💍 Love, Fame & Breaking the Rules: The Untold Story of Caroline & Sergio

All right, my friends, welcome here to the date your wife podcast. While I'm here with my wife, who has failed the 30 day sex challenge, we just want to update you on that. Well, I want to talk about your failure before we get started with our guest Joe.

He. Our last show, he was like, let's make a challenge to have sex for 30 days straight. And I think we made it two days.

Okay, so let's start back on the fact that you started the challenge and you ended the challenge.

Yeah. I was like, this isn't gonna work.

Okay, well, in the spirit of challenges, we have an amazing couple here from Dubai. Probably the biggest, coolest wedding I've ever seen on social media. Much bigger than our wedding and much cooler than our wedding. Of course, back in the day when we did get married, we had no money, we were broke, and I was doing nothing. I was going to be a server at a restaurant and be a PE Teacher long time from then, we have never had a professional athlete on the show besides myself.

Okay.

This is our first time playing for the real Madrid. We also have a superstar announced today, his partner in crime. Also our second Real housewife on our show. No, third. Third. Yeah, third. You're familiar with him from California, but we have one of the Real housewives of Dubai here. This is a power couple bringing us a new short knit conversation today with a whole bunch of dynamic twists. Welcome, Caroline and Sergio to the. Hello, you guys, all the way from Dubai. How are you today?

Great. Thank you for having us. Nice to be with you.

Very excited in here too. So, Sergio, tell me, when did your. When did your Instagram game really kick in? Because this is what the listeners want to know. You have skills on the Instagram and you had skills on the field. How have you been able to play this game of being a supportive Instagram husband? All of our listeners are constantly wondering about this.

Actually, it really kick in when I met Kara, to be honest. But I always be a fan of social media. I'm passionate about creating content. I love perspective and angles. That's really my passion, and I think that's why I love doing what I do. When you.

When you were playing, when you were playing professionally, like, was. Was. Was the camera ever in your hand? Did you ever participate with a camera in your hand? Were you doing the social media at the time where you're playing, or was that everybody else's cameras were on top of you?

No, I was never doing that. But, you know, I think, you know, I got a degree in international business, then I Focus on digital marketing and media and global communication. So that was my master's, and that's why I think that's where the passion comes from and how I learned to kind of do what I. What I do.

Okay, Caroline, how did you snatch up this.

How did you guys meet?

Talk to us about how you met, how you two first met for the. Who saw who the first time. Did you see him playing?

No, no, I never. I've never seen him playing because it was in. I was 43 and getting divorced, and I had three children. They were like nine and 12 twins. And he was. I was doing a live podcast with. With a whole load of women in Newport beach, and he was in the audience.

I wasn't meant to be there. Someone invited me, and, you know, the day.

So you were sitting in the audience while she's on their show and you're watching her. So you didn't see him first?

No, we kind of clicked in the beginning, but then, you know, ended up staying. She was talking, and, you know.

And when I saw, you know, they say picture the audience naked, I was always off.

You're like, I want to see that body naked. Okay, so, Sergio, you're sitting in the audience. You're seeing Carolina up on the show. She's doing the show. What are you thinking? Are you thinking right out of the gate, oh, my God, this one's it. I've got to go get her. Or were you. What? Talk to me about you.

I think there was something that clicked on me a little bit, and I was like, oh, my God. We're kind of, like, looking at each other, you know, from far. And I was like, wow, this is weird. And then, you know, it's just very funny how everything, you know, I ended up staying three hours until the show finished.

And then.

And the end, I was leaving, and she said out loud, oh, my God, my future husband is leaving. She said to me that, no, you did not.

Did you actually feel that, Caroline, when you saw him and connected with an audience? Were you feeling that with him?

Well, I thought it was hot. I was making a joke. But who knew that landed.

So who. So who asked who out first? Like, you saw this. The connection happens on the show. You make the comment, sergio asks you out. I know. Great. That night.

No, really. He's like.

He drove six hours to take me out.

He's like, yeah, I did some crazy stuff.

Crazy.

In the beginning, earlier stage in the relationship, there was, like, so many I had to push because imagine I was 24, and I lied to her in the beginning, I said to her I was 33, then I went down to 28 and then 24. So I knew I had to just really put the big pants on to push to us.

Okay, so, Caroline, he's younger than you. How old is your oldest child? You have, you have teenagers? We have teenagers too.

Yeah. My oldest is 19. Okay. Just turned 30.

So am I.

Okay, so you're, you're in the pocket on this. Age wise, you're in kind of that gap. What's, what's your mind thinking, Caroline? Had you dated somebody this young before?

Hell no. No idea. I wasn't planning on dating that someone this year. I mean, I, I've always been. I was married for 18 years. I was planning on dating anyone. I was planning, having fun, actually. Escort me some fun. I thought he was 31 and I thought. But when we got to 24, I was in slip. No fucking way. No.

Did you guys know there was that big of an age gap like you right when you met him?

Well, I mean, I came on stage and said, I'm 43, divorced with three kids.

Somehow I didn't listen. But then, you know, we had to get to know each other. And you know, she never really asked my age, you know, until I think we're three months in.

He looks older. What you did when you stayed for the first time. I actually had admission too laugh. I had to set it back on. So how you're like, it got weird.

I have the opposite problem. Sergio. My wife always wants me to shave my beard off because she thinks, no.

When we're out, you're setting only seven years apart. But when he has a big beard and it's gray, people think we're more like 15 years apart. And I'm like, babe, you need to shave your beard.

No, she just worried about feeling like a sugar bait.

Well, we live in the Middle east and there's no one this way around. Two ways younger women, it's very rare.

In this part of the world to have like a dummy husband, you know, older wife.

So, Sergio, knowing that you were going down the path of doing something, that's against the Middle Eastern way of going for an older woman. What was it you were feeling about her that had you say, not only I'm putting a big man pants on, I'm going to pursue this amazingly beautiful older woman. Like, what was going on in you? Because you could add. I mean, you got options, bro. You're a good looking man, You're a professional soccer player. You got amazing smile, you Fucking can dance. I watch that on the Instagram. I saw it.

I'm the worst anti in the planet, bro.

I was giving you credit.

I can't stop.

Yes, let me fire from that.

Well, he dad did this.

So what was, what was going on in you that had you say, hey, listen, this is. I'm. I'm getting this one. I'm hunting her down. I want this woman. What? Knowing the age gap, knowing you had options everywhere. She had options, you had options, but this was like the option for you?

