The Cost of NOT making it across the GAP | Date Your Wife | EP 127

Now it's recording.

How do you know?

Because it says it's recording. And my sunglasses are your sunglasses on the top of my hair. And my hair is looking crazy. We got a baby in the background. We got a baby here on the episode.

Did you get your haircut today?

I did. I got my haircut today.

Oh, it was long. It was luscious.

Lusciously long. So it was our 19th anniversary this week.

Yes, it was.

You've had a lot going on the last couple weeks.

Oh, I know.

And the thing that we have going on the most right now is one of our teenagers. I guess our only teenager right now.

I know. Or is that what our topic is?

No, our taco doesn't have our taco. Our topic. You can tell I'm hungry. I'm like, our taco.

We both want tacos.

I want a fucking taco. We got the baby here with us because we have no coverage.

No, you know what? We're going to Hawaii.

We said we had coverage, but we're.

Going to Hawaii this week for our anniversary trip. I feel like that's important to have an anniversary trip. And I gave. I have two nannies during the day, but I gave one of them a day off because she's going to be working, like, overtime this whole week. So I was like. When she worked over the weekend, so I was like, why don't you take Monday off? And then. And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna have to bring the baby to the podcast studio.

Should we hold the baby? Why don't you grab the baby and let's hold her? She's gonna smack counters or she's gonna yell at us.

She's fine. She's a. She's a good baby.

Yeah. She's gonna talk, so we should get her up here close on the microphone if we're gonna do this. Just give her. All right, so we're rolling here. The pockets of My wife's grabbing the baby. The thing I can tell you right now is that anniversary 19 for us is an incredible feat. It's an incredible feat. We're gonna. Is she ready for a bottle? All right. One of the example of 19 years of being married is the fact that we have pretty much done everything you could possibly imagine as a human being being married. Wrong. And we have also done a lot of things right. And amidst those 19 years, one of the coolest things we did that was right was the fact that we stayed married. Like, I, like, sometimes I sit and I actually think it's quite. I think it's quite miraculous we stayed married. Not because I don't love you, but I'm just like. It's kind of miraculous that we stayed married. Look at that. Look at that baby sitting on the show. God, that's cute. Look at that baby.

Not only did we stay married, but, like, I feel like we're, like, happily married. There was a lot of years where we were not happily married. And we were just. We were just kind of like partners and surviving.

Surviving partners.

Now I feel like we are thriving partners. Not just surviving partners, but thriving partners.

Look at this. You gotta. She's grabbing your hair. She's a. She's a hair grabber.

Right now she's at that stage where everything is Picks up in the mouth. I'm like, what did you just eat?

All of it. All of it.

I've done this four times and I'm still shocked. I'm like, oh, my God, our baby. What's going on around here? But is that how.

Is this how old Isla was when I accidentally let her while. I didn't accidentally. Stupid letter. Like, choke on a plastic.

I just. I don't want her to grab my glasses. I like this.

Okay, we're gonna put those over there. All right. So I just posted this. Listen, we. We. We're excited about life right now. 19 years being married. I got you an art piece that said, I choose you. You were less than impressed by this massive piece of art that was not cheap to have made for you, but I think it's because it was so early in the morning when we woke you up to look at it.

Yeah, no, I. I could tell you put a lot of thought into it. I. Yeah, I thought it was cool.

This is so funny watching this here. Do you want. Do you want me to hold the baby while you get yourself position.

I am positioned.

You're. You're like. You're like a woman trying to take her broth and, like. I don't know what you're doing. What are you doing right now? Just leave. Yeah, let me hold her. It seems like you're really struggling to get locked down over there. Come here, baby. I got no hair for her to pull. What's up, mama? Say hello. Say hi. You suck on a microphone.

Get out. Say. She's like, do I eat this?

No.

No.

All right. So last night. Last night.

No, I thought. I. I thought the. I could tell you put a lot of thought into it, and I was not expecting that, but I. It's funny. You gave me this massive piece of art that Was made with, like, old records. And I'm sure it took a lot of time and effort to put 200 hours. Yeah. And then it was funny because the night before, we went out for our anniversary, and anniversary shenanigans led to tequila and then me wanting to sleep off a little bit of a hangover. Hangover. So then my mom was in town, and she comes in, and she's like, I'm, like, dead asleep. It's like 8 in the morning. Like, I'm not, like, kind of asleep. Like, I'm, like, dead. Like, I didn't sleep great that night. And then finally, like, the wee hours of the morning, I finally, like, fell asleep, and my mom comes in. She goes, you need to wake up, because I'm leaving, and I want to see your face from Garrett's surprise. And I was like, oh, I knew.

This was a bad plan. I told her it was a bad plan.

So I'm like, okay. And I was like, okay. And then Garrett's, like, filming me coming down the stairs as if it's Christmas morning. And I'm like, God. He like, lately, your social media is like. Like, you're taking a shit, and I'm worried you're gonna, like, documented. So I'm like, I don't really want to be on social media right now. I'm kind of hungover. And I'm like, I don't. Like. I was like, oh, why are you. Why is the camera in my face right now? I just woke up. So it wasn't the reaction that you were expecting? Because I was like, those two variables. Yeah, but I thought it was. It was amazing. I thought there was. He did 19 dozen roses, which. That's a lot of roses. I've never seen that many roses in one little. The setup was cool. And then he did, like, pictures of our kids where, like, in our. Upstairs of our home, we have, like. Like, art spaces for each, like, pieces of art. And I have family photos there now because my kids are very. My kids are the best showcase of art. My kids are my art. So anyways, he got me pictures of all the kids blown up on canvases to put up stairs. You're making fun of me because I couldn't juggle her. And you're, like, trying to juggle.

I'm juggling her like a master.

But, yeah, it was cool. And I. I felt like. It's funny because I gave you jewelry, which I'm like, do you like jewelry? Because I'm like, did I just give you something that, like, I would want for me, and you gave me something that you wanted for you.

Of course. That's how it worked. I gave you something sentimental, and you gave me jewelry.

Yeah, I.

Which is less than sentimental. It's not less sentimental.

I put a lot of thought into that.

I know.

Like, go to three different stores and, like, figure out how it was. Like, the last one in the company, it was this David Irwin skull. Black diamonds with ruby eyeballs. And I saw it, like, a while ago, and I was like, ooh, that is what I'm gonna give Garrett for our anniversary. And I had to, like, hunt it down. So for me, like, the time and effort of, like, driving around hunting it down and finding it and then shipping it and all the stuff, I was like, all right.

