The Strength of Vulnerability | Date Your Wife | Ep 035
4 Sept 2018 · 28 min
Podcast episode (Date Your Wife, Ep.035) hosted by Garrett J. White with co-host Danielle White. The episode centers on communication and vulnerability in relationships, framed around a recent Wake Up Warrior for Women event where Garrett, his ex-wife Christy, their son Parker, Danielle, and Garrett’s mother participated in a highly emotional on-stage processing session. The hosts also announce Garrett’s book Be the Man (sales/reviews/audiobook timing), describe how vulnerability differs from mere emotion, recount family history and reconciliation dynamics, and close with advice to use date night for honest communication.
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Hello, my friends, your boy, Garrett J. White, the founder of wake up Warrior and your co host here in the date your wife podcast. If you hear a little. A little shenanigans in the background, that is because my wife is currently eating fritos on her way to a shot of tequila. And we are excited to be here with this show today. We have our topic. Our topic on the docket today is the topic of communication. The communication of sex.
No, the topic is communication and respect.
Respect. Full sex. Nope. All right. Not going there. All right. So anyways, we had an amazing event happen here this last week. Before we talk about, though, we want to also announce the amazing release that has occurred of be the man, the book in the public on Amazon right now. In the first six days, that book itself has gone to number one newest seller in the business category. It has number one newest seller.
You already have like, I swear, like 200 reviews, too.
Nope, we actually have over 400 reviews. 400 reviews on this book. We've actually had a couple thousand books go out. My publisher, next century Publishing, had to send more books to Amazon fulfillment.
Has everybody in your network read that book?
We've had over 10,000 of those books already, just to our student base. And then I actually launched the book at the ClickFunnels conference, Funnel Hacking Live 2018. And we gave away 3,000 of those books.
But I think that's why it's gonna blow up so quickly is because it's already been on your network and you have a huge network. So now it's actually out to the public, so people are like going crazy over it.
Yeah. We also have the audiobook coming available. Kindle version is available. The book is 1995, I believe, and the Kindle version is 9.95. The audiobook was already in approval status with Audible.
Yeah. Can I get it if I go to my little itunes ibook apps and.
You can get the Kindle version through Amazon? Kindle. You cannot get it. You cannot get the audio yet in two weeks, you'll be able to get the audio.
Okay, I'll hold it.
So two weeks, the audio will be there. You'll be able to download that at Audible. You'll be able to get it in Amazon, itunes, anywhere.
The Audible for women.
I mean, women could listen to this and get huge vibes.
I've never read it. You think I would. But it's titled be the man and I was like, I don't know.
I'm not a man. So I don't read it.
But now I Want to read it? Because I'm in the process of writing my own book. I. I didn't know how to.
What is the name of this book?
I was gonna name it Be the Woman, then I was gonna name it the Dumb Hairdresser. And then I. I don't know yet.
Well, here we have a book called Be the Woman that will be coming out. It'll be very similar to Be the Man.
Maybe I'll. We'll do the Be the Woman. But I still. I feel like this.
Like you feel this call to something else. Yeah.
So I'm gonna, like. I might do two books this year, but so far. So far, I've just started one that I don't know the title of yet.
All right, well, that's good. Okay, so we. That's the story with the book. If you have not gotten a copy of it, you can head to Amazon, search Be the man by Garrett J. White, and you'll find the book there. Also, on top of this, you're going to find all the reviews to let you know about the book. Literally over 400, I believe, at this point, reviews, and we've had just over 2,000 in the first five days.
I did listen to a little bit of the audio this show because I.
Have it on an internal podcast. It's only available podcast.
Apparently there was, like, a funny story about Sam.
Yeah, there is. You'll have to wait for the introduction of it. Are you going to eat Fritos on the show? Just going to crunch a few Fritos. Let them hear it. It's like a Fritos commercial. Okay, so we. We. We had an amazing week this week. We had Warrior. Wake Up Warrior for Women. Talk about this. Wake Up Warrior for women event. 300 women here.