Honestly, I have no idea. She was living in Dubai at the moment. You know, I didn't know anything. You know, I was living in Newport beach in California. She was staying in LA and newborn between both of them and, you know, I just didn't know anything about herself. Nothing, you know. And I mean, she said she had to keep her. I didn't really, you know, it didn't click on me, to be honest. I thought she was 33 years old. There's like cute, good looking girl and I think we have some, you know, very unique connections. From the beginning, you know, I didn't really know where I was going. I was just, you know, just going with the feelings until I got to the point that all of a sudden, I don't know, I came back to Madrid with three kids already grown up, my girlfriend at that moment and my banker, like, oh my God. Like, what's. Like, what is happening here?

That was Genesis.

Yeah, I was just like, how did your family feel about it? Were they like, what are you thinking? This is crazy. Or did they see like the.

Yeah, no, this is crazy.

My. I mean, I think we made news everywhere. It was just. It was a crazy thing, you know, like I was a toy boy, you know, like sex slave. They called me everything new telling the planet. And then my mom cried. You know, my dad even, you know, it was very funny because he offered, you know, he said, look, I bet you $50,000 after, by September you're not together. Because it was a bit crazy. And then, you know, I said that on interviews and then all the news, he was like, you know, that offer him money to leave cougar or something, you know, has to do with this. So many rumors and things happening. But I think at the end of the day, it made us so strong together and, you know, we became so close to each other because it felt like everybody was against us, you know.

Yeah, yeah. How do you tune out the noise? You know, you have your family members, culture, like everything is just on you guys. All the Time. How do you tune out the noise and stay connected?

Well, I mean, I've been on TV over 10 years. I did how Ladyhood, London as well. So I'm a grand business, a very big business learner. I'm always used to be talked about sir breeder. More business for him. And he was a real Madrid.

I mean, Sam, so good. You know, I always had the kind of spotlight Sampal, you know, so everybody talks all the way. But, you know, I don't know, I think, you know, I always take it as a. As something astronomy and just who's far there. And I think that's what I did, you know, I didn't listen. Just go. We hit him.

And then if he hadn't been so committed, I would have 100% developed.

Matt has it.

Yeah.

We have a friend that's on Orange County Housewives and she's new to the season and she's like, I have a hard time ignoring it. And I'm like, well, I'm sure like within time. She's like, we have to decide all the time, like, what battles we're gonna fight and what ones we're not. Do you guys ever find, like, if somebody says something really nasty or you're like, no, I'm not gonna be quiet on this one. Do you ever find like, you need to even entertain that or you just like, whatever.

Whatever.

Yeah, I mean, it happened on a daily basis. Or a post on Instagram. We post, you know, everywhere. We are so exposed. Our life is so public that at the end it's just part of our life, you know, you like it this Join the ride. It's not how you know. Yeah.

So that piece of exposure is new for a lot of couples. Right. So you get couples like yourselves and Danielle and I get all our life is online. Everybody sees our shit. They find out about our 3 year old whose favorite word is motherfucker right now. And she flips everyone off. She's learned how to flip everyone off. So now the nannies are trying to teach her how to wind it back in so we can try to corral it a bit. So in that place of exposure, like most, most couples are not willing to be exposed. What would you say for you two as a couple, knowing that the world is seeing you, everything you're doing, and they're watching everything you're doing. How does that actually help you to as a couple? Because a lot of couples think that being exposed or being seen for the full truth of their lives is a problem that we've experienced the opposite. But how do you think all that pressure has actually brought you closer with all the shit talking and people running the mouse? Caroline, what do you think?

We feel the same. Like, it kind of brings us toso because we have such a tight bubble. There's not really anything that anyone couldn't say that would affect us like that. We really genuinely don't care. I've been in a marriage, you know, first of all, being on TV as long as I have, in something like Bravo and House Flight, right? And on Ladies of London, you have all these little keyboard warriors that will look up anything and everything on you. So if you have shit, it's coming out my shit, you know, my shit's already out. Like, anything that's there, it's there. So there's nothing to expose. He was 24 and when I met him, and since then he's been in training since he was, you know, 15 at Real Madrid. So other than go to cab and maybe sleep with a few women, what else is coming out? It was so opaque. So we're very comfortable with all our.

Skeletons that I think, as far as the foundation that you have together is very strong and very clean and transparent. You know, it's going to build you up and, you know, you. You can only grow ticket.

It's probably kind of freeing. You're like, we're already exposed. What. What else. What more are you going to say? You know, a lot of people kind of like, can't share that side with their business or whatever it is, and they kind of like, have these skeletons and you're like, it. It's on the table. Like, what else? What else am I going to do? How do your kids feel about it? Like, with your. Was it weird for your kids, you like, knowing you're with a younger man, or were they always good with it?

At the beginning, they loved him. Then they found out that we were dating a date, and then obviously had a heart attack.

It was really funny because they used to say, oh, my God, that soccer player friend, he's amazing. He's so funny. He's so nice. And all the time when they know, you know, I became, you know, that. That, you know, that person from their lives who was kind of replacing me. Not, you know, that, you know, like someone who works with their. With their mother. It was a big thing. And they, you know, it was very tough to be an ex doing, I would say, six to eight months. You know, it would be tough. And then when they realized I was there to stay and I was there Just to support them in a way, you know, they were very happy.

So when coming into the role as husband. Fiance, husband. Boyfriend is fiance, husband. And now you have these children that are in your life.

Like, we.

I have tons of my friends as well, tons of my clients that have gone through divorces or situations, and they're coming together with another woman, and she has children, and now they get to play this interesting role because is it father? Is her father still in the. In the scene with the kids or no? Caroline? Yes. Okay. So again, that was from our friends yet from yesterday, we're hanging out, like, coming over, same situation, kids. Some of the kids leave to go be a dad, but then they have the kind of the child together. How has that, Sergio, been for you, being as young as you are and coming into it, knowing you got these kids who are going to look up to you as a father figure, you're not their father, but you kind of are in a role of father. Like, what's that mentally been like for you? Because a lot of men are facing this right now with just rising divorce rates, particularly here in the US and, like, new relationships coming together with blended families. But what have you found for yourself? I mean, explained a little bit. Go a little bit deeper in that for you.

