's kind of like that kind of a little bit.
So that like keeps the line really solid, I think.
But it's.
Patrick David and his wife have a conversation every year. They sit down once every year around Christmas and they decide if they're in for another year.
Hey, really?
Yeah. And he's big time. And they. But he's like, I love, Like, I watched him talk all about this. Like, it's, it's not that we're gonna get divorced every year. It's just we're. We're coming to the table. We're saying, how have you shown up this last year? Am I still number one? And that's like. Keith and I are having a couple conversations, too. And I've told Danielle this, too. The minute I'm no longer your number one choice, go, go, go get number one. But I think if I'm not it, then this motherfucker is a monster. And I want. I'd like to meet him, too. Maybe I'll be his friend, and then you guys can have a great rest of your life like this. But this standard piece, it's complicated, and you guys are playing it out of the gate on each other. We were not playing it out of the gate.
We didn't. Like, we got married so young. Like, we. That's why we drifted apart, because we were growing in different directions. And so we are. I mean, magically, somehow, we're still married. But I think it's because, like, we. We had kids together. We recognize as we were drifting, and it took us, like, you know, five, six, seven, eight years to kind of come back together. And now we're kind of almost like back in that connective space when we first were, like, together, which is kind of cool. You know, there's a lot of people that get divorced, they call it quits way too soon. And it's because both partners have to be willing to grow together and simultaneously on their own. If you don't do that, you will just be in different. It'll be like talking to. There's no connection because you're in different frequencies.
Yeah.
That's my biggest pet peeve is staleness in somebody when I'm growing like a crazy. And they're just talking about the same shit they talked about 10 months ago.
Yeah.
I'm like.
Yeah. I think at first it was, like, triggering, especially, like, the state I was in. And now I'm so grateful because, you know, it takes somebody sometimes holding a vision.
Right.
You know, it takes somebody believing in you so much when you can't see it yet or when you're in. You're in a low point of your life. And so I like the idea of checking in with some. I think that's. I mean, I think we check in a lot with each other.
Like, I mean, I have to check in with me. I'll tell you.
Yeah, he'll just tell me.
I don't know.
I'm getting Christmas to let you know.
That's True. But I think then it becomes fun, and it's like, you know, now we go to bed, like, every couple nights, and we're like, what do you like? I mean, we know what we're working on. But he'll ask, like, okay, what are you creating? Or I'm like, what's the best thing that can happen? Even as we're driving here, it's like, what's our intention for this? What's the greatest value can add? You know? And now we look at life through a lens together, but there's moments where, like, doubt creeps in, and I'm right there to be like, there's no room for that.
Yeah. Yeah.
I believe in you, and vice versa. And so had he didn't have that standard or say those things, maybe I wouldn't have known how communication could be or how authentically we could speak to each other. Now, like, I know if something is wrong with Peter or if he's not happy, and I would much rather have that than be guessing. And I. I love that he's clear and concise, and he does a much better job now of putting it in a way that doesn't hurt my family.
Feelings as much, which I'm. Great how you frame it.
Yeah.
Now it's very important for men to understand how you frame it.
Yeah.
Like, I don't think he, at first, like, totally understood what he meant. Really hurt my feelings. Much better way to phrase it. And now he does a really good job of, like, Right.
Doing that.
Yeah.
This kid who. Is Peter as reactive as you?
No, no, no. Peter does. The. Peter's like.
He's. He says you guys are similar, but you seem a lot more chill.
He's so calm.
Okay.
He is. He's Elon Musk. Calm killer.
Okay.
He's so cool. Strategically planned for yelling, and I. I can go crazy. Like, you don't ever, like, yell at me.
Not like. Not like.
Like, you're. You would say something kind of dry and be like, I didn't know that was rude. Or, you know, like. But you don't seem, like, very reactive. Like, you seem pretty, like.
No.
Mellow.
Well, I mean, I definitely believe in, like, putting people on hot coals and letting them run faster so they can run faster. You know? That makes sense.
Right?
Just lighting the ground on fire so they have to move right now, you know, Regardless.
Yeah. That's more like. Yeah.
Like.
Peter will say the things that, like. Like, we had a friend who is really talented and very smart in nutrition, and Peter was just like, bro, look at your body. I would never listen to you. They're not going to listen to you. And, like, there's so much truth to that because. But we're all like, oh, my God.
I can't believe that.
That's so mean.
Yeah, yeah. But that's how women think. Yeah, yeah.
But it, like, really sparked something in him.
Yeah.
He was like, you're right. And it's who you become. Like, when Peter asked me about working out at first and I didn't. Now it's like, I love going to the gym. I feel great. Like, I have the best days. I didn't know that existed. And because he held the standard that I then was like, well, let me.
Then you're like, I guess I do need this. Yeah.
Then I'm like, I love who I'm becoming. I love who I am. And so it's not always a negative. Like, sometimes we view it like, why don't you just accept me?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But also, why not you just be open to maybe some advice or trying different things or becoming a better version.
Yeah. Yeah. That's so true. We. We get almost offended when somebody's, like, trying to help you. Like, you're not happy here.
Yeah.
And it's like, well, no, I want you to grow. And you'll be happy, too, when you grow with me. So it's.
What.
What did I tell you the other day? I'm like. You're like, I'm so scared of not waking up. And I. Or, no.
What?
No. I told you. I said, I think you're afraid I'm.
Gonna wake up because he's always like, you know, he's. He's like, you just need to accept for me for who I am. And I'm like, oh, no, that will never fly with me. No. And I can't remember what I texted.
Caitlyn and I might be more similar. That's why we look like the Easter eggs here during this podcast.
Hey.
Caitlin's like, peter, that was really rude. I'm like, danielle, that was so. Why would you say it so critically like that?
A little softer. Come on.
I know.
I've actually had to work on that because my delivery sometimes, this podcast going.
On, I think you and Peter might be a lot.
My delivery sometimes. Not always the best. I do sometimes deliver things very dry. And then I'm like, that didn't get me what I wanted. But no, Garrett was like. Garrett was saying, like, are you scared of who? Like, me fully being asleep or.
I can't remember this is what I said. I said, I believe you are afraid of me being fully awake. And a party thinks I will leave you if I'm fully awake.
Like, conscious.
Yeah. Like, I'm like, at the top of my game, like, on all areas, all cylinders. Totally conscious that I would not tolerate our marriage anymore and leave. And she reframed me back and said, oh, no, I'm not afraid of you being fully awake and leaving me. I'm afraid of you being fucking asleep and doing things stupid and leaving me. I was like, well, she's not wrong about that one.
But it's. I mean, there's this piece where everybody. It's like, you can tolerate that in yourself. Especially, like, we've been married for so long. And there's things that I've been like, oh, that's not my personality. I'm introverted. I'm quiet. I'm not good with words of affirmation. I'm not good with, like, touchy feely. And that was, like, my story. And I was like, you know what? Like, that. That doesn't matter. I have to make this conscious effort in order to do these things that are not my personality, you know? And so it's like, when somebody's like, accept me for who I am, it's like. But you can retrain old patterns, behaviors, and, like, become a different version, especially for your significant other. If that's their love language, you have to cross that line, even if it's not something that you naturally do, you know? Like, you said, like, delivery and how you say it, you're like, oh, that hurt her feelings. I need to reframe how I say that. Because you care about her.
Yeah.
You're the best at this.
What?