Last week was our anniversary. We went to Cabo straight from that right into Warrior Women Salon. Life, mom life. Like, it was. I like. It's the end of the week, and I'm like, I just want to go to a movie and sit and do nothing. But it was an amazing week. It was like I lost my voice, and I feel like I'm in this weird time warp right now.
It's very intense, Very intense week. Very intense week.
It literally feels like six years went by in three days.
Six years went by in three days.
And don't you feel like we're kind of like, with what we're doing? I don't know what's going on, but sometimes I feel like we're in this time warp. It's like God came down and Is like, you guys need to. You guys need to figure out this shit that most people figure out in five years, in an hour and a half. And I'm like, okay, we'll do. Thank you so much. But I think it's because I genuinely feel like we're kind of called to serve. And so in that I just feel like we're kind of. We're on this, like, crazy momentum high right now, and it's really cool. And then even being in Warrior Women this week, I didn't know how it was gonna go. And I felt so much resistance for some reason, which every time I feel resistance, I'm like, oh, shit's gonna be good.
Meaning you feel resistance to doing something.
No. Yeah. Like. And even with Warrior Woman, I was like, I don't know. Should I be a part of it? Should I gnaw? Should I speak? Should I train? Should I not? I didn't know the outline.
But I.
Knew in my gut it was weird because I felt this resistance, but I also knew it was gonna be so powerful. And so I was like, I don't know, but it was amazing.
It was incredible. We're gonna actually talk about that. Part of our conversation today will be actually about when we're down there between my ex wife, Christy, the mother of my son Parker, myself, and her on stage with Danielle and my mother and Parker. And arguably one of the most two and a half hours of my entire life. And more crying and more snot and more intense processing happened with our coaches and trainers, with Coach Sam and Coach Kevin, with me and Christy on stage. And I've never seen. I know of no trainer in the world who would actually submit to what I submitted to on stage in front of my students.
That's what was so powerful in it. Like, I can't even describe to you how powerful that was that you were like. Literally, you were like, you guys, I'm gonna process myself. If you don't know what processing is, it's like, maybe you can explain it better. But Garrett literally was like, okay, you guys, I'm gonna process myself, and I'm gonna be. Basically get real vulnerable. I need you to be here with me real time. And never. You felt like a pin drop in the room. Like, everyone was like, shit. And it was like, you've never even gone that deep in Warrior, like, in the guy, stuff like that. I'm so glad we recorded it because, oh, my God, it was powerful.
So we're actually releasing that on Labor Day, which will come after this show is already released. To our student base inside of both BMs, big money stylist, as well as Warrior for women, and then also our warrior woman, as well as Wake Up, Warrior, the brotherhood. So Brotherhood, Sisterhood, and BMS Posse are all going to get access to. Excuse me. What we're going to share today, but our topic today is the idea of communication. This is our topic. Communication. Okay, So I just wanted to share.
About the event and life.
Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. But no, but that's the topic. The topic is communication, and we're gonna talk about communication through what happened on stage. So one of the key things that exists on stage, and we're gonna talk a bit about it, is vulnerability.
Right?
So speak about vulnerability. I mean, we saw all kinds of people on our team being vulnerable in ourselves.
Okay, So I own a salon. I'm a hairdresser, but I'm also a business owner, and we have a program called Big Money Stylist, or bms. I also have a podcast called Big Money Stylist, if you want to tune into that. And it's so crazy because business women have this sense of being a little bit masculine, I would say. And that's good. That's not, like, a weakness. It's definitely a strength. But it's so funny when you're in that space. And you know what? Even if you don't work, if you are a mom and you're managing the home, there's this masculine energy that you have to tap into in order to do it and do it well. And so it was interesting because just on the topic of communication and vulnerability, it's hard for women. We have always been taught and bred to be like, you're the top of the home. You need to hold strong. Your kids can't see you cry. Like, in business, you just fucking show up and you just delegate and da, da, da, da. And even though we're naturally very feminine and vulnerable and that we're just taught to be strong, which I believe that women are very, very strong. That's why we have the babies. And it's so funny because you get so hardcore into that role of, like, just power through. Just power through. Just power through. Just power through. And you forget the vulnerability side. And I honestly, in the last probably couple years, finally just started, like, sharing my story, and there was, like, such a sense of, like, freedom. And in. So I realized that there was so much power in vulnerability. And so.