I'm very family oriented. You know, Ms. Pani is Latino. We have a big family, and for me, everything is our family. And I understood if I wanted to, you know, create something with Caroline, the first thing I needed to do before her, it was giving in any way I could love to, you know, her kids, because that was just, you know, that's the priority for her, you know, before me. And I understood that very early. So, you know, I went through a lot. It was kind of like punching a wall, you know, because it was just, you know, as much as I give, I give, I give, then I don't get anything back, because it's just the role, you know, I played for them until they understood I was there to stay. But, you know, I never really, you know, I never really asked for anything. You know, I was just always supporting. You know, it was very difficult for me because I was, you know, I wanted to be cool as a, you know, let's say older brother, but also I wanted to get that respect from them, you know, as an adult. So it was very pickled for the age cup because they never had really, you know, it would have been so different. I would be 50 years old, you know, almost 23, you know, 24. So it was a. It was a Very big thing now they get to a point and they, you know, they understood the role I played and they respected but you know, I never really oped them to support pg. All signs.

So do you guys, would you guys have kids together?

So we did IBM and we have a baby boy on eyes ready to go. But we are, we are thinking about it. To be honest. We don't know what's gonna happen. You know, I kind of want it because I love kids, but I know that our life will change a lot. You know, it is.

So just in case you go unfrozen.

Yeah, I love how you said that.

We got a little guy on ice. He's ready to go. He's just sitting in the shower. We actually looked at a surrogate on it. So we have four daughters together and our lack, her third pregnancy was so rough with our five year old that we actually looked into that for the.

Last one and then I accidentally got pregnant. So I was like, well, I guess we're doing it again.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Is this like a Caroline where you, where you have this? You ready? You ready to have another baby with a surrogate?

Well, I'm 49 in April and I kind of feel like I've done it and mine are leaving and I can't wait to have in a bad way. But it's like, you know, life is good right now. So, you know, and I love having them at home. My son's at home, my kilcha. But you know, I love my life with him and travel and not easy.

Because now, you know, the kids go one week with the father and then one week with us. They go with the father.

Normally go back to a baby starting over. Oh my God.

We have so much freedom. If you see we're scheduled from now to the next four months, I mean.

Yeah, we're going to like Monroe. It is a boat that is seen.

And we go everywhere, the us everywhere. So it is, you know, in Bali. So our life is really crazy in that way. And I think that really keeps us going and, you know, brings us back to be Miami. You know, it'd be like I don't know how we met, you know, which was like a wild ride. So having a little guy, you know.

You will think this adds to the story, you know, just adds to the story. So we joke around all the time because we have teenagers and then we had an eight year gap and then we have toddlers. I'm 42, he's almost 49. And I'm always like, you did this to us. Like. Like, I feel like I've been changing diapers for, like, 20 years. I'm like. And I'm still going. So, like, I get it. I'm like, I'm getting tired. I don't know. Like, it literally was, like, starting over for us, but, I mean, and now I'm like, I love them to pieces. I wouldn't trade it for the world. But it is. It is a shit show at our house days.

Yeah, it would definitely change.

I can do it without the show. I mean, I'm just getting through it. And I, I. You know, I'm thinking we will have.

We'll have eventually. We have.

Hey, I, like, listen, I don't doubt it, Sergio. You hunted her down. You said you saw her in the audience. You're like, I already. I already can tell. You're like, when you decide it's happy, I say no.

That little embryo is going to end up in the surrogate, so it will.

Be here in the next podcast we do in couple of years, so don't worry.

Yeah, yeah. There you go.

Listen, you roll that apart, too. Like, it's so different now.

You can take so much help, create.

You to run with you around everybody.

And you have some baby. It's amazing, you know? Like, it's so much easier here, you know?

Yeah.

How long have you guys been married?

We marry now. What? Four years.

Almost four years.

Okay.

The wedding looked like off the charts. Where was the wedding?

At Raffles. And.

And the pine, the palm.

Look, the 8th. It was like a. It's a palace. And it was. Honestly, it was just a dream, to be honest.

How many people were at the wedding?

No, nothing.

Oh, you changed.

I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell because it was. It was like everybody was so done up. I was like, dude, this is a serious wedding.

And I really wanted it to be my first wedding. I had over 700, so I really wanted a small wedding.

So we have, like, two weddings. One in Mauritius where we signed legally the papers, and that was in an island, you know, just, you know, marrying.

The four seasons in the nourishes on the water.

It wasn't the same. It was 10 people. And then we did like the kind of like the show within a bit bigger.

Bridezilla.

Yeah.

Okay, so how do you determine going as fast as you are? How do you two determine as a couple who you allow into your inner circle? Right, because we have all this attention, all these people. Everybody wants shit, and people always have angles with you, and we're constantly Facing this, too, which is, like, scrutinizing.

Yes.

Like, who we bring in, who we don't bring in, who we allow into the inner sanctum of the, like, the actual tribe with us. How do you two both. And this is a question for both of you and Sergio, I'll start with you. Like, how do you determine who you're going to let into? And I mean, like, like in relationship with your team in like an intimate way, not just like, hey, I know you. Let's do some pictures. Let's do some business. You're good. You're. I'm good. But how do you determine who gets invited into that?

I used to be much more open, I would say, with that kind of like just allowing people into or inner circle. But then I think I. I have this sense of. I kind of read people a little different the beginning. And I think I'm much tougher than Caroline. Caroline is more like a societal butterfly. You know, everybody, we kind of just, you know, and then I kind of, you know, I. I'm a bit more selected, you know, like, so I think between both of us, we kind of balance that and, you know, but I mean, you know, it's just. I mean, it's like anything, you know, like, some people, you know, everybody goes with a good open heart that's either just, you know, me, people want to open, you know, but suddenly there's these people who just want to take, you know, and we are givers, you know, we just keep. Because we love helping people. We love, you know, see people grow. So it's just trying to find a balance together.

Caroline, how long have you been on the show?

This one. I've done two seasons. My last show, I did four. So total, like the six years on Bob it.

Oh, wow, okay.

So you figured out the angles of everybody wanting to get a piece of you. So how have you. How do you determine, Caroline, who you let in versus who you.

I mean, look, before I did House Life, I had a huge business. I was bought. I had investors. Artemis, you know, the largest fund in Europe. $22 billion under management. I had carpool warehouse at 87 employees.

People always work as a gift.

And only all my clients were, you know, from the Ecclestons to the Gettys to. I know everyone because of it. And every single big name used to come to me, like, Dubai, everyone lands, they call us. They're literally us. So, you know, there isn't a Fenny was person that doesn't land and call us, whether they know us or not. And we so I've gone to lock canceler but a lot of times you know we're also Dubai small were very very well known when I moved here there weren't any famous people I was but me and Lindsay Goham are the only two so I've been here a long time. I've built a very big network reputation miss or anyone that works to do business or whatever they always built me so look do I I've learned how to do business here and with I've learned who I let in and who I want to everyone says do you want to meet this person back that's I always say more now we don't.

Really exceed honestly new people that's that's.