Like, if I get into something, I'm upset with Peter about some kind of altercation, and I'm like, you make me feel this or this. I'm not kidding you. Like clockwork. That next morning, he is up at the crack of dawn, and there are affirmations. And it is exactly who I'm asking him to be. And it is written. And I, I, I. Caitlin enters the room, and I'm excited to see her, like. Cause I'll be like, Peter, you just walked by me. Like, hello, like, you gotta talk to me. I'm alive and I need attention. Like, and so then it will be like, I. I graciously and gladly give her intention. And like, you're so good, you. He's done so much work on himself. Like, I'll let you share, like, all of the things that You've done. And you're constantly. I admire that. There's no pushback. It's like, okay, that's important to you. I could change. And the way he does that, I'm. I'm the same way. I mean, he's an extreme. He's very good at it. Like, I'll be like, I'll get on that. And he's like, next morning affirmations. It's up. It's in the shower. It's on the whiteboard. He's got a call with somebody. He's working on it. And I'm like, he heard me. Thank you. And. But he changes, and I think that's the key. It's like, you can keep re. Let's. Karma. Right? Karma is just consciously making the same choices over and over again. And you're reliving the same day, and you're having the same conversation, you're having the same argument. Or you can just change. And then you get to move past that to the next part, and it gets more fun and more fun, in my opinion. Opinion.
When did you start the. When did you start this whole manifestation process? Because this. I mean, I sat and watched you take notes during, like, I don't know, Pride hour. I was sitting behind you watching Cullen and some of the other guys talking Savage. And you were. The way you structured your notes, even. I was like, this writes half his. In affirmations. I watch you take notes. And then you'll write declarative statements. Decorative. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. And then they'll be like, 92 I ams copy paste. Like, when did this become part of your world? And then I got a bunch of questions. We're gonna go off the deep end for both of you two as a couple, but I want to get to this one first because it keeps coming up. Right? And Caitlin just mentioned it. It's like a power position.
Yeah.
It's also something I'm leaning. Our whole group is leaning into you on it, too. It's like, for the first time ever in our group, I'll say, shit. And then I'm like, look at Peter. I'm like, did I say it the wrong way, dude? I'm like, what the fuck is happening? This has never happened in the history of my rooms ever. Yeah. So, Caitlin, I have. I have some understanding. He's got you nailed. You look like a blueberry and I look like an orange, and he's got us both. So talk to me. How did. How did this even start for you?
I mean, I never. I just never wanted to be in a spirituality. My parents held me underwater until I became Christian and then went to church a thousand times, and my life sucks. Felt like God didn't like me, so I spat it all out and kind of gave up on the whole thing. Then I just tried to get rich on the Internet, right? And I just thought I had to read every. I thought he didn't have skills. I read all the books and the marketing stuff and the copywriting stuff, and then I hit this glass wall. And then I was like, okay, subconscious mind. Read all the subconscious mind books. And then life just fell apart on its own. It would just randomly fall apart. Things would. I would start a business, get a first client, and the client would die, right? What the was that? So I was like, something was up with that. But I didn't really pick the pieces together until at the last. After sailing, failing seven businesses and getting evicted twice and getting my car repossessed, I, like, was like, on my friend's floor, read the book, Conversation with God. And that was the last book I read before my life took off. That was it. The way that he just spoke about God in the universe, I'm like, you have the. You have way more power to control over your reality than you think you do. And the only reason that you're trapped in this way is because you are. You are failing to identify as this higher version of yourself. It's as someone you want to be. It's not someone that you are now. And I just was on my friend's floor, and I'm like, it. I'm rich. I'm a rich guy trapped in a broke guy's body. I don't care what my reality says. I'm rich right now. And then I just started visualizing myself like that. And then all of a sudden, it was like, the seeds that I've been planting was now in good soil, and the seeds could grow and, like, magic could come together all of a sudden with this energy I was putting in, and just miracles would happen, and then I'd get a mentor. My life would explode. So I was like, what the was that? Right? So I was like, that was weird. But I got really into it, like, on a side thing, like, what was that? Why? Figure out what works? And that worked better than anything I'd studied. I was just going down it, and then this. And then I get some huge run, exit the skincare brand, lose all my money, right? I get $2 million. I run it up to $6 million. And drive it down to $300,000. And I'm like, I gotta manifest my way out of this, right? I'm still talking to God. I didn't feel like God was punishing me. It wasn't like. It was like I was on the right plan. This wasn't a punishment. This is something else. Like, I'm on. Everything's going perfectly, and I'm working on manifesting. I study Neville Goddard again, and I meet Vision and Mind Valley. And it works again for me, right? Like, every key moment, it worked again. It worked for this, right? I am totally committed to this Caitlyn relationship. And I can't get out of it unless Caitlin decides not to become a Lambo anymore and can't ascend to the level of a Bugatti.
That's the only pressure. No pressure. Sweet.
Outside of that, I'm completely cannot escape, right? I'm in it for real for a long time. So anyway, I'm. I'm talking. I'm building this brand. And I'm like, God, keep sending me a billion dollar idea. And I get this idea that I think it's a billion dollar idea. I'm building the brand. And then I'm doing this meditation. I'm like, okay, what do you want me to do after the brand? And he's like, well, the brand's good, dude. I tell you, the brand's fine. It's on autopilot. It's good. It's taken care of. I want you to get back into spirituality. I was like, why did what. What was the point of this business again? He was like, the point of being super rich in the business is just so that you could prove that this works at the highest level. Yeah, that was the whole point. Some guy, one time, he was like, oh, if manifestation was real, why don't you just make a billion dollars? And that just always stuck with me. Always stuck with me. That right? And I'm like, okay, if with God all things are possible, God runs through me left and right. Let's rip this thing. Let's just fucking put it out there. I am an AI billionaire. I had not just about to be an AI billionaire. I have been an AI billionaire since I was a baby, since I was born, right? This isn't like a it. This is like, I'm just like, I'm gonna test this out, just see what happens. I'm just gonna start visualizing this. I'm gonna put a sign up that's 10ft tall that says, thank you for giving me $1.7 billion that hangs up in my office every day. I'm just gonna vibrate it. I think the ideas that I get are just in line with whatever energy I'm putting out, right? Whatever I throw out, if I throw this idea out, will I get the idea back? Seems like it. I don't know. But I talked to God and God's like, dude, the business is going. It's blowing up. Everything's going fine, right? I need you to totally step away from the business and just do this spirituality manifestation. And that was it. And then I go to your thing, and you're talking about the Bible. And I'm like, I wanted to read the Bible. This doesn't work for me. It's rigged. It ain't rigged, right? Neville Goddard was constantly talking. I. I only. I was like, I'm only going to listen to Neville Goddard and Neil Donald Walsh because that's all that worked for me. And then Neville Goddard's talking about all these Bible verses. He's talking about how all these people have missed the secrets of the Bible because I think it's a history book and they haven't seen past what's underneath it in the parables, underneath these things, right? And he's telling these stories that I was like, fuck. So I've been. You tell me to read the Bible every day. I was just starting, like, okay, I need to start reading the Bible. Boom. You had a Bible on my desk first thing. Like, oh, my God. Bible stack, prayer stack. Like, this is it, right? So I've been ripping down this thing, and I was so wrong about so much stuff. I had a friend come over the other day. He's like, we're talking about divorce. He's like, the Bible says you can't get divorced. I was like, come on, God doesn't. God wouldn't care if Caitlin became a dude and I had a divorce, right? You wouldn't mind that. Relationship for that reason. I'm like, that the Bible's rigged. It's rigged. Oh, my God. I was just going through the Sermon on the Mount, and they're talking about adultery. That ain't about divorce. That's about you committing divorce with your subconscious mind. And you're having your conscious mind being off and your subconscious mind off. And you're visualizing this higher version of yourself, but your subconscious is like, no, that's not you. You're this under version. It's like the adultery is going against this higher version of yourself internally. That's what it is. And, like, it's all this stuff starts to make sense when I'm looking at this different an angle that this book is the dopest book ever written.
This fire, this fire, this fire that you're speaking about, this is this perception, this frame, this vibration. This is how everything shifts in relationship. Because you're expecting, we call push pull in our marriage. We're like, well, Danielle expects, like she'll raise her vibration. Like fitness raised her vibration. And like I was still just skinny surfer guy. I didn't care. And she kept raising her vibration and I kept showing up the way I was showing up and I was still making money and doing things. But she had risen that frame of who she saw herself to be. And that was the collision conversation with me, which is, hey, I love you. I've given you everything. I fuck you a ton. I've given you children. I'm beautiful, I'm sexy, I'm powerful. I make millions myself. And here's the deal. I can't feel you anymore. And because I can't feel you anymore, I can't be with you anymore. And I've been thinking about other men and being with a man who can see me for who I am, fully and wholly in my power. And you better figure your out. And then the worst was, she's my own line on me. If the king doesn't rise, the kingdom dies. But she added her little tidbit. And don't worry, the queen leaves with the children before it burns.