So do you think in the past that, like, vulnerability was not, like, it was something you didn't think was powerful. And so you didn't share because you weren't a. You weren't a very vulnerable person.
I think there's a lot of.
I don't think your whole life growing.
I don't know. From my perspective, like, women are always like, we kind of have this guard up. Like, we're protecting ourselves, we're protecting our children, we're protecting the home front kind of sort of speak. And if you don't expose a little bit of that vulnerability, I don't think it's healthy either. I think that children need to see vulnerability, and it's interesting. Even at home. Like, with my children, when I show that vulnerability, I'm like, you guys, it's hard. I love you, but sometimes it's hard. I find, like, my oldest, like, steps up and is like. She all of a sudden becomes, like, more responsible, and she has this adult role, and she's like, mommy, it's okay. I love you. And I think it's important for children to even experience that at a young age. Like, oh, my God, it is hard to be a mom. And then it puts this kind of, like, okay, like this rise in them kind of thing.
So there is. There's this vulnerability thing is an actual strength. But many define vulnerability as a weakness. I defined it as a weakness for a long time. Most men define it as a weakness. I've come to find that most women, although they speak about vulnerability, they don't. They're not that. Yeah, talk about that, because I don't think most women pretend they're emotional, which they are. But they're not really vulnerable.
No, they're not vulnerable. And they're two different sides of the spectrum. And, like, emotional is just like, oh, I'm sad, and I'm gonna share that. I'm sad. Vulnerability is, like, really digging deep and exposing who you are.
Whoa, that's really. That's really good. Emotion is just, like, getting feelings out. Vulnerability is getting down to the truth.
Yes.
That's intense.
And very few people are at the place where they can share the truth. And then it's just scary. Fear of rejection, fear of everything. But in the end, fear and guilt and shame are really not serving us. And so when you look at it like that, and vulnerability becomes a strength, and you understand that, and you get that piece of the puzzle. You can share and be vulnerable, but then you can also step back and be powerful as well.
So there's this. I mean, you look at the situation that you and I were in as a couple, but we were the display of vulnerability that existed on the stage here this week during Warrior Week for women here at Dana Point, California at the Marriott was like a whole nother level. It was on new level for me. It was a new level for the whole audience. It was about two and a half hours where you have 300 individuals in the audience crying. We have weeping coming from the stage and we have the most intense pain and vulnerability being displayed. But this had to begin with a willingness to have a conversation. And the people involved in this game were me and my ex wife.
Give them like a quick backup story.
Okay. So we. If you're not sure about how this worked out. So I was, I was married at 22 to a woman by the name of Christy at the time, Christy Hauser, her name is now Christy Lindbergh. She'd been remarried twice and now been with her husband. She's with 14 years old. Lindholm. Excuse me? I said Lindbergh. That's actually people that like, you know, did flying airplanes. Yeah, Lindholm. So Christy and I had gotten married. We were very young. We were together for six weeks before we got engaged. And then we were married in three months. In the first 30 days we were married, we found out I had a tumor in my jaw. We were in college playing football and she got pregnant with my son Parker, who is now 19. So we went in and out of like chaos for 18 months. Being married, very, very difficult time. She was young, I was young. Like there was just, it was chaos. There was not a lot of money. I was focused on football. I was having surgeries. Like she was having a baby. Like there was just. It was very difficult. So after 18 months of being together, her and I got into a huge fight up in Canada at her parents home. And we were living in her folks basement and I had transferred up there to play football up in Canada. And she said in a fight with me, she said, I'm done and I can't do this anymore. Get out. And I ran. I was done. I rocked Parker that night. He was nine months old. And then I left the next morning and she was standing there and Parker was standing in the doorway leaning.