It was good.

Yeah.

I mean, I appreciate that you made the effort for it.

Yeah.

Like, I love the ring. You gave it to me. Good timing. But I was, like, waiting on the picture. I was gonna give you the picture that night when we got back, but, like, one of our team members said, she'll probably be saucy in the tequila. She probably won't appreciate it. But we realized that saucy and tequila next day still didn't get us a result.

But, no, it's cool. And I'm excited, like, when we put it. If we found a spot to put it in her house. And it's really, really cool. I think I wasn't really expecting a lot out of this anniversary, because I knew we were going to Hawaii, and I was just kind of like, that's kind of like. That's kind of like our anniversary present to one another was just.

She loves to bounce. That bouncy toy she got is just, like, turned on the side.

I have baby gear, like, everywh. In, like, every nook and cranny of.

My house, but it's over the top. Okay, so let's come back to. Here's what I say we go the 19 lessons of being married for 19 years. We've got this little one right here just jumping. If you're watching the video on this. Hilarious.

You know, it's so funny. If we hadn't. If we hadn't figured out our life, we wouldn't have two more babies together.

Okay, so let's talk about that. The cost of not making it across the gap.

Yeah, I would have lost two little souls. Isn't that crazy? I don't think I would have had more kids, like, because I had my first two in my 20s, and then by the time I had my third one, I was 36 and then I was 38 with her. Was I 38? Yeah, I just barely turned 39. Yeah.

Cause you're 39 right now. So you.

Yes, I was 38 when I had her. And I don't think like if I would have, like if we would have got divorced and I would have dated somebody else, I don't think I'd have been like late 30s. It'd be like me being like trying to decide if I want to have kids with another man right now. I'd be like, no, thank you, I got two. So you know, do you think it.

Would have, if we had gotten divorced, you think it had dated like a 55 year old guy?

Hell no. I'm going for the 25 year olds.

No, that's who you'd smack with for a bit. But then who would you have settled down with? You know, settled down with some 26 year old.

I don't discriminate. Age is just a number. I don't discriminate. I would just go with, I would have fun for a while and then I would just find somebody that I connected with. I don't see, here's the thing is like I feel like because I'm a very successful woman, I would, yeah, I would just want to go with somebody who I connect with. What is going on in here?

She's like, she's so stoked.

You would for sure get together with like a 23 year old.

You'd be like, yep, I would not. That's my son's age. I'm not hooking up with a 23 year old. I just wouldn't do it.

That's what guys do though. Like guys in their like late 40s and 50s, like they end up marrying somebody who's like their daughter's age or their son's age.

What do you want to tell them?

Tell them now. See, she's camera now she's microphone shy. She's microphone shy.

Like now that you put me in front of the mic, I don't want to talk.

She's kind of in. She has this like this, this is her spurt. Like she has this like burst of right before she like conks out at like 6pm and she takes like a little cat nap and then she's like wired again. And then she goes to bed at 8:30. So this is the calm before the storm.

So I'll tell you this, what's crazy about having the kids now is like having a baby at 46. I mean, I've never had a Baby. But being a father at 46 versus a father at 23. I was not this relaxed with Parker, that's for damn sure.

Yeah, it's funny.

Go ahead.

I was gonna say it's so funny because my nannies will be like, I. They'll be like, well, she's doing this. So she's doing that, like, with the. Charlie, like, in her schedule. I'm like, yeah, that's. That's great. She eating, pooping, sleeping. That's great. They're like, you're the mama bear. Like, you need to. You need to decide the schedule. I'm like, nah, Charlie can decide the schedule. Whatever. She wants to sleep and poop. That's fine.

You know what they'll think about this way. How stressed out were we with the first kids?

You know, that's why I wonder if the firstborn is always the most little fucked up.

Because parents are idiots, right?

Like, I mean, you were the firstborn, and that might explain a lot.

Like, legit. Every standard was heavy on the.

I consider myself, like, the last. Like, even though I have a sister who's 10 years younger, like, I kind of felt like the baby of my family. And then she came as, like, an oops baby, but she was more like an only child. And I was like, the baby and my parents, legit. Just, like, I don't ever even remember being disciplined. Like, and I turned out okay.

Well, like, there's a relaxation factor for sure with Charlie. She's gonna get the benefit of, like, five kids. She'll be at the bottom of the spectrum, and it'll just be like, she's.

Gonna just come in and, like, roll out.

What do you wanna do? Whatever you wanna do. Good luck. See you later.

Charlie's going to be like, you guys didn't see me coming, but really, I'm going to take over this. Both of these empires. And it started with bouncing at a.

Podcast on a microphone.

A mama, mama, mama.

Say hi, guys. Hey. No, you don't want to do it. All right. Well, I would tell you, yeah, I.

Would say, like, being married 19 years and both of us, like, working and having five kids together, like, and the fact that we are actually, like, pretty connected right now, like, we're a unicorn couple.

Our daughter said something tonight. It was, like, a little interesting. I mean, she always says something since she. I'm super proud of her. She went back to public school, which is good. We threw it to the wolves, and she said, these aren't the wolves. I was in therapeutic boarding school for a year. These People are weak. Which I could understand. She was with some pretty savage 18 year olds all through school. But one thing was interesting. She said. And I said, you always make everyone come to our house. And I said, I don't make anybody come anywhere. I was like, you want them to hang out, you choose not to go over there, et cetera. But here was the point of all the conversation. We were going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, forth. Our daughter has an ultimate issue with the fact that it's not, it's not that we don't agree on the outcome, it's that she doesn't like the method for getting there. So for example, I say, hey, you can ride your E bike to go over to your friend's house. You got an E bike. I have a $5,000 e bike with the helmet with a lock. You know what, get on your E bike, it works. Ride to your friend's house. And instead she'll get upset, get angry because she doesn't like the method of riding her bike. And then she asked me, she asked me if she can Uber.

I feel like Bailey's biggest Uber.

Are you down with no?

I'm like, are you paying for.

That's what I said.

You're not.

Okay.