The truth I don't meet new friends I've got quite a lot and I've got very powerful friends of all the right places so luckily I pretty good on there and so no I don't really. I don't really let anyone in it.

You know Dubai is very different than the US Dubai is only 55 years old you know so there's this you.

Know and we've been here 12 years so you know I've been 12 years so I literally go everywhere so you know to. For me to walk people straight in places that's why they cool I. I'm fully aware of it now got it.

How do you. With all the. All the. All the attention all the things you're doing. How do you two. What do you two do to carve out time with each other away from cameras, away from kids, away from media. Like what. What does that look like for you two to just have you time nobody else trapped trouble.

Yeah how much I it will really you know brings us together we go out to Emma leaves you know I mean Indonesia, Thailand. We. We. We always we really love the growing.

Whale diving in in November we were on a boat for the summer we travel and travel and travel we do.

Some farming lots of fun things that you know now we're trying new Malays to. There was no boat no one knows us and we are isolated so it's just it really we just to get there but I've been there we spend.

All our time together. Yeah you know where we get proper.

When you're in that alone time. Sergio, what are you. What are some of the like the critical topics that you guys discuss like things as a couple where like these are the repeating themes of things we're either working on or things we're excited about.

I mean you know we're very driven, both of us. So, you know, we, you know, somehow, you know, business always comes to a table. So we just, you know, it's a very good reflection time to see where we are, to see where we want to go, but also to analyze a picture and see, you know, what are we doing. Right. What. So we change and, you know, I mean, we. We really love what we do. So to be honest, it's not really like, you know, a disconnect time, you know.

Do you guys ever fight or are you still in, like, the newly, newlywed stage?

Oh, no, no.

You fight.

Yeah, yeah. I, We.

We always have, like, our common themes. I'm like, we're. We're really circling back on this again.

Yeah. What are the things that cause in your relationship? What are the topics that create the collisions? Like, what are the conversations? Because when you're on a business together.

Yeah.

And then you're spending all the time together, inevitably things get. But for us, it crosses up too. That's why we had to separate both of our brands and our businesses. And we kind of come together in the concept together now. And I run my businesses and she runs her companies, and we kind of have this in between because we tried it together for years and we couldn't figure it out.

We're both trying to be the boss.

Yeah. We both couldn't be the boss. Was too much.

Usually we don't argue about business.

The most important thing is that we figure out the more roles we do best. And we, We. We know what we do. So, you know, we bring each other to a table. But then we. Business. We don't really find any. For companies. It's more about just the age difference. You know, obviously I'm, I'm.

You know, he's healthy. I. If I go out and with the girls or whatever, I want to go and be absolutely batshit wasted and have a good night. And that drive me nuts because he thinks I'm gonna die.

Change.

He's like, then I can't list. You know, it's like he doesn't devix. Literally, I'm a day. And then it's a big one now.

Yeah. I'm very passionate about life and all doing things. And Caroline is more like the city of infinitely. So much older. So she's done pretty much everything in life. So it's just a bit of like, go, I'm. Go, go, go, go, go. It's just more like, you know, the sequence that I like, I like my afternoon now. Yeah. Okay.

So, yeah, I was like, I TCM all the time. Like every Sunday. I'm like, is it 2 it your nap time, babe?

No, no, no.

Free.

She says that to me, makes fun of me on the beach as she sleeps until 8:30 in the morning while I run our toddlers from 6am hardcore in the paint until 2pm and then she's like, oh, I'm laying at the beach and why are you tired? I was like, you sat around, had a drink of mimosa and tried on shoes all morning. What are you talking about? Yeah, okay, so spiritual path, God, source, energy. What is this for you, Caroline?

Well, my mother is Church of England and my father is Jewish, so I'm not the most religious person. I believe that there is something and everybody looks the same, actually. And I believe that we all have something that we need to be. And I love energy. I love manifestation with these content from gratitudes. We do a lot of that. I'm not praying to God every day, but he does.

I. I'm Catholic. I'm very, you know, very Catholic, very Catholic. And I believe, you know, everything happened to me. My God, he was. Because, you know, I mean, you know, I. I believe in God a lot.

You know, I carries the word dream everywhere. Okay.

Try to go to the church, you know, when I can stuff.

And.

And you know, and then in very.

Good drinking, smoking by a murder.

He went. He went, found his wild one. Listen, this how it rolls for us too, because, like, I. So I'm very, very deep in my faithful Christ and very deep in my belief in God for me. And she's the Buddhist one that worships the agave guides, AKA Tequila. So. But we have like this fun. This fun relationship where I'm the one like you, where I'm like, hey, can we.

You gotta.

They reel it in. Party to start over here and she'll like, go off the rails with her girlfriends. And then I'm like, okay, okay.

He does the same thing. He's like, always super concerned. And I'm like, hey, like, I'm fine. Worry about you. Like. But I grew up very.

It drives me nuts. No one wants to wake up in the morning, be reminded of anything, have a good time. Like, worry about this.

Yeah, you'll make us feel guilty. Like, we.

It's only when I have to pick you up and carry you out of the, out of the car to the, to the bed.

That's every once in a while that's just the same. I agree.

Like, you're joking. Is. He jokes as if it's like every fucking Day. Well, if it was well and meek, it should still be fine.

No, we only live once.

You only live like the athlete minds, bro. I got you. We're like, what? We didn't get focused. We'll be up at 4 o'. Clock. What time do you wake up, Sergio?

Very early. I love, you know, early, early morning. Yeah. Not 4:00am, not 4:00am but, you know, I mean, like, I don't know, like 6. Yeah.

You're a dentist. He wakes up at like 2:30 or 3 in the morning. I'm like, that's the middle of the night. And then he. Disney crap. Because I wake up.

A Lego.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Our teenagers. I go to bed about 9:30, 10. Yeah, that's about five hours. Four and a half. Five hours.

Yeah.

It's wild.

I don't, I don't need a lot of situation.

The problem with us is we, you know, we, we. We are, you know, out a lot because, you know, business and everything. So it's a. It's a bit difficult for a lot of dinners and things. So, you know, a lot of people, you know, talking about the drinking. A lot of people go out and they just drink once a week. The br. We are out every day. You know, we have to kind of like find a balance on the healthy lifestyle and also trying to just maintain our social life, you know, so it's a.

You know, I was gonna say it's hard. Like, we've had a few times where we go to events and stuff and I'm like, my social battery is done. Like, I can't go out every single night. How do you. Do you guys have seasons where it's just like, do you have to say no to opportunities or is it just like constantly going out here?

Mail in Dubai, we say not to.