She was 19, right? Or 18?
I think she was 20. She was 20 at the time. But we had gotten together when she was 18 and then we got married when she was 19. And when we got older.
That can't line up. You only dated for six weeks?
Yeah. And Parker. By the time I left, Parker was nine months old. Let's see. Wait.
I Thought she was only 19.
She was, actually.
You met her when she was 18. You dated for six weeks, got married. I bet she was only 19.
Yeah, she was 19. All right, so she's very young. I mean, she's a baby. She's like the age of Parker right now. That's fucking crazy. So anyways, I gotta leave and we get divorced. And I didn't know how to be in his world or her world. Fast forward now all these years. By the time Parker was in, like six or seven, she got married to another guy right after we got divorced. And that guy raised my son until he was seven. Then they got divorced and she married another guy named Larry. And throughout that whole process, I just kept unplugging and unplugging. I didn't know how to be a father. I didn't know how to be involved in that relationship. There was too much pain. I didn't know how to do it. So I just ignored it. And Parker came back into my world. Back in. When he turned 16, I started being really more trying to be more involved than him. He was a total shit show. And his junior year in high school, so his mom was happening it and ready to get me involved. And between 16, 17, 18, and 19. And he now lives here in California, works for Waco Boyer. And he and I have an amazing relationship, but there was always something in the way. And me and Christy had never talked about what happened. We'd never once. I mean, I went 12 years and I never saw her in person, but.
I felt like during those 12 years, there was always conversations going on, and it was interesting from my perspective. I didn't know where my role was. You know what I mean? And in the beginning, to be honest with you, I met you at 18, and if you would have said, hey, I mean, I knew you had a kid, but if you would have been like, hey, I have a kid every other weekend and this and that. I don't know if I would have married you, honestly, Like, I met you at 18, I married you at 20. And I. I think I would have been like, no, not. I don't want to do that. And I even remember you when you told me you had a son, you're.
Like, but he live.
You said, but he lives in Canada. And I was like, whoo. And so throughout the whole experience, like, I didn't really know how to show up. And in the beginning, I would be like, reach out to your son. Reach out to your son. Because we went down to Canada and we saw him a Few times I'm like, oh, he's so cute, you know? And. And it was in that moment that I was like, if we needed to have him every other weekend, like, I'm cool with it. Because at that point I was like, I really love you and I want to get married and whatever.
But we went there on a few tests just before we got married to make sure, right?
Yeah. Because I'm like, I don't know, maybe this turns around. Like, I kind of thought you weren't seeing him that much because you were in the single life, you know what I mean? And I thought, okay, well, if I'm gonna marry you, this is probably something that we're gonna see him at least once a month, you know? And I was like, I gotta go meet him. Meet his ex wife and just see how this goes. And then I just felt like nothing would ever happen. And I just would say, hey, you need to call your son. And he's like, he's four. And I'm like, it doesn't matter. You need to call him. And I. The only impression that I got through the whole thing is I was just kept saying, like, hey. I was like, the voice in your ear. And then it's like, we had our kids and I was like, I'm tired of telling you to call your son. And there was so much resistance for him to come down here. And I just was like, you guys. I got to this place where I was like, you guys figure out your shit. Like, I'm not. He's not my kid, you know?
Well, you stepped out and you did everything you could. There was nothing you could do.
I just felt like. And even like you would tell me stories, and I was like. I even felt like I was like, oh, I don't know. Like, I kind of. I literally, like, stepped away. I was like, I know this is gonna circle back around. I'm not even. There's nothing I can say. I don't know her. There's nothing. And I even told her that when we hung out this week, and she was like, I'm so sorry. I'm sure you were. I'm like, to be honest with you, I never held a grudge or anything against you. I just always felt like I was on the sidelines. And whenever you guys chose to be in, I was like, let's do this.