And then, and then the other problem I run into is I'm like, I don't feel safe with kids riding their E bikes at night. And she's like, well, I'm safe. I'm like, I don't care. I'm worried more about other people on the road. So I'm like, no, you can't do that. So then it like comes in the factor of like, when I've let her ride her E bike to some of her other friend's house, I'm like, you understand, like, you have to not leave when it's dark. Like, you have to be home before it's dark if you're going to ride your E bike. My biggest problem with Bailey right now though is it's hopefully becomes a strength for her later in life is she doesn't know the answer. No. And like, you give her a solution or you answer or you give her. And I always have to say, Bailey, did you not like my answer? Did you not like my response? I gave you. You asked me a question. I gave you an answer. You're asking me the question again. My answer will continue to stay the same. Does it just go in one ear and out the next? I'm like, whereas, like Ruby, our other kid, she's like, she'll ask why, like once. Well, why Mom? Well, because. Okay, well, like, she'll be like, there's.

Like a strength and a weakness. Wild. Because like l. The thing that drives you nuts about your kid is also at some level as an adult, you can think and go, you know, it's gonna pay off.

That might be successful.

It's gonna pay off a little bit, right? All of our kids have that. So Bailey, I keep just hoping we're gonna make it through. She's doing grid, but there's this. There's just piece of it where like I'm like, if I'm a kid and I get done with school, my dad has bought me an E bike. It's an elite E bike. I got a nice helmet. I got a bike. I got an American Express card. I want to go to my friend's house. It's 35, 40 minutes away. School is done. She is done with everything at 3:30. By the time 4:15 hit, she's at the house. But she would have to come back at 7:30 to be back by sunset. That's three hours hangout time. But instead there's just whine about it for three hours.

But here, because I won't go pick.

Her up at night.

And part of me is like, we, we do, we do cater to her a lot. Like, we do try to set conditions where she, you know, we take her places, we take her to a football game. We take. We try to set up situations. But then it's like the minute we're like, no, like, we're both. It's a Monday. We're tired. We're not going to go 20 minutes away to pick you up at your friend's house in San Clemente. It's a solid no. Like. And plus, like, you're not even getting. By the time you get dropped off, it's going to be like seven, so you're only going to have two hours there. So it's just. Yeah, it's. I'm just like, you know what? Maybe, maybe our other girls will seem like less hard and maybe she seems hard because she's our first teenager because you didn't get to raise Parker in that teenage the time. And it's so funny because Christy is. His mom would always say, like, oh my God, he's like the worst. You guys need to take him. And it's so funny because now my experience of Parker is I'm like, he's like the most chill human being ever. I can't even imagine him being a wild Teenager. So probably, yeah.

That was when he even came back in my life, though. I mean, like, his mother calls me when he's 16 and he's drunk in the emergency room, his pants off, alcohol poisoning. And she's like, I can't fucking.

I mean, I'd lose my shit.

I can't fucking do this anymore. You're taking him to come live with you. And that was our entry point. So, like, we never got to experience a psychotic son who was in summer school, dropped out of school all the time, got bad grades, constantly. Power hydro. What it was called power sliding into cars. Yeah. I don't know. Drifting in his vehicle, losing his car every other week because he's drifting, sleeping till 1 o', clock, 1:30 in the afternoon every day.

I remember he would act like his mom was like, exaggerating. He'd be like, oh. And I'm like, yeah, but you can't really exaggerate, like being in the hospital because you're.

Because you got alcohol.

Because you got alcohol poisoning. Like, you can't really exaggerate that. Like you're there, you know, Thing is.

Crazy, I was thinking about, though, because I was talking to a couple of guys about this. Like, their kids are very church kids, right? They're good kids in the sense that they don't drink, they don't party, they're not messing around sexually. They got Promise Keeper rings to stay virgins and forever. I had a Promise Keeper. And like, there's a downside and an upside to this, right? So the upside is you get these kids with structure. The downside is, is once you send them off in a life, like they've not experienced a lot of life and so they're going to be. There's going to be. There's a downside to it. We saw this happen for Mormon culture too. There's a downside of being bubbled up.

It depends on the kid. Because, like, I was. I was gonna say I was raised very Mormon and I didn't. It's so funny because, like, when I asked my mom now, she was like, oh, my God, you are the worst. I'm like, mom, like, I wasn't sleeping around. I wasn't. I didn't even party in high school. Like, I partied a little bit after high school, but I didn't drink. I literally, I didn't have sex in high school. Like, I felt like I didn't get the best grades, but I had a job consistently. Like, so when my mom's like, you're awful. I'm like, was I, like, I don't think I was an alt awful kid and I got married young and I don't feel, I think, because a lot of my. I think I experienced life with you. Right. So. And maybe that's why we.

You grew up with me.

Yeah. Like, I feel like in a way I'm your father. That's disgusting. Severely got turned off in this moment, but thank you.

Well, you were 18 when I met you.

Yeah, but isn't that wild?

Think about this.

Seven years older than me. And seven years when you're 18, might as well been like you were like 45.

Like, well, think about this. I met you at 18. You'd just come at, you'd just come out of high school. You'd moved down to Orange county or in Utah. Well, I was, I was 25 years old, seven years older than you. I had already been. I had already been on a. I'd already been to Boise State to play football for a year and a half. I had always dated a two year Mormon mission. I'd come back, got married, had a baby, got cancer.

I was like this crazy.

Recovered from cancer, had no degree in college at the time, no direction in my life. Ended up in my cousin's apartment in Orem, Utah. And there you are at the church conference looking at me as a high value asset at 25.

You know what I looked at you as? I was like, I was thinking like, oh, this guy. Because you're like, oh, I'm in my last year at byu. And I was like, this is my mail ticket. This guy's almost done with school. He seems pretty energetic, like, he's gonna make some money. Let's fucking do this. I was like, this guy's my meal ticket.

I had a degree being P.E. when you knew I was a P.E. teacher, what did you think about that? That was my degree.

You know what, though? Even when we were dating, you were like. I was like, so you're going to be a high school football teacher? And you were like, no, I'm going to go college level. Like, I'm going to be like my goal. Yeah. You're like, I'm going to go coach. I don't even know who what a team it was at the time.

But you were like, coach in Texas.

Yeah. You were like, I'm going to go in Texas and I'm going to go. Yeah. And you were like, I'm going all the way. And I believed you. I was like, okay. I was like, not only he's almost done with school, but it's not like he just wants to be a high school teacher. He's got vision, he's got goals, he's got, he's, he's got some energy. And I, I think that women find that attractive is when a guy like, thrives to be successful in whatever they, they do, whether it's like teaching or whatever it is. Like, it's sexy for a woman to have a guy that has like vision and direction and they aspire to be the best at whatever, whatever their craft is or whatever they do.