A lot, but the trouble is people visited. Then you feel that we have to see that every single week somebody important is arriving.

They feel that they think.

We think that you're not, you know.

Yeah. And then here the system is not like in the US the whole year. There's things going on here. You know, summer, it gets very, very hot. So, you know, let's say November, December, January in is crazy. It's like, you know, it became powder, you know.

Yeah. We've had to. We've had to say no to a lot in the last. Since moving to Miami because.

Bad. But then it's like, you're like, no, I just need. Like, I can't. I don't have the social body for it. I mean, certain people Will say yes to. But yeah, when it gets to the point where, especially in Miami, a lot of people come visit here. So it's like there's always somebody in town. I'm like, I can't.

My two best friends are in Miami. And so, you know, I'm so excited to see that.

Yeah, I'm sure. It's like, I mean, everything starts here. Like 10 o'.

Clock.

Yeah.

At night. We found that out real quick. We're like, hey, we're going to dinner. I was like, awesome. What time? 9:30. I was like, yeah, I gotta wake up at 2:30. How are we gonna do this? How's it gonna work out? So how. How does the creative side with business since you guys have found your roles and how you play, Are you actually in business together? Like, is Sergio not part of the brand with you?

Everyone?

Okay, got it. So how did, how did you get to a place where you could divide those roles clearly for each other? Because this is a conflict constantly with couples that are in business together, which is being able to clearly define what those are. It's what we. We finally defined our roles, which is, here's my business, here's yours. And we share executive teams that operate from both sides. But how. How did you guys get to a point where you could actually clarify, hey, this is what you're doing. This is what I'm doing. And you actually respect each other in those roles because there's a ton of crossover we watch happen with hundreds of couples where the war zone over roles and whose ideas what and how to play it together.

I think you're right there to me because, you know, luckily for us, we don't really clarify what our roles are. It's just, it just, you know, it dissolves by itself to just, you know, she ended up doing her things that she knows best and I ended up doing my thing. So then it kind of just rolls.

Together, you know, and we brought a few companies together and they do very different things. Like women's retreats. Okay. Let's just say that. Right. He actually cannot come on those ring because the women. But he can do the stuff like.

The technical guy behind us. Yeah.

It's not holy all the funnels or the, you know, taking of the money, doing all of that, you know. Right, right again. Doing all the advertising then from then on. It's neat. Right. My team. So you pretty clear and easy.

The real estate was some of those, you know, like, see, you know, I, for example, I'm will be in a hotel in Bali. So all that is my part C. Just four over a seat, transfer visa, you know, I do all that, see overseas, all the stuff and then the other way around here, here, you know.

All the ones here I like all the. I find them and I renovate them. And then, you know, all your.

The cities, the thing from, you know.

The building works, the management, all of that. So they have five in construction now and then, you know. So he will go and like check the. All the. All the.

Let me see where the guy is. The.

Yeah, you'll do all this on time. But I'm just doing. I've done all the decor, I've supplied all the, you know, all the furniture they need, all the, you know, fixtures and fittings, everything they need, all the plans they need. And he does the rest.

The day to day operations on that is the hair. And my day to day, for example, is the headset.

My podcast, right. It goes and run by Dear Media and Barabbach. I'm sure you know that. And I worked with them for five years, so I obviously do the podcast and he, he. I would sneak us all of it, the clips, the this with that, the teams do all this and everything is ready.

I run editor, for example, because we have an old.

I never even look. I don't even know it's out till the gate's out. I don't sit down and do it. So when I was my manager, it is so many things. It's just natural, you know, like if I design the panic or he's doing the website, like I didn't want to do that.

Right. Yeah, you're like the visionary and he's like the back end.

Yeah.

So on that Caroline question for you, so you're a powerful woman. You've been creating for a long time. You've created a lot of success. I'm around a lot of powerful women. Wife is one of them. We're around a ton. And there's a level where my experience with powerful women is that some point they want to put the swords down, put the shield down and be protected and taken care of by a man or a woman. They had a powerful couple of years, same situation, but like it's a. It's a game where you're constantly fighting to build, build, build, build, build, build, build. But a moment of being able to just submit into. I don't have to build shit. I don't want to think about shit. My guy can take it from here. How is that dynamic played out with you two knowing Sergio age, but also coming into Relationship. Because it's where we see a lot of rub for a lot of women here in the US too.

Yeah. I was gonna say, like, for me, it's like, I can run my business, but also, like, I'm like, I want you to take care of me. You know, it's like balancing that feminine and masculine mole. And it's like he does everything.

Yeah, Literally everything. He's outbreak. You always got for me.

Today, I do everything.

Everything is my team needs.

People think of the toy movie, but, like, literally, I run.

You know, I can literally just lie like this. And he puts all the cameras around.

He just Iran Caroline Willoughby. Caroline. Because she's just. She's just this. The princess.

Does he live like that? Like, he literally worships and takes care of me.

But I like it because I have energy and I, you know, I. I, you know, for me, it's about making happy that people where I live it.

I could stay and eat a cup.

Of tea and a piston when I eat meat.

Giving.

I hated this.

No, he'll do anything for me. I'm not worried about that. That's copper. There you go.

So we got that piece coming.

I want a tea and a biscuit.

What the hell's getting me here? You make me look bad right now. She's like, hey, give it to whatever you ask me for a bottle of water in the middle of the night every night, and I go get it. So there. There's my tea. I get you some tea in the middle of the night. So how does it go the other direction with Caroline knowing that this is your guy and he's covering that sign?

Nothing for him. I don't even do, like, cards. Zero. I'm terrible, actually. I do. I buy your clothes.

There are a few things.

I go and choose clothes I can't bear.

It's not like I'm not like a spender, you know, I don't like to. I have enough things. I mean, we have. We don't need anything else. Caroline is all constantly just, oh, my God, I need this, this, this, this, you know, like, she's the one who spends everything, you know, but she loves it, so I'm fine with that. And then, see, you know, she will do my shopping. She buys things, you know, and all that I style, you know?

Yeah, all men need these.

We're fashion. We get dressed. Die. Boo.

Every day.

Sergio, don't worry, bro. I have the. I have, like, the same T shirts from my brand and the same pants and the same Nike shoes, and I wear them every Day, my closet looks exactly.

We're going on date night. I'll be like, hey, I'm going to bring you an outfit. So just so you're at home, too.

I don't dress myself.

Like, you don't care?