Which makes you a powerful woman. And on that note, this is what happened. And Danielle's been waiting this whole time for some kind of communication to happen. Parker started coming in my world a lot More the last like two years and in an active way, but all living through the warriors way, communicating with the text every single day to be a core four. And the things that we've been doing over and over and over and over again with him. And he came back into my world, which required Christy to come back in my world. And Christy and I then saw each other for the first time when we were going on a recruiting trip for football a year and a half ago. And then I saw him at high school graduation when I was with Christy and her husband. But we never really talked about anything. So we literally never had any emotional closure to what happened with our divorce. There was never a sit down, there was no therapy, there was nothing. It was like, we're divorced, we're done. We were in two different countries and the legal process went through and the divorce was over and we both moved forward. She was immediately married and I dated for a few years and then Danielle and I met. So we get to this event, Worry week for women and she went through the pre training and huge kudos to my ex wife, to Christy, for having the courage to even come to the event. And there was a. On day two in the event, there was an opportunity that we both created her and I had talked about it beforehand. Hey, let's do this. It's time for us both to be free. She said, this warrior break process and the warrior's way is like breaking down my hard shell. And there's a lot of feelings I need to share with you one on one. Can we have some time this week? And I said, listen, why don't we just do it from stage in front of everybody? And she was like, are you serious? And I was like, yeah, why don't we just do it from stage in front of everybody? It'll be great for you, me, it'll be better for us. We'll help you. Literally, we'll be able to help millions of people with this because we'll record it. Whatever happens, people are gonna be able to get huge value from it. It'll help their marriages, help other people in divorce situations reconnect and deal with their kids, et cetera. And so we went and diving into this, I had no idea what was gonna happen. Like, no. No fucking idea what was gonna happen. I didn't know how it was gonna turn out. I didn't know how she. I didn't know how she was gonna respond. I didn't know what she was gonna say. I didn't know what I was gonna say. I didn't know what was going on. So we set up the situation, and I invite Kristi up to the stage and. And I have a chair for her. And as I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, you know what this voice means? Like, bring Parker up. So I have Parker come up, and this other voice says, bring Danielle up. So I bring Danielle up. And then another voice says. A voice says, again, now bring your mom up. And my mom was there, too. And my mom went through all that pain with the first marriage. Two of me in the divorce, and dealing with the cleanup of the pieces with me for six months after the divorce. So we're all up on the stage, and then I begin to have a conversation with Christy. So I'm gonna ask you from that point, like, what. What are you seeing? I mean, we've got 300 people in the audience. There are six cameras rolling, entire production crew. This thing is going really.
I don't remember what you said. Like, it was such an intense emotional state to be in that I literally don't remember. But I remember when Christy started sharing, I lost it, like, as a mom myself. And I like, even when I think about it right now, I'm like, oh, shit. Like, it was so intense. Like, she started, like, saying at a young age how she felt like she wasn't good enough for you. And, like, you just, like, walked out and you ran. And, like, she felt like she had to go in this protective mother mode. And, like, her son was, like, almost in a way, like, replacing you. Like, that was her foundation, you know what I mean? And it was like he was protecting her and she was protecting him. And I don't remember the exact words she said other than she just said, I felt like I wasn't good enough for you guys. And you just ran. And then she said, you know, and then he's 19, and all sudden he wants to go live with his dad. And again, that came up. Again she goes, and I'm what? I raised you. And now it's like a slap in the face. She said, like, I'm not good enough for you. And now you're going with your dad. You know what I mean? And it was just. I'm like, holy shit. And as a mom, I'm like, I mean, the whole audience, it's warrior for women. And it wasn't just, like, kind of tears. It was like full on sobbing in the audience with over 300 women there. And it was so intense. And everybody literally, like, from a woman's perspective, like, we were in her shoes. You know what I mean? We were in her shoes and we were just like, oh, my God. And we could feel the pain on both sides, but we weren't from my place. I didn't feel like I was judging either one of you. Because you shared your side of the story and she shared her side of the story. And it was just like. Feelings. Yeah, it was just feelings. And it was like, oh, my God. And it was like this outer body experience where you could literally see both perspectives of two people. And then, like, Parker came in and he started speaking and you could just see his rage and his frustration. And then it was. And at the end, his joy of being like, this is what I wanted. That's one thing I remember Parker saying as he's. Everybody's just in tears. And he said, this is always what I fucking wanted. And just like, it was so powerful, you know what I mean? And I just felt like after the whole thing, it was like the room felt lighter. The room physically felt like we were just like floating.