You know that if I had been a, if I had been a, a high level, I absolutely could have been with my motivation, inspiration, individual to reframe, deal with people, get people inspired to do things, plus my obsession with football.

You got, you got.

If I had been, if I'd been a coach, if I'd been a football coach, I would have been an obsessive coach. And coaching at the highest level, you're talking like you're basically gone from the family six, seven months out of the year. You're like, you're working all the damn time. And as a junior, like, to get brought up through the ranks, I would have play, I would have been head coach major division, Division 1 football for sure. But to get there would have been a massive sacrifice.

Do you know what my mom said to me? She was telling me, she was talking, she was telling me about this, like, I can't remember who it is, but it's a high profile person that lives in Utah. They're like one of like the top, like billionaire people in the United States. And, and her husband died and she took over the empire and restructured everything. And, and she, I guess she raised like five kids. And her big thing was like, her, the husband was like, never involved, like, ever. And the, and she would always tell her kids, like, raise your kids with the dad you, you wish you had, not the dad you have.

Oh, wow.

And, and I'm like, sad like, but, but back then, like, that was the, like, it was like the woman stayed home and ran the house and the guy. Like, it was not tolerated. But it was like, hey, if he's working his ass off, like, that's okay. That's accepted. That's how it is. You play your role. You play, you play your role, I play mine. And I. And my mom was saying it was a compliment. She, one of the things she said to me, she's like, that's what I've seen in you, Danielle, me is you follow. Fought so hard for that time that Family time, that connection with like. Because she's like, cuz Garrett can go out and work like, you know, 90 hours a week. And you, she's like, what I saw in you is you fought for that time. And I'm like, yeah. And I am like, I think I did because Garrett wanted connection. And I can't as a woman, I'm like, I can't give you connection. If I don't get time, I'm not going to punch in and punch out. Like, you want this deep, intimate connection that comes with time. Like, I'm not willing. Like, like we both had our own businesses, so I was kind of like, you can create space and prioritize. If you want the kind of relationship that you want, then you have to prioritize that. So I think I kind of like, I fought for that, but I also worked. And I think like, we're moving now, people. It's like it's, it's going away from so much of that. Like, hey, you need to accept that the man's just going to work a million hours a week and the woman has to because neither party is happy in that situation. Like, what used to work then? Like, I'm like, yeah, I saw a flaw in that system right out of the gate. And I was like, if I'm working and he's working, then we're both gonna co parent together.

I think we were just at a movie here. Fun nights. Got one. There was a movie preview for the movie called Woman King. Can't have a woman King.

It's kind of an oxymoron statement.

Woman King is the name of it.

Why can't you just call him a woman queen?

Exactly. That's why you gotta call it a woman king. So this kind of plays into the game though. There's a rising power in women, which I support and embrace. I have four daughters, plus I have an amazing wife and a lot of amazing women in my world. But.

But women don't need to be men. They need to be powerful, feminine women. Like, like, to me I was like, woman king. I was like, that's an oxymoron statement. Like, but I get it. Like, like, women, like, we can go to like, it was like literally these like, women, like marching through a field and like going to battle. And I gotta tell you, there's like, oftentimes with like my family and my team members and my company where I feel like I'm in the trenches and I'm running through and I'm to go sword, sword, swords blazing, like, like I get it. But also, like, there's so much beauty in the feminine role, and it is very strong. And I don't need to be a man to be strong. I need to be a strong woman. And so to me, I'm like, I get it. Like, there is a rise in power, but it's like, it's. It's misinterpreted a lot of times that in. In order for women to rise in power, that we need to be men. We do not. We do not need to be men. Look at this beautiful baby with her headset on.

She's doing her headset game. How much do you think this is impacting her? Look at this. Oh, getting ready for the podcast. What's up, baby girl? Yeah, I. So.

I don't know.

I support the game of women rising. At the same time, I want my women to like my women I love. I want my woman that I own. I want all my women's that I own.

Sometimes in our house with the nannies and the cleaners and everything, I'm like.

It'S too fucking much.

I'm running. It's like, yeah, it's a household. Like, I'm like. I literally. We joke around. We're like, oh, the White Castle. And I like, literally, I'm like, yeah, like, it's me and, like, 17 women, and I'm, like, corralling them together. I'm like, all right, we gotta drop off at this time.

No, it's good. You coordinate. You coordinate like a champion. I've realized real quickly, too, that I have to, like, interact with the ladies a little bit different because. Yeah, you do. I like to interact with the ladies like I do with the men.

You can't do that.

Well, that's what happens when you call yourself a woman king. You call yourself a woman king. I'm gonna throat punch you like a king. But the problem is that doesn't work out so well for the women because then. Then you always get. You always get to pull the woman card, though. You're tough. All of you were tough men until you get man punched.

No.

And you're like, oh, oh, I'm a woman. You can't do that.

You're like, well, don't act like a woman. Here's what I find is a superpower with women that maybe women do more so than men is like, we are not afraid to showcase our vulnerability. If I get up and speak and tears flow, I'm in the flow, and I find that very powerful. And I feel like if I'm In a room that actually, like, breaks people open and like, melts them, they're like, oh, my God. Like, it just seems like when you, when women, when you can tap into that vulnerable side. But I think that so many women are afraid. They gotta. They wanna wall up. They're like, no, I gotta wall up. I can't show this, this feminine side of me. I'm like, why? That's a power move. Like, you should be able to show that. Like, that literally, ladies, is our power move. You're like, you wanna. You want people to just melt and open up to you. Don't be scared to be vulnerable. Like, honestly. And I think that women naturally do that. But then why are we not trying to use our superpowers? Right?

Well, you and Elena Cardone, Grant's wife. And then Natalie Workman, Don Brandon, Dawson's wife. I don't know if she's going Dawson. It looks like she kept her same last name. But those, like, those. Those two women are powerful women who are big producers in their world too. You know, Natalie's like, running almost all operations for their business deals, all hiring and firing. She's 29. 29. He's like 52. Like, obvious second marriage on that one. But, like, you got these powerful women, but they all, they all are still very feminine. Talk about that.

But to me, comes across more authentic. When I. When I see a woman that's like, yeah. I'm like, is that really you? Maybe it is. But like, for me, I resignate more so with a woman who just stands in power for who she is. Like, it doesn't mean that you have to. I mean, I consider myself very alpha. Like, I have a strong personality, but, like, it's so funny. Even I used to. I used to take coaching from you. And you'd be like, you need to. Like, when I was talking to my teams, you're like, you need to slap that bitch. Like, I was like, babe, I'm. I hear you. And I can take like a grain of salt from that, but my version of slapping that bitch is not like, how. How you would slap of bitch. Like, that's not going to be effective.