That's such a banger. Such a banger.
Holy Peter, are twins. Caitlyn would have never said that to me.
Dropping the bomb.
You know what, though?
She Nissan me on that one.
I was like, I can't connect with him anymore. And I wasn't like threatening to leave. I was like, we will part ways because we're not on the same frequency. And I don't will not tolerate that in my. Myself. So it's not even like, oh, I don't tolerate that in you. It's like, I will not tolerate that in myself.
Like, yeah, you won't tolerate being with a guy who's being this way, knowing who you are.
It's so much bigger than exterior. Like, if you could just like this is the illusion. It's energy. Like, you literally cannot, you cannot feel somebody when you're at a different frequency. Yeah, you just. There's. It doesn't work. It's off. Like there's times like I've said to Peter, like, I'm like, I love you, but I have to lower myself to connect with You. And I don't like how it feels because I'm vibing up here and I'm like, oh, my God, life, this. And I'm like. And then my heart is just like. Because it's just not a vibrational match, right? And like, that's not mean. That's science. That is, like, real. That is so real. And it's not like a threat. And it's not anything. It's just like, hey, we gotta raise you.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, and it ultimately, it's like, I don't think there's anything wrong with this because ultimately, God exists at the highest frequency. Yeah. And we should all be striving to be one. We should all be striving to live there. And that's divinity. That's heaven on earth. And it's not this mean thing like, you should be at the gym or you should do that, or you need more money. It's like, I am evolving, right? And I have divinity inside of me. It is me. And I am going home to the Creator, to source. Please come with me. Please. Like, I don't want to leave you. I don't want to. I just want. Yeah, I want to walk home with you. And hopefully that lands well, I think it.
Well, it's interesting too, because what you.
Just dropped was just pure fire. So that's gonna be some B roll clips right there. And that's gonna be some like. That was sick. That was beautiful. And the way you described that, like, that was so beautiful, like, because if you look at what that is, what it is, it's an invitation. Look at the way you language that puts a frame on what we've been calling push, pull. It's way better. Which is. She wasn't saying, I'm going to fucking leave you. I know who I am at a new level. And I have seen Father, and I'm going home. If you want to come with me, come. But if we continue down this path, it is impossible for me to go to him if I'm with you. And I refuse to not go to him. So either wake up and come with me, or we will be done. Because I'm after the Father. I'm not after trying to make you happy. Holy shit.
Let's go.
But it's true. It's so much better. It's so much bigger. Like, it's so much bigger than just like the house or the car or the this or the body or this. It's like we're spiritual beings.
Yeah.
Yeah. And, well, there's so much More of.
A high in that than, you know. Exactly. The cars and shoes and that's all fun. Yeah. But ultimately, like, there's much more of like that just understanding and knowing for yourself.
Yeah.
It's funny because like, I think in marriage or relationships there's going to be times where you like feel a little bit disconnected or you feel like you're off. I always tell Gary, I'm like, you just can't go through long stretches of that.
Correct.
Yeah.
So. And I think in the game of growth and expansion, it's so hard when somebody, you know, wants to be a part of Warrior or whatever and they start growing and they feel like they're tugging their spouse along, you know, and so that's when it's like they're like, well, what do I do? And it's like, well, you just keep showing up for the best version of you. And hopefully they. They see that because if they don't and you're like, almost like, why are you coming here? What are you doing? Then they almost like are resistant, you know, and then it's like, okay, well maybe we shouldn't be together. And it doesn't need to to be that way. Everyone just has to have their own individ individual journey of growth and expansion.
I think most couples, I legitimately not being negative. I think most couples won't make it.
Yeah.
Because what you two are doing come around single people.
How old are you?
34.
How old are you? 33.
You guys are in the age group of around a bunch. Who gives a. Let's have some fun. Like everyone I know that's in that particularly even in like the mushroom space and plant medicine space. And let's be free vibrant beings.
That's true.
Is just all each other, everybody. And they're just there to. With 10 different people, open relationships, monogamy plus viper. This. Whatever the hell I just threw viper in there. This all. We watched this happen and we're. I'm like, how? Because we play around. Like, if we were your age and we did not have children and I had just met her and we were a burning man, I'd have been the same. I don't know if we. I pray we would have without kids as an. As a forged thing between us, we could navigate what you're navigating. Because what you two are navigating are two free beings who do not have an interconnected chain of connection with children, which means you're trying to do something that's harder than what we did because we had kids. Without kids, no fucking possible way. We stayed together. We wouldn't have made it.
We don't know that.
Well, I like that we're positive about who we are now coming back from.
Home, kids, they do put you in a space of like, you have to have the date nights and the trips and all this because otherwise, like, life just gets busy. And your energy for a mom, it's like you take care of your kids before you take care of your husband.
Yeah.
And that's one thing that I kind of had to flip is like, I have to take care of my husband and take care of my children. One doesn't come before the other.
Yeah. So how are you so talking?
Walk us through this because we've got the first date. Your wife, super hot couple figuring it out. All both powerful in their 30s. There you are, you two, and you got. You're delivering up a map because I know a ton of miserable.
Setting the standard for younger couples.
Yeah.
So what is it? Talk to how you guys are here.
Well, when you. When. When Keith asked me, what's marriage? Right. And I remember saying, like, oh, it's a divine sacred union where two soulmates come together to create the dopest life on the planet. And the whole room starts laughing. Like I just said the stupidest in the world. I'm like, it's got two of God's people. God meant these people to come together. What the. Anything else is the wrong person. Right? So right off the bat, just the reaction of the room felt like everyone's standard there was like, well, guys are alone and they need to have somebody. I'm like, this.
That was.
That's like some of people's answers. I'm like, this is the level. It's just because you're alone.
Yeah.
I'm like, no, it's God's. God's perfect person for me is the. Is that. Or nothing. Soul mates or get the out right at the end of the day. And then. So that was the first thing. So I feel like our foundation comes from just that angle. But I. I mean, I can spend two months working by myself in an office and not talk to anybody and not have a problem effortlessly. Right. So she cannot do that for a day.
So.
I naturally bump into that all the time.
So how do you navigate that, knowing that. That Peter can isolate down and work in a different universe?
It took me time because I was rebuilding myself when I met him, I was looking to him to guide me. And I kept trying to do things like Peter, and I was miserable. Like I was miserable. And then I was, like. It was like little things. Like, God was reminding me, like, this little thing of, like, Peter one day saying, what are you working on? What are you creating? And I was like, well, I'm creating abundance, and I'm getting my message out there. And I vividly remember this because the next day, I woke up and I, like, hugged a check that I had, and I'm doing my little thing. Like, I'm visualizing doors opening. And I don't know if I told you this story, but. And then I go upstairs, and I'm, like, working on my book, except I am looking outside, and I'm like, I just want to go outside. Oh, my God. I need someone to talk to. And I like to check. This is how, like, I was. I, like, check. I'm like, okay, he's on a call. He'll never know. And I wanted a cookie, and I really wanted to go get a cookie. I want. I was like, I'm gonna go to Fashion.
I thought you said I wanted a quickie. I was like. I looked outside, and Peter was on a call, and I really wanted a quickie.