Like everybody released something.
Yeah, something. Everybody even, like, after, like, everyone just was like, coming out. Thank you so much. I'm like, I. I was just sitting on the sidelines, but it was just. It was incredible.
So there's a lot of women who couldn't have done that. And on both parties, I mean, Christy, for her courage to stand up there with me, but also a lot of women. This would have been a very difficult situation to sit in as. As me and my wife. We've been married for 15 years. Been together for 17 years. I know. I mean, we're talking two decades ago that this whole party began with Christy and I. I mean, we've seen her now this week, we've hung out a ton. But you hadn't seen her for, I mean, over a decade. Yeah, you were thinking of some of the fun you were having and I hadn't. I'd only seen her twice in the last, like, 10 to 12 years.
Right.
So. But like, from the. From the sideline, though, as a wife, as you're sitting watching this go down, there's gonna be a lot of women who are married to men with an ex wife and children and. Or they've become, you know, they're the ex wife in a situation and their husband's married to someone else. Like, how do I. How what were you. Like, what was going on for you being able to sit and just watch this? I mean, we were talking about gut wrenching pain from a marriage that happened long before you and I were ever together.
I just. I don't know, Like, I don't know that I. I always, like, when I see a situation where a couple doesn't work, I always know there's two sides to this story. And because I didn't know her that well, and I was never in communication with her, it was always you guys communicating about Parker. I didn't feel like I could judge her. I just. And actually, when I became a mom and I realized, like, because I have anxiety of my own kids, like, flying and doing stuff and like, let alone doing it alone, and for this, I remember when I had kids, I had so much empathy. And so even though I really wanted, like, to be in Parker's world, and I really wanted to, like, I was kind of like, I get it. I get it. And I knew that our time would come. And it's as silly as it sounds like, I'm like, I know our time will come. And I'm a very, like, visionary person. And I had expressed to Garrett, you know, I see sometimes I have dreams and things like that. And I said, I think it's going to circle back around. And I'm so happy to see that. I told Christy, we ended up hanging out. And I said, this is our next chapter. And Parker, you didn't lose Parker. You didn't lose Parker. This is just the next chapter where all of us get to be a part of his life. And we actually had a really cool. Like, I ended up going out with her and had way too much fun, but we really, like, expressed our feelings for one another. And I was like, we're good. Not that we weren't ever not good, but I just. Again, it was just. I felt like, all right, we got this. This is the next chapter.
We were all at dinner yesterday night with the whole family. My mom, me, Danielle, Christie, Parker, both girls, Ruby and Bailey. And it was interesting. For the very first time, it felt like there was just family. It did. It was just family. And, like, even Chrissy was, like, talking about trying to have their family vacation this fall, come down to Southern California and stay close by and hang out with our families together. And it was the thing that's interesting. If we go back on this, you realize that you were the catalyst this entire time with Parker.
What do you mean?
Well, there was a crucial moment when I was texting him every day with Core 4 and hitting as my partner or my posterity, text, sending him messages, communicating with him. I'm getting frustrated. He's getting frustrated. Two moments. One was he was having some challenges and he was supposed to come down for spring break, and I was gonna cancel the trip. And his mom's like, please do not. I know he's, like, in the chaos right now his junior year in high school, but you gotta invite him down. Let him in your world. So that was one piece, but there was another piece where I was trying to communicate with him and you in the middle, you know, late at night, we were laying and talking, expressing my frustration, and you said, stop pretending like he's your son and quit acting like you're his father. You're not. Like, right now, you guys are just trying to decide if you can be friends. This is a grown man. Like, he's older. You remember this? Remember me telling you this?