Just so you know, there's been no bitches slapped and they're making the case.

But what I'm saying is, like, that's how he would word it. And I was like, I hear you. I'm going to take that with a grain of salt because how you're telling me to respond to her, she's going to close down because she's a woman. So I'm going to approach this a little bit different. And it's funny because it's like, I have all girls. I run an academy with like 95, with almost 500 women. It's like 98% women. And I have a salon with all women. Like, I know women. Like, you know men.

Yep.

And I feel like, again, I have to kind of be that. That strong feminine role, but I feel like I am very feminine. So I'm not gonna show up something that's not me. Because when I've tried in the past, when you're like, you should do it this way, and I would. And I was like, now I wanna fucking cry. I'm like, that wasn't effective. It doesn't feel like me. I feel like, kind of bad about myself. I feel like an asshole. It's. Nobody wins.

Women are a lot more aggressive than you make out. The DKW team is far more aggressive.

Than the Warren team. And I am not. I don't think I'm aggressive. I'm a very, like, I' Matter of fact, like, I can see things from like a. Like a pretty logical state. I'm very. But I approach things, like, I would say very neutral. I'm not like, I don't know you already.

You're really good at that. Why are you really good at that? The ability to say a little bit neutral.

When somebody presents me with a problem, I immediately. I naturally don't take sides. I naturally am like. Even like, when a student.

I would say, you take the opposite side a lot.

A lot of times I do. I'm like, okay, like, well, let's just play this out in the other situation. And I. I genuinely try to see it from both angles. And I'm like, even if you're the bad guy in the situation, I can see how this situation happened. Which helps me to better, like, coach people or talk to people. Because I come in with this, like, neutral playing field of like, ah. I can see where that happened. You can't see where that happened. But let me explain to you what I'm seeing.

So let me ask you a question. You. You. You've made some hard decisions recently.

Yeah.

Vet to lop off some heads. Yeah. You've had to let some people go, good people that needed to go.

I just recently let go of my lead train inside of my education program. And it was a hard choice, but ultimately, like, I 100% knew that it was the correct choice. I stand behind my decision and I. I always look at something, like, when I look at something, I'm like, what is the outcome that I want? And then when I find out what the outcome is that I want, I have to ask myself, what do I need to do? And sometimes we don't want to do the steps in between to get the outcome that we're looking for. And so that's always like, my. One of my superpowers is I'm like, okay, I want this whether it's in, like, business or relationship. And then I'm like, like, I gotta do the. But I. But I'm like, ah, but I want this outcome. Like, I can't just say I want this outcome. But then unwilling to do the dirty work in between, Like, I'm like, all right. And I know the outcome that I'm looking for is eventually going to propel me forward, whether it's in business or marriage or whatever it is. But there's this level of, like, where it's a little sticky for a minute.

So you taking that same principle, that was a. That was a key piece inside a relationship. Like, I have a couple of guys right now where the primary situation or obstacle going on right now in the relationship is the woman, the spouse is unwilling to do what you're talking about. Man, I had a hard time unwilling to submit to what is required to get to the promised land.

I think I had a hard time with it for a while.

You for sure did.

I mean, I think I got to this place where I'm like, I'm not winning with whatever it is. Whether it was like, I wanted more time and connection with you, but then I was closing you out. Like, I'm not winning by doing this. I'm not. Oh, I'll show him. He worked. He worked and traveled and did all this. Well, I'm gonna be all cold and standoffish when he comes back. I'll show him. You know, like, it was like, okay, like, I need to. I need to put forth some effort that I care. And in doing so, then it was like, you wanted to take. Put the effort back. And it's. Relationships are kind of this give and take where each individual kind of has to cross that line, in my experience. But it's hard when you feel like your needs aren't being met. It's. It is people. It's so funny because people think being a victim is the hard thing. Being the victim is the easy path because then you can take zero accountability. Right? So I think both of us were victims in our relationship where it was like, well, him, he's not doing this for me and this and this and that. Yeah, that's the easy role. So you have to ask yourself, okay, well, I'm. If I'm tired of this easy out of being the victim, how can I get the outcome that I'm looking for? And really, it's surrender. Like, it was like, I need to surrender. What is the bigger picture? I need to surrender. What is the bigger goal? And that principle has helped me so much in every relationship inside my life. I'm like, what am I looking to get out of this relationship? What am I looking to get out of the situation? And that's just kind of how I approach it.

That simple piece. Will you see if she's got a little chewy in there?

She does.

Oh, good. Grab that. Because she's chewing all over the cell phone, and it's been all over the place. Oh, look at what I got. Look at.

My God, she's tired.

Look at this. Oh, there's a. Oh, she's warm in here.

She's tired.

This podcast studio has no air conditioning unit. We're doing good. That we open up all the doors. We're sitting here just doing wet sweat. Oh, oh, Rachel, you want to hold this baby? Oh, Rachel wants to hold this baby. Rachel, baby holder. Oh, there.

She's a little sweaty. Yes.

Okay, so we're gonna keep going for, like, 10, 15 minutes. So take the show to. To a place where we've added some value. You. Which I believe we're knocking on the door. My hair is going a little. Hold on. Okay, so I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come back to this point, though, because this, like, this is a piece that, like, has been very difficult. I've had several guys recently in this situation, and they're like, coach, what do I do? She's not crossing the line. I said, well, we're gonna. We're gonna put into play Project Vacuum. And you might wonder, as you're listening, what is Project Vacuum? It's very simple. Here's Project Vacuum. Project Vacuum is a simple principle I came up with, guys. I can't speak about it from the female perspective, but I can't talk about from the male perspective where kings exist. Not woman kings. We'll talk about woman kings here in a minute. Men king. Here's a play. 1. You have to radically be responsible for where you currently are and the fact that your marriage is what it is because of you. It's your fault, nobody else's. And then a minute that we go there, your brain's gonna be like, oh, but this, this, this, and this. All those things are accurate. Your wife did up a bunch, too. Nobody gets the place they are because of one side. But the only way to be in power is for you to take responsibility. So that's stage one. Stage two, get very clear about where you are committed to going in your relationship with a woman, not your wife, because your current relationship with your wife, you're frustrated, it's broken. You need a divorce. You don't need to necessarily legally get divorced, but you got to divorce the current relationship, which is. You got to put it down. Too many patterns up. So there's this other place you got to get really clear of what is the thing I'm committed to going towards. Then the third stage. Invite your spouse into this new picture. You and I had a conversation about this in the kitchen, 2016. Do you remember this?