But I just. To speed the story up, I wound up going outside. I was like, I gotta go outside. I'm gonna go get a cookie. And I happen to just go out. And it was the most magical outing. They were sold out of the cookie. But I found this coat I loved, and I tried it on, and I'm walking around, and I'm. I'm so happy to be out. Like, it sounds crazy, but I was, like, every day, like, trying to operate like Peter, and then I'm out, and I'm, like, walking around like, Nordstrom's with this jacket on, and people are like, I love your coat. And I'm like, I get a call that a stock I invested in two years ago, a penny stock. I lost all my money. I had no idea what I was doing shot up. I had $100,000 in my account. And I was like, like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. So I bought. So I buy the coat. I walk outside, I go, like, from here to your front door. And this guy's like, can I interview you? And I was like, yes, you can. I'm at Fashion Island. What was the interview exactly? I. I have no idea who this guy is. He's like, a young guy. I'm like, yeah, what do you want to talk about? He's like, abundance. I'm like, perfect, let's go. But I wound up not telling him the story. And I want to getting into, like, the whole subconscious mind, what I would tell my younger self. I leave. I never give him my name. I never get his name. I have no idea what it's for. I go home, I'm like, peter, I. I left the house, but I had the best day, right? And like, I made $100,000 today and I got this coat and I love it. And, oh, I got interviewed. Months later, it goes viral. Oh, really? And yeah, out of nowhere, it's just going viral.
Hard Knocks.
One million views. Five million views. Ten million views. And then school of Hard Knocks kid.
That was school.
Hard Knocks kid.
Wow. You had no idea who he was.
Massive. That kid.
Chill's crazy.
No clue. And then you can just be yourself. Yeah. And then wound up. That wound up later getting posted by Elon. And I was just like, so all.
Of these, repost that video.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. So we're talking about the guy, you don't know his name, that interviewed you. The jacket with deep detail and description. Absolute passionate about not a quickie, but a cookie at lunch. And then you just decided to slow roll that little tiny thought. Oh, yeah, Elon reposted me. Next thing. Let me tell you what happened next. I'm like, ah, ah. Back up, back up.
It's because God needs his messengers and you have to listen. So he told you to go get a cookie, and he positions you perfectly to deliver a message.
Exactly. I was 100%. And in that moment, I was like, I am not going to do things like Peter. I'm going to do things like me.
Right.
I had to remember that my way works his way.
A little bit like Peter.
Yeah.
A little bit like the get shit done part. You're gonna do like the biggest.
Hold on.
Because the biggest message I'm. I'm getting from this story is it's so simple to listen to God. Sometimes people think it's going to come down in a big divine revelation and the stars and the universe aligns. And sometimes he just wants you to go get a cookie.
Exactly.
The more you listen to those prompts, the more you start to trust that. And the more you're like, turn left and park there. I don't know why I need to turn left and park there.
Exactly.
And then all of a sudden, you're helping somebody out or you're doing something, or maybe you avoided an App Jackson or whatever it is. But, like, you have to be willing to say yes to the little and not just the big, you know?
Exactly, Exactly. It Was like. Just like when it was like, go to Ibiza. I'm like, I'm going to Ibiza. I don't know why. Like, I. But for a while, I drowned that voice out because I was listening to his voice because he's successful and he's doing things and he's helping me. And so I was putting all of my value on him and being like, you tell me.
Yeah.
And forgetting, like, that doesn't work for you. I got a hotline to God, and I, at any moment can just be like, I'm on my way.
You know, like, I think the fun.
Part, I mean, when you know, she's connected and you're in business mode, like me, like, I'm listening to you. This goes on with us, too. Because she would constantly take on, well, what about this? Even right now, with stuff she's dealing with, I've had to ask her questions like, mike, do you want me to solve this problem? Do you want me to listen? Do you want me to just smile? Help me understand what I'm supposed to do right now? Because am I supposed to do. Am I engaging? Am I just being a best friend and listening right now, like, where I'm at? This Caitlin, she's going to need to start going shopping with you so that you two can have your girl moments and she can talk about her shit, and then you can reframe her into positivity.
Yes.
When you guys are in. In this stage of, like, how. How do you navigate that discipline and your vibrant, bouncy energy, super powerful, and your very logical, think it through, calculated, detailed structure. There's a reason you're drawn together, but how do you. How does that blend itself into polarity and passion, sexuality, intimacy?
Well, I. I had to make an affirmation. I respect Caitlyn's decisions. Even now I have no idea why she does them. Right. It was like, she just, like, I have to work for years to get to the point where I can make a video that has 100 million views and Caitlyn does nothing.
Sounds like you're so mad. I did something. I went shopping.
I just know it's like.
Like I'm just missing something so big. I'm like, I read 19 books, she didn't go to one. She's a listening podcast. No webinars, went to no workshops, no seminars, hired no coaches. How the hell did you know to go get the cookie?
Yeah.
So I just have to accept that there's this other stuff going on and she's good at. And I'm not at.
And I think we're working on, like, listening to each other. There's been many times, like, I'm like, I don't think you should do that, Peter. Yeah. Thank you. Like, I remember when he called me, he's like, I'm gonna take the skateboard out. I was like, peter, I really do not think you should go skateboarding. Like, I'm telling you, I do not feel good about this at all. And then I go into the grocery store, and I get hit with this wave of emotion, and I just start tearing up, and I thought it was my brother, because sometimes I'll get these. And I'm like, Sean, like. And I'm. I'm just. I'm crying, like, getting paper towels, and I walk out, and I just see Peter, Help. Help. Like. And you can. I can feel things before, like, as they're happening or when they're. And I'm like, sure enough, Peter's on the highway or on the side of the road. He can't move. His foot's broken in three places. And I'm like, I could have told you I felt this. But, yeah, it's this balance of, like, he has to learn. Like, Peter is the kid that's like, the stove is hot. And he's like, where? And I'm like, he is, like, touching. Are you sure? I don't think it is to a.
T. And I'm like, he's like, yeah, are you sure?
And I'm like, all right, noted. Going this way, Right? So I think it's definitely, like, we have to respect and balance. Like, you know, and. And just, like, what works for me, works for me, and what works for him, works for him. Like, if I was like, peter, just go out. Like, let's go have fun. He would get anxiety.
Sometimes it's hard because sometimes Caitlyn can't tell the difference between one of her ideas and God's ideas, right? So, like, she'll. She'll be convinced that a price change that I'm making in my business, that God wants it to be this price, and she will die to make it this price.
You had to.
Trying to tell her it's not a big deal. We're gonna go with this. God told me it's this price. I'm like, caitlin, and I'm the business guy. It's this price.
Are you Kaylin. Are you and Danielle literally twins? Holy.
No, here's. I have. I have to tell you this.
This isn't the death over this one.
Idea, because women naturally have A little bit of anxiety. So sometimes we'll speak things out of being anxious, and we're like, no, my soul told me. And then I have to. Like, usually when I get that calm voice, there's no panic in it.
There's no.
It's like, hey, Peter, you need to change your business. If you don't, I don't care. But I felt like you did. I should tell you this.
I wish you said that I don't care stuff. That's.
But.
But this. I'm saying this is. But if I know I'm in a panicky place with Garrett where I'm like, this is never going to work, and we're gonna die and we're gonna burn, like, my mind goes down, like, the worst possible scenario. I know it's usually my anxiety versus.
Like, okay, that's good to.
At least for me, that helps me. Especially with kids and stuff. I'm like, I can go down the rabbit hole. And I'm like, no. My intuition told me this is true, and I'm like, maybe I'm putting that in the universe, and it's not true. And it's my anxiety. Yeah.
What I love about what you said is, like, go do it. I don't care. But I'll tell you what the deal is.
Yeah.
That is I let you go skateboarding. There's no, don't do it. I care.
Well, let's. Let's.
There's a little.
Okay. There's a little.
Danielle has said, I don't care. I think. Let me count real quick once. Just right here. So that's good. Very first time, it just happened on the show. Because that's not how she does it. This is why, like, half the time, she'll come back for me with conversation. She'll be like, oh, my God, you shouldn't have heard about this today. And then I. They said this. And then I. Then I was. Then I said. And I said, did you actually say that, or did you think that afterwards?
I thought that afterwards.
I was like, okay. Most of the time, she'll give me feedback about my business and tell me what she thinks I should do. Feeling very plugged in. And then I'll sit and look at her, and I'll be like, okay. She's like, well, what are you gonna do? I was like, I'm not doing that. Yeah, but I appreciate you sharing and shank. You don't even listen to me. I'm sharing with you right now.