No, I don't care. How did you get. A lot of guys have a hard time with this idea of. Because a lot of producing men I know don't care, Sergio, about buying a lot of shit. They'll buy cars and look, he never buys planes or do whatever, but, like, they don't really care. But they're. They have a hard time supporting the buying game. But it's also different with the fact that Caroline produces her own inside of this. Like, this is. This is like a very complicated conversation for a lot of couples, which is like, hey, I want to be with you, but you also want to buy this, all this stuff. And that's great. More handbags, more shoes, more things. I don't know what's left.

Are you resentful of the handbags in the shoes, like, at all?

It's part.

I mean, yeah, sometimes I collect Hermes.

Sometimes I complain because she goes crazy until upset. That's.

You know, we're going to Paris now to get one.

We are only flying to Paris to get a bag. Now I'm like, okay, so, you know, six hours, nine hours, like tickets, hotels, to get a pack. I mean, was it for him? But yes, he loves it.

See, See, babe, Sergio gets it.

Hey, I get it. We were in Paris and I was drinking champagne from 8 in the morning to late at night, where you just bought shit for like nine straight days.

I was like, this is fun for me. Why don't you watch me when you're happy?

Well, you know what? I. It's a big part of my brand. Okay. I'm on Housewives first of all. Yeah, I do. I still do tv. I'm, you know, doing TV this year with, you know, for the shows and stuff. And, you know, I will have. I have a certain. It's a business right now, Italy. This. I've got a stylist from England upstairs, for example.

That's a big. We have big fight, like two weeks ago. Because, you know, because of this, I'm like.

And she's made my lookbook the whole summer crazy. I don't want to pack. I don't want to do it. I don't want to think about it. I want it done. I'm going to a hundred different places.

Oh, these, these 80 something pages of. Do you think this is Normal.

This is normal. I'm going to give it to my housekeeper and say pack this, pack this.

So that is. That is Caroline Stanbury. When you understand that that is Caroline, then you can want one of those.

Listen, this show is completely burying me right now because now she's. Now she's seeing me with a playbook. You guarantee to see you guys again, she's going to have the playbook. Now Sergio, I feel for you.

Mike. Why didn't I get footage of my outfits? I don't want to film for you.

This is good.

Planting of seed like cow pack.

I give it to my housekeepers. I give her the picture like happened.

Not even the past four like she did.

Oh my God.

He just goes to the.

I went all the way to the airport without my handbag, my passport, all my luggage because I expected things to happen.

Did you show up.

It three hours ago.

So literally she just goes to life. Like I don't know how she was living through life. He going through life just thinking that.

I do everything behind because he goes, you have nothing. It was three hours away, the airport and I got there and I've like I was flying to do the housewife wives reunion and she was bothering me. You who leaves the house without their hand back and doesn't realize I usually just take it.

Do you normally bring your handbag?

I mean I don't party. Hum.

That's your job.

It gets, it gets assumed ser feeling for you. Listen, once you start search of our passports, once you start doing something nice and then, and then they receive it, it becomes normal. And then when it's normal they expect it every single time.

He opens the car door for me all the time and when he doesn't, I find myself just standing there looking at the door, worries it's going to open.

Caroline yesterday she went to a gym and she text me and she sent me a photo of her sitting on the. On the co pilot and I'm like what is she doing?

I have a bright white Bentley. Okay. So it's quite flashy around here. So I got into the passenger seat instead of the driver's seat but it was a man in front of me so I was too embarrassed to get out. I waited there 25 minutes in the passenger seat because I don't drive normally to leave.

And she sent me, we had a whole conversation with photos in the concert.

And I just sat in this car I didn't get today by the way. I'm not driving. I don't drive.

There were six.

Yes. Rolling me Fully.

So many, many years. And now he drives. I don't go anywhere without. Was only to the gym. So I'm not used to that.

I like cars. I don't like driving, you know, driver drive. The key for me is not, you know, I like driving, you know.

Yeah.

So, okay, so I don't.

I don't like to drive in traffic. So I. I usually get a driver when. Any kind of traffic.

But so does this. Does this transfer into. Into your sex and intimacy game? This Sergio just guides you to do.

Everything well in the sex? Yeah, I mean, actually the same. See, doesn't move. Sees like a nightmare. See anything? Are you Everything.

But it still translates to the bedroom.

He's really good at it.

I'm really good. Actually. I got so good now because I had to do everything. Listen.

This is good, though, Sergio. Now all we got to do is we just got to get your playbook. Like, she's got her clothing playbook, and then you can hand her the playbook beforehand. Here's what we're.

I'm sure I would make million with that. So this. This.

We watch a lot of couples, like, a very high volume of couples. They go through. They go in and out of seasons with sexuality and intimacy. Like, how important is this to you two as a couple? Like, whether you're guiding it. Sergio. And she's just playing along that way. Listen, me and Danielle have had, like, all kinds of conversation over the year about it. I'm like, hey, listen, I'd like you to participate, which is like, I want you to want me in this, not just be there.

I like that happening.

Yeah. So, like, for you guys, like, how. How do you. Like, how do you prioritize it? Because we watched all kinds of couples, particularly busy couples where they're gone. Athletes that are gone during the season with their spouses back home for like three, four months, or they're just busy all the time.

Is this a priority?

How do you make three times a day? It'd be good. That is the problem.

I was gonna.

But I can't. I'm 49. He'll kill me out there.

Well, I'm very. You know, because me. Because my, you know, professional athlete passed. I have a lot of testosterone, so.

I need the amount of anyone. I took him to hospital. I thought he was.

Because it never went down. And they used to be.

I did hop on said to me, it's because he is. Used to be running all the time. And he doesn't do that anymore.

He has to.

I'm like, oh, My God, he's going to kill me.

So, you know, it's very important than our life and you know, for example, this play with the craziest sex ever, you know. But you know, I just give you best.

It's very important. It's very important we solve everything that way.

Yeah, exactly. See if this, this was like. Like forever with us. This was the whole pass I was trying to explain to her.

I was like, easy button, you've been married for 20 years, 21 years. And I was like, when is he gonna slow down? Like he still hasn't slowed down.

Never.

It's amazing.

Well, that's good.

That's very good.

Yeah, see I know I'm. It's. It's.

It's.

It's good. It stopped in my last marriage and.

I couples, you know, like after I think a ten year break then we're.

At seven years now together. I always still like, yeah, dyke.

In your reset, it stopped in your last marriage?

Yeah.

Was that. Did that create a lot of disconnection and then eventually kind of. Was that why the.

Well I think just young kids and more the, the travel. He was traveling but you just can't be bothered sometimes. And then it just. The longer you go without it, the less you need it, I find. And that is a dangerous thing to get into. And it becomes a chore at the end of the day because let's face it, by the time you've got kids, you're all exhausted and no one really knows. Nobody thinks it's amazing when. Yeah. And every time you do make it.