Were we in Via Corsica?

We were via Corsica in the kitchen. It's led to us going to Date with Destiny watching. I'm not your guru. And Tony Robbins changed our.

I don't remember this specific conversation other than I remember at that time, we were renting a home, and there was a period where we had lost everything and we couldn't buy a home and we had to rent, and we had gone to this place in both of our businesses where we were creating success. And I felt like the fact that we were still renting to me was like a slap in the face. I was like. I was like, I don't know. I feel like I'm showing up. I feel like we've. We're on the right track, and you can't commit, and you have this story that we can't buy a house. Like, we're not worthy to buy a house. And I'm like, is it because you are not committed to me? And I remember you were taught at the time you were talking about purchasing an Aventador.

Yeah.

And I just fucking lost that. I was like, you can live in your fucking Aventador. Good luck with that. That.

And I said, you can't live in it. It's too small. So, of course that's a ridiculous idea. I'm like, maybe a suv, maybe a Cadillac.

That's when I, like, lost my. I was like, let me get this straight. You're going to commit to a $500,000 car, and you were renting? Yeah.

Yeah. And you said, no. And so. No, no, no. So let's. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I like you. I like how you threw that in there. That Was later. Let's come down to the following conversation.

I remember.

Yeah, of course that's all you remember. Let's rewind the conversation and talk about the vascularity of my right bicep right now. There's a lot of veins popping out right there. Does that impress you? The veins make you, like, turn you on. You look at them and go, that guy's fucking jacked. Look at how vein he is. You're looking at your own hair in the camera. You don't even pay attention.

I was just ignoring that.

Okay, so we're sitting in the kitchen, and you bring up I'll be more intimate when. Which was the entire narrative for years. And this is when. Set me off like a motherfucker. I lost my.

I didn't say I'd be more intimate. It was something. I can't remember what I said, but.

I was like, I will blow you when you buy a house.

Something wasn't.

I will you real hard when you buy a house.

It was a long break.

A headboard when you buy a house.

No, but I was just kind of like, hey, you want more sex? Buy me a house. Like.

And I lost my.

But I said it, like, thinking like, okay, you. You want all these things. I'm like, but you can't even commit. Like, my. It came out. Really.

It didn't come out good.

But my theory was, like, you. You want me to be more intimate with you? Like, you can't even fucking commit. Like, we're out of the stage of where you can't buy me a house, and yet you keep feeding me lines how you can't buy me a house and how you want to buy an Aventador. You want more sex. You want more commit. Connection. Commit to me.

Everyone knows you get laid more when you have an Aventador.

Oh, my God, Garrett. Do you get laid more if you have vascular arms, too?

It appears it's true. I've been pretty vascular everywhere, if you know what I'm talking about.

No.

Vascular everywhere.

Nobody wants to hear that.

No, but you do. All right, so we're sitting there in the kitchen and why. And she says this. I lose my. And, like, that's it. Like, we blow up. We have our conversation. But I was prepared. I'd done the work prior to this collision. And she was right. I did need to buy a house. She was right. I did have a foot out the door. She's right. We both had a foot out the door. We were both not committed to each other for, like, up to that point. And that was the Crucible conversation.

You know what I think it was is we were both putting in the time to be like. Like, work our marriage out. But both of us were, like, still hesitant. We were. We were working on trust. Like, both of us were like, well, are you in? Well, are you in? So both of us were in this attempt to be more connected. Neither of us were committing, and we.

Were fucking meaning connected but not committed.

Right. That's good.

That was good. You should hop. Hop yourself. It's because my vascular veins over here inspiring greatness from your brain.

But I essentially think that that's what people are looking for in a relationship is a level of commitment.

Yes.

Like, truly, you're my person, whether thick or thin, whether we fight, like, we're gonna work it out. Like, we just are. And so when couples are having problems and the. And the husband's like, I need you to be on board, it's not a lack. It's. It's a series of patterns and behaviors that led to this untrusting space where both of them are just trying to rebuild trust in order to have better connection and communication.

Why? Why are you down on my story game? Keep going. You're smashing it.

I don't. I get camera shy. Like, why?

Are you kidding me? You get camera shy?

I do. I really do.

No, you don't. All right, so this piece, though, I told you. I told you a couple things. Pretty simple. I said, listen, I got four non negotiables. And you said, share them with me. Because you said, I want a house, and then I'll trust you.

Well, and I think you looked at it as like, oh, I'm just her. Like, I'm the sugar daddy.

I'm a ATM machine.

I'm her atm. Even though I was working and helping provide for the family. Yeah, but me saying I wanted these things, these tangible things, you looked at it as like, you're my atm. And then I looked at you when you would be like, well, I want sex. So I'm like, well, I'm just your stripper. Like, I'm just your prostitute. But the reality is I like being your stripper, and you like being my atm.

Exactly. So we finally fell into a lucrative contract of prostitution and ATM ing. It's like, this is. People are like, why do you guys have such a great sex life? I was like, have you seen our fucking house? Come on. I bought myself the highest level escort on the planet. Don't even have to fly to Vegas. So I said four things. Non negotiables. Which is what we do with our guys. I said, listen, project vacuum is there this own where you are. Get clear about where you want to go. Invite your wife into that place. So here's what the four. I had one, that my wife had a purpose beyond me and the children. That was one. And you were getting on that place in 2016, you were knocking on that door. You had a thing going on with hair, but you weren't really committed, Committed, committed. You were committed, but not committed, committed, committed. There was this thing that I wanted, which you were doing a good job on.

There's a difference between working and working with purpose. So there's women that have a job or they have a time filling something like. But there's like, doing something where it's like, you're doing it because you're passionate and you feel purpose doing it versus then you're just trying to fill time. And I believe a woman can. You can connect more with somebody who's. They're both working at that frequency. So if you're like a guy who. Who, like, loves what he does, and you feel like this is your purpose, and then you have a wife who just has. Again, like, she just. Maybe she has a job, but she doesn't love it or whatever. Maybe she doesn't work. Whatever it is. It's hard to have, like, conversations where you meet the same frequency.