I'm like, it's a knowing. It's a Knowing.
No, there are no to knowing. I have had knowing. I. I won't bring it up, but I have had knowings it up.
I have had.
I'm not going to bring up the details, but I have had knowings where my whole body. This is why I. Like, I've had. I don't know. Sometimes my body does react, though. It's like my body's trying to tell me something. And I'm like, peter, something's wrong. And he's like, well, what is it? I'm like, I don't know, but I'm telling you. Like, my body is feeling it. There is something wrong. And he's like, but could you just det. I'm like, I. This is bad. Like, what you're doing. This is no good. And then, like, I'll get the feeling. I'll get the. And I'm like, peter, like, I literally had to tell him one time. If you do this, I don't think I can be with you. It is so bad. This feeling that I'm having is so low.
Yeah.
Turns out it's like this terrible situation that we're out of. But it was like I was right. Like, it's like there is something right. Like, there are. There's so much more than we see. There's so much more going on than we see. And it's like when you can be still, when you take time to pray, when you take time to meditate, when you take. You take time to connect. You're more aware of things that exist that we can't see, in my opinion, in my experience. And so it's those. That intuitive feeling or that something's wrong or that I don't. I don't even know how to explain it. It's. It's experiential, but it's real.
I think, too, when you get, like you said, multiple prompts. It's like sometimes you don't listen the first time. And then when it comes back, you're like. You just kind of almost are like, why?
Whatever.
You brush it off, off. And then it's like it comes back for a third time and you're like, this seems silly, but now it's been brought to my attention three times, so I must go listen, you know?
Yeah.
Or if. Even if it's just like you said, like, if. If I'm like, hey, if you do nothing about this, fine. I just at least got it off my plate. I at least needed it for some reason. Tell you this. If you decide this is. You don't Care. At least I've was told to tell you this.
You know, I had a lot of ego, things I had to release, right. Because Caitlyn started working with us in the business and I'm like, oh, I've been doing this for 11 years, blah, blah, blah, exits. Like, yeah. And she will say something that is so smart that I just am embarrassed that I have not thought of this.
Right.
And it's embarrassing. It's literally I just have to like suck it up. Like just in this weird way. But it's like, it's hard for a while. Like it took me a while. I've been like, no, I'm not gonna do that. Like, it's just because I didn't come up with it is. How could you come up with that idea? You don't do business and you just came in here.
Right.
But like, I know that's what we're here for.
We're here to guide.
But that's the guiding back and forth, right. With each other. Okay, so we're going to push this topic to another topic. You ready?
Yeah.
Okay. So all this manifesting, connecting one of the key aspects to relationships is sex and intimacy, like physicality. And I've heard all about this mental mass. Mental manifesting and all this bonding. We're such good friends and that's.
Right.
There's obviously polarity between you two. When did the polarity start where you're like, I'll rip his clothes off right now or okay, yeah. I don't want to just help her make videos and help her with her business.
Was that day four?
Yeah, it was like.
No, it was later because you guys.
Were traveling and doing like, when did things all of a sudden turned on.
By this person and it didn't actually happen until she. It was like the end of it. It was the last day. Like a London. Paul McKenna was there. Not there, but he was. That was the night.
We went out. We went out, but I hadn't see. I. I had went from being like in a really bad relationship, like totally heartbroken and very sick and then losing my brother. So I had not dated or been with anyone in three years.
Got it.
So it was like three years. Yeah, three years. I was like, first one in three years. Yeah. So it was very gem right here. Thank you.
Yeah, Right. So crazy.
I wasn't like, I. My mind, I mean, there was part of me that was like, oh, but I was so can. Like I was in such a different frame of mind where I was like, I'm gonna love myself I'm gonna heal myself. I'm gonna give myself everything I need. And only when I feel like I'm whole will I even entertain the idea of someone else. So I was very on this mission of, like, find you. I'm gonna be the best me. Like, I'm gonna be the. So. But then I. I guess it was like, we had met in September, and it was probably, like, November.
It was. It was. It was a while.
It was a while. Yeah. But then it was just, like, right.
Then. We lived in London for, like, six weeks.
I can't play any poker because you just watch her. All her energy just goes from, like, explaining, explaining, and then it visualized a whole bunch of things really quickly. It was like. And then it was really great. So when did you. Like, you were, like, being friend. Like, friend with her, like, helpful. Were you. Were you sexually drawn by her the whole time and you just weren't acting on it, or.
No, this was like, I had, like, what. I feel like I released a lot of my sexual desires from just letting go and. Because I wasn't dating girls for the last three months, because I had stopped just to go. Just to, like, focus on calling in the person. And I just was not rushing it, did not care. Not a big deal to me. This was not the most important thing to me. It is on the list. It actually might be the top of the list. Because without that, you're just friends, right? Because then you're just best friends.
No, but you told your manifestation coach what.
What it say about sex on the manifestation?
No, he told his manifestation coach. He was like, I like her, but I'm not attracted to her.
Oh, that's. Yeah, because she was Nissan. That. That was my. That was it, right? There's, like, some serious. That was.
That was attractive.
Yeah. No, I was like, she's got the whole package, but I don't know if this.
Like, I hope he's changed his mind.
So she didn't come in, like, a total, like, 11 out of 10. Right. Kind of gem, ready to go. Right. It was like, we had to go. I had to take her on a $30,000 shopping straight spree through Milan and through Paris, and we had to go through.
Like. Yep.
I don't have anything at home. There's nothing else.
I got a backpack from Burning man, and I lost all my clothes.
That's what I met. I was like, in such. He's like.
It was a long process. Hey. What.
Listen, I was a project, so I'm not saying that you were a project. You're gorgeous and you got a great looking man. But I get it. The project game at the beginning and you were coming from a pretty rough place.
I was like totally rough. Like, like barely functioning. And he was just like. He was him.
Yeah.
So I was like. I mean, I'm like. I just left Burning Man. I just. I'm like, I'm at like this. I was gonna go to Nepal. I'm in Ibiza with like, I don't know, Shamatis. I don't know. Yeah, it was like. It was. Yeah. But then, I don't know. Then I. When did it change for you? I don't even know.
I'm not sure when it changed, you know, but it definitely pivoted to like everyday vibes, you know, which is great.
You probably. Well, you probably started to see like more of who she is, right? Like sometimes connections right out of the bat, like, oh, she's cute too. But even like for Garrett and I like once I actually went on several dates with him. Once I started to talk to him, then I sexually was attracted to him. But it's because it's like I started to like.
She wasn't first.
No, I was. Not at all. This is so sad. This is a funny story, but we were at like a big. We were young, but we were at this big like church conference. There's probably like 2, 000 people in this church conference. And I'm 18 years old, little 18 year old, and I'm leaving with like four of my girlfriends. And he. I can scarret's tall and he's got bleached out spiky hair. Like that was a thing back then, him. And all of a sudden tips. And I'm talking, I can hear this guy like talking and trying to flirt and have game. And I'm like, who's this guy? And like the whole time him and his crew's walking kind of behind my crew and I'm like, I for sure hope he doesn't come up and talk to his us. Like he just seemed like. Like he was trying to hit on every girl that walked by.
We were.
And yeah. So then we're getting in our cars and he says something stupid. Like it's not too often you see four hot girls get in one car. And I'm like, what a dick. And I just like got in my car. I don't even remember her roommates were.
All about my action.
Well, yeah, here's our number.
That's how we found our way across to your home.
We found out they lived in the same apartment complex. He lived upstairs. And he came down, and I happened to be the only one home. And I was the one that's like, please don't talk to us. And I answered the door, and I was like, oh, no, this guy. And none of my roommates were home. But it wasn't that. I. I was just, like. Almost like. His energy to me was, like, very, like, chauvinistic. Like. Like, it wasn't really who he is. Right.
Yeah.