Special for me, I think I try to just you know, make time for it and in the entire. I just, you know, because then the. Once you get into it it's amazing. But obviously you have very witches cancer. You're Thai. And then you know. So I just.

The thought of it per minute is okay. Like I'm in for America, You know. And also I think our travel is something as well that keeps that really going because there's no kids in the house obviously. My sons are 15 years old and as to. To them we don't have sex either because they walking into the room all the time, they never, they don't see it. I'm not allowed to lock my door or they go bananas.

So I, we. That's a. Like. Because we have so many kids we find like traveling for us is like when you connect the most because you just. You're not worried about kids like walking to or knocking or anything. It's just you're Just so free.

Just on the plane. You feel so good.

Yes, yes. Both locations. No stress? No. Well, she doesn't, she doesn't unwind from the kids until we're out of the country. And it's about day number three where like she's. All of a sudden there's this woman that I always knew comes back by day four, she forgets she has kids by day five, she forgets she has a business by day six, I'm like, this is a wild one.

I do that though. I have to like literally like mentally check out from business and kids and then it allows us to like connect and have fun and. But like you honestly, people ask us all the time because we have kids in business and everything. I'm like, that's why we, we travel together. Like it's important to us.

So topic, topic, spin it. I'm a spin it again on this. So when it comes to creating a bigger future together, like when it like there's where you are and no matter how big you've gotten, no matter what you've created, everything becomes normal. Right? People find first class normal. Jetson becomes normal. Five star, six star hotels become normal. Things just get normal. And in normal, there's like this place that of creating something bigger together. How do you guys use it during the vacation times? Like, how are you two envisioning bigger future, bigger lives together as you, as you're creating, even though you're already creating so much.

No, we've actually discussed this weirdly. Lazer. I'm just. My son's running. I turn it off. We discussed this last night. We don't really want a lot. No, we have very, very, very, very powerful rich friends. And I don't think it brings you happiness. It was something I more like an old, younger. I strug, you know, the big business. The big business for me when I had $22 billion worth of investors, didn't make me happy. You know, in fact it would get me more public, to be honest. We have everything. I don't need another car, I don't need another house. I don't really want them to run. And more money, more properties. I don't want more staff. Like no, I don't want. And that gives me vibes.

For us, I think it's more about the freedom. The freedom and you know, for the future, just over main goal. You know, they still have the best of income coming in for different sources and they have to be very private.

I do not want to get into anything like. But I have, I don't I'm not jealous of any of my friends with the jet, the boat, because you know what we're on to. And we're on them, we ride them. They're not our problem. And it's, you know, we're very lucky. We're very blessed. We're very generous, kind in France, in our lives, we get amazing hope stays and travel and stuff.

Yeah. At the end of the day, you think, okay, what am I building every day? What am I working so hard for.

A bit, for us to have to enjoy each other. You get so stressed out, you can't enjoy each other.

So, you know, you get so stressed.

We're good.

All these people we know in like 3,000 employees, massive companies, they're all in so much stress on a map, looking and chasing for that big, big, big exit at the end. When they get there, then what is a license, you know, and what's up for anything?

One of those money doesn't buy happiness. You know, it's like you get to this place where you fallen.

We know so many cases here in Dubai. I mean, either.

You got to understand, we live in the Middle east, right. No matter how hard you work, your core house right over here, come here poor. And that is quite refreshing because where you're trying to keep up with the Joneses in the UK or maybe Miami, you cannot do that here. Way bigger. Right. So, like, you're never going to be able to compete. And that makes you just go, you know what? I'm popular.

Yeah. Made you realize that the chasing of something is not really, you know, it's not really knocking they're chasing. It's about your inner goal and your peace and like having the freedom.

The most, the most expensive thing I think I ever bought was freedom and peace. Inside, I don't pick up with worry. I was sued for eight years. I don't have anything. Like, I won everything. I have, you know, dealt with all that. I'm never going back into the corporate world. I'm never going back into the place where I need investors. I am never going to.

And I.

We fund everything we sell, drink a chill of everything.

We decide that we are only going to get involved in this, that we can control by oversteps. I think that was a thing that we decided five years ago. And, you know, nowadays if, you know, if I feed money to Bali, I'm going to be the for 30 and not another building.

Yeah.

You know, if we can't afford to pay the channel on the rally, we stop. He's spotting Everything down on there.

I don't, you know, okay, I don't want, you know, we, we can, you know, always people throwing money to do this, like with these, you know, these price. And we don't want it. We don't need it, you know, like nothing is going to change if you give me 100p now cash.

Because it's nothing car that I can't.

Nothing will things. And I know when you get the holiday life, you realize that there's not really anything with taste anymore. It's about more. Yes.

We're so chill. You want to take the K off, we take the K off.

And if you guys keep that, that's what will keep you connected. Because I feel that a lot of couples miss the mark on that and they're always chasing something bigger to be 10 years down the road to realize they're disconnected than what they were living at.

You were up. Well, that's exactly what I had in my first marriage. How was he? He ran a huge, huge fund. So very, very big person. And we had the massive, massive, massive house. We had the brothers, the drivers, the biz, the that I live in a house and a half the size now. I'm very happy. I use every room. It is my dream home. I could not be happier. I get hives and I see those giant mansions. I don't want it. I know what happens in them. The staff, you need the rooms that break down, the electricity, the bills to run the stress of it. Just so I can look good to my friends who are assholes anyway.

So listen, like what the point you two are making right now, like our listeners, I'm a pause. I want you to hear this. And it's almost impossible for most of you in the pursuit right now to actually grasp what they're saying. Because until you have the capacity to go do it, you're going to live in the delusion that that is going to create this freedom that they're talking about. So you have Sergio, who's competed at the highest level in soccer as an athlete. You have Caroline, who's produced and competed at the highest level in business. And I have a couple together coming to you, trying to speak truth into your fucking worlds of please pursue freedom. And freedom doesn't come if you're building everything and you lose the person that you're with. And this is.

You lose the person that you are.

Yeah, we had a. We had a massive house in Orange county and everything kept breaking down. Like, everything. Like, it was like a small hotel. And I looked at Garrett. And I was like, this house is not worth it. That's how we ended up in Miami. I was like, I don't care about the cars and the house and the. I'm like, this is. This is too overwhelming. Like, I'll burn it all. I don't care. I want to be connected with you. It's causing too much stress in our marriage. And so literally, like, I came to him one night and I was like, look, let it go. And we decided that gilded.