Yeah, well, this is why, like, I don't. I tend to go to a lot of men's groups, Bible study groups, church groups, because a lot of guys go to these places to feel what I feel all day long. And what I do in business, right, which is connecting with other people, getting vulnerable, being connected, having crucial conversations. I do this all fucking day long, six days a week. So I was like, that's a point for another day. So. So the first point was then you had a purpose, which you did. And that's part of what makes our world work. You don't wake up every day and only think about the kids or only ask me what time I'm going to be home.

I have to interject here, because when I started doing hair, it was a job to me. It was a hobby, it was fun. It was a job. I had no passion behind it. I had no purpose in behind it. And when our relationship was going through turmoil and I needed to get excited about something, I got excited about life. And in doing so, I looked at the skills that I had in front of me, which was doing hair, and I turned those into a passion and into a purpose. So but you pushed me, like, you pushed me to become that person. You pushed me to become passionate about that. And in turn I pushed you to want more out of life. Right. So we continue to push one another. Like, so it's not, it's not a bad thing if you say for men. Like one of your non negotiables is your wife needs to have a purpose. Maybe the guy can help push her to find what skills she has and create a passion and a purpose. Because I feel like that's what you helped do with me. And I see you do it with so many people. Like, that's your unique skill and ability is you push people to take the skills they have and create a passion and a purpose with it.

And it worked. I mean, it worked. Your mom made a. Mom made a comment at our 19th anniversary, Big Art piece with you and me sitting, holding each other, each other. And it says, I choose you. And she looked at it and she, before she left and she said, and she started getting a little teary eyed and I said, thank you for making this amazing human to be my person. She said, thank you for taking such good care of her. And then she looked at the picture and she was getting a little teary eyed, some tears going down her cheeks. And she said, you know, neither one of you could be who you are without each other. I was like, I know. Clear, like I clear as day, would not have pushed the way I pushed without her. And she could not have become who she is without me pushing her. Her. So there's the number one purpose.

I believe that. Okay, sorry, not to interrupt, but you.

Need to stop apologizing. Just go.

I believe that every couple has that, the opportunity to do so. And that's what marriage is about. It's an ebb and flow. It's a push and give. It's a push and take. It's like, that's how a phenomenal relationship works, is somebody is not just hitting the gas and the other one is the anchor. You guys are both simultaneously pushing the gas together and pushing one another to create. To create massive stuff together. And like, so it's like, yeah, we, you could, you could do it. There's probably like multiple people we could have done it with, but we chose to do it together. And it's really what's like, that's why when I'm like, people are like, well, how do you find the right person? I'm like, you, you both have to be able to.

You become the right person.

Yeah. Like you be. You both become it Together. And I believe that, like, everybody thinks, like, well, I'm with the wrong person. Well, I gotta go find the right person that vibes with me and believes in my vision. But like, ultimately, like, you can become it together. And that's how I feel. But like, we are so strong together because of that, that kind of back and forth push here. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we've kind of acknowledged in our relationship, like, hey, like, I couldn't have been this person without you. And you're like, hey, I couldn't have been this person without you. And mix that with like the level of commitment and five kids later we're like, you're my person.

I had a comment from my stack this morning, a lesson here. It was. The answer is not always starting over with something new. Often the answer to your frustration is simply to look at what you have from a brand new view. That was fucking solid. Thanks, God. So that was my stack lesson today for my stack process. And I looked at what was happening for us at that time in 2016 was a major shift in frame and view. Number one thing was have a purpose beyond me and the kids. Number two thing was, by the way, we've got the windows all open here in the studio because it's hot as bulls and our babies are being watched by one of our amazing, talented team members with cool new MBR Wave hair. Hello. Hey. Wave hair. Anyways, second thing I said was we had to be able to authentically be all of ourselves. My wife had to be a bitch, which she is. And she had to be brilliant, which she is. My wife is both. She's a brilliant bitch. She's a bitch. Bitchy, brilliant, right back and forth like there was no, there was no escaping this. Like, Danielle's not perfect. No woman is. No man is. I'm an. I'm also aspirational. So Danielle's brilliant and she's a. I'm an. And I'm aspirational. Like you take, you put those two into place. Like, we had this. And I wanted a relationship where we could be all of ourselves, themselves, Stiletto to the forehead and everything. I needed Susan to have permission to be Susan. She wants to run around and be, you know, a stripper. For me, I'm all about that. I'm all about supporting that stripper life. And on the same token, she needs her own space and time. Last night she needed sleep. That's it. It was 9:15. I looked at her and I was like, there's a 10 hour sleep coming out of Us here. I know she needs a good sleep.

Wild weekend.

So I come and hold your hand. You push it away. You hold your hand and push it away. I'm just learning. I stay committed. 10, you reject. You can't reject my moves anymore. And then I'm like, I'm going to. I'm going to have hand sex with you right now. Which means I'm just going to lay my hand on top of her then. She always asked me a top position, which is kind of a. Truth be told, it's kind of a sexual thing too. Like she kind of wants the top position too.

I'm a small human.

Yeah, well, I don't like exactly. Big human on top of small human.

Claustrophobic.

Yeah. Yeah.

Your hands are even big. You're like bomb.

Yeah, hands are big. Everything's big. You know I'm talking about. All right, let's continue. Principle number three then.

Keep going, sir.

So stupid. All right, principle number three then. That I had non negotiable was is that my wife and I co create something together. Which means we have something like this podcast, we have a family, we have things that we're excited about together that we're not just planning on our own all the time. It's that we have something we do together. This has to be a co creative relationship. And then the final or the finale was ttf, which I didn't call TTF because you named it TTF later.

I didn't name it that.

Yes, you did. And you named it QQP and you named it P Triple P. I don't tell me. Touch me me. Quickie. Quickie. Porn star. Porn star. Porn star. Porn star. Your progression over the years has been incredible. So the third, fourth piece for us was, listen, sex is an issue. We're gonna have sex. The woman I'm relationship with is gonna want to me and she's gonna want to be with me. And this sexuality is not going to be a weird thing. And you made a comment, do you remember any of that? Is you said, well, what if I don't agree with number four? I said, well, then you left me with some options. One, cheat on you. Two, get a side girlfriend. Not going to do either of those two. Three, get a divorce. And this is when we seriously contemplated at that time like you dating other people, we considered like being done. We considered separating. We considered doing everything. We weren't open to be in an open relationship. We were just like, we, we're just gonna be done.