I don't, but we have lots of conversations, and obviously that resonated with you at that time.
Yeah. You had literally told me, stop trying to be his. Stop trying to be his dad. Like, you're coming on way too strong. You guys haven't spent years together, and all of a sudden you're trying to be his dad. I was like, you haven't earned that right yet. Just be his friend. So I changed the text from Love dad to the end Garrett, which is how I sign off on all my emails. And that started this whole chain reaction that led to all this vulnerability on stage. Now, for those who are part of our networks, you're going to get to watch that entire game and that entire training, and I promise you'd be worth it. Just be part of the game. If you're a man and you're wanting to move down that path, obviously be the man would be a good place to start. But if you want directly into our networks, you can do that by heading over to warriorbook.com and check it out. This is part of what happens inside of our internal networks where we take this conversation here at Date yout Wife and we just take it a lot further. And inside of the women's world, we now have the availability not just for hairstylists, but by going to wakeupwarriourwoman.com where you can learn more about the Warrior Week for Women events that are occurring coming up here this year. Next year, we'd love to have you part of that entire week.
Do we have some tickets left for the. We have a Warrior Women wealth.
Yeah, we do have some tickets left for that.
Oh, good. Because you know what? I actually am kind of excited for that one.
Yeah, it's business.
I mean, I love, like, personal development, but I, like, geek out on, like, sales and Persuasion and marketing.
Persuasion and advertising.
Yeah, you just, like, really geek out on that.
Well, it's gonna be a business one. And you're excited to be a trainer there.
Yeah.
So we're gonna wrap this show today with the following. Cause we got date night. We're gonna head to get some massages here in a minute. Vulnerability itself is the key to victory. And it's one thing to say it, it's another thing to do it and to live it. And I can promise you that there have been crucial moments inside of our marriage that if vulnerability did not exist, if we were not willing to be honest about our feelings and to go to real, raw truth with each other, there's no other way that we'd still be together. And one of the best places you can get to that vulnerable truth is on date night. Truly. On date night. Yeah, that's where you can get there. You have the space on date night to talk about and communicate away from kids, away from everybody else.
It's true. Getting on the date night, even if sometimes your date nights end up in a little bit of argument. There was. I mean, there's been so many times where we're, like, in a restaurant just kind of arguing, but working through our own shit. And, yeah, I think you just need that time away. And a lot of people will be like, I have a date night with 17 other friends.
And you're like, eh, good try. Not it, guys. We're at one end, girls at the other.
Now we're in a space. And I know we said this in some of our previous podcasts. Like, we are like, oh, our relationship's pretty solid, and we'll go out with friends more often. But we still, like, even, like tonight, I'm like, don't answer any texts. We're going out alone.
Absolutely.
Even his mom's in town. And I was like, your mom can't come tonight.
Just so you know, it's just you and me. You and me, babe. You and me. That brings a close to the show.
That was a good one.
Communication's over. Was a good one. All right, ladies, gentlemen, have a wonderful rest of your week. Again, be the man in the book. Available on Amazon. Men. Head over to warriorbook.com ladies.
Wakeupwayourwoman.com or you can go to dkwstyling.com no, listen. Just listen.
Do it.
DKW Styling. DKW. Danielle Carey White. It's my initials. I pretty much share a recap of everything I'm up to. And people will be like, hairstylists will be like, why are you sharing this? Why are you sharing this? Why are you sharing this? And I'm like, I'm. This is me. Like, DKW signing is like a recap of everything I'm doing, whether it's hair, whether it's date your wife, whether it's business, whether it's whatever. So if you like my vibe and you want to see everything, I'm up to DKWSigning.com and has a recap of everything.
There we go. Ladies, gentlemen, we are done this show for a conclusion. We'll be back next week for our favorite topic as we roll back to the top of the sequence and we talk about sex. Baby, we're done.