So that was my first impression, is just this loud guy. This loud, obnoxious guy. I'm like, no. And then he ends up talking me into going to get ice cream with him. He's like, can I get your number? And I'm like, sure. But when I saw you and we were talking, I was like, oh, he's.
He's kind of cool.
Like, I was like, he's kind of cool. So I gave him a shot of ice cream. And it wasn't until we, like, went on several dates that I was like, yeah, he's kind of hot. Like, the attraction factor went up based on me getting to know him and having that connection.
That's everything. I mean, when. I mean, honestly, when I met Peter, Peter was so different. Like, Peter had a nose ring. He would wear it.
Like.
Like, we were in a. He had eyeliner on and nail polish.
Like, dressing up like a pirate.
Yeah.
Peter was like, I was a wizard.
For a while, and then I realized girls didn't like that, so I pivoted.
Pirate?
Yeah, they.
I don't know if they like that either, but. But so I. I mean, we were both, like, so different. So I met him, and he'd be like. I remember him asking me one day, like, we were in New York shooting, and he's like, can you see if there's any, like, blue nail polish? And I'm like, like, the. I never had a guy. And I remember, like, telling my mom, like, she was gonna meet him, like, okay. Like, Peter's cool, but, like, he has, like, lots of, like, chains, and, like, his nose is pierced. He wears, like, eyeliner. My mom's like, okay, honey. Like, I have to tell my dad. My dad was like, you're kidding, Kate. Like. Cause my dad's, like, ex military, clean cut. He's like, he's a nose ring. You're joking, baby. Like, no way. And then he, like, met Peter, and he's like, oh, my God. Okay. But he's really nice to her. Okay. Okay. So we were both, like, like, in different transition.
Yeah.
But I. I think that's what's so beautiful about it, is that I fell in love with him. Yeah, right. Like here and then I would like, you know, in speaking of manifestation, I would like journal. Like when I was very sick, I didn't live in California. I'd be like, I live by the beach in California. My husband's a billionaire. We travel, our jet and I like imagine this guy. When I met Peter, I was like, well, that's clearly not what I've been imagining. But he's shifted. Like, I've never said, I've never said anything to him. How to. To work out anything consciously with my.
But like, oh, we know what you girls are doing. Imagine forging us with your subconscious powers.
But I'm like, it's so he's just changing. Great. Love that. That's great, right? But he was definitely more direct. But it's wild. Like you fall in love and then you get more connection and then you.
Just package him better.
Now I'm like obsessed with him. Now I'm like, like we're at the movie theater. It's like inside out. There's kids on the. I love you. Oh my God, I love like, I'm like, he's like touching my skirt. I'm like, stop. Those kids like, okay, chill, chill. Watch the movie. You know, which is so cool.
I think the attraction factor for men or for women is like, yeah, we like see the guy for who they are. But then if they start to their appearance shifts a little bit, we're like, oh, even better. Okay, that's nice. Before you start lifting weights, I'd be like, I don't need muscles. Hun, it's fine. We don't need muscles. And they started lifting weights. I was like, I really like muscles.
Yeah, yeah, those are great. You should, you should keep those. Those are great.
I used to dress like, I mean the worst. This guy named David August who is like a clothier here in town. His kids went to our school and I would show up in my Lululemon anti ball crushing pants and my warrior T shirts every single day. And she would always be like, talk about how attractive this guy was. And I was like, fucking pussy dude. Dress all nice with your matchy sweaters and your matchy pants and your matchy matchy sweater.
He would literally roll in with the sweatpants hanging off his ass. And I was like, like a pretty prestigious private school here. Like maybe like put some regular pants on.
Yeah.
So I thought he was like total just idiot. But that really was just me. Being uncomfortable.
Yeah.
As a guy. So then she got me a gift card to go to get a suit with him. But their suits are like, not cheap. Like 8, 9, $10,000 for a suit.
Wow.
So she got me a thousand dollars to just get me in the door. And then I got there and then these guys like David August like, completely rewrote my brain about clothes. And from then it just changed. And then like now I got to the point where I go out now. The downside of the monster she's created is this is I will look as good or better than she does many times. And nowadays she used to get all the attention when she was shredded Fitness girl and I was skinny surfer guy. Nobody was coming up to me about shit.
Yeah.
No one.
See, but you like it.
See, we.
We transform them and then they get the validation and the attention and they like it. That's a great idea. So then they show up. Better for us. We know what we're doing. You guys think we're being shallow and being like, you should have muscles and nice clothes. But we're like, we know how you feel. When you put that on, you'll look like the man you already know you are inside.
Yeah. And your energy changes. I was thinking about how much I like am like obsessed with Peter, but I'm thinking about what he's doing, his actions. But it's like, because he's spending like four, four or five hours yesterday reading the Bible. He woke up at 4:30 in the morning and read it. By the time I see him, he is vibing so high that I'm like. Like my heart feels it. Like, it's not that. It's like I literally feel his heart. Because his heart is open now, because he's in. He's connected. And so it's so amazing that I'm like, yeah.
I think most people, when they're in the space of being connected, is. That's very attractive. So you can see somebody and you're like, what is it about your energy?
And it's.
They are open.
Exactly.
And so it's you. It's. It's also kind of like scary too, because if you're so open all the time, it can be like, for me at least, I'm like, I don't know. If you experience this, it's like almost. It drains me a little bit.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
I gotta like, protect myself, my emotions, my boundaries. Because otherwise it's like if you're open all the time, it's like, then you don't have enough to give your partner or your kids or whatever it is. So it's like, you have to be strategic about your openness, because there's so many people that are like, so, so, so open. But then people can take advantage of them or they have no boundaries, and then it's like, you're a little bit. And draining.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super draining.
I get. I get approached all the time.
Well, he. I had to protect him in the airport yesterday. He's the guy that anybody who's like, can I have money? Can I have money? Can I have money? Which I love that he's such a big giver.
Yeah.
Or even people will suck conversations out of him. So, like, we're on a. Meaning, like, we're on a plane, and the guy, he gets. We get stuck on a conversation with a guy on the plane, and I go, I could tell he was having a good time, but we got done. And I go, why did you give that guy an hour of your time? Did you feel like you had to? And, you know, he's. He's in coach mode, and he's doing that. And I'm like, I was fine to have my own space, but it was literally on our anniversary. And I was like, you gave him an hour of your time? Because givers, they tend to do that a lot. So sometimes I have to almost like, like, protect him from that. Like, be like, hey, you don't need to. Come on. You're coming with me right now. So. But I. You naturally, like, that's what you do.
I got shellacked on that one.
I didn't know. I just wanted him to be aware. I was like, I was fine to sit in my own space on our anniversary and look at the window. Window for an hour.
Bad move.
Yeah.
That memory's still here, dude.
It got brought up because I'm like.
This guy has no idea who he is and how good of a coach he is and how much value this guy is getting from he's just having a conversation. And I was like, gave. He gave him so much of his energy, you know? And I was like, you got to be protective of your. Of your energy at some level.
You really do. Yeah. Especially on.
Was that it?
It?
Was that it or did not. Did you not get to get hung out with for a little while?
No, no.
I really. I actually was fine with quiet time, cuz, like, we'd been together the whole week. I. It was just something that I noticed in Garrett. I was like, he. So many people. We used to go to events. And so many people would want to stop and talk to him, stop and talk to him, stop and talk to him. And I was like, you know, and you're like, you, at some level you have to be like, I love you, but I have to respect my own self worth and values and boundaries because I need to now go give this energy, be somewhere else.
Yeah, yeah.
So just being like, that's why you see a lot of people at events, like if they're the main speakers, like they're out of there. They're, they're, they're not trying to be a dick, they're trying to protect their energy. They're like, I love you guys, but I've got to now go speak on another stage or do another thing and I have to give all of that back or I love you, but now I got to go home and be a wife or wife, be a husband or a wife and give energy back to my kids. So I think the entrepreneurs are guilty of letting people take so much of their energy that then they leave little to give their significant other or their kids. So that was the only thing I wanted to bring to his attention. Because when he does events and stuff like that, I'll be like, I know you can go till 9 o' clock at night, but then I get nothing left. So that's fine. But if you get done at like 6 or 7, I know I still get a little bit of your energy.