Gilded cages for people. I am the happiest. You know, it. I'm the happiest in this house. And instead, all I'm doing is buying apartments and renovating them and doing. Putting them on the market for Airbnb and things like that. I don't need a bigger house.

Why?

My kids are leaving. Like, it's fantastic. I could not ask for more. We don't need two cars. I mean, I do for my kids, but we have our own car. But, like, you know, I don't need another sports car. We go everywhere together.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's a. This reality is very difficult. We. We wouldn't have understood until we had it in. The same decision for us was like the. Just the weight and the pressure of the game of continually building. It's like there's still this drive to build.

By way. Let me put it this way. The bigger as. As we all know, when you get to a business only doing $10 million a year, whatever it is, plus, right, I got to £10 million a year. So whatever that's like, whatever that is.

And got it 14 million, something like that.

Anyway, so you're looking. You're looking around this. It's not going to make my life less stressful. It makes it a shit ton harder. It means I have more hr, more staff to hire, and then you can't get off. How am I going to get off? You have to ask people if I want to go on holiday. Marty, you're spending over a million dollars a month to keep it working. So you have to keep that business going. And, like, I'm like, what the fuck have I done to myself so that I can be on the front cover of a magazine? Like, I don't understand. That's why I started. I was all ego. And like, now I'm like, thank the.

Fuck you literally, tell me now. Go to the beach or go to whatever. I. I just literally, by the way.

I make just as much money by myself as I did with 86 people.

Isn't that crazy?

You know, net to Me and I don't have the headache. Yeah.

It's all ego.

It's all ego. When you understand that and what you're building, be very careful because that is a machine you won't be able to.

Get as soon as he's running. Then you cannot just control it and stop it.

Danielle. Danielle, last year got to that point with her hair brand.

Yeah.

Because he's done some really big stuff in the hair extension world or hairlines, hair products and her training academies. And she finally came to me. I think it was like September.

I just was like, I don't care. I'll let it all go. Like, I. I don't. I bought this freedom back. Like, it's. The money's not worth this. Having this. Yeah.

So they got rid of where. I think 400. 400 and like, 50 partners got rid of all of her executive teams and cut it down to her hairline and a couple.

It's far. Joe. It's hard because it feels like you're letting go of your identity, you know, but no, it's.

But then, you know, you get over it. It does you. But you trust me, when you get over, you get over. And I realized that, again, that was my perception of how people. You saw you. You know, obviously, I failed in their eyes or whatever. I didn't fail. Like, this is the best thing that fucking happened to you.

Yeah.

I would not go back. Do you know how many partners. People want to partner with me, want to invest in me? I will never look at a fund ever. No funds. I get approached by funds all the time. Like, keep the money. I would rather go very slowly. And I'm not interested in getting anything big. There's no, you know, I don't need the glam. I've done it. I've done it.

Yeah. You don't want to put yourself in that situation.

Are you to it?

So you don't want to put yourself back in that situation. Like, I did it.

Never. Yeah, never.

Never, never.

I'm 49 years old. I'm. You know, we have so much fun together.

The fun. I think what. You know what that really keys the excitement and the happiness of our life and how functionality. Like, you know, like, delegated, like ourselves.

In Airbnb, we got. Just got five. We bought five since November, and our first Airbnb went on the market and we did everything ourselves. We're in there and just reading all the comments of the people that are sitting. You know, we haven't had one. We couldn't even take a photograph of it yet because it'd never been empty. I'm learning so much.

Oh, funky.

Ever having such a giggle. And then it's, you know, everyone's going, oh, is it one? And I'm like, yeah, it was one. You know, And I'm like, but it might be a tower. And now in less than five months. Actually, it might. It really is. And by the wall, I'm saying, I don't know how it's happening, but I'm having so much fun doing it.

Yeah.

Not stressful. Answer to no one. Except a bite.

But isn't that crazy, though? Now that you have, like, this times freed up, then you have more opportunities that just kind of happen because you.

Can see that, yes, you two have become a shining light on this show. Like, we'd love, like, the points that we got. I told you, we get to the place, like, everybody has their angle and their message on the show that we uncover. And what you nailed, both of you nailed in the last, like 10 to 15 minutes, like, this was the crucial piece because we have so many high producing, stressed out couples, tens of thousands of them in our student base and couples all over the US And Europe that are pursuing and pushing trying to get to this place, but they've not gotten to the place yet. In their mind. The crazy part is they're never going to get to the place in the range. And you two are an example of this.

Such a person. You have a eureka moment. Like, shoes are closed. Okay. I do still buy, but I don't care about jewelry at all. Don't care about cars. I like, I love to buy property, but, you know, that's an asset.

I was talking to my friend yesterday. He was like, oh, we're doing our watches. And he has like over 60 watches. Like, tap the Rolex. He has been like, you know, it's even worth it. I'm like, you know, like, that's what you lose, you know, the full perception of everything. You know, like choice, the joy is so. But yeah, exactly. It happened.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, do your kids.

See that you're happier?

Yes.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Because I'm. I'm like, you know, and they come and they see it and, like, I don't have any. I don't have to be anywhere. Yeah.

You two have been amazing. We appreciate you dealing with the technology issues we had in the beginning. And I'm happy for you too.

You guys are very, like, real and genuine.

You've got a great rhythm. You both two together. And Sergio, you're holding Your own with this powerful woman, my man. You're doing. You're doing well. I'm happy for you, too. I know that you posed me as.

Yes.

Good. Just remember, you've got the new. New strategy in hand, which is now you're going to make your bedroom playbook. So we're just gonna. She's got the clothing playbook. You got your bedroom playbook.

Yeah.

Don't let the kids find those papers.

We'll have.

We'll have all of your social links here with the show for this week also. Where. Where Anywhere else besides social media right now to follow you to? Is there any direct places you'd like me to go?

YouTube.

Social media.

Social media. Caroline Stanbury. YouTube, obviously. Housewives and ladies of London are all on the Apple TV who are watch the shows and that's about it.

Yeah.

All right, well, you two have been amazing. We appreciate you being here. Thanks for tuning in from Dubai. And this brings us to the conclusion of another show. Want to wrap it up?

All right, you got this. All right, you guys, you know what to do. If you're listening to this podcast and you're relating to their stories, we just ask that you share it. We've been doing this podcast for about five years. We've brought some amazing couples on the show, and it's been really fun to see that all couples are kind of a shit show, but in a good way. So, you guys, thank you so much for being on the show today. Look forward to getting to know more of your story. And you guys were great. You're super genuine and very real. And we really didn't enjoyed our hour together. So you guys know what to do.

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