I think we had to like come to this Place where we were like, this is where we're at. And in order to get to where we want, like, what are our options? Like, we can't continue this, like, karmic loop of, like, oh, nothing's changing. Well, like, what do we want? And, like, let's entertain options. And we started entertaining options. I was like, that'll just lead to divorce, so we're gonna have to find a different path.

And that led us to Date with Destiny, with Tony Robbins, sleeping in two different single beds in a hotel in Florida, and an opportunity to create a new vision for our lives. And that was. That was the beginning of another chapter. That chapter. Fast forward to 2012 led to two children, two more kiddos, a house of five kids now in the house. Because really, Parker, Isla and Charlie all came into our world since that time. Parker wasn't really in our world at all. I can't believe I have three more kids. A total five children live in our home right now.

I can't believe it.

Five kids from 2020.

I'm 29. How do I have five kids?

You're hot.

I look like I'm 29.

You look so hot all the time. I just. I love everything about you. You are an amazing woman. And we have been through. Through hell.

I know that. That's the other thing that I tell people, too. I'm like, even when I don't like my husband, I'm like, you can't compete with the history. Like, I'm like, I could. I could marry somebody else.

I'm like, you can marry a dude with the 12 pack. There's a lot of hybrids.

Never like, the. Like. Because I got married when I was 20, and, like, what we. We did, we. We grew up together, we grew together, we grew apart. Like, I'm like, I couldn't repeat that history with somebody because of who I am now. You know what I mean? So it's just.

Just I couldn't do the same thing. And I. I think that's the final piece for. The message for today on the show is like, no matter who you are, no matter where you are in your relationship, here's the thing to know. You're going to have to start over one way or another. But you can either start over with a person you have no foundation with, or you can start over with the person you have foundation with. And my experience is, God will bless your life if you will start over with the foundation that you have currently. But. But here's a big fucking but. This doesn't happen in a Weekend. Like, the commitment level to make it across the bridge is massive. But when you get across the bridge, when you get to that ideal place, the marriage and the life that you created, you literally become a walking billboard for elite living. Because 99.9999% of people cannot do this too.

When you kind of get on the fast. The fast track, when you get on the same page, at least in my experience, I'm like, man, we, like, financially, spiritually, like, everything. We spent, like, so much time in this, like, karmic loop where we were just like, victims. We were both victims. And now that we're. Now that we're. We decided, like, hey, being a victim sucks, and let's take some accountability. Like, I feel like our life is on a fast track. Like, people watch us and they're like, even. Even what we're doing in business and in life, and they're like, whoa. And it's like, because we kind of came to this place of like, like, like, you're my person. Like, here's the outcome I want. And when you not only commit to that person, but you do the actions required, then life starts moving a hell of a lot faster. And sometimes I'm like, I. My face hurts, I need to slow down. But, like, I love it. You know what I mean?

It's like, I do.

Like, life in the fast lane is. Is fun. And when it slows down, I'm like. I get, like, almost like, panicky. I'm like, I'm not progressing. I'm not progressing. But that's why we take so many trips together, because we got a. To, like, breathe and unwind, you know?

I just had an idea that would be incredibly awesome. You ready for it? It is. Turn the. The, you know, where all the paint and the shingles and tile and all that. When we first moved into the house where your dad tried to create me a workbench, we turned that area into a badass podcast studio at the house.

It's like a dungeon.

Yeah, it'd be sick. They're so quiet, though, that steel, those big ass concrete walls.

We could.

We could turn that thing into a fucking podcast studio. And then guests could come to the house.

House in our. In our ride.

In our drive.

Creepy.

No, it wouldn't be creepy at all. We just redo it.

It would be closet under the garage, but it's giant. In, like, a cellar.

We're like, but it's giant. Do you want to come in the.

No. I was like, that sounds weird. Like, you want to come to our.

Next, we could turn it into a sex dungeon.

Like, what are the whites into?

Didn't Parker give you a sex dungeon show on Netflix to watch?

I don't know.

Parker said that. He said, hey, I talked to mom. She asked for a good Netflix show. I told her that there's one called Sex Room.

Yeah, he did. And I was like, that's weird that you just told me that, but let's hope.

And we are. Yeah.

I was like, I'm kind of interested.

I actually think him and his girlfriend watch it.

Yeah, I don't have time to watch TV. Every night at 9 o', clock, I'm.

Like, that's a lot. You do.

No, every night at 9 o' clock I go up to watch and I'm like, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna go start a series. And then with like 9 by 9:15, I'm like.

We went to bed at 9:30 last night.

You know, I went to bed too early because I can tell when I go to bed too early because I wake up at like 2 and I'm like, where are we going? Is the day starting? And then I'm like, Danielle, it's two o'clock in the morning. You can't get up. And then I like feel like I'm in this weird. Like my brain's on till like 5am and then like 6, 6am I finally get up.

I had a dream.

You had a dream?

Yeah. You woke up at 2 and then. So I woke up at 2.

Oh, yeah.

Then I had a dream from 2 o' clock until like 4:30 when I woke up.

You did?

Yeah. I never have dreams.

Oh, I dreamed kind of weird.

We were on a spaceship and the people got on, but some reason I didn't get on the spaceship. Spaceship blew up and everybody died, but not me because I wasn't on it. So there's a, there's a message in that for you.

All right.

I don't know what the it is, but we're done with this show. Hey, we got Warrior Con 4 coming up. If you are a man or a woman, that we do. These are separate events that we're running, but we have Virtual Warrior Con 4 happening October 26th to the 29th. You can get Warrior tickets to that or check out more about it by going to warriorconvention.com or warriorcon4.com. Super stoked to have it. All of our in person tickets are sold out. 10,000 a ticket. And then our two tickets available for $250 up to $500 online. If you'd like to participate with us and learn the art and science of the Warriors Way, you can learn more about it. There would love to have you. Men and women will be participating in separate experiences, but we'd love to have both of you. And Hollywood here's got a glass on. We're gonna go get the baby. We got other to do, you guys.

I didn't know this was such a long sales pitch.

So I was, oh, my God. We just did a free show for like an hour, and I talk about it for 20.

I was like. Like, that was like. I was like, not trying to be Hollywood.

I was getting ready to leave, and then we close.

And then I was like, well, now it just looks weird. I look like a. I look like.

Like a person. He's just like, well, now we both have your glasses on, and we're closing this show up. You guys are out. All right, have we have a great week. Thanks so much for being here on Date why podcast. We're out. And. Yeah, that's it. We're out. Ciao.