No, that's a really good point.
That was a, that was on the anniversary. So yeah.
That'S fine.
She was, she was pissed.
No, I really wasn't pissed. I honestly, I honestly just wanted to bring it to his awareness. I'm like, you gave him your time. Like, I just want you to know, like, I don't need any more time right now. But it's just something he does often.
You needed my energy to sit by you.
And even if, yeah, even if he just held my hand, I think I would have been like, I think what's.
Important is his reaction to this moment. I can tell that, you know, he might have some backlashes on his back. Right. This ain't no casual looking man.
Right?
Normally I would have been angry. Like, why did you talk to that guy the whole time? And instead I was like, hey, I want you to notice.
She very nicely put me in a frame that had.
I was like, I want you to notice that's what you did. I don't want you to feel bad.
But I get it.
How good is she at being able to pierce between your armor there.
She knows where every nook and cranny is and can stab me to death effortlessly, effortlessly in less than half a second can have me gutted. And my balls are rolling down the hill. It's like I don't even know what just happened.
I'm super solid. But somehow I guess there's a kink right here.
This is what happens when you're married to we're with Oracle women. These women are deeply connected and they have the ability to know right where the crevices and the in the crack in the matrix. It's like oh you're so cute. Good job studying for six hours this morning. You select points and I'm going to stab you. Now what did I do? Nothing. Slept in, had beauty sleep and had a pre workout. Now you're done.
I used to feel so bad. Garrett always gets up at 4 and he like made me feel bad cuz I'm more like a 6, 6:30. And I was like thank you. And I was like, I don't feel bad. I'm like I don't need you to project. Like I don't get more done in the day if I get up at 4, I'm just meaner to my kids.
I thank you. Peter just told me yesterday. He's like, it's the sleep that's what's hurting you. I'm like really? He's like, yeah, you're just sleeping in. I'm like, I get up at like 6:30.
Yeah, yeah.
10 hours in bed. You had I'm like 10. It was like eight. Like I think that's a normal amount.
I was like what?
Listen, you girls hooked up with guys like us because we're psychopaths and you're both stunning and beautiful and powerful.
But our standards are not to wake up at 4am but that doesn't mean.
We have a low standard at 2:30.
You guys need the extra two hours. It's important. Yeah, we do.
The universe needs us. Here's the thing.
When Peter I'm at 3:30.
Now Peter's at 3:30, cold turkey.
Monday to Friday everybody. Since he told me cold 30, three 30.
That's how we, we decided well he.
Going to be at nine though. That's amazing because I used to do 2:30 but I have to go to bed six.
Yeah, that would suck.
And then the time zone changed and then I couldn't do it anymore. But then he just cold turkey and I'm over it.
But Peter told me yesterday, he said like I think sleep is the problem. And I was like, okay, well, then maybe I'll get up earlier. And he's like, but would you come up here if you got up earlier? And I was like, probably. He's like, oh, okay. Well, because I really actually. Are you going to talk to me? I guess not. He's like, okay, yeah, maybe. Maybe just stay in bed. Yeah. Because I really like my alone time. Like, this is where I go. I'm like, okay, you should do it, but don't talk to me.
You should get up early, but don't talk to me when you do.
Garrett and I have had arguments about this because he's. His morning routine is so crucial for him. I think for. For men, it almost like they know the routine that has to set them up for success. Right. They need more of that time to. He literally, like, he's like, I. I wake up so angry, I have to stack and get all these emotions out to where I feel like I'm like, solid for the day. And I would tease him all the time. I'm like, I like morning sex. And he was like, oh, I don't know if I can do that. Like, he wouldn't need to, really. Did you turn me down?
She's like, I will have sex with you every single day.
But it was right in the middle of his routine.
But she deliberately selects the time because she knows it requires me to up my schedule. So then I'm like, wait, is that.
How you plan it?
No, I just know my best hour is 7:00am Like 6. I kind of wake up. I might lay there till 6.30am I get to brush my teeth. I'll lay back in bed at seven. And that's the window.
Now. I figured out what to do. When we were in Greece, I wanted to do Academy Journey and I wanted to do my morning routine and my Bible sagging on myself. So I woke up at 2 o', clock, did my stuff, hit my academy for two hours. It was just insane. Then came into the bed.
His energy was like, nice and mellow.
Clean my body off, off. Put on cologne. Laid back in bed at like 7 o' clock and 7:30 in the morning with her. And it was just.
And then we know he fell back as you fell back asleep for like two hours. I was like. And then we woke up and I.
Was like, did you get up in.
The middle of the night and go do ketamine? He's like, I did.
I wanted to go deep. So I went off for like two hours.
There you go.
That was awesome.
Are you Guys having ketamine sex, too?
No, I've never done ketamine times when we're having sex. Yes. We've not done. She's.
She's not.
I'm, like, so scared to do any. I mean, the only thing I do is drink because I get, like. I'm very sensitive to, like, pretty much anything. And I feel like I did a gummy one time, and I was, like, the worst experience of my life. I felt, like, trapped. And I was like, I'll never do that again. Actually, I did it, like, two or three times. Like, I'm gonna really give it a shot. And then I. Even when I smoke weed, it makes me super paranoid. So I'm like, okay, yeah, it's fun.
Except I just get, like, all these really wild downloads. I'm like, like, peter, I almost.
She will have. She's like, aliens just walked in the room.
Well, sometimes. That was, like, one time, but I'll have more. Like, okay, fine.
A couple times.
I feel like I would get panicky.
I'm like, this shit's real.
Yeah, I'll get, like, these.
I'll get these whole downloads. I'm like, okay, I understand. Like, I'm like, yes. Or the other day, I was like, peter, so the king's pyramid chamber I just saw is actually the same coordinates of our heart. And it's a resonance when you're inside. And that's how you blast your soul out. And he's like, what? And I'm like, like, okay, we're like, having sex. And I'm like, but I'll see these visions.
You were saying this while you're having sex?
Yeah, like, you going over your grocery list. Don't do that. I'll be like, peter, I understand reincarnation. You know, this and this.
And he's like, no, I mean, that's what. That's why you asked about the sex thing the other day. This. I was like, mine is called the Exorcist. Because she just starts going like. She's like these herbodics flailing around.
It's energy.
And I'm like, this is the Exorcist.
But that's the new sex, man. We're going to call that one the Exorcist.
I'm actually so grateful that Peter is my boyfriend because.
I don't know.
I mean, now everybody knows I understand it, but it's energy. Like, they say one way to ascend is through sex. Like, if it is a true divine connection, like, it's Kundalini energy, it awakens.
Tell Me all your desires.
What are you visualizing? I'm like, tell me your goals right now.
That.
That's so true, guys.
Sharing this audience. Everyone's clapping.
That was one.
You're manifesting by having sex.
You're on stage, baby.
Now you're on stage. It's like going out and I'm blasting full energy. He's like, she's connected. Go time. Dropping seas, speaking things like, oh, my God, it's.
That would be a good commentary. It's like, really?
I mean, like, it's. It's fun. There's no academy needed for that. Sometimes it's just, like, normal.
We have. We have that. The ketamine maybe is in our future. We'll see.
We have really good tequila sex, so we're fine. But, you know.
Oh, like, a thousand times better than anything alcohol could ever give you. Yeah, for sure.
I just am, like, nervous. I'm like, I totally understand.
I never tried anything in my life.
Any drugs, ever. She's instantly signed up. I was like, how have you never, ever signed up to this? I lost my mother.
And I was like, okay. You know?
You're like, okay.
What is life like? You know, I waited, like, 33 years to never try a drug in my entire life. Like, okay, let's just try it.
Yeah, I was scared.
No. We were with Vision Guy and the founder of Zumba. So we had a cool crew with us.
It was like, yeah, but I don't like mushrooms or any of that stuff. That is, like, trippy. Oh, my God.
It's very different.
Honestly.
There is no substance I've ever had that feels as good as I feel.
Yeah.
So it feels like a downgrade every time.
I'm like, but, you know, one thing is that, you know what's better than ketamine?
What?
On getting God's plans is the prayer stack.
Yeah, he did say that. He did say that.
Can you say in prayer in the same sentence?
We can say whatever the we want.
We're creating good, dude. That works phenomenally well.
It does.
Yes. Thank you.
It really does.
I'm sitting here like, I don't need to meditate anymore.
I mean, with men that are connect. With men and women that are connected and have already done a ton of work, they're finding the same things that I found. It's like being on a journey. Me, like, I'll be in between a Bible sack and prayer sack. It'll be like the hour, about an hour in through, all finished bible sack. About 30 minutes, 40 minutes. And then it'll Parlay into the prayer stack. And then when I hit that, there's. The dialogue is no different than anything. Don Neil Donald Walsh of books. That's what inspired stacking for me way back in the day, 2009, was reading that conversation, the first three books, and.
You were like, how do I. I.
Was like, how the. God doesn't talk to people this way, does he? So then stacking became the entire frame of me finding this conversation. I didn't want to just read shit. I wanted to have conversation. I wanted communion with God. I wanted to know what he thought about my situation. Not in generalities, in specificity, which is all the guys are getting it right now in prayer stacking. But the Bible stack seems to somehow kind of set it up. It's like, it's like a boost. It's like a blast off. Somehow it, like the energy of it, like, booms off and then you're in this other place. Which is why I said wisdom is like the second place. Because now you're able to have this conversation, but it's not just here, it's documented.
Is all of this in the. In the Warrior app?
Yep.
It's a lot of things in the Warrior app.
I know you basically been evolving for, like, years and years and years.
So this is the person we've had for a couple last couple years. It was missing Bible stuff back, but again, it's going to be whatever it's going to be like. Peter's really conscious and he's very committed human being. I'm very conscious, very committed human being. So guys are at that level and girls get exactly what they want out of it. They'll get God's like, you can go as deep as you want. I'll give you whatever you want. Ken is the same way. You think for me, like this last Juno, like, pass like four or five different tests and just kept letting go and melting back. And then I disappear. And he'd come back and it's like, okay, good job. Now let me show you some things. And sometimes it's not like that. Sometimes, like, you get to just feel good and have a good time today because you're not ready to go anywhere today.
Yeah.
Your vibration is way too slow.
Yeah.
You really have to prepare your attentions before. And I've also found that if you get yourself in a super grateful state before you do anything, it really impacts the feeling. Like, it's like all the emotion you come in with, it enhances it.
Yeah.
So taking time to, like, thank you, God, for all this Stuff and then set intentions makes a big difference.
So we are. We are going to do a second episode with you guys. This was like. This was fun.
I was like, did I really just tell him about my Egyptian downloads on camera?
It's okay. We, Whenever we have couples on this, are like, did I just say that on your podcast? I'm like, ha.
Every couple has. Has said at least four or five things that they wouldn't normally say.
No. It's comfortable.
And when everybody's like, we're all.
We're all humans.
Humans doing this thing. We're all having very different experiences with each other, but we're all having the same experience.
There's a lot of things that you don't share that people are going through the same.
Yeah.
Or similar situations.
The same.
That's probably better to share because then that's how we learn. Yeah. And from each other.
Yeah.
Well, then you get to see, like, you two and, like, you're just. You guys brought a different angle this week. Week for us on the show, which is awesome. I think we've had a couple couples that we've had. So we've got the last three couples who have married. They were married for, like, 20 years. The other ones had just gotten together for a year and a half, and we're engaged. And you guys been together for a year and a half. Two years.
Yeah. Almost two years.
Well, we loved having you here.
Thank you. So fun.
We're not always. We weren't always open to having couples on the show. We just didn't think about it.
It.
Then we started doing it with couples and, like, it just way more fun. Yeah.
We've got a lot of feedback from it, too. So it's like. Yeah, I think it's. It's good to share your story, and I think that's the reason I started even podcasting is because it's like, it gives you an opportunity to connect with people, but also pull. Extract things out that other people might want to hear and be like, oh, you know, and it'll ultimately give them permission to do whatever it is if it's manifesting, if it's creating this relationship that you guys have, if it's doing things different. And I do agree that Garrett said you're setting a different standard. There's so many people. I mean, I know we're not that much older than you guys, but there's so many people in your age bracket where they're not taking this kind of soulmate thing serious. They're not. They're just Kind of. They're just kind of living life and driving the Lambos and doing the thing. And then they wonder why they cheated or got disconnected. And it's like, because you forgot to search what God wants you to search for, which is not the Lambos. It's the connection.
Yeah.
So you guys are setting an amazing example, and I feel it with you guys being here on the show that you are having that connected, and you're searching for that, and you're holding the standard for other young couples to have more than just the fancy cars, but to search for this piece that ultimately everybody is looking for.
So may we all ascend to begot Bugatti owners.
Bugatti. This is what Peter continues to text me. He's like, we're done with these Lambos. We need Bugattis. I was like. And then I text him a picture back of the house and my five children. I said, here's a couple of my Bugattis right here. So last feedback. Bless you at Peter. Love having you here. Love getting to know you. Love. Also, the fact that you just penetrated our life out of nowhere, it just was the wildest, weirdest shit ever about how you showed up in our world. You came in hot, and then you came in hot again. And Danielle's like, when you came to my fitness competition, first one, she's like, so do you and Peter, like, really close? I was like, no, not at all.
Somebody just texted me, his name's Peter, and he's coming to the show. He's like, I don't know who that is. I go. And then you sent me a picture, and you're like, I'm driving. I was like, still. I was like, who's this guy?
And he's all, remember we went to dinner with him? And I was like, oh, okay, so you're really good friends.
He's like, no, no.
And then we, like, show up again. I know.
Not yet.
Very Peter. Like, there's not a lot of things that Peter, like, really admires. Actually, there's, like. Like, one hand, and I remember him being like, I admire this guy. Like, this guy is me and my future. And, like, I just. I want to get to know him. I want to. I want to be his friend. I want to understand how he works.
And, like.
Like, I. I just want to support him. Like. And even I remember he was, like, telling me, he's like, I'm gonna sign up for his course. I'm like, okay. And then he's like, that was the best thing. Like, he's Just. You're a good man.
That was the dost thing ever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You are. You are. Like, you're on path, like, and not because you need me to say that. I'm just saying I've told you, I've had first with you, like, a whole bunch of first. Like, never had it happen. In 12 years, 65,000 guys have never had some of the things happen with any. Any man in the way they respond to life, Life than the way Peter does. And, like, that is, like, that gift is a gift God's bringing to my world from you.
Yeah.
And I also know that there's a foundational game and a map that you should. Like, in less than a couple years, three, four years, you guys have 10 times what we have.
Yeah.
The speed you two are moving, you're overcoming all these obstacles that we had to go to. We spent years in just of pain and suffering and hurt.
Our religious background, how we're raised. This, like, wasn't even a conversation.
Yeah.
Now, so well done, my friend. And, Caitlyn, you're a superstar.
Thank you.
Like, your feminine power is ridiculous. Like, it's intoxicating. It's beautiful. It's amazing. You should be podcasting regularly. You're, like, speaking, training. There's a reason that video went viral. It didn't go viral because of the show, and it didn't get repinned by Elon because of your beauty. It's because your energy is so fierce in your feminine. Like, it's fierce. Like, it's intoxicating. It fills up my house when you're here. Keep doing it. I love it. You two together, like, perfect. Perfect match. Could not have made a better match. You two are on fire. We loved having you guys today on the show.
Thank you so much.
We love you guys.
Plan to get the out.
Yeah.
All right, guys, thank you so much for listening to another episode of the date your wife podcast cast. Share it with your friends. If you found this important to you, again, share with your friends. And you know what? If you want to be on the show, message me, because we want more powerful couples to really share their stories and impact others. All right, that's it, you guys.